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Previous thread: >>2177902

Dump all the seemingly pointless, dubious, and frivolous questions that don't deserve their own shitty threads.

Got a question that's probably been asked a million times before? You're in the right landfill, buddy. Post it here.

Threads that otherwise might go in here will eventually find themselves become merged to this thread.
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Are transwahmen the ones responsible for omegaverse?

>>2550973
If you can afford to quit you are not a proletarian, simple as

>>2551017
>>2551750
How about disabled people? Can they join the working class club?

>>2551746
That's a fujoshi invention

>>2551764
Everyone is disabled. What you mean by disabled are probably unemployable people whom porkies couldnt find a way to exploit. They are lumpens


>>2551770
Yeah? So a boss bitch futa mpregging men is fujoshi stuff huh?

>>2551773
Makes sense. Thanks.

>>2551775
You have no idea how deep the rabbit hole goes

Are TERFs our friends or enemies?

>>2551786
Terfs are irrelevant.

>>2551786
Depends on your position towards trans people, they have good arguments thoughever

>>2551783
You would know wouldnt you? You must be a transwahman

>>2551795
For example?

>>2551797
Biology difference between man and woman, that even with hormonal therapy a trans person can't fully be the sex they affirm to be, there's a gap that as of right now, a trans person can't bridge fully.

>>2551799
This isnt satisfying. I need a theory that says transwahmen are actually reactionary and are danger to communism.

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Would a remote-control jet plane with a camera and a large serrated blade/spike on the end of it make for a good assassination weapon? No tricky detonation systems or messy explosions killing random bystandards, just fly the thing right into the target's body at 500 mph? How would someone defend against a thing like this?

>>2551921
the pentagon is way ahead of you

How Trotskyist is this book? It was edited by the Salvage Collective, which was founded partly by former members of the SWP. Is it worth picking up a physical copy of? Thanks.

>>2395252
but most communists weren't nobles, like Felix Zherzhinsky, or educated, like Lenin, many were just proles like Stalin, who also got exiled. Why exile people like Stalin who have no rank in society instead of execute them?

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>>2551921
>>2552051
The R9X does detonate and does have messy explosions killing random people though…

>>2561097
Why do american missles hit middle east people? Is america at war with them?

>>2561162
>Why do american missles hit middle east people? Is america at war with them?
America thanks to our military industrial complex is at war with any non-nuclear armed nation that disobeys us (I use “us” when referring to America sometimes since I live here if you couldn’t tell) as the sole global hegemonic superpower, this includes not privatizing your country’s oil when we want you to, and if you refuse we bomb the country until they surrender their sovereignty and become a vassal state. The only way you can get around this is to get nukes which America will also try to stop you from doing.

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Can someone red pill me on Lasallean socialism? He seems philosophically better than Marx who is fighting against wind mills with his utopian approach to socialism.

>>2561097
Holy shit

>>2552051

I'm talking more something low-tech, that some guerilla terrorist group could build with an RC jet plane hobby kit or something and fly it right up someone's ass 100 miles away by remote control.

Where's the homofash thread? I have things to discuss

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what would "abolition of the distinction between town and country" (first mentioned in chapter 2 of the communist manifesto) actually look like in practice?

>>2562412
>Can someone red pill me on Lasallean socialism? He seems philosophically better than Marx who is fighting against wind mills with his utopian approach to socialism.
This is bait, right? Marx's entire point is that Owenism, Fourierism, Saint-Simonism, and finally Lassalleanism were all forms of utopian socialism. He and Engels were trying to move past that with scientific socialism. That's the redpill. Marx ruthlessly critiques Lassalle in Critique of the Gotha Programme. Marx especially critiques Lassalle's conception of redistribution:

>[Marx] objects to the demand that workers should receive the "undiminished proceeds of their labour", arguing that this showed a disregard for the practical necessities of a future communist society. Marx contended that a significant portion of the social product would need to be deducted before distribution to individual workers. These deductions would include funds for the replacement and expansion of the means of production, a reserve fund for insurance against accidents, and the costs of administering social services like schools and health services, as well as provisions for those unable to work. He states that in a communist society, the concept of "proceeds of labour" would lose its meaning, as producers would not exchange their products. Instead, individual labour would exist directly as a component of total labour, not mediated through exchange value, because abstract labour would be abolished.

>>2564242
kek, living the dream

What happened to brazil?

>>2564242
hes really scratching at the rural/urban divide that tends to manifest politically - they would no longer be alienated from one another ideologically.

Any sweet message ideas for my holiday cards this year?

>>2564354
idk he seems to be talking more physical since he literally says a more equal distribution across the country

>>2564352
>What happened to brazil?

Brazil’s geological story begins over 200 million years ago, when the land that would become South America was fused with Africa and other landmasses in the supercontinent Pangaea. As Pangaea started breaking apart in the Mesozoic Era, rifts opened between the future continents, and by about 120–130 million years ago South America and Africa fully separated, forming the South Atlantic Ocean; Brazil’s eastern coastline still mirrors the bulge of West Africa as evidence of this split. Over millions of years, Brazil’s terrain developed ancient shield regions, vast river systems like the Amazon, and rich biodiversity. Human presence began thousands of years ago with Indigenous peoples who established diverse cultures across the region. In 1500, Portuguese explorers arrived, initiating centuries of colonization, resource extraction, and the forced labor of Indigenous peoples and millions of enslaved Africans. Brazil remained a Portuguese colony until 1822, when it declared independence and became an empire, later transitioning to a republic in 1889. The 20th century saw periods of political instability, dictatorship, industrialization, and urban growth. Since the return to democracy in 1985, Brazil has evolved into a large, diverse nation with significant cultural influence, economic potential, and ongoing social and political challenges.

>>2564436

The poor rural, rich urban divide isnt universal though - it seems to change, sometimes you have rich rural, poor urban dynamics and sometimes you have the inverse.

Its reminding me of how in the DPRK politicians are required to work in rural areas for at least a decade if they want to hold high positions of office, I think they took this marx quote and tried to put it into practice.

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>>2564451
> I think they took this marx quote and tried to put it into practice.
That's true. 20x10 Policy for Local Development seeks to build up the countryside.

>>2564451
no he means like actual distribution of people, not just wealth
>a more equal distribution of the populace over the country
i.e a more uniform density of people, wherever possible

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>>2564487
>201x251 thumbnail
i wanna see the version i can read

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>>2564497
I learned about this from here

>>2564547
i recentlyish read some cringe anti-DPRK piece in the guardian from years ago, but it said this which made me laugh:
>Contrary to conventional wisdom, many students actually enjoy being sent away to the countryside to participate in compulsory agricultural labour: though it infuriates parents to see their children being taken away from the lecture hall to do menial work far away from home, the students themselves use it as an opportunity to party every night and meet members of the opposite sex.
Based party in the countryside. Dancing and getting drunk on potato wine!

How to explain the concept of exploitation via the extraction of surplus value as source of profit in layman's terms.

>>2564730
>How to explain the concept of exploitation via the extraction of surplus value as source of profit in layman's terms.

>>2564730
>You work and create things that are worth more than your wage.
>The boss pays you less than the value you create.
>????
>The boss keeps the rest as PROFIT.

>>2564246
>This is bait, right?
Yes and no. I’m genuinely interested in how Marxists view him and this was just a method of getting that insight.

>>2564730
>exploitation via the extraction of surplus value as source of profit
But.
It's the price the worker must pay for having a job. The job is value. If you own a bakery and pay the worker the full value for every bread he bakes, you can't buy intrigents, an oven and everything else you need to run a bakerery. You need a minimum of profit to keep it running, don't you?

>>2565345
>If you own a bakery and pay the worker the full value for every bread he bakes, you can't buy intrigents, an oven and everything else you need to run a bakerery.
Right.
>You need a minimum of profit to keep it running, don't you?
Profit isn't sales minus wages. Regular business expenditures are not defined as something that is deducted from profit, rather profit is what remains after these expenditures. Saying "I regularly buy ingredients for my bakery from my profits running the bakery" would be an abuse of language to any accountant, Marxist, and (I hope) most people in general. On the other hand saying "I put my profits into expanding my business" or "I put my profits into a new project" is normal language. The difference is what you really have to do to just keep going and what you don't need to do but choose. The boundary between these two cases can get blurry at times.

Is it possible to be anti-imperialist but at the same time not care about nationalism liberalism movements as these have very little to do with socialism?


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