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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

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I feel bad for Trumpers at this point

https://x.com/RepFine/status/1947831147544637572

>>2400385
>US companies will be paying a 19% tariff on goods coming from The Phillippines

>>2400383
i wonder if its like how certain rightoids rehabilitated past figures in the present. MLK was turned into a republican even though at the time the general rightoid consensus was that he was a subversive communist and immoral man.

>>2400385
What's the point of opening markets when you've completely trashed your reputation in the process. Just look at what Canada is doing to the American liquor industry when consumers are willing to boycott American products

>>2400351
>praying on twitter
lol

>>2400418
They deserve worse

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where did epstein get his money from?

>>2400531
intelligence services

>>2400510
Read lenin. The imperialists need to offload to ameriKKKan markets to not collapse their eKKKonomies. Which is why canada has and will continue to cuck


>>2400547
Based?

>>2400531
>Epstein worked for Hoffenberg (Towers Financial Corp.) in the early 1980s.
>Hoffenberg ran a $460M Ponzi scheme (one of the largest pre-Madoff) and later >claimed Epstein learned financial fraud from him.
>Hoffenberg (jailed in the 1990s) alleged Epstein stole his client list and used similar >tactics.

>in July 2019, Hoffenberg claimed that Epstein was his "uncharged co-conspirator" in the ponzi scheme.[25]


>Hoffenberg stated that he didn't turn in evidence against Epstein, mentioning Epstein "had traction with" the United States Department of Justice, and outlined further, "You cannot grasp the magnitude of [Epstein's] controlling effect."


>>2400547
>celebrity millionaire from your favorite proleslop says (national) socialism good!
You people are pathetic. But what else can be expected of Americans?

>>2400317
Apparently that photo was taken not long after surgery so her head was pretty swollen from the fat removal in her head/neck area.
>>2400328
She has a gf so I think she's doing alright tbh

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>>2400575
>attention whoring on a dying board

>>2400180
Fake and gay.

>>2400180
Ok fed

>>2400241
Trump should just purge everyone in the FED and bring interest rates to 0 if not negative for I can take out a bunch of loans and make money.

>>2400575
Cry harder lib. Socialism will triumph.

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>>2400385
cuck. he only got 1% tariff reduction.

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What exactly did Lula mean by this?
>"Liberal democracy has been unable to respond to contemporary desires and needs. Carrying out electoral rituals every four or five years is no longer sufficient. The political system and political parties have fallen into disrepute. For this reason, we discussed strengthening democratic institutions and multilateralism in the face of the successive attacks they have suffered. We agreed on the need to regulate digital platforms and combat disinformation, to restore the State's ability to protect its citizens."
https://www.poder360.com.br/poder-governo/eleicao-a-cada-4-ou-5-anos-nao-basta-diz-lula-sobre-democracia/

>>2400596
If Trump canceled all student loan debt he would win a third term

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>>2400499
but trump said they'll pay us.

>>2400596
>>2400646
Will never happen
>>2400647
This country is over

>>2400645
he means all bolsonaroids will get digitally lulag'd

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>>2400649
wrong. we're the "HOTTEST" country

social fascist zionist zohran fascists been real quiet since this dropped

>>2400547
He means the "socialism" of Bernie Sanders and DSA.

The "Socialism with imperialist world hegemon characteristics" which main achievements are reframing the two party system and it's political theater as revolutionary.

>>2400666
>He means
you his agent or something? xD

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>>2400352
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>>2400353
Tulsi has always rode the Israel (and also pro-India) bandwagon really hard.

What a lot of millennial/zoomer leftists who get taken in by this stuff don't get is that Tulsi Gabbard has a view that is more like the Republicans during the Cold War than Bush-style neoconservatives. This is because they didn't live through the Cold War and don't really understand it. (The definition of "neoconservative" also changed over the decades, as it originally referred to domestic policy, not exclusively foreign policy. I'm talking about the 1950s here.)

You see it with Nixon, but take for example, Reagan foreign policy advisor and U.N. ambassador Jeane Kirkpatrick. Her whole thing was that "traditional authoritarian governments" are preferable to communism because "the miseries of traditional life are familiar" so ordinary people "learn to cope" with them. So the U.S. in practice should support right-wing military juntas that were anti-communist. Leaders exactly like Gen. Sisi in Egypt. During the Cold War, that was the theory behind supporting the Shah of Iran, Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines, and Latin American juntas (transferred to today with Bolsonaro in Brazil).

She was mostly retired and really old when 9/11 happened, and advocated war with the whole "fundamentalist Islamic terrorist network" but invading Iraq was "a bit too interventionist for my taste" and that "moral imperialism" was "not taken seriously anywhere outside of Washington D.C." (Side story: Kirkpatrick was raised in a family of Oklahoma socialists in the 30s/40s and joined the YPSL while in college in Missouri.)

Max Abrahms is similar. He's a professor (and a big Tulsifag btw) who focuses on the subject of "terrorism." He developed a following among anti-imperialist circles for his criticism of Russiagate and U.S. support for Syrian rebels, and would make appearances on Glenn Greenwald's show to argue this point. Mainly Russiagate, but he saw Assad as preferable to ISIS, and so the U.S. should ally with Assad (and basically ally with Russia) to fight ISIS. But after the Al-Aqsa Flood, some of those followers were very confused when he began rallying for Israel really hard – but he always was very pro-Israel. (Incidentally he's Jewish but that's not strictly relevant.) He's very pro-Modi. He doesn't see any contradiction between supporting Israel and a traditional Arab dictator like Assad.

BTW, I don't think the Israelis ever bought into the Bush-era democracy stuff. I think they encouraged us to invade Iraq, because Saddam was their enemy. But I think it's mainly because they wanted us to fuck up Iraq for them, and I don't think they give a crap about building American-style model liberal democracies in the Middle East or believed in it then. The stuff you hear from some anti-imperialist types that ISIS = Mossad is propaganda from the Iran-led Axis of Resistance network. The Israelis like to fuck up and destabilize their neighbors (Lebanon, Syria) but they're not pro-ISIS, rather they prefer Sisi's Egypt, the UAE, and Aliyev's Azerbaijan.

>>2400383
I think the JFK stuff is more wrapped up in vague populism at this point. There's this whole cult around him as some nationally unifying future-forward modernist figure (space program etc.), and he was assassinated, and so people project onto him their own politics. You'll even see wignats say Kennedy was killed by da Joos.

>>2400666
be highly critical of the DSA and especially of sanders, the former is a poorly organized mess and sanders is at this point undeniably at least acting as a sheepdog

but i think a lot of people have forgotten what the status of anything called "socialism" in the US prior to sanders 2015 campaign. a lot of people involved today (or just calling themselves some flavor of socialist or communist or "leftist") arent old enough to have any real memory of it, let alone to have been organizing at that time. "socialism" was a dirty word, a dead-end ideology, the furthest you could get among the vast majority of americans talking about socialism was mentioning fucking sweden and prostrating yourself insisting that you werent talking about marxism or communism, and even then it was a gamble. forcing the term alone back into public consciousness, as something associated with good things that people want, was undeniably historically product. im not "crediting" sanders for that individually but if youre talking about achievements in terms of practical consequences, its just not true that the only effect sanders & DSA boom has had is negative

>>2400700
A rare sober take on Bernie Sanders and the DSA, unfortunately because you have not specified that communism is your personal vindicative bloodthirsty revenge fantasy you're probably going to get called a liberal for your trouble.

But yeah we've really come a long fucking way in just ten years. The idea of calling yourself a socialist and getting positive support at all was a huge deal and the Sanders campaign played a role in making actual socialist discourse acceptable again even if Sanders himself has cucked out to the DNC too many times. The popularity of Zohran Mamdani, who has described himself in the past as a communist who wants to "seize the means of production", would have been totally unthinkable even five years ago. There's a red star rising in America and we need to cultivate it and fan the flames rather than try and snuff it out for lack of ideological purity

>>2400715
Youre retarded. Stop glazing social fascists as socialist. If bernolf is a socialist then so was hitler. So stfu

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>>2400715
If sanders really made things left wing why do maga fascists control the government? Oh yeah bernie and all ameriKKKan socialists are really nazi

>>2400297
HUNGARY NUMBER #1!!!!!!!!

>>2400645
He wants to trade more with zionists

>>2400650
I'm stealing "Lulag" LMAO

>>2400700
IMO the withdrawing of taboo around socialism is not a sign of progress, but just a necessity of the new model of culture war. The new culture war, shaped by social media needs a much more engaged public. Because that's the essence of the business of media lately and it jives very well with the security state.

A "taboo" subject, one that doesn't enter the spectacle and remains private, remains dangerous. To disarm things one needs to make them into a culture war point, assigning control of it, to the superstructure.

The propaganda cycle works like that, every now and then enemy propaganda, the most taboo of taboos, the sort or thing that can be silenced with the mere mention of "enemy talking points"… becomes yesterdays facts and some faction of culture warrior its appointed defender. And just like that, facts that may have been dangerously contradictory of the official version end up disarmed. Relative, like all things culture war. The truthiness of it unknowable in the partisan arena, irrelevant beyond being useful to advance your own side's agenda in the culture war.

"Socialism" is just another meaningless term now. It carries no actual meaning beyond a vague allusion to populist policy and pearl clutching about the most grueling of liberal policies.

>>2400754
not really, Viggo brought up socialism in the context of defeating fascism

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>>2400754
Interesting pomo vomit (nta btw) but the US is legitimately sliding towards proletarianization and people simply have less and less stake in liberal democracy as time goes on. I'm not saying the red army is over the next hill not by a long shot but things are being affected by material changes

remember when nazianon kept saying this epstein stuff was an overblown hoax? Turns out the DoJ was ignoring the financial transactions tied to him
>A few days ago, as the Jeffrey Epstein scandal gripped Washington, Senator Ron Wyden offered a striking revelation in an interview with The New York Times. The Oregon Democrat said that his investigators had discovered that four big banks had flagged to the Treasury Department $1.5 billion in potentially suspicious money transfers involving Epstein, much of which appeared to be related to his massive sex-trafficking network.

>“I am convinced that the DOJ ignored evidence found in the U.S. Treasury Department’s Epstein file, a binder that contains extensive details on the mountains of cash Epstein received from prominent businessmen that Epstein used to finance his criminal network,” Wyden writes in the letter.

https://newrepublic.com/article/198247/trump-epstein-fiasco-ron-wyden

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>>2400328
at 1000 lbs it's no longer about becoming beautiful but about not dying

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>>2399342
>Oveja
Jajajaja

is the country sizzling or fizzling?


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