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>>2297358I mean, he's kinda right. With unipolarity we entered a division of universal empire and shattered periphery.
Which is also why capitalism did not divide the world between imperialists.
Luka met with Xi in Beijing
>Alexander Lukashenko held talks with representatives of Chinese business circles in Beijing the day before. Speaking about the upcoming meeting with the Chinese President, the Head of State mentioned one of the main issues on the agenda of the Belarusian-Chinese cooperation.: "The machine-building industry and the technological modernization of certain industries in Belarus. This is the idea of Chinese President Xi Jinping, who, as we can see and the world knows it, aims towards a scientific and technical revolution in mechanical engineering."
>First Deputy Prime Minister Nikolai Snopkov, who is also in China, emphasized the special format of Alexander Lukashenko's current visit to China in an interview with reporters. "Negotiations are optional. The main thing is the trip, which is unlike that with any other world leader. It's a friendly family lunch. That's the main thing. The whole trip is set up for this," he said. - "The international community should take an example from friendship, mutual support, and joint development of Belarus and China, which is demonstrated by the current visit of the President. This is not a working visit, not an official visit. This is a visit for a friendly family lunch. Perhaps, the leaders of the world powers should get together like this and talk with each other about the common future of their peoples on the global agenda."
the europeans are starting to accept the fact that America is both abandoning peace talks and refusing to participate in any 'coalition of the willing' set up by foreign allies in Ukraine. Not only that but there are discussions later this year on the withdrawal of American troops from the European continent. keep in mind this doesn't mean America is going to abandon Ukraine completely, intelligence and mapping will still be provided so as to ensure Ukraine doesn't collapse, but this is the surest sign yet that America intends to leave the Europeans to take care of their security with Russia while they swing over to the pacific and challenge China
>US Said to Refuse Air Cover for Europe Forces in Postwar Ukraine
>While British Prime Minister Keir Starmer has insisted a US so-called backstop is essential to deter Russia from breaching any future ceasefire deal, European allies have come to the realization during discussions with their American counterparts that President Donald Trump won’t provide the guarantees they have sought to back the Europe-led ‘coalition of the willing,’ according to the people, who requested anonymity disclosing private discussions.Moreover, European governments have adjusted their assessment of what’s needed to deter Russia. They now believe a combination of the Ukrainian force, allied training, European troops and aircraft stationed on NATO’s eastern flank and patrols in the Black Sea, is enough, one of the people said.https://archive.ph/q8LHd>>2297402I remember seeing that Maia Sandu making some kind of announcement to Romanians basically requesting they just accept the latest pro-neolib outcome of their elections, while standing in front of the Moldovan AND EU flags.
Tragic.
https://nationalsecurityjournal.org/the-walls-are-closing-in-on-ukraine/
>Russia’s lack of large-scale retaliation to recent audacious Ukrainian drone strikes deep within its territory does not signify weakness or fear, but rather a calculated confidence in its ongoing attritional strategy.
>Moscow is reportedly achieving its core, albeit limited, war aims—consolidating control over eastern Ukrainian oblasts, securing the land bridge to Crimea, and ensuring Ukraine’s non-NATO, neutralized status—through methodical ground advances and superior industrial output.
>Russia is perceived to be “already winning” this war of exhaustion by fighting “smarter, not harder,” and therefore sees no current need for dramatic escalations that could play into Western or Ukrainian hands.I saw Mearsheimer, Freeman, and Sachs say similar (Mearsheimer is marveling over the spring RUSI report and the grim picture it paints). The attack alters little about the war, humiliates Russia at the expense of the risk of weakening its nuclear deterrent. Thus, destabilizing the world to demonstrate resolve at the end of failed negotiations but in a way that doesn't clear a path forward for Ukrainian victory. It actually seems like the most that can be achieved by Ukrainian asymmetric warfare, but time will tell.
>>2297498https://informator.ua/ru/mobilizaciya-v-ukraine-shvayka-nazval-krysami-roditeley-kotorye-vyvozyat-detey-za-granicuwell, it's true what he said. I can't think a .ua server in ukraine would be allowed to exist in the premise of fabricating what wasn't said.
even worst, I'd assume they'll get banned eventually.
>>2297515the role of russia here was just the final piece in the puzzle, the historic eastern pole of europe giving up on some european conclusion of history and deciding to join in on the global transition, in fact having a leading interest in it because that's ultimately how it defeats the existential threat of the core which must either conquer europe's east-west division or separate russia from europe - thus the need to suppress ukraine's east-west division.
sorry for rambling
>>2297515Multipolarity necessitates a break with the unipolar order so yes I agree on that, but again the Russians are definitely not trying to push that narrative as it's much more in their interests to twist multipolarity as solely competing dual camps of NATO vs. the rest.
It shouldn't be forgotten that before 2022 the multipolarity narrative was mainly being pushed by China, who were saying that multipolarity would be about respecting national sovereignty, where the global south can be integrated into the world order through reforming Western-led institutions and increased economic ties. Russia is positioning multipolarity as a Clash of Civilizations 2.0. The Russia vision for the future is inherently at odds of China's desire for more economic integration.
It's the US and Russia that want to build their own little spheres of influence now in their own backyards, and their only concern about rivals is how to best kneecap their progress. It's a cynical viewpoint that is increasingly going to be confined to the US, EU, and Russia (and maybe satellites like ROK and Japan)
>>2297520Not sure what that's based on. The valdai speeches, brics summits, etc suggest the same old vanilla civilizational pluralism stuff the rest of BRICS promotes. That is, not anti western but anti hegemony
I wouldn't expect otherwise from semi periphery states that just want to do business and fix their half reformed states.
>>2297561like the one thousand thumbnails
China collapsed channels?
>>2297530>Not sure what that's based on. The valdai speeches, brics summits, etc suggest the same old vanilla civilizational pluralism stuff the rest of BRICS promotes. That is, not anti western but anti hegemony Speeches don't mean very much.
A thing with ideology is that it can be like flowery wrapping paper that is wrapped around something else on the inside of the package. Everyone here knows how the liberals in the U.S. give speeches about how the world consistso f competing camps of "democracies vs. authoritarians" but that doesn't include authoritarian governments such as Egypt because Egypt cooperates with the United States. Or think about the American concept that the U.S. is a "free" country because it practices American-style liberalism and countries which do not practice that are "unfree," while a materialist view suggests that ideas respond to reality differently in different countries, due to different degrees of economic and social development, so different ideas are formed. So when you look at the West, you see on the outside: a universal ideology and set of values. But on the inside (what it really is) is a theoretical basis to rank the world in a hierarchy and interfere in the affairs of other countries around the world.
Now as to Russia, it borrows the narrative of a multipolar world in order to counter the liberal ideology of America and Europe. But in essence, Russia is practicing a kind of 19th-century style power politics, which also appears to be the preferred way the Republican Party wants to direct American foreign policy. Russia has sent troops to control a country it considers a satellite within a "sphere of influence," which it demands the Western countries acknowledge and respect. China by contrast has not done that, nor does it talk about the "collective West" as an enemy although you hear that from Russia a lot. This turns into a "clash of civilizations." It's okay to recognize certain differences between nations and cultures, but when it's elevated to a zero-sum conflict, the outcomes are usually bad. This is a subjective theory and very absolutist.
The only other thing I'd say is that a reason for this is probably because Russia is still stuck on a resource-dependent path for its economy. You can make money from that, but there's a ceiling compared to technological upgrades of modern industry to create a more complex economy (again, see China here). Russia became stuck, and is trying to resolve the deadlock with a military breakthrough. But Russia not only underestimated Ukraine, it locked itself into an offensive strategy against the West in general, without (so far) demonstrating the political, economic, military and culture power to support that and win.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/06/larry-wilkerson-were-looking-at-nuclear-war.html
> Imagine, if you will, just to sort of set up an analogy, Mexico or Canada or any third party, particularly one that was proximate to our borders, launching missiles that hit Whiteman airforce base and destroyed B-2 bombers, or hit Barstow in Louisiana or Minot in North Dakota and destroyed B-52 bombers., or came in on Groton, Connecticut, where a ballistic missile submarine was being refurbished, and hit it. These are things that during the Cold War, we swore to each other, Washington and Moscow, that we would never do. These are things that are so destabilizing that Putin would be in his every right with regard to all the lessons we have learned, and they are many, to attack and to attack with nuclear weapons, and to say to the rest of the world, “They provoked me,” they surely did, “and I’m not losing my devices for responding should I be really provoked by a first strike.”
> And that’s what you are talking about. Never, never hit the assets that your nuclear-armed enemy needs to assess whether or not you are attacking them. That’s a no-no. Always been a no-no. No one disputed that in Moscow or Washington or for that matter in the other capitals of the world. Now we’ve broken that bug-a-boo. Now We’ve said, “Now it’s OK to do this.”
> And here’s what we did, Nima. You’re a smart man. We did this under Trump’s tutelage, brain-dead though I am assuming more and more he is, meaning his cabinet and others around him, we did this because we wanted to establish negotiating leverage for the next meeting. Establish negotiating leverage by allowing your proxy to destroy serious nuclear assets of your enemy. This is unbelievable. I can’t believe the Trump Administration has shown repeatedly since the inauguration, confirming much of what it showed in the 2016 forward years. That it is, I won’t say brain-dead, but completely captured by that element of fascistic neoconservative autocratic advisors who are moneyed to the neck, within its realm. That’s what’s running it. It isn’t Donald Trump. Donald Trump didn’t even know, watch his face, that Putin’s assassination was attempted, and that we had probably something to do with the intel that fed that.
> I will tell you this right now, I’ve had long conversations with people who know, we were integral, we, the United State intelligence community writ large, we were absolutely necessary for these strikes. My question to Donald Trump is “Did you know that?” And if you didn’t, why is Tulsi Gabbard still in her job? >>2297760no government on earth recognizes the Houthis as the legitimate government of Syria.
and Russia has reiterated that they have contacted the Houthis.
and who has claimed that the Houthis are being armed by Russia? at best Iran.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/06/the-defeat-of-the-west-and-its-dislocation.htmlThe Defeat of The West And Its Dislocation
>In 1976 the French anthropologist Emmanuel Todd predicted the down fall of the Soviet Union. In After The Empire, first published in French in 2001, he predicted the (relative) decline of the United States.
>In his latest (and last) book, La Défaite de l’Occident (The Defeat of the West), he laments the West's inability to distinguish facts from wishes, as seen in its behavior during the war in Ukraine. Nihilism, a lack of values and of acceptance of reality, has infested western thinking:
<Trans ideology is therefore, in my opinion, one of the flags of this nihilism that now defines the West, this drive to destroy not just things and people but reality.
>Todd recently opened a substack where he is posting speeches and talks he has given.
>Two of those, a recent talk given in Russia (in French) and one given in Hungary (in English) make (mostly) similar points.
>The downfall of the Soviet Union led to deep psychological and societal dislocations in Russia. The defeat of the West, or 'liberal democracy', is leading to similar consequences in Western societies.
>While Todd had predicted the fall of the Soviet Union, he had not anticipated the consequences it would have for Russia:
<But the collapse of Russia in the 1990s is something I would never have anticipated. The fundamental reason why I was unable to understand or anticipate the dislocation of Russia itself is that I had not understood that communism was not simply a means of organising economic activity in Russia, but also a kind of religion. It was belief that allowed the system to exist and the dissolution of that belief represented, of course, something at least as damaging as the dislocation of the economic system.
>It took three decades for Russia to overcome the psychological dislocation that was the result of the destruction of its political and economical system.
>Todd is suspecting that a similar process is currently happening in the West:
<All of this has a bearing upon what is happening today. I will talk about two things in my lecture. I will talk about the defeat of the West, by which I mean something quite technical and specific, which is not very complex and has not surprised me. I had anticipated it, and to a certain extent it’s already under way in Ukraine. But we are now in the next phase, which is the dislocation of the West, and I have to say that, just as in the dislocation of communism, of the Soviet system, I am unable to understand exactly what is going on. The fundamental attitude that we need to have now is, I would say, an attitude of humility. Everything that’s happening, especially since the election of Donald Trump, surprises me.
<I have been surprised by the violence with which Trump has turned against his Ukrainian and Europeans allies – or rather his vassals. The will of the Europeans to continue or restart the war – even though Europe is certainly the region of the world which would be most advantaged by a peace agreement – has also been a great surprise to me. We have to start from these surprises if we want to think properly about what’s going on.
>I will discuss those surprises, some of which concern me a lot, in a later piece.
>The defeat of the Soviet Union (and Russia) came after it had lost the economic war with the West. It had also lost a war in Afghanistan. The Soviet system had turned out to be a failure.
>The West, or as Mearsheimer is arguing (vid), 'liberal hegemony', has been routed in Afghanistan. The attempts to 'liberate' Libya and Syria have failed to the point where the Western 'war on terror' launched against al-Qaeda has led to the installation of an al-Qaeda bigwig as the new president of Syria. The economic decline of the West is demonstrated by the rise of China. The West's moral self-defeat of its 'values' can be daily witnessed in Gaza.
>'Liberal democracy', the system of ideas that has for decades been the leading light of the West, has failed.
>Like communism in Russia, 'liberal democracy' has not only an economic side but is also a kind of religion. The failure of this belief system is upon us.
>The accumulation of defeat after defeat by the 'liberal democracy' system has led to a psychological breakdown, an internal dislocation of the West. This is now leading to irrational acts and to seeking refuge in wishful thinking.bigger
>Or, as Alastair Crooke is summarizing the phenomenon and warns:
<The psychological dislocation caused by ‘defeat’ may explain (but not justify) the West’s ‘curious’ inability to understand world events: The almost pathological dissociation from the real world that it displays in its words and actions: It’s blindness – for example, to the Russian experience of history and to the long history behind Shi’a defiance in Iran. Yet, even as the political situation deteriorates … there is no sign of the West becoming more reality-based in its understanding – and it is very likely that it will continue to live in its alternative construction of reality – until it is forcibly expelled. >>2297807Military summary Channel has been speculating that first the massive forest in Sumy has to be flanked, then Sumy itself.
This seems in keeping with what we've seen elsewhere recently, like Pokrovsk which they've slowly been working into a cauldron, and where fighting in other large forests has been long and protracted.
I suppose it also depends on what "the current operation" is meant to entail.
https://aurelien2022.substack.com/p/after-victory
>That’s fine as far as it goes. But what happens after victory? And indeed is there even such a things as “victory” at all? The problem is that there are no objective standards for ‘victory” and “defeat” outside what may be described as the Carthaginian Option. After all, who “won” the Battle of Jutland? Or the Battle of Borodino? It depends who you believe. And even a total military defeat may only imply a temporary “victory.” The French Army was comprehensively defeated by the Prussians in 1870-71, and Prussian superiority was established in Europe. Fine, but in the aftermath of the defeat, the new Republican government oversaw massive changes and improvements to the Army, and introduced universal conscription. The Army itself went through very important internal reforms. The populist traditions of the Revolutionary Armies were revived, and even on the Left, with its Jacobin heritage, enthusiasm for national defence was strong. So in 1914, the Germans faced a stronger, better-armed, better-led and more united France than in 1870. (Indeed, fear of a revanchist France was one of the many complicating factors in the German approach to the whole 1914 crisis.) And military defeat of Germany, in 1945 as in 1918, was total, but obviously also temporary. Germany would survive as a country, and indeed after 1945 its two halves were rebuilt by the West and Russia.
>Even military “victory” can be debated. What does “destroying” the Ukrainian Army mean in this context? How would you know when Ukraine was “disarmed.” After all, when Germany and Japan surrendered in 1945 they both still had substantial forces left. We say that they were “defeated” at this point, because we judge that they were no longer capable of “winning,” or at a minimum that they could not prevent us from “winning,” according to our definition of that state. At least in the case of Germany, the capital was occupied, and there were no independent forces capable of disputing Allied control of the country. In the case of Japan, though, it’s far from clear that an invasion of Honshu, the main island, and the capture of Tokyo, was even practicable. And if the Japanese had had enough petrol, their air force could have continued fighting for some time.
>Thus, definitions of this sort are contextual and subjective. War is not like a sport with agreed rules where you can say someone has objectively “won,” or at least is now so far ahead that the opponent cannot mathematically catch up. I don’t know what the Russians have decided, but I suspect that they will make a pragmatic definition of victory: when Ukrainian forces are no longer capable of organised resistance to the Russian Army. But a moment’s thought suggests that there’s more to “victory” than that. The other two principal Russian demands seem to be for the eviction of extreme nationalists from government, and the permanent neutrality of the country. So the question is, how precisely would “victory” in the sense I’ve described lead to the other two concessions being achieved? (As well as potentially territorial concessions too.) The short answer is that there is no obvious reason why it should. The War might actually be the easy bit. >>2297852<▪ Russia and Ukraine may resume talks after reviewing each other’s draft memorandums.As you know Russia's latest memorandum was pretty maximalist, so this is pretty much saying "next talks will happen once ukraine copes and comes to grips with officially losing 4 oblasts". Not weak imo
<▪ Putin informed Trump of Kiev’s attempts to sabotage the negotiation process.That was the same sentence as him declaring the Kiev regime as terrorists.
<▪ The Kremlin hopes negotiations with Ukraine will continue I think it's pretty clear that the only negotiations that are happening is clerical stuff like prisoner exchanges as long as agent Z keeps denying reality.
>>2297854Maybe. At the rate they're going now it might not take that long. If it's true that gains in the south have stalled because Ukraine has relocated assets there from the Sumy region, then to me that indicates pretty severe resource shortages on the part of Ukraine. And tbh this sounds like a magnification of problems that were being reported months ago, that there simply aren't enough men to hold the line as is, and there aren't enough replacements to make up for losses.
So right now Ukraine is able to forestall advances only where it can deploy these certain units, but the Russians are advancing wherever they aren't. What seems likely to me is that the Sumy front will fester until its in critical condition, then Ukraine will rush in assets from wherever it can to staunch the hemorrhaging, at which point advances will resume elsewhere along the front. The result will be increasingly degraded resources as these effective units are attrited by combat as well as the stress of rushing to put out one fire after another.
If that's the case, sieging Sumy might not be on the table because there isn't even any need for it.
>>2297863Hopefully (as much as one can be with Putin), this all moot because he's come out and said "What is there to talk about? Who negotiates with those who have chosen terrorism as their strategy?"
They can do the prisoner/KIA swaps as they did during the Biden admin without the legitimizing effects of piss negotiations.
>>2297870 (me)
Optics cover isn't what I mean, I don't think. I mean that Trump has opened a diplomatic nightmare for himself with that post:
>President Putin did say, and very strongly, that he will have to respond to the recent attack on the airfields. We also discussed Iran…lmao, it's hard not to miss the tone of resignation, if not the acceptance..
>>2297859>And indeed is there even such a things as “victory” at all?Yes.
>The problem is that there are no objective standards for ‘victory” and “defeat” outside what may be described as the Carthaginian Option. The goal of warfare and what constitutes victory is imposing your political will on the enemy with the use of violence. Victory depends on whether the violence achieves the political objectives for which the war is fought.
>And even a total military defeat may only imply a temporary “victory.” The French Army was comprehensively defeated by the Prussians in 1870-71 … but in the aftermath of the defeat, the new Republican government oversaw massive changes and improvements to the Army, and introduced universal conscription … So in 1914, the Germans faced a stronger, better-armed, better-led and more united France than in 1870. Well that's true. But wars give impetus to technological discoveries, and also changes to the economic and social structures of nations, even when the wars do not lead to revolutions. In some cases, they do. The defeat of Russia in World War I, for example, led to a transformation of that country into a new type of state, with new types of social relationships. (Which was an ironic outcome for the Tsar who declared war on Germany, a kind of Hegelian "cunning of history.") The unification of Western Europe began as a result of World War II, while hurling the U.S. and the USSR upwards as the world's two superpowers.
>After all, when Germany and Japan surrendered in 1945 they both still had substantial forces left. We say that they were “defeated” at this point, because we judge that they were no longer capable of “winning,” or at a minimum that they could not prevent us from “winning,” according to our definition of that state.We say they were "defeated" because they surrendered because
they judged that they were no longer capable of continuing to fight.
>Thus, definitions of this sort are contextual and subjective. War is not like a sport with agreed rules where you can say someone has objectively “won,” or at least is now so far ahead that the opponent cannot mathematically catch up.There is a subjective and objective side. The objective side are the material realities of war: destroying enemy forces, occupying territory, things like that. But those are means to an end, which are the political objectives for which the war was fought, and that is where it can get subjective depending on their expectations.
>>2298101I can't speak for everybody or any random ultraleft weirdo who wanders in here. If you want to me to lay it out, when the war started and I saw videos of Russia's Grad rockets opening up at dawn, my actual thought "well, I hope Russia gets this over with as fast as possible because that would be the least bad option" and then Russia tripped over its own collective dick, and now here we are with hundreds of thousands (?) of dead people and nobody can give a clear answer what it's supposed to be about. I thought Putin said something about reconnecting with a fraternal people? But if there is no fraternity, then this not-war is purposeless. Or maybe it's about seeing the border lines of one's country expanding on a map like a Hearts of Iron game. Some people really get into that.
Doesn't really propose any well-defined materially better future though. That's why the Russian guff fails so pathetically, because it has some idealistic motivations, but it lacks the idealistic politics (which is why anons are calling him Cucktin). At this point it's really some exercise about owning the libs/NATO on a planetary scale. But that's a negative (-) reason, not a positive one. Just give me something to believe in.
BTW, if it's a ruthlessly pragmatic realist argument, John Mearsheimer is on record before this started saying he didn't think it would happen because Russia would be retarded to do such a thing. What a wretched and cursed series of events. Now, I think they need to stop fighting and freeze the conflict, and Ukraine should recognize Crimea as Russian (and the rest of Russian-controlled territory, why the hell not) and Russia needs to stop bombing Ukraine, and then everyone can figure out something more constructive to do.
Of course, the reality is "God only knows." Even if it does end like that, there's going to be a massive number of traumatized Azov/ex-SMO goons in both countries who will need money, are really good at assassinating people with drones, and may be equally frustrated at how the war ended.
>>2298133what it's about is Russia's sovereignty and security, and of ethnic Russians in eastern/southern Ukraine. It's not about giving western fascist libs like you good feels.
NATO policy was to systematically overthrow every government surrounding Russia and turn them into tools of their policy to isolate and collapse the RF and impose a pro-west regime that would bend knee and subordinate Russia's economy and foreign policy to the West and turn its back on China. iow to make Russia accept its permanent role as a resource colony (gas station masquerading as a country).
Russia had to either accept this or draw a line somewhere, it drew that line at Ukraine and Georgia (and Belarus).
In addition, it had committed to the Minsk agreement as the Donbas solution and backed the ethnic Russians (fraternity) toward that end. It would not allow Ukraine to impose a solution by force contrary to Minsk, yet Ukraine insisted on just that, which was the proximate cause of the intervention in 2022.
The West then chose to turn it into an all-out war to the death to bring about the collapse and political capture of the RF through proxy war, since the RF had just closed off the previous gradual encirclement and strangulation option. It is now a simple war of sovereignty and survival. Either NATO loses in Ukraine or it will proceed to collapse and capture the RF (and then move on to China). Didn't have to be this way, Russia would have been satisfied just finally forcing Ukraine to honour Minsk, but the West had other ideas and now Russia must defend itself (make NATO lose and fail at implementing those ideas).
>>2298160I never understood why Ukraine being in NATO was a threat to the world's largest nuclear superpower.
Then the SMO happened, and I discovered that Ukraine is indeed a threat because the Kremlin is full of weak-ass cracker punks.
>>2298236>I never understood why Ukraine being in NATO was a threat to the world's largest nuclear superpower.Simply look at what NATO forces did to Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Somalia, Libya, Yemen, all while expanding eastward despite reassurances to Russia.
What part of this do you refuse to understand?
Joe Biden in 1997 basically said (paraphrasing) "I think the one way we would piss off the Russians is by expanding NATO"
and yet you wanna act surprised that this pissed off the Russians?
and NATO isn't just some defensive pact, it's basically a direct continuation of the anti comintern pact during the post WW2 "peace" (cold war). Once the USSR collapsed NATO had to justify its continued existence by becoming an anti-Russian rather than anti-Soviet alliance, and continuing its expansion despite false promises given to Gorbachev. Due to Ukraine's geography and proximity to Russia, it weakens Russia strategically beyond what they find acceptable and so they are responding.
>>2298678>>2298676Beans, beans, good for the heart, the more you eat the more you fart. The phone is attached to Putin's asshole. So the Chinese beans are strengthening/hardening Putin's heart, and also making him fart on the phone to Trump.
I don't understand what the 24 years is a reference to. I assume marriage, but I don't know why Putin has been married to Trump for 24 years specifically. I guess that implies he started his relationship with Putin in 2001 but I don't know of what he is referencing.
>>2298597the emoji list from the left aren't part of the emoji list of the right.
pavel won't sacrifice his friendship with the west, as the little capitalist he is.
also, not too stupid to anger the Russian government forcing the sizing of his assets either.
>>2298676frigging liberals, I swear.
It's rather the opposite, the fact that the US is mediator in "peace accord" in which they are one of the belligerent parts. fuck these liberals.
>>2298394banderite scum.
>>2298829Only 1 building gets destroyed.
Even when Cucktin tries to be intimidating, he fails.
>>2299004yeah he is coping, coping and seething
he just can't believe what he's seeing
>>2299263fucked around
found out
>>2298160>I just don't see why the internal affairs of Ukraine and Georgia (or Belarus) is any of Russia's business.oh, would you look at that, after years of pretending to be a moderate succdem, you went full fed. congratz, you facade went off.
we all knew.
>>2299355The sumy front is collapsing, I wonder how that will affect the Donbass, and Kharkov ones. Will Ukraine divert troops there, ?, which, along with the ongoing degradation of it's spent military, and decreasing numbers, could lead to a collapse in other fronts, or, just allow Russia to take Sumy, and eventually enter Poltava ?
>>2299341Russia's military industry is smashing records and has all the missiles it needs.
You're right that it's cope, but that's not the reason for the cope.
>>2299513>>2299527some chatter i've been hearing in recent days is they may up the SMO to a CTO. and one of the things about this is it would legalize targeting civilian government officials, which is not actually allowed under SMO rules.
there's been talk about the CTO upgrade in the past and it didn't happen, but Putin's speech the other day was repeatedly making a point to say Kiev was becoming a terrorist regime, which implies the upgrade.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/06/ukraine-cost-of-6000-dead-soldiers-thousands-abducted-children-have-vanished.htmlUkraine - Cost Of 6,000 Dead Soldiers, Thousands 'Abducted' Children Have Vanished
>Busy, so just a few items on Ukraine.
> Colonel Markus Reisner of the Austrian Army just published a new overview (vid) on the state of the war in Ukraine.
> During the negotiations in Istanbul Russia offered to 'unilaterally' deliver to Ukraine the 6,000 bodies of service members of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
> Today the Russian delegation leader in Istanbul, Vladimir Medinsky, reported to President Putin:
< We proposed, unilaterally, to transfer to Kiev over 6,000 bodies of Ukrainian troops. They will be transferred using refrigerator cars where they are currently kept. We are ready to begin shortly. We understand Ukraine may have bodies of our troops as well although in much smaller numbers. But we are ready to take them over, if any.
> The bodies were mostly recovered by the Russians after the hasty retreat of the Ukrainian army from its incursion into Russia's Kursk oblast.
> This offer is a significant problem (in Russian) for the Ukrainian government. Family members of the deceased soldiers are of course pressing to receive and to bury those bodies. But acknowledging that those dead are indeed Ukrainian soldiers would be quite costly.
> The dead are currently only listed as 'missed'. If they are declared dead their families will be entitled to receive 15 million hryvnias (UAH) (US$ 1 = UAH 41,50) each (3 million at once and the rest over three years and three months).
> The return of six thousand bodies of military personnel killed in battle will cost 90 billion hryvnias (~US$ 2.2 billion) of payments from the Ukrainian budget. This is almost 10% of the military budget of Ukraine for the whole of the year.
> The Ukrainian government will have to take the bodies. But it is likely to declare most of them 'unidentified' to then slow walk the process of identifying and naming them.
> (The high cost for the budget also explains why the official Ukrainian death count is always kept low.)
> Mediniski made another point which is also of interest:
< Finally, the Ukrainian side handed over to us the list of 339 children allegedly kidnapped from the territory of Ukraine. Here is the list. We are working on it, through the office of the Commissioner for Children’s Rights. We will investigate every name.
< But I must note that, for propaganda purposes, they earlier claimed that tens and hundreds of thousands of children had been brought over here. In fact, the actual number is 339 and we still need to check how many are in Russia, evacuated by our soldiers from under fire, and how many will eventually turn up in Europe, as experience shows.
> The 'experience' Medinsky mentions refers to this item from last year's April:
< Ukrainian children deported by Russia have been found in Germany: details have emerged
< Ukrainian law enforcement officers, with the assistance of their German colleagues, have established the whereabouts of 161 Ukrainian children abducted by Russia in Germany. They were wanted as forcibly transferred to the temporarily occupied territories or deported to Russia and Belarus.
> Those Ukrainian children, abducted by the bad, bad Putin, had fled with their parents to Germany … >>2299626You know, sometimes I wish they launched the nukes. Sometimes it's worth to cut your nose to melt
everyone else's face.
>>2299794>better effortpostslol he writes half-okay theory posts sometimes. ill scroll past the flag thinking its some other multicolor and read half the post thinking yeah okay good points and then in the third paragraph comes liberalism and flattening of differences and i think wtf scroll up and realize its him. its like reading a eugene post he starts off making good points and then you get half a page into it and every other word is suddenly eugenics, except with gaynazi he undermines all his own points for nothing
and his politics posts dont even start off with effort they just come right out the gate as shit
>>2299815Yeah sovereignty isn't real lol
Case in point, Zelenskyyyyyyy was "elected" literally because he said he was going to go away from the fascist nutters and make peace with Russia and then he did the opposite
>>2299950It’s quite funny that critics weren’t too impressed by the episode despite the analysis presenting three examples of elected political leaders who campaigned via personas rather than specific and/or realistic policies after the episode aired.
But then I suppose satire isn’t as funny when it’s a prediction that feels accurate.
>>2299978The Russian hardliners wanted nukes.
The Russian moderates wanted decap strikes.
>>2299982You brought Russians up, I’m saying that anyone who thinks using the same methods as the west in the War on Terror will achieve anything is a silly bugger. Primarily that’s westerners who were raised to believe winning is strikes against “compounds” killing previously unknown terrorist “leaders”, but if any Russians think
>Boo no one cares about neutering offensive capabilities, where’s the nooks already? then they’re also silly buggers.
Ladies, ladies, you are all westoids
>>2299991>I listen to what Russians are actually saying.I think this is a dumb metric. Not even that unless you got stats.
It's like what are people actually saying? There is a lot of people saying a lot of things at any given time. It's like those "man on the street" interviews. Are they representative of anything? Or do you take them seriously? I think it's the same as a metric, which is to say bad.
Not taking a position on the strikes
>>2300007At no point did I claim I know what Russians think, saying I know where the western desire to see endless reports of individuals getting whacked while yawning at strikes on capabilities and capacity, doesn’t make that claim.
>spectacle brained<no u ackshuallySo this is just shitposting, because you can’t address the point that War on Terror tactics didn’t actually work.
>Ukraine refused to accept the bodies of the dead as part of the exchange, which was agreed in Istanbul. The first stage was supposed to start today.
>Russia will send 6,000 bodies to Ukraine. Approximately, they will be placed in special coffins and containers. Their capacity is about two meters long and 0.5 meters wide, taking into account body bags and space. Thus, about 20-40 dead people will fit in the truck.
>From Rostov, where there are special refrigerated hangars for storing the bodies of the dead, 150 specialized vehicles will transport them to the border with Belarus. This is seven times more than in previous times, when 15-20 cars were used for this purpose.
>Shamsail Saraliev, a representative of the parliamentary group on Freedom of Information, told Mash that the procedure has been worked out, and everything is ready for it, and Russia agrees to carry out the exchange at any moment. Today, representatives of the Russian Federation arrived at the border, brought the bodies, but the Ukrainians refused to accept them without explaining the reasons. The information about the exchange of 42 for 503 turned out to be fake.
Ukraine doesn't even want their own dead. Grim. At least their families will enjoy the robux and the cheeseburgers
>>2298160>I just don't see why the internal affairs of Ukraine and Georgia (or Belarus) is any of Russia's business.russian adopted slavic identity (we wuz slavs n shiet) with time turned into imperialistic propaganda (actualy we wuz >the slavs) which logically concludes to interventionism (actually you are an offshoot of us and should return into our fold)
a better question is how this is fine with holier-than-thou anti-imperialist ziggers
>>2300134Ah but that’s the problem, if they can’t identify the bodies, how can they know who is the next of kin to send the burgers and bux to?
But for real, are they even IDing the people they forcibly conscript? Are they refusing their own dead because they don’t want to be given the unpleasant task of IDing them after they’ve been dead for weeks? Is it just the optics? That they can have the narrative that the boxes are empty or ackshually contain Russian bodies if they don’t accept them?
>>2300139I am sure they ID them, but I can't imagine it's a very rigorous process
>ackshually contain Russian bodiesThey've already been saying it lol
>>2300135>a better question is how this is fine with holier-than-thou anti-imperialist ziggersNo one gives a SINGLE SHIT about Cucktin or Russian Monarchist/Tsarist wet dreams.
The reality is if Russia wants an allied Ukraine by the end of this war they will have to make massive concessions and Ukraine will become like another Belarus.
The non-negotiable demands from the Russian side are REASONABLE.
Constitutional amendment to forbid joining NATO, elimination of Fascist and ultra-nationalist groupings like Azov, Svoboda, Right Sector, C14, etc., reform of the education system to get rid of pro-Bandera propaganda and fascist mythologies, a limitation on the maximum number of military forces that can be deployed by Ukraine, and that's it. Maybe toss in a few more bones like some proper investigations of earlier events like the burning of the Trade Union house in Odessa or extrajudicial executions of all Ukrainian recruiters who coerced men onto the front lines.
Ukraine under the Russian sphere of influence will be more sovereign, more free, more economically prosperous, more left wing (because Zelensky banned and threw all the communists and socialists into jail or killed them), and more inclined to socialism than a Ukraine that wins against Russia that then proceeds to join EU+NATO.
This is UNDENIABLE to anyone with a brain. Ukraine can nationalize all major industry and collective agriculture like Belarus - Cucktin will not give a single shit because recently Russia's "free market" completely failed in their agricultural production and generated shortages of key food groups that they then had to import from elsewhere, so literally the entire purpose of this war could be considered as BTFO Cucktin and his friend's retarded liberal views and forcing Russia and Ukraine back along the socialist path.
>>2300143>Ukraine under the Russian sphere of influence will be more sovereign, more free, more economically prosperous, more left wingjust like belarus chechenya and transnistria, right?
compare any single baltic state to any other post soviet state that did not cut off russia and it's obvious what russian influence is in reality
>>2300144Belarus is the last socialist state remaining in Europe.
Chechenya is actually another perfect example for how hands off Russia will remain. Russia does not interfere at all in internal Chechen matters but merely demands that the leadership do not take up arms again against Russia or join NATO. Kadyrov could open trade deals with fucking America if he wanted to.
Transnistria is a highly isolated and vulnerable enclave there is no point in discussing it until it has been re-integrated into a newly revolutionized and socialist Moldova.
>>23001471. belarus doesn't even have an army of it's own - it's only got omon which is only good for brutalizing civilians which it does periodically by the way.
2. they work for spare change which is pretty funny considering prices aren't even that low adjusting to wages
3. the country's run like a communal farm
>>2300150if russians don't like it in europe anymore or if europeans are tired of hosting them why not just return to where you belong? they're (apparently unwanted) guests - no one holds them hostage.
>>NAZISM IS BETTER THAN SOCIALISM!!!!!!!!!not only s in nsdap stands for socialism but also ussr wasn't even socialist in the 30s and 40s
>>2300205great
not watching it
>>2300205I skimmed through the transcript and snorted at the part where he apparently says that Putin calling Zelensky illegitimate is hypocritical because Putin held a DDR residency card at some point and that evidently disqualifies him from being president. Also Tom Clancy and Anastasia (the cartoon movie) are Russian propaganda apparently.
The rest isn't that interesting but I feel like it isn't being noooticed enough how NAFO-adjacent geopolitics/military "analysis" is now taking up the ecological niche formerly occupied by alt-right/breadtube while borrowing a bit from both
>>2300220>Also Tom Clancy and Anastasia (the cartoon movie) are Russian propaganda apparently. That is an insane take
>it isn't being noooticed enough how NAFO-adjacent geopolitics/military "analysis" is now taking up the ecological niche formerly occupied by alt-right/breadtube while borrowing a bit from bothI feel like these were popular prior to the rise of alt-right and breadtube channels, because tbh prior to the meltdown over Trump and Bernie, Boris and Corbyn, etc, people’s political awareness was far more geopolitics based.
The difference being, back then it probably felt a lot more boastful how Xi, Assad, Putin are all quaking in their little booties that the World Police were closing in on them and their crimes. But after the loss of geopolitical cachet during this near-decade of alt-right/breadtubers tearing each other to shreds over how much western societies suck, opening back up to geopolitics, it takes on a much more anxious and cope-filled perspective.
Ukraine has criticised plans by Poland to create a new national holiday commemorating Polish victims of massacres carried out during World War Two by Ukrainian nationalists. Kyiv says the idea “flies in the face of the spirit of good neighbourly relations”.
On Wednesday, the Sejm, the more powerful lower house of Poland’s parliament, voted almost unanimously in favour of creating a “Day of Remembrance of Poles – victims of genocide committed by the OUN-UPA in the Eastern Borderlands of the Second Polish Republic” to be held annually on 11 July.
https://notesfrompoland.com/2025/06/05/ukraine-criticises-polish-plans-for-day-of-remembrance-for-victims-of-genocide-by-ukrainian-nationalists/>>2299794his effort posts are a weird collection of american pop culture mixed with some weird ass politics in which he then proceeds to intertwine with Marxism is a very annoying way.
and even if he had some effort posts there and there, that doesn't change his mask slipped off. what? haven't you seen papiez doing effort posts? I have. will that make ok for you that he said that the cia is da jooz for MLs?
you are weird, and you did a weird non-sequitur
>>2300274Sounds like he’s not owning up to blowing it up, just that he was never in favour of Nord Stream 2 tbh
Perhaps there’s the implication that he would have blown it up or otherwise made sure it never opened.
>>2300157>not only s in nsdap stands for socialism but also ussr wasn't even socialist in the 30s and 40sYou managed to be both an ultra and a conservative in the same statement. Impressive.
>>2300220>The rest isn't that interesting but I feel like it isn't being noooticed enough how NAFO-adjacent geopolitics/military "analysis" is now taking up the ecological niche formerly occupied by alt-right/breadtube while borrowing a bit from bothProbably because we don't watch nafo content often. I see the similarity in that all of these are time-wasting political echochambers ran by grifters, but the alt-right/breadtube is very different in that it's really a dialogue within the same culture, both sides were quite obsessed with each other and loved each other in a perverse way. The other side was there to be engaged with. NAFO is just soulless war propaganda that happens to have the same format, there is no engagement between the two sides even when they speak the same language, as is the case here. It's the same set of arguments repeated every time, both sides know it's bullshit but westoid shills keep going. Butthurt belters really see this as a hitlerian race war and it's reflected in how they behave online.
>>2300160The point is that his graph
>>2300152 was un-sourced lies and the USSR still had a higher overall GDP (though lower per capita) than Nazi Germany throughout the 30s despite the 30s being the worst period for the Soviets and the best for the Nazis.
>>2300220I absolutely despise how their entire worldview is based on "our side said so, therefore their words are propaganda". It also flows into "if at least one english-speaker said our side's story, all other side's words are worthless, actually"
These kinda channels unironically quote niche books by "critics of regime", take everything in a video from one singular extra critical book, and then call people brainwashed for pointing out that they are biased idiots
>>2300341Every western dissident is a crank, probably schizo or a traitor, but woaw, this foreign dissident who studied at a prestigious western university says everyone in her country loves the TV show Friends and hates authoritarian concepts like sharing.
I can’t wait until she single handedly defeats the fascists currently in charge of the nation she hasn’t lived in for 20 years and becomes president, it will be so powerful, so touching, I’ll cry.
>>2300339>Natural consequences of being a butthurt belter, they all deserve a beatingthey're cornered, i've noticed.
butthurt belters can't reject the capitalist slavery of liberalism and globalization via a national, non-western alternative. all they can do is blame the problems of the former (how it reduces sovereignty of eastern periphery nations) on insufficient purging of soviet and russian taint. once that's gone, the gap between east and west will disappear
they cannot acknowledge the problem that longs precedes tsarism or the USSR, which is eastern europe as the first periphery of western europe and subsequent prolonged feudalism.
this is why russia is progressive. its rejection of globalization and liberalism, even from a conservative perspective, is grounded in national alternatives that intersect directly with the progressive national bourgeoisie in the east and south of the world (i was just reading how indonesia remains notably sympathetic to russia due to history). it does not fashion itself as needing to westernize further to be less poor, it needs to be more independent to be less poor.
the controversy on this board re: russia boils down to how the western right also came to reject liberalism and globalization in its own way, supposedly creating congruence between it, russia, and the east/south of the world. this broke the brains of some western leftists who i am convinced, many years later after 2017, will simply be left behind in the multipolar period after they rejected anti-imperialism altogether rather than distinguish it from western populism. once russia came to conflict with all of the g7, they failed miserably
>>2300397You're definitely on to something, NAFO demonstrated innovation, but I still think the old culture war shit dominates
I think young people don't give a shit about foreign policy and never did. It's only relevant for dunking on the other. Calling the right russophile and the left hamas lovers for example
>>2300412I don’t think being pro-Russia is common enough really for that, I think it’s more culture developing, as it does, as being contrarian to the culture of the preceding generation. There was a lot of anti-war sentiment throughout the 2000s and 2010s, thus zoomers naturally will ask the question
>but what if war good?And the reporting on the conflict in Ukraine answers that with an affirmative. Good lord above is it in the affirmative. Not even winning wars are good, just the chance to hurt a country that is objectively evil is good.
>>2300529i think only the young rightoid men like the post-9/11 war on islam. yuppie liberal youth derive a sense of superiority over past generations for cultural reasons that are leveraged to get support in a war against white, christian, but backward russia. i dont think theres much thought into it besides fight for newly progressive western democracy against 'fascist old europe' russia
the inversion of the antiwar movement is real but seems related to the rejection of globalization and liberal capitalism getting its own form in the western right. so, make the defense of democracy permanent by supporting new democracy wars against nationalism abroad.
but even then, im still not sure this is really rallying people behind the center. picrel. it's just a cheap way to control the discourse and negate the illiberal left and right in the first world as soft on the china/iran in europe exploiting our problems
i think this could've been avoided if we just accepted the nationalist right rose in the west due to the regressive nature of neoliberalism, the way it promotes plutocracy, rips apart social bonds, and perpetuates war. nobody ever figured out how to connect this to that moment in 2015 and the refugee crisis, or was too afraid to because it meant enabling the right. so we opted for the Agent Kochinski shit
but the truth is what promoted anti-austerity in PIGS in the early 2010s was probably related to the shift to the right seen with poland, hungary, brexit, trump, etc. in the mid 2010s
for my part i always interpreted it in a very simple way. capitalism reached its global zenith and ran out of new markets, when the neoliberal band aid fix blew up in 2008 the only solution left was to cannibalize both the semi periphery and the petit bourgeoisie for whatever barriers to capital it still manifested. this is despite how the latter compromised and wanted to do business, while the latter was literally the OG stormtroopers of neoliberalism. we desperately needed some reactionary barrier to rising modernity to bounce off of despite unipolarity, so we paradoxically found it within capitalism's structure, with all the essentialism that suggests. take something like engels' unfortunate views of reactionary ethnicities, races, etc. being swept aside by capital but add 150 years of bourgeois development into hegemony and stagnation, with this destruction subsequently being a misdirection from capitalism's own newfound reactionary nature that can be seen in the global 1%. what we project on russians is really about ourselves, but we need to pretend we are an international system still breaking down old empires rather than formed a new one after this process was completed
which is why im impressed when douglar macgregor can recognize we are like hapsburgs in the 19th century. the dude recognizes the way liberal capitalism divides between civilized and uncivilized is completely outdated, actually we are the ones who should be now be doing introspection as the world rises without us
>>2300556forgot pics
the 4th pic is most interesting, because it shows how democratic satisfaction is defined not by contrast with past dictatorship but new generations experiencing with global capitalism
>>2300559also the populist boost affect is across countries and left or right
and youth seem most alienated in areas more purely defined by an intersection of capitalism and democracy, the anglosphere, latam, africa, etc. in contrast to post-communist eastern europe or asian tigers
i dont think these are the conditions for NAFO to invert the antiwar movement in some lasting way through youth contrarianism.
>>2300271>grillpilled schizo should come back to this websitehe's around. just doesn't dare to put foot on this thread.
and no, literal feds like him are a threat.
literally you had cpusanon "joking" about associating with cops to snitch on Iron Felix. that would be the result, and worst.
https://x.com/AMK_Mapping_/status/1930807837321838927My estimations regarding today's Russian missile attack on Ukraine:
10 Iskander-M ballistic missiles launched, 0 intercepted.
13 Kalibr cruise missiles launched, 2 intercepted.
4 Kh-101 cruise missiles launched, 1 intercepted.
1 Kh-31P launched, 0 intercepted.
27 missiles in total, 3 interceptions. 10.7% interception rate.
As for the targets/impacts: Ballistic missiles:
4 Iskander-Ms targeted and impacted Chernihiv City.
3 Iskander-Ms targeted and impacted Kyiv/its surroundings.
2 Iskander-Ms targeted and impacted the area of Hadyach, Poltava Oblast.
1 Iskander-M targeted and impacted Pavlohrad, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast.
Cruise missiles:
3 Kh-101s targeted Lutsk City, 2 impacted.
1 Kh-101 targeted Ternopil City. 1 impacted.
4 Kalibrs targrted Lutsk City, 3 impacted.
4 Kalibrs targeted Ternopil City, 4 impacted.
1 Kalibr was shot down near Stryi, Lviv Oblast. Target is unknown.
3 Kalibrs targeted Ozerne Airbase, Zhytomyr Oblast. 3 impacted.
Anti-radar missiles: 1 Kh-31P targeted and impacted Tuzly, Odesa Oblast.
Note: The map of missile trajectories was made live during the attacks. It is not 100% accurate
>>2298394more about this note:
>his week, the Parliament of Poland voted for June 11 to be recognized as the “Day of Remembrance of Poles – victims of genocide committed by the OUN-UPA in the Eastern Borderlands of the Second Polish Republic." Not only does this statement explicitly name Ukrainian nationalists as the culprits, but Volyn Oblast in present-day Ukraine is being referred to as "the Second Polish Republic."https://notesfrompoland.com/2025/06/05/ukraine-criticises-polish-plans-for-day-of-remembrance-for-victims-of-genocide-by-ukrainian-nationalists/>The bill in question, which was submitted to parliament by the centre-right Polish People’s Party (PSL), part of Prime Minister Donald Tusk’s ruling coalition, notes that the Organisation of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) and Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) “murdered over 100,000 Poles” in the years 1939-1946.
>Poland has long regarded the wartime massacres by Ukrainian nationalist groups as a genocide, and parliament has previously recognised them as such.
>But Ukraine rejects the use of that term. While it acknowledges the killings of ethnic Poles, it argues that they did not amount to genocide and points to violence and other forms of repression carried out by Poles against Ukrainians.
>Meanwhile, OUN and UPA figures are often celebrated as national heroes in Ukraine for their role in fighting for national independence, something strongly condemned by Poland.
>In the newly approved bill, the authors argue that the new day of remembrance “will have a positive impact on improving Polish-Ukrainian relations” because “reconciliation and forgiveness cannot be built without truth”.I think the truth is it's that polelols are going to invade the second polish republic, and it'll be fun.
>This year in Ukraine, the exhumation of Polish citizens who died during the Volhynia tragedy in 1945 began. Warsaw had previously repeatedly called for the start of this process, and recently, both countries managed to reach an agreement on several issues.
>At the beginning of April, exhumation work began in the village of Uhly, Rivne region. In particular, search efforts also took place in the territory of the Ternopil region.they will hide everything they found there. the EU will turn a blind eye, and move on. someone else will resolve this feud, and it could be very possible that it's going to be resolved favored poles.
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Respected Comrade Kim Jong Un Meets Secretary of Russian Security Council Sergei Shoigu
Pyongyang, June 5 (KCNA) – Kim Jong Un, general secretary of the Workers’ Party of Korea and president of the State Affairs of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, met Sergei Shoigu on a visit to the DPRK leading a delegation of the Security Council of the Russian Federation upon authorization of Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, president of the Russian Federation, at the headquarters building of the WPK Central Committee on June 4.
The respected Comrade Kim Jong Un gladly received Sergei Shoigu visiting Pyongyang again in just 70-odd days and had a friendly and trustworthy talk with him.
Sergei Shoigu courteously conveyed the friendly greetings from Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, president of the Russian Federation, to the respected Comrade Kim Jong Un.
Kim Jong Un expressed his deep thanks for it, and sent his warm comradely greetings to the respected Comrade Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.
Sergei conveyed the special thanks of the Russian leadership to the matchless heroism and self-sacrificing spirit of the Korean people's excellent sons who participated in the operations for liberating the Kursk area and defended the precious part of the Russian territory as their own motherland, fighting shoulder to shoulder with Russian soldiers in the same trench
Kim Jong Un expressed his thanks for it.
Discussed in depth at the talk were a series of important matters for defending the common core interests by more solidly developing the special and firm comprehensive strategic partnership between the two countries of the DPRK and Russia and items of mutual cooperation in different fields. Also exchanged in a broad way at the talk were views and opinions of the leaderships of the two countries on the development of situation over the Ukrainian crisis and on the international and regional situation. The talk confirmed the consensus of stand of the two sides.
Kim Jong Un affirmed that the government of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea will, in the future, too, unconditionally support the stand of Russia and its foreign policies in all the crucial international political issues including the Ukrainian issue and responsibly observe the articles of the treaty between the DPRK and Russia.
He expressed expectation and conviction that Russia would, as ever, surely win victory in the sacred cause of justice for defending national sovereignty, territorial integrity and security interests.
Expressed at the talk was the will of the leaderships of the two countries to continue to dynamically expand and develop the DPRK-Russia relations into the powerful and comprehensive relations of strategic partnership fully conformed with the national interests of the two countries and wellbeing of the peoples and conducive to realizing genuine international justice.
Kim Jong Un wished the Russian people eternal victory, prosperity and happiness and extended warm wishes to the respected President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, and the Russian government, army and people.
Maybe useful terminology for discussing the war in the Ukraine:
https://bigserge.substack.com/p/overthrowing-fate-barbarossa-revisted
>It is relatively common for Barbarossa to be defended on the grounds that it was a “preemptive strike”, operating under the assumption that Stalin was preparing his own ground invasion of the Reich. There are elements of truth worth following there, but in general such discussions fail to differentiate between “preemptive” and “preventative” war: similar, but distinct concepts with important nuances. Germany’s attack on the Soviet Union was preventative, but not preemptive, and understanding the difference is worth the ink.
>The difference between preemptive and preventative attack is primarily one of timetable. The term “preemptive” is used to denote a military operation undertaken in anticipation of an imminent threat from the enemy. This stands in contrast to preventative war, which implies war for the purpose of preventing an expected conflict in the future, at which point the enemy is projected to enjoy more favorable circumstances and force ratios. The difference largely reduces to a question of freedom of action and the immediacy of the threat. Preemptive action is, to a large extent, forced by the prospect of an imminent enemy attack, while preventative war is undertaken somewhat more voluntarily in order to prevent the long-term strengthening of the enemy. While preemptive action is forced by a specified immediate threat, preemptive war is predicated on longer-term strength calculations and the fear that the other party will initiate war at an unspecified later date under more favorable conditions. >>2300100>fighterbomberfighterbomber is /ukr/ lore, like cirnosad. nobody mentions him seriously, but it's good bait, provided people know he's the alex jones of russian milbloggers, and quickly leads the baiter to becoming bored otherwise.
>Now I think most Russians would prefer a more hardline approach to Ukrainethis is true.
>>2301284Mercouris turned into a clickbaiter.
Some of his videos don't even talk about what he's said in their titles, and the ones that do are often either underwhelming or based on completely unverifiable nonsense that some dude decided to email him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41dKk_qYOvE>Big Oreshnik Strikes Coming… >>2301312>Better Alex on The Duran has, for the second time in his bootlicking history, diplomatically called Putin a cuck again:i suspect pro-russian opinion and alt media use in this thread pressured some to come up with ways to deal with it due to how it undermined norms.
the question was whether the assassination, terror attacks, amount to pressure to upgrade the SMO. I don't think they ever did, and it was always a mistake to let Ukraine decide Russian escalation
>>2301302he almost exclusively relies on western (especially british) media plus online alt media found on substack etc. when he does refer to his email sources, he makes that clear and states it is unverified.
not sure how 'some' or 'often' is qualified here
>>2300615>That trend started before 2022, people like Agent Kochinski were already saying this kind of stupid shit for two to four years. It's very natural for middle class losers who constitute the best demographic to cater to as a youtuber, and of course with the superprofits slipping away they have every reason to be seething with hatred against the countries that refuse to bend the knee.dont forget this has much to do with the democrats' failing turnout after obama. youth are unreliable especially for congressional elections, so we got people promoting a popular front to counter how youtube was promoting anti-liberal content after 2015 and its backlash.
it effectively let the right set the terms and the framing for the left to act in. now we're left asking still, where is our joe rogan?
>>2301326>when he does refer to his email sources, he makes that clear and states it is unverified.He did that in the "Big Oreshnik Strikes Coming" video four months ago. We've been through this before, so I know you know there's a credibility problem with placing "Big Oreshnik Strikes Coming" first thing in the title of the video, plodding through the video to get to it, and then saying it's based on some dude's email to him. That's textbook clickbait.
And before you say it, yes, I agree with you that his videos still have value in spite of the clickbaity tactics. That's WHY I watch them!
>>2301338Unfortunately I don't remember or track whether the Oreshnik claim is based on email sources or not as it has been too long, I'm just sharing my impressions of his content after watching it for years. Merc is basically for alt geopolitical analysis based on the days news headlines. I don't recall many of the email sources being claims about the war on the ground.
Unrelated but personally I believe he should ditch the Duran and join the info sphere represented by judge nap, diesen, Sachs, and other rising podcasts. He's too bound to one old podcast from the mid 2010s which is clearly defined by the crisis of the EU.
>>2300606lol
thx for that music below, great work of art!
>>2301617Clarification: end of 2027, so by the start of 2028.
This is actually why a ceasefire is not in Russia's favor. It's just Ukraine buying time to save up forces for a push.
CUCKTIN'S FSB CALLS CHINA AN ENEMYhttps://archive.is/JWj7n
>Secret Russian Intelligence Document Shows Deep Suspicion of China>Russia’s spy hunters are increasingly worried about China’s espionage, even as the two countries grow closer.>In public, President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia says his country’s growing friendship with China is unshakable — a strategic military and economic collaboration that has entered a golden era.<But in the corridors of Lubyanka, the headquarters of Russia’s domestic security agency, known as the F.S.B., a secretive intelligence unit refers to the Chinese as “the enemy.”>This unit, which has not previously been disclosed, has warned that China is a serious threat to Russian security. Its officers say that Beijing is increasingly trying to recruit Russian spies and get its hands on sensitive military technology, at times by luring disaffected Russian scientists.>The intelligence officers say that China is spying on the Russian military’s operations in Ukraine to learn about Western weapons and warfare. They fear that Chinese academics are laying the groundwork to make claims on Russian territory. And they have warned that Chinese intelligence agents are carrying out espionage in the Arctic using mining firms and university research centers as cover.The threats are laid out in an eight-page internal F.S.B. planning document, obtained by The New York Times, that sets priorities for fending off Chinese espionage. The document is undated, raising the possibility that it is a draft, though it appears from context to have been written in late 2023 or early 2024.
>>2301667>Oh noes diplomacy differs from internal policy.>Nobody told me geopolitics went further than handshakes for the public<Also I read all about this in the NYT*Shrug* Feels like performative nods to the sino-soviet split just for cold war vibes.
Any day now.
>>2301667>nytwhy didn't you post it was the nyt?
you would have saved me one micro-second of my life spent.
>>2301681>>2301698
>Ares Leaks, a cybercrime group, obtained the document but did not say how it did so. That makes definitive authentication impossible, but The Times shared the report with six Western intelligence agencies, all of which assessed it to be authentic. hold the fuck up. are you telling me, that the nyt, in their "glorious journalism", that "everyone trusts", somehow, without anyone asking, and before anyone raised an eyebrow they went ahead by themselves and contacted other intelligence agencies to certify the "leaks" as genuine?
lmao.
>>2301692>it makes me think that a lot of research is fake and the grant money is actually being funneled into black projectsThis is what retards like Trump and Musk completely failed to understand.
USAID wasn't actually buying "condoms for Gaza" or whatever. it was the CIA or another glowie agency siphoning off more resources for their pet projects but entering it in as something different on the official budget like "study on transgender frogs" or something so no one would know the truth.
>>2301872bruh, bendits were so good.
yours is bagasse in comparison.
Kyrgyzstan has taken down a huge statue of the revolutionary Soviet leader Vladimir Lenin, which was thought to be the tallest in Central Asia.
First erected when Kyrgyzstan was part of the Soviet Union, the 23m-tall monument towered over the city of Osh for 50 years before it was quietly removed this week.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c201yy6gknpo>At 9:40:
< Gina Haspel was a former director of the CIA. Hard-nosed woman. I mean, she was London station chief. That’s one of the uh the big ones…. Gina Haspel is no pushover. She couldn’t control Russia house. She tried to. She came in and said, “They’re lying to us. They’re running re They’re running uh operations that we we we can’t we can’t control. We don’t it’s out of control. She couldn’t control Russia House….
< Russia House is the part of the CIA director of operations that runs Moscow station and runs all the covert operations against Russia. Russia House is the the center of power when it comes to uh intelligence operations. Back during the Cold War, Russia House was it. It was the center of the universe. Moscow station was the ultimate place you wanted to be. I had some limited interaction with them when I was uh as a weapons. They don’t answer to CIA command. They consider their operations to be so sensitive and so um important to national security that they keep the the people who know about them limited and sometimes they just don’t tell people about it. So yeah, Vladimir certainly knows this. He knows about Russia House. He knows how it works….
< Let me put it this way. It’s a 100% certainty that the CIA knew about this operation at inception and had been tracking this operation through implementation. 100% certainty that this that Russia house knew about this 100%. And they did not report it up to chain of command because they did not want it to to to stop. They didn’t want it to be stopped. They wanted this to happen. So the CIA, while they may not have been the trigger pullers, were definitely people watching what was happening and cheering them on. And they didn’t report it up the chain of command knowing that had they done so under this administration, uh the the plug would have been pulled. So they are complicit in this. They absolutely are. They’re running a rogue foreign policy. They’re facilitating a rogue foreign policy which could result in the deaths of millions of innocents…
< The problem is, Judge, there’s a founding document dated back to 1947, NSC 10-2, which creates the special activities department within the CIA, and it’s tasked with carrying out covert operations, deniable operations, meaning that they say right in the legislation that the CIA must construct these operations so that if they are uncovered, they are deniable to the United States. This means that the CIA by its very nature goes so deep and restricts information flows so much that they can from the standpoint of a covert operator …
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1931001733209104427.html
>June 6, 2025
>The foundations of the Ukrainian political scene are shaking again - and not because of what is happening on the front line, but because of the arrival of "uninvited guests" from Washington. 👇Image>While the negotiations between Moscow and Kiev are quietly simmering, America has decided to remind its partner who is in charge - through what Ukraine needs most: money.
>More precisely, control over that money. American auditors have just landed in Kiev, and their plan is simple - to dig out what is really happening with the billions of dollars that the US has already sent to Ukraine.
>That this story is not a theory but a concrete move is confirmed by US State Department contracts worth $814,806. That amount goes to the hotel accommodation of the employees who will stay in the capital of Ukraine for a month - more precisely, in the luxurious Hilton Kyiv hotel. 👇Image>A group of 80 to 100 people, according to available information, is in charge of a comprehensive audit: checking how funds for military and humanitarian support, logistics, security and security were spent.
>This move did not fall from the sky. For some time now, in the shadow of major diplomatic and energy negotiations, there have been rumors about the disputed spending of funds. Where have the millions of dollars gone? Who profited? And now we finally move from words to actions. Where there's smoke, there's fire - and on the Ukrainian side there are already people to "burn".
>On the very border with Romania, businessman Leonid Mindich was arrested while he was trying to leave the country. Officially - due to fraud with tenders for the purchase of equipment for energy companies like "Kharkovoblenergo". 👇ImageUnofficially, there is a much bigger story behind it all. Mindich is, as stated, a relative of Timur Mindich - a man who has been associated with Vladimir Zelenski's inner circle for years. Together with Sergey Shefir, who is called "Green in the Shadow" by the Western media, he was a co-owner of the company Green Family Ltd based in Cyprus.
>Their friendship is old. During the election campaign, Mindich allegedly personally secured Zelenskyi's headquarters, and the president of Ukraine even celebrated his birthday in his apartment. That speaks volumes about their closeness, so it's no wonder that now, when the dust settles, the closest associates are the first to fall.
>It is also interesting that the arrest occurred shortly after the publication of the research portal "Bigus.info
>" (known for its connections with Western foundations), which exposed embezzlement during the construction of fortifications. According to them, it was Timur Mindich who coordinated the whole process - and now his cousin is the first to be attacked. 👇Image>The Americans, it seems, have decided to show their teeth. Information was already circulating earlier that there are two lists for potential sanctions in Washington. The first counts 17 names, including the heads of the Cabinet of the President of Ukraine: Andrey Yermak, former deputy Sergey Shefir, businessman and film producer Artem Koliubaiev, as well as the aforementioned Timur Mindych.
>The second list is wider - as many as 279 names, including ministers, people from the presidential administration and MPs from the ruling party.
>The very fact that this is no longer being talked about in whispers, but openly, speaks of a changed tone of communication. No more "brothers in arms" - now an invoice is requested for each spent ammunition. 👇Image>The Trump administration has openly stated that it will not tolerate lack of transparency. The US Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, emphasized in front of Congress that every cent of aid will be checked, and that the inspectors are already on the job. "If it is determined that there were irregularities or embezzlement - there will be consequences," he warned.
>Donald Trump previously stated that the USA has already sent more than 300 billion dollars to Ukraine, but even to this day no one can say for sure where that money ended up. It is this uncertainty that has given the wind behind demands that extensive checks be carried out before each subsequent transfer.
>A similar opinion was publicly expressed by Elon Musk. "It's time to find out what those huge billions were really spent on," X wrote online. Trump's former national security adviser, Mike Waltz, in the same tone reminded that Ukraine, according to estimates, is still among the countries with the highest degree of corruption, and that there is no guarantee that the funds do not end up in private pockets. 👇ImageIn the background of these revisions there is an interesting detail - the recently failed energy deal between the USA and Ukraine. Some analysts believe that the pressures through the announcements about the audit and possible sanctions were used as leverage for its signing. It did not go as they had hoped - so now it is moving to the phase of pressure through the institutions.
>Finally, a broader question arises: if the fight against corruption is really in focus, why was it ignored for so many years? Or, perhaps, the moment has now come when the same corruption has become a convenient tool for achieving a wider political goal - pressuring the Ukrainian leader to give in and sit at the table.
>Until then, Zelensky will, it seems, play under a microscope. And the question is - how long can it last. >>2301907 (me)
>>2302073>>2302166>>2302171I've posted the original :/
this is the benedit.
>>2302203aw man, this is gonna angry a lot of ukrainian families, kek.
they will want the money, they will press their government to see if that's their familiar, and the ukies in the government will have win more enemies inside.
https://m-vz-ru.translate.goog/world/2025/6/5/1336755.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp
>The Kiev regime stopped paying its foreign debts, the so-called technical default of Ukraine was recorded. This is a sign not only that money ends in the Ukrainian budget. Perhaps we have before us a scheme of grandiose deception of American investors, undertaken by Zelensky and his entourage.
>Ten years ago, the post-Maidan Ukraine was on the verge of default due to non-payment of external debt. The then government managed to agree on revising debts, and their main holders were American investors. In exchange for a write-off of $ 3.24 billion and the restructuring of payments for $ 14.4 billion, creditors received a special tool - the so-called GDP-premiums. They were issued for a period until 2040 and guaranteed payments from Ukraine in the event that its economy is actively growing.
>The conditions were that. If the annual growth does not exceed 3%, payments are not made. At a growth rate of 3 to 4%, Ukraine pays 15% of the amount exceeding 3% (i.e. 0.15% of GDP with economic growth of 4% per year). With a growth rate of over 4% - 0.15% of GDP + 0.4% of growth above 4%. That is, with a 5% growth, it would be necessary to give 0.55% of GDP.
>And now, in fact, Ukraine fell into the trap of the letter of the agreement. In 2023, its economy showed an increase of 5.3% (after almost 30% fall in 2022) – the so-called low-base effect. However, there is growth in paper, and it should be paid for. And $ 665 million - only the first payment. In total, according to Ukrainian sources, the “economic growth” of 2023 will cost the state almost $ 1.2 billion in payments to holders of varrants.
>Back in 2022, Kiev was able to agree with them on a two-year delay in the performance of obligations – in exchange for a corresponding extension of the agreement (to avoid payments for 2021 in the amount of $ 120 million). Apparently, then in Kiev still hoped for this period to deal with the situation - military or diplomatic means. But now all the delays have passed, and it's time to pay.
>Ukraine refused to keep its obligations to the Americans. According to these obligations, a technical default was recorded. What does it give her and what are the possible consequences?
>In normal cases, default (partial, technical, sovereign) negatively affects the country's credit rating. And governments resort to such a step only in extreme cases. But this is clearly not the case of Ukraine.
>Full combat operations there continue for the fourth year, since the time of Euromaidan, the territory has decreased by about 20%, the population - by 25-30%. The budget covers the costs of the army, while everything else is financed by international assistance. It is difficult to imagine a more frightening picture for the lender. So the delay in payments, which is not even a national debt, is unlikely to spoil the image of the country.
>Moreover, the Ukrainians themselves are in good, they say, the money was: “Of course, they could pay the debt on the warrants. But they didn't pay, and that's good… Default is a default. And agreed with the IMF…” – says the Ukrainian economist Daniil Monin. Noting that in the accounts of the government and local budgets on May 1, 2025 remained UAH 475 billion (more than $ 11 billion). The deterioration of his ratings also does not bother: “Well, fall, and what? On the transfer of money on ERA [income from frozen Russian assets – approx. Looking at that won’t affect. The IMF also gives the money.”
>The head of the parliamentary committee on finance, tax and customs policy, Daniil Getmantsev, speaks in a similar spirit. And also recalls that last year, when Ukraine agreed on the restructuring of bonds for $ 20 billion (then the topic of possible default was also actively discussed), Kiev managed to agree on the elimination of the principle of cross-default (default on some obligations is considered a default on the other).
>However, there are other opinions. So, according to the statement of the people’s Deputy Yaroslav Zheleznyak, the money in the Ukrainian budget is rapidly ending.
>By May, the overspending of the army reached UAH 200 billion, but by the end of the month it increased its assessment of overspending to UAH 400-500 billion. And this threatens a shortage of funds at the end of the year. In addition, the recent exchange of bodies of the dead between Russia and Ukraine faces the latest additional costs in the amount of another UAH 90 billion (payment to the families of the victims).
>According to the Ukrainian press, the government began to cut costs in May: the Ministry of Social Policy took UAH 50 billion, the Pension Fund - 41.5 billion. Reduced funding even to the Ministry of Veterans Affairs. Moreover, the overspending of funds is due to the increase in the cost of purchasing weapons (external expenditures). And the fact that the government took away from the Pension Fund and the Ministry of Social Policy would ultimately support the work of Ukrainian industry and business.
>Finally, we should not forget that from June 6, the “trade-free visa-free regime” (unlimited export of agricultural products to the European market) is terminated for Ukraine. At the same time, it is the export of agricultural products that is the main driver of the Ukrainian economy and the generator of foreign exchange earnings (24.7 out of $ 41 billion in revenues for 2024). So Getmantsev and telethon economists clearly embellish the situation.
>Another thing is that taking into account the listed refusal to pay on varants saves the budget from 27-28 billion UAH in the moment to 50 billion UAH as a whole for the year. However, it does not change anything qualitatively. Then why?
>One version is an attempt to put pressure on U.S. President Donald Trump.
>The warrant holders are major American financial assets. Their most likely reaction to Ukraine’s refusal to pay is an attempt to “solve the issue” through the US authorities. And the Ukrainians will answer them that, of course, everyone will pay – if the United States resumes funding for Ukraine.
>Another one – it is possible that Zelensky’s entourage is not averse to personally warm up on the situation. At the end of winter, against the background of Trump’s diplomatic activity, the warrants traded at the maximum quotes (via the imminent peace agreement and payments). Now the quotes are falling: the world will not see, but from payments Ukraine refused.
>But who will guarantee that the Ukrainian authorities through fake persons do not buy these papers?
>The yield there is expected to be crazy: it was assumed that the holders would receive 205 dollars in payments for every 1 thousand dollars in face value for the “growth” of the Ukrainian economy in 2023. In April, these securities were traded in the range of 0.65-0.70 of the face value. Obviously, it’s even cheaper. In theory, they can be bought almost for nothing: in 2022, the varants were traded for only 10% of the face value. The main thing is to convince the holders that Ukraine will not pay.
>Today, the handiful economists of Bankova call these securities “a corrupt instrument of the times of Jaresko-Yatsenyuk”. Obviously, until the tool can be suppressed cheaply from the current owners. After that, payments will resume - only in the pocket of Zelensky and entourage, and not American capitalists. This made me sad. :'(
The Advice Led to Hell - Ilya Kharkow
I wrote about how difficult it was to get from Kyiv to Lviv on the first day of a full-scale war in the novel THE MINING BOYS. But when I finally got there, it only got worse.
The people who sheltered me sincerely did not understand why I did not want to defend the country with weapons in my hands. My hope to go to Europe seemed like a betrayal to them. At the same time, I had to hide from them not only my fear, but also my culture and my orientation.
These same people advised me to voluntarily join the territorial defense. Their acquaintances, who also didn’t want to fight, deliberately signed up there so they wouldn’t be taken to war. They said that I would be given a weapon and sent to patrol the city. They said the war would last a couple of weeks. If you don’t want to kill anyone, they said, I need to join the territorial defense.
I liked the idea of leaving more. In the novel, I skipped the moment of meeting my old friend who was interested in history. It was he who told me that the safest place in Ukraine at the beginning of the war was Uzhhorod. This city is located on the border with Hungary. NATO troops are stationed at the border.That’s why it’s safe there.
His stories about the safe Uzhhorod sounded logical. Moreover, there were two border checkpoints nearby, through which I could try to leave the country. So, when I saw a half-empty bus to Uzhhorod, I hurried to take a seat in it.
Back then, I didn’t know that my enemy wasn’t just missiles, but also Ukrainian military, police, and locals who were upset that I wanted to save my life rather than the country. They mocked my desire to preserve my life. They laugh at it even now. My unwillingness to fight angers them, and they aggressively try to steer me onto the ‘right’ path. In their opinion, in wartime, there’s only one ‘right’ path – with weapons in hands.
It’s necessary to acknowledge that our situation is dire not only because there’s a war but also because today, we have to explain things like why killing is wrong. We can’t demand that another person sacrifice their life. We can’t condemn anyone for not overthrowing the regime. All of these things can only be demanded of oneself, not of others.
I got on the bus, but soon Ukrainian soldiers stopped it. They pulled all the guys out onto the road. I refused to get off. They beat me. Uzhhorod wasn’t as safe as it seemed. It’s a big city, that’s why I stood out as a stranger there. The increased patrols may have protected women, the elderly, and kids, but they were dangerous for me.
I had to return to Lviv, where for 2.5 months, I lived in the office. I slept under the table in the conference room with glass walls. Every day, I heard stories about how another Russian-speaking guy in Lviv was forcibly sent to war. But few believed it because the official media talked about endless lines of volunteers. And I hid from all this horror in the damned glass room.
Soon, those same media outlets announced the news – territorial defenderswould be allowed to go to the war. Allowed. Allowed! But initially, I was suggested to sign up there with the opposite goal – to protect myself from the war, not to get permission to participate in it.
Good advice can indeed be deadly. Advice given not out of malice but from a pure heart. Just moments ago, you wanted to escape the war to democratic Europe, and now you’re in military uniform. Soon, you find yourself having to kill the first person. Not out of malice, but in self-defense. Then they kill you. The war didn’t end in 2 weeks. You’re dead, but where are those who gave you advice?
The Orthodox Church Outside of Russia is concerned about communist symbolism revival in Russia
https://www.synod.com/synod/eng2025/20250605_ensynodstatement.htmlStatement by the Synod of Bishops on the renewal of 20th-century ideologies in Russia
The Synod of Bishops of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia finds it necessary to raise its voice out of bitter necessity, for we find that in a time of crisis and growing confrontation amongst nations, aspects of the Russian state and society are wandering onto an extremely dangerous path: instead of the promulgation of Christian repentance and purification, we observe in certain circles a return to a false, God-opposing ideology that prevailed in the last century. This return is fraught with harmful consequences. Should it continue, we fear that modern Russia risks being considered a dark stain amongst the nations, marked by a revival of spiritual corruption, instead of her being a radiant beacon of Orthodox Truth, which is surely the calling to which her long history of Christian piety directs her.
In 1981, our Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia glorified the full host of the holy New Martyrs and Confessors of Russia. Later, the Moscow Patriarchate followed this example, having undergone a difficult journey in the twentieth century. But official positions within Russia towards her history have more recently been changing. The state document, “The Concept of State Policy on the Commemoration of the Victims of Political Repression,” which concerns those condemned under the Communist regime, was revised in 2024,1 evidencing notable alterations to the previous version (of 2015).2 These changes cannot but cause alarm amongst Orthodox believers, for they indicate a rising tendency to whitewash the crimes of the God-fighting regime of the twentieth century. When the revised version of this document was mentioned in the context of a report from a government advisor at the last official meeting of the “Ecclesial-Social Council under the Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia for the Commemoration of the New Martyrs and Confessors of the Russian Church," 3 the representative of the ROCOR at that meeting already raised questions about the serious problems associated with it and other recent trends. We feel we must now add to this our synodal voice.
Instead of a sober reflection on the essence of the criminal regime that cost Russia countless victims over decades, instead of a deepening of the people’s understanding and memory of the tragedy that befell them (a task actively undertaken by the Ecclesial-Social Council), the new “Concept” document demonstrates a backwards-step and a tendency to curtail this spiritually significant subject. The previous version, on many issues, opened the door of repentance. The new one closes it, precisely through the silencing and distortion of history.
In practical terms, this mentality could be nowhere more visible than in the appalling installation of statues of the criminal figures of Stalin4 and Dzerzhinsky5, which have recently been erected in Moscow, as if in public tribute to individuals whose inhuman and anti-Christian crimes were amongst the worst of the twentieth century; and in the recent announcements that the idolatrous mausoleum on Red Square, rather than being removed, is in fact set to undergo restoration.6 And we find this same mentality expressed in the alarming trend of revoking previously-enacted rehabilitations of individuals who were wrongly condemned in Communist times, not excluding even clergymen. One beholds the manner of this process unfolding: rehabilitations rightly granted in the 1990s are now simply declared unjustified, without the introduction of any new evidence, without critical examination — merely through the confirmation of Stalin-era verdicts.7 There is evidence that there are already thousands of such cases.8 This approach does not withstand even legal scrutiny. Individuals slandered by the Soviet regime, who since were justly vindicated, are once again being cast into the abyss of the historical falsehoods of the totalitarian period — including churchmen whose pious memory is being unjustly dragged into disrepute.9 Furthermore, such de-rehabilitations are being swiftly classified and kept in the dark: yet another alarming sign, fully in line with the structure of those God-fighting times. As the Lord Jesus Christ says: “Men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God” (John 3:19-21).
We know well the path of the Church’s people, driven abroad first by revolution and then by war. These are our ancestors. We know the difficulty and tragedy of those times, of that century. For decades we ourselves bore the slander of the Godless regime. And we rejoiced not for our own sake when the truth, even if bitter, at last became accessible; but rather because we knew and we know that the spirit of falsehood kills, and was at last overcome. We do not want Russia to fall under its dominion once again.
An example of the character of this new activity was revealed when, in the mass media, a well- known professor — respected by many in Russia — recently stated that it was Tsar Nicholas II who in fact destroyed and ruined Russia, who even led it into war.10 Such may be this individual’s personal opinion, wholly echoing the Bolshevik propaganda of the early twentieth century; but to those who know how the Ekaterinburg murder unfolded, this man’s words about the Tsar, “I would have shot him myself,” sound ominous indeed. Yet this project of dismissing the spiritual renewal and truths gained through the Church’s glorification of the New Martyrs and Confessors, returning instead to the lies of a past age, is becoming more and more frequent. We regret that despite the conclusions of the commission concerning the authenticity of the relics of the Royal Family and their faithful servants, the Moscow Patriarchate has still not been able to come to a clear determination on this question.
Therefore we raise up our voices in order to give clarity to this serious challenge currently facing Orthodox peoples, and we stand ready to offer our aid, prayer and support in resisting these tendencies wherever they are found. We call on all to recognize their authentic history, both outside of Russia and within it. Christians must live with open eyes, not clouded by false substitutions for reality; they must walk the path of freedom and light, clearly renouncing the darkness of the past rather than pursuing its revival and glorification. For more than a century, our Church Abroad has felt it her special mission to stand in the midst of this world, free of connections to any State, Party or worldly ideology, and fearlessly proclaim the simple Truth of Holy Orthodoxy. This mission is proving itself as necessary in the 2020s as it was in the 1920s, wherefore we call upon all our fellow Orthodox in all lands to join us in resisting these concerning impulses, correcting the errors to which they have already led, and holding fast to the unchanging Gospel of the salvation of the world.
>>2301796This doesn't look right.
The Russia "anti-war" CIA psyop flag outright removed the colors, not replaced them. It also changed to a lighter blue.
This is what the US "anti-war" ordinary revolutionary defeatism gesturing should look like.
>>2302409Don't panic, btw, this info is literally on their website in the open.
You'd think they wouldn't be so obvious so as to "resist" from the isle of Manhattan.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/06/07/mzdb-j07.htmlNATO powers prepare for world war: Defence ministers agree on largest military buildup since 1945
>At their meeting in Brussels on Wednesday, the defence ministers of the 32 NATO member states laid the groundwork for the largest military build-up in the alliance’s history. It is to be adopted in a matter of weeks, at the NATO summit in The Hague (June 24-25). This war summit marked a turning point in the preparations for a direct military confrontation with Russia and an devastating escalation of the global war.
>The summit took place just days after the most recent large-scale Ukrainian drone and missile attacks on Russian airfields, including in the interior of the country. These attacks were almost certainly planned and coordinated with NATO, and represent a further step in the escalating war. The decisions made in Brussels aim to massively expand NATO’s military capacity for exactly this type of escalation—direct warfare against Russia. As the World Socialist Web Site has warned, this is leading toward open war between nuclear powers and threatens nothing less than the annihilation of human civilization. (NATO risks nuclear catastrophe with attack on Russian airports)
>The core decision was to adopt a new set of military “capability targets” for the next decade, based on a comprehensive threat assessment aiming to massively expand NATO’s combat readiness. According to NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte, the NATO alliance is taking a “huge leap forward” to become a “stronger, fairer and more lethal Alliance.”
>The objectives include the build-up of large manoeuvre formations, air and missile defences, long-range weapons and logistics infrastructure. Rutte made clear that fulfilling these goals will require unprecedented military spending: “We will need significantly higher defence spending. That underpins everything.”
>In fact, the benchmark of spending two percent of GDP on defence, agreed at the NATO summit in Wales in 2014, has been rendered obsolete. Rutte stated bluntly that in the face of Russia’s arms production and the broader global security environment, “2 percent is not enough.” The new target set by NATO stands now at 5 percent. In Brussels Rutte explained that 3.5 percent had to be spent just to achieve the agreed military capabilities and targets. But overall at least 5 percent are needed to prepare for war. He said:
>“If a tank is not able to cross a bridge, if our societies are not prepared in case war breaks out, for a whole of society approach, if we are not able to really develop the defense industrial base, then the 3.5 percent is great but then you cannot really defend yourselves… If you spent about 3.5 percent on your core defense, then clearly you have at least to spend … 5 percent on defense issues”.
>While some of the European powers prefer to remain rather silent about their commitment to the new goals – given the vast implications and enormous opposition in the working class – German imperialism is particularly aggressive in adopting them. German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius (SPD) welcomed the new targets and stated that Germany, as Europe’s largest economy, would assume a central role in meeting them. Germany traditionally takes on the second-largest share of NATO’s military burden, and it intends to significantly expand this role. Pistorius announced that the Bundeswehr (armed forces) would fully equip all army divisions and brigades and massively invest in the air force and navy. He described this as a generational “Kraftakt” (herculean effort).
>Germany’s planned war budget dwarfs anything in the country’s postwar history. With the €100 billion “special fund” from 2022 and the adoption of an additional 1 trillion fund this year, annual defence budgets are surging. As leading government and opposition politicians call to raise military spending to five percent of GDP, the ruling class is openly preparing for total war. Five percent of Germany’s GDP would amount to around €225 billion annually.
>This militarisation has far-reaching implications for the working class. Pistorius left no doubt about who would foot the bill. On public radio, he cynically declared: “This country cannot be defended with welfare benefits and education.” The government is already redirecting funds earmarked for social and environmental purposes toward armaments. The EU, for example, has made leftover Covid recovery funds available for defence spending, cutting into budgets originally intended for climate and digital investment.
>The NATO strategy does not only target Russia. Rutte explicitly pointed to a growing bloc of “adversaries”: “Look what is happening between China, North Korea, Iran and Russia…” The war drive is global in scope. NATO’s stated aim is to ensure its forces can fight not only now, but also “in three to five years” against any threat.
>This is why NATO is massively increasing industrial arms production, including in Europe, and calling for “extra shifts” and new production lines. The NATO Defence Planning Process now explicitly ties the military build-up to economic restructuring. A new investment law in Germany will speed up procurement and expand industrial capacity. The government is also introducing a new conscription-style “voluntary military service,” modelled on Sweden, to rapidly boost the ranks of the Bundeswehr.
>Behind talk of “security” and “defending our way of life” lies a ruthless imperialist agenda. German capitalism is using the Ukraine war to cast off the last restraints it has felt on the use of military force since the fall of the Nazi regime and to re-emerge as Europe’s dominant military power. In autumn 2023, Pistorius stated that Germany must become “ready for war.” CDU leader Friedrich Merz echoed this in his first Bundestag speech as chancellor, declaring: “The Bundeswehr will become the strongest conventional army in Europe.”
>This policy, long advocated by the far right, is now the official programme of the entire ruling class. Christian Democrat Johann Wadephul and AfD politicians have long demanded five percent of GDP for defence. Now, this has become government policy, supported by both the CDU and SPD-led ministries.
>The German government’s insane march toward war is effectively backed by all major parties. The Greens, once self-proclaimed pacifists, have become the list fervent advocates of militarism, openly applauding the deployment of the Bundeswehr against Russia.
>The Left Party criticizes some of the recent measures but only to obscure and safeguard the government’s war agenda, while seeking to contain the widespread public opposition. Yet it voted in favor of the €1 trillion war credits in the Bundesrat and later played a key role in securing Merz’s swift election as Chancellor in the Bundestag.
>The consequences of the militarist offensive will be catastrophic. The rearmament agenda means that the ruling class will not only wage war in Europe, but wage war on the social and democratic rights of the working class at home. Just as in the run-up to the First and Second World Wars, the ruling classes in Germany and across Europe and the entire NATO alliance are responding to internal crises and international contradictions by preparing for war and dictatorship.
>Workers and youth must draw the necessary conclusions. NATO’s war policy can only be stopped through the independent political mobilisation of the working class across Europe and internationally, directed against the capitalist system that produces war. The urgent task is the building of a socialist anti-war movement that unites workers in every country on the basis of a common internationalist programme. >>2302507 (me)
some Russian milibloggers are stating this is purely a psyop from the ukrainian government to not declare these people as dead, and stop the indemnification that these families must receive.
>>2302674Topkek.
Why did he shoot him anyway?
I think high speed rail might be a case study for the progress of an industrialized semi-periphery state and the reactionary nature of a neoliberal, financialized core economy. China promotes bilateral, state-driven, materially-focused high speed rail projects to connect the global south. The G7 with Build Back Better World was focused on mobilizing private capital for funding, promoting multilateral ties between democracies as much as with emerging economies, and saddled the material development with values propagation aligned with climate goals, anti-corruption, and other forms of soft power. The result is the former is way more effective than the latter, actually connecting the world instead of just funneling fiat money to big corpos and marketing liberal values.
China has tens and tens of thousands of kilometers of high speed rail, while the US has squat. It's been working to build that rail in California for many years, in that time period China just exploded.
>>2301617>The problem is, if the original strategy was to destroy the Ukrainian Armed Forces, it failed as Ukraine is now very drone intensive and it's a question of materiel.Ukraine's reliance on drones may also evidence the AFU's destruction
https://static.rusi.org/tactical-developments-third-year-russo-ukrainian-war-february-2205.pdfThe best revenge is living well
>>2303014Of course they have a big list of potential targets. Exactly because they haven't bombed the whole "country" to ash and dust
Poland's newly elected president says he is currently against Ukraine's accession to EU
"At the moment, I am against Ukraine's accession to the European Union," he said.
Quote: "On the one hand, we must support Ukraine in its conflict with the Russian Federation, but Ukraine must understand that other countries, including Poland and Hungary and other European countries, have their own interests.
For example, Poland has an interest in exhuming the Volyn [tragedy] victims. During the campaign, I did not agree, and as president, I will not agree to unfair competition with Ukraine for Polish agriculture or the logistics sector. We need to reach a compromise and consensus on these issues. I see Ukraine as a country that, although it is very courageous in defending itself against the Russian Federation, must also respect the interests of other countries that otherwise support Ukraine." [The Volyn tragedy was a series of events that led to the ethnic cleansing of the Polish and Ukrainian populations in 1943 during World War II. It was part of a long-standing rivalry between Ukrainians and Poles in what is now Ukraine's west. Poland considers the Volyn tragedy a genocide of Poles – ed.].
>>2303114Damages your heart and leads to greater chance of cardiac arrhythmia which is obvious to anyone with a brain who has ever seen a friend consume too many energy drinks and "get the jitters".
>>2303115Because the companies making the drinks have armies of lobbyists and are powerful but Putin could have stopped them at any time since he's not taking bribes from fucking drink corporations.
>>2303118I used to be into nootropics before realizing there's nothing developed yet that adds significantly to what you get when you eat well, drink enough fluids, sleep enough, and do some daily cardio.
They're mostly just uppers, and caffeine is added to a lot of stacks. Never understood the appeal. As a stimulant, it keeps you alert, but as a neurotoxin, its cognitive effects are noticeable when you're trying to read a heavy STEM textbook or do anything requiring deeper thought. At least for me, my thoughts become flighty and start jumping all over the place with no sustained depth. So maybe I can stare at the textbook for two hours instead of one hour, but it's a cheap kind of alertness.
>>2303205If you're trying to get me to say Merc is anything but indispensable in this war, and represents how alt media in general is, it's not going to work. The dude has been an excellent link in the chain bringing together key voices and has been a great entry point to dissident views on US unipolarity.
>>2303220Ukraine is indeed losing the war. The recent trends so far in total reliance on asymmetric warfare after Kursk and a lack of US support after stillborn negotiations, with tacit Trump complacency with a Russian counterattack, only serve to confirm how it position sucks. This democracy war is a wash, no 91 borders and no united West. Instead economic and military trends show the gap between the West and the rest has closed rapidly.
>>2303415broken clock tbh
he only missed the gross hypocrisy of the west crying about foreign agent laws, which like georgia exposes how this is about the way NGOs are soft power tools
>>2303415the iliberal US cock sucker won't get any EU sanction thanks to the US protection. that's all.
also, he's very disposable, similar like ex-Honduran president juan orlando hernandez (joh), now dishonored and disgraced. how South-American leaders can't see they can get any time the joh treatment, (or trujillo, or videla, or batista, killed or exiled by the US despite sucking dry the US cocks) and for that reason they shouldn't flirt with the US, and still they do it, perplex me.
I guess the risk of having so much money and believe they'll live happily ever after leads them to do so.
>>2303433>Merc needs to actually citing his sourceshe tells you it's private communication, not from MSM, and he can only corroborate
if i were him i wouldnt go further either. maybe if the states and people running the world or fighting on behalf of them behaved better, but losers do desperate things.
i mean you have retards that try to doxx even little old me kek
>>2303603Look, you can't pretend that 1) immigration is infinite, and building a system based on exploiting other countries' birth rates and education systems is sustainable; 2) that scabbing and wage cutting isn't real; 3) that social security net isn't getting strectched.
There is a reason why every communist nation, past or present, has refused mass immigration, even when they could very easily could have gained loads upon loads of skilled and educated migrants. In 1920-30s, when USSR was top destination for work for foreign specialists, Soviets had strict work visa system. Today, China, being the same top destination for work for specialists, does the same
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/07/europe/russia-strikes-kharkiv-ukraine-intl-hnkKharkiv hit by ‘most powerful attack’ of entire war, mayor says, as Russia pounds Ukraine again
>CNN — Massive Russian strikes on Ukraine’s second-largest city killed at least five people on Saturday, officials said, one night after Moscow carried out one of the war’s largest aerial assaults on Ukraine.
>Russia has conducted extensive attacks on Ukraine in recent days, in what is being viewed as retaliation for an audacious drone operation by Kyiv that debilitated more than a third of Moscow’s strategic cruise missile carriers.
>The northeastern city of Kharkiv – which sits about 30 kilometers (19 miles) from the Russian border – was shaken by “at least 40 explosions” in the early hours of Saturday, according to a Telegram post by Mayor Igor Terekhov.
>“Kharkiv is currently experiencing the most powerful attack since the start of the full-scale war,” Terekhov said. “The enemy is striking simultaneously with missiles, (drones) and guided aerial bombs. This is outright terror against peaceful Kharkiv.”
>Video released by emergency services showed a large fire burning in a multi-story apartment block in the Osnovyanskyi district in the city’s southwest, where Terekhov said two people had died. One person was also killed in a strike that hit a house in the Kyivskyi district to the north, he said.
>Russia resumed its assault on Saturday evening. It launched a fresh round of strikes using glide bombs, killing another two people and injuring at least 40 others, according to Ukrainian officials.
>Those killed were a woman and 62-year-old man, officials said. Two other victims of the attack are in intensive care in “extremely serious condition,” according to Oleh Syniehubov, the head of the Kharkiv region military administration.
>The target of the second attack was a children’s playground with a miniature railway, Terekhov said.
>Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky called the Saturday evening attack “pure terrorism” in a post on Telegram.
>“Air bombs on civilians in the city – even a children’s railway nearby. This makes no military sense. Pure terrorism,” he said in the post. “This cannot be ignored. We cannot turn a blind eye to this… Every day we lose our people just because Russia feels impunity. We need tough pressure on Russia to make peace.”
>In his daily address later Saturday, Zelensky said that “the Russians are preparing to continue the war and ignore all peace proposals. They must be held accountable for this.”
>The Ukrainian leader also called on the United States to send “positive” and “specific signals” related to his country’s air defense. Kyiv has extended an offer to the US to buy air defense systems, Zelensky said, but it has not yet received a response.
>Last week, the Pentagon notified Congress that it will be diverting critical anti-drone technology that had been allocated for Ukraine to US Air Force units in the Middle East, according to correspondence obtained by CNN and people familiar with the matter.
>Russia said earlier Saturday that its forces carried out high-precision strikes overnight on Ukrainian military facilities. “The strikes achieved their objectives. All designated targets were destroyed,” the Russian Ministry of Defense posted on Telegram.
>More than 50 drones, four guided aerial bombs and a missile were used in the attack which also damaged an administrative building and music school in the city, according to Kharkiv region prosecutor’s office.
>Among the injured include a 14-year-old girl and a one-and-a-half-month-old boy, who is suffering from “acute stress,” the office added.
>Ruslana Sheveleva, a Kharkiv resident whose neighbors’ house was struck in the attack, described the chaotic scenes as people scrambled to escape the building. “The house was hit, right where this young man was lying,” she told Ukrainian public broadcaster Suspilne.
>“I don’t think he even understood what was happening. He died instantly. They dug his mother out from under the rubble. His father, as I understand it, managed to get out almost on his own,” she added.
>Iryna Ivanenko, another resident, said her 26-year-old daughter – who was later rescued by firefighters – begged her for help, trapped in her bedroom under a heavy slab. “I tried to lift the slab, but it was impossible,” Ivanenko told Suspline. >>2303875"YOU CAN'T JUST–" he says, choking inbetween his soylent tears
Yeah, actually, you can, and there's nothing immoral about doing so. You are a Malthusian fagg0t.
>>2303784Well, communist countries were developing nations outside of a global economy that in turn wasn't fully consolidated. I don't think we can use the USSR and China as examples per se on what socialists would do today in the West. We have to develop our own positions, i think.
Personally I propose a synthesis. The question isn't labor nativism or free flow of labor so much as labor must be as internationally organized as capital now is. The gap between the two is at the heart of this problem.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1931632515543892209?
🇺🇦🇷🇺 BIG ANNOUNCEMENT:
“Units of the 90th Tank Division of the Center Forces Group have reached the western border of the Donetsk People's Republic and continue to develop the offensive in the territory of the Dnepropetrovsk region.”
— Ministry of Defense of Russia
So Russia moves into anew region previously not touched by ground fighting. This means Russia will capture ground there and will claim the region!
Ukraine just lost another region.
>>2304586There's talk of Ukraine getting rocked, so it's ass covering at least
>massive Russian retaliation ensuesSympathy baiting for how mean the awful Russians are
<no Russian retaliationBragging about how their superior western ad achieved 98% kill rate on subhuman rushoid sloptech
>>2305327Bah, Trump could have been nicknamed the Stripper Ripper on Epstein’s island, but if Russia were the ones to somehow reveal that information, Trump would completely get away with it. With people wholeheartedly making excuses for it JUST to deny Russia a propagandic win out of the revelation.
They opened the case on whether being a Nazi can be justified before admitting that Russia had a point on Ukraine wrt to their adoration of Bandera, if anything Trump’s approval with democrats would skyrocket just to spite Russia.
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