MRW (my reaction when) you have such a cool mom!>>15152
That's not very Jedi Master of you anon.
Star Wars is the biggest garbage media ever. I have more respect for MCUdrones than I do for Star Wara fags
>>15164>Look mom<I’m being c-o-n-t-r-a-r-i-a-n
You go buddy
Show those normies!
Contrarian for not liking shit movie series not even its fans like beyond the memes?
Ok kid, sorry for making fun of your movies
Pop culture was doomed when the most popular sci-fi became soy wars and not Dune
Star Wars isn’t sci-fi you autistic faggot>>15169>Hating people for liking things
Star Wars at least the main films sucks shit and people only like it because of nostalgia, as a non-Star Wars fan being taken to the movies to see the latest Disney movie by my date was one of the cringiest fucking things I've ever experienced in my life
Why are you participating in a thread for movies you dislike
you utter fucking faggot?
Do you see me participating in your fucking degenerate anime threads?
I really think it's one of those things Americans love but everyone else not so much, just like bacon and nutella
This thread is a duplicate and most of the posts are just shitting on Star Wars anyway
I said sorry if repost!posadasPosadas
Star Wars was cool when I was young, but now it purely rides on its recognition value. The non-mainline stuff is cool though. Rebels was great.
It’s funny, Star Wars only got made due to the fact that Lucas couldn’t get the rights to Flash Gordon.
Oh how things would have been different in a socialist America.
Star Wars is better than Fag Gordo
Who the fuck even heard of whatever the fuck Gordon these days?
Some fuckin shite franchise where every villain is a white dude in yellow face?
Flash Gordon (Along with Dune) was Lucas’ primary inspiration behind Star Wars. He only made Star Wars because he couldn’t get the rights for Flash Gordon.
Yes but Lucas made something that was better than Gordon Langley anyway
Once again, is there anyone younger than 55 that’s even seen Space Man Jabberjock or whatever the fuck?
And the only thing Star Wars took from dUnE was muh d3sert planet
The reason I brought it up was that in a socialist America without the ridiculous copyright system that we have now, George Lucas would have been able to make his own Flash Gordon Movie as he originally intended.
And Just because something is old and most zoomers haven't heard of it because of their myopic view of history doesn't mean it still had a impact on the creation of Star Wars.
>vid related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx15aXjcDZg
May the 4th be with you, nerds.
for the celebration here is a star wars channel and podcast I generally like.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFHsiRE9aCg
bad batch not bad. think the girl clone is force sensitive.
I kind of love that as soon as the Republic becomes the Empire one of the first things it does is try to default on its contracts with Kamino
Also is it just me or does Omega look a little less like a Jango and a little more like a Sheev
Don't think she'll be a Palpaclone. The Empire would probably have kept a closer eye on her. Also the Kaminoans seemed less concerned about her disappearance than I would expect if they had lost their most important asset. My best guess is that she was their own experimental pet project, perhaps an attempt to clone a force sensitive. Don't really like to make speculation guesses, but the two which crossed my mind were Ventress and Sifo-Dyas.
At least one of the Kaminoans were helping the BB, I half-wonder if they are going to bring back the Clone Rebellion plotline from Legends.
Also I dunno if it literally is a Sheev clone lmao, that was more just my first impression from looking at her. The resemblance is fucking uncanny though you gotta admit.
Don't think a proper clone rebelion is possible. It seems that in current cannon the chip not only makes you 100% loyal to execute certain commands, but also seems to make clones specifically loyal to the Empire, or at least Palpatine in general. So unless the Kaminoans specifically tamper with one of the newer batches and take away the chip, I don't think they really could ressist the Empire.
Fordo was p based, he does actually have a minor cameo in current canon>>15475
Well we've also seen from the first episode that you can intensify (and thus presumably turn off or reduce) the power of the chip, so its possible that Kamino ends up turning off all the chips locally if things go south with negotiations with the Empire (and seeing how they genocided Geonosis, its 100% going to go south).
also another point of the episode was that the Empire was going to introduce conscription, so they could send in the conscripts to fight the clones as well. It also might be where the sniper of the team loses his conditioning and defects from the Empire back to them
and they have to leave their home and all of their clone brothers as their home gets torched by the empire
plus don't lie - a clone vs stormtrooper fight would get millions of views lmao
I just miss the EU, I know it's consumerist to feel emotion for a fictional ip but growing up with all the books and video games makes it hard. There will never be another Thrawn campaign that has impact on the universe or battle of Muunilinst. I just want der maus to give legends a little life support beyond SWTOR so that there could be new content. The whole it would confuse people argument just proves that mutts can't distinguish between something that does or doesn't have a huge LEGENDS sticker on the top. I know I shouldn't care that much but it just kinda sucks.
I imagine we'll probably get more Legends stuff after the commercial viability of current canon dies down. Mind for the longest while there was a pretty direct course of how Legends was going post-Thrawn campaign all the way up until the Memezong Dong where everything was allowed to diversify off into their own little realm, the same will probably be true of current canon.
That besides all the new thrawn books were written basically disregarding the whole canon switch happened lmao. Like you can 100% insert most of the old canon fluff of Thrawn into the new books and it doesn't only work but it also fits perfectly.
I keep hearing the new Zahn books are good so I'll check em out. It'd be interesting to see legends stuff come back.
I can also recommend the Alphabet Squadron books if you like the idea of the old X-wing books as far as character development goes but with a bit of extra edge
Is there any books like the Traviss Republic Commando books or medstar?
nothing quite like that yet, though I imagine post Bad Batch (and thus post-Clone Wars tv show) we're going to see a lot of content around that era start to get published as a follow-up
The red kaminoan was the one overseeing Crosshair’s chip “enhancing” and also let Omega escape if I recall correctly. Maybe she has a plan for the Bad Batch too?
new episode was neat
nice seeing Cut again, shame they missed Rex just by a day. Echo probably hadn't seen him for a long while, though it's basically confirmed that they will run into Rex later now.
Don't know how intentional it was, but I liked the little social commentary with Chain Codes. I mean, nowadays literally every functional country, fascist or otherwise, has an ID database of some sort. When you really consider it, yea, it is kind of spooky violation of privacy, although pretty much mandatory for a functional modern world. I am kind of surprised though that the Republic didn't have a Chain Code already. Also to be perfectly honest the Empire is kind of in the right on these administrative issues, SW universe is basically ancapistan in many regards, which really needs some sort of strong galactic governance.
Well the Republic definitely had some kind of ID system because that was what they used to track down young force sensitive babies for the jedi kidnapping corps to snatch
The Empire has made that identity, though, more centralized by consolidating things like money, mobility, ect. into the one chip to make it a lot more impactful as to what they can do with it. They also forced everyone to transfer their savings from republic to imperial currency which probably fucked people over in the conversion rates and made a lot of people poor on purpose, because part of the imperial strategy is using mass poverty as a way to heavily expand the base of people that they can recruit from for the imperial military to replace the clone troopers.
Why don't they simply make more clone troopers?
Because Tarkin is a penny pincher.
A few reasons
On top of Order 66, all of the Clones have other orders including Orders 2, 3, 65, ect which cover removing the sitting Chancellor and his cabinet from office at the approval of certain governmental bodies, as well as a number of other orders which could have forced the Clones into compliance with different wings of the military, possibly against the Empire in the event of a military coup. On top of that, the Clone Troopers need to be housed, fed, and trained until adulthood, which granted is only around 12 years because of their accelerated aging but its still a lot of money. Conscripts are nice because their parents pay the brunt of the cost for raising them, the military just needs to give them like 4 months of basic and that's way cheaper than raising a clone army. In addition, these clones all will retire from service eventually, and finding something to do with them would not exactly be easy seeing as they age so quickly that they wouldn't be a strong store of institutional knowledge like regular veterans and they never had a taste of civilian life so integrating them with the population would be hard.
Also the types of enemies the Empire was going to fight wasn't going to be the endless waves of droids or the few disciplined organic seperatist forces like the Deathwatch, it was going to be ragtag teams of guerilla fighters in the Rebellion. Clones would just be hilarious and expensive overkill for an Empire already blowing its budget on endless amounts of expensively big overkill, corners had to be cut somewhere (TIEs, ground troopers, ect).
>>15563>still a lot of money
And where did that money come the first time around? Are you saying the empire state, when it centralized power and control from the republican state, actually became poorer? They could build a death star or two but not fund more clones?
>>15565>And where did that money come the first time around
The Banking Clan via the Sith, and continued funding was secured by the nationalization of the banks midway through the war. By the wars end, the Republics debt was 15 times that of its GDP.
The Republic military was basically all quality, even the worse ships like the Torrent fighter was made out of quality parts and just suffered from bad design. The Empire though would have to cut back and focus on expanding the military industrial complex for money and funding, and that came in the form if expensive star destroyers and other kinds of massive money sinks, as most all other industry was destroyed by the Clone Wars and galactic unemployment was massive. Thus, much of the Empire's economy hinged around an ever expanding military to promote an illusion of growth while the actual underlying industries and productive forces were pretty much crippled and didn't recover by the time the Empire ended. Clones by their nature were small and elite units which didn't expend a lot of their equipment because of their obsessive maintenance and rigid training, so they weren't a good fit for what the Empires economic plan was either.
Also don't forget Tarkin was the main military strategist for the Empire and he wanted his own doctrine implemented, the usage of Star Destroyers and Death Stars as instruments of fear, and the universality of Stormtroopers in and out of uniform as a show of the integration of the civilian and military into one. The clones can't exist as civilians like stormtroopers can, they fail that angle.
Also a lot of the Death Star was built pre-empire as well, and with slave labor too. There was a lot of unethical cost cutting besides the Clones.
star wars is for faggots
Then why don’t you like it?
Which non-canon retcon does this come from? And what about the 2nd death star?
pretty fun, any other stuff like this?
for the 1st Death Star in Legends this was the place where it was constructedhttps://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Despayre
in canon the 1st Death Star was constructed over Geonosis with a mix of Geonosian and Wookie slave laborhttps://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/DS-1_Death_Star_Mobile_Battle_Station#Continued_construction
Death Star 2 was quite literally built in the exact same place as the first one in Legends, in Canon its never elaborated on where the Death Star is built before getting to Endor.
Watched the third episode of BB. They aren't playing around aren't they? Really didn't expect that they would actually ever dare to show a deathsquad executing civilians, especially not when lead by the anti-hero who is basically confirmed for a redemption arc. Anyway, I like how the current cannon is not pulling away from the fact that the Republic was dogshit, as we see from the stormtrooper dialogue.
yeah the Bad Batch is going darker than I first imagined, I was kinda worried it would be a lighthearted kids show a la rebels, but the mass-execution of civilians kinda made that impossible lmao. along with that I kinda don't think that Crosshair will be able to effectively be "redeemed" because this is only the start of his actions, there are going to be more atrocities to come and he can't really make up for them.
I do also like the narrative focus on how quickly the Empire is just taking over the Republic, Palpetine had long seeded the traits of the Empire into the Republic so the transition is nearly seamless, with only small elements like Onderon or the Bad Batch slipping out of the Empire.
I just look up Star Wars capitalism and interesting blog posts come up. Here’s one on princess Leia https://mobunited.wordpress.com/2016/12/28/leia-organa-a-critical-obituary/
so wait… the Empire forcing everyone to trade in their republic credits and use chain-codes… this is literally fucking imperial bitcoin
Chain-codes seen like just a fancy name to describe a civilian registry. Meanwhile the credits are still material items, which is kinda dumb tbh, Empire had the perfect chance to create a digital currency.
there is also barely clothed sith leia for all your incredibly incestuous darth luke needs
Clone troopers are high cost maintenance and deployment. Conscripts are low cost and can be trained locally unless they are aiming for Navy. But the most important thing is that conscripts are cheaper in peace time than clones, as they said it in the episodes.
Plus let’s not forget all the slavery on backwater planets or planets that resisted conquering and then were conquered. Despite the Empire centralizing a lot of shit they opened up slavery and when there was wages they were pittance. In one of the recent Amidala books these miners working on the moon of Naboo are working way long hours with almost no safety equipment.
So does anyone here play FFG star wars rpg?eurekaEureka
I noticed this too which was great. And I’m sure the visor would be larger if it was worn, it looks like the perspective is large if you put a camera inside the helmet inside of a head inside the helmet looking out.
One thing I don’t like is how every bounty hunter in Star Wars is somehow the best bounty hunter. Every new character they add is like this super special character with awesome abilities, which kind of makes the universe smaller and makes what are supposed to be characters who are above the norm to seemingly not as good as we thought them to be. Also the Fennec Shand thing is weird because she’s much younger and less experienced and it would’ve been nice to see her struggle more against a more renowned bounty hunter like Bane and that she built up her reputation over the years. It’s kind of inconsistent.
to be fair Cad Bane does have a giant cybernetic skullplate on the left side of his head, implying Boba Fett already domed him in the duel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLwTkhVQj-g
) and Cad Bane is probably on the decline as "the best". Fennec at this point is also at least somewhat notable (Hunter recognizes her when he first sees her) so she isn't green by any measure. I kinda imagine that this show is going to be where Cad Bane ends up dying.
I hope we don't see the first batch of storm troopers until season 2 or maybe as late as season 3. And they should be emphasized as the first regimen of company of stormtrooper conscripts instead just a sudden deployment and replacement of all clones.
the current state of the lore is that basically all of the clones almost uniformly disappear by a year after the clone wars, which is almost too convenient for just "phasing them out". I almost expect the continued use of the inhibitor chip kills most of the clone army, by some kind of brain hemorage or something.
Omega has the kid "can we go to mcdonalds" mentality except for every warzone in the galaxy
Clone rebellion + Planet insurrection let’s gooo
It’s a kids show, what can you do? The excuse is that she’s “special” but everyone in Star Wars is “special”.
kinda a shame that Hauzer just gave himself up like that, I kinda thought he would work from behind the scenes and sew dissent and give aid to Ryloth from behind the shadows, or at least go off with Rex for (unspecified rebellion adventures). Instead he just convinced himself and like 20 others to basically consciously object and get arrested by the rest of the clones. now he'll probably get executed or worse, get a crosshair treatment.>>17979
Oh I didn't mean it as a bad thing, I just find it funny that an elite special forces unit is getting dragged into every battle in the galaxy by their adoptive clone sister.
they really channeling that slave hunter energy for the Empire
I like that we’re seeing a transition not only in armor but I’m the training of stormtroopers. I also like the reasoning: they are cheaper easier to train and there’s a lot more of them.
anyone see the star wars visions trailer?https://fxtwitter.com/RottenTomatoes/status/1427626652545077248
some of it isn't really my style but others look pretty neat.
yeah, the phasing out of clone troopers was honestly hitting on some nostalgic sadness, like an era really coming to an end. with the end of the two-part finale especially, it feels like the entire era of the clone wars has definitely ended.
Crosshair still a fash
Crosshair literally doing Coca-Cola moments because Empire makes him feel valid. Truly the modern day burger liberal fash.
that he is basically a grillpilled operator is funny
"look guys I just wanna keep doing warcrimes, whats the difference between droids and squishies really?"
its literally just the NPC argument lmao
yeah aftermath wasn't too bad as its own series, i think most people just dislike it as a replacement for the old EU's imperial collapse where there was rampant warlordism for years. between that and Alphabet Squadron the sequel era has a good deal of surprisingly good literature surrounding it, considering the fairly middling response to the trilogy itself.
*to help based Palpatine
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