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>>2334975 >>2334883leakage
>>2334878can you discuss on what you think is gonna happen or are you just gonna complain
>>2335770Sure but the situation in the Middle East is even more hopeless than keeping the status quo for those living in it. Arabs will not be allowed self-determination until oil is no longer a core resource for US global hegemony. By then the window for economic development will have passed and they'll be swiftly abandoned by the West when their dinosaur juice is depleted. Arabs are aware of this, every family gathering I go to is nothing but relatives complaining about how cucked Arab leaders are and how they're selling out their own people to Zionism.
Literally the only way out of this hell is if the situation in America gets so bad that it can no longer project influence into the Middle East to break up/hijack popular uprisings. American proles have more control over this situation than the people living in those countries, and yet we do nothing while bemoaning Israel's antics in the middle east as if it's totally removed from our lives. It's so depressing.
>>2335850The key word is "if".
Israel has been aggressive towards Iran for years. This was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
>>2335856>The key word is "if".Well yeah, that's what a compromise means.
You do one thing I do another. That's what compromise means.
>>2335871MAD doctrine relies on the fact that you'll follow through
if you don't respond to nukes with nukes, then that policy loses credibility, you lose a big chunk of military prestige and respect
>>2335873>Israel has not been doing that "thing"Are you literate??? I said, Iran was
open to compromise. Do you know what that means? Is that sentence too complex for you? That means, the terms which they wanted in order to make concessions on their own were not met yet. Please learn to comprehend English.
>they cannot be trusted to do that "thing".Evidently Iran was willing to ignore that point when they suggested that they would be open to "a return to diplomacy" so long as Israel indicated so.
>>2335896This site can’t be reached
Check if there is a typo in www.thenewnewspaper.com.
If spelling is correct, try running windows network Diagnostics.
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nice try mossad, take the mask off
>>2335908get ready for Tel Aviv to be flattened.
This site can’t be reached
Check if there is a typo in www.fakewebsiteimadeup.com.
If spelling is correct, try running windows network Diagnostics.
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Try to make fool of me but you make yourself a fool (again)
>>2335920>DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAINwow that sounds impressive i think we have found our man.
Anon what say you to hacking the radio waves and obtaining the codes for the pads?
>>2335895sizzling-ish
US president nuke plane is in the air suddenly
israel is arresting anyone that records/posts content online of damages done, and seem to be on media blackout
iran blew up one of the mossad bases in israel with one of the new missiles this morning with no retaliation from Israel
Israel is locking down fully and not allowing civilians to leave
Iran warned a major attack incoming sometime soon
White house just called a LID likely because of the continuing escalation
>>2335907 (me)
Why all the cringe posting? Did Israel kill everyone in Iran that knows this is retarded?
>>2335931Iranian missile evades Israel’s Iron Dome defence systemIn the last hour there were two separate waves of missile attacks from Iran into Israel.
In fact, in the last sort of 15 minutes the Israeli Home Front Command has issued an all clear so people are now allowed to leave their shelters.
Something has got through.
Israel always says that its Iron Dome defence system is not able to intercept every missile that’s fired. It gets most of them.
Nevertheless the ones that do – as you see from there – are able to cause considerable damage if they hit a target.
It is early days to say exactly what and where has been hit. And there is also, remember, military censorship in Israel in wartime, and so it is not always possible to know exactly the significance of the location that might have been hit by those Iranian missiles if the Israelis consider it militarily sensitive.
For example, if it’s a military base or something like that then the media is not allowed to report what the area is that has been hit by a missile.
>>2335975Laura is going to try pressure for Tulsi to be removed with Tulsi decision to say Iran has no nukes and trump saying almost have saying he doesn't care what Tulsi says
Now Laura will slander Tulsi to get her removed watch
>>2335994>Cuckmenei's drones>Cuckler's WWI attritionsmh
I was meant to live through the '60s and '70s, not this shit.
>>2335965on october 7th israel's conscript army got bent over and fucked by a tiny excursionary force. it took them days to be caught, and the ones that went deep nearly made it to jordan. a few commando units could wreak havoc in israel and in response the idf and civilians would start shooting each other, and the polish/russian lightskins would ethnically cleanse the brown ass arab mizrahi.
every military wonk is getting into a dick measuring contest over useless stats without considering that israel is inherently unstable from its internal contradictions and vicious population.
>>2336053Its been a while since I've heard anybody say anything positive about him.
>>2336056Take care of yourself spurdo anon. This shits serious, but it ain't worth making yourself have a meltie over. Whatever happens, happens.
>>2336063>>2336064Thanks chuds, im really tired. Ill probably be on thursday since i got work tomorrow.
I just checked 8992 Khz
It appears there is a new call sign
TERTIARY STANDING BY FOR TRAFFIC
TERTIARY OUT
Now we have
>NEON GAS>TERTIARYI see no transmissions yet but there were pulses like yesterday.
Hope this helps
>>2336080he calls himself a marxist leninist
unless he changed his mind recently, like maupin recanted on marxism for his own ideology
>>2336083Bro I am so exhausted with this stupid way of talking. Bloom really has come off the rose here.
>amazing pole. It's got a rope and it's stainless steel. magnificent.Shut the hell up, christ. It's not cute or funny.
>>2336097Idk maybe went back. I hope nothing bad happens. Anyways good night. See u thrsday
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Stay comfy
Neon Gas out :)))
>>2336114fucking amazing
>>2336128meds
>>2336164deeply obsessed
>>2336163meds + finish working your job, paul
>>2335965There's no way Trump lands American soldiers on Iranian soil to fight for Israel, dingus.
Not going to happen. I can't think of a US president who would have done that.
>>2336195you ever tire of this image?
>>2336192a masterpiece…….
>>2336204who is getting "triggered" exactly?
>>2336205meds + 20 years in a re-edu camp
>>2336192These guys literally look like Americans
How do they justify calling themselves Middle Eastern with the right to the Levant
>>2336223It's not happening.
Trump has a Svengali effect.
Outsiders can see how he operates and wonder how the fuck leaders from the Iranians to the Kremlinoids can fall for those inane manipulations, yet fall they do.
>>2336228Honestly I really can't fathom how other countries see Zionists and the US MIC plotting publicly and in realtime for the overthrow of the Iranian government and they do…nothing.
Like geopolitically this is a disaster for everyone else in the region and also for other global powers. Simply marching their troops into Iran for a "joint military defense treaty" would stop any US intervention cold, and yet they just sit back and watch. What does condemning war accomplish if you just…let it happen anyway?
>>2336236most jews look exactly like europeans and americans imo
they don't look middle eastern at all
>>2336279USA wants blood. USA will be fishing for a military response to it's provocations, and then cry - just like Israel - about how Iran attacked first (after Tehran getting bombed).
Americans must go to the streets if there is any hope of stopping this
>>2336280A) honestly, nah. if the whole disarming thing was real a civil war would've happened by now lol but it's just empty talk. maybe they are removing some missiles in the south but other than that nothing much.
B) no thoughts on it tbh.
>>2336284I'm from a village in the south and I currently live in a city. both the village and the city got bombed. but it wasn't much.
my village is in the south but not too deep into the south close to the border so we only got like a building or two destroyed. other villages close to the border had a worse fate
>>2336301Oh fuck, it all makes sense now.
Trump is gonna off Khamenei and then raise his flags as a troll, isn't he?
>>2335992>All the sites in the west of the country where the entity can easily hit themGonna say that map isn't telling the entire truth
>But that's where the poopulation isUS sites in Montana
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/06/17/749981/iran-pounds-strategic-targets-telaviv-haifa-most-intense-wave-true-promiseIran pounds strategic targets in Tel Aviv, Haifa in most intense wave of True Promise IIIIn the most intense phase of Operation True Promise III so far, Iranian long-range missiles tore through multiple layers of Israeli air defenses in the early hours of Wednesday, striking and destroying targets across the occupied territories.
The latest wave of the retaliatory operation, which began late on Friday in response to the Israeli regime’s brutal aggression against the Islamic Republic, commenced at approximately 1:30 a.m. Iran time.
Despite heavy media censorship imposed by the Zionist regime, numerous videos surfaced on social media showing the skies over Tel Aviv and Haifa lit up by a barrage of long-range, advanced Iranian missiles breaching Israel’s three-tiered missile interceptors.
Several of the missiles, some of them being used for the first time, hit their intended targets with precision, including military and intelligence sites belonging to the regime.
Images circulating on social media platforms showed plumes of smoke and fire billowing up in the air at various sensitive and strategic Israeli military intelligence centers.
Israeli settlers, according to some Israeli media reports, were angry at the so-called 'Home Command' about sirens not blaring on time to allow them to hide in underground bunkers.
An Israeli Telegram channel, while sharing a video of Iranian missiles hitting their targets, wrote: "Watch and count the number of interceptor missiles fired by the air defense system, and at the end of the video, you’ll see the Iranian missile bypass them and hit its targets.”
Pertinently, Iranian armed forces have been employing various innovative tactics to outsmart the much-hyped American-assisted Israeli missile interceptors, which have failed to intercept the missiles being fired from Iran since June 13.
The missiles on Wednesday morning flew over the sky of the occupied West Bank as well, where Palestinians were captured celebrating and rejoicing at the sight of Iranian missiles heading toward Tel Aviv and Haifa.
A report in the Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth said the latest wave of the Iranian retaliatory operation is "unusual" amid loud explosions in the occupied territories.
The eleventh phase of the operation came only hours after the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) announced that it targeted a number of Israeli military airbases in the occupied territories in retaliatory strikes in the tenth phase of True Promise III.
In a televised statement, an IRGC officer said the airbases that were used to carry out aggression on the Islamic Republic of Iran in recent days were attacked on Tuesday.
Before the latest wave of missile launches, in a stern warning to the Israeli regime and its Western backers on Tuesday, Iran’s top military commander said the “punitive operations” against the regime will be carried out soon.
Major General Sayyid Abdolrahim Mousavi, the newly-elected Chief of Staff of Iran’s Armed Forces, in a televised message, said the operations carried out so far since Friday have served as a deterrent warning, and the actual punitive operations will be executed soon.
“The great nation of Iran, as history shows, has never bowed to any aggression, and, while standing firm against this savage act, will make the Zionist regime pay for its crimes, God willing,” he announced.
These retaliatory attacks were part of the tenth phase of Operation True Promise III, which was launched late on Friday in response to the unprovoked Israeli aggression against Iran, which claimed the lives of many senior military commanders, nuclear scientists, and civilians.
>>2336318https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/06/18/749982/fattah-missiles-send-message-iranian-power-israel-allies-irgc Fattah missile sends message of Iranian power to Israel's war-mongering ally: IRGC The Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) has announced that the advanced "Fattah" hypersonic missiles were used in the eleventh phase of Operation True Promise III in the early hours of Wednesday
The missile successfully penetrated much-hyped Israeli air defenses and delivered a powerful message to the regime and its Western backers, the IRGC said.
The IRGC described the latest phase of the operation as a "turning point," saying the deployment of first-generation Fattah missiles marked “the beginning of the end” for Israel’s “mythical” missile defense systems.
It congratulated the commanders and fighters of the IRGC aerospace force for the success of a “glorious and pride-inducing” mission.
“The powerful and highly maneuverable Fattah missiles repeatedly shook the shelters of the cowardly Zionists tonight, sending a clear message of Iran’s strength to Tel Aviv’s warmongering ally, which continues to dwell in delusions and false assumptions,” it noted.
The statement emphasized that the missile barrage proved Iran now holds complete dominance over the skies of the occupied territories and that Israeli settlers remain utterly defenseless against the Islamic Republic’s precision strikes
Fattah (meaning "the opener") is a precision-guided two-stage solid-fueled missile with a range of 1,400 km and a terminal speed of Mach 13 to 15, unveiled in June 2023.
This speed, along with movable nozzles that allow the missile to maneuver in all directions both in and out of the Earth's atmosphere, makes it immune to interception by all existing anti-missile systems, according to military experts.
Former IRGC aerospace commander Brigadier General Amir Ali Hajizadeh described the missile as a "giant leap" at its unveiling ceremony in 2023.
Before Iran, only three countries had mastered the technology to manufacture operational hypersonic missiles, namely Russia, China and India. Their models differ in launch platforms, range, payload, and hypersonic technology itself.
The eleventh phase of the operation was the most intense so far and saw Iranian missiles tear through multiple layers of Israeli air defense systems.
Despite heavy media censorship imposed by the Zionist regime, videos surfaced on social media showing the skies over Tel Aviv and Haifa lit up by a barrage of advanced Iranian missiles breaching Israel’s three-tiered missile interceptors.
>>2336329Shawarma, duhhhh
if you've already tried that then try some kafta or manakish
>>2336337they already shill for Saudi Arabia and the UAE lol that's nothing new
>>2336338ohh yeah that's Biryani I think. yeah it's pretty yummy.
>>2336343If it hits an empty field, it's most likely Iranian.
If it kills an Israeli leader, it's most likely friendly fire.
Joint Statement of Labor and Social Organizations in Opposition to the War and the Current Dangerous and Critical Conditions”The military conflict between the two fascist governments of Israel and the Islamic Republic continues. The war, which has so far left more than a thousand dead and injured on both sides; has displaced millions of people and created critical conditions for all people, especially for the most vulnerable segments of society, children and the elderly. In short, society has been pushed to the brink of a more dangerous precipice than ever.
“We have shouted and said over and over again:
“We do not want war or killing, we want lasting prosperity,” but the government, by continuing its warmongering and greedy for obtaining weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear weapons, has created and imposed these “hellish” conditions on society in order to continue the policy of “throwing Israel into the sea” and fighting the “great devil of America.”
Society is extremely inflamed and in danger. The current situation has gone beyond poverty and insecurity and has become a full-blown crisis.
The war that began on the first day with the slogan of destroying the IRGC leaders and the Khatam headquarters and other leaders has today entered a more dangerous stage in a military conflict. To the extent that the criminal government of Israel is brazenly threatening to burn Tehran.
The killing and attacks on civilians by both sides are condemned.
The people do not want war and we believe that in order to stop this war, the grounds and infrastructure that caused it must be destroyed. Therefore, we, the signatories of this statement, declare:
We, the people, do not want weapons of mass destruction and nuclear weapons, we consider any nuclear activity of the Islamic Republic to be dangerous and detrimental to the people.
All of this has been achieved by plundering our lives and livelihoods, and its consequences have been the spread of poverty and insecurity in society and the region. Our demand is to stop all these projects and end the war.
We, the people, do not want poverty, we do not want insecurity, we do not want so much discrimination, oppression, and exploitation. Our response to these miserable and horrific situations and our solution to save human lives is the victorious continuation of our revolution. We, the people, will not allow them to suppress our demands and block our path of progress under the pretext of war, and to intensify arrests and repression under the shadow of war, and to expand the scope of killing and execution with accusations such as "Israeli spy."
We, the workers, retirees, teachers, truck drivers, nurses, bakers, wage earners, farmers and various sections of the people, have fought for welfare, livelihood and freedom, and in the continuation of our protests and in the dangerous conditions we find ourselves in, we have pursued our demands and stand united against war and warmongers.
Our solution in these circumstances and in response to these warmongers is strikes and general and nationwide rallies against all kinds of oppression, discrimination, censorship and repression.
No more war, exploitation and misery. This is our final warning.
It is time for us to work together and stand united with the movement to defend life and livelihood, defend freedom of expression, association, strike, assembly, protest and the release of all political prisoners, against warmongers, reactionaries and terrorists.
Let us organize and become one voice to advance our struggles and realize our human demands.
We will stand by until this catastrophic situation is reversed!
No to war, no to warmongering governments
Woman, life, freedom
1_ Kermanshah Electrical and Metal Association
2_ Don't Execute
3- Iranian Teachers' Union Challenge
4- Dadkhahan
5_ Pensioners' Council
6- Nurses' Protest Organizing Council
7- Contract Oil Workers' Protest Organizing Council
8- Informal Oil Workers' Protest Organizing Council (Third Party)
9_ Defenders of Children's Rights
10_ Iranian Women's Voice
https://t.me/shoranaft >>2336349I once had a conversation with one of these westerners who think the middle eastern people are begging to be bombed by the USA in order to liberate them from le regime or smth. someone applied this arguement to Lebanon and as a Lebanese I thought it is my responsibility to clarify that this is not true. he completely lashed out at me, started insulting me, and never listened to me lol.
Oh well, it's better off this way ig. Saddam attacked Iran depending on the delusion that Arab Iranians would betray Iran and fight on his side. and Now Netanyahu is attacking Iran depending on liberal Iranians to betray Iran and get rid of the government. It never works.
>>2336365The ummah is weak.
Israel please invade and take the Druze lands, save us the trouble.
>>2336376It's Israel's strategy. It's actually the only one they really have that's plausible (without US joining).
After they kill Iran's leadership, and Iran doesn't surrender or collapse, then they are faced with a situation where they are being bombed indefinitely. Intolerable for Israel.
>>2336376>We doing "decapitation strike" meme again?I see them going for it, yet even after both Bibi and Trump have placed that on the table explicitly, the normies without my credentials in psychological aberrations seem to have written it off as bluster. I haven't. The sirens are flashing for me.
>but the chances of success are abysmal, and do we even know how likely it is to pay off?Do you mean success as in accomplishing the strike itself or success as in the intended results? I'm assuming you mean the former - you appear to be taking these separately. I actually think they have great chances of accomplishing the strike itself but abysmal chances of getting what they want from it.
>>2336379It seems like Khamenei is very concerned with his legacy and wants to be remembered as a calm and conscientious spiritual who practiced great restraint against American imperialist incursions. He's always been like this and has never realized that these western warmongers only understand violence. Modern secular western leaders think spirituality is a fucking joke, they'd happily wipe their ass with any religious, sacred text the world over. Money and might is the new god.
Khamenei's piety is effectively naivety when you compare him to every other world leader.
>>2336392idk what Khamenei is trying to do with that anti-nuke fatwa. his reasoning for it is pretty dumb too not gonna lie, but I try not to think about it much and hope for the best.
>>2336393its literally a blah blah blah stfu
>>2336394hmmm no, it's definitely a possibility that they secretly have a nuke, they've had the technology for that for years and they can do it pretty easily.
>>2336324He's pretty much irrelevant on today's politics, like sargon of arkat and other Opiniontubers once the candidate their political power was entertwined with fell out they got unpersoned by the net.
so his oppinion is meaningless.
>>2336410Gulag
Gulag
Gulag.
>>2336417you're a scholar of Islamic law? I'm not. I'm just an ordinary Muslim.
from what I've heard his reasoning is because it harms innocent people and the environment (which is true, and these are haram) but he should know that 1. these laws are for back when wars were fought with swords and arrows 2. their missiles can already harm innocent people 3. closing the strait of hormuz would harm innocent people and 4. 99% of the time nukes are built for deterrence and not to actually be used lol
>>2334867>an air war of sortsA space war, but go on …
>>2334867>paratroopers landing in israelDon't the planes required for this generally need like total air supremacy/SEAD/DEAD stuff to get through?
>>2334867>Kurdish workers partyErdochad already castrated them
>>2334867>The war has already became a Immigration crisisAre you talking about the settlers trying to flee back to their home countries?
>>2336438When you think about it. Say they got everything they wanted. What does that world look like? Is it better?
It's actually the fukuyamist vision. When he talked about the end of history, this is what he meant. Endless war (which he called "events") that represses and destroys everyone outside of the West, while the West itself ossified into increasingly fascistic domination by the national security state.
>>2336429Okay but
>>2336343>>2336343Wouldn't we be hearing some BOOM BOOM if they were BOOM BOOMs and not just cosmic space debris?
>>2336451Strategic porpoises could be:
- Holding in reserve for potential US involvement
- Finding a materiel exchange rate that favours Iran in the long (ie if the entity gonna run out of their expensive shit first)
- Falling for it again
>>2336453 >>2336446It's imperialism forever in which nowhere is permitted economic development unsanctioned by the west. And somehow this is supposed to endure forever by playing whack-a-mole with disobedient organizations by the high holiness of western hegemony excommunicating them from "democracy" and therefore enabling all additional violence necessary to put them back in their place.
An idealist facade to bog standard imperialism that self indulgent reactionaries were eager to believe.
>>2336466Retard, it makes sense to support anything that seeks to topple the big imperialist project which is the US
>>2336463Fuck that. Get cucked, get used to the taste of defeat and keep marching forward anyway. Nobody said being a communist was a happy thing. We'll lose and lose until we win. Get rugged.
>>2336343the speed and the explosion.
shattered arrow defense should quickly lose speed due to the coefficient of air friction (it's the SQUARE OF THE SPEED, as faster something goes, the more air resistance any object will face).
Drag Force (Air Friction Force):
F = ½ x v² x A
A, is the area of the object.
So, no matter how big an object is, its speed would influence much more, this slowing down it faster once they lost propulsion.
>>2336451Another question that the situation is begging for is:
How important is Iran as a partner, or as a liability, to BRICS? Because whatever the western powers do to Iran. It's purpose is to reassert US hegemony.
>>2336474>Retard, it makes sense to support anything that seeks to topple the big imperialist project which is the USthe only thing that could topple it is the working class
>>2336468imperialism is when bourgeois states wage war for geopolitical dominance at the express detriment to the working class
>>2336357>Womanwhat's with this nonsense?
literally Blumenthal was in Iran and he saw little to no woman with covered heads.
that TG posts was made somewhere in Europe/the US, I guarantee you.
>>2336488the largest wave of strikes since the revolution came about because a working class woman was beaten to death by police for not having her headscarf on properly
>>2336493why are you conflating the bourgeoisie with the proletariat? are you incapable of separating the two?
>>2336494lmao iran literally sat back and just sabre rattled while israel slaughtered gaza
>>2336495what does this have to do with workers strikes and discontent about war?
>>2336497>the largest wave of strikes since the revolution came about because a working class woman was beaten to death by police for not having her headscarf on properly and those protesters killed tens of policemen, killed youth pro-Iranian government militants, and was not at all a color revolution.
radlib.
>>2336492Can we just get the no-drone mod? Tired of this drone fetish already. It's bad enough between Russia and Ukraine.
I'm an ICBM man first and foremost, but I can tolerate IRBMs. Drones are boring as fuck.
>>2336505deflecting a lot about the part it was a color revolution?
also, let me know when the US protests actually kills tens of policemen.
LET ME KNOWradlib.
https://nitter.poast.org/Hadash_org/status/1935008523529630035#m
>The Communists in Israel and Iran are calling for an end to the killing and an end to the war. In a joint statement by Maki and the Iranian Tudeh Party, the two parties called for an end to the bloodshed
>(…)both parties also expressed their principled opposition to all nuclear weapons programs in the Middle East and around the world. "The path to stopping the nuclear race in the Middle East does not lie in an aggressive war against Iran, but rather in the disarmament of the entire region from nuclear weapons, and the signing of the Non-Proliferation Treaty by all countries in the region, including Israel."Good joint statement from the communist Tudeh party and the communist party of Israel. I would add though, that the
entire world and most importantly the USA needs to disarm. Without
that the entire world is always in mortal danger. For small leftist parties in developing nations keeping your countries nukes if you've got em and acquiring them if you don't is necessary so long as the USA still has theirs.
Geo-Strategy #8: The Iran Trap
In his May 29, 2024 class, Jiang Xueqin explains that an American invasion of Iran would be a catastrophic mistake:
If Trump were to win a second term, he would likely contemplate invading Iran. While an initial invasion would seem successful, American forces would quickly become bogged down in Iran's mountainous terrain.
The American invasion would be similar to Athens' invasion of Sicily in 415 BCE, as described in Thucydides' The Peloponnesian War. Despite its initial successes, the Athenians couldn't re-supply themselves, and their entire expedition was wiped out.
This disastrous defeat turned the war in Sparta's favor, and spelled the downfall of the Athenian empire
https://globaled.gse.harvard.edu/people/xueqin-jiang>>2336541Suspicious how?
>we must spread defeatism on a tannu tuvan throat singing forum to collapse the Iranian regimeI want to kill all idealists so bad.
>>2336547We're anti-imperialists retard
We're also against Israel's genocide in Palestine
>>2336561no this forum is supposed to be for communists, for the support of the labour movement and for turning all wars into civil wars, keep your liberal bullshit to yourself
>>2336565through the ever increasing association of the working class and through guidance by the communist party
>>2336556that's not true. China never ceded after all the pressure over their trade relationship with Russia, with all the multiple threats the US/EU put on them. Putin call Xi "his friend" and the first country Xi visits, and Putin visits after their re-election is their counter-part.
India's military equipment is 50% Russian.
You are talking nonsense.
Of course, they aren't like buddies buddies, but they are not in that scenario "don't trust each other and don't really have each other's back in any meaningful way"
>>2336573No silly, the western proxy should lose and it's target as well and so everyone can go back to normal. AKA "Both Ukraine and Russia should lose."
It is so funny though, because the EU is basically taking a Marshall Plan to subsidize the USA's economy and war effort and they didn't even get destroyed by war. They just up and did it because the political elite are all atlanticist glowies apparently.
>>2336576do you think life is unfair? its unfair isn't it?
>>2336577nothing about this is trotskyist you just find communism repulsive
>>2336562DEATH TO ISRAEL
DEATH TO EUROPE
>>2336542>and that means he probably has a lot of opposition throughout the security apparatus as well.Nope.
Reportedly the "security apparatus" and Clinton/Bush/Obama generals are the most enthusiastic about bombing Iran. They don't like Netanyahu for being a snake but they like what he's selling: extermination of Muslims and theft of all their resources to be sold off to the lowest bidder by American and Israeli profiteers.
Oddly the most vocal anti-Israel people in politics right now are the ultra-MAGA psychos like MTG. Even the "progressives" went from calling Netanyahu a war criminal to "We cannot allow Iran to have Nuclear Weapons :^|" in hours after Israel's strike. It's so fucking depressing how the Zionists have complete control of our government.
>>2336589Lenin hated and rejected the loose usage other communists had over the term, in particular because himself supported national liberation over any core-imperial country.
but you keep reading Lenin through memes, eventually you will stumble upon that part of the history.
>>2336571>China never ceded after all the pressure over their trade relationship with Russiadude, it gets massively discounted energy supplies.
>Putin call Xi "his friend"he calls Ukraine a brotherly nation…and NATOids his Western partners…
>>2336602what i want doesn't fucking mean anything, what will happen will happen
>>2336600why do you fags constantly go on and on about nat lib, iran is its own country
>>2336598So true sis guess we have no option but to support theocratic capitalist regimes now
>>2336600History has proved that Lenin was unfortunately wrong on the national question.
>>2336603>dude, it gets massively discounted energy supplies.and in return he gets a shiton of money otherwise would cripple their country…?
>he calls Ukraine a brotherly nationyes, that's why they didn't do a shock-and-awe campaign like the US did in Iraq, on day one, and gave legal protection to the Ukrainian territories?
>and NATOids his Western partnersnever said that
>inb4 moves goalpostat best "some".
>>2336606Lol, I just noticed that
>crusadersis on the list. Holy shit, the Jews even stopped the Christian crusades against Muslims!
>>2336608>and in return he gets a shiton of money otherwise would cripple their country…?exactly. it's transactional.
>never said thatlmao
>>2336605>what i want doesn't fucking mean anything, what will happen will happenlmao, and I am the liberal? you can't ask for the west, US and EU fall first?
because "muh mean anything" and asking here for bothsideism defeatism means a lot?
are you a fed?
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>>2336631retard omits the text:
QUESTION (which Putin agrees)
>Question: How did your informal meeting with Xi Jinping go? Your aide said it took place in a super-narrow format but was attended by Defence Minister Andrei Belousov and Security Council Secretary Sergei Shoigu. Did you discuss Ukraine? What would you personally consider convincing evidence of Ukraine’s readiness for talks? Earlier both you and Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov repeatedly said that the Western partners could no longer be trusted.PUTIN>It wasn’t us who behaved in this way. These were our partnersCRRRRYYYY BOZOOOO
>>2336608>never said thatHA HA HA HA
YOU GOT DESTROYED
>>2336603China could have done more for Russia, but we gotta admit that the doomerism over Russia was a little overblown, wasn't it? Russia doesn't appear to be at risk of collapse or upheaval right now. At least now outwardly to me sitting on the other side of the world.
China frankly just doesn't do that much in the FP sphere. They really are kind of "do nothing" in all areas and this is pretty much institutional.
In the past, they were way, way more proactive in foreign policy and the problem is that this was really a catstrophe for them. I mean it straight up caused genocides of Chinese people in SEA, which is a very real and recent part of history that nobody talks about (China doesn't want to bring it up, and nobody else does.)
Since Deng times, Chinese FP has been very tightly focused on its immediate borders, the South China Sea, Taiwan, and Tibet.
And its been said before but Iran is not an ally of China. This alliance is, as far as I can tell, mostly imaginary and imposed onto it by people who believe the Axis of Evil rhetoric from the US and just assume there must really be some Axis of Evil.
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