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>>2311295 >>2312440your filename betrayed the suspense
do better next time
>>2312429hammer sickle cock and star
how i wonder what you are
>>2312455if leftypol was truly leftypol, we would be anti-service economy, full stop.
You lift your ass and you pull the bullet out yourself. What is this bougie bullshit of seeing slaves to heal your wounds.
>>2312473TROTSKY WAS WAY TOO SMUG
I IMAGINE THIS IS HOW WE WOULD ALL LOOK IF WE HAD A VOTE TO BAN ERIK HOUDINI
>>2312423based stalin cooked onion soup and ate it at home all the time
he saved himself the trouble of solving The Tipping Question which still troubles the murican left to this day
>>2312507one grandparent is 1/4 blooded anon, much more than 'one drop'.
America's one drop rule was worse, as the name 'one drop' suggests. One black great-great-grandparent out of 16 and you aint white
>>2312516 (me)
which I believe why Americans who are like 95% white and 5% Native American will unironically say they are 'native americans'. It's a leftover of the one-drop-rule mentality.
>>2312530the point of my comment was not about private property.
Though randomly wrecking objects is not a revolutionary statement against private property. It is just animalistic violence.
>>2312534wrecking small businesses harms the petit bourgeoisie and if the damage is severe enough, would force them to close shop and get a wage job.
rioting and looting is a proletarianizing force and is thus revolutionary
>>2312516hence the qualifier "sort of"
yeah I know the comparison isn't perfectly accurate and that america's thing was even stupider
>>2312542lmao you are retarded if you think the way to smash the petit bourgeoisie is to go destroy their shops one by one
and btw, bezos fully approves of your comment
meanwhile, in the side of the liberal discourse.
>>2312542fam, those smol businesses will be replaced by monopolistic businesses, who have more power, and more violence on their side.
>>2312577Good on you, actually doing something.
Leftypol is allergic to praxis. It will use any and all excuses it can to sit around arguing with people about which hats will be allowed to exist under socialism instead.
>>231259217 is of-age in New York.
>>231260814 is the age of consent in Brazil.
>>2312575read, retard.
the formation of society into two big camps (proletariat and bourgeoisie) is prerequisite for proletarian revolution.
this ENTAILS monopolization.
>>2312591weeeeell….
that it isn't by itself a prediction, because monopolistic capital corporations do leave some windows to get some proles rich enough to start their own business.
you see, they've learned throughout the years how to apply shear without tearing. quite the philosophy they learn in wall street.
>>2312589champ, it's a pedo. 25 y.o. on average is the time when a person fully develops their frontal cortex. and below 18 is even worse. they can be easily manipulated for the sakes of sex, because that's the only reason they sneak into the life of a minor.
>>2312671Glownonymous and his jewish obsession syndrome smh
I wonder what's with the jews which gets people seething to that extent for centuries lmao
>>2312705It's just bizzaro incel obsession. These guys feel society's disapproval is keeping them from dating young women.
>>2312713>if i was 40, picking up teenage girls, i would get some grief for it, i assure you.If they were legal age, no. Who the fuck do you think is going to give you grief? They'll just make comments behind your back.
>>2312646People did all these things at significantly younger ages throughout the vast majority of history. My grandparents were in the workforce and starting families by the age of 18. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
>>2312648I'm doing it to be a shithead. I have no interest in a relationship with any significant age gap, and am old enough that that puts anyone even approaching underage way outside of what I'm looking for. I just like seeing people get really fucking angry about it.
>>2312720America does this x100000, specially on Arab countries but I dont see this level of anti-americanism from them
The moment they understand America is the puppeteer and Israel is the convenient puppet, the better Palestinian resistance will be.
>>2312646some countries only allow citizens to vote when they are 25 y.o. for this same reason.
though with a great education system it should be easily allowed for 16y.o. to vote.
>>2312743>America is the puppeteer and Israel is the convenient puppetlmao
In Israel you can criticize America
In America you can't criticize Israel
Who's the master?
>>2312558>bezos fully approves of your commentanti-monopolization rhetoric is evidently social-democratic because it believes that the issue with capitalism is somehow monopoly. lenin remarked that socialism = worker's state + monopoly capitalism. monopolization concentrates capital. concetration of capital implies centralization of capital and centralization of capital develops productive forces.
no capital is not just heavy industry and no productive forces isn't just heavy industry and gdp go up without centralization of production, which in capitalism happens because of monopolization, you can't get over to socialism because there are
too fucking many petty-bourgeois shoemakers around.
>>2312755sandi anon, maybe you weren't here earlier but glownonymous wasn't taking a principled stand against zionism, he was making indefensible and retarded nazi. let me know if you disagree with this:
>>2312481if you agree with that we have no beef
>>2312787>In Israel you can criticize Americahave you ever read a news outlet from the zionistland that trashes US imperialism?
show me an example.
Also, the soldiers fighting in the Gaza trenches are zios, not Americans.
>>2312821i have no clue whats going on over there, but im pretty sure its going to be just another nothingburger
>>2312824>da jooz are the reason for the age of consent/pol/ immigrant.
>>2312808>Yes really. Now keep whining about age of consent while I have LEGAL sex with a 16 year old.>muh laws.it was legal to have slaves.
are you going to be fine if someone declares you their possession because it's law?
also, go back to /pol/ retard.
>>2312851>these two don't even cancel each other outexcept they do, the second sentence can only be called antisemitic if the first one is false
either israel represents all jews or pointing to israel is not antisemitic, it's one or the other
>>2312871antisemities pretend israel represents all jews, then they pretend that israel drives US foreign policy knowing
A) that israel does not represent all jews
and
B) that the US reactionary ruling class chooses to back zionism
while knowing that
C) people mentally equate israel with all jews so that they will draw the reactionary conclusions that it's da jooz and not da zionists (the majority of which aren't even jewish but imperialists plotting to destabilize the middle east using reactionary ethnonationalism embraced by a majority of but not all jews)
>>2312882>antisemities pretend israel represents all jewsok, so you don't think israel represents all jews
what's the problem then? how is pointing to israelis antisemitic if israel
does not represent all jews?
>people mentally equate israel with all jewsi'm not responsible for what happens inside your head you histrionic and schizophrenic zio, you're not getting hate crimed by me pointing out the fact of the zionist lobby, get the fuck over yourself
>>2312893>i'm not responsible for what happens inside your head you histrionic and schizophrenic zioI'm not zionist. zionism is the antisemitic belief that jews belong in a fake ethnostate serving as a forward operating base for US imperialism. you keep calling everyone who rightly recognizes you as an bigot zionist. but none of us are zionist.
here is my position:
death to zionism
death to nazism
death to religion in general (including judaism)
death to bigotry (including real antisemitism, not simply opposing zionism)
death to capitalism (of course)
and death to snarky annoying cunts like you. please find a new way to misconstrue what I am saying as a defense of zionism (you will)
>>2312919antisemites dismiss marx even though he wasn't a practicing religious jew. antisemites deported european jews (including the secular non pracitcing ones) to palestine, thereby feeding zionism. antisemites did pogroms. perhaps antisemitism is more than simply justified anger towards abrahamic dogma, but naked bigotry against anyone deemed jewish, even when they aren't a pracitcing jew or zionist
(sandi/glow will say this post is zionist/jewish/made by a rabbi)
>>2312917>the majority of users do not get bannedi don't know if you paraglided here yesterday but actually yes the mods did ban a bunch of people for posting about the zionist lobby for months in the palestine thread
this is not up for discussion
>>2312923don't care, didn't read
blow it out your ass jew boy
everywhere?
These riots are NOT about ICE, they’re about keeping America in NATO.
For the past seven months the deep state has been trying to foment an American Years of Lead, identical to what happened in Italy and Jamaica in the 1970s. They want to see American society be plunged into political chaos, confusion and mass destruction. This will cause the Trump Administration to destabilize and will ensure the Democrats win big in 2028, hence America stays in NATO and the Malthusian abortion lobby is able to keep reducing the human population.
Several events that have happened over the past seven months, such as the killing of the healthcare CEO, the multiple assassination attempts on Trump, violent Palestine protests, the Tesla burnings, violent attacks on right-wing activists, Governor Shapiro’s mansion being arsoned, the murder of two Israeli embassy workers and now the mass riots against ICE in LA are all a part of this grander scheme. It’s all about using sporadic acts of political violence with the intent of destabilizing America, creating an environment of chaos and confusion and seeing Trump’s attempts at having America leave NATO crumble. We also see fighting within the ruling class, as Trump wants to privilege ICE while dismantling the FBI while the deep state wants to maintain the FBI but has little interest in ICE.
DON’T FALL FOR IT. We do NOT need sporadic political violence but a PEACEFUL TRANSITION to an anti-imperialist government. DO NOT GLORIFY THESE PRO-NATO RIOTS. Don’t be surprised if you see liberals showing up to these riots holding Ukrainian flags. That’s the main agenda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qda4JY36BBA [Open]
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)>>2312911>why don't you answer my loaded question you must be a zio here is my position
death to zionism
death to nazism
death to religion in general (including judaism)
death to bigotry (including real antisemitism, not simply opposing zionism)
death to capitalism (of course)
and death to snarky annoying cunts like you. please find a new way to misconstrue what I am saying as a defense of zionism (you will)
>>2312923>he wasn't a practicing religious jewhe wasn't a jew period, there's no such thing as "secular jew" for the mentally sane who reject this ethnonationalist death cult
"secular jews" are either people whose family is/was jewish at some point and they are not (which makes them not jewish if you have a working brain) OR actual jews dressing up as "secular" but still pushing zion such "atheists" for israel
does "secular christian" make sense? no
<OH BUT IT'S MORE COMPLICATED, WE GOTTA UNPACK THIS UHM… HOLOCAUST… POGROM… UHM…no, go fuck yourself
>>2312942>he wasn't a jew periodand yet antisemites dismiss marx and marxism as "jewish lies"
are you starting to see my problem with antisemitism now? It doesn't merely target jews, let alone zionist jews, it targets anyone DEEMED "jewish" and your main tactic in your "conversations" with me is to call me "jewish" or "zionist" depending on your mood even though I am neither of those things.
Get it now? If not, kill yourself.
>>2312999>does nazism make sense?<yes it does, it was a widespread phenomenon in western europewhen you read stuff you should interpret it in the context of the entire thing you're reading, in this case my post
i clearly meant "make sense?" as "is this logical thing we should keep doing?", not "does this exist?", RETARD
>>2312555Well he couldn't get it tattooed on his foreskin or frenulum.
Because it got cut off when he was a baby.
>>2312945>>2312977>>2312987You're acting like this post is somehow different from older American propaganda. What makes this worse or a downgrade in your minds?
>>2312982>people are going through ethnic cleansingi am actually opposed to zionist ethnic cleansing of palestinians. you are just a troll that accuses anyone who tries to be nuanced with you of being a "rabbi" or "jew" or "zionist" depending on your mood. you just make shit up.
>>2312980he is doing consensus crack and he always shows up to defend the poltards also trying to do consensus crack
>>2312983no they merely influence it, along with saudi arabia, UAE, Qatar, Turkey, and others.
They influence it more than those other countries though. Why? Because schizophrenic western supreamacist ideology dictates that Israeli Jews are "more western" than middle eastern muslims hence the extra support for their settler colonial ethnostate.
>>2313103Okay
retardThe punishment for ban evasion is still sypposedly permaban but they let the original IP ban expire like normal anyway
>>2313075Yeah lets just ignore American history that's so dumb.
>>2313083Concussion is that America is just reverting to it's natural state and this isn't some anomaly.
>>2313088>>2313101>>2313102Maybe some of us don't want to have our IP logged and identity found by the capitalist Gestapo.
>>2312855Marx directly wrote about this, but its hidden in one of his letters, so I forgive any who has only ever read
the festo and parts of das from being ignorant on the Marxist viewpoint
<Marx to Sigfurd Meyer and August Vogt in New York <https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1870/letters/70_04_09.htm>And most important of all! Every industrial and commercial centre in England now possesses a working class divided into two hostile camps, English proletarians and Irish proletarians. The ordinary English worker hates the Irish worker as a competitor who lowers his standard of life. In relation to the Irish worker he regards himself as a member of the ruling nation and consequently he becomes a tool of the English aristocrats and capitalists against Ireland, thus strengthening their domination over himself. He cherishes religious, social, and national prejudices against the Irish worker. His attitude towards him is much the same as that of the “poor whites” to the Negroes in the former slave states of the U.S.A.. The Irishman pays him back with interest in his own money. He sees in the English worker both the accomplice and the stupid tool of the English rulers in Ireland.>This antagonism is artificially kept alive and intensified by the press, the pulpit, the comic papers, in short, by all the means at the disposal of the ruling classes. This antagonism is the secret of the impotence of the English working class, despite its organization. It is the secret by which the capitalist class maintains its power. And the latter is quite aware of this.Marx reminds us that there is only one working class–the international working class–and that their interests are one.
In order to maintain their position above the working class, the bourgeoisie exploits tensions between migrant and domestic labor by convincing the domestic workers that the immigrant workers keep his wages and standard of living low and the immigrant workers that the domestic workers oppresses him.
Both of these ideas keep the working class split, raise false consciousness, and prevent proletarian organization and revolution.
>>2313138ok but that's impossible unless you force EVERYONE to post only on tor, there's no difference between me and a "brand new user" if i just go inside a brand new tube
>>2313147>tor node will eventually require sign-inantisemitic conspiracy theory, mods would never do this
>>2313159>impossible unless you force EVERYONE to post only on tor,this place would be better if it was an onion image board tbqh
>>2313168stop repeating your bosses instructions
>>2312855>people who came here illegally shouldn't be defended so much? They suppress wagesso do people who come here legally.
Capitalism/Imperialism/Climate change incentivizes immigration, especially core → periphery immigration. Captialism/Imperialism/Climate Change create the conditions which cause immigration and should be attacked rather than the migrants thesmselves. Migrants should be defended from capitalist divide and conquer rhetoric which gets proles to blame each other and not the capitalist imperialist wage labor system. Because of currency hegemony the dollar has more purchasing power than south american currencies. A person making minimum wage won't have much purchasing power in the US, but they'll have more purchasing power in south and central america. so immigrants come here, work shitty jobs, and send the money home where it has way more purchasing power. if it weren't for imperialism, of which currency hegemony is a prominent feature, there would be no incentive to do this. nobody actually likes sneaking into the country and working a shitty job. but if that's how they stay away from the CIA-backed cartels and dictators, then they'll do it, especially if it makes them more money than they can at home. Make sense?
>>2313167Maybe it shouldn't have a literal "evade ban" option right on the main fucking page
Last time TOR was disabled for a week the whole site improved dramatically
>>2313147Sure because it the easiest way to to break anonymity. It would confirm this site as a honeypot at least.
>>2313168reddit records your every post and is easily traced to individual posters just like 4chan. But I bet you knew that.
>>2313179Yes, it's only tor nodes who post shit.. oh wait is that non-tor anon posting Nick ass?>>2313180
See? There's nothing to stop normal posters from posting worthless content either.
Seriously though mods could just stop image posting from TOR nodes to stop potential gore posting if they were actually worried about it. That's normally the excuse they use.
>>2313223Let me guess
You're scaring away the centrismirinos
>>2313224I have seen them say that Universal Healthcare is a commie plot to undermine the USA
I wish it was a joke, but they actually believe shit like that
>>2313229Unfortunately leftist christians are by and large permacucked, as opposed to rightoid christians who are bloodthirsty psychopaths
Satan is the way
>>2313243Flags are reactionary
Nations are reactionary
You are reactionary
>>2313239trvthnvke
>>2313237>socialist priestLmao
>>2313256“Historically, capitalism had failed to see the truth in collective enterprise and Marxism failed to see the truth in individual enterprise. Nineteenth-century capitalism failed to see that life is social and Marxism failed and still fails to see that life is individual and personal.”
Maybe a national socialist
>>2313315No it's not that people are going to support ice it is that they will just sit on the sidelines
It is the same as because people are not motivated to vote Democrat it didn't mean they are going to support trump. The people will just look away from this
>>2313317strasser didn't understand that nationalism (in the sense of national self determination and liberation from colonialism) is the basis of internationalism because he could not think dialectically (and also was a nazi retard)
>>2313319Socialism In One Country was a policy resulting from the failure of the Western European revolutions, not an end goal in and of itself
>>2313333>>2313343>HAHA, NO U!at a post not even about (You)? that's a new one
feel free to stop seething anytime
>>2313356FMA went so hard
[Spoiler]03 > brotherhood[/Spoiler]
>>2313369sort of, he was just begging people for sex as far as I know
>>2313370both shows are still kino, I highly recommend checking out 03 and its movie CoC another time in the future
>>2313379everything always happens
i love the real movement
embrace the plasm
NEHcels are reactoids
>>2313423>moscow*washington, that's what it's called
i need to stop drinking
>>2313438that means your multipolar egg shell is cracking, you're almost turning into a beautiful ML butterfly
sent you discord link ;)
The US Army expects 3,600 casualties per day in WWIII for US Army ALONE
A MILITARY DRAFT IS IMMINENT!!!
>“The Individual Ready Reserve, which stood at 700,000 in 1973 and 450,000 in 1994, now stands at 76,000. These numbers cannot fill the existing gaps in the active force, let alone any casualty replacement or expansion during a large-scale combat operation. The implication is that the 1970s concept of an all-volunteer force has outlived its shelf life and does not align with the current operating environment.”https://press.armywarcollege.edu/parameters/vol53/iss3/1/
>The Russia-Ukraine War is exposing significant vulnerabilities in the Army’s strategic personnel depth and ability to withstand and replace casualties. Army theater medical planners may anticipate a sustained rate of roughly 3,600 casualties per day, ranging from those killed in action to those wounded in action or suffering disease or other non-battle injuries. With a 25 percent predicted replacement rate, the personnel system will require 800 new personnel each day. For context, the United States sustained about 50,000 casualties in two decades of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. In large-scale combat operations, the United States could experience that same number of casualties in two weeks.
>Large-scale combat operations troop requirements may well require a reconceptualization of the 1970s and 1980s volunteer force and a move toward partial conscription.Pic related: An Army advertisement that contains no uyghurs or women and instead focuses solely on recruiting White men.
>>2313431They just flattened half of southern Lebanon bro maybe you missed that
>>2313437Oh for sure two more weeks before the US collapses. I'm sure the country without an airforce will wreck them as soon as they clash.
>>2313456A military draft is never coming.
One volunteer is worth two conscripts, and America has plenty of volunteers.
Russia doesnt even use conscription in Ukraine
>>2313485Lol no, they'll just conscript you as your biological sex (compared to the progressive democratic variant of being conscripted as your preferred pronouns)
say you're a quaker or something
>>2313413Literally this. Their number of agents are already in 50-50, if they do a black panther that number grows to 80-20
>>2313440Sorel
>>2313475it's not if but when, zios want iran destroyed and they will get their attempt
whether or not it succeeds is another thing entirely
>>2313485The anti-trans surge was EXPLICTLY to stop this, lol
Chuds got played, again. JKR conspired with a bunch of people to send you all to war to die for white upper class women and well-connected men.
>>2313569he lost all his weight which is gay and reactionary
he should have kept gaining to ensure the collapse of capitalism
>>2313569he lost it all,
>>2313571hes a gainer so I imagine hes going to regain it
>>2313581That guy impossible1 is a Jewish Zionist who despises women. His entire post history for years is insulting women. To him the Jews are women
I have browsed there and seen him
>>2313596>Always bet on nothing ever happeningOhh please, gimme a break
>>2313598>sorry chud the sizzlers win in the endYes
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