>>2339009Right, and Iran could build a nuke. Any number of things *could* happen on a long enough timescale, but China doesn't have until 2035.
Like it or not, Xi is getting old and isn't going to be around forever, and there's no guarantee that his successor won't be a revisionist that seeks to "heal the divide."
What matters for our purposes is that America and Israel almost certainly are seeking regime change in Iran and, for whatever reason, Russia and China are either unwilling or unable to help.
>>2338988>China wants you have no idea what "china wants" beyond multipolarity
>It'd take Chinese satellite support for the Iranians to be able to target super carriersno, iran has radars and satellite, theres 0 reason they'd need china
>the Iranians would likely need to lob 30 missiles at different CSGs to score a lucky shotno, a single hypersonic would be enough
>The loss of prestige would commit the US to a ground war in Iransounds absolutely retarded, they'd loose a lot more and it wouldnt be poltiically convenient. "Oh we attacked them and got our asses kicked so now we need to go all in" wouldnt fly
>they prefer deterrence while the US collapses of its own accordthats for sure, but your framing is still stupid
>>2339023Xi will likely be around until 2033 at the latest. I don't expect he'll stick around forever, but the relative power between China and America, not least because the latter wants to support Kahanist Israel, will shift in China's favor.
The real question is whether material contradictions or the Marxist superstructure of China will deliver us "fourth generation Imperialism" in China or "fifth generation non-Imperialism".
>>2339034Basically, there's a 30-40% chance that a B-2 goes down. The odds of an American super carrier going down would be around 10% or less, the Iranians would have to commit to attempting to kill super carriers, would require Chinese support to do so (IIRC, the Houthis were counting on commercial Chinese satellite imaging, not Iranian sats), and everyone would have be okay with the escalation.
There's a reason the Chinese were trying to rush technology transfer of satellite anti-carrier technology to Iran.
>>2339036It is easier and simpler to force nuclear Kahanist Israel to stop being Kahanist, to recognize and protect Palestinian human rights, to withdraw newer settler colonies, and to pay substantial reparations to Palestinians than it is to destroy Israel.
We've had 80 years to destroy Israel. We don't seem to have made any progress. Ally with Israeli leftists who know what they are doing is wrong and that the present Israeli direction is suicidal.
>>2338950no one knows but russia says it can. i think the concept for multiradar integration is the same as patriot but russian missiles are just better.
>"you need your own satellite tracking".both sides actually are doing or working on that too. they can probably both already hit ballistic hypersonics and probably glide too if they fire enough interceptors but who knows with hypersonic cruise. idk if iran or china even has hypersonic cruise and natos(and indias) keep crashing or melting 60 seconds after launch because they are behind in materials and fuel science. its confusing because a lot of "hypersonics" without clarification are just MRBM(basically upgraded Pershing) and were only off-limits because of START so what they can actually target is left to strategic ambiguity
>>2339040Dark Eagle is mature and is pointed at China.
A B-2 loss would be substantial American prestige loss without triggering a crisis; the B-2 is obsolete anyways (intended to be replaced by B-21) and it'd be a subtle, maybe moderate move to shoot it down. Show that the Americans are not impervious and without limits, but leave them an escape hatch.
I 100% believe that China would support Iran in blowing up a B-2, but strongly doubt their assistance toward killing supercarriers. If blowing up the super carriers were the objective, we'd have seen a blockade around Taiwan by now.
>>2339038>We don't seem to have made any progress.No because Israel is intrinsically linked to the USA economy through the petrodollar. Israel will only fall soon before the USA does. And there, for the longest time, those liberal methods have failed because global liberalism continued to work well for US hegemony. Now, the winds are changing.
And though, BDS and all other non militant forms of resistance remain useless, there is actual bite to international diplomacy. And actual prices to be paid, every time the US needs to discipline a region into being good imperalized subjects. Which is the role of Israel in MENA.
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whic is to day, Israel will only fall in the very last stand of NATO to remain hegemonic. Whether that'd be peaceful or not, you can guess how NATO feels about losing the petrodollar. Israel will fall like Berlin did, if you ask me.
>>2339021lets say thats all true and someone thanos snaps all the kahanist. now cia comes in and assassinates your revisionist and pays someone to be a new kahanist. the problem is that israel is an ethnostate and you cant revise that because it does not serve wall street to have a secular democratic attack dog in the middle east.
>>2339025>A return to 1967 borders is acceptableEven Hamas agrees to this. It only happens by breaking the back of western imperialism.
>>2339072I mean, I assume Western military intelligence specialists already know how Iran can shoot down a B-2, and will probably put up countermeasures.
No, the B-2 isn't invulnerable, nor is it invisible; it's just incredibly hard to get a tracking solution on it.
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