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>>2359057 >>2361804death, death to the idf
death, death to the idf
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>>2361896I genuinely cannot tell if these kinds of tonedeaf posts urging us to think about the feelings of the poor genocidal lunatics while they are committing a genocide are like a satire or what.
If they want the insults to stop they could oppose the genocide.
>>2361902you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar
Jews should be reminded that their government's actions only increase antisemitism so they should oppose Netanyahu and mistreatment of the Palestinians.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/republican-senator-mullin-says-babies-born-us-should-be-deported-if-parents-are-2025-06-29/Pro-immigration argument: The migrant babies are ameriKKKan citizens by birthright therefore the bourgeoisie reserves the right to abduct them in accordance with Constitutional Law™.
Anti-immigration argument: The babies are repatriated with their parents.
Do the burgers have any thoughts on birthright citizenship which de-facto means the bourgeoisie abducts people's babies?
>>2361866>He has cancer btwHonestly, everyone has cancer these days. IDK if it used to be like this, but it feels almost normal to develop cancer in old age.
It's becoming a trope of old age like dental and joint problems.
>>2362239He said Israel has the right to exist
ONLY IF IT HAS EQUAL RIGHTS AND FOLLOWS INTERNATIONAL LAW, this is effectively a Free Palestine but you all have had your brains fried and can’t understand this would effectively be dezionization
>>2362244>free palestine but it is still a jewish ethnostateyou are a liberal zionist who peddles the notion that the zionist entity can be reformed
>>2362222he said he wasnt a communist recently. im done with you
>>2362248>noYes
>>2362250Israel will be absorbed economically by the GCC and will be forced to adopt equal rights, free movement, voting rights, and right to return. The only reason they stopped the air war with Iran was because it was accelerating that process which is already happening.
Syrian forces massacred 1,500 Alawites. The chain of command led to Damascus.
A Reuters investigation found 40 distinct sites of killings, looting and arson during three days of sectarian massacres following an Assad loyalist insurgency. The chain of command led from the attackers directly to men serving alongside Syria’s new leaders in Damascus. The killings now threaten Syria's fragile transition.
https://www.reuters.com/investigations/syrian-forces-massacred-1500-alawites-chain-command-led-damascus-2025-06-30/>>2362244Israel must be destroyed totally and zionist occupiers put through tribunal and executed. Accept no substitutes.
>>2362333Israel is de facto the USA, as evidenced by it being a contentious issue in a mayoral race.
Bob vylan dropped by United talent agency
All 4 of their executives are Jewish. President, CEO, chairman and founder
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wachterhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Zimmerhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kramer_(talent_agent)https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Sures
>United Talent Agency (UTA) is a global talent agency based in Beverly Hills, California. Established in 1991, it represents artists and other professionals across the entertainment industry. As of 2021, the company has more than 1,400 global employees. UTA has divisions focused on film, television, music, sports, digital, books, video games, branding and licensing, speaking, marketing, fine arts, news, and broadcasting, among others. The agency also operates the non-profit UTA Foundation.
>United talent agency vice chairman, who serves on the Board of Regents for the University of California school system, wrote a response saying a faculty group letter that took issue with the school's initial statement on the Oct. 7 attack was "appalling and repugnant."https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/uta-jay-sures-letter-israel-hamas-conflict-1235633723/
>Susan Sarandon Dropped by Talent Agency After Remarks on Gaza War
>Sarandon, the Academy Award-winning actress, was dropped by United Talent Agency. Separately, Melissa Barrera lost her role in the “Scream” movies for Instagram posts about Israel.https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/21/business/susan-sarandon-dropped-talent-agency.html>>2362373>All 4 of their executives are JewishYet people still get banned for freely interchanging Zionist with Jewish
They are one and the same and people should have realized that by now
>>2362201>Killing billionairesis
>Aushwitz 2.0Intriguing. What parallels is he trying to draw? The Nazis were really just after billionaires?
>>2362499(I say this lovingly btw)
>>2362261Having listened to the video now I love the way he talks about the movement from holocaust denial to holocaust justification, and how Israel has given white supremacist European neo-nazis the means to revise history and say Hitler had a point. I don't know if I would word it the exact same way but his bluntness is necessary, but he makes it clear he is not a white supremacist neo nazi, obviously. I think too many people try to make this same point but either make it clumsily so that they end up sounding like neo nazis, or make it too carefully and end up sounding like zionist apologists.
>>2362530It’s not working. Approval ratings are still underwater (and diving), and the lead levels have down for a while now.
>>2362532Depends on who you are and how you would take this event occurring. Truth be told, a lot of accelerationists are quite giddy right now at seeing this shitheap tearing itself apart due to contradictions.
Why are you americans not contributing to the best thread
>>2362459 on /leftypol/?
>>2362532doesnt matter. the bourgeoisie, musk purging himself from State over it apparently, being its biggest critics bodes incredibly well for proletarians. Work requirement of 18 hours a week for medicaid is light work
>muh medicaid and medicare fundingits all free money to capitalists anyways
>muh debt, labor shortage, credit downgrade, etc.not proletarian problem
>>2362532Extremely. 45 billion dollars for ICE "detainment facilities" plus tens of billions more for recruitment and prisoner transport/removal. If the bill passes ICE will literally be better funded than the marine corps, the FBI, and the armies of most nations. All that "deep state" fuckery will look laughable compared to what's coming next.
It's absolutely bad shit, and the fact that there's a clear effort to distract from talking about it in this thread is a little sussy wussy
>>2362587Actual nothing burger. I will explain why,
>Cuts $930B from Medicaidall of that goes to capitalits anyways
>16M lose health insuranceworkers are assured health insurance if they have jobs
>Slashes food asst for poor families by $186BSNAPS raises food prices for proletarians by subsidizing the lumpens
>Lower incomes for bottom 40% of familiesfake news. real wages going up
>Increases deficit by $3.3Tproletarians dont give a fuck about this. the fact that you actually do demonstrates your bourgeois thinking and wrongness.
>$45B for new immigration jailsget the lumpens out. gusano go home better for prole
>Billions for defense contractors>Usual gaggle of anti-trans shit WE NEED MORE MONEY IN POLITICS!!!- GOP
https://www.newsweek.com/supreme-court-jd-vance-campaign-finance-ohio-case-2092657Supreme Court takes up major new challenge to campaign finance restrictions
The court will consider a Republican request to strike down restrictions on how much national party committees can spend in coordination with individual campaigns.
The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday agreed to hear a Republican-led challenge to a federal campaign finance law provision that limits how much political parties can spend in coordination with candidates. The case, which centers on free speech claims, involves Vice President JD Vance, who was a U.S. Senate candidate in Ohio when the lawsuit was initiated.
The justices took up an appeal from Vance and two Republican committees, contesting a lower court's decision that upheld the spending limits. The challengers argue the restrictions violate constitutional protections by capping party spending influenced by input from supported candidates.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/30/us/politics/supreme-court-campaign-finance.html>>2362596Lazy republican shill
>SNAPS raises food prices for proletarians by subsidizing the lumpensgenuinely just pulled that out of your ass
Can we go back to banning the TOR node again?
>>2362615Not gonna lie, shit's pretty scary. Obviously the collapse of America was inevitable and a lot of bad shit was going to happen in the process regardless, but this shit is expected to get passed into law by Friday. Join an org, volunteer with your local community, form an affinity group, anything is better than nothing at this point. The time to "get organized" is now.
>>2362587>Cuts $930B from Medicaid>16M lose health insurance>Slashes food asst for poor families by $186B>Lower incomes for bottom 40% of familiesthis was happening one way of the other. medicaid and welfare cuts has bipartisan support, and how
>Increases deficit by $3.3Tnothing burger if anything it will be a boom abroad
>$45B for new immigration jails>Billions for defense contractors>Usual gaggle of anti-trans shitsame ol same ol
The Bill is horrible but dems would have given you the same in small chewable pieces. hey at least you'll get to go to another No Kings protest over this or whatever
>>2362611>but the sheer level of vitriol he's getting from the Democratic establishment which surpasses even the hate Bernie and AOC got gives me a degree of cautious optimism.how much of it is him being an arab and running the same city that had 9/11 happen like 25 years ago?
>n the likely scenario he capitulates to capitalism What is he doing that is socialist? I did like the idea of more public industry
>>2362725i do it too though, hard to actually differentiate the style
>>2362726because for some reason people can't notice his extremely stilted speaking style, and he hates when you tell him to get a job
>>23627471). Multiple things can be bad at the same time
2). Japanese internment was only done when we were literally at war, America now is ostensibly at peace and focusing on "domestic" threats
3). If you think that number isn't going to vastly increase you're only kidding yourself
>>2361783Vote blue no matter who guy here.
I would vote for zohran in general election (and primary) if I were in New york.
>>2362752https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/eta/eta20101116>For every dollar spent on UI, economic activity increases by two dollars.Wrong. The relative mass of the industrial reserve army increases therefore with the potential energy of wealth. But the greater this reserve army in proportion to the active labour army, the greater is the mass of a consolidated surplus population, whose misery is in inverse ratio to its torment of labour. The more extensive, finally, the lazarus layers of the working class, and the industrial reserve army, the greater is official pauperism. This is the absolute general law of capitalist accumulation. The industrial reserve army, during the periods of stagnation and average prosperity, weighs down the active labour-army; during the periods of over-production and paroxysm, it holds its pretensions in check. Relative surplus-population is therefore the pivot upon which the law of demand and supply of labour works. It confines the field of action of this law within the limits absolutely convenient to the activity of exploitation and to the domination of capital.
>>2362817Honestly denaturalizing and deporting someone for arbitrary reasons because they won an election is one hell of an escalation, which goes far beyond your usual ICE roundups and concentration camps. If they actually make a serious effort to do that there will at minimum be violent pushback from the citizens of New York City and other large protests in solidarity, which will be met with the full brutality of the state, radicalizing the survivors. Deporting Mamdani wouldn't just be your usual liberal grievance, it's crossing a Rubicon that the American state might not be able to survive.
So honestly? Let them try.
>>2362851Yes, the more non-citizens they can use as slave labor the better. Just like the good ol days of the antebellum south! Of course they'd include an exception for those who either pay 5 million dollars or swear that aforementioned oath of loyalty to the Republican Party and the state church, though that might vary depending on your skin color.
>>2362852I know it's something of a cliche to call these people Nazis but what else can you say when they want to turn citizenship into something you can only get through blood ties?
>>2362936i agree but the point is that neoliberalism doesn't cause the riots in which people give up, but acute malignence like this, is exactly what will, you might be poor, you might be sad and depressed, but you are not exisentially being threatened, but once the death squad comes through your neighborhood, you have nothing left, so why not fight back?
>>2362939i'm from australia so this is hardly a problem, NYC is nothing for a guy like me
>>2362959we will bury you
>>2362956seeing random civilians just get abducted by what amounts to a death squad is genuinely harrowing, i'd imagine even in a country like the US where the police is ultramilitarized (not to say the police where i'm from aren't militarized either, but they aren't like this) would be shocking, it certainly is when you see it happen, and that will be one of the final stabbings the masses will take before being forced to fight
>>2362961Vans are the Chucks of the 2020s.
Basic bitch ass shoe.
>>2362979and also probably having committees of reactionary freaks doing insane shit just to let you in, let alone get citizenship
>>2362985the malignent tumor, who could not get a job, who could not accept reality, who defends rethugliKKKans rather than at least shill for social democrats, rather than do anything productive, will be buried soon
>>2362849> to trace back their direct family lineage to the "founding Americans"Incredibly stupid.
What percent of the country would that even be? 2%?
>>2363005true i agree, but you are also a fascist for being a rethugliKKKan who will be buried soon for being a tumor
>>2363007at the very least it will lead to the syrian economy stablizing, meaning that one day there might be some degree of improvement
>>2362994It's good for the Syrian people
>b-but my AES strongman leader isn't the one in charge!At the end of the day it means Syrians won't be starving or dying due to lack of medicine and other goods.
>>2363033Read this sir before you simp for the new government
https://www.reuters.com/investigations/syrian-forces-massacred-1500-alawites-chain-command-led-damascus-2025-06-30/Syrian forces massacred 1,500 Alawites. The chain of command led to Damascus.
A Reuters investigation found 40 distinct sites of killings, looting and arson during three days of sectarian massacres following an Assad loyalist insurgency. The chain of command led from the attackers directly to men serving alongside Syria’s new leaders in Damascus. The killings now threaten Syria's fragile transition.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/how-syrian-government-forces-factions-are-linked-mass-killings-alawites-2025-06-30/How Syrian government forces and factions are linked to the mass killings of Alawites
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/shes-not-coming-back-alawite-women-snatched-streets-syria-2025-06-27/'She's not coming back': Alawite women snatched from streets of Syria
>>2362721>reserve army of labor uygha i have a job i just dont get health insurance
maybe you should get out of your gamer chair living off your moms social security and leave the reserve army of labor yourself
>>2363072hes going to arrest him
trust the plan
>>2363106I've got nothing to look forward to, each summer is hotter than the last, and most people in my generation have basically given up any hope in things being better, the fuck you talking about?
One thing I don't do is go to bed crying or feeling guilty. In fact I find the whole "guilt-ridden westerner" archetype to be repulsive.
>>2363132yeah I had a feeling Mamdani was alot more red pilled than he lets on -
what year is the video from? has he moderated since?
>>2363122yes but firsties don't want just the essentials
>>2363130home ownership, mostly. a big car and a retirement plan, high purchasing power, going to poor countries to gawk at your slaves, etc.
>>2363134case in point, average western hitlerite ^
>>2363132>>2363141Their seethe only makes the left stronger.
I’m glad he’s more open to talking about what the end goal is than other DemSocs I’ve seen. That’s important.
>>2363140but the "middle class" collectively owns more wealth than the billionaires and millionaires lol
if ALL of the billionaires and millionaires wealth was given to the bottom 50%, the middle class would STILL own more wealth.
>>2363140I never said it is a poverty culte, but it is not the treat-paradise USApollers think it is.
I see Americans as to comfortable in their position of Consumer-Emperors, that I cannot take your desires for socialism seriously.
>>2363161>How do people in tropical climates live? That's my point about you americans, you have it too good, too easy.I live in a desert.
That's what I don't get about this line of thinking, it's a fucking competition for basic empathy. I get sick, you say "WELL MY DOG DIED!" I get debt, you say "WELL I'VE GOT TWICE AS MUCH DEBT!" Why should I even express a penny's worth of solidarity with you when anytime it comes time to talk about the issues me and people in my community are facing you're the first to leap up and say "Uh, I've got it worse!"
>>2363179You literally have zero problems and face zero exploitation your life.
>>2363181lol, here comes the liberal masquerading as a Marxist.
Non-Jewish Fox News anchor says she ‘100%’ questions faith of Jewish lawmakers who endorse NYC’s Mamdani
Faulkner insisted that Nadler and Lander were merely taking a pro-party position because Mamdani was now the Democratic candidate, leading to an eye-opening exchange between the two.
“Are you questioning Jerry Nadler and Brad Lander’s commitment to Judaism?” Harf wondered aloud.
“100 percent! Yes,” Faulkner boldly declared
“The same way I would question Chuck Schumer, who works against the interests of his own people at times for the politics,” Faulkner huffed, adding: “And that’s what they’re doing here.”
“I will be candid, I find this person frightening,” she asserted. “I find him blatantly antisemitic. I find it horrifying that he won’t condemn the Holocaust, that he won’t condemn that language, that he’s fine with hyperbolic language
https://www.yahoo.com/news/non-jewish-fox-news-anchor-191352764.html>>2363185it
was that kid. and the kid
is white.
>>2363193Well truth is, neo Nazis have always been jealous of Jews since they "control everything" and now here you got so called New York Jews claiming that they control all of NYC the finance capital of the world only meaning that the neo Nazis have been proven "right". Anyways the neo Nazis are jealous because yts are not at the top of the food chain and Israel is. They also want their own Israel. So basically neo Nazis see Israel as everything they want in a state, and how funny that these Jews got their own ethnostate but the yts did not.
That's where the anger as well as contradictory support comes from.
>>2363210I mean, I low-key agree. The cult of personality is absolutely there, they worship Trump to the extreme.
It's depressing though because Trump is mediocre as fuck.
Marx analysis in action here. Small business owners fighting back due to class interest
Only one choice for general secretary Mamdani to crack down on these counter revolutionaries HARD
https://nypost.com/2025/06/30/us-news/nyc-bodega-owners-worry-zohran-mamdani-will-put-them-out-of-business-with-city-run-grocery-store-plan/"I think that politicians in New Jersey found this out, that we have the highest detention standards in the industry. I'll compare an ICE detention facility against any state prison, against any federal facility, I'll go head to head with any of them. Go to ice.gov and look at our detention standards, it's the highest detention standards in the industry," he added.
I mean people die in ICE custody. People die in county jails and people die in state prisons," Homan began.
"The question should be how many lives does ICE save "
https://www.latintimes.com/people-die-trumps-border-czar-dismisses-concerns-after-cuban-man-dies-ice-custody-585926>>2363232gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette
or just get a job in a city market lol
President Donald Trump will visit a new immigration detention center in the Florida Everglades on Tuesday for what’s expected to be the site’s official opening,
Dubbed “Alligator Alcatraz” by state officials, the facility is located at an isolated airfield about 45 miles (72 kilometers) west of downtown Miami and is surrounded by swamps filled with mosquitoes, pythons and alligators.
Florida officials have raced to erect the compound of heavy-duty tents, trailers and temporary buildings in a matter of days, as part of the state’s muscular efforts to help carry out Trump’s immigration crackdown.
“There’s really nowhere to go. If you’re housed there, if you’re detained there, there’s no way in, no way out,” Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier
The Republican Party of Florida has taken to fundraising off the detention center, selling branded t-shirts and beer koozies emblazoned with the facility’s name.
State officials say the installation, which could ultimately house 5,000 detainees, is critical to support Trump’s mass deportation agenda
https://apnews.com/article/florida-alligator-alcatraz-immigration-detention-trump-desantis-cc060aa6528acbd91a87ec1922578146Elon Musk promises to fund campaigns against Republicans who vote for Trump’s ‘Big Beautiful’ bill
On Monday, Musk vowed to fund Republican primary challengers against any senator or House member who voted for the legislation.
“Every member of Congress who campaigned on reducing government spending and then immediately voted for the biggest debt increase in history should hang their head in shame! And they will lose their primary next year if it is the last thing I do on this Earth,” he wrote on Twitter.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-trump-bill-senate-vote-b2779905.htmlThe Senate’s version of President Donald Trump’s proposed tax cut bill will cost the bottom 20% of taxpayers an average of $560 a year while giving an average boost of $6,055 to those at the top end.
That analysis from economists at the Budget Lab at Yale University bolsters Democratic critiques that the bill takes money out of the pockets of the working poor to give tax cuts to the rich.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-06-30/one-big-beautiful-bill-gives-richest-20-an-average-6-055-tax-breakThe B-2 pilots who carried out the strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities will visit the White House on Friday for the Fourth of July holiday, a White House official told The Hill.
The president will speak at a celebration that will include a flyover of B-2 bombers and other personnel from Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri, CBS first reported.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5377710-b-2-pilots-white-house-visit/Based trump destroying the USA
https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/investors-flock-europe-blocs-stability-contrasts-with-concerns-over-us-2025-06-30/Investors flock to Europe as bloc's stability contrasts with concerns over US
"Investors in the hydrogen sector are now focusing more on the European market due to the absolute uncertainty and planning insecurity in the USA," he told Reuters, adding this included both local and U.S. players.
"The framework conditions in Europe are not ideal, but they are stable."
"The U.S. is coming from a very capital market-friendly and stable environment. Now there is political intervention and also an attempt to expand power," said Christoph Witzke, who heads the CIO office at Deka, one of Germany's largest investment funds.
"This creates uncertainty that some kind of intervention … could come at any time," he said, adding that Europe had become the centre of attention in the most recent investor conferences as a result.
The shift has also been fuelled by Trump's tendency to make sweeping tariff threats and announcements that are then often delayed or changed, and to draw up executive orders that have tested the limits of his presidential power.
Immigration raids leave crops unharvested, California farms at risk
"In the fields, I would say 70% of the workers are gone," one farmer tells Reuters. "Most Americans don’t want to do this work. Most farmers here are barely breaking even."
One Mexican farm supervisor, who asked not to be named, was overseeing a field being prepared for planting strawberries last week. Usually he would have 300 workers, he said. On this day he had just 80. Another supervisor at a different farm said he usually has 80 workers in a field, but today just 17.
One, aged 54, has worked in U.S. agricultural fields for 30 years and has a wife and children in the country. He said most of his colleagues have stopped showing up for work.
“If they show up to work, they don’t know if they will ever see their family again,” he said.
The other worker in the country illegally told Reuters, “Basically, we wake up in the morning scared. We worry about the sun, the heat, and now a much bigger problem – many not returning home. I try not to get into trouble on the street. Now, whoever gets arrested for any reason gets deported.”
https://www.reuters.com/business/immigration-raids-leave-crops-unharvested-california-farms-risk-2025-06-30/>>2363304Trump was held back in 2016 because most Republicans were lukewarm on his schizo shit, and just wanted him for the tax cuts and SC nominees.
But MAGAtards were largely successful in primarying any anti-Trump Republicans while cowing the few that remain, so Trump is doing whatever he wants this time.
>>2363310lmfao, come on.
Why would you give him that.
You know he's going to love it.
>>2363285As much as I hate to repeat Joe Chud, "nothing ever happens*"
* to majority groups in the first world
>>2363306even IF there was no at the very least collusion between bush admin/CIA/al qaeda, even IF al qaeda carried it out independently by exploiting gaps in US intelligence & security – there was no reason whatsover that invading iraq or afghanistan, or any state, let alone both, would be a logical conclusion, let alone inevitable. it does not and never has made any sense. the 2 countries where most involved came from were saudi and pakistan, 2 countries with deep intelligence and military ties to the US (pakistan less so in 2001 than previously but then much moreso than today).
if the US was caught off guard, the logical first step would be a full audit and review of every instance of cooperation between the US & these countries, and playing diplomatic hardball insisting on transparency and cooperation with sanctions and trade renegotiation as an ultimatem. and immediately following 9/11 there was immense internatinal sympathy and concern, there would be true international pressure, the UN would cooperated and signed off on it.
the bush admins behavior following 9/11 was at BEST psychotic, counterproductive, and delusional. it is so straightforwardly stupid, if the reasoning was genuinely a response to al-qaeda terror, that even in the absence of knowing whether it was in fact a false-flag, i cannot imagine looking at that and not seeing that at the VERY least they used it as a flimsy excuse for preexisting imperial ambitions & domestic crackdown
>>2363266bottom 20% vs lower 20%
upper 20% vs top 20%
americans still can't make simple charts smh
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