<Nuday, nuthread, Nubriton.https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/jun/30/bbc-should-have-pulled-live-stream-bob-vylan-glastonbury-anti-idf-chantsBBC says it ‘should have pulled’ Glastonbury live stream of Bob Vylan anti-IDF chantshttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2025/jun/30/welfare-bill-keir-starmer-liz-kendall-rebels-labour-latest-politics-live-newsLiz Kendall makes statement to MPs about welfare bill concessions – UK politics live>Work and pensions secretary speaks to parliament as No 10 disputes figures showing benefit cuts to push 150,000 more into povertyPrevious thread:
>>2307088 Bob vylan dropped by United talent agency
All 4 of their executives are Jewish. President, CEO, chairman and founder
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wachterhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Zimmerhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Kramer_(talent_agent)https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Sures
>United Talent Agency (UTA) is a global talent agency based in Beverly Hills, California. Established in 1991, it represents artists and other professionals across the entertainment industry. As of 2021, the company has more than 1,400 global employees. UTA has divisions focused on film, television, music, sports, digital, books, video games, branding and licensing, speaking, marketing, fine arts, news, and broadcasting, among others. The agency also operates the non-profit UTA Foundation.
>United talent agency vice chairman, who serves on the Board of Regents for the University of California school system, wrote a response saying a faculty group letter that took issue with the school's initial statement on the Oct. 7 attack was "appalling and repugnant."https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/uta-jay-sures-letter-israel-hamas-conflict-1235633723/
>Susan Sarandon Dropped by Talent Agency After Remarks on Gaza War
>Sarandon, the Academy Award-winning actress, was dropped by United Talent Agency. Separately, Melissa Barrera lost her role in the “Scream” movies for Instagram posts about Israel.https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/21/business/susan-sarandon-dropped-talent-agency.html>>2362515We can make up another term if you are triggered by that one?
how about Divs?
(short for diversity agents)
>>2362524Who is a Div?
I can already sense this question bubbling within you.
Well, it's quite simple, when you are presented with a group that triggers you for a lack of diversity, you add Divs until your jewish butthurt is eased. The people you added to that situation are the Divs.
>>2362531Is Tom Jones a Div?
No he is a Welshman
>>2362537Looks more like Canada, but still.
I went to Aldi today to get a shop in and this, how shall we say, 'Div' woman was staring at me as we crossed each other. I couldn't read the expression, sort of looked like she wanted to eat my spleen.
>>2362571why did they bury this Div in another country?
It's like his families allegiance is divided and insincere. I mean, if we have to take the knee for this sort, they can at least commit themselves to living here can't they?
>>2362778He lives in London
The fruits of their labour have been reaped, so why is he still so angry?
>>2362768>>2362774The really tragic thing is he's the son of Michael Young, the guy who drafted the 1945 Labour manifesto and coined the term "meritocracy" (to describe a
bad society in which self-appointed meritocrats become the new elite and take all they can grab, ultimately culminating in a revolt of the stupid)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_of_the_Meritocracyhttps://www.theguardian.com/politics/2001/jun/29/commentBritish left-leaning types seem to disproportionately have cunt children.
>>2363796Because he's directing hate and anger at the people of this country with various charged political slogans.
Mr double-barrelled gangster pop is just shit stirring.
>>2363840>>2363921See this:
>>2362502Would that messsgr be shut down by the BBC and Glastonbury? Of course it would, but for some reason it is o.k to direct toward conservative Britons.
>>2363929conservative Britons are the ones running this country. it's just that they don't want to preserve Chicken Run or whatever the fuck you think this country is, they want to conserve the only thing that has ever mattered to them: their own seat in first class on the gravy train.
i'm not going to pretend you'd read marx, but at least read this quote:
>Thus the Tories in England long imagined that they were enthusiastic about monarchy, the church, and the beauties of the old English Constitution, until the day of danger wrung from them the confession that they are enthusiastic only about ground rent. >>2363938>conservative Britons are the ones running this countryHA
LMAO
Yeah fucking right. The people running this country have based our 'ecomony' on imaginary money on paper in the form of the housing market. They under no circumstances can allow the boomer generation die-off to create a surplus of houses. Everything you see is downstream of that.
>>2364263he gon pay the price
an it aint gonna be nice
any children he has sired in the meantime should carry on his punishment. They do that for debts nowadays don't they?
>>2364286A land baron?
like someone who owns land?
farmers?
>>2364299like a landlord, dipshit.
>>2364301you can't be forced to pay your parents debts
>>2364345this is what i'm talking about. What made you think this was a coherent way to speak?
You people seem to exclusively communicate in incoherent sub-sentences. The thread these days reads consistently like a gaggle of ESLs larping at being english.
Why can't you just go back to being normal?
>>2364355landlords aren't the same thing as landbarons sureley? regardless, and not that I particularly agree with the rent trap (see: previous section on things that are downstream of housing surplus avoidance), I don't see why you can't be both.
the boomers got hoooked into the mortgage trap, so in turn pass it down-stream to forever renters. It all starts with the banks.
>>2364502when i say 'kier starmer's…' I don't literally mean Kier so much as I mean the Kier Starmer Labour Administration. A bureaucracy that moves at a snail's pace, and in all the wrong directions.
>>2364507I'm british but I wish I wasn't cuz you lot are fucking dysgenic
>>2364525we as the left wing could easily fix our problems if we
1. built council housing directly and ruthlessly invested in public works
2. distance from america, regulate multinats, tax the bourgeeoisie to shit, job guarantee
3. restarted freedom of movement in EU
>>2364549this is your brain on idealism man you aren't thinking like a materialist your brain is like
>uhhh but we share a language we're better togetherCulture is downstream from the economy you tool. I don't give a fuck about 'the west'.
>>2364566what the fuck are you talking about
>empiricism is correct, le 'west has fallen' is idealism? thats feudalism!!!You are literally incoherent.
>>2364582I'm not talking about you in particular, I was responding to a post where you said:
>>2364564>we actually have a history and it's not squeaky clean unlike your plastic potted plant pampered ass countrySo it was not directed at you singularly.
>>2364580Like every country on Earth came to grips with:
>You know what, fuck that guy>Why the fuck do I revere him as a godlike figure?It's so simple.
>>2364225>The people running this country have based our 'ecomony' on imaginary money on paper in the form of the housing marketYou may recall the specific woman who oversaw this was a prudish Churchill LARPer and Enoch Powell fan nostalgic for a version of England that never existed. What did you think you were getting when you asked for conservatism, the USSR?
But I suspect even she'd be surprised by your callous disregard for the lives of the old. Kill off granny and grandpa to free up a surplus of houses! (Can we build? No, bob, stop asking.) What pure socially conservative family values!
>>2364230Israel kills Arabs, and our rulers have never regarded Arabs as fully human. Saudis are half tolerable because if you slip them a little bribe they'll buy whatever meme jet BAE Systems are hawking this week, but Palestinians? They're all poor. Israel's getting lots of valuable military test data by slaughtering them, and we'll be able to put it into practice ourselves next time an illegal war is due. (Plus, no matter what we do, it's safe to say it won't be as much of a war crime as Israel did…)
>>2364498it's like one guy, although he posts a lot.
>>2364518"Relevance" is a stupid chimera that our leaders keep chasing. Britain should not be "relevant", Britain should be an irrelevant but nice to live in little island off the coast of Europe. As it stands, we think we're relevant because we're America's Muttley - but we're not. The special relationship is a one-way affair.
>>2364538New Zealand has basically the same GDP per capita and is a completely irrelevant country, yet it's regarded by many Britons as a sort of paradise. If Britain was a New Zealand of 60 million people that would be just fine - global relevance, financial metrics, immigration numbers (NZ population has nearly doubled since 1999!) and frankly even high politics (NZ exists in this post-neoliberal hellworld too) aren't quite the death sentence they seem.
(Naturally, NZ is an actually-existing non-paradise with its own problems, but it's safe to say it's also a substantially nicer and better run country. Admittedly, this is possibly because a population of 5 million people can't support a press as feral as ours - and unlike Scotland, it's not culturally colonized by one.)
>>2365585You're getting caught up in details instead of looking at the big picture: "Arabs" is largely a practical shorthand for "poor/middle income arabs" and "rich" is largely a practical shorthand for "imperial capitalist state". (why are they buying military jets, after all?)
If you really want to have fun with it: in this model, all those dead Iranians are "poor arabs" despite being Persian.
More than 400 media figures urge BBC board to remove Robbie Gibb over Gaza
>More than 400 stars and media figures including Miriam Margolyes, Alexei Sayle, Juliet Stevenson and Mike Leigh have signed a letter to BBC management calling for the removal of a board member, Robbie Gibb, over claims of conflict of interest regarding the Middle East.
>The signatories also include 111 BBC journalists and Zawe Ashton, Khalid Abdalla, Shola Mos-Shogbamimu and the historian William Dalrymple, who express “concerns over opaque editorial decisions and censorship at the BBC on the reporting of Israel/Palestine”.
>Delivered on the eve of Channel 4’s airing of the documentary Gaza: Doctors Under Attack, which the BBC commissioned but shelved as it said it “risked creating a perception of partiality”, the letter alleges the decision to drop the film “demonstrates, once again, that the BBC is not reporting ‘without fear or favour’ when it comes to Israel”.
>It also accuses the BBC of being “crippled by the fear of being perceived as critical of the Israeli government” and claims the “inconsistent manner in which guidance is applied draws into focus the role of Gibb, on the BBC Board and BBC’s editorial standards committee” as “we are concerned that an individual with close ties to the Jewish Chronicle … has a say in the BBC’s editorial decisions in any capacity, including the decision not to broadcast Gaza: Medics Under Fire”.
>>2363907summarising the stream:
- the left/right paradigm is theatre which obscures the elite paradigm (us vs "them").
- there is no such thing as bottom-up power (i.e. parvini's "populist delusion").
- the elites are internally conflicted, but externally united (class interest trumps all).
- the schmittian exception shows who is sovereign, which is the "five eyes" intelligence agencies (or "six points" including mossad). israel also proves its own exception by being the only country which is particularist amidst a compelled universalism. basically, only israel gets to be problematic without consequences.
- parvini suggests rather that israel is a frontier colony of the US like ukraine, so each are granted this conditional exception. S&C retort that israel is not the centre of jewish power; america is. there is no priority between the two thus.
- parvini suggests the expressly marxist idea of internal contradiction. S&C retort that there is no such thing as revolution, but only strategic regime change. S&C make the point that the expression of power is inherently exceptional, or contradictory however, so power cannot be corrupted from within, only from without. he uses the example of "international law"; israel may be international criminals, but who are the international law enforcers?
(then Q&A afterwards)
>>2365673Lucy is guilty bruv she literally wrote notes to herself at home admitting that she murdered those kids.
The senior staff are also getting arrested because Conservatives refuse to believe le pure white wimmen could ever commit a crime and raised a huge fuss over the trial. If an Arab or Muslim had committed these crimes they would have already been lynched.
>>2365694>Lucy is guilty bruvShut the fuck up faggot.
Even if she did it there was no evidence.
'statistical analysis' is no way to decide peoples guilt.
faggot retard booj toe licking cunt.
>>2365699the problem isn't that she was found guilty by statistical analysis, the problem is that she was found guilty with
incorrect statistical analysis (and, more generally, that most people are fucking terrible at statistics.)
>>2365710>I am saying she literally had hand written notes in her own HOUSE confessing her crimes.Yes. I know what you're saying.
We've already been through this though. Get a better argument or concede.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/02/reeves-in-tears-as-starmer-declines-to-confirm-she-will-remain-chancellorimagine being reduced to tears because your plans to starve the disabled have been slightly delayed
imagine being reduced to tears by
kemi badenoch >>2365735who's gonna replace her?
>>2365733>lol wutCan you not just use the report function? Must you engage the same mentally ill /pol/ack over nothing day-in-day-out here?
>>2365731whats interesting is that the arthurian legends begin by a suggestion of child sacrifice to appease the white and red dragons. its just in the anglo blood i suppose.
>>2365748an anarkiddy snitching? no way!
>>2365790>>2365787you are samefagging, aren't you?
Get a life for fucks sake.
>>2365803We
only got taught about Slavery. Which while impactful, is actually like, only a quarter of the British Empire's actual history. More time elapsed from the end of slavery to Suez than did from the discovery of Newfoundland to the end of slavery.
>>2365916Yeah hence why I compared it with English Mistery; it's inherently elitist. What I
don't understand about the project though, is why it is Separatist? I don't understand how creating a paralell society without engagement in political activism is meant to elevate "Zoomer Historian" into a position of power. In America it makes sense because the idea of a fascist-reactionary commune at the margins of state power is actually possible, but that is fundamentally antithetical to British geospatial politics (this btw is why anarchism as a movement never took off in Britain outside of urban areas deliberately abandoned by the police). Only idea I can think of is that they expect us to collapse into civil war in which this elite would take over? but if that is legit their plan they have got another thing coming lmao.
>>2365953Kinda ironic because it appears the rest of their organisational modus operandi is quite canny. Focusing on "grass touching" is a great way to build organic solidarity between members and further recruit (especially since a lot of their demographic appears to be undersocialised young men, why not bring them in through socialisation!). The rest of their media strategy also appears to be pretty sound. You can see a lot of Patriot Alternative's praxis here but without a lot of the flaws (personalism, trying to reconcile zionist boomers with crypto nazi teens, over centralisation). I guess it is an inherent flaw with these elitist groups is that they dont view mass politics as worth engaging in inherently; despite the fact that outside of a military coup it is their only path to power.
(btw when I said "they've got another thing coming", in the outcome of a civil war the reactionaries would quickly be taken over by a military-aristocratic clique of the old type, and would disregard these ideologues like how Franco shot the falangists).
>>2366060in the discussion, one of the MPs hinted that there were some reports regarding intelligence that couldn't be shared in public.
With the attack on Iran by the US based on phoney intelligence reports cooked up by the mossad, I'm wondering if the orders to proscribe it came from elsewhere.
>>2366139Some of them already are, and they're calling the new grouping "Yvette Cooper" after the home secretary that introduced the proposed ban against them.
Obviously with the intent of drawing headlines by forcing her to ban herself.
Would this have worked if it was like 6 years ago?
Jeremy Corbyn hints at launch of new party as leftwing alternative to Labour
Jeremy Corbyn has hinted he could launch a political party alongside other leftwing independent MPs in an attempt to offer “an alternative” to Labour, before the next general election.
Speaking on ITV’s Peston programme, the former Labour leader confirmed discussions were under way among the Independent Alliance group of MPs that he co-founded last year.
Asked directly whether they were preparing to form a new party, Corbyn did not rule it out. “That grouping [of independents] will come together, there will be an alternative,” he said.
The Independent Alliance includes four other independent MPs who all beat Labour candidates and MPs over the party’s position on Gaza. The group has the same number of MPs as Reform UK and the Democratic Unionist party, which each have five, and more than the Green party and Plaid Cymru on four.
Corbyn, who sits as an independent after he was suspended by Keir Starmer in 2020, has long hinted at plans to create a vehicle for socialist policies and pro-Palestinian campaigning. But until now he has not openly suggested a party launch before polling day.
The move could dismantle the left-of-centre vote and present a headache for Starmer, who has repositioned Labour in the political centre.
Corbyn’s group includes Shockat Adam, the MP for Leicester South; Ayoub Khan, the MP for Birmingham Perry Barr; Adnan Hussain the MP for Blackburn, and autism scorebal Mohamed, the MP for Dewsbury and Batley.
Corbyn said any new party would focus on poverty, inequality and a foreign policy “that’s based on peace rather than war”. Asked if he would lead the party, he added: “I’m here to work – I’m here to serve the people in the way I’ve always tried to do.”
“The Alliance group of MPs has worked very hard and very well together over the past year in parliament, and we’re coming up to our first anniversary,” Corbyn said.
>>2368107Speculation but he'd have to drop a lot of stuff he holds dear. Greens are a pro NATO party.
Corbyn is big on developments, he's a build, build, build guy.
Greens unironically believe that the way forward for british farming and food security is that it's not realistic or desirable and we should strive towards small de-industrialized artisan farms.
Corbyn was IIRC against sanctions-diplomacy, Greens advocate for even tougher uses of economic sanctions.
>Sir Keir Starmer could be ousted as PM within months, two senior Labour MPs tell Sky Newshttps://news.sky.com/story/starmer-put-on-notice-and-may-have-to-step-down-as-leader-within-months-13391677Paddy Power are offering 5/1 odds on sir kier being replaced as leader this year
25.00 pounds > returns of 150.00
BBC documentary on immigration in the UK [PART 1].
some takeaways:
- immigration by blair was promoted to fill in vacancies for unskilled labour (1997)
- asylum seeking tripled after 21st century imperialism by the west (2001)
- migrants were illegally entering from calais by train or truck to claim asylum
- economic disincentives had a negative correlation to migration (2003)
- immigration was permitted for new EU and NATO members from eastern europe, to fill in 650,000 job vacancies (2005)
- EU migration increases by 130,000 (2005)
- immigration becomes a public issue
- reports show an increase of wealth due to migrant labour, but also a strain on public services and housing (2007)
- gordon brown emphasises "british" jobs at labour conference, which conflicted with european law (2007)
- the tories (leader, david cameron) accuse gordon brown of borrowing slogans from the national front and the BNP (2007)
- BNP gain voters based on immigration
- during the great recession, companies are hit with strikes over the employment of foreign labour, over british labour (2008)
- the BNP gain 2 MEP seats (2009)
- the tories propose a limit on migration, with "migrant watch" figures of 100k (2009)
- gordon brown is caught calling a concerned voter a "bigot" which contributes to a hung parliament. brown resigns and we have the coalition (2009)
- economists advised against limits on immigration for the sake of "growth".
- despite the pledge on limits, the government provided its own exemptions to immigration, citing "economic growth". net migration was at rates of 250k (2010-)
conclusion: immigration is centrally tied to the economy; a divestment from british labour leads to an importation of foreign labour, which leads to disruptions of the job market, ethnic tensions and crime. a solution to immigration issues would then be to invest in british labour and industry.
In England, Parents Are Moving Their Children Into a Doomsday Cult—With a Man Calling Himself ‘the New Pope’
The Ahmadi Religion of Peace and Light—and its leader, Abdullah Hashem—are converting thousands into believers from an old orphange in Crewe.
According to Islamic legend, a messianic figure known as the Mahdi will appear before Judgement Day to vanquish injustice and tyranny, and usher in an era of peace across the world before the apocalypse. Abdullah Hashem, a beanie-wearing American-Egyptian running what can only be described as a quasi-Islamic doomsday cult based out of a former orphanage in the north of England, claims to be that Mahdi, and for good measure “the new Pope.” If you want to join him, you’ll have to cash in your home and give him all your money.
“We are looking for people who are willing to sell their homes and to come and be amongst the community and to follow me, [and to] not waver or want to leave once they’ve come,” Hashem says in one piece of in-house propaganda from earlier this year, wearing his black beanie so low it casts a dark shadow over his eyes. More bluntly, he compares himself to Jesus and says he wants people that will “love” him and be willing to “sacrifice it all to establish a divine, just state.”
His organization is called the Ahmadi Religion of Peace and Light, or AROPL for short. It’s a doomsday cult for the social media age, with members likely running into thousands worldwide. The organization is flooding the internet with an avalanche of slickly produced yet chilling content from a ramshackle broadcast studio based out of its Grade II-listed red brick mansion in Crewe, Cheshire, 35 miles from Manchester. “Accepting this covenant is the only thing that will save you from the punishment that is about to come down on mankind,” Hashem said late last year. “COVID was merely the beginning of that punishment and a precursor. More plagues and diseases will be unearthed and unleashed upon you.”
“I was told I was the reincarnated Zeus,” a former member who left AROPL last year told VICE. “When I visited them in Sweden, there was a miracle of thunder.”
Over the span of a decade, he sent Hashem all the money he could to support the cause, opening additional businesses and even taking out a bank loan for more than $200,000. “I needed to trust in whatever he was doing,” the ex-devotee recalls
https://www.vice.com/en/article/aropl-doomsday-cult-abdullah-hashem-england-rotherham/>>2368554So are all the indi Gaza-vote MP's going to join? It would be in their interests to if they'd like to stay in parliament so i'd suspect.
How over is it going to be for Starmer? Is anyone going to leave? Will Abott and Mcdonald cross the benches?
I wonder what the Greens will do. They have to form an electoral alliance at least with the new party.
>>2368834Based. I don’t doubt Corbyn’s new party will have some problems but it is better off being in it and doing nothing.
>>2368648the sikhs have always been british loyalists. thinking they compare to muslims because they are brown shows your philistine attitude. india and pakistan are always on the brink of war. the partition was necessary.
>>2369668in the words of trump, we should deport some of our own as well. it would make things fairer.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-brings-idea-deporting-us-citizens-crimes/story?id=123385213 >>2369668>he sikhs have always been british loyalists. thinking they compare to muslims because they are brown shows your philistine attitude. india and pakistan are always on the brink of war. the partition was necessary.1) You are nowhere near as intelligent as you think you are
2) saw plenty of footage of EDL thugs attacking Sikhs last Summer. As I said the rioters won't spare them, no matter how much they flag shag.
>>2369738am i acting "intelligent"? its just a fact. sikhs will flag shag, but muslims will not. its a distinct cultural contradiction.
>EDL thugshopefully the london youfs and white lumpen hoards can annihilate each other this year. it would bring a bit of peace for everyone else in the near future.
>>2368709Yup, she's an idiot for pulling such a move, though I am somewhat sympathetic, considering what
>>2368732 said about Corbyn dragging his feet on the idea for so long
>>2368692I have seen now a lots of tweets claiming the same and gloating, but they all go back to this one as their source. There is still no evidence of this aside from this account claiming it.
>>2369774>Yup, she's an idiot for pulling such a moveSee above.
https://nitter.aishiteiru.moe/itvpeston/status/1940521491784679934<"That grouping [of Independents] will come together, there will be an alternative"<Ex Labour Leader @jeremycorbyn says he is "here to serve the people" as he outlines plans for a new party >>2369765Did this cunt just rob the towns supply of cheap fags?
What a cunt jfc. Never pay your licence fee.
>>2370419https://communist.red/an-open-letter-to-jeremy-corbyn-and-zarah-sultana/ here.
Horrible design and layout btw. Every fucker who for years whined about 'wa waa y are all the sites ollldd looking? why can't the left have MODERN sites?' This is the modern website. You're welcome.
>>2370390Not per se, but their involvement in the talks is telling, as is them now publishing an article calling about the need for an anti-austerity, anti-capitalist, anti-zionist programme rather than having a clear programme themselves and pre-emptively trashing Corbyn and his ilk as ineffectual reformists.
Ultimately despite the rebrand the RCP is still Alan Woods and the tradition of Militant and Ted Grant. They've been entryists in Labour or any other socdem party around the world for decades. Corbyn being booted and Starmer swerving the party right may have shaken them into declaring themselves revolutionary communists for the past two years but old habits die hard and I wouldn't be all that surprised if they ditch it all for a the smallest taste of institutional power, such as it would be, in a Corbyn-led broad left party as some sort of faction.
>>2367930>>2368554A populist politician who, after a failed campaign in which he blames the Labour Party establishment, launches a new party amid allegations of anti-semitism? That sounds a little famil—oh.
Jokes aside, best of luck, Brits.
>>2370444Nice trips
And I ain't actually saying Corbyn is the new Mosley, I just thought it was a funny historical parallel. But if I know anything at all about the British press, or at least how it's been described to me by Brits, chances are they'll portray the Mosley comparisons seriously.
>>2369897vegan BLASTARRD
respect for reading things through, though.
>>2370557What? I'm just saying the Marxist stance on social-fascists. Anyway I didn't know Maoism was invented in 1917.
>>2370592The RCP? Do you actually know anything about them? They have good aesthetics and larp and that is it.
>>2370586The name is gonna end up being shit. We can meme it into having good aesthetics tho. If the logo is shit we design a good one and proliferate it.
We BETTER have good fucking flags they need to be EVERYWHERE.
I am going to be real comrades, I am not optimistic about socialism in this country. The class basis of even Wilsonian Social Democracy is long dead. A new one relies on classes that do not command a majority of society (tenants, foreign-born precariat, downward mobile PMC, underemployed service workers). This new electoral formation is nowhere near winning a majority, and if it did the state is so horrendously powerful it woul dbe neutralised within 6 months. On the flip side, the public's appetite is for reactionary violence, not socialist revolution; the liberals could Luxembourg us and nobody would care to stop them (most would join in). We do not have street infrastructure, there are no "Red Neighbourhoods", there are entire towns of 10,000s where there isn't a single socialist organisation, and there is no organic union militancy. The place here there is growing militancy is the tenant movement; and that is geographically constrained to certain pockets.
On top of this the state is engaging in represion based on Palestinian Activism which while not universally popular; is not really an issue the public care to put themselves on the line for. Mass arrests for supporting Palestine action will not generate resistance outside of areas with substantial muslim/arab populations. That is not the basis of a mass movement in a european nation-state.
Still I do not despair. I do not think we will win, but to fight in an era of darkness is to bring light to the void. Just because one cannot build a city does not mean it isn't worth building a house. Maybe in 5-10 years we will have restored the social infrastructure of the militant working class that defined this country for a century. Maybe we can improve our lives somewhat. That is worth it.
This is incoherent babble but it is real.
>>2371523 (me)
Sorry this was tasteless. What was I thinking!? Should have used Comic Sans.
An 83-year-old priest and a human rights lawyer were among around 25 people arrested for holding signs saying “I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action” in Parliament Square today.
The action, by protest group Defend Our Juries, was the first organised challenge to the proscription of Palestine Action, which came into effect at 00.01 this morning.
This is the first time a non-violent, direct action group has been designated a terrorist organisation in the UK.
In an open letter sent to Met police commissioner Mark Rowley on Friday, Defend Our Juries outlined its plans. “We would like to alert you to the fact we may be committing offences under the Terrorism Act tomorrow, Saturday 5 July, in Parliament Square at about 1pm,” it said.
It portrayed the action - which it said would be nonviolent and pose “no risk whatsoever of anyone being harmed” - as both a challenge to the ban and a test of how it will be enforced.
“If we cannot speak freely about the genocide that is occurring, if we cannot condemn those who are complicit in it and express support for those who resist it, then the right to freedom of expression has no meaning, and democracy and human rights in this country are dead,” it said.
Reverend Sue Parfitt, 83, told Novara Media the group was “testing the law”. She said she wasn’t afraid of being arrested. “I know that we are in the right place doing the right thing,” she said. “As my friend Ruth always says, ‘we cannot be bystanders’.”
Minutes later, police began making arrests.
Palestine Action applied to pause the ban in the high court yesterday, but lost both a hearing and an appeal shortly afterwards.
Speaking to the Guardian on Friday, Raza Husain KC, representing Palestine Action founder Huda Ammori, described the decision as “an ill-considered, discriminatory and authoritarian abuse of statutory power”.
>>2372049well, yeah
the fuck are we conserving by having indian leaders?
>>2372149?
so labour are what? Communists?
shut up you dull turd
>>2372154but they are also 'left wing'? no?
riddle me this, are reform a bunch of horrible racialists that must be stopped?
>>2372054did the UK bomb albania or pakistan?
>In 2022, around 16,000 Albanian citizens applied for asylum in the UK, making up 16% of all asylum applicants.https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/commentaries/albanian-asylum-seekers-in-the-uk-and-eu-a-look-at-recent-data/>In 2024, the most common origin region of asylum seekers was Asia and the most common single nationality was Pakistanhttps://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn01403/>migrants are just following where their wealth went🤣 britain isnt the cradle of the industrial revolution or anything; we just stole stuff from other continents, i forgot. its not as if tony blair and dick cheney had shares in oil companies before invading iraq; all of britain is guilty, not the ruling class. and since the migrants are just following their stolen money, why dont you see them in rich neighbourhoods? curious.
>>2372184iraqis do not nearly represent a majority of refugees entering the UK. you like to generalise them as "brown people" though, so i see your confusion as to why things arent so linear. what great wealth of albania did we usurp before they came over here?
>>2372202i have irish blood so am genetically disposed to incest (the irish red hair is a recessive gene expressed by incest). i am also "black irish" (irish person with dull features such as black hair). i am basically BAME therefore, and i also live in the norf, so am underclass.
>>2372215fr.
>>2372184bullshit
regardless, you're on the path of 'they are here out of spite' which doesn't end well for you.
>>2372181>>"how can i be racist? i have black friends"let's just assume that I am a racist, and conservative, is there any party I can vote for to represent me?
[spoiler]no[/spoiler]
>>2372372>ther is a reason the concept of left vs right has survivedyeah it's called 'divide & conquer'
it's why they wheel out farrage any time there is too much of a conservative uprising.
>>2372378the reactionaries?
I don't follow
>>2372383/pol tier response that mate, so I will return one.
Not an argument.
>>2372390zealot
/ˈzɛlət/
noun
plural noun: zealots; plural noun: Zealots
1.
a person who is fanatical and uncompromising in pursuit of their religious, political, or other ideals.
ok so that's all of them then
>>2372398bit slow on the uptake
when does he think this happened?
>>2372417you responded with an emoji
shut the fuck up
:D
>>2372375>yeah it's called 'divide & conquer'lol
This line would hit harder if it didn't date back to the 1920s mate.
>>2372612>it's not even a political mechanism, it's just straight social engineeringIncoherent statement.
>>2372622Likewise.
>>2372641what's unclear about that?
It's just basic bitch playing the room.
It's like when you need to fart, so you do it just as you get out the door. Or when there's the last piece of quiche that no-on wants to finish off.
>>2372357im sure there are some marginal parties outside the overton window, but theyre not going to be in power. its like asking if theres a party which will reverse gay marriage legalisation. 10 years ago probably, but not anymore. now, gay conservatives david starkey and douglas murray lead the reactionary right, just like how in another decade, trans women will be at the frontlines of "traditional british values". the right loses because it wants to be popular, rather than effective in its mission to slow down time, or whatever. some interesting figures of a contrary movement, the "radical" or nietzschean right, included jonathan bowden, who was friends with richard spencer. in this view, there is at least a more historical concern with christianity and its explicit universalism. founder of NRx curtis yarvin also sees how leftism grows out of christian soil and attempts to be more "traditional" in his outlook. alain de benoist is another figure, who while being a metaphysical conservative, at least begins his critique by deconstructing individualism ("national anarchism" as a milieu also attempts this). so i would look into that. we live in a liberal age, which codefies its own values as "traditional". this is a post-historical society which we must endure for the moment.
>>2372653It's like asking if your favourite magic granddad commie cunt just started his own political party.
Stop posting, you're boring and embarrassing.
>>2363951>academic agent, or his real name, "neema parvini"The guy that "debated" Jack Angstreich on the Labour Theory of Value by Marx years ago? And he didn't kill himself right after that?
For those who weren't there: AA claimed to know Marx inside out and to have written several books debunking him. He agreed to a debate about the LTV. Then after the "debate" his statement about knowing all three volumes of Capital plus other stuff by Marx shrank to a claim about having read one book about the three volumes.
>>2365904>https://leftfootforward.org/2025/06/basketweavers-exposed-a-far-right-group-plotting-to-overturn-democracy/<Parvina was reportedly ‘let go’ (as the euphemism has it) from the University of Surrey due to his far-right activism, including tweeting that “blacks are closer to homo erectus” and that black and white people are “different species.” He is currently though, an honorary research fellow at the private University of Buckingham.Christ.
>>2372679yes i saw that "debate". what stuck out to me was his bafflingly childish tantrum where he said "i dont fucking care about what marx said", even though that was the topic of discussion. he also hesitatingly declined to define marx's formula for the value of commodities (V = c + v + s) despite being an expert. he also said that the basis of production in an economy is "knowledge", so he claimed that the more you "know" the higher your salary would be. of course, what he meant to say was that skilled *labour* is paid more than unskilled labour, which is self-evident, and marx even justified this paradigm on the basis of labour power. he appeared completely out of his depth, so its no wonder that in his economic courses, he has never formally debunked marx's analysis, or even approached the classical school with any rigour. in another video i watched, he also appeared clueless about basic keynesian terms, so he is just another austrian cultist who stays in his bubble.
we can see in this video for example:
https://youtu.be/fWDn1-dyXDgthat he is not just reproducing the barter myth, but also completely de-historicising it. this is awful economic discourse, confined to unsourced know-it-alls.
>>2373555Have you noticed how many British Jews hold loyalty to Israel even though they were born here and their families have lived in this country for generations? They seem to view Britain as an entity only to be subverted to aid the interests of the Israeli state.
One could see value in pursuing policies which address British Jews as a foreign element - rather than as citizens equal to the rest of us who do not have another 'homeland' we hold allegiance to.
>>2373616Rhodesia is a good example.
The Zimbabwean government dealt with their white problem by passing laws to restrict the economic activity of whites and expropriated their assets with no compensation. Simultaneously they armed militias to harass white people in their homes. This resulted in the population of whites in Zimbabwe decreasing by over 90%! It's also important to note that very few were killed during this process, it was about creating a hostile environment which forced the once-occupiers to leave.
>>2373641the same reason I think its okay to have blacks live here
by your standards there should be no blacks or whites in america
>>2372679This guy was a uni teacher?
That's embarrassing for ivory tower bobo cunts. Imagine getting in debt to learn off this trog.
>>2373676>Corbyn should have been consulted beforehand, He was. The person who took that line otherwise to the media was seething because they lost a vote.
Novara spoke about it on friday, T:3:35:
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I ran into JC at the Durham Miners' Gala last year and I will probs do so again this year; if I see him I am going to bully him into starting the party.
>>2374496Reform isn't a Farage cult, it's just Farage was the only person in that party that had any personality.
Also the worker party has expressed support for this new DemSoc party, so who knows. The worker party might be considered way too socially conservative for younger voters.
>>2375724>the greensannoying this new party was announced the day after a eco-socialist caucus was announced but I doubt that was going to go anywhere
>the workers partyalready issued interest in supporting with the new party
>>2375746It's so funny to see "nationalists" and "christians" assert , with clear signs of dissonance, that their priorities lie with God's
real chosen people, not themselves or any identity they may subscribe to. Meaning "Jews" and Israel and those groups should have priority on policy over everything.
Imagine playing rightoid tough guy your entire life and then being handed the big book of
literal Goyslop by your Israeli handlers and told to debase yourself for the next few decades in front of the cameras.
<You are now the Goy Jester.<Your role is to foment antisemitism and self hatred among the dumbest people alive<So we can use that later into Oil/trade wars in a few years <And to subsidize the way of life of the Jewish masterrace colony>Go on, Jester, rile them up good. >>2375902Any Marxist will tell you a real transformation of society happens after a revolution but there needs to be a major crisis for this to even be possible
So participating in electoral politics, and supporting demsocs if necessary, is the best we have for now
>>2375902The entire british left is downstream of Stalin penning the British road to socialism and putting the idea that we'll achieve socialism through a succession of increasingly left-wing labour governments in everyone's brains.
Whether you're a CPB dengist or a RCP militant fanboy you're for the parliamentary reformist road.
>>2376052better than nothing
better than voting labour non-stop, since they're dead now
the demsoc movement is the biggest thing we have since the death of the USSR/CPGB
>>2376137The way to handle it is simple:
Do you think we should Rejoin?
Join the Greens.
Do you hate the idea of a Customs Union?
Join the WPB
Can you not stand being in a party with people who are vaugely TERFy (CPB)?
Join the Greens.
Do you think Gay Marriage was a mistake?
Join the WPB.
People who want to put these issues ahead of anything else should be channeled into these respective orgs. it literally helps everyone in the end.
>>2376458 (me)
Just about the only good thing that will come out of this is the:
NO REFUNDSmemes.
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