/ukr/ - Russia-Ukraine War General #240
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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukrainehttps://archive.ph/44B9Qhttps://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323733https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323731https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323735https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323740—————————————————–
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DeepStateMap:
https://deepstatemap.liveEvents in Ukraine:
https://eventsinukraine.substack.com/SouthFront:
https://southfront.press/category/all-articles/world/europe/ukraine/Watch Together📺 News/events:
https://tv.leftypol.org/r/HappeningsviaKlash📺 Hangout/chill:
https://tv.leftypol.org/r/bloodcastWatch By Yourself>Video Essays / Historical Background📺 • Ukraine: The Avoidable War - Boy Boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4eNy4FCs8📺 • Ukraine's Nazi Problem - The Marxist Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yZvWAwU5W4📺 • America, Russia, and Ukraine's Far Right - Gravel Institute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0pyVJG7_6Q📺 • The Nature of Putin's Russia and Its Causes (3-Part Series) - 1Dime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8d6Vzi7zYghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zODWTfMwFGwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zuygh9Mzuo
<Current Happenings 📺 • The Grayzone:
https://www.youtube.com/@thegrayzone7996📺 • DDGeopolitics:
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https://www.youtube.com/@DefensePoliticsAsia📺 • The Duran:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdeMVChrumySxV9N1w0Au-w📺 • The News Atlas:
https://www.youtube.com/c/thenewatlas📺 • Military Summary:
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>>2300220I absolutely despise how their entire worldview is based on "our side said so, therefore their words are propaganda". It also flows into "if at least one english-speaker said our side's story, all other side's words are worthless, actually"
These kinda channels unironically quote niche books by "critics of regime", take everything in a video from one singular extra critical book, and then call people brainwashed for pointing out that they are biased idiots
>>2300341Every western dissident is a crank, probably schizo or a traitor, but woaw, this foreign dissident who studied at a prestigious western university says everyone in her country loves the TV show Friends and hates authoritarian concepts like sharing.
I can’t wait until she single handedly defeats the fascists currently in charge of the nation she hasn’t lived in for 20 years and becomes president, it will be so powerful, so touching, I’ll cry.
>>2300339>Natural consequences of being a butthurt belter, they all deserve a beatingthey're cornered, i've noticed.
butthurt belters can't reject the capitalist slavery of liberalism and globalization via a national, non-western alternative. all they can do is blame the problems of the former (how it reduces sovereignty of eastern periphery nations) on insufficient purging of soviet and russian taint. once that's gone, the gap between east and west will disappear
they cannot acknowledge the problem that longs precedes tsarism or the USSR, which is eastern europe as the first periphery of western europe and subsequent prolonged feudalism.
this is why russia is progressive. its rejection of globalization and liberalism, even from a conservative perspective, is grounded in national alternatives that intersect directly with the progressive national bourgeoisie in the east and south of the world (i was just reading how indonesia remains notably sympathetic to russia due to history). it does not fashion itself as needing to westernize further to be less poor, it needs to be more independent to be less poor.
the controversy on this board re: russia boils down to how the western right also came to reject liberalism and globalization in its own way, supposedly creating congruence between it, russia, and the east/south of the world. this broke the brains of some western leftists who i am convinced, many years later after 2017, will simply be left behind in the multipolar period after they rejected anti-imperialism altogether rather than distinguish it from western populism. once russia came to conflict with all of the g7, they failed miserably
>>2300397You're definitely on to something, NAFO demonstrated innovation, but I still think the old culture war shit dominates
I think young people don't give a shit about foreign policy and never did. It's only relevant for dunking on the other. Calling the right russophile and the left hamas lovers for example
>>2300412I don’t think being pro-Russia is common enough really for that, I think it’s more culture developing, as it does, as being contrarian to the culture of the preceding generation. There was a lot of anti-war sentiment throughout the 2000s and 2010s, thus zoomers naturally will ask the question
>but what if war good?And the reporting on the conflict in Ukraine answers that with an affirmative. Good lord above is it in the affirmative. Not even winning wars are good, just the chance to hurt a country that is objectively evil is good.
>>2300529i think only the young rightoid men like the post-9/11 war on islam. yuppie liberal youth derive a sense of superiority over past generations for cultural reasons that are leveraged to get support in a war against white, christian, but backward russia. i dont think theres much thought into it besides fight for newly progressive western democracy against 'fascist old europe' russia
the inversion of the antiwar movement is real but seems related to the rejection of globalization and liberal capitalism getting its own form in the western right. so, make the defense of democracy permanent by supporting new democracy wars against nationalism abroad.
but even then, im still not sure this is really rallying people behind the center. picrel. it's just a cheap way to control the discourse and negate the illiberal left and right in the first world as soft on the china/iran in europe exploiting our problems
i think this could've been avoided if we just accepted the nationalist right rose in the west due to the regressive nature of neoliberalism, the way it promotes plutocracy, rips apart social bonds, and perpetuates war. nobody ever figured out how to connect this to that moment in 2015 and the refugee crisis, or was too afraid to because it meant enabling the right. so we opted for the Agent Kochinski shit
but the truth is what promoted anti-austerity in PIGS in the early 2010s was probably related to the shift to the right seen with poland, hungary, brexit, trump, etc. in the mid 2010s
for my part i always interpreted it in a very simple way. capitalism reached its global zenith and ran out of new markets, when the neoliberal band aid fix blew up in 2008 the only solution left was to cannibalize both the semi periphery and the petit bourgeoisie for whatever barriers to capital it still manifested. this is despite how the latter compromised and wanted to do business, while the latter was literally the OG stormtroopers of neoliberalism. we desperately needed some reactionary barrier to rising modernity to bounce off of despite unipolarity, so we paradoxically found it within capitalism's structure, with all the essentialism that suggests. take something like engels' unfortunate views of reactionary ethnicities, races, etc. being swept aside by capital but add 150 years of bourgeois development into hegemony and stagnation, with this destruction subsequently being a misdirection from capitalism's own newfound reactionary nature that can be seen in the global 1%. what we project on russians is really about ourselves, but we need to pretend we are an international system still breaking down old empires rather than formed a new one after this process was completed
which is why im impressed when douglar macgregor can recognize we are like hapsburgs in the 19th century. the dude recognizes the way liberal capitalism divides between civilized and uncivilized is completely outdated, actually we are the ones who should be now be doing introspection as the world rises without us
>>2300556forgot pics
the 4th pic is most interesting, because it shows how democratic satisfaction is defined not by contrast with past dictatorship but new generations experiencing with global capitalism
>>2300559also the populist boost affect is across countries and left or right
and youth seem most alienated in areas more purely defined by an intersection of capitalism and democracy, the anglosphere, latam, africa, etc. in contrast to post-communist eastern europe or asian tigers
i dont think these are the conditions for NAFO to invert the antiwar movement in some lasting way through youth contrarianism.
>>2300271>grillpilled schizo should come back to this websitehe's around. just doesn't dare to put foot on this thread.
and no, literal feds like him are a threat.
literally you had cpusanon "joking" about associating with cops to snitch on Iron Felix. that would be the result, and worst.
https://x.com/AMK_Mapping_/status/1930807837321838927My estimations regarding today's Russian missile attack on Ukraine:
10 Iskander-M ballistic missiles launched, 0 intercepted.
13 Kalibr cruise missiles launched, 2 intercepted.
4 Kh-101 cruise missiles launched, 1 intercepted.
1 Kh-31P launched, 0 intercepted.
27 missiles in total, 3 interceptions. 10.7% interception rate.
As for the targets/impacts: Ballistic missiles:
4 Iskander-Ms targeted and impacted Chernihiv City.
3 Iskander-Ms targeted and impacted Kyiv/its surroundings.
2 Iskander-Ms targeted and impacted the area of Hadyach, Poltava Oblast.
1 Iskander-M targeted and impacted Pavlohrad, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast.
Cruise missiles:
3 Kh-101s targeted Lutsk City, 2 impacted.
1 Kh-101 targeted Ternopil City. 1 impacted.
4 Kalibrs targrted Lutsk City, 3 impacted.
4 Kalibrs targeted Ternopil City, 4 impacted.
1 Kalibr was shot down near Stryi, Lviv Oblast. Target is unknown.
3 Kalibrs targeted Ozerne Airbase, Zhytomyr Oblast. 3 impacted.
Anti-radar missiles: 1 Kh-31P targeted and impacted Tuzly, Odesa Oblast.
Note: The map of missile trajectories was made live during the attacks. It is not 100% accurate
>>2298394more about this note:
>his week, the Parliament of Poland voted for June 11 to be recognized as the “Day of Remembrance of Poles – victims of genocide committed by the OUN-UPA in the Eastern Borderlands of the Second Polish Republic." Not only does this statement explicitly name Ukrainian nationalists as the culprits, but Volyn Oblast in present-day Ukraine is being referred to as "the Second Polish Republic."https://notesfrompoland.com/2025/06/05/ukraine-criticises-polish-plans-for-day-of-remembrance-for-victims-of-genocide-by-ukrainian-nationalists/>The bill in question, which was submitted to parliament by the centre-right Polish People’s Party (PSL), part of Prime Minister Donald Tusk’s ruling coalition, notes that the Organisation of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) and Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) “murdered over 100,000 Poles” in the years 1939-1946.
>Poland has long regarded the wartime massacres by Ukrainian nationalist groups as a genocide, and parliament has previously recognised them as such.
>But Ukraine rejects the use of that term. While it acknowledges the killings of ethnic Poles, it argues that they did not amount to genocide and points to violence and other forms of repression carried out by Poles against Ukrainians.
>Meanwhile, OUN and UPA figures are often celebrated as national heroes in Ukraine for their role in fighting for national independence, something strongly condemned by Poland.
>In the newly approved bill, the authors argue that the new day of remembrance “will have a positive impact on improving Polish-Ukrainian relations” because “reconciliation and forgiveness cannot be built without truth”.I think the truth is it's that polelols are going to invade the second polish republic, and it'll be fun.
>This year in Ukraine, the exhumation of Polish citizens who died during the Volhynia tragedy in 1945 began. Warsaw had previously repeatedly called for the start of this process, and recently, both countries managed to reach an agreement on several issues.
>At the beginning of April, exhumation work began in the village of Uhly, Rivne region. In particular, search efforts also took place in the territory of the Ternopil region.they will hide everything they found there. the EU will turn a blind eye, and move on. someone else will resolve this feud, and it could be very possible that it's going to be resolved favored poles.
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Respected Comrade Kim Jong Un Meets Secretary of Russian Security Council Sergei Shoigu
Pyongyang, June 5 (KCNA) – Kim Jong Un, general secretary of the Workers’ Party of Korea and president of the State Affairs of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, met Sergei Shoigu on a visit to the DPRK leading a delegation of the Security Council of the Russian Federation upon authorization of Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, president of the Russian Federation, at the headquarters building of the WPK Central Committee on June 4.
The respected Comrade Kim Jong Un gladly received Sergei Shoigu visiting Pyongyang again in just 70-odd days and had a friendly and trustworthy talk with him.
Sergei Shoigu courteously conveyed the friendly greetings from Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, president of the Russian Federation, to the respected Comrade Kim Jong Un.
Kim Jong Un expressed his deep thanks for it, and sent his warm comradely greetings to the respected Comrade Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.
Sergei conveyed the special thanks of the Russian leadership to the matchless heroism and self-sacrificing spirit of the Korean people's excellent sons who participated in the operations for liberating the Kursk area and defended the precious part of the Russian territory as their own motherland, fighting shoulder to shoulder with Russian soldiers in the same trench
Kim Jong Un expressed his thanks for it.
Discussed in depth at the talk were a series of important matters for defending the common core interests by more solidly developing the special and firm comprehensive strategic partnership between the two countries of the DPRK and Russia and items of mutual cooperation in different fields. Also exchanged in a broad way at the talk were views and opinions of the leaderships of the two countries on the development of situation over the Ukrainian crisis and on the international and regional situation. The talk confirmed the consensus of stand of the two sides.
Kim Jong Un affirmed that the government of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea will, in the future, too, unconditionally support the stand of Russia and its foreign policies in all the crucial international political issues including the Ukrainian issue and responsibly observe the articles of the treaty between the DPRK and Russia.
He expressed expectation and conviction that Russia would, as ever, surely win victory in the sacred cause of justice for defending national sovereignty, territorial integrity and security interests.
Expressed at the talk was the will of the leaderships of the two countries to continue to dynamically expand and develop the DPRK-Russia relations into the powerful and comprehensive relations of strategic partnership fully conformed with the national interests of the two countries and wellbeing of the peoples and conducive to realizing genuine international justice.
Kim Jong Un wished the Russian people eternal victory, prosperity and happiness and extended warm wishes to the respected President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, and the Russian government, army and people.
Maybe useful terminology for discussing the war in the Ukraine:
https://bigserge.substack.com/p/overthrowing-fate-barbarossa-revisted
>It is relatively common for Barbarossa to be defended on the grounds that it was a “preemptive strike”, operating under the assumption that Stalin was preparing his own ground invasion of the Reich. There are elements of truth worth following there, but in general such discussions fail to differentiate between “preemptive” and “preventative” war: similar, but distinct concepts with important nuances. Germany’s attack on the Soviet Union was preventative, but not preemptive, and understanding the difference is worth the ink.
>The difference between preemptive and preventative attack is primarily one of timetable. The term “preemptive” is used to denote a military operation undertaken in anticipation of an imminent threat from the enemy. This stands in contrast to preventative war, which implies war for the purpose of preventing an expected conflict in the future, at which point the enemy is projected to enjoy more favorable circumstances and force ratios. The difference largely reduces to a question of freedom of action and the immediacy of the threat. Preemptive action is, to a large extent, forced by the prospect of an imminent enemy attack, while preventative war is undertaken somewhat more voluntarily in order to prevent the long-term strengthening of the enemy. While preemptive action is forced by a specified immediate threat, preemptive war is predicated on longer-term strength calculations and the fear that the other party will initiate war at an unspecified later date under more favorable conditions. >>2300100>fighterbomberfighterbomber is /ukr/ lore, like cirnosad. nobody mentions him seriously, but it's good bait, provided people know he's the alex jones of russian milbloggers, and quickly leads the baiter to becoming bored otherwise.
>Now I think most Russians would prefer a more hardline approach to Ukrainethis is true.
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