Hay una psyop masiva para generar odio contra argentina y justificar una posible intervención o lento takeover del país y sus recursos.
Por medio del mundial estan pintando al pais como una potencia sionista corrupta y despreciable. Estan habiendo demasiadas decisiones y doble vara arbitral que es dificil que sean todas coincidencia. Hay alguien interesado en generar toda esta dinamica, quiza para devolverle un favor a alguien y de paso indirectamente arrastrar polemica pero mejor no digo más. Despues del partido contra Egipto cualquier tipo de simpatia entre el pueblo que pudiera tener argentina en medio oriente y muchas partes del mundo directamente se evaporó.
Y por otro lado, llevan años queriendo pintar al pais como un pais racista, colonialista y hasta settler-imperialista por no tener negros en su seleccion o por sesgos historicos terribles que los anglosajones liberales y progres se tragan como bobos. Para muchos en su imaginario ya argenitina no es menos que el manifest destiny americano y por supuesto un estado ilegitimo.
Algo estan cocinando. Guarden post
Todos esses problemas desparece quando voce para de dar atenção ao estrangeiros. São todos pau de bostas.
Tenho fadiga do mundo não latino-americano.
>>19020>>19021I'm not an expert, but hasn't the rest of Latin America always hated Argentina? I don't think before the internet people outside of Latin America were even aware of Argentina. I always heard Argentinian hate from other Latin Americans.
https://www.nytimes.com/1998/05/24/weekinreview/the-world-formerly-arrogant-utterly-argentine.htmlThe World; Formerly Arrogant, Utterly Argentine1998
>AT the Summit of the Americas in Santiago, Chile, last month, several foreign ministers from Latin American countries derided President Carlos Saul Menem of Argentina after he arrived late for the official photo session, making 33 other heads of state, including President Clinton, wait.
>Mr. Menem joked that his driver became lost and that he, the President of Argentina, had to walk. The incident was reason enough for the ministers to engage in a favorite Latin pastime – Argentine bashing.
>Argentines are Italians who speak Spanish who think they are British, one minister said.
>What is ego? another asked. Ego is the little Argentine inside each of us.
>Whatever the reason, Argentines are without a doubt the most disdained group in Latin America. (Mr. Menem also raised eyebrows when he decamped early to visit flooded areas of his country.)
>Argentines have long taken pride in their arrogance, perhaps as a way of covering over their own insecurities about their real identity. They flaunt their European ancestry and culture to their Latin American peers, who have mixed or indigenous blood. Now recent social and economic reforms suggest that the Argentine reputation for haughtiness may no longer be deserved. The view was perhaps rooted in a misunderstanding of a people who have historically vacillated between grand sophistication and banality. >JUSTIFICAR UNA INTERVENCION
Perdon por las mayusculas pero mi estimado, todos los gobiernos del cono sur estan siendo tomados por ultraderechistas, eres el primero del club pero no el ultimo y Fifantino esta esperando que Mezzionista le sobe la pelada en la noche. No te hagas.
Una cosa no quita la otra.
>>19022Yh, especially among Brazilians. There’s the stereotype among Brazilians that Argentine people are racist, and it didn’t help matters that there was a high-profile case of an Argentine female tourist being arrested in Brazil for racism after being racist to an Afro-Brazilian.
But I digress as a common trope in Latino banter is arguing over which type of Latinos are the whitest. And no, I’m not even kidding, in fact having indigenous looks is looked down upon among Latinos to the point that “mejorar la raza” and “secar lo indios” are common mainstays of LatAm culture.
>>19048Where do you people get the confidence to yap about things you know nothing about?
>>19048This is more like XIX century small land owning farmer mentality or early to mid XX century first time schooled propagandized mestizo boys mentality, rather than any actual thing. It hasn't been like that for a long time, my man, LATAM is not a parallel dimensions that progressive ideas about racial identity can never reach…
>>19049I should ask that question to you since it’s clear you’re a NEET:
https://xcancel.com/Iberianamerica/status/2070952806492835973Don’t pretend that the average Latino isn’t some reactionary mutted-up ape.
>>19052Nah, it’s still prevalent. Just look at all the X’itter and Tik Tok Argentine football fans calling Mexicans and Brazilians monkeys and pretending that every Argentine is some Aryan ubermensch from Agartha who are LatAm’s only “white ethnostate” because they raped and murdered all of their uyghurs to extinction, unlike Brazil.
Si hay un psy-op anti-argentina pero ustedes ya están intervenidos por yankis y sionistas. creo que es más bien otro intento yanki de intentar equiparar su estado particularmente segregacionista con otros proyectos nacionales para no parecer "tan malos" en una coyuntura particularmente sensible al conflicto palestino que trae tundidos a los asquerosos gringos en la esfera política y necesitan cualquier cosa que los rescate del creciente desprecio global
>>19053Los hinchas de todos los países son gente repulsiva y es necesario meterlos a todos en campos de re-educación
>>19054 (me)
Probablemente también ese psyop es una extensión del proyecto nacional Mileista, literalmente re-escribir la historia para que parezca que argentina siempre ha sido un proyecto segregacionista y se vale de insoportables gringoides wokescolds para cementar una historia completamente espuria.
>>19057You post an image of a naturalized american pig, one of the closest trump viziers, yielding his support to a project to ramsack argentina and condemn argentinians to crushing poverty and then conclude that america has nothing to do with anything. why are burgers so fucking retarded, just haplessly stupid beings.
>>19060> Existe uma Frase que é bem verdadeira, nem sempre um argentino más sempre um argentino, e eles falam que não são preconceituosos < Na Argentina, a maioria tem preconceito, no Paraná vi isso sim uma Argentina falando que somos bichos nojentos > @Carameldog962 falou a que habita num país quebrado, até mais que o Brasil (tô falando dela, antes que vc se confunda) > @Carameldog962 No reciban más turistas Argentinos y listo . Sin son mala gente para que los reciben 😮😮😮 < E ainda tem uns bestas que diz brasileiros que veste a camisa da Argentina, que como o Adriano disse, em 78 e 86, não ganharam roubaram > pode ser que uma maioria nao seja, mas o numero de casos la é muito elevado, é muitooo maior que em SC ( que ali é a argentina do brasil ) mas nem sempre é toda a população, mas que os casos sao muitos mais recorrentes sao, e eles ensinam isso pros filhos!! < 🎉 @JinShiro-q2l7f Obviamente é a grande maioria, você pode calcular isso observando os números de habitantes em cada país (ARG vs BR)… E não venha me dizer que os casos no Brasil são "diluídos" e por isso não perceptível, é sabido que a própria seleção Argentina, ou melhor alguns jogadores lá estavam metidos em polêmicas racis nesses últimos anos. ¡Malditos sean estos gringos y su campaña de operaciones psicológicas!
>>19059they're hyper sensitive while also being huge egomaniacs.
They're going to be even more obnoxious as their country continues to go to shit.
>>19064I thought you were talking about Argentines lmao. Holy projection. Look at the OP and this whole thread lmao. Zero self-awareness.
Minha opinião é que os argentinos tratam o racismo de forma muito complacente, como se isso fizesse parte da cultura deles, ou que reclamar disso é frescura. Veja que Messi nunca fez uma fala sequer condenando o racismo da torcida (não que devemos esperar muita coisa de uns multimilionários que só sabem chutar uma bola).
Pode não ser um grande exemplo mas vejam esse post no fio deles
>>16403, o imbecil faz uma fala racista e ninguém o criticou e pelo visto nem mesmo reportaram.
Talvez em algumas décadas eles deixem de achar que isso é algo "woke", assim como a homofobia aqui foi deixando de ser normalizada, sei lá.
>>19020Una intervención de parte de quién bro y por que motivo?
>>19027>>19028>>19065No soy argentino, simplemente digo lo obvio. De hecho detesto al cheto argentino, es la basura mas anglófila que hay aunque performen lo contrario. Pero el pueblo argentino es de los mas revolucionarios de Latam.
Hay intereses mayores que desconocemos alrededor de Argentina creo que la gente no lo dimensiona lo suficiente. El mundo no se mueve por vibes o que país es mejor o peor sino por acceso a los recursos y materias que sostienen la sociedad y cuyo control permiten a la burguesia permanecerse en el poder. La Patagonia es clave en el futuro, inmenso potencial en energia eolica y renovables, reservas de agua dulce, recursos mineros y nucleares, incluso con el cambio climatico se hará muy habitable por no hablar de ser la puerta a la Antártida cuando se abra la veda tras terminar el tratado antartico. Y lo mejor de todo es una tierra virgen gobernada por dos paises semi-bananeros
Simplemente estan construyendo pretexto o tanteando el terreno de la opinion publica ya desde ahora. La desunidad de la izquierda respecto a esto es muy preocupante honestamente
>>19054>>19056Tambien es verdad esto no deja de ser parte del circo politico interno usiano cualquier distraccion es buena, y sobre Milei tengo opiniones encontradas pero en general es un títere. Pero aun estando argentina ya intervenida hasta el culo obvio la forma es muy distinta, estamos hablando de cuestionar la existencia de un pais o de sembrar odio hacia el algo que sostengo es en parte manufacturado. También el experimento de Milei es bastante particular, es tan extractivismo clásico como es reventar el marco legal de un pais, cosa que es bastante extraña salvo en situaciones de conflicto. Podrían conseguir el mismo resultado con un par de favores como hacen en el resto del tercer mundo pero estos estan planeando a largo plazo
>>19067Esto es cierto y parte de la cultura argentina que detesto pero no veo como es relevante
>>19071If I speak I'm in big trouble
>>19072Este es el problema en lugar de mostrar solidaridad ya tienes la asociacion en tu cabeza hecha que te impide ver lo que en realidad esta pasando
>>19075>>19073não há conspiração pra roubarem suas terras porque vocês já tão dando de graça, caralho. pra que invadir a argentina se o governo atual obedece todas ordens de tel aviv e washington???
See
>>18683 for more info
>>19084>>19081Odio esta mierda en la que ellos LARP como le Aryans, cuando el ArgenSSimian promedio es básicamente un mestizo o un castizo, y la mierda con su proyecto de "blanqueamiento" (un proyecto de corta duración para arrancar) ha significado que la mayoría de sus inmigrantes ni siquiera eran germánicos reales (porque la mayoría de ellos fueron a los EE. UU.), sino italianos e ibéricos (es decir, los Europoids tienen más probabilidades de parecer mestizos). Argentina es tan poco blanca que un mutuo puertorriqueño mío que es tan moreno como Evo Morales logró mezclarse en Buenos Aires con facilidad.
Honestamente, es una puta broma cómo tenemos que entretener los delirios de Argentina sobre la pureza europea. Realmente espero que España gane la Copa del Mundo, los LARPers patagónicos no se lo merecen después de su comportamiento de mierda, superando incluso a los Limeys y estos últimos son conocidos por estar entre el peor tipo de turistas de la historia.
Alguien debería hacerles ruidos de mono en un estéreo para divertirse, o lanzarles bombas apestosas para darles un regalo inolvidable de inauguración de la casa.
Felicidades a la madre patria y a Armesilla si lurkea el tablón
No deja de ser ridículo cómo buscan cada acrobacia mental, cada maroma argumental para desviar la responsabilidad sobre una realidad patente, y dicho sea de paso, para convertirse en víctimas.
>no entendés, no somos racistas, es una agenda trasnacional que se está instalando para antigonizarnos negro forro de mierda
>>19150argentina es obviamente racista, pero de eso a decir que argentina es históricamente una colonia de settlers blancos que cometieron genocidio contra negros nativos es una verdadera estupidez, y un verdadero despropósito si el tema es "anti-colonizar" o lo que sea. le terminan dando la razón a los argentinos blancos racistas y mileistas que ven al proyecto de la argentina blanca como aspiracional
>>19152>pero de eso a decir que argentina es históricamente una colonia de settlers blancos que cometieron genocidio contra negros nativos es una verdadera estupidezEstoy de acuerdo, pero nadie lo está enunciando más allá de señalar el racismo como continuidad histórica de la Conquista del Desierto y el proyecto civilizatorio argentino. Proyecto, que por cierto no es exclusivo del territorio argentino; casi todas las incipientes naciones independientes de América Latina experimentaron el fomento eugenésico y la eliminación como expresión del blanqueamiento. En el Cono Sur hubo mayor éxito y, por supuesto, se traduce en términos demográficos hasta la actualidad.
No es casualidad que entonces estas razones produzcan una sociedad profundamente aspiracional (como bien señalas) y racista, sucede lo mismo en Chile y en el sur del Brasil. El asunto aquí es la responsabilidad al respecto de una discriminación deliberadamente oculta y excusada en "joda", en tradición deportiva, en la cultura popular y no como parte de un problema estructural. Uno que no corresponde con ideas de aniquilación y control que son torpemente instrumentalizadas, nuevamente, para tomar defensa y no hacerse cargo.
>>19154> Estoy de acuerdo, pero nadie lo está enunciando más allá de señalar el racismo como continuidad histórica de la Conquista del DesiertoEsto es falso, hay gente que sale en medios gringos entreteniendo que Argentina es una especie de proxy de Israel en la copa del mundo. Milei se ha convertido en un representante de la postura popular Argentina, y del estado Argentino mismo, a pesar de que Milei está confrontado con amplios sectores populares dentro de Argentina, e inclusive en ocasiones con la misma selección argentina en el tema de las malvinas. Los "sectores progresistas" gringos han transformado a Argentina en una especie de pilar de la ocupación ilegal en Palestina. No tiene sentido como se está hablando de Argentina desde EEUU.
Una intervención de quién? De China (ojalá)? Porque EEUU no tiene ninguna razón para dar un golpe de estado en Argentina, si la justificación para un golpe de estado es que es sionista y racista nose quien va a dar el golpe de estado…
You can oppose both the president and Messi without going into psychosis and pretending they’re somehow more complicit in the genocide than the EU and US, which is just absurd on it’s face
Can we all agree that the Falklands is just a distraction used by the government to distract the people from more pertinent issues, much like how Trump talks about Greenland and Iran to dupe Americans from focusing over their own crisis?
Like, just let it got. It’s not like owning the Falklands will solve Argentina’s inflation crisis. Also, let’s be honest here: The whole dispute is just a chauvinistic pissing contest between the British and the Argentines, and you’re dumb for taking a side. It’s like pretending that Essequibo issue is somehow relevant to anti-imperialism, when it’s just Venezuelan imperialism over Guyana for oil because, let’s be honest here, Venezuela wouldn’t even demand more than 60% of Guyanese territory if it wasn’t for its oil.
Inb4 “muh indigenous”:
- Most Guyanese are the descendants of Indian and African slaves and indentured servants, hardly a bourgeois class
- The Venezuelans population are as much of a transplant as the average Guyanese
Same can be said wrt Argentines and Falklands settlers who have inhabited the islands for generations and have voted in a referendum to not be under Argentine rule.
Also, I’m sick and tired of Argentines playing the victim over FIFA 26 as if they are some little saints, when much of the ill will was gained by their nasty football fans, ranging from making monkey chants and making racist remarks against their to African and black players both IRL and on X’itter, to violently assaulting other fans (or in the Argentine’s case, in the pitch. Have you seen how they behaved after the Spanish victory?!). Not going to hold as their inherent trait as most football fans are assholes (English and Latino ones come to mind), but pretending it’s some CIA psyop (when Argentina is being promoted by the USA) is just pure idpol brainrot.
Maybe that’s why some leftists oppose nationalism altogether. It’s just pure cancer honestly.
>>19186Milei protested and was visibly upset when the argentinian football team brought up the malvines, retard. He doesn't want to signal anything but slavish devotion to the imperial core. Shut the fuck up holy shit.
I didnt even read the rest of your retarded post, like the first sentence was wrong, what compels you to write an entire post about shit you have literally no idea about, can you even pretend to hide your contempt for latinamericans when posting on the latinamerican board, is this a tall ask for the imbecilic americans
>>19190As if Milei doesn’t let his true feelings be known:
https://www.politico.eu/article/javier-milei-says-argentina-is-getting-closer-to-reclaiming-falklands-after-world-cup-row/>>19192>like the first sentence was wrongMore copium from a country with an inferiority complex:
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/milei-turns-to-falklands-as-argentinas-troubles-mount/Bro, just let it go. This is as ridiculous as the pissing match between Japanese and the South Koreans pissing at each other over the Liancourt Rocks. Like I said, owning the Falklands and genocide its inhabitants won’t fix Argentina’s myriad of issues. Chillax dude.
>shit you have literally no idea aboutI do know more than you, considering how you’re playing the victim here
>can you even pretend to hide your contempt for latinamericans when posting on the latinamerican boardLOL says the side that doesn’t even consider itself to be Latino:
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZN8JyVWgv/https://vm.tiktok.com/ZN8JypL9Y/https://vm.tiktok.com/ZN8JynRE2/Like, your self-victimisation still won’t make the world unsee the skeletons in your Argentine closet. Time to make peace with that history instead of pretending even the Mexicans you refer to as “monos” are out to get you.
Like, the entire basis of Argentine exceptionalism rests on the notion that they’re an European countries, hence the saying “Brazilians come from the jungles, but Argentines come from the boats” in reference to European immigration, further reinforced by article 25 of the Constitution of Argentina which has survived every amendment.
In 1996, during a diplomatic trip, when asked if there were black people in Argentina, President Carlos Menem remarked that "no, this is a problem Brazil has".
>is this a tall ask for the imbecilic americansWhining won’t do you any good. Don’t like the heat? Then don’t start a fight. FAFO ArgenSSimian
Look, I won’t say Argentina is special in this regard, but everyone has seen how nasty Argentina’s fans can be and how thuggish the team was after Spain’s victory, so there’s no point in pretending Argentina is innocent and dindu nuffinz o algo.
But yh, moralising over which team to support is retarded as at the end of the day all celebrities are shallow petit bourgeois who will always support what’s popular in their country.
I will say this tho: It’s funny how Diego Maradona admitted that his “hand of God” move was a foul under normal circumstances after the match, but that he didn’t care because he saw it as revenge over the Falklands, and no one rescinded his goal afterward. Gotta respect his guts.
>>19193i just want you to know i didnt read any of your stupid wall of shit, nor will i ever.
>>19210Ofc you can’t, since you’re an illiterate argenSSimian anyway. Let go of the Falklands bro, it’s not like you’ll reach Agartha by annexing it.
>>19215What else to expect from a both xenophobic and racist poster that trivializes a case of colonialism with his shallow, youtube video-esque knowledge.
You already generalized an entire country, God forbid posters like him
>>19210 break your cognitive dissonance with their individuality. Claiming how this poster doesn't consider itself latino when at no point did he ever imply that.
Using cherry-picked examples while calling the poster "illiterate argenSSimian" is rich coming from a firstie-saviour complex lecturing retard
Please hide your contempt for latinamericans when posting on the latinamerican board.
Don't bother answering, kill yourself
>>19081Latin is a god damn Yanqui anglosphere term that in argentina, chile Uruguay and paraguay, Bolivia and maybe even Peru has no fucking meaning at all. It only even gained prevalence because of USA media such as music and
fucking twitter.
>>19217>colonialismCope and seethe, for you Argentines the Falklands is basically what Kosovo is to the Serbs. Whining about “colonialism” makes you look bitchy tbh, a problem in the Latinx left which is why chuds have successfully won in Latinx Americax: Latinos don’t like being a bitch, they’ll want a strongman over a sissy any time of the day
>>19231I’m neutral over the Falklands as Idk too much about its history to take a side, although judging from how heated it gets (especially among both X’itter Argentine and British reactionaries) it’s probably a good idea to stay out of it.
I just see the discourse ITT as being a distraction from more pressing matters, such as the fact that Cuba has been forced into dengism, the Venezuelan Bolivarian revolution being over in all but name as Delcy Rodriguez acts as an American puppet, and the overall status of the LatAm left being in disarray as Lula has claimed to not be a leftist, whilst Colombia has a chud as its president, while Peru has as its president elect one of the daughters of OP Condor Peru’s Japanese dictator. Chile isn’t any better, nor Ecuador and much of Central America sans Nicaragua, and that is an irrelevant part of the region.
Meanwhile, yh Argentina is led by a chud that LARP as an Euro, courtesy of Chabad:
https://www.unz.com/jnino/argentinas-libertarian-revolution-was-brought-to-you-by-chabad/Might explain why Milei is so performatively philosemitic. If anyone can fact check the article, it’d be great.
But yh, the left across the capitalist-ruled part of the world seems to be in disarray or just losing badly. And complaining about football chuds as if that sport wasn’t plagued by reactionary fans for ages that often verge on violence means you probably aren’t a football fan to begin with. Sure, some groups may unfairly be tainted for doing the kind of thing other team fans do, but trust me, by 2030 it’ll be a different target for mockery and derision. Such are celebrity and football cultures.
>>19225This board is called Latin America dude.
>>19248Oh yeah on that note, maybe kinda a derail, but I always found this LatinX thing weird as fuck. We already have a gender neutral word which is Latin, Latino- the O. You can use it as an adjective or noun. You can say Latins. That's already a word. Why the fuck the X?
>>19247
Remember the Belgrano lmao
>>19252>¿que verdad?You're some kind of Brit with Chilean parents or some shit, cause that's not Spanish. Or maybe you are a filipino talking chabacano or some shit.
But idk why the fuck everybody in here talking like this. A territory is not essentially part of a country, so why the fuck everybody saying is British? The fucking British who colonized and fucked over the whole world? Those fucking isles could be anyone's, but you somehow supporting British claim, fuck that. The only reason Argentina doesn't have them is because of a consistent history of neocolonial impotence, but you should all at least not give faith to the fucking anglos you stupid fucks
Why the fuck would any country want the fucking brits on their doorstep? Is completely logical that Argentina is pushing this line in foreign policy, even if they can't do nothing much about it for the moment. But for a long time there were agreements that the British couldn't economically exploit the isle, but Macri signed a deal allowing them to do so, the fucking cuck, and now Milei will allow them to exploit a petroleum deposit that has been found, an industry that will bring a stronger anglo presence. Or should Argentina not do anything about it and just surrender a territory in its maritime space right next to itself without even trying to hinder British activity? Are you saying that a global south country should not pursue its interest as much as possible? I already said that the succdem peronist succeeded in blocking activity in the isle, even if annexation now is only a wet dream. The war back in the day was pushed by a comprador military junta that was USA's dog to begin with, using spoiled stockpiled weapons that didn't even work… It was nothing but a careerist propaganda effort to improve their public image, which was suffering because of the state of the economy. But that doesn't mean the Malvinas aren't part of the national interest, one of the only good items of ideological canon floating in argentinian's heads, that locates all of them directly against the west and in line with national sovereignty.
>>19248I didn't name the board you stupid scumbag. Latin in Spanish means latin, as in, ancient latin. It is only due to Burger cultural hegemony that the stupid germanoid angloid exonym even rolled down south to begin with. And dont tell me now that English also has latin origins cause I know and don't give a fuck, if they called the region "latin" is because of some difference they found, a difference they, of course, had to denominate in an ill-found stupid manner, cause they can't help being retarded. But what's even more retarded is turning a stupid exonym as an endonym, just because its bound with "cool" items of kitch yanqui kitsch culture, such as "cool" latin music, "cool" latin gangbangers in "badass" mafia movies, "cool" latin Grammy awards, and all this culture industry bullshit world we're living in.
Just so you know, a lot of Argentinians do call themselves "latin". As usual, you are being fooled by the media presence of the most conservative and reactionary elements in online media "culture". But that's only a recent development, even ten years ago nobody called themselves like that, and even today the exonym is only used when comparing themselves with the euroid or angloid cold, unfriendly, unloving ethos, something which to them is completely absurd and irrational and hard to comprehend and to adapt to. And even though I'm not an expert, I bet that in the whole south cone, Bolivia and Brazil it's the same way, cause "latin" (anglosphere Hispanic) culture is not so big in the region. The majority of people don't even speak English here, so why would they identify with an anglo exonym? Only inasmuch as the culture (industry) is infected with angloid influence.
>What else to expect from a both xenophobic and racist poster that trivializes a case of colonialism with his shallow, youtube video-esque knowledge.
>>19268Is there anything else you want to scream shit and piss about or have you tired yourself out?
>>19280>Muh colonialismSays the literal settler-colony. If the Falklands is colonialism, so is the conquest of the desert.
Either stop bitching about the land, or wage war to get it back. There’s no middle ground you pussy-ass bitch.
>>19283LOL BE has been crashing out over Argentina losing to Spain. Truly a chimpout.
In all seriousness though, he is really bitchy about it. Has anyone checked if BE is on his period?
>>19266>its maritime spaceOk ancap
>the westLatAm is part of the west, you dumb retard. I swear to god, anyone who thinks LatAm is third world is just retarded. Most of LatAm is second world if anything, especially as those places have better living standards than all of Africa and most of Asia-Pacific.
>>19368>Most of LatAm is second world if anything, especially as those places have better living standards than all of Africa and most of Asia-PacificThat is not how these terms are used.
>>19369Argentina is a Latin American country ergo it’s a western country, so it can’t align “against the west” since it would mean having to align against itself.
And yh, since online culture has made “first world” to mean really rich countries, and “third world” really poor countries, second world is the middling one, which would fit Russia, China, Turkey, Argentina and the rest of LatAm.
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