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>>2324471Grand Rabbi of Brazil Edition
Israel attacked Iran in an aggressive act of war. The US government supported the strikes, providing intelligence and planning with Netanyahu. Donald Trump cynically used nuclear negotiations with Tehran as cover, as he oversaw the joint US-Israeli operation.
fizzle or sizzle the floor is yours gentlepersons
Hekmatist Communist Party in Iran (one of the most active inside the country) on the war [Translated]
>The freedom-loving people of Iran are in a daily struggle with the Islamic Republic for its revolutionary overthrow, the end of poverty, deprivation, tyranny, and the provision of human life. Israel’s attack on Iran and the start of war will greatly harm their freedom-loving movement in its struggle with the Islamic Republic.
>this war, in addition to imposing fear and the risk of misery on the people of Iran, will open the hands of the Islamic Republic to push back against their protests and strikes.
>To save themselves from the misfortune of the Islamic Republic, the Iranian people do not need the butchers of Gaza, one of the most criminal governments in human history, a government that has been killing the deprived people of Palestine for 70 years and is today the main cause of insecurity in the region.
>On the one hand, the Islamic Republic is trying, in the name of "self-defense" and "territorial integrity of Iran", with nationalist and "patriotic" propaganda, not only to mobilize Iranian nationalists at home and abroad around itself, but at the same time, by justifying poverty, deprivation, high prices, lack of rights, militaristic atmosphere and its crimes against the Iranian people, to use these conditions to reduce and eliminate the risk of mass protests, protests of the working class, and to increase the balance between itself and the people in favor of its survival and to impose despair on society.
>The working class of Iran are practically placed in more unfavorable, more dangerous and more uncertain conditions compared to the Islamic Republic due to Israel's criminal actions.
>On the other hand, with Israel's attack on Iran and the simultaneous sacrifice of innocent people in Tehran and…, and in a situation where fear and anxiety have gripped the entire country of Iran, a part of the pro-Israel opposition of the Islamic Republic, with joy and cheers, repeat Netanyahu's message in the name of "saving" the Iranian people and the best opportunity to "liberate Iran", "take back Iran" or "revolution" and "overthrow the Islamic Republic", and promise "Iran's freedom" at the price of turning Tehran into Beirut. Forces that have a dark record of supporting every reactionary and anti-people policy and action of global or regional reaction, from military attack to Syrianization of Iran, in the name of opposition to the Islamic Republic. Forces that are of the type of Islamic reaction and Israeli fascism and have historically stood against any kind of human transformation and are a direct enemy of the freedom, security and welfare of the Iranian people.
Israel to ‘escalate Iran attacks’ as Trump looks away
Menachem Klein, professor emeritus at Israel’s Bar Ilan University, says he expects Israel to escalate its attacks on Iran, which he believes are intended to topple “the Iranian regime” rather than disrupt its uranium enrichment programme.
“I cannot see any other reason that leads Israel to attack so many different targets that are unrelated to the nuclear project,” Klein told Al Jazeera.
He said the US administration would leave Israel “no choice” but to halt its attacks if it decided to put pressure on its ally, but the fact that it was not doing so spoke volumes about the Trump administration’s role in the conflict.
“I doubt if President Trump knows what he is speaking about, fully acknowledges what he is speaking about,” Klein said.
The Israeli public has so far been supportive of the strikes on Iran, but this consensus depends on the government’s ability to prevent an increase in civilian casualties. “If the civil society [suffers] much more, then everything can change,” Klein added.
>>2326826The good kind of autism
>>2326824This is way better than the Tudeh statement
>>2326838>Now might be a good time for Iranian communists to<do revolutionnah
>seek class collaboration during imperialist warYES YES YES
>>2326824>>On the one hand, the Islamic Republic is trying, in the name of "self-defense" and "territorial integrity of Iran", with nationalist and "patriotic" propaganda, not only to mobilize Iranian nationalists at home and abroad around itself, but at the same time, by justifying poverty, deprivation, high prices, lack of rights, militaristic atmosphere and its crimes against the Iranian people, to use these conditions to reduce and eliminate the risk of mass protests, protests of the working class, and to increase the balance between itself and the people in favor of its survival and to impose despair on society.and what else can you absolutely do when your state is at risk of succumbing to the dominion of the western slave owners?
what a dead-ass hollow-empty useless statement.
>On the other hand, with Israel's attack on Iran and the simultaneous sacrifice of innocent people in Tehran and…, and in a situation where fear and anxiety have gripped the entire country of Iran, a part of the pro-Israel opposition of the Islamic Republic, with joy and cheers, repeat Netanyahu's message in the name of "saving" the Iranian people and the best opportunity to "liberate Iran", "take back Iran" or "revolution" and "overthrow the Islamic Republic", and promise "Iran's freedom" at the price of turning Tehran into Beirut. Forces that have a dark record of supporting every reactionary and anti-people policy and action of global or regional reaction, from military attack to Syrianization of Iran, in the name of opposition to the Islamic Republic. Forces that are of the type of Islamic reaction and Israeli fascism and have historically stood against any kind of human transformation and are a direct enemy of the freedom, security and welfare of the Iranian people.oh, but you want to be angry at nationalistic elements.
now, now, you can't have none of them two. pick one.
>>2326873>semi-feudal russia in 1914 was imperialistIt was in a precapitalist sense and was aligned with several leading imperialist powers of its day who also participated in the war. Iran is neither of those things.
>>2326874Iran doesn't export capital to any meaningful degree. Its entire economy is dependent on oil exports, something that definitively marks it as not imperialist under Lenin's understanding.
>>2326871by not picking sides you already picked one. it's like seeing a cop bating the crap out of an defenseless, weaker person, and just staring at that.
I fucking hate pebble-threwer but he's right on this one.
>>2326879Iranians dont look brown to me
I look at myself and I see an unambiguously brown man
Im not sure about Iranians, they look kinda cracka to me
>>2326871Yes, but communists can and should and must see wars pragmatically.
No true communist supported WW1, for instance. The Entente and the Central Powers fought each other purely for colonial-grabbing and revanchist reasons. It would be stupid to say for the Russo-Ukrainian War that the Russian government does not have imperialist ambitions for Ukraine, but Dombass and Crimea are VICTIMS of Ukro-Ultranationalist repression and have the RIGHT to defend themselves. Ukraine is an increasingly ulranationalist state. Should Russia be fully supported, no, but it should be critically supported because it is in the best interests of the working movement. In Irans case, they are the victims of Zionist expansionist repression and have the right to defend themselves. A defensive war against a colonial enemy is always a good thing as Lenin himself pointed out.
>>2326880>by not picking sides you already picked oneWhich side did the Bolsheviks and Spartacists pick in WW1?
>I fucking hate pebble-threwer but he's right on this one.In what way is that comic applicable to Iranians? They don't pay taxes that go to Israel's defense.
>>2326883>TIL UAE, Saudi Arabia and Qatar are not imperialistThey aren't, they're comprador regimes in service of US imperialism.
>>2326891>In what way is that comic applicable to Iranians? They don't pay taxes that go to Israel's defensethey will end up paying taxes to the US.
>Which side did the Bolsheviks and Spartacists pick in WW1?completely incomparable material conditions. there's only one superimperial power. and that must be overthrown first.
>>2326892>>2326893it was a joke ,take it easy. sorry for disturbing your burger label of
BROWN>>2326895always was since Cyrus
>>2326898trvke >>2326909yep. never dare say to the American that a moroccan does not really see himself as part of a greater label of
BROWN where he is lumped together with Indians, Arabs and Iranians.
The ameritard has divided the world into White, Latinx (!), Brown, Black and Asian. That is how it must be !
>>2326923that's the correct way to present oneself
Irishman > white man all day every day
>>2326927Persians are different from Arabs
There is no one general 'Middle Eastern' ethnicity
>>2326927>>2326921>>2326918this is what reading Ibram X Kendi does to the human brain
tssk tssk tssk
>>2326944>word salad Thanks for conceding
>>2326926>>2326946It's good then that we can point to Iran and Saudi Arabia's support of death squads and coups while both being major trade partners with china
>>2326963If Iran regime was bold they wouldn't have supported the US-backed regime in Iraq and killed those who protest it like the Americans before them
I <3 the present state of things
>>2326965they never got airspace control of Syria which was a poorer, smaller country, they aren't getting air control of Iran airspace.
don't fall for mossad's opsec propaganda.
>>2326977Yes because unlike Tudeh they aren't retarded enough to collaborate with Islamists and doom themselves
No wonder Hekmatists are active in Iran while the Tudeh like the PFLP only exists in memories of western lefties
>>2326979and I don't want your anti-semitic replies either
some of the biggest anti-zionists I know are Ashkenazi
>>2326988You are so aware of it that you instantly replied upon being called out.
Reactionary dog
>>2326997They live in the clouds actually.
That's their only productive safe space
>>2326986>MLName them.
Post by post. go ahead.
>>2327016they aren't also going on every tread, most of them with no relation and say shit like
>le anarchism is defending nazism/sionismor whatever, there is just this nig that does this fly shit seething about ML's on the site.
>>2326998no, the israel media is carrying out this, to claim their new bombed targets are air strikes, when in fact they are not, and they are their sabotage-sleeping cells carrying out drone and car bomb attacks.
see second picture and read it very carefully. and tell me how the fuck these jets arrived to eastern Iran. IMPOSSIBLE.
Again, they don't have any air superiority and they are running an opsec propaganda.
>>2326955>word saladWhat was nonsensical or incoherent about what I said?
>>2326926Anon Iran is under severe sanctions and doesn't even have access to global markets. How tf can they be exporting capital? What Iranian companies have a strong presence outside of the country?
No race is inherently reactionary. Lumpens are just lumpens.
>>2327032I don't agree with nazi racial theory.
>>2327030South African whites have been driven into ruin? When? I missed that! I spent the last 7 years in Cape Town, surely I would have noticed. They are richer than ever.
>germans and JapaneseTheir enemies were UK(plus all its dominions and colonies), France, USA (the most overpowered state to exist) and the mighty USSR. Israel is fully backed by USA and Western Europe, and has no true enemy except Iran. Big countries who are not outright Israeli allies are not ennemies either (China, Russia, India, Brazil etc)
It is not the same at all.
>>2327033>No race is inherently reactionary.true, but there is one thing that sets Jews from other races.
They still practice Ethnic Religion relations, with strong separations between the Us and the Others, the goys, and its something they never secularised either so you get situations like israel and their massive support between jews worldwide and on israel and you see that majority of the ones that don't support are either an expecific group ot Orthodoxy or secular jews far removed from judaism ideological teachings influencing them.
>>2327044Not be a smartass but even a child understands we are well past the possibility of diplomacy here lol
And Iran must stop announcing how many missiles they gonna drop. Just fucking do it, let there be an element of surprise.
>>2327007Tudeh are exactly like the Iraqi Communist Party both are unpopular socdem Soviet proxies that doomed the labor movement in their respective countries yet are held as heroes by western MLs.
>their members work with neolib neocons like Bernard Henri-Levy etcThat's not true. There are two lines (two distinct parties at this point) that split from the worker-communist party of Iran, the revolutionary line that's exactly as you described made up of like 100 members in Canada and London. The other is the Hekmatist line which actually has grassroots organization inside of Iran and a popular base. The Hekmatist line is led by the wife of Mansoor Hekmat (the co-founder of the Iranian Communist Party) and other members from the original vanguard.
>>2327010see
>>2326984 >>2327050You are trying to hard
That us vs them is practised by pretty much everyone unfortunately. These points you make can easily be found among Muslims too. Jews just happen to have masterfully tied the big bully America with them. They played the lobby game better than anyone, that’s all.
>>2327055Manhood Hekmats wife is based because she says ‘ Islamophobia' is "an invented concept trying to silence the world to criticize Islam or Islamic movement“
Finally a communist willing to oppose religious concessions in the Muslim world
>>2327038>South African whites have been driven into ruin? When?they are no longer apartheid princelings in general like before, just because the rich get richer this does not change that their total domination was wrecked.
>Germans and Japanese to Iran and Israeltrue that they had it harder and israel have it easy, yet writing this is an instant win when the US is deteriorating rapidly and can't fully support their puppet like they used to, iran may be rased like vietnam but like vietnam it can devastate israel.
>>2327065‘Even Israel’?
Who else but Israel lol
>>2327068**Hekmat supported the "return to Marx", and theorized that the working class is to rely only on itself – arguing that it had been the only class to impose beneficial changes in the 20th century. He opposed Stalinism and never accepted that either the Soviet Union or the People's Republic of China were socialist countries. He famously said "The basis of Socialism is the human being". Hekmat was also a practicing vegetarian and towards the end of his life became vegan.
Hekmat believed in free, legalised abortions but encouraged criticism of the strong feminist movements of his time whom he criticized as having a lack of compassion on this matter. He believed all should be done to create a world in which women are supported socially, economically, culturally and politically to keep their children, to reduce the need for abortions.**
>Le New Type of Marxism>denounce Stalin>fade into irrelevanceA tale as old as time
>>2327068>>2327077He was a retard insofar as having utopian ideals and activism tendencies tainting his works yet his party has more independent organization than any ML party in Iran and Iraq.
That's just a fact. You can criticize Hekmatists theoretically (and I do) but you can't say they aren't doing work. Still praxis can't march before theory but I have yet to see them deviating from the labor struggle in practice.
>>2327082I don’t claim to be supporting or criticising anyone here
I learned of the existence of HEKMAT literally 10 minutes ago and I read his Wikipedia
I won’t pull a Destiny on start debating based on 2 Wikipedia paragraphs lol
>>2327077>>denounce Stalin>>fade into irrelevanceLMAO MLs don't exist in Iran while in Iraq they are busy with elections.
more like
<denounce Marxism for Stalinism<USSR falls<turn from a soviet to american proxy<fade into irrelevancea tale as old as time
>>2327086Japan is less reactionary than the whole MENA region
Seethe and cope moron
>>2327094Yazidis are fine but we'd have a problem if they got their own state and then enforced religiously-based apartheid because they were oppressed by the arabs n shiet instead of reforming to be more universalist
>>2327100the point went so far over your head it escaped the orbit
>>2327110The Israelis are very lucky XI doesn’t get triggered easily.
A few Dongfeng and that tumor called Israel would have been irradiated forever.
>>2327107>The kind of Marxism Hekmat promoted is generally disconnected from reality. You believe in socialism in one country :/
>The Middle Eastern left are a sad embarrassment.You're literally an western ML
>>2327091Iran will develop a nuke soon
Iran has delivered a nuke to ansrallah
Iran is the first state in the world to share a nuke before having it
A true mutualist , that ayatollah
>>2327116>socialism in one country USSR existed and converted and aided nations than every other option, show me another socialist nation that brought more revolutions than them, ill wait, as just this fact puts them at most effective tactic for a global revolution.
>You're literally an western MLthe only effective leftist trend on the world.
>>2327123>Where has the left been the most successful? Latin Americalol
lmao
>The MENA left is double retardedYeah every retarded leftist movement in MENA is ML or Maoist. You can thank your daddies and their retarded theories for that.
We are not leftists, we are communists, and we will lead the workers and crush you MLs in the process.
t. MENAcom
>>2327133>USSR existed and converted and aided nations than every other option, show me another socialist nation that brought more revolutions than them, ill wait, as just this fact puts them at most effective tactic for a global revolution.So the USSR did liberalism but good also literally doomed MENA with its united fronts. What does that have to do with socialism?
>the only effective leftist trend on the world.Then stop criticizing your ML brothers in MENA lmao
MLs are so mindbroken by their state captialist regimes becoming opeingly neoliberal that they pretend red in the flag means socialism irrespective of everything else
>>2326918This is just the average balkan man wtf do you mean brown, you literally have an actual brown country in the south of the border???
Do Americans really do the Ben Franklin "if you're not anglo you're african" thing unironically
>>2327195Xi is on that sigma grind
Settler or not, hustle on Xibros
>>2327187strawman
>>2327198an even more worthless post
>>2327155>So the USSR did liberalism but good>liberals abolish the bourgeous as a class and collectivise land and property.guess fukuyama is correct, liberalism is revolutionary.
>also literally doomed MENA with its united frontsdimitrov and his effects have been a disaster for mankind i agree.
>bunch of buzzwords.MLs are, despite your seething hatred, the most popular amongst the masses, the most organized and the most effective at changing the status quo of the global system compared to every other ideology for communism, don't like it, your problem, then do better, but i know whatever ilk you are you won't, 30 years since the fall of the USSR yet no substantial population of the world ever adopted the supposed revolutionary methods for a revolution from Non ML's.
now go bite the curb timmy.
>>2327210i'll buy you a plane ticket to new york if you promise to create some
t. adventurist pro
>>2327187and you know what's better?
those are the same people that'll see a video of a modern-slave worker immigrant collecting berries for the average westerner, where the immigrant states the misery sallary the immigrant gets, and say
>This is what makes our country so great>god bless this hardworking people>hardest working people!😢>I truly appreciate your hard work>I'll stop complaining on how my berries look at the supermarkerliterally like
YOU ARE SUCH A GOOD SLAVE >>2327169>>2327174So it is a liberal shithole like any other.
Thanks for conceding
>>2327229>your social mediadon't use that because it's just porky spying on me
>your fake accounts.if my accounts that I don't have are fake how would screenshotting them prove anything? make sense, schizo
>>2327219>Israeli prolesYou mean Palestinians?
There's like 500 anti-zionist israelis, I hope they can either get out fast or they can help to destroy their colony
>>2327234>>2327234STFU you couple of fed radlibs.
you don't care about changing things. you don't care at all. you are here to troll and spatz, go suck a dick and KYS. NOW.
>>2327219>slaughter of proletarians, Israel: 😁Based Based Based Based Based
>ML logic, everyone.Rent Free as Stalin did.
> but as soon as it's a genetically evil nation*ideological, genetically is against lysenko gang, bourgeus scum.
>they start cheering for the blood God.Khorne is red not because the blood but his political leanings, learn the world lore porky.
>>2327241the worst part is, see this justification:
>>2327234>if my accounts that I don't have are fake how would screenshotting them prove anything? make sense, schizolike, can't he just post form his account "hey leftypol" to prove it's him.
he doesn't care about zionistrael. literally they don't.
and this?
>>2327235 projecting? have you not everyone seen people trashing israel online from fake accounts by the thousands? why would anyone care here?
literally iron felx plans to do attacks all over the place and no one cares. ffs, these people don't care.
they deserve a ban.
>>2327244There's literally no difference
>Letting some stranger into your home>Giving them all your info>They now know exactly where you live what your phone number is and your full name and date of birth.Now tell me again how that isn't spying!
>>2327231>heh you conceding.>liberal regimes does have illibieral economic policies but have some attractions to investments.no state is like that my fellow smug retard.
still did not answer any of the points, guess being smug for not following a religious reading of marxism is far easier than maintaining a country and it's contradictions after all.
Israelis shocked by number of missile hits despite defence systems
Meron Rapoport, editor of Israeli news site The Local Call, said the Israeli public was taken aback by the number of Iranian missiles that breached the country’s advanced defence systems.
“Although the military is trying to portray this as expected, Israelis are quite surprised that so many missiles did hit targets in Israel and that the damage is so huge,” Rapoport told Al Jazeera.
He added that the strikes also succeeded in hitting some strategic targets and that some incidents have likely not been disclosed to the public.
“We don’t know about everything because the censorship is quite hard – and if we do know it, we’re not allowed to say it,” he said.
Rapoport added that he sees a deal on Iran’s nuclear programme as the only possible way out of the conflict.
“Iran will not surrender, a regime change will not happen in the near future, and Israel, of course, will not surrender – so I don’t see any other way out other than a deal between Iran and the US,” he said.
>>2327280>He was le israel fanthe same guy that in the 50's was attacking them for ruthless cosmopolitanism and got acused of antisemitism by israel with the history of doctor's plot ?.
boy why anti-ML's are so quick to distort history for their own ends.
>>2327298you are appealing to moral highgrounds here.
yes? we know.
now, don't deflect.
POST IT >>2327303but the Israeli media did not and population did not LMAO.
Doctors plot was used to undermine socialist and support for the USSR in Israel.
>>2327317The AMERICAN Jews blamed Stalin. Not Israeli Jews
>b-but Israel was a US appendage so they'd have the same opinions!Isreal only became a US appendage in 1967.
>>2327294The people of the left-left-com (and it's not any kind of real tradition as whatever Borbiba for example was [and I neither know or care to know his program either], he wasn't that) tendency (waiter-waiter persuasion) would be precious if they didn't insist on this one absurdly trivial point with quite such repetitiveness.
People generally prefer to not be killed.
It's nothing more than an empty whine.
>>2327172People have a really simplistic understanding about the relationship between major powers and their clients. It's not simply a question of the former saying jump and the latter asking how high. Sure, if the US really wanted it could harshly discipline Ukraine, Israel, South Korea, or any of their other clients to get them to do whatever Washington asked, but ultimately the foundation of these alliances is convergent interests between the respective ruling classes of these countries. If the US were to push things too far with these countries, they might start to reconsider their alliance, and this is how a comprador bourgeoisie becomes a national bourgeoisie. As such, when the interests of a comprador state and the imperialist diverge as they occasionally due, its often in the best interest of the imperialist to allow them to do so rather than damage the relationship in the long term by forcing them back in line. In this case I think we see such a divergence. Israel for an array of reasons relating to its settler project and Bibi's personal political interests wants a decisive confrontation with Iran immediately. The Americans appear to be less interested in this, likely due to the fact that it would tie down more of their already stretched resources and be politically risky. Assuming this isn't just a 4D chess move leading to a "reluctant" American entry into the war (in the sense of American assets being used offensively), then it looks like there is a genuine divergence here, though of course this does not negate the predominant reality of the US-Israel hegemon-client relationship.
>>2327351lmao.
WHERE.
I bet you won't respond, or deflect.
WHERE >>2327358HAHAHA DEFLEEEEEEEECT
HAHAHAHA to your knowledge, Marx was well, alive and edited with the Principles of Communism.
>>2327369iran has crossed every red line.
nuke beijing NOW
>>2327354meds
>>2327356>socdem comes out as fascist many such cases
>>2327371Le Che quote
what next? A Gandhi quote? An Mandela quote?
and D'Annunzio was revolutionary btw
>>2327399plenty of people is not the problem
Khrushchev was the leader of the USSR
It's like Xi showing up to the UN and making such a speech
@sandinista-flag, why the fuck can't Lula make such a speech at the UN? Are you Brazilians all Mossad by any chance?
>>2327383there are videos of them placing their military under hospitals.
they are not shy about it.
literally they built AA defense systems in and around the city, the ministry of defense is surrounded by civilian buildings.
>>2327405an unwritten rule of the Axis of Resistance is to maximise cuckoldry
but hey who am I to kink shame
>>2327432yes, which is why I understand when Sandinista retard calls everyone a rabbi and Moshe
He actually gets non-stop fucked by zios in his favela
>>2327420so-called self-proclaimed "israel" launched le decapitation strikes and killed 100 gorillion five-star galactic generalissimos of the IRGC, Iran proceeded to instantly appoint replacements and continue bombing Tel-Aviv instead of instantly collapsing and surrendering as foretold by the learned elders of /isg/
cucktin posters btfo o algo
>>2327440I mean that brazilians macaques, after indians are the most pro-zionism people of the world
Of course its government doesn't reflect it, the opposite happens in the US and Western Europe for example
>>2327434chums, everything in zionistland is military.
every fucking single zionists to get residency THEY MUST SERVE IN THE MILITARY FOR MONTHS, years, eveneverything in israel is a legitimate target.
>>2327452the thing is he is not impoverished
he is part of the Brazilian bourgeoisie
D'Annunzio was revolutionary btw
>>2327466he probably returned at some point. to save face from criticism. just yesterday I posted a media post from zionists asking for a public appearance of bibi:
WHERE IS HE they asked.
>>2327453Nah there's a stronger opposition to zionism among the people there
In Brazil is actually even taboo to midly support Palestine and not parrot dehumanizing racist takes on MENA people, social media proves it btw
>>2327467I dont hate Sandi
I like brazil
I just like to shitpost
I dont know why
I developed this little fun of saying 'favela, samba' in a racist way to annoy him
help
>>2327471>>2327472There was literally a poll proving it now few weeks ago that was posted in both siberia and latam
The only latam country that were against zionism were the socialist ones and Chile because of the palestinian diaspora
>>2327487i hate you both
>>2327494abrahamism is a blight. the jews must be freed from judaism. this is the synthesis.
>>2327405They're going to vote on leaving the NPT tomorrow, and possibly even closing the strait of Hormuz too.
You want to maintain the ability to escalate if you cannot achieve a decapitation strike.
Including using long range missiles to flatten American bases in the region if there is any indication Trump is going to join in on the action.
Reducing Tel Aviv to Dresden might be impressive. But it's a lot more pertinent they maintain the ability to destroy the Israeli electrical grid and water infrastructure (including desalination plants) - including keeping it disabled over the long term, as well as the means to strike places like Diego Garcia if a dozen B2s suddenly show up.
There's also growing rumors that if the United States or European states intervene directly by bombing Iran, other states might get involved (Pakistan, Iraq)
The European theater of WW2 had an entire section (Phoney War) where nothing seemed to be happening.
Just because they''re not going all-in now, doesn't mean it cannot escalate later on.
>>2327501motherfucker derailer, if there are soldiers in the basement of an hospital they can coordinate, operate and command from there.
>glowieprojecting much?
Iran’s air defenses were diminished in rounds of conflict, giving Israel greater aerial freedom.
Israel’s powerful strikes that targeted Iran’s nuclear infrastructure and killed senior military officials have been underpinned by its ability to traverse Iran’s skies without significant disruptions, according to current and former Israeli officials.
Israeli fighter jets have been able to repeatedly strike sensitive targets across Iran, including in the capital, Tehran, after destroying much of Iran’s air defenses. The dynamic has left Iran struggling to defend itself as Israel launches the biggest attack in its history against the Islamic Republic.
Still, Israel does not have complete freedom of operation in Iran, and Iranian officials have claimed to have shot down Israeli drones in recent days.
Some of Iran’s air defense systems remain intact, requiring Israeli pilots to navigate through carefully mapped aerial corridors, according to an Israeli defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive information. The Israeli military, the official said, relies on real-time intelligence to track possible threats to its aircraft as they enter and exit Iranian airspace.
Opening up Iran’s airspace was a gradual process. During two clashes with Iran in April and October of last year, Israeli security forces struck important air-defense systems. In the October attack, Israel hit four S-300 systems, according to Yoav Gallant, the Israeli defense minister at the time.
Since Friday, Israel has continued to target Iran’s air defenses, carving out a pathway for Israeli fighter jets to reach Tehran freely, according to two Israeli military officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss operational details. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Fox News in an interview on Sunday that Israel had worked to “peel off the layers of protection” of Iranian defenses.
Israeli aircraft, in turn, now have the ability to fly through much of Iranian airspace almost as easily as they can over Lebanon and Syria, according to Zohar Palti, a former senior official in Mossad, Israel’s foreign intelligence service.
“Let’s say I have a target that I missed or that I’m not happy with the result,” said Mr. Palti, now an international fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. “I can go back tomorrow and the day after tomorrow again, again, and again.”
Even Iranian officials have acknowledged shortcomings in their defenses.
In private text messages shared with The New York Times on Friday, some officials were angrily asking one another, “Where is our air defense?” and “How can Israel come and attack anything it wants, kill our top commanders, and we are incapable of stopping it?”
>>2327497STOOP WARNING THE ISRAELIS
KHAMENEI YOU FUCKIGN MORON, DID THEY WARN YOU BEFORE HITTING YOUR PHYSICISTS???!!!?!??!?!?!??!
Military chief says Israel will ‘intensify’ operations in Iran
Israeli army chief Eyal Zamir has issued a statement vowing to increase attacks on Iran, as part of a “historic and unprecedented operation aimed at delivering a significant blow to an existential threat”.
“We will continue to intensify our operations and, in doing so, strengthen our security for years to come,” Zamir said. “We knew there would be a price, and it underscores why we acted now, before it became too late.”
Iran’s armed forces tell Israelis not to stay or travel near ‘vital areas’
Iran’s armed forces told Israelis to leave the vicinity of “vital areas” for their safety, in a video statement broadcast by state TV around the time that Iran sent a new barrage of missiles.
“We have a data bank of vital and critical areas in occupied territories and call upon you not to let the brutal regime use you as human shields. Do not stay or travel near these critical areas,” an armed forces spokesperson said.
Iranian Health Ministry says 128 killed in Israeli attacks in two days
At least 128 people were killed by Israeli attacks across Iran on Friday and Saturday, Iran’s Health Ministry has been quoted by local media as saying.
The Etemaad Daily cited the ministry as saying that around 900 injured individuals were admitted to hospital.
At least 40 women, as well as several children, were reported among the victims.
>>2327543can you speak Portuguese?
If not, you are only seeing English-speaking Brazilians, who I will not be surprised to learn are a majority of USA cocksuckers
Try to hang out in Portuguese language Brazilian social media and then let me know
>Israeli attack on Iran 'could last weeks': reportUS officials quoted by CNN and Axios said that while Washington is not currently planning to participate in Israel's military strikes, it has not objected to the timeline and has offered quiet support. One Israeli official said the Trump administration had made no criticism of Israel's plans during private discussions. A senior Israeli official told The Wall Street Journal on Friday that Tel Aviv is planning a 14-day military campaign aimed at weakening Iran's leadership and military capacity, with the ultimate goal of forcing Tehran into a negotiated agreement. The official claimed that by "destroying Iran's command structure and reducing its arsenal", Israel hopes to bring an end to the escalation through diplomacy.
https://www.newarab.com/news/israeli-attack-iran-could-last-weeks-report
>Iranian strikes expose lack of shelters for Palestinian citizens of Israel, residents sayIn the wake of these attacks, Israelis have largely banded together in several parts of the country. But in the nearby settlement of Mitzpe Aviv, Israelis appeared to have welcomed the missile strike on Tamra. "On the village, on the village," an Israeli settler could be heard saying in a video documenting the strike, whilst women sang the anti-Arab song "May your village burn."
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iran-strikes-expose-lack-shelters-palestinian-citizens-israel NEW THREAD
>>2327576NEW THREAD
>>2327576>>2327570I literally just translated portuguese comments you fuck
Not even americans laugh at palestinian suffering
>>2327578You're gonna get another Fell For It Again Award when Trump "surprise" strikes Iran and forces America into the war revealing it was all a ruse.
How have burgers not learned by now?
>>2327591I am not white moron
I just know outside of white ppl nobody lumps so many people under the label 'brown'
NEW THREAD
>>2327576 NEW THREAD
>>2327576>>2327624nta, but what are you smoking?
it's not a proportionate retaliation.
israel is attacking nuclear infra, killing nuclear scientists, and eliminating high-ranking iranians…AND doing a bombing campaign.
how is a bombing campaign against vague targets a proportionate response?
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