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What's happening now
• Fresh blasts: Israel detected more missiles launched from Iran on Sunday evening, with an explosion seen in the coastal city of Haifa, after residential areas of Tehran were hit with multiple strikes. Earlier on Sunday, for the first time, Iran launched a daytime barrage against Israel, but there have been no reports of significant damage.

• Trump rejects assassination plan: A US official told CNN the US president rejected a plan by the Israelis to kill Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. However, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his spokesperson have denied the reports of such a plan, calling them “false” and “fake.”

• Israeli toll mounts: At least 14 are confirmed dead in Israel in the hostilities. Visiting the scene of a strike that killed 4 people, Israel’s PM Netanyahu said “think what would happen if Iran had atomic weapons.” A stated goal of the Israeli operation is to stop Iran developing a nuclear bomb.

• Iranians flee: Some Tehran residents have been escaping north to safer rural areas while others have been stockpiling essentials. The metro system is open around the clock so people can shelter. Scores are reported killed but no official figure has been given.

• No end in sight: Israel’s operation against Iran is expected to take “weeks, not days” and is moving forward with implicit US approval, according to White House and Israeli officials. US President Trump said his country “had nothing to do with” the Israeli attacks but later acknowledged that US involvement in the conflict is a possibility.

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-15-25
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>>2328409
Kill yourself Zionist

>>2328408
they also arrested a member of the israeli communist youth
they're repressing the only anti-genocide coalition left

>>2328405
>LOOK OTHER LIBERAL SHITHOLES ALLIED WITH NAZIS
I agree tho


>>2328407
It would be extremely based if Iran liberated Iraq from the yankee yoke.

>>2328411
Sorry if workers are going to be slaughtred it is much better for them to die in revolution than drone strike that will be followed up by a truce between their leaders

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>>2328395
uncensored image

>>2328416
kill yourself

>>2328414
see >>2328416
orginaly

>>2328416
I know seeing tel Aviv being smashed makes you feel bad pal.

>>2328421
lol bro you're so mad

>>2328416
Isreal has no workers though does it

>>2328422
>posted from bunker in tel aviv

>>2328352
Yes and? If tomorrow the US military started bombing "imperialist" Burundi, Bhutan and Paraguay are you going to to argue we should remain silent as well, or cheer on the collapse of these states in favor of some vague "regime change", in complete absence of a socialist or militant trade unionist mass movement?
I'm not saying the Iranian working class shouldn't push for concessions. But vague calls for "regime change" is lib nonsense. Only when the bourgeois state refuses to accept any more concessions (see German Revolution) is there reason pursue violent insurrection by a socialist mass movement. I wouldn't argue any different in case of Ukraine/Russia or other places.

There's also the question of war aims. What is the goal of the zionist regime? Is it integration of Iran as part of Israel, with all Iranians becoming equal Israeli citizens? No. Same goes for Gaza btw.
It's a brutal genocidal settler-colonial regime. And this changes the context and what are to be the desired outcomes in this war.
If Israel was a non-racist, multi-ethnic, mildly "socialist" or even merely "northern European" style socdem state, not hell bent on exterminating or expelling an entire people, I'd be a lot more comfortable with openly condemning the Iranian side.
But that's not the case. The victory of Israel in this case will not mean a more unified, prosperous middle east. It will mean the (now) unopposed genocide of over a million people in Gaza, and the destruction the Iranian state, which might descend into a Syria level civil war.

>>2328418
Would.

>>2328413
>buying time to move factories east = alliance with shitler
remind me who drove shitler to suicide again?

technically the Israeli state can now say any protest is "Iranian backed" because Iran told people to rise up against the regime

>>2328423
settleroids are not workers

>>2328325
>>2328349
I remember last year Tudeh talking about how this deep infiltration by Israel in Iran is due in large part to corruption within many Iranian institutions and hardliners alienating parts of it's population with lack of concessions on conservative social policies

>>2328413
the "non-liberal" epic marxpacito leftists were too busy writing articles about how ᴉuᴉlossnW and hitler were the real authentic revolutionaries while the liberal soviets built a war machine to destroy the nazis

>>2328425
Are you going to respond to >>2328187
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>>2328423
her
>>2328418
and a handful others

>>2328432
I already did. Why don't YOU reply to what I've written?

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>>2328427
>proceeds to have it's lines collapse and thousands of soldiers captured
stop acting like it was some great strategy when moscow was barely saved in the last moment

>>2328412
of course.

>>2328405
And how many of those pacts included plans for dividing neighboring countries?

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>7 seats
thats more than I was expecting to be honest

>>2328418
I think they should all use their dual visas and come here and join a socialist party. When Israel gets razed to dust we don’t want comrades to experience the hellfire.

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>>2328401
Agent is almost 6:30 shouldn't you be heading home? I hope you're getting overtime.

>>2328446
>he doesn't know england let hitler have czechoslovakia
>he doesn't know that the USSR spent the 30s trying to make an anti-fascist alliance with england and france only to be rejected
>he thinks stalin should have let hitler have all of poland

>>2328438
What did you write? You said Iranians are too subhuman to organize which is proven wrong by the post you're replying >>2328352 then wrote a liberal word salad that no one is reading

congrats you lost to an inanimate comment while conceding on your eariler claim of Iran not being imperialist (it is imperialist but if they're not going rape workers someone else will!111111)

>>2328441
I didn't say it was a great strategy I suggested it was dishonest to frame it as an alliance and not buying time

>>2328416
Muh hecking workers, they are amorphous pure boys that have no ideological differences or influences, they have no hecking nation because marx said so, please ignore how material reality shapes ideas that shape the ideal of the people, they will totally just stop following the nation that feeds and protect them bro bro bro.

>>2328463
i disagree with that other anon but it is incorrect to say the nation feeds and protects the workers. it's the other way around.

>>2328446
Monique pact, next question liberal ?.

>>2328430
I'm willing to acknowledge the possibility. That's basically the play that the US et al have been employing everywhere.
>impose sanctions
<sanctions create hardship
>hardship creates discontents
<discontents demand reform
>reforms are impossible or denied
<alphabet agencies take advantage of the tensions by funding reformists and arming reactionaries
>fault lines form from new political dynamics
<western states exploit fault lines by applying economic, social, and military pressure
>repeat process until regime changes or state collapses

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>>2328470
>monique
is that how frenchmen spell munich?

>>2328469
it's both the workers feeding and protecting as well being protected and feeded, if one or the other don't exist the nation won't exist.
i simplified for retard consumption.

>>2328405
The point is that it defeats the common narrative of "the USSR always hated fascism and Hitler from the beginning and Stalin was a good boy who dindu nothing." Nobody gives a shit that Churchill tried to appease Hitler, he's a liberal.

>>2328479
i guess, my BR Hue escaped my keyboard.

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>>2328483
>common narrative.
between actual communists, liberals believed Hitler and Stalin had a totalitarian atraction between one another, somehow.

>>2328493
and it being the common liberal narrative its the most common narrative about the history of the pact, repeated by liberal adjecent individuals.

>>2327679
You mean trotskyist L

>>2328435
a person can be a communist without being working class (Engels for the most obivous example) and a person can be a worker without being communist.
>>2328429
living in a settler-colony has nothing to do with whether you're a reserveless wage worker or not; worker is not an ethical category it's an economic category

>The Israeli military said in a statement early on Monday morning that it was striking missile sites in central Iran.



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