I've been thinking of buying stocks, futures, and maybe even gold with the few laborbux that I can spare. I want to build up some kind kind of wealth that I can fall back on if I'm ever unemployed for some time or if I have an emergency. Is it immoral by leftist standards to invest in the stock market or is it okay?
>>1177>immorallmao
if youre petit bourgeois just own it
Yes. All bourgeois degeneracies are bad. Investing, profiteering, prostitution, hoarding, idleness, theoretical hesitation and psychological weakness, artistic decadence and individualism, foreign dependency, imperialist thinking, usage or possession of capitalist intoxicants, lending, speculating, any hesitation in revolutionary violence, urban parasitism, any hesitation in the cessation of bourgeois degeneracies, or any participation of any degree of capitalism, etc.—whether by word, deed, or thought—are bad.
>>1186>Well issue is that leftists have a completely different relation to morality as a conceptWrong. Only Marxists-Leninist grasp morality. You are amoral bourgeois moral relativist dog. Lumpen deviants, trotskyite wreckers, unsound petty-bourgeois anarchists can neither be called leftist nor grasp morality.
>thus more varying moralsWrong. There is no morality but the one true, absolute, scientific morality of Marxism-Leninism. There is no variation. Proletarian vanguard formulate ONE CORRECT LINE. It is right to serve proletarians and wrong to betray them.
>some–such as the egoists–that reject morality as a concept in favor of other frameworks.THERE IS NO FRAMEWORK OUTSIDE OF THE OBJECTIVE MATERIAL LAWS OF HISTORY. MORALITY IS NOT SUBJECT TO THE WILL OF MAN. MORALITY IS NOT OF DEBATE. MORALITY CANNOT BE REJECTED. TO EVEN SUGGEST THAT "MORALITY CAN BE REJECTED" IS TO PROMOTE THE MOST VILE FORM OF BOURGEOIS DEGENERACY
>>1182I mean, it can still help though. giving money to a communist party means: better propaganda, better outreach, ability to participate in elections without breaking the bank, paid positions within the party for full time work, and generally better organisation - and in the future, potentially the ability to buy weapons
The bolsheviks needed money too, thats why they robbed banks
>>1182>Leftists have different moral standards than right wingersgood thing im a communist
>some–such as the egoists–that reject morality as a conceptah yes only stirner larpers reject moralism. rejecting moralism doesnt mean rejecting morals as a whole, it means not pretending morals are objective or that theyre any useful to scientific analysis
>in favor of other frameworkslol
>>1190Communism isn’t exactly the power it once was, “propaganda” and participating in democratic process is just a tool to spread class consciousness, and having paid positions in the party means that people can dedicate their full time to party work - these are all things that western parties do anyway (which IS better than doing nothing), and adequate funding would only help
Unless you have any better ideas?
>>1192>party party party partyhow about going to where the proletarian association is already happening instead of larping and demanding to get paid for it you dumbass parasite
>“propaganda” and participating in democratic process is just a tool to spread class consciousnessmoronic libtard who thinks communism is about winning in the marketplace of ideas and goes to play in fields dominated by the petit bourgeois lol
>>1193Oh my bad, you’re right, spreading class consciousness is NOT something communists should
How do you suggest we organise a revolution then, you absolute retard
>>1177To some extent it's life or death. It's for paying for care in your golden years, or when the strike fund isn't enough. You're exploiting, but it seems no one's given another option.
Think what's meant by the opposition to morality here is quite different from the opposition to moral feelings. Or else it's a coping mechanism for all to intense moral feelings.
>>1177>moralityLOL'ED
Theres a general for this, go make some fat gain$ on China stocks my uygha
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2290804.html >>1200Either morality is a spook or you're an objectivist. You're fence sitting.
There are frameworks of ethics to be made with dialectical materialist analysis, but once that becomes vibes-based and religious enough to be moral then it becomes reactionary as all morality inherently is.
>>1177No just stupid
>Imma turn 100 dollars into 10 grand>20 years from now when i could be dead >basically playing the equivalent of raid shadow legends with my money and there's somehow even more bots >also also all the gatekeeping. Jews telling me what time of the day i can spend my money, how much liquidity i must have in reserve to buy or sell this particular stock, but this totally isn't conspiracy and market manipulation because uhhhhh because some Jews said it isn't>I'm so smart for doing this btw like, you're just a dumb uyghur who spends his money on malt liquor. I'm investing!!! Just play the fucking lottery. You look like less of a jackass
>>1177>Is it immoral by leftist standardswhat are "leftist standards"
if youre a consequential then that means 'its okay when we do it'
you could also short
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