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<Nuday, nuthread, Nubriton.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/jun/30/bbc-should-have-pulled-live-stream-bob-vylan-glastonbury-anti-idf-chants
BBC says it ‘should have pulled’ Glastonbury live stream of Bob Vylan anti-IDF chants

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2025/jun/30/welfare-bill-keir-starmer-liz-kendall-rebels-labour-latest-politics-live-news
Liz Kendall makes statement to MPs about welfare bill concessions – UK politics live
>Work and pensions secretary speaks to parliament as No 10 disputes figures showing benefit cuts to push 150,000 more into poverty


Previous thread: >>2307088

Bob vylan dropped by United talent agency

All 4 of their executives are Jewish. President, CEO, chairman and founder

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wachter
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Zimmer
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kramer_(talent_agent)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Sures

>United Talent Agency (UTA) is a global talent agency based in Beverly Hills, California. Established in 1991, it represents artists and other professionals across the entertainment industry. As of 2021, the company has more than 1,400 global employees. UTA has divisions focused on film, television, music, sports, digital, books, video games, branding and licensing, speaking, marketing, fine arts, news, and broadcasting, among others. The agency also operates the non-profit UTA Foundation.


>United talent agency vice chairman, who serves on the Board of Regents for the University of California school system, wrote a response saying a faculty group letter that took issue with the school's initial statement on the Oct. 7 attack was "appalling and repugnant."


https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/uta-jay-sures-letter-israel-hamas-conflict-1235633723/

>Susan Sarandon Dropped by Talent Agency After Remarks on Gaza War


>Sarandon, the Academy Award-winning actress, was dropped by United Talent Agency. Separately, Melissa Barrera lost her role in the “Scream” movies for Instagram posts about Israel.


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/21/business/susan-sarandon-dropped-talent-agency.html

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>>2362452
Sir Wilely and Bob Vylan need to work together to take down the record executives.

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>>2362450
OP is still butthurt

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>>2362502
I'm not anyone involved in that discussion, I just liked the word. Seems like the other guy made it up or something because the only results are on this website. Did they create the image in the OP as well?

>>2362515
We can make up another term if you are triggered by that one?
how about Divs?
(short for diversity agents)

>>2362524
Who is a Div?
I can already sense this question bubbling within you.

Well, it's quite simple, when you are presented with a group that triggers you for a lack of diversity, you add Divs until your jewish butthurt is eased. The people you added to that situation are the Divs.

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This is what all of England would look like without Windrush.

>>2362531
Is Tom Jones a Div?
No he is a Welshman

>>2362537
Looks more like Canada, but still.
I went to Aldi today to get a shop in and this, how shall we say, 'Div' woman was staring at me as we crossed each other. I couldn't read the expression, sort of looked like she wanted to eat my spleen.

>>2362537
white people wouldnt even exist without yakub, so lets start there.

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>>2362537
This is what the average British man looked like before Windrush. Remember what they took from you.

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>>2362571
why did they bury this Div in another country?
It's like his families allegiance is divided and insincere. I mean, if we have to take the knee for this sort, they can at least commit themselves to living here can't they?

>>2362576
*family's

>>2362537
So the Windrush generation are Dragonborn?

>>2362576
Gen X George Floyd was so much cooler than Gen Z George Floyd (George Floyd)

CUM ON FEEL THE NOIZE!

Bring back British ladyboys and dressing like the Mad Hatter. This is core.

If your "rockstar" dressed as a ladyboy, the Mad Hatter, or a homosexual alien, I don't want to hear it.

>>2362619
>If your "rockstar" dressed a
isn't* dressed as.

>>2362608
>>2362619
jew
>>2362622
not sure about these

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>>2362645
I don't think anyone in Slade was Jewish. I don't think anyone in Sweet either.

You got a loicince to criticise Israel mate??
Opposing the IDF is a hate crime!!!!

>"you want your country back? fuck off!"
british media: 🙂
<"death to the IDF!"
british media: 😭🤬🤬😭
108th anniversary of the rothschild's balfour declaration this year


wonder what happened to the free speech brigade defending offensive material? anything goes, as long as its not against israel.

>>2362754
Toby Young Status???

>>2362754
anything goes as long as it's right wing

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>>2362760
Oh the head of the Free Speech Union has declared it NOT FREE SPEECH.

>>2362768
Literally who?

>>2362768
I love how silly their name is and now everyone has to keep repeating Bob Villain.


It's quite good actually. gonna start calling it nubriton.

>>2362778
He lives in London
The fruits of their labour have been reaped, so why is he still so angry?

>>2362778
Huh, wasn't expecting it to be actual punk.

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>>2362827
Because the people that run London look like this, went to Oxbridge, and WILL arrest you for sneezing in the direction of Labour Friends of Israel.

>>2362912
how many more Divs are needed to solve this problem?

>>2362912
Why is his vitriol directed toward the common man on the street?

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>>2362920
Not sure how fish resolve the problem.


>>2362930
I saw one of their protests in London, where a convoy of vehicles was there every single one was a Range Rover, Bentley, or Rolls-Royce. there was just one volkswagen.

>>2362927
so many questions, so few answers.

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a'v youred yourtheory yet letipo?

>>2362768
>>2362774
The really tragic thing is he's the son of Michael Young, the guy who drafted the 1945 Labour manifesto and coined the term "meritocracy" (to describe a bad society in which self-appointed meritocrats become the new elite and take all they can grab, ultimately culminating in a revolt of the stupid)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_of_the_Meritocracy
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2001/jun/29/comment

British left-leaning types seem to disproportionately have cunt children.

>>2362924
Why is yours at a punk singer?

>>2363796
Because he's directing hate and anger at the people of this country with various charged political slogans.

Mr double-barrelled gangster pop is just shit stirring.

>>2363796
Now it's your turn to answer my question.

>>2363833
>he's directing hate and anger at the people of this country
the IDF?

Really interesting discussion between nationalists here

>>2363840
>the IDF?
The ethnic group, not the army.

>>2363835
I dunno man he references several race based attacks against himself in the song I think that might be it.

>>2363833
>Because he's directing hate and anger at the people of this country with various charged political slogans.
How are the IDF "the people of this country"?

>>2363907
>Academic Agent
What year is it?? 2014????

>>2362452
>All 4 of their executives are Jewish. President, CEO, chairman and founder
It's fine, Owen Jones has assured me there are many anti-zionist jews who would be willing to take him on.

>>2363910
How many people in Britain put their ethnic group as "Member of the IDF" in the last census?

>>2363840
>>2363921
See this:
>>2362502

Would that messsgr be shut down by the BBC and Glastonbury? Of course it would, but for some reason it is o.k to direct toward conservative Britons.

>>2363929
conservative Britons are the ones running this country. it's just that they don't want to preserve Chicken Run or whatever the fuck you think this country is, they want to conserve the only thing that has ever mattered to them: their own seat in first class on the gravy train.

i'm not going to pretend you'd read marx, but at least read this quote:
>Thus the Tories in England long imagined that they were enthusiastic about monarchy, the church, and the beauties of the old English Constitution, until the day of danger wrung from them the confession that they are enthusiastic only about ground rent.


>>2363929
>Would that messsgr be shut down by the BBC and Glastonbury? Of course it would, but for some reason it is o.k to direct toward conservative Britons.
The fuck are you on about?

>>2362924
racism n that innit blud

>>2363907
tuned in for a second and it seems a bit antagonistic. academic agent has lost every debate he's participated in, including the one he had with keith woods, so ill check it out once the stream is over.

>>2362452
>All 4 of their executives are Jewish. President, CEO, chairman and founder
Pure Cohencidence

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academic agent, or his real name, "neema parvini" (very british, wouldnt you say? reminds me a bit of mr. yaxley-lennon and his pseudonymous nature) comes from the peter hitchens school of thought where the more cynical and detached you are, the less you can lose because you are an evolian man above time or something.

>>2363951
thought that was David Brent.

>>2363943
that was the message directed at conservative Britons.

>>2363938
>conservative Britons are the ones running this country

HA

LMAO

Yeah fucking right. The people running this country have based our 'ecomony' on imaginary money on paper in the form of the housing market. They under no circumstances can allow the boomer generation die-off to create a surplus of houses. Everything you see is downstream of that.

>>2363938
>they want to conserve the only thing that has ever mattered to them: their own seat in first class on the gravy train.
By constantly genuflecting to "Israel"? Really makes me think

Has the chief rabbi ever made a single concession on his religion to be in line with modern values?

hmmmmmm

92 year old charged for crime committed 58 years ago

>>2364259
if he only committed one crime, then id say hes already rehabilitated and can be re-entered into society.

>>2364263
he committed many, but was never caught for this one.

>>2364263

he gon pay the price
an it aint gonna be nice

any children he has sired in the meantime should carry on his punishment. They do that for debts nowadays don't they?

>>2364225
so you can't be a conservative if you're a land baron?

>>2364267
>They do that for debts nowadays don't they?

err no

>>2364286
A land baron?
like someone who owns land?
farmers?

>>2364287
they just take your house

every time i try to read this thread i feel like i'm developing brain damage.
What is wrong with you retards these days?

>>2364325
diversity built leftybrit/pol lad

>>2364299
like a landlord, dipshit.

>>2364301
you can't be forced to pay your parents debts

>>2364345
this is what i'm talking about. What made you think this was a coherent way to speak?
You people seem to exclusively communicate in incoherent sub-sentences. The thread these days reads consistently like a gaggle of ESLs larping at being english.
Why can't you just go back to being normal?

>>2364355
landlords aren't the same thing as landbarons sureley? regardless, and not that I particularly agree with the rent trap (see: previous section on things that are downstream of housing surplus avoidance), I don't see why you can't be both.

the boomers got hoooked into the mortgage trap, so in turn pass it down-stream to forever renters. It all starts with the banks.

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>>2364364
Having a special zone all to yourself with like-minded and driven people seeking the same goal is now racist and chud-tier I'm afraid. Congratulations.

>>2364373
>the mortgage trap

wtf is a 'mortgage trap'?

>>2364378
Have you ever heard of a term called 'psychological displacement?'

>>2364384
that wonderful period in the late 80's through to the blair years when moneylenders would invite boomers to 'sign here for an extra £10k on your offer' and thus forced everyone's house to massively increase in value, or should I say price.

>>2364386
>psychological displacement
I've not heard of this term, no

>>2364397
Websearch can help you friendo. I didn't make it up. Research it.

>>2364399
maybe it would help other readers to post the gist of the definition tho?

>>2364402
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Displacement_(psychology)

>Psychology, displacement (German: Verschiebung, lit. 'shift, move') is an unconscious defence mechanism whereby the mind substitutes either a new aim or a new object for things felt in their original form to be dangerous or unacceptable.


>Example:


>If your boss criticizes you at work, you might feel angry but can't express it directly to your boss. Instead, when you get home, you take out your frustration by yelling at a family member or slamming a door. Here, the family member or the door is a safer target for your anger than your boss.[1]

>>2364406
are you calling me an incel?

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>>2364412
I really wasn't commenting on your sexlife lmao. But that's another cigar thing. Stop telling on yourself homie.

>>2364406
My elderly landlord will probably die by next year and I will be homeless again, I'm too scared to even look at equivalent places to rent. I have a cash deal at the moment so my life and immediate future has zero stability. I work very hard and I'm no spring chicken, my body is beginning to fail and I guess I feel that I should have earned at least a small piece of that by now.

Palestine Action got tried yesterday or something? Wasn't around to pay attention. Idk but apparently its still ok to say you support them and their twitter isn't down.

owen jones status?

>>2364464
pozzed in the bumitzvah

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>>2364452
Are you the same "anti-div" anon? Life is hard. Your own "tribe" are the ones who will stab you in the back first. Go with god.

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>>2364452
what will 'should' get you in this world? work less hard, and save more money/invest more, spend less

>>2364484
better idea: let's import and house 1 million nubritons each year, to keep the wheels on clown economy turning

>>2364485
You think you wouldn't be the same victim in a homogenous society? Look at Japan or whatever you wank your dick to.

another day in Keir Starmer's American Colonial Island of Britain

>>2364485
ok then, dont improve your situation, just keep crying.

>>2364488
globalisation, it's a bitch ain't it?

>>2364489
Why does Keir get all the credit? Aren't all of your PMs the same? Maybe it has more to do with your country's place in the world and less to do with the current figurehead.

>>2364491
I'm working to put shit in the toilet

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>>2364492
There was this guy who wrote about how capitalism sucks. He wrote about your country in particular pretty extensively.

>>2364495
yeah some elitist jew. How do you not see your own hypocrisy in this? It's staggering.

>>2364492
man even on leftypol brits are fucking captured by this populist right shit. you are so lacking in materialism it's insane you guys are all such cucks whining over immigration. we get it the bourgeoisie weaponises immigration against the working class. i dont care bc the working class in this country are idiots anyway. but its ok marx can fix them.

>>2364493
They're more or less all of extremely low quality but Starmer is especially artificial and treacherous. Every PM we have it seems to be a new low.

>>2364498
>working class in this country are idiots anyway.

>>2364504
that's a banner pic right there

>>2364498
shut the fuck up yank.

>>2364502
when i say 'kier starmer's…' I don't literally mean Kier so much as I mean the Kier Starmer Labour Administration. A bureaucracy that moves at a snail's pace, and in all the wrong directions.

>>2364507
I'm british but I wish I wasn't cuz you lot are fucking dysgenic

>>2364504
>le noble savage working class

shut the fuck up controlled opposition

>>2364509
I am the working class you bellend

>>2364502
Pretty sure ye old "pivot to America" started with Brexit. I don't think Keir was team Brexit. Immediately after your country left the EU it pivoted to America and Canada because your irrelevant country really has no other options. It's either EU or America for you.

>>2364511
don't care?? why are you doing identity politics in year of our lord 2025

>>2364515
I am the proletariat you bellend

>>2364514
The only way Britain could be relevant in the future is by massively increasing the population, ironically through immigration but you don't want that.

>>2364514
you are not quite correct but brexit was definitely the moment we were fully captured. It happened really in the thatcher times, but accelerated in blair times. Why do you think every british firm of value or any meaningful ROI gets bought out by american multinats?

My meager meal of mashed pottage is ready so I will bid you characters adieu

>>2364517
and im the queen of england. now put up or shut up

>>2364519
>you are not quite correct but brexit was definitely the moment we were fully captured. It happened really in the thatcher times, but accelerated in blair times. Why do you think every british firm of value or any meaningful ROI gets bought out by american multinats?
I didn't really mean it started under Brexit, but that was what made it official. No more playing both sides. You threw in with team America.

>>2364518
??? no wonder brits are all voting for farage rn if even our leftists believe this shit. no you dolt, the problem is all the companies in the FTSE are rent-seekers that never provide anything to society and pay off MASSIVE dividends to their shareholders and any company that isn't like that gets bought up by a predatory American multinational

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>>2364522
I frankly feel it is smart for Five Eyes gang to stick together in the coming world, but you are a bunch of stuck up clowns. "We wuzzers" to a ridiculous degree.

>>2364525
I didn't say how you could improve your country's standard of living. I said how you could be relevant on the global stage. You are destined to be a minor power.

>>2364525
we as the left wing could easily fix our problems if we
1. built council housing directly and ruthlessly invested in public works
2. distance from america, regulate multinats, tax the bourgeeoisie to shit, job guarantee
3. restarted freedom of movement in EU

>>2364530
we'd be relevant on the global stage if we improved our standard of living those two things are inextricably linked man

>>2364528
you're a paid-for american bot or some rose-tinted glasses tory sheep. either way no one should listen to what you say

>>2364534
Your country is only 60 million people. One fifth the size of the US. You are already poorer per capita. You already fell behind your former colony India in the nominal rankings of GDP.

>>2364538
I'm not saying it'd be easy, I'm saying 'le give birth more' is a retarded fucking answer to a problem that's directly being caused by bad living standards and decades of 'fiscal belt-tightening'

>>2364537
Bongs are really useless. I would rather be on the team with anyone else. The only thing we have going is the shared history and language.

>>2364542
As a Brit I will agree I hate the british. Extremely servile tools yet simultaneously stuck up.

>>2364544
but uhhh we have a better chance w China than the US of having an economic future.

>>2364546
>but uhhh we have a better chance w China than the US of having an economic future.
Do you? Lol. Wtf? English is only still the lingua franca because of the US. This is what I mean, you are simply backstabbers. You have no idea how good you have it. Not just Britain but the entire West. The West is only hanging on by America. Say goodbye to the Roman alphabet lol.(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST)

>>2364549
this is your brain on idealism man you aren't thinking like a materialist your brain is like
>uhhh but we share a language we're better together
Culture is downstream from the economy you tool. I don't give a fuck about 'the west'.

>>2364555
Let me tell you a little something about actual high British culture. The british have a rich history of empiricism, pluralism, and outsider culture. We will NEVER support fascism en masse my dude. If that ever happens, the 'west' has *actually* fallen.

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>>2364558
> We will NEVER support fascism en masse my dude.
You support something much sicker than fascism, feudalism. LMAO. You are such a sick freak country.

>>2364559
im sorry we actually have a history and it's not squeaky clean unlike your plastic potted plant pampered ass country

>>2364564
I'm not talking about your history. Why are you keeping feudalism alive in 2025?

>>2364566
what the fuck are you talking about
>empiricism is correct, le 'west has fallen' is idealism? thats feudalism!!!

You are literally incoherent.

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>>2364567
Are you daft? No, you live under a supposed "constitutional-monarchy," literally just a rebranding of feudalism. I already know your defense mechanisms, republics are also like feudalism, blah blahh, but you are still doing literally feudalism. People literally have titles. You know your nation is an abomination on this world. Most of the world would tell you that, not just Americans. Your nation shares glorious company.

>>2364580
how the fuck does 'you live in britain' translate to 'you support feudallism'??? are you insane

>>2364219
The IDF represent conservative britons?? What???

>>2364582
I'm not talking about you in particular, I was responding to a post where you said:
>>2364564
>we actually have a history and it's not squeaky clean unlike your plastic potted plant pampered ass country
So it was not directed at you singularly.

>>2364463
Nah. The gov has said they plan to but wont vote on it yet, and there is a court gonna rule on it on Friday.

>>2363907
Didn't realise Academic Agent is still knocking around, this was a really interesting conversation

>>2364594
one on Wednesday also i think.

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>>2364580
Like every country on Earth came to grips with:
>You know what, fuck that guy
>Why the fuck do I revere him as a godlike figure?
It's so simple.

>>2364671
The CPC was more based making Puyi get a normal job.

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Well he ain't your crown-prince and your crown-prince reportedly dropped him so I guess his 25 souls transfers to hill.

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>>2364795
> transfers to hill.
him*

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And what did you do that in me prince? An Apache?

We are wedded at the hip.

>>2364795
lol all the old soldiers that were wheeled out on TV to say 'idk about this psycho counting bodies that's a bit weird.' like every last one of them didn't participate or sign off on horrors beyond my imagination. That was a farcical time.

>>2364225
>The people running this country have based our 'ecomony' on imaginary money on paper in the form of the housing market
You may recall the specific woman who oversaw this was a prudish Churchill LARPer and Enoch Powell fan nostalgic for a version of England that never existed. What did you think you were getting when you asked for conservatism, the USSR?

But I suspect even she'd be surprised by your callous disregard for the lives of the old. Kill off granny and grandpa to free up a surplus of houses! (Can we build? No, bob, stop asking.) What pure socially conservative family values!

>>2364230
Israel kills Arabs, and our rulers have never regarded Arabs as fully human. Saudis are half tolerable because if you slip them a little bribe they'll buy whatever meme jet BAE Systems are hawking this week, but Palestinians? They're all poor. Israel's getting lots of valuable military test data by slaughtering them, and we'll be able to put it into practice ourselves next time an illegal war is due. (Plus, no matter what we do, it's safe to say it won't be as much of a war crime as Israel did…)

>>2364498
it's like one guy, although he posts a lot.

>>2364518
"Relevance" is a stupid chimera that our leaders keep chasing. Britain should not be "relevant", Britain should be an irrelevant but nice to live in little island off the coast of Europe. As it stands, we think we're relevant because we're America's Muttley - but we're not. The special relationship is a one-way affair.

>>2364538
New Zealand has basically the same GDP per capita and is a completely irrelevant country, yet it's regarded by many Britons as a sort of paradise. If Britain was a New Zealand of 60 million people that would be just fine - global relevance, financial metrics, immigration numbers (NZ population has nearly doubled since 1999!) and frankly even high politics (NZ exists in this post-neoliberal hellworld too) aren't quite the death sentence they seem.
(Naturally, NZ is an actually-existing non-paradise with its own problems, but it's safe to say it's also a substantially nicer and better run country. Admittedly, this is possibly because a population of 5 million people can't support a press as feral as ours - and unlike Scotland, it's not culturally colonized by one.)

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These Nubritons aren't sending their best.

>A new investigation has stirred controversy around Blaze Metreveli, the recently appointed head of MI6. The report asserts that his grandfather, Konstantin Dobrovolsky, was a notorious Nazi collaborator in Ukraine during World War II.


>Dubbed “The Butcher,” Dobrovolsky is accused of participating in brutal acts against civilians. These claims are backed by documents uncovered in German wartime archives.

>>2365505
>Israel kills Arabs, and our rulers have never regarded Arabs as fully human. Saudis are half tolerable because if you slip them a little bribe they'll buy whatever meme jet BAE Systems are hawking this week, but Palestinians? They're all poor.
I like how your racial analysis falls down on Saudis cause they are an imperial capitalist state but you have to justify them by saying they are "half tolerable because rich".

>>2365585
You're getting caught up in details instead of looking at the big picture: "Arabs" is largely a practical shorthand for "poor/middle income arabs" and "rich" is largely a practical shorthand for "imperial capitalist state". (why are they buying military jets, after all?)

If you really want to have fun with it: in this model, all those dead Iranians are "poor arabs" despite being Persian.

More than 400 media figures urge BBC board to remove Robbie Gibb over Gaza

>More than 400 stars and media figures including Miriam Margolyes, Alexei Sayle, Juliet Stevenson and Mike Leigh have signed a letter to BBC management calling for the removal of a board member, Robbie Gibb, over claims of conflict of interest regarding the Middle East.


>The signatories also include 111 BBC journalists and Zawe Ashton, Khalid Abdalla, Shola Mos-Shogbamimu and the historian William Dalrymple, who express “concerns over opaque editorial decisions and censorship at the BBC on the reporting of Israel/Palestine”.


>Delivered on the eve of Channel 4’s airing of the documentary Gaza: Doctors Under Attack, which the BBC commissioned but shelved as it said it “risked creating a perception of partiality”, the letter alleges the decision to drop the film “demonstrates, once again, that the BBC is not reporting ‘without fear or favour’ when it comes to Israel”.


>It also accuses the BBC of being “crippled by the fear of being perceived as critical of the Israeli government” and claims the “inconsistent manner in which guidance is applied draws into focus the role of Gibb, on the BBC Board and BBC’s editorial standards committee” as “we are concerned that an individual with close ties to the Jewish Chronicle … has a say in the BBC’s editorial decisions in any capacity, including the decision not to broadcast Gaza: Medics Under Fire”.

THREE senior NHS staff have been arrested at lucy letby's former hospital for gross negligence and manslaughter. this comes at a time when concerns over the justice of letby's trial js questioned, spurning suggestions that letby was a scapegoat all along…

>>2363907
summarising the stream:
- the left/right paradigm is theatre which obscures the elite paradigm (us vs "them").
- there is no such thing as bottom-up power (i.e. parvini's "populist delusion").
- the elites are internally conflicted, but externally united (class interest trumps all).
- the schmittian exception shows who is sovereign, which is the "five eyes" intelligence agencies (or "six points" including mossad). israel also proves its own exception by being the only country which is particularist amidst a compelled universalism. basically, only israel gets to be problematic without consequences.
- parvini suggests rather that israel is a frontier colony of the US like ukraine, so each are granted this conditional exception. S&C retort that israel is not the centre of jewish power; america is. there is no priority between the two thus.
- parvini suggests the expressly marxist idea of internal contradiction. S&C retort that there is no such thing as revolution, but only strategic regime change. S&C make the point that the expression of power is inherently exceptional, or contradictory however, so power cannot be corrupted from within, only from without. he uses the example of "international law"; israel may be international criminals, but who are the international law enforcers?
(then Q&A afterwards)

>>2365673
Lucy is guilty bruv she literally wrote notes to herself at home admitting that she murdered those kids.

The senior staff are also getting arrested because Conservatives refuse to believe le pure white wimmen could ever commit a crime and raised a huge fuss over the trial. If an Arab or Muslim had committed these crimes they would have already been lynched.

>>2365694
>Lucy is guilty bruv
Shut the fuck up faggot.
Even if she did it there was no evidence.
'statistical analysis' is no way to decide peoples guilt.
faggot retard booj toe licking cunt.

>>2365699
the problem isn't that she was found guilty by statistical analysis, the problem is that she was found guilty with incorrect statistical analysis (and, more generally, that most people are fucking terrible at statistics.)

>>2365705
> the problem is that she was found guilty with incorrect statistical analysis (and, more generally, that most people are fucking terrible at statistics.)
Yes which is why statistically analysis should not be applied as an indicator of guilt let alone the defining factor in a court of law.

>>2365699
I didn't mention statistical evidence once retard. I am saying she literally had hand written notes in her own HOUSE confessing her crimes.

>>2365710
>I am saying she literally had hand written notes in her own HOUSE confessing her crimes.
Yes. I know what you're saying.
We've already been through this though. Get a better argument or concede.

>>2365710
wasn't the explanation for that one that her therapist told her to write how she felt, and how she felt was "i killed them", which is not an unexpected feeling in a nurse who has had patients die.

>>2365717
>which is not an unexpected feeling in a nurse who has had patients die and their deaths pinned on her (by a superior doctor who she was in love with) as either intentional or through neglect.*
Yea.

>>2365694
British Jews have been killing babies for 900 years and you don't hear a peep, but whenever a white or BAME person does it there's a national scandal.

>>2365731
>British Jews have been killing babies for 900 years
lol wut

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/02/reeves-in-tears-as-starmer-declines-to-confirm-she-will-remain-chancellor
imagine being reduced to tears because your plans to starve the disabled have been slightly delayed
imagine being reduced to tears by kemi badenoch

>>2365735
who's gonna replace her?
>>2365733
>lol wut
Can you not just use the report function? Must you engage the same mentally ill /pol/ack over nothing day-in-day-out here?

>>2365731
whats interesting is that the arthurian legends begin by a suggestion of child sacrifice to appease the white and red dragons. its just in the anglo blood i suppose.
>>2365748
an anarkiddy snitching? no way!

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>>2365772
>>2365772
>>2365772
Revealed: UK's Labour Government Is Secretly Allowing Israeli Military Planes Involved in Bombing Gaza to Land in Britain


>>2365783
why are you e-stalking 14 year olds mate

>>2365785
I saw this on /pol/

>>2365787
and you didn't think it was weird someone on /pol/ was e-stalking a 14 year old on /r/teenagers?

>>2365790
>>2365787
you are samefagging, aren't you?
Get a life for fucks sake.

>>2365790
Pol is a weird place obviously but it dosen't seem to be a troll account at all. They have a long post history. I believe them that this happened going thru it

>>2365792
Nope. Different posters

>>2365796
>no i got a vpn.
honestly this place is so shot they may as well make you a jannie and be done with it.

>>2365797
Take your meds man

why don't we get taught about the troubles or the zulu war or imperial history in history classes? it seems p important ngl

>>2363907
>>2364596
>>2365675
I found out why people are shilling Academic Agent; he is building a network (with some of the old gang such as Carlgon) that is meant to be like the 21st Century version of English Mistery; "The Basketweavers".
https://leftfootforward.org/2025/06/basketweavers-exposed-a-far-right-group-plotting-to-overturn-democracy/

>>2365803
We only got taught about Slavery. Which while impactful, is actually like, only a quarter of the British Empire's actual history. More time elapsed from the end of slavery to Suez than did from the discovery of Newfoundland to the end of slavery.

>>2365904
parvini is the spiritual godfather of the lotus eaters crowd (zoomer and milennial british reactionaries), which links to curtis yarvin in the US being the ground of NRx. both parvini and yarvin are post-liberal types who have submitted to the italian school of "elite theory" (otherwise known as "machiavellianism"). its a realist approach to politics, that power moves top-down, never bottom-up. this is why yarvin has attempted to "seduce" his fellow "elites" into accepting the harsh truths of his proposed pragmatism; that is, of formalising social relations in a monarchy, or dictatorship, or what yarvin otherwise characterises as an "aristocracy" (rule of the best). parvini has less active ambitions, but still remains indefinitely inspirational to disaffected dissidents.

>>2365803
only thing i remember from history is ancient egypt in year 4, ww1 in year 7, ww2, red scare and cold war in year 10-11.

Every time a woman is put in charge of managing the British economy everything goes to shit. We're three for three now. Thatcher, Truss and now Reeves.

I never thought I'd say this but I really miss having Sunak and Hunt in charge. The paternalistic level-headed bourgeois vibe they had going on was infinitely preferably to the menopausal and over promoted middle class mum that is Reeves. I'm getting strong the schizos are running the asylum vibes.

>>2365916
Yeah hence why I compared it with English Mistery; it's inherently elitist. What I don't understand about the project though, is why it is Separatist? I don't understand how creating a paralell society without engagement in political activism is meant to elevate "Zoomer Historian" into a position of power. In America it makes sense because the idea of a fascist-reactionary commune at the margins of state power is actually possible, but that is fundamentally antithetical to British geospatial politics (this btw is why anarchism as a movement never took off in Britain outside of urban areas deliberately abandoned by the police). Only idea I can think of is that they expect us to collapse into civil war in which this elite would take over? but if that is legit their plan they have got another thing coming lmao.

>>2365950
Severely doubt they put so much thought in to it. Don't think they know what themselves they are doing. An ego stroking organisation for the most part i'd wager.

>Cuts to the personal independence payment (Pip) announced at Rachel Reeves’s spring statement in March were meant to save the Treasury £5bn a year.
Do they know we're sending 3bn a year to the Ukes?

>>2365953
Kinda ironic because it appears the rest of their organisational modus operandi is quite canny. Focusing on "grass touching" is a great way to build organic solidarity between members and further recruit (especially since a lot of their demographic appears to be undersocialised young men, why not bring them in through socialisation!). The rest of their media strategy also appears to be pretty sound. You can see a lot of Patriot Alternative's praxis here but without a lot of the flaws (personalism, trying to reconcile zionist boomers with crypto nazi teens, over centralisation). I guess it is an inherent flaw with these elitist groups is that they dont view mass politics as worth engaging in inherently; despite the fact that outside of a military coup it is their only path to power.
(btw when I said "they've got another thing coming", in the outcome of a civil war the reactionaries would quickly be taken over by a military-aristocratic clique of the old type, and would disregard these ideologues like how Franco shot the falangists).

Have any of you cunts ever said something when your family members were ranting about immigrants and browns? I know that 50% of this thread are poltards so I already know their answer.

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The PA ban passed the commons vote then.
The lords will now vote on it and pass it too.
This means as of midnight on Wednesday 9th of July it will be a criminal, terrorist act to indicate you support Palestine Action. An entirely non-violent group. The first and only non-violent group to be labeled terrorists by the British State.

>>2366006
Thank you for banning Palestine Action and the …Mad Murder Meanies, parliament. I will sleep tightly now.

>>2366060
in the discussion, one of the MPs hinted that there were some reports regarding intelligence that couldn't be shared in public.
With the attack on Iran by the US based on phoney intelligence reports cooked up by the mossad, I'm wondering if the orders to proscribe it came from elsewhere.

>>2366073
Oh certainly the Israelis will have been lobbying for it, given PA disrupted the flow of Arms from Elbit to the IDF.

>>2366060
S poster is getting sent to Gitmo now.

I hope she doesn't get raped :(

I believe Palestine Action are morally correct. Is that illegal?

>>2366099
Not for another week yet. But say it again then and you might be dragged off to the courts.

Will we see the British Years of Lead given that peaceful action and left wing beliefs are being outlawed by the Sturmerreich?


>>2366060
Can't they just rebrand, or form a new organisation?

>>2366139
Some of them already are, and they're calling the new grouping "Yvette Cooper" after the home secretary that introduced the proposed ban against them.
Obviously with the intent of drawing headlines by forcing her to ban herself.

>>2366150
KEK good idea

>>2366084
Unironically worried

>>2366150
The real thing is that alternative names are added to the proscription. So it would be "Palestine Action; also known as Yvette Cooper"

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>>2366470
You're welcome to come and hide out in my place if the heat gets too much. I promise I won't rape you unless you wear tight or revealing clothing around me.

>>2366703

Shut up epsteinoid

>>2366703
This is where our jannies are at btw. We've cycled through to the worst people on the site moderating that think celebrating rape and misogyny are quality posts worth keeping.

>>2367701
>>2367837
It would be objectively more predatory if I didn't offer her the forewarning. I'm a man and men have certain urges which need to be satisfied.

>>2366703
>>2367870
Very weird thing to say, are you ok anon?

>>2367872
The offer remains open my dear.

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Would this have worked if it was like 6 years ago?
Jeremy Corbyn hints at launch of new party as leftwing alternative to Labour
Jeremy Corbyn has hinted he could launch a political party alongside other leftwing independent MPs in an attempt to offer “an alternative” to Labour, before the next general election.

Speaking on ITV’s Peston programme, the former Labour leader confirmed discussions were under way among the Independent Alliance group of MPs that he co-founded last year.

Asked directly whether they were preparing to form a new party, Corbyn did not rule it out. “That grouping [of independents] will come together, there will be an alternative,” he said.

The Independent Alliance includes four other independent MPs who all beat Labour candidates and MPs over the party’s position on Gaza. The group has the same number of MPs as Reform UK and the Democratic Unionist party, which each have five, and more than the Green party and Plaid Cymru on four.

Corbyn, who sits as an independent after he was suspended by Keir Starmer in 2020, has long hinted at plans to create a vehicle for socialist policies and pro-Palestinian campaigning. But until now he has not openly suggested a party launch before polling day.

The move could dismantle the left-of-centre vote and present a headache for Starmer, who has repositioned Labour in the political centre.

Corbyn’s group includes Shockat Adam, the MP for Leicester South; Ayoub Khan, the MP for Birmingham Perry Barr; Adnan Hussain the MP for Blackburn, and autism scorebal Mohamed, the MP for Dewsbury and Batley.

Corbyn said any new party would focus on poverty, inequality and a foreign policy “that’s based on peace rather than war”. Asked if he would lead the party, he added: “I’m here to work – I’m here to serve the people in the way I’ve always tried to do.”

“The Alliance group of MPs has worked very hard and very well together over the past year in parliament, and we’re coming up to our first anniversary,” Corbyn said.

>>2367930
>Would this have worked if it was like 6 years ago?
No. To be frank without the start of the Great Gaza War none of this would have been possible. The war shook the left out of despair and complacency and has seen community organising on a level not matched in this country.

>>2368046
>The war shook the left out of despair and complacency and has seen community organising on a level not matched in this country.
Do you really think anyone is organised around things other than Gaza more than the were so during the full swing of the anti-austerity movement? I don't see it personally, and getting behind Corbyn then, within the labour party, was easier than it's going to be to build a whole new party.

>>2367930
why doesn't he just try to co-opt the greens? serious question.

>>2368107
Speculation but he'd have to drop a lot of stuff he holds dear. Greens are a pro NATO party.
Corbyn is big on developments, he's a build, build, build guy.
Greens unironically believe that the way forward for british farming and food security is that it's not realistic or desirable and we should strive towards small de-industrialized artisan farms.
Corbyn was IIRC against sanctions-diplomacy, Greens advocate for even tougher uses of economic sanctions.

>>2368052
The anti-austerity movement at its height had a couple of 200k marches. This has groups in every single town and is able to muster up to a 1m every weekend.

>>2368107
The Greens are full of NIMBYs and Tree Huggers that would rather die than see a house be built in their perfect little village.

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Found a new network of Astroturfs: "Looking for Growth" and "Crush Crime", centred around Tom Harwood and supported by Dominic Cummings. The former seems to get MPs to speak at their events (Tory and Labour) and mostly atm appears to be clearing up graffiti, despite claiming they want to rejuvenate britain's economy through deregulation. The latter mostly posts shits about sentences being too short and talking about empty courtrooms (not mentioning why the court system is in such shambles anyways; austerity), ensuring a "Centrist" vibe from time to time saying its bad the police destroyed the Orgeve records or such. Cummings has said he has tried to start a techno-optimist party for a while but each time its failed. It appears instead he is trying to create a mass movement (with some serious money behind it) by getting posho PMCs to do litter picking.

Does anyone know the rules for voting in the Green Party leadership election?
If I joined now would I be able to vote, or do you have to be a member for x amount of time?

>>2368344
Why would you want to join the greens

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>Sir Keir Starmer could be ousted as PM within months, two senior Labour MPs tell Sky News
https://news.sky.com/story/starmer-put-on-notice-and-may-have-to-step-down-as-leader-within-months-13391677

Paddy Power are offering 5/1 odds on sir kier being replaced as leader this year
25.00 pounds > returns of 150.00

BBC documentary on immigration in the UK [PART 1].
some takeaways:
- immigration by blair was promoted to fill in vacancies for unskilled labour (1997)
- asylum seeking tripled after 21st century imperialism by the west (2001)
- migrants were illegally entering from calais by train or truck to claim asylum
- economic disincentives had a negative correlation to migration (2003)
- immigration was permitted for new EU and NATO members from eastern europe, to fill in 650,000 job vacancies (2005)
- EU migration increases by 130,000 (2005)
- immigration becomes a public issue
- reports show an increase of wealth due to migrant labour, but also a strain on public services and housing (2007)
- gordon brown emphasises "british" jobs at labour conference, which conflicted with european law (2007)
- the tories (leader, david cameron) accuse gordon brown of borrowing slogans from the national front and the BNP (2007)
- BNP gain voters based on immigration
- during the great recession, companies are hit with strikes over the employment of foreign labour, over british labour (2008)
- the BNP gain 2 MEP seats (2009)
- the tories propose a limit on migration, with "migrant watch" figures of 100k (2009)
- gordon brown is caught calling a concerned voter a "bigot" which contributes to a hung parliament. brown resigns and we have the coalition (2009)
- economists advised against limits on immigration for the sake of "growth".
- despite the pledge on limits, the government provided its own exemptions to immigration, citing "economic growth". net migration was at rates of 250k (2010-)
conclusion: immigration is centrally tied to the economy; a divestment from british labour leads to an importation of foreign labour, which leads to disruptions of the job market, ethnic tensions and crime. a solution to immigration issues would then be to invest in british labour and industry.

>>2368344
It's too late you needed to join by the 29th of June.

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CORBYN PARTY IS BEING FOUNDED TOMORROW
JOIN HERE: https://actionnetwork.org/forms/join-team-zarah

>>2368554
Begging all the actual British posters here to join this party and actually make it work…

>>2368554
Wait. They actually mention socialism? Is this shit getting popular again

>>2368577
No he wouldn't. Both faction of his coalition would have fallen apart if he favored heavily on either side.

>>2368569
We must become an island of comrades.

>>2368586
>>2368577
Yeah he would have been couped 6 months in.

Leaders is the cocaine of the proletariat

>>2368575
/Leftypol/ caucus when

>>2368577
he could, but had he won and become PM the city would immidiately shit up the economy and markets, the bureaucracy would be logjammed, the state would come down hard on him like a ton of bricks. He would be out of power in short time, with a huge campaign of media disgrace.
remember how soldiers were training with printed out pictures of corby with targets? how retired generals were threatening a coup?
knowing this, i expect he decided to take the nice easy option… and keep his career

>>2368592
Gets them pent up and ready to fight and/or fuck? Sure thing comrade.

>>2368427
I hope everybody who peddles the immigration mass hysteria gets put down.

>>2368584
Don't care, I take everything I can get especially if it's anti pissrael. The word has been a slur for the past decades.

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Yeah David, I hope at least 11 Labour MPs leave too.

>>2368640
Funny watching the visibly religious Asian pick-mes talk like this. The rioters this summer won't spare you little bro.

>>2368645
Brave words from a party that is soon to be shitstombed by reactionaries

corbyn and zara are apparently forming a new party

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>>2368681
Uhmmmmmmmm

>>2368692
>no source

>>2368695
He hasn't posted anything on his socials about it or reshared Zahra's announcement.

>>2368692
>Glowie posts random xeet by some guy instead of Corbyn
Okay I believe you

>>2368699
that's not a source, either.

>>2368692

>Corbyn has been contacted but has not confirmed his involvement to the BBC.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyel9kgdvdo
lol if true

>>2368700
>>2368702
>>2368705
At a minimum she's jumped the gun on the announcement.

I would say this is a new party split the vote scenario but Galloway seems willing to support it and undoubtedly most of the communist orgs will provide support.

>>2368710
>and undoubtedly most of the communist orgs will provide support.
The CPB needs to get its shit together and fucking jump onboard. They were still telling their members to vote Labour in 2024 ffs.

>>2368709
V possible she is forcing his hand. Lots of people have been complaining Corbyn has been dragging his feet for too long.

>>2368727
The CPB will 100% not support Labour now. Unless they do something really dumb and actually step into the elections.

it better have a cool flag

>>2368746
Yeah but they need to actively join in,

Kautsky and Lasalle strike again with a new reformist electoralist party
Now that i've got saying that that out of the way I will probably join tbh
As much as I love my theory and my principles, in this imperfect world it might just be a good idea to pragmatically siding with those who might improve things just a little to smooth the transition period when Revolution(TM) strikes

>>2368834
I'd rather a Kautsky than a Ebert any day

>>2368834
You gotta take what you can get as long as it's the slightlest earnest attempt at socialism elsewise it will forever just stay an ideology that lost in 1991

>>2368834
But joining them only takes resources away from real Communist orgs. They are fine for improving the conditions of workers or whatever, but at the end of the day someone needs to get the communists to the stage where we can win. That is the most important task.

>>2368872
What fucking real communist orgs lmao.

in other news, Universal Studios are still planing to built a new theme park in Bedford, but new plans now show they plan to have the tallest rollercoaster in all of Europe at the park.
after the revolution i think we should build more theme parks tbh.

>>2368933
We'll build a virtual cable street so the youth can in VR throw bricks at metropolitan policemen and blackshirts.

>>2368933
finally, free ride pictures

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>>2368937
This but unironically.

>>2368933
Nah man themeparks are cringe american consumerist slop. Build more railways and run heritage lines down them.

>>2368989
rollercoasters are proletarian

Over 3 hours and still no comment or acknowledgement from Corbyn

>>2368933
>Kill the Piggy (Shoot rich people in the head and you win a prize)
>Stock Mountain (Rollercoaster Ride that goes up insanely high and then drops like a stone at the end)
>Hammer time (Landlords are hiding in a basement and you need to beat them with a hammer whenever their head comes out)
Some suggestions for this potential theme park

god corbyn just do it
I will become a vooooooter if you do

>>2369010
hes' an old man. he's gone to bed.

In England, Parents Are Moving Their Children Into a Doomsday Cult—With a Man Calling Himself ‘the New Pope’
The Ahmadi Religion of Peace and Light—and its leader, Abdullah Hashem—are converting thousands into believers from an old orphange in Crewe.

According to Islamic legend, a messianic figure known as the Mahdi will appear before Judgement Day to vanquish injustice and tyranny, and usher in an era of peace across the world before the apocalypse. Abdullah Hashem, a beanie-wearing American-Egyptian running what can only be described as a quasi-Islamic doomsday cult based out of a former orphanage in the north of England, claims to be that Mahdi, and for good measure “the new Pope.” If you want to join him, you’ll have to cash in your home and give him all your money.


“We are looking for people who are willing to sell their homes and to come and be amongst the community and to follow me, [and to] not waver or want to leave once they’ve come,” Hashem says in one piece of in-house propaganda from earlier this year, wearing his black beanie so low it casts a dark shadow over his eyes. More bluntly, he compares himself to Jesus and says he wants people that will “love” him and be willing to “sacrifice it all to establish a divine, just state.”

His organization is called the Ahmadi Religion of Peace and Light, or AROPL for short. It’s a doomsday cult for the social media age, with members likely running into thousands worldwide. The organization is flooding the internet with an avalanche of slickly produced yet chilling content from a ramshackle broadcast studio based out of its Grade II-listed red brick mansion in Crewe, Cheshire, 35 miles from Manchester. “Accepting this covenant is the only thing that will save you from the punishment that is about to come down on mankind,” Hashem said late last year. “COVID was merely the beginning of that punishment and a precursor. More plagues and diseases will be unearthed and unleashed upon you.”

“I was told I was the reincarnated Zeus,” a former member who left AROPL last year told VICE. “When I visited them in Sweden, there was a miracle of thunder.”

Over the span of a decade, he sent Hashem all the money he could to support the cause, opening additional businesses and even taking out a bank loan for more than $200,000. “I needed to trust in whatever he was doing,” the ex-devotee recalls

https://www.vice.com/en/article/aropl-doomsday-cult-abdullah-hashem-england-rotherham/

>>2368933
Theme parks are stupid. Just go climb a tree. Standing in lines for hours just for a 1 minute ride is stupid, its even worse with the slow ones which just go along showing you literal monster closets. Just go cycling, its the same thing except you get exercise. I would rather they made a steam monorail or something that would be cooler.

>>2368554
So are all the indi Gaza-vote MP's going to join? It would be in their interests to if they'd like to stay in parliament so i'd suspect.
How over is it going to be for Starmer? Is anyone going to leave? Will Abott and Mcdonald cross the benches?

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heard corbyn started a new party

HES BACK AND BETTER THAN EVER

>>2369324
he actually registered it a month ago

>>2369349
So did he start a new party or not. I keep seeing contradictory statements

>>2369366
I don't know.

I liked 28 Years Later

My dear island monkeys lads, please go join Bündnis Zarah Sultana and shill for the land-value tax.

>>2368834
>Kautsky and Lasalle strike again with a new reformist electoralist party
I can't wait to hear the Trashfuture podcast bits

I wonder what the Greens will do. They have to form an electoral alliance at least with the new party.

>>2368834
Based. I don’t doubt Corbyn’s new party will have some problems but it is better off being in it and doing nothing.

>>2369458
bet you it's full of propaganda

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>>2369588
>I wonder what the Greens will do. They have to form an electoral alliance at least with the new party.
If Zach wins, it full Popular Front time.

>>2368648
the sikhs have always been british loyalists. thinking they compare to muslims because they are brown shows your philistine attitude. india and pakistan are always on the brink of war. the partition was necessary.
>>2369668
in the words of trump, we should deport some of our own as well. it would make things fairer.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-brings-idea-deporting-us-citizens-crimes/story?id=123385213

>>2369668
>he sikhs have always been british loyalists. thinking they compare to muslims because they are brown shows your philistine attitude. india and pakistan are always on the brink of war. the partition was necessary.
1) You are nowhere near as intelligent as you think you are
2) saw plenty of footage of EDL thugs attacking Sikhs last Summer. As I said the rioters won't spare them, no matter how much they flag shag.

>>2369724
What do you mean, Zach is just a liberal.

>>2369741
Yes? Popular Fronts contain Liberals.

>>2369738
am i acting "intelligent"? its just a fact. sikhs will flag shag, but muslims will not. its a distinct cultural contradiction.
>EDL thugs
hopefully the london youfs and white lumpen hoards can annihilate each other this year. it would bring a bit of peace for everyone else in the near future.

>>2369744
>am i acting "intelligent"?
Misusing "Philistine" is what pseuds like yourself often do.

>>2369746
"uncultured" suffices as a synonym.

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>MUH ILLEGAL CIGARETTES
who's arsed? i suppose they'll send the wrath of the law against you if you arent contributing your VAT 😡

>>2368709
Yup, she's an idiot for pulling such a move, though I am somewhat sympathetic, considering what >>2368732 said about Corbyn dragging his feet on the idea for so long

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>>2368692
I have seen now a lots of tweets claiming the same and gloating, but they all go back to this one as their source. There is still no evidence of this aside from this account claiming it.
>>2369774
>Yup, she's an idiot for pulling such a move
See above.

https://nitter.aishiteiru.moe/itvpeston/status/1940521491784679934
<"That grouping [of Independents] will come together, there will be an alternative"
<Ex Labour Leader @jeremycorbyn says he is "here to serve the people" as he outlines plans for a new party

So has Jezza accepted the position or not.

>>2369668
I guess I'm going to be deported too then…

>>2369765
Did this cunt just rob the towns supply of cheap fags?
What a cunt jfc. Never pay your licence fee.

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>>2369914
its literally this meme. everyone is happy except a busy-body journalist. "not on my watch!" 😡

let chairman corbyn lead the demsoc revolution, I am ready

>>2369880
>"here to serve the people"
Based and Zelenskypilled

Sources close to Corbyn are saying the name of the party will be IGC (Islamic Gommunism Click).

death death to the idf

>>2369943
>noooo you have to let me get away with my petite bourgeois crimes
>people want cheap poison!!!
report, confiscate and reeducate all small business owners

I always thought Corbyn had a real cuntish smug passive aggressive demeanour kind of like Sadiq Khan. But then I realised that's probably because of all the hate he has for the media and his fellow and opposition MPs he has to deal with on a regular basis, he was much more chipper in the 80's.

It's happening.

>>2370008
we all thought it would be #zeroseats for the tories, but it was really for labour

>>2370008
Based Zarah for finally pushing the far too loyal old man into something other than the labour party.

>>2370010
That only means Britian is going to sway furhter to the left and to the populist right. The chips are down. The tories and the Blairite labourites are dead and now comes the Trumpoids and the big tent socialists fighting neck and neck.

god imagine being in the Fabian Society or the Socialist Campaign Group in 2025 what a depressing existence

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>>2370013
Yea retard. Did you just fall out of the coconut tree?

>>2370008
Corbyn got swindled.

EXCLUSIVE: I understand Zahra Sultana had a really big cry in the shower this morning. Wailing apparently.

Shame that McDonnell is utterly loyal to the Labour brand to the point it takes priority over his political positions.
He's clearly aligned with Corbyn and DemSoc values etc but simply refuses to ever leave Labour out of some principle, or perhaps Stockholm Syndrome.

>>2370060
He did give a laugh in the debate though, repeatedly shouter ORDER through someone elses speech for no other reason than to be disruptive.

>>2370008
>spend 6 years dithering
>leftists wait for you to do something
>finally the left gives up
>Greens are moving to the left and have a charismatic left leader in the running
>Ok, let's join them
>Corbyn decides to make a new party

great timing there Jez.

>>2370072
>Greens are moving to the left and have a charismatic left leader in the running
don't be silly

>>2370072
Better to beat them to it rather than have the Greens co-opt rising leftist sentiment.

>>2370060
>McDonnell
His pro-EU stance + desire to offer a 2nd referendum, alongside Starmer, is a major contributor to Corbyn's defeat in the 2019 election

please don't appeal to the middle class this time
although at this point I don't think it matters

>>2368605
what about moderated hysteria?

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even the trots seem "relatively" on board

>>2370008
He doesn't seem to indicate either he, or Sultana, are going to be leaders

>>2370295
neither did nigel and his absolutely boring fucking co-leader

>>2370292
Since the RCP ran Lali as one of the 'pro-palestine independents' she was apparently invited along to at least some of the various closed door meetings to form this new party for the past year. So they've been at least monitoring the situation. Would be pretty embarassing for them to fold into a new soft left labourite party so soon after their big 'open turn' though.

>>2370380
>Would be pretty embarassing for them to fold into a new soft left labourite party so soon after their big 'open turn' though.
Anything the RCP have posted/done to indicate they would go in this direction?

Corbyn is a massive pussy

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>>2370405
Literally who. Go back to twitter. stay there.

>>2370405
That's fucking RIGHT. We're the real Nazis. Neo Nazis rot in hell, we beat you.

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>>2370419
https://communist.red/an-open-letter-to-jeremy-corbyn-and-zarah-sultana/ here.
Horrible design and layout btw. Every fucker who for years whined about 'wa waa y are all the sites ollldd looking? why can't the left have MODERN sites?' This is the modern website. You're welcome.

>>2370427
Looks good to me. Must be my zoomer programming.

>>2370390
Not per se, but their involvement in the talks is telling, as is them now publishing an article calling about the need for an anti-austerity, anti-capitalist, anti-zionist programme rather than having a clear programme themselves and pre-emptively trashing Corbyn and his ilk as ineffectual reformists.

Ultimately despite the rebrand the RCP is still Alan Woods and the tradition of Militant and Ted Grant. They've been entryists in Labour or any other socdem party around the world for decades. Corbyn being booted and Starmer swerving the party right may have shaken them into declaring themselves revolutionary communists for the past two years but old habits die hard and I wouldn't be all that surprised if they ditch it all for a the smallest taste of institutional power, such as it would be, in a Corbyn-led broad left party as some sort of faction.

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>>2367930
>>2368554
A populist politician who, after a failed campaign in which he blames the Labour Party establishment, launches a new party amid allegations of anti-semitism? That sounds a little famil—oh.

Jokes aside, best of luck, Brits.

>>2370440
Ozzy Mo was seen as a traitorous backstabber when he formed the New Party by communists because they still supported the Labour Party somewhat.

>>2370444
Nice trips

And I ain't actually saying Corbyn is the new Mosley, I just thought it was a funny historical parallel. But if I know anything at all about the British press, or at least how it's been described to me by Brits, chances are they'll portray the Mosley comparisons seriously.

Novara's talking about it now. They have some inside track.

aaaaaaaaand palestine action is banned

>FUCK nobody likes me, quick make a dramatic edited video where I say meaningless slogans.

>>2370499
If you watch it on mute it has the feel of an advertisement for bereavement counseling.

>>2370504
put keir in all those cremation ads

>>2370419
Those trots are going to return to tailing a socdem party. Having their own thing was just a phase, the leadership are bourgeois and the members won't know it even was a party in 3 years once they all leave university.

>>2370552
you constantly seem to think we're living in 1917

>>2369897
vegan BLASTARRD
respect for reading things through, though.

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The new party better have a cool logo, name colour scheme etc.
Ideology and policies are what matters to us. But the general public aren't us. And there's many people who are heavily influenced by aesthetics.

>>2370405
ngl, that actually made chuckle a little

>>2370552
And yet, they'd still be the best community party we've had in years :/

>>2370405
He just didn't like them

I agree. A populist left, anti-Zionist / pro-Palestine party that includes everyone in the range from DemSocs to Trots is far from ideal, but still far better than anything else we've had in the political mainstream for a looong time.

>>2370557
What? I'm just saying the Marxist stance on social-fascists. Anyway I didn't know Maoism was invented in 1917.

>>2370592
The RCP? Do you actually know anything about them? They have good aesthetics and larp and that is it.

>>2370496
Corbyn got banned for the same reason

>>2370557
yeah because after 1917 the petit bourgeois are somehow not petit bourgeois anymore

>>2370609
ackshually they're more of a pastiche boogaloo

>>2369752
"Republican" here means "Bourgeois Liberal".

As per the House of Lords vote and Judge's ruling, Palestine Action become a terrorist from midnight tonight.
You can say you support them as much as you want right now… but as soon as that clock strikes midnight any show of support for them at all could land you up to 14 years in prison.
While it's still legal to do so, let me say I fully support Palestine Action, 100%. Actually they don't go far enough.
Shove that up your arse Starmer you prick.

>>2370645
guess what chump, I support Palestine Backtion, what now bitch?

>>2370599
Socialists can't really be picky when it comes to new members. Ideally, ideological splits could happen once the revolution is fully in force and socialism becomes ingrained into the country and law

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>>2370661
>once the revolution is fully in force

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>>2370586
The name is gonna end up being shit. We can meme it into having good aesthetics tho. If the logo is shit we design a good one and proliferate it.
We BETTER have good fucking flags they need to be EVERYWHERE.

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>>2370762
>emphysema from huffing his own farts

i support palestine action tbh m8

Torrent for that Palestine Action movie if you want to watch it, before tonight i guess.
The producers pussied out and took it off their site.
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:bd79c41dcb128590bff08273be101612da29bf70&dn=TKAW_SELLFY.mp4&tr=https%3A%2F%2Ftracker.zhuqiy.top%3A443%2Fannounce&tr=https%3A%2F%2Ftracker.yemekyedim.com%3A443%2Fannounce

What is the fucking point of canolfan byd gwaith fuck that shit

I WANT A JOB GIVE ME A JOB. JUST TELL ME WHERE TO GET ONE I HAVE A CV I HAVE ALL THAT SHIT.

I don't need to be sent to whatever and then whatever and whatever on this kafkaesque wild goose chase to a fucking 'job club' where you sit around DOING NOTHING. I JUST NEED A JOB. THIS IS NOT HELPING ME GET A JOB. Literal zombies at those desks. Just telling me to go on and then on and I can't find what I need to do.

Job Centre Minus.

>>2370776
not football luv x

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You lads better not be watching illegal porn, supporting any proscribed groups, or plotting to overthrow the state.

>proscribed

just say banned for fuck's sake

on the subject of banned terrorist organisations,imagine if there was a group launching missiles from the French coast with detrimental effect to our country. What then?

>>2370818
Have you tried not being a terrorist? That would probably help.

I am going to be real comrades, I am not optimistic about socialism in this country. The class basis of even Wilsonian Social Democracy is long dead. A new one relies on classes that do not command a majority of society (tenants, foreign-born precariat, downward mobile PMC, underemployed service workers). This new electoral formation is nowhere near winning a majority, and if it did the state is so horrendously powerful it woul dbe neutralised within 6 months. On the flip side, the public's appetite is for reactionary violence, not socialist revolution; the liberals could Luxembourg us and nobody would care to stop them (most would join in). We do not have street infrastructure, there are no "Red Neighbourhoods", there are entire towns of 10,000s where there isn't a single socialist organisation, and there is no organic union militancy. The place here there is growing militancy is the tenant movement; and that is geographically constrained to certain pockets.
On top of this the state is engaging in represion based on Palestinian Activism which while not universally popular; is not really an issue the public care to put themselves on the line for. Mass arrests for supporting Palestine action will not generate resistance outside of areas with substantial muslim/arab populations. That is not the basis of a mass movement in a european nation-state.
Still I do not despair. I do not think we will win, but to fight in an era of darkness is to bring light to the void. Just because one cannot build a city does not mean it isn't worth building a house. Maybe in 5-10 years we will have restored the social infrastructure of the militant working class that defined this country for a century. Maybe we can improve our lives somewhat. That is worth it.
This is incoherent babble but it is real.

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>>2370961
corbyn wanted to get the EU's feet back under the table A.S.A.P

A Very British Coup continues to be more relevant with each passing day

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>>2370806
WTF based. I bet this is the kind of thing that got the petty fucks in London seething btw.

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>>2367930
>>2369880
>>2369958
CORBYN, ZELENSKY, MAO!


>>2371045
There is an Israel lobby group called: We believe in Israel, which was strongly pushing for this, and they claimed to have seen some classified 'evidence' showing links between PA and terrorism groups. it wouldn't surprise me that the 'proof' is stuff like this, a photo of a banner held by the 'Iran-backed Houthi proxy militias' or some grafiti in Gaza.

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>>2371114
PFLP also came out with some stuff about campaigning against Elbit so that's probably in there too.

>>2370427
I agree, it looks cluttered and an eyesore similar to buzzfeed.

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>>2370976
She isn't wrong considering the Talmud is just rabbis arguing about shit like picrel.

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>>2371535
didn't know R2D2 was a commie bastard, I assumed his gold plated bender mate was

>>2371836
I think that bald guy is the leader of DIEM25, a demsoc european political alliance.

>>2371523 (me)
Sorry this was tasteless. What was I thinking!? Should have used Comic Sans.

come on jezza announce the party

>>2371823
Anon that's now. This would have been useful last week, a few days ago.

>>2371956
There is no party - they have had discussions, and it sounds like they haven't even agreed on policies to put forward

>>2371968
they must announce the party in 10 minutes

>>2370609
>petit bourgeois
words

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Look at these little freaks. I'm feeling pretty good that this is where the right are putting their chips.
Reform UK puts teenagers in charge of vital public services
>Concerns raised about council appointments, including 19-year-old overseeing children and family services

>>2372005
so it's just british DOGE


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YOU GOT A LOICENCE FOR THAT T-SHIRT???

>>2372005
>the right
you know it's headed up by a brown person don't you?

>>2372043
>right wing is when no coloured people

If you don’t want brown people in your country stop bombing places full of brown people and taking all their resources, migrants are just following where their wealth went

>>2372054
You don't get it, Reform does want brown people in Britain. Specifically the extremely rich ones.

>>2372055
Every rich person of every race loves each other

Over 20 people have been arrested so far for supporting Palestine Action, including an 83 year old woman.
Fuck Labour and fuck cops.

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An 83-year-old priest and a human rights lawyer were among around 25 people arrested for holding signs saying “I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action” in Parliament Square today.

The action, by protest group Defend Our Juries, was the first organised challenge to the proscription of Palestine Action, which came into effect at 00.01 this morning.

This is the first time a non-violent, direct action group has been designated a terrorist organisation in the UK.

In an open letter sent to Met police commissioner Mark Rowley on Friday, Defend Our Juries outlined its plans. “We would like to alert you to the fact we may be committing offences under the Terrorism Act tomorrow, Saturday 5 July, in Parliament Square at about 1pm,” it said.

It portrayed the action - which it said would be nonviolent and pose “no risk whatsoever of anyone being harmed” - as both a challenge to the ban and a test of how it will be enforced.

“If we cannot speak freely about the genocide that is occurring, if we cannot condemn those who are complicit in it and express support for those who resist it, then the right to freedom of expression has no meaning, and democracy and human rights in this country are dead,” it said.

Reverend Sue Parfitt, 83, told Novara Media the group was “testing the law”. She said she wasn’t afraid of being arrested. “I know that we are in the right place doing the right thing,” she said. “As my friend Ruth always says, ‘we cannot be bystanders’.”

Minutes later, police began making arrests.

Palestine Action applied to pause the ban in the high court yesterday, but lost both a hearing and an appeal shortly afterwards.

Speaking to the Guardian on Friday, Raza Husain KC, representing Palestine Action founder Huda Ammori, described the decision as “an ill-considered, discriminatory and authoritarian abuse of statutory power”.

>>2372049
well, yeah
the fuck are we conserving by having indian leaders?

>>2372054
I didn't bomb shit, neither did the 99% of people. Stop blaming the victims you wankshaft

>>2372143
>conservatism is when you conserve anything other than capitalism

>>2372149
?
so labour are what? Communists?
shut up you dull turd

>>2372152
No, they're capitalists also.

>>2372154
but they are also 'left wing'? no?

riddle me this, are reform a bunch of horrible racialists that must be stopped?

>>2372157
Reform are the right of the conservative party.

>>2372160
answer the fucking question you cunt

>>2372160
they are further right than the conservatives who are also headed up by a brown person

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>>2372143
as far as i know, the british raj is quite a traditional british institution, and before that, the east india company. we were in india before we even had the KJV bible. the british appointed indians to represent their interests back then also.
>>2372167
>"how can i be racist? i have black friends"

>>2372146
>I didn't bomb shit
A majority of brits supported the Iraq War. Brits overwhelmingly vote for Zionist political parties. 80% of Brits support NATO.

>>2372157
>but they are also 'left wing'? no?
Keir Starmer's economic policies are to the right of the Conservatives during the Butskell era (1945-1979).

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>>2372184
Nigel Farage is one of these warmongering zionists btw.

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When did inbreeding pivot from being a landed aristocracy rural posho thing to being an underclass inner-city BAME thing?

The only people I see arguing against laws banning inter-family marriage anymore are BAMEs.

skin keir starmer alive

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>>2372054
did the UK bomb albania or pakistan?
>In 2022, around 16,000 Albanian citizens applied for asylum in the UK, making up 16% of all asylum applicants.
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/commentaries/albanian-asylum-seekers-in-the-uk-and-eu-a-look-at-recent-data/
>In 2024, the most common origin region of asylum seekers was Asia and the most common single nationality was Pakistan
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn01403/
>migrants are just following where their wealth went
🤣 britain isnt the cradle of the industrial revolution or anything; we just stole stuff from other continents, i forgot. its not as if tony blair and dick cheney had shares in oil companies before invading iraq; all of britain is guilty, not the ruling class. and since the migrants are just following their stolen money, why dont you see them in rich neighbourhoods? curious.
>>2372184
iraqis do not nearly represent a majority of refugees entering the UK. you like to generalise them as "brown people" though, so i see your confusion as to why things arent so linear. what great wealth of albania did we usurp before they came over here?

>>2372202
>doesn't have any hot cousins

>>2372202
i have irish blood so am genetically disposed to incest (the irish red hair is a recessive gene expressed by incest). i am also "black irish" (irish person with dull features such as black hair). i am basically BAME therefore, and i also live in the norf, so am underclass.
>>2372215
fr.

>>2372206
Why the fuck is his name “keir” anyway? It should be “kier”… can’t even get that right, fucking loser

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Apparently Jeremy is further hinting of the new DemSoc party at the Marxism Festival. The turnout is so large he has to repeat t he speech outside.

>>2372274
cringe

>>2372274
>welfare not warfare
cringe fest

>>2372285
>>2372308
swallow your pride for just a second

>>2372274
I dont understand why Corbyn attends this SWPfest.

>>2372344
because they're the largest socialist org outside the WPB and various pressure groups

>>2372184
bullshit
regardless, you're on the path of 'they are here out of spite' which doesn't end well for you.

>>2372185
almost as if it is all a load of nonsense and there is no such thing as left or right, conservative or liberal etc etc

>>2372181
>in india
well yeah why not?

>>2372181
>>"how can i be racist? i have black friends"
let's just assume that I am a racist, and conservative, is there any party I can vote for to represent me?
[spoiler]no[/spoiler]

>>2372357
yeah its called going off and fighting for ukraine

/thatoneautisticguywhoshyperfocousisracepol/

>>2372359
this isn't answering the question

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>>2372349
Everything I said is factually correct.

>>2372362
you reckon the muslims will join you in the communist revolution? wake up mate, lord christ almighty

>>2372367
Absolutely.

>>2372366
I don't remember anyone being given a choice when chimp ears 'ambassador to israel' blair sent us to war.

>>2372351
I know you Basketweaver types love saying this now but the is a reason the concept of left vs right has survived longer than the existence of an independent Chile

>>2372368
they kindof got their own system going on, and it is very effective. (they actually put it into practice for a start)

>>2372372
>ther is a reason the concept of left vs right has survived
yeah it's called 'divide & conquer'
it's why they wheel out farrage any time there is too much of a conservative uprising.

>>2372367
The reactionaries no. Idpol retard.

>>2372378
the reactionaries?
I don't follow

>>2372380
people like you

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>>2372375
>muh divide and conquer

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>>2372382
so the muslims that are not 'reactionaries' (hard to imagine anyone not reacting to a revolution) will become communists, you think?

>>2372383
/pol tier response that mate, so I will return one.

Not an argument.

>>2372385
muslims who have everything to gain from socialist revolution who are not reactionary fascist zealots will support the revolution

>>2372390
zealot
/ˈzɛlət/
noun
plural noun: zealots; plural noun: Zealots
1.
a person who is fanatical and uncompromising in pursuit of their religious, political, or other ideals.


ok so that's all of them then

>>2372393
Have you ever met a Muslim?


>>2372396
yeah, loads of them in prison

>>2372399
actually good lads most of them, it was the white converts that seemed the most dangerous, but definitely fiercely fanatical about their religion.

>>2372389
You only know soundbites

It's crazy how in leftypol we get ziggers pretending to be communists but always in the british thread we get actual self-identified rightoids.

>>2372420
and they always seem to be middle aged

>>2372398
bit slow on the uptake
when does he think this happened?

>>2372420
Channer britpol raiding is a time honoured tradition.

>>2372424
it was only fully proscribed yesterday

>>2372417
you responded with an emoji
shut the fuck up
:D

>>2372427
I meant the 'corrupted by agents of a genocidal campaign' part

>>2372384
Solidarity Comrade.

>>2372375
>yeah it's called 'divide & conquer'
lol
This line would hit harder if it didn't date back to the 1920s mate.

>>2372375
Also notice how he doesn't deny the basketweaver accusations. At least now know who is raiding now (why they want to raid Leftybritpol fuck knows but anyways).

>>2372437
has a certain provenance to it you might say

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>>2372449
>leftypol rn

>>2372444
Yeah nah, a rhetorical device used by ᴉuᴉlossnW, Hitler, and Mosley is actually just a correct truism thanks bruv.

>>2372449
Are you seriously doing DEBATE ME shit brother we just drown ourselves in how we are going to get arrested why do you think asking "Difficult questions" of an objectively defeated political faction is gonna yield you anything?


>>2372480
I'm sure the concept is even older than that.

>>2372484
I am not jewish. Now what legitimately do you think you are achieving for your weavers of baskets by being here?

>>2372486
Not especially the third way was the product of the creation of mass reactionary movements following WWI, with the exception of Boulanger there hadn't been such prior to that point and thus they didn't have to define themselves as a part of anything but the reactionary right.

>>2372496
nah, it's one of the oldest tricks in the book, still works though because people are fucking idiots

>>2372502
For a new political elite, you basketweavers aren't very well read in political theory.

>>2372599
it's not even a political mechanism, it's just straight social engineering

>>2372599
next you'll be telling me that shartolini invented spreading rumours

>>2372612
>it's not even a political mechanism, it's just straight social engineering
Incoherent statement.
>>2372622
Likewise.

>>2372641
what's unclear about that?
It's just basic bitch playing the room.
It's like when you need to fart, so you do it just as you get out the door. Or when there's the last piece of quiche that no-on wants to finish off.

>>2372641
>likewise
shartolini did not invent spreading rumours

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>>2372357
im sure there are some marginal parties outside the overton window, but theyre not going to be in power. its like asking if theres a party which will reverse gay marriage legalisation. 10 years ago probably, but not anymore. now, gay conservatives david starkey and douglas murray lead the reactionary right, just like how in another decade, trans women will be at the frontlines of "traditional british values". the right loses because it wants to be popular, rather than effective in its mission to slow down time, or whatever. some interesting figures of a contrary movement, the "radical" or nietzschean right, included jonathan bowden, who was friends with richard spencer. in this view, there is at least a more historical concern with christianity and its explicit universalism. founder of NRx curtis yarvin also sees how leftism grows out of christian soil and attempts to be more "traditional" in his outlook. alain de benoist is another figure, who while being a metaphysical conservative, at least begins his critique by deconstructing individualism ("national anarchism" as a milieu also attempts this). so i would look into that. we live in a liberal age, which codefies its own values as "traditional". this is a post-historical society which we must endure for the moment.

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times the CPGB-ML have not acted ten times worse than the trotskyists that live rentfree in their heads: 0

>>2372653
It's like asking if your favourite magic granddad commie cunt just started his own political party.
Stop posting, you're boring and embarrassing.

>>2372657
maybe youre confusing me with somebody else, but im just trying to be helpful. remember when nixon spoke about the silent majority? thats you. you are forced into silence by a very vocal minority. so just wait until its your time to speak. history is circular, not linear.

>>2372660
there's like 3 people here you dickhead, and one of them is me

>>2372665
youre the one i replied to, clearly. the concerned citizen.

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>>2363951
>academic agent, or his real name, "neema parvini"
The guy that "debated" Jack Angstreich on the Labour Theory of Value by Marx years ago? And he didn't kill himself right after that?

For those who weren't there: AA claimed to know Marx inside out and to have written several books debunking him. He agreed to a debate about the LTV. Then after the "debate" his statement about knowing all three volumes of Capital plus other stuff by Marx shrank to a claim about having read one book about the three volumes.

>>2365904
>https://leftfootforward.org/2025/06/basketweavers-exposed-a-far-right-group-plotting-to-overturn-democracy/
<Parvina was reportedly ‘let go’ (as the euphemism has it) from the University of Surrey due to his far-right activism, including tweeting that “blacks are closer to homo erectus” and that black and white people are “different species.” He is currently though, an honorary research fellow at the private University of Buckingham.
Christ.

Good film on Protestant Sectarianism in Glasgow: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8npjyh

>>2372656
The two parties I saw gunning against Corbyn's new party as gonna be CPGB-ML and the RCG/FRFI.

>>2373468
>this new party drama
What infighting is there?

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I love how cutesy everything is in the UK. Wheelie bins, @10DowningStreet etc.

>>2373475
bless him, he's done so much in a year.


>>2373479
Corbyn apparently annoyed because he thought it was too rash. Corbyn wasn't consulted and now out of blue he's being asked to join a new DemSoc party, I too would be a little concerned.

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>>2373479
>no screenshots from the motherfucking Times
My god did no one remembers from 2019?

>>2372679
yes i saw that "debate". what stuck out to me was his bafflingly childish tantrum where he said "i dont fucking care about what marx said", even though that was the topic of discussion. he also hesitatingly declined to define marx's formula for the value of commodities (V = c + v + s) despite being an expert. he also said that the basis of production in an economy is "knowledge", so he claimed that the more you "know" the higher your salary would be. of course, what he meant to say was that skilled *labour* is paid more than unskilled labour, which is self-evident, and marx even justified this paradigm on the basis of labour power. he appeared completely out of his depth, so its no wonder that in his economic courses, he has never formally debunked marx's analysis, or even approached the classical school with any rigour. in another video i watched, he also appeared clueless about basic keynesian terms, so he is just another austrian cultist who stays in his bubble.
we can see in this video for example:
https://youtu.be/fWDn1-dyXDg
that he is not just reproducing the barter myth, but also completely de-historicising it. this is awful economic discourse, confined to unsourced know-it-alls.

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The madgran.

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>>2373560
Oops here is the full cop tweet thread.

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Say OI LOIVE ISRAEL! Right now lass or that's 10 year in da chokey for yew innit!

>"The law doesn't have an age limit"

>Met Police Commissioner Mark Rowley addresses Palestine Action protestors being arrested, including an 83-year-old priest

>>2373555
Have you noticed how many British Jews hold loyalty to Israel even though they were born here and their families have lived in this country for generations? They seem to view Britain as an entity only to be subverted to aid the interests of the Israeli state.

One could see value in pursuing policies which address British Jews as a foreign element - rather than as citizens equal to the rest of us who do not have another 'homeland' we hold allegiance to.

>>2373564
>"The law doesn't have an age limit"
We'll keep that in mind, Mark.

>>2373565
>Have you noticed how many British Jews hold loyalty to Israel even though they were born here and their families have lived in this country for generations? They seem to view Britain as an entity only to be subverted to aid the interests of the Israeli state.
Like Rhodesia

The EFF doesn't want to kill white people they want to stop gusano parasite landlord farmers (most of whom are afrikaner) from exploiting the land and existing as a system-within-a-system

>>2373616
Rhodesia is a good example.

The Zimbabwean government dealt with their white problem by passing laws to restrict the economic activity of whites and expropriated their assets with no compensation. Simultaneously they armed militias to harass white people in their homes. This resulted in the population of whites in Zimbabwe decreasing by over 90%! It's also important to note that very few were killed during this process, it was about creating a hostile environment which forced the once-occupiers to leave.

>>2373634
All the white people in Africa need to leave. All the companies owned by white people operating in Africa need to leave. White people should have no presence in Africa, and equally African people should have no presence in Europe.

>>2373637
yeah no

>>2373639
Why are you so invested in seeing a continued white presence on Africa when it is fundamentally based upon exploitation?

>>2373641
the same reason I think its okay to have blacks live here
by your standards there should be no blacks or whites in america

>>2372679
This guy was a uni teacher?
That's embarrassing for ivory tower bobo cunts. Imagine getting in debt to learn off this trog.

>>2373643
>nooooo i have to argue with the /pol/ack.
faggot.

>>2373650
american communists already agree with land bank ideals

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Corbyn should have been consulted beforehand, this is a clusterfuck.

>>2373676
>Corbyn should have been consulted beforehand,
He was. The person who took that line otherwise to the media was seething because they lost a vote.
Novara spoke about it on friday, T:3:35:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA8SxgmjA4U

Was looking in to buying a new rug and found out Harpal Brar died. Has any of the family done a Secret Speech yet? I want denouncements. I want scandal.

>>2373750
I really don't care.

Uk muslim only dating website started

Muslim women must provide the details of their male guardian to sign up. The website has a setting for Muslim women to mark themselves as virgins. Men can also choose if their goal of polygyny because looking for a 2nd 3rd or 4th wife on the app

>NikkahGram describes itself as a service for Muslim men who want a 'shy, untouched spouse' and those who are looking for more than one wife.


>The company, which has been registered in the UK, promotes virgin women under the age of 35 as ideal first wives, The Telegraph has reported.


>Do sisters need a Wali to sign up?

>Yes, this is ideal and recommended, however for the women who are unable to provide their immediate guardian's details, they may provide the contact details of their next 1-2 closest male authorities with guardianship responsibility (elder male family member, brother, etc.), stating their relationship.

>What do you consider a virgin for this service? Is a past acceptable?

>A complete virgin means your private areas have never been intimately/sexually touched by anyone else, nor have you intimately/sexually touched anyone else's private parts. This includes any form of sexual intercourse.

>If you decide to register as a Virgin, you must swear by Allah that you are telling the truth about being a complete virgin as described above. Lying in this oath is a severe sin with serious consequences in this life and the hereafter.


>If you aren't a virgin, we don't ask you to confess anything you're not comfortable with sharing. Simply select one of our other options for profile types for sisters. You don’t need to expose any sins or feel uncomfortable because by selecting another option like “Polygyny” it doesn’t necessarily mean you’ve had any such past.


https://nikkahgram.com/#faqs

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14879319/Muslim-matchmaking-Britain-virgin-brides.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/05/british-website-advertising-virgin-muslim-brides/

https://dazzlingdawn.com/2025/07/06/uk-matchmaking-site-nikkahgram-faces-scrutiny-over-practices

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god help us

>>2374034
It literally won’t be any different from the last Tory government

>>2374034
>Labour haven't even raised taxes yet
Lmao dead and buried political party. Good riddance.

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>>2374034
Those are rookie numbers, we can go lower.

>>2373963
Andrew Tate is actually ISIS tho

>>2373676
Corbyn is a little pussy bitch who isnt willing to do literally ONE THING (share a link on his social media) to get a real movement going. He has to do it as he has the profile, platform, and prestige to get people involved. All he has to do leave the rest to us. But he keeps on fucking dithering, maybe because he is senile.

>>2373963
>Uk muslim only dating website started
Wdym there are like a dozen of these already, same for christians and jews.

>>2374266
I wonder if Keir Starmer met his wife on one of those sites.

>>2374254 (me)
I ran into JC at the Durham Miners' Gala last year and I will probs do so again this year; if I see him I am going to bully him into starting the party.

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I'M SO FUCKING SCARED

>>2374369
Let me guess: support for muh terrists, muh anti-semi-autism, muh hatred fer da rich

>>2374476
yes, we still haven't moved on from 2015


>>2374266
The way this website is designed there are not dozens like this for Muslims. This is rare for a website like this to exist in the west

So Britain now has TWO parties that are just cults of personality around a person. You have Reform and the Farage cult on the right, and whatever this new party is going to be called and the Corbyn cult on the left. And to top it all off, Corbyn's party will probably be completely indistinguishable from the worker's party. It'll 100% have exactly the same platform.

>>2374496
Reform isn't a Farage cult, it's just Farage was the only person in that party that had any personality.
Also the worker party has expressed support for this new DemSoc party, so who knows. The worker party might be considered way too socially conservative for younger voters.

I agree with Corbyn this probably wasn't the best time to split and announce this new party. But it seems to be encouraged by the broader far left so it might work out smoother than expected. The greens just forming a socialist caucus as soon as its announced is a bit annoying though.

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this is what kier has done, the labour party is dead.


should I join team Zarah?

>>2374553
None of those request approval from a guardian like the website I linked.

>>2373752

>nooo you can't talk about funni rug man instead we need to have another general dedicated to entertaining and discussing the deranged thoughts of some /pol/ack.

I despise you people.

>>2374574
Yes but we need to (politely, with kindness) bully Corbyn to fall in line.

>>2374574
It's not like there is any other left wing group with significant traction to join

>>2374541
Good, what has the Labour party done past the 60s to improve anyone’s lives?

>>2374541
I wonder when will dumb proles finally learn about capitalism and (very) basic politics instead of voting for right wing conmen. Oh wait that would require some effort instead of watching other dumb proles on the tiktok.

>>2374369
all according to keikaku (plan)

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when is this super duper chinese embassy being built in london

>>2374805
The greens? The worker's party?

>>2375724
>the greens
annoying this new party was announced the day after a eco-socialist caucus was announced but I doubt that was going to go anywhere
>the workers party
already issued interest in supporting with the new party

>we need to put britain first!
<not israel?
>well…
aaron bastani: patriot 🇬🇧✅️
matt goodwin: traitor 🇮🇱❌️
did someone say dual loyalty? 🤔😅

>>2375746
It's so funny to see "nationalists" and "christians" assert , with clear signs of dissonance, that their priorities lie with God's real chosen people, not themselves or any identity they may subscribe to. Meaning "Jews" and Israel and those groups should have priority on policy over everything.

Imagine playing rightoid tough guy your entire life and then being handed the big book of literal Goyslop by your Israeli handlers and told to debase yourself for the next few decades in front of the cameras.

<You are now the Goy Jester.

<Your role is to foment antisemitism and self hatred among the dumbest people alive
<So we can use that later into Oil/trade wars in a few years
<And to subsidize the way of life of the Jewish masterrace colony
>Go on, Jester, rile them up good.

>>2375760
you can literally SEE the frustration and defeat on matt's face that he has to now kiss the ring of power. he doesnt want to be doing this, but he knows who his masters are.

Unironically think a Corb/Zarah, WPB, RCP, Greens united front could be the coalition the establishment genuinely fears.

>>2374541
>let's vote for people who are like labour and conservatives but hyper charged and also ultra Zionist
Stupid world

>>2375836
politics is vibes

I swear the only thing that unites trotskyists, orthodox marxists and MLs is a demsoc candidate it's very strange

>>2375902
to be fair the british left seemingly has a long history of attempting to utilize whatever demsoc in government they can, i feel like it's just trying to repeat the same strategy that nearly worked with Benn again and again and again.

>>2375902
A Democratic socialist is still a socialist. You take what you can get especially if the person gets some motion. But hey. If you can rally people behind you as a ultra then that's cool as well 👍

>>2375902
Any Marxist will tell you a real transformation of society happens after a revolution but there needs to be a major crisis for this to even be possible

So participating in electoral politics, and supporting demsocs if necessary, is the best we have for now

Really got to ask yourself why a white brit who is super geopolitically illiterate randomly knows about this

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>>2375995
He's been 1:1 with Israel from the beginning. Even at the start of and to the heights of the EDL there was always consistent Jewish Defence League representation. All these pics are from 2010. Try to keep up, ya nubriton.

>>2375902
The entire british left is downstream of Stalin penning the British road to socialism and putting the idea that we'll achieve socialism through a succession of increasingly left-wing labour governments in everyone's brains.
Whether you're a CPB dengist or a RCP militant fanboy you're for the parliamentary reformist road.

>>2376052
better than nothing
better than voting labour non-stop, since they're dead now
the demsoc movement is the biggest thing we have since the death of the USSR/CPGB

>>2376067
Is it better than nothing if no matter the effort put into it, and no matter whether it 'succeeds' or fails it takes us back to step one?

>>2375834
It could work if everyone is cool and neutral on trans issues and Brexit.

>>2375902
That's based. Much better than just sitting around doing nothing but bickering with other irrelevant leftist splinter groups.

>>2376140
Yea the splitting and purging can happen after the revolution, you guys!

>>2376143
that's right

>>2375726
>>2375724
Also worth saying that even if Zack Polanski loses, the Greens will likely form some kind of apct with this party. Fundamentally a Socialist Party is not going to win North Herefordshire, nor are the Greens gonna be able to compete in Illford North.

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By paying your TV Licence you are ENDORSING ANTISEMITISM.

>>2376137
The way to handle it is simple:
Do you think we should Rejoin?
Join the Greens.
Do you hate the idea of a Customs Union?
Join the WPB
Can you not stand being in a party with people who are vaugely TERFy (CPB)?
Join the Greens.
Do you think Gay Marriage was a mistake?
Join the WPB.

People who want to put these issues ahead of anything else should be channeled into these respective orgs. it literally helps everyone in the end.

>>2376089
We won't be at Step one though. Not if we do things properly (organise tenants and workers).

>>2375834
What 'Establishment'. The capitalists will cry for a bit but they will get along fine with those groups who in the end are all capitalists themselves.

>>2376203
So true bestie, the RCG are gonna overthrow imperial capitalism any day now.

>>2376143
This but unironically

Who's going Durham this year?

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bruv shut up

>>2376367
what is wrong with what they said?

>>2376423
they're being gateholding mongs

>>2376427
>Its 2029
>The party of totally socialism has failed miserably to gain any traction due to lacking any sort of corporate funding
>The whole security state has made their goal to destroy you and succeeded, again
<It provided the scapegoat for the Labor/Tory alliance government
<And all the politicos who joined will easily re-integrate into the mainstream each carrying their own niche of crackpots and retards back into the Labor fold
>But we got class consciousness!
>But the memes!
>B-but the MOVEMENT!!!

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>>2376458
Join the CPGB-ML and do a revolution then. In theory this party shouldn't stop you.

>>2376458 (me)
Just about the only good thing that will come out of this is the:

NO REFUNDS

memes.

>>2376462
Most people here are sexual minorities, which CBGB-ML hate with a passion

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Roger Waters defies the UK government’s ban on Palestine Action

The Pink Floyd frontman released a video expressing support for Palestine Action, which could not lead to criminal charges under the “Terrorism Act.”

The British government, under the influence of the Zionist Lobby, proscribed Palestine Action as a terrorist group last week.

>>2376531
Rogers alright.

Fuck all social fascists

>>2376522
The CPGB-ML dont just hate the gays, but they also hate fat people, nerdy looking people, people who don't have "proletarian haircuts".

>>2376940
>nerdy looking people
have you seen the people at their rallies

>>2376940
How do I join?

>>2376522
Irrelevant, do a revolution. The social fascists aren't stopping you comrade.


>>2376812
Fucking do something then.

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Me waiting for the Stalin Society to fucking do something.

£5361 is what this person suffering from hereditary illness costs the community in his lifetime. Fellow citizen, that is your money too. Read LabourList. The monthly magazine of the Office of Racial Policy of the Labour Party

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