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>>2353792 655 posts and 138 image replies omitted.>>2355824So if you're not living one paycheck away from homelessness you're a comfortable middle class petit-bourgeois. Huh.
I have relatives that live in fucking shacks in the slums of a developing country and they live more "comfortably" than a lot of Americans by simply not drowning in credit card debt or being a paycheck away from homelessness. They live their lives pretty much the same every day. They own their own "home" and don't pay rent. They have video games and television and electricity. They cook their own food. They aren't afraid to see the doctor for fear of going bankrupt. Of course more money would improve their lives, but they live with significantly less stress than their "better off" peers in America. This isn't meant to idolize the humble third world prole or anything, but the way Americans view wealth and class as something inherent to the society you're born into, as something you HAVE to participate in as a condition for being American, is extremely unhealthy, and using Marx as a crutch doesn't make you right. People who aren't born for this lifestyle, you can call them "petit-bourgeois" all you want, but I'd rather be seen as a scummy expat in Thailand or Brazil living the NEET life on my meager disability benefits than be a wagie in America. Is this a privileged perspective? Yeah for sure, but it's still better than whatever sickness people like Thiel have that necessitates stepping on people for very little material gain.
>>2355845>requires one to have employeeslol no it doesnt
this has to be the most retarded and useless definition of petit bourgeois ever and i have to wonder why its so insidious in the feeble amerifat mind
apparently wealth doesnt cause people to have a stake in maintaining capitalism until they hire people, anything before that is OK!
>>2355866Wage slaves definitionally can't make enough money to get out of wage slavery, that's why it's called wage slavery, it's not just some quirky term, and that incapability is what drives them to be revolutionary against bourgeois society.
Insofar as they can make enough money to accumulate then they aren't wage slaves then.
>>2355885If you are considered petit-bourgeois by normiedom then
chances are that you are.
>>2355884highly variable does not make something subjective and we are dealing with tendencies here, i dont care about specific individual exceptions. the middle class is not revolutionary exactly because they arent dispossessed and can accumulate
>>2355887>check out of Capitalismnot beating the pb allegations
>>2355898oh true, i took it like "take the grill pill, you cant do anything anyway"
and yes I deff think about how easy it would be to be a red pill guru or some shit, which would make me actual money, hell even just dropping the whole "im a communist" think and continuing the magazine without politics would make me money but ya know that just sounds wack
>>2355979no it doesn't but you do get indirect privileges from being a member of a bourgeois or petty bourgeois families, even if you work for a wage for a living.
Marx was absolutely from a privileged strata, as any man with PhD in 1800s Germany (still Prussia when he was born) would have been. Engels was the son of a literal factory owner and inherited his father's wealth and factories and used them to fund communism. Castro used his family's plantation wealth to pay for tuition and become a lawyer which is how he became involved in public affairs before becoming one of the bearded guerillas on The Grandma.
Anyway if you think any of this is meant to insult these people that's probably my fault for failing to communicate my point clearly. I was talking about Xi Jinping actually being a prole from a prole family.
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