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Not reporting is bourgeois


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>>2410005
Now I truly understand the meaning of the word 'simple-minded'.

Islamic separatists will blow up belt 'n road in 3 hours.

>>2410097
Truly the mark of a strong position is having to resort to posting nonsense like that.

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>>2410097
Are the nuclear reactors and vehicles sent to Israel part of the Chinese Communist commodity aid to Palestine?
>>2409917
>This is the same logic that allows liberals to pretend that Nazi Germany and the USSR were ACTUALLY on the same side all along and that if ONLY the USSR had just cut the Germans off MAYBE Poland and France could've been saved.
I'm not going to argue that France and Poland could have been saved, but the Soviet Union definitely helped the Germany army by supplying it with grain, oil and various metals, and is probably one of the bigger stains on the legacy of the USSR.

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>>2410126
I wonder what Israel does with its nuclear research reactors…

>>2410148
Anon there's a huge difference between simply using third parties as logistical tools to get weapons to their intended recipient, and selling to third parties without any knowledge or intention of where they go afterwards. Iran arms Hamas in the sense that they procure arms and set up logistical networks for the express purpose of getting those weapons into Gaza. They probably use intermediaries to get them there, but the point is they are deliberately working to make sure Hamas has weapons. Is there any indication at all that China is doing the same thing?

>>2410146
>>2410126
Also, how does this help Palestine?

>>2410151
I think that's likely insofar as Iran buys Chinese weapons and then gives them to Hamas. However that's just China selling weapons to Iran and then not caring where they end up after, which is different than deliberately working to make sure Hamas gets them. If China wasn't selling to Iran then Iran would get them elsewhere, and if Iran wasn't funneling them to Hamas then no Chinese weapons would end up in Gaza.

>>2410154
Is the US fighting against imperialism if, say, weapons sent to Ukraine eventually find themselves on the black market and are bought by anti-imperialist armed groups?

>>2410155
The situation with Iran is not the same is it? You can have a pretty clear and direct understanding where Iran's arms will be used and why because of their geopolitical position. That's different than your hypothetical scenario about imaginary anti imperialist orgs getting guns from le black market

>>2410154
>So why do you insist on their non-support?
Because they aren't supporting them, Iran is. China doesnt care where these weapons end up because they dont care about the outcome of the conflict. China also sells weapons to pro-Zionist forces, like when they were selling military drones to the UAE that were being used in Yemen. China's problem is that they don't take sides, they sell and deal with all comers, which can sometimes provide relief to progressive forces but its hard to say it has a net positive impact when they provide the same services to reactionary ones. Neutrality isn't support.

All proxy wars in the cold war didn't happen because no party delivered weapons with an official WeaponDeliveryPlane™.

Theres a secret dengist factory under gaza that produces all those weapons.

>>2410216
Disprove it.
Protip:You can't
I am not saying (NB) that it is this way or the other way.
I am saying speculating is unproductive and I suspect some not too clean motives (won't somebody think of the palestinian children, China throwing itself against the hegemon, no holds barred would be a whole different level of escalation, but that is of course a whole different can of worms) with most of these statements.

What has iran officially requested china do, that china isn't doing?
What has palestine officially requested china do, that china isn't doing?

>>2410255
>What has iran officially requested china do, that china isn't doing?
iran for some reason doesn't like asking for help
>What has palestine officially requested china do, that china isn't doing?
nothing really, China does what it can. though Id say the dprk has more maneuverability and freedom to roll up their sleeves and get to work, most of the tunnels in gaza were built with their expertise

>>2410164
UAE missle forces are made up of chinese dongfengs, or whatever they are called

>>2410102
>still not answering the question
Ok but what country are you criticizing China from and what efforts have you made to boycott Israel in your own country and is your country the country supplying more weapons to Israel than all other countries combined?

>>2410255
you don't understand, it's not about china, iran, or palestine. it's about the americans who come in here and demand that china stop selling labubus to israel as if that will create a difference in israel's ability to commit genocide when the USA sells more weapons to Israel than all other countries combined (in addition to just giving them shit for free)

>>2410255
>>The Palestinian resistance movement Hamas called on the Arab League and the broader international community to urgently intervene to halt the ongoing genocide in the Gaza Strip and to impose sanctions on the fascist Israeli occupation.

Man who cares china will do a socialism in one country and shit. No need for global international revolution. Chinese people have no moral obligation to the rest of the world

Brian Becker and Ken Hammond investigate the question all important for the w*stern left: "but is it really socialism tho"
Of course, the thumbnail feels a little misleading (I guess they do drift into clickbait on occasion). It's Breakthrough News. This ain't your mom's e-celeb or "breadtuber".

>>2410426
I'm sure China can reverse global warming on their own.

>>2410508
I listened to this yesterday it was quite interesting. I'd like to know the scale of the marxist learning groups he referenced, although he may have mentioned it and i forgot.

>>2410101
Nope the uyghurs will stay in re-education camps no matter how much you screech.

Sorry jungle trot, but,
>the investment in the 3rd world's needed development WILL CONTINUE.
>the transcending of the dogmatic planned economic model WIL CONTINUE.
>the civilizing of backwards people's WILL CONTINUE.
>the drive for reunification will CONTINUE.
>the valuing of traditional Chinese culture and its civilization will CONTINUE
>the crushing of the ethnonationalist separatist freaks WILL CONTINUE.

>>2410355
crickets

>>2410508
>>2410904
"china is only opening new marxist schools so they can teach the revisionist idea that conservative confucian capitalism is communism"

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>>2411845
Brave and controversial take

Watch Forgotten Weapons on the history of Chinese small arms

>>2410355
>still not answering the question
The question is an attempt to distract from the point, and make the absurd implication that I, an individual in a Western country, ought to somehow be accomplishing more for Palestine than superpower which claims to be socialist and anti-imperialist.
>Ok but what country are you criticizing China from
Canada
>what efforts have you made to boycott Israel in your own country
I've been involved with numerous demonstrations and helped set up and run an encampment that successfully got the local uni to divest from Israel.
>is your country the country supplying more weapons to Israel than all other countries combined?
No.

>>2411862
>No
Not yet. But when you become the 51st state it will be practically, technically and spiritually true.

>>2410888
There is no reversing it. We are past that point

>>2411862
>Canadian
please invade the USA. my people yearn for freedom. i keep asking Xi Jinping but he won't do it so now I am reduced to begging the Red Leaf

>>2411870
No one's coming to save you. This is it.
Me neither, I am sitting here in europe, just watching on in dismay (why couldn't I have been born chinese).
However, here maybe your best hope actually lies with JDPON Don (formerly Don the Con). Now that the US bourgeois class has started formally sanctioning their allies (remember, they have no real allies, only interests), we will see cracks in the whole godforsaken system. This whole development is objectively funny and good. Just sucks for us, personally. But I feel like, in my better moments, that is a small price to pay.

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To recap: The spiritual and metaphorical cannibalism beginning in the west is a sign of better times to come.
Your stance on this downfall of the hegemon says more about your real politics than anything else (the theories in your head and so on, if you are a regular you may have seen me go on about this). Thus I have declared.
Americans on the right side of this are my allies.
Americans on the other side are my enemy.

>>2411870
Form separatist movements and do your best to increase anti-American sentiments and pro-Canada sympathies. Facilitate immigration of skilled workers and fellow travelers to Canada. Map local infrastructure and stockpile caches of weapons and supplies along the border.

Canada must be destroyed along with every bourgeois nation (including China). However this tickles a particular schizophrenic obsession of mine.

Basically there is an area roughly north of the 41st parallel that could be balkanized and occupied by Canada, which precludes most of the population of the us and most important political infrastructure and military installations, but nonetheless encompasses most of the fresh water reserves of America including the great lakes. This includes Minnesota, Wisconsin, Maine, Oregon, Washington state, and northern California. All of which have a high degree of sympathy among the population for separating from the US and joining a union with Canada. As America drifts into rightwing politics these sympathies are likely to increase, as we have seen occur after the two elections of Donald Trump. There are also several exclaves located within this zone that have had successful referendums and polls to join Canada, which could provide a legal basis for starting this process.
This realignment also opens up the opportunity to break off and take Alaska. Alaska is dependent on access from Washington state through Canadian territories, by land and sea. It is also has a powerful separatist movement itself which currently is dominated by a more rightwing petit-bourgeois ideological orientation. Additionally it is alleged that the Russian Federation has supported separatist politics in Alaska.

>>2411864
Yes but when that happens I'll be innawoods scalping Yankees so I feel like I'll get a pass.

>>2411845
This, if you've ever interacted with Chinese people, you can tell that they're the most hyper-capitalist people ever. They devote their entire lives to studying in order to be the best and trample on others, and they have children so that they can support them when they retire. They literally have a god of money whom they pray to for success in business.

china has a news website published in Esperanto
http://www.espero.com.cn/

>>2412146
> They literally have a god of money whom they pray to for success in business.
You say that like it isn't completely normal for people to leave offerings and pray and shit for this nonsense all over the world.

>>2412147
Esperanto estas bona kompromisa lingvo inter grandaj potencoj. La angla estas ameriko/eŭropo centra lingvo pro kio la BRICS nature volas eviti ĝin.

>>2411926
You are drone food + youre probably a city boy who cant handle innawoods.

>>2412146
sure but we have like a gorillion gods in general, there's a god for everything you could possibly think of. the best gods are the protective local ones like for fishermen or oyster divers.

as a third worlder i find chinks just as annoying and self centered as amerifats

>>2412147
Proof that China is cringe and reddit

>>2412146
>>2412185
>as a third worlder
Where the fuck are you from? India?
lmao

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>>2409798
GDP is a fake metric. For example, Puerto Rico, by the virtue of being a part of American economy, has GDP per capita higher than that of Japan


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