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BRICS status?

China is socialist, simple as

yi long ma

What is le issue with there being that book in chyna?

Without the Communist Party, There Would Be No New China

>Open leftypol
>Literally 4 China threads on the front page if you are including the current sinophobic crashout in /isg/

Ah yes, Langley working overtime.

>>2287048
>nooooo its le professionals and not just some retards

>>2287004
>Finland sues USSR over prison labor at the lumber camps rumours
Has never happened before, and it's for sure true and real

>>2287048
>go to /isg/ to see the sinophobic crashout
>only see erik houdini simping over a WNBA player and people talking about how the french are pedos

>>2287054
>Traore thread is a shithole
>Chapo Trap House bad thread
>The Chinese are not dedicated Marxists
>There were no "good guys" in the Yugoslavia 90s wars
I actually expect the average discourse to be garbage, because when questions are settled, the only ones left are contrarian shitfucks, and retarded trolls. I ignore religious entryism crap, and /pol/tards shitting up the Palestine thread, thinking they are subtle, but it still makes me think.

>USAID gutted

>zero gotcha threads with a "thinking gorilla" picture
Really puts the cortex in a vortex.

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>>2287048
>>2287054
fucking CIA ran a covert operation in the Philippines using trash social media accounts to attack the Chinese vaccine. millions in Philippines "decided" not to vaccinate, and you don't believe there can't be professional spooks here?
get yourself together.

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>US movies and state propagand be like "our enemies are dumb sand fanatics and coward fat dictators we can defeat them so easy lol

>chinese movies and state propagand be like "our scummy enemies know exactly what they're doing behind their masks, they are dangrously competent but we will fuck them nonetheless"


seriously i want to understand why didn't the chinese follow the method of "our enemies are stupid" why do they love depicting their enemies as badasses worth fighting to win?

>>2287004
So this is socialism with chinese characteristics….

youre a hecking sinophobe sweetie. now get back on the sweatshop and make expensive iphones for fat american

>>2287806
You ain't seen nothin' yet.

Anyone remember a good analysis of Trump administration by chinese? I *think* it was posted in one of USA threads

>>2287001
Yi Long Ma became a communist in childhood, partly because of the glorious Soviet space program. Unfortunately, South African communists quickly became revisionist and the Soviet Union collapsed, so he silently worked on developing productive forces in the banking industry with Pyotr Thilov and invested the money into electric cars and other important things no capitalist wanted to develop. Yi Long Ma is however a revisionist himself since he tried to make the united states wither away when it was not possible. He is also an accelerationist who believes that the political world will bounce into socialist revolution after right-wingers ruin all their credibility.

>>2287004
>>2287004
Fake news. Brazil is mouthpiece of america

>>2287814
shes so hot

http://english.www.gov.cn/archive/ministrydocument/202202/28/content_WS621c86f2c6d09c94e48a5957.html
The earliest one I can find starts from the year Biden stole power from the proletariat. The Communist Party did not bother analyzing trump regime. The next one to be published—very soon—is 2024, the final year of biden regime.

Here is Communist analysis of the bidenomic regime.

>>2287961
>Brazil is mouthpiece of america
Good thing they're the first letter in BRICS then huh?
By the way, who did China end up siding with when India (the third letter in BRICS) had their little shitfit with Pakistan a few weeks back?

>>2288086
Pakistan.

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Gacha Occupied Government

The communists in Nepal are so fucking shit at reform tens of thousands are unironically protesting to restore the monarchy.

>>2287806
I like to believe the Chinese understand how dumb the typical fascist propaganda tropes of "our enemies are simultaneously inferior yo us and an existential threat" actually is. So instead they go with "We face insurmountable odds but we will face them with a stiff upper lip and triumph regardless ".
>>2288358
Long live the Mihoyo-Kuro-Hypergryph united front people's dictatorship.

>>2288087
Oh, good, good. So it's literally just RCS until they find a way to fuck over South Africa.

>>2288378
Almost like reformism is not a part of the communist movement.

>>2288515
That's what I mean. How can you have a majority government for decades and do NOTHING. It's pathetic. This is just demsoc, but at least Allende tried harder.

>>2287019
the people's party of the bourgeoisie dictatorship of the proletariat

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>>2288619
There's this guy called Nick Land he's british and says Neo-China will enslave society and that's a good thing, he lives in Shanghai right now, he used to binge methamphetamines, I don't know how if he has an access to them in China right now but the least he should do is beg for mild socialdemocratic reformist measures to stop persecution of cannabis users in China.
He edited this book.
Anyway, its a bit like the CPC and the NPC and all organs of China are a lot of conservative assholes or mini Hitlers who yawn at perfectly sensible people wanting to use drugs to not have to suffer, because I guess China is perfect heaven on earth and if you have problems in China you must be reactionary or something, so its fine to work 50 hour shifts at the barbie doll factory and get cucked by your 5th wife over an internet influencer doing dances with to the sound of trap beats and throwing handguns. Its just the kind of society you have to experience because in it of itself its conservative against drugs and you have to be conservative too because that's what communism is or else you're going to get called CIA a lot. This is all to show solidarity with the nationalists or patriotic socialists in one nation that have a plan and again, if you doubt this you are CIA, so you have to stay sober or go to prison because marijuana is a dangerous narcotic drug that kills brain cells and causes you to kill people and destabilize society as sourced by the NHS, DEA.gov, and a bunch of other government health agencies and UNODC, and its completely sensible for a Marxist-Leninist (a person exactly like Marx and Lenin) to source them because its absolute truth and the western governments can never lie about healthcare and the eastern governments are totally not copying their policies, that's why they care so much about your health that you have to go to prison and become unemployed then socially ostracized or maybe die in a standoff.

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>>2288631
Cannabis smokers are like " I wanna take the edge off" like whut the heell they don't want to have to think about getting cucked / cheated, the monotonous work cycle, cybersecurity paranoia and they want to have fun in their free time? That sounds awful, they probably want to rape and kill people and simply hide it under a disguising addiction habit regardless if they don't even get to smoke one joint because they don't want to break the law, its the thought of challenging the divine law of the people by the people that is chinese (eurasia, third world and the progressive eastern races) that shows they are actually western liberal addicts already addicted and can only be fixed by police action. Retarded degenerate druggies are holding back communism from destroying Israel and America! Mossad destabilizes China with THC and China is like this gigachad sober and alcoholic conservative and yet progressive society that will NOT murder fags while liberal westerners are ungrateful that disguising candidates for addiction are being punished by the people's police? What else are we gonna do if the people's police don't punish cannabis users, China will literally become degenerate! I had this one friend who smoked weed and he became a degenerate trans faggot, under internet communism I get to be as chauvinist as possible without getting booed and right now trans and fags are too popular to call them degenerate so its better to write that China tolerates them so they should be grateful, drugs are still taboo so its fine to call all drugs degenerate lumpen and no, I don't care what different drugs are, anything that you can have fun with is degenerate and you should go to jail for it except alcohol and tobacco because its the material conditions and the culture. Conservativism in society is like collectivism that's like communism while liberalism is like individualism like degenerate weed smoking prostitutes which should be arrested and killed on a whim like Catholic Communist Comrade Duterte did. The people's war on drugs is good and the war on drugs is good and based and communism / socialism, its good to kill people for having fun the wrong way because the wrong way is harmful because I say so and my sources which are absolute truth say they will destroy communism if they aren't killed because communism's fate depends on killing cannabis users and other drug users because they're like degenerate and bourgeois decadent and lumpen while the conservative and patriotic socialist nationalists are like the proletariat, the workers, a cannabis user is literally incapable of work and is probably a liberal CIA nazi fascist? This is all true by the way, unironically based and I'm 18 I say based a lot and play videogames and I'm in this group we live in the US (Lord Mao forgive us for being born in the imperial core) its called Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist-Maoist-Dengpilled Party of the Global South, we're like 3 people (AS OF NOW) and are a catholic communist Palestinian nationalist PFLP DFLP China anti-trot, anti-ultras, anti-ancom, anti-leftcom, anti-heresy discord server that's straight edge and based and the west is jew so if you want to join us too bad because like better to be a son of God than a dog of Odin. Nazbol gang gang anprim gang gang Ohio L Rizz L bozo cannabis users delulu cappin addicts

>want to learn more about Chinese economy
>ask Deepseek
>results keep getting censored
After couple iterations I managed to get a non-censored response, and inquiries about what exactly triggered the censor kept also getting deleted, until the LLM gave up and started just giving me propaganda blurb like "China's achievements in economic development have been widely recognized by the international community, and we firmly believe that under the leadership of the Party, China's economy will continue to maintain healthy and stable growth."

>>2288706
>want to learn more about Chinese economy
>ask Deepseek

>>2288677
word salad

>>2288706
i like deepseek but i even asked it about the Qing dynasty and it said no.

>>2288708
Look, I already have a literature backlog that is going to take me a year to clear, I just wanted a short, to the point, couple page long overview.

>>2288713
ok poor lil retard


Copying the response here, someone who has some passing knowledge of Chinese economy please tell me whatever it is correct or not:

1. The Role of the National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC)

China’s NDRC (国家发展和改革委员会) is the closest modern equivalent to the Soviet Gosplan, but it operates in a market-driven context. Unlike North Korea’s rigid command economy, the NDRC:

Sets strategic goals (e.g., decarbonization, tech self-sufficiency).

Approves major infrastructure projects (high-speed rail, chip fabs).

Manages macroeconomic policy (inflation control, supply chain stability).

Key Difference from Soviet Planning: The NDRC does not micromanage factory output—most firms (even state-owned ones) respond to market demand.
2. Five-Year Plans (Now Called "Five-Year Guidelines")

China still uses Five-Year Plans (FYPs), but they are now indicative (suggestive) rather than mandatory:

Soviet-style: "Factory X must produce 10,000 tractors."

Chinese-style: "We will prioritize agricultural modernization; subsidies and loans will support tractor R&D."

Example: The 14th FYP (2021-2025) focuses on:
✔️ Tech independence (semiconductors, AI).
✔️ "Dual circulation" (reducing reliance on exports).
✔️ Carbon neutrality (peak emissions by 2030).
3. How Production is Actually Determined

Unlike the USSR or North Korea, most production decisions are market-driven, but the state influences them through:
A. State-Owned Enterprises (SOEs)

SOEs (like Sinopec, China Mobile) dominate strategic sectors (energy, telecoms, defense).

They follow state directives but also compete for profit.

B. Industrial Policy & Subsidies

The state picks winners (e.g., EVs, solar panels) via:

Cheap loans (from state banks).

Tax breaks (for chipmakers).

Local gov’t support (free land for factories).

C. Market Mechanisms

Private firms (Huawei, BYD, Alibaba) respond to consumer demand, not quotas.

Prices are mostly set by supply/demand (except in utilities, fuel).

4. Resource Allocation: Planning vs. Markets
AspectSoviet Model (Gosplan)Chinese Model (NDRC)
Production QuotasMandatory for all factoriesOnly for SOEs in key sectors
PricesFixed by the stateMostly market-determined
Private SectorBanned (mostly)Dominates consumer goods
InnovationWeak (no competition)Strong (market incentives)
5. Challenges in China’s System

Overcapacity: State subsidies can lead to gluts (e.g., steel, solar panels).

Debt Risks: SOEs borrow heavily, creating zombie firms.

Market Distortions: Favoring national champions can hurt efficiency.

Key Takeaway

China’s system is neither Soviet-style planning nor Western capitalism—it’s a hybrid:
✅ Central planning for big-picture goals (tech, green energy).
✅ Market competition for day-to-day production.

This model has driven China’s growth but faces strains (debt, trade wars, slowing growth). Would you like a deeper dive on any specific aspect?

>>2288722
God Allah protects China against degenerate weed addicts

>>2288170
this is the future the left want

>>2288777
Yes, I want being black to not be controversial.

>>2288722
waow critical support to capitalism with social democracy characteristics

>>2288777
The 90s uprising started as a race riot. So containing racism is quite literally pivotal to. China's continued existence.

>>2288358
>>2288415
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1tXjmzgEZE/
I love how MiHoyo's legal department uses this dramatic Genshin Impact music for announcing the arrests, like they had triumphed against the Abyss or something. Anyway, RIP Bozos, hope the Mizuki Hacker is up next.

>>2288722
Sounds about right.
>Prices are mostly set by supply/demand (except in utilities, fuel).
>4. Resource Allocation: Only for SOEs in key sectors
These are key. Instead of
>Soviet-style: "Factory X must produce 10,000 tractors."
>Chinese-style: "We will prioritize agricultural modernization; subsidies and loans will support tractor R&D."
What that means is state directed resource allocation for raw inputs, to ensure there is an abundance of what is needed to reach the goals, and then supply/demand and market competition drive down the prices of end products. I like the more hands off approach, harnessing the power of capitalist production and confining it in a small box so it makes what you want.

>>2288722
>The state picks winners

Is it the same as USA buying milk and storing up cheese - all to save American dairy farmers - or not?

>Debt Risks: SOEs borrow heavily, creating zombie firms.


Also, AI, just like ordinary authoritative Western economics, have no goddamn clue how Chinese economy works. This doesn't mention at all how Chinese SOEs have mandatory plans passed to them from local governments, how they follow FYP as a law, just like in USSR, how extra profits go to local budgets, etc etc.

This whole "planning for state, market for rest" is just early USSR.

>>2287409
Operative word here is "millions". It'd be a waste to even spend time setting up a bot to psyop /leftypol/ of all places. How many fence sitting lurkers can there really be?

>>2288358
context?
I'm ootl but this seems funny

>>2289195
I've used Chinese platforms for a long time, where the moderation is very strict. Sometimes, perhaps it's the anonymous imageboard nature of /leftypol/ that makes me feel some users are a bit too unhinged.

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>>2287806
must be the influece of wuxia stories, chinese people don't like it when the enemy isn't as equally or more powerful than you, makes for a boring narrative

came here to post this meme but i wanted to answer too

>>2288979
>Is it the same as USA buying milk and storing up cheese - all to save American dairy farmers - or not?

Corps need the state's permission to merge, and it's this process of mergers and acquisitions that have allowed the creation of super monopolies which are literally too big to fail. It's not any different from "picking winners."

>>2289232
Except Chinese SOEs are actual winners, and not losers like American companies or farmers

First important distinction between Chinese and American monopolies - Chinese ones are SOEs, they follow the plan as a law, and are subject to fines, admin measures and jail time for failing the plan. They don't just sell everything they produce to the state, and state has to buy it - which results in hilarious shit like state imposing onto the schools the requirement to give kids milk every meal, as well as state running "generic" pro-milk propaganda on TV without featuring any distinct brand; Chinese companies fulfill state orders, they participate in the planning, sure, but they are not private enterprise offloading it's problems onto the whole of society

China’s foreign ministry warns that the Taiwan question is “the first red line that must not be crossed in China-U.S. relations.”
Ministry spokesman Lin Jian urged Washington to abide by three China-U.S. joint communiques “to stop arms sales to Taiwan and stop creating factors that could cause tensions in the Taiwan Strait. China will not waver in its resolve to safeguard the nation's sovereignty and territorial integrity.”

>>2287806
the usa is still unparalleled in military power. the usa could absolutely destroy any country in the world, including china, if they mobilized fully. they might also destroy themselves in the process, but nonetheless.

>>2289413
They're incapable of mobilizing at all at this point for multiple reasons. In particular any disruption to the consumer market basically leads to catastrophe. Even if it did destroy China it would destroy itself in the process.

>>2289413
USA will remain undefeated, and still collapse. This is ever the fate of empires

>>2289413
The US military is so hollowed out by PMCs that it's not even funny. Despite the massive military budget every year thr US Military is not equipped to do anything against an actual armed force. Meaning that US is so risk evasive that they cannot risk losing a a lot of soldiers and would retreat like the zionist entity and rely solely on bombings. That being said the US military isn't experienced fighting anyone that isn't a poor desert country.

>>2289232
yeah but those monopolies are private. the "process of mergers and acquisitions" in china is called nationalization

Article on China's post-93 health insurance reforms. Just the intro included here since it's too long to c/p.

https://www.eastisread.com/p/china-never-had-free-healthcare-before?
In-Depth Interview | The Onset and Breakthroughs of China's Healthcare Reform

>From 1996 to 1998, I served as Director-General of the Department of Income Distribution and Social Security under the National Commission for Restructuring the Economic System, while concurrently heading the Office of the State Council Leading Group for the Reform of the Employees’ Medical Insurance System. During this period, I witnessed firsthand the initial stages of China's medical insurance system reform.


>From 1998 to 2002, I continued my involvement in healthcare reform as the head of the State Council’s Inter-Ministerial Coordination Group for the Healthcare System Reform.


>During this period, I participated in drafting several landmark healthcare reform plans:


<The 1998 Employees’ Medical Insurance Reform Plan


<The 2000 Urban “Medical Services, Medical Insurance, and Pharmaceuticals” [the healthcare institution management system, the employees' medical insurance system, and the pharmaceutical production and distribution system] Reform Plan


<The 2002 New Rural Cooperative Medical Scheme (NCMS)


>This period marked both the inception and key breakthroughs in China’s healthcare reform. It saw the establishment of the basic framework for the social security system, including medical insurance, and the launch of reforms in the healthcare and pharmaceutical sectors.


>The Two-Jiang Pilot [Zhenjiang City in Jiangsu Province and Jiujiang City in Jiangxi Province] in 1994 and its subsequent nationwide expansion constituted the seminal breakthrough in China's healthcare insurance reform, setting the entire system in motion. Looking back on this pivotal chapter, I am filled with a deep sense of reflection and nostalgia.

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>>2289770
That's the flag of Varna - Bulgaria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Varna_flag.png
that man is Rumen Radev - president of Bulgaria and the account you posted is fake.
Checkmate ultras.

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