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Trump doesn't want to talk to Putin Edition

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-scotland-uk-starmer-eu-trade-deal/


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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine

https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323733
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323731
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323735
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323740

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📺 • Ukraine: The Avoidable War - Boy Boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4eNy4FCs8

📺 • Ukraine's Nazi Problem - The Marxist Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yZvWAwU5W4

📺 • America, Russia, and Ukraine's Far Right - Gravel Institute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0pyVJG7_6Q

📺 • The Nature of Putin's Russia and Its Causes (3-Part Series) - 1Dime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8d6Vzi7zYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zODWTfMwFGw
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so steve wiltcoff is going to moscow for us-russia peace talks tomorrow. i have a pretty good feeling about this one. anyone else think they will wrap this war up in a week or two?

>>2416362
Trump is already cucking? Ultra retards winning the fell for it again award?

>>2416362
He also approached Hamas and Iran to no avail
He's going wherever Trump stirs up trouble to offer useless dialogue

Hmm I am curious about Russian and Ukrainian casualties so today I will go to look up documented deaths in Russian and Ukrainian graveyards and–
>UMM SORRY DID YOU LOOK UP THE CORPSE EXCHANGE RATES INSTEAD THAT IS THE ONLY METRIC BY WHICH CASUALTIES CAN BE MEASURED BECAUSE SOME WESTOID ON SUBSTACK SAID SO
Yes that is another data point we can use and–
>NO THAT IS THE ONLY DATA POINT AND RUSSIA IS WINNING WITH A 1:40 CASUALTY RATIO BECAUSE I SAID SO
Hmm it seems like a rather lackluster way to determine overall casualties and–
>YOU FUCKING HOHOLCUCK ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE RUSSIA LOOSE???????

>>2416371
the zigger's NEED for Ukrainian casualties to be 100000000000000000000000000000000000 trillion bajillion outweighs his common sense.

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>>2416373
i swear it's a holdover from a need to redeem the Red Army taking massive casualties in 1941-43. the idea that an army can learn to fight much better instead of just being a juggernaut that never changes and is always winning doesn't even occur to anons who are supposed to be steeped in historical materialism, and now the same disrespect they have for Red Army troops who had to suffer under a fascist invasion are placed on Russian assault troopers tasked with a totally unenviable job of taking fortified Ukrainian positions, and even their suffering and deaths are denied by these anons to make themselves feel better.

it just makes no sense to me. if you really followed this war and wanted Russia to win then you would respect the average Russian soldier and at least try to understand the absolute hell they have to go through. but no, there's almost none of that and just a nonchalance about how easy the war is going and how it's just a small advance to "save" lives when every advance for either side is a bloody, miserable slog.

>>2416374
Me on the bottom btw

>>2416375
This is extremely disingenuous coming from you lol

Thesis: Russia has taken 10 trillion casualties
Anti-Thesis: Ukraine has taken 10 trillion casualties
Synthesis: Neither side has taken insurmountable casualties and judging by the front which has barely moved in 3+ years it seems more likely to be close to 50/50 and anyone insisting otherwise and that their opponent is dying 10x more than their enemy is working for either the Russia or Ukrainian government.

>>2416375
>>2416373
>>2416371
Kiev is Russian. “Ukraine” is a Nazi fiction made to justify colonization and genocide. Ziolensky is a dictator who outlawed communism and the Russian language. Cope harder

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>>2416226
lel effortless USAID/NED income is no more, now he's shitposting from mom's basement

>unemployed

> demands flat tax for rich fucks
There is no salvation for this brainwashed dipshit, he'd preach neoliberal talking points and cuck to the bourgeoisie while being homeless. SAD!

>>2416387
I know you pray every night that that's what Ukraine becomes but unfortunately for you your government is shit, your leadership is retarded, your central bank is run by a double agent, and your generals are getting killed on a regular basis so how about you win the war first before posting that otherwise it's just coping.

>>2415972
because you know, you have to be racist if on 2025 you still support a banderite regime.

>>2416226
I think it's great that the mentally challenged can be part of high society too!

>>2416373
>>2416371
Samefagging is bannable, right? Also the claim of one sided k/d ratios comes from the Ukrops lel, the truth is that it probably roughly equal (over the years it has propably averaged out) and even russian telegram is more honest about this. Thing is, the Ukrops published their death toll recently and it was so low that even western mainstream news sites were seeing it as a political stunt since the Russians have stopped publishing their own. Ukrops are basically undergoing mass psychosis, if you asked them why they haven't push back the Orcs if their k/d is so much in their favor they will accuse you of being a russian. There is no logic to it.

>>2416139
not yet, but probably soon.

>>2415598
i'm asking what's not-asian about russians

>>2416389
>Immediately accuses someone of being russian
Yup thats the nafoid alright lmao

>>2416226
imagine being such a huge cuck of the militaristic ideology and still find yourself living at your mom's basement.
he'd be happy to sit-tied naked on the tip of cruise missile if that's a missile named fuck Putin.
>Remember Gunther Fehlinger?
of course, he's at the level of david d or warmonitor.

>>2416432
>Caring about ethnicity
Mods should do their jobs for once and purge some anons, starting with this thread

>>2416442
>YAY! we're getting rid of ethnic slur
>the one that you're supposedly defending from themselves while being foreign?
>we're not foreign!
>what about you is not foreign?
>how DARE you care about ethnicity!

>>2416422
>Also the claim of one sided k/d ratios comes from the Ukrops lel, the truth is that it probably roughly equal (over the years it has propably averaged out) and even russian telegram is more honest about this
not samefagging at all and i agree with this, the casualty ratios are probably pretty close. but both the NAFOids and hardcore ziggas refuse to believe that could be the case. it's like telling a German in 1916 that nope, the fighting at Verdun isn't bleeding the French white and that the casualty ratios are pretty close. their heads would've fucking exploded after reading Kaiserslop of how each German soldier was killing 50 frogs everyday

>>2416432
Culturally they are more European in general. Obviously the far Eastern parts of the country are more Asian ethnically and culturally but in general the more populated part of the country is the west.

>>2416459
they're not, they're asiatic; here's prime example - social contract:
europeans have demands for their country and accept the fact that the country has demands for them. therefor if unhappy they will go out and protest as it's expected of them to do their part.
russian social contract is akin to - country leaves me alone i let government do whatever it wants
you can check last thread how russians genuinely thought ukraine is going to fall apart because ukrs went out protesting dismantling anti-corruption (successfully btw)
they periodically gloat that as long as there isn't a mobilisation (meaning things don't affect them personally) everything is fine even itt

>>2416362

it'll be nothing, tbh. trump obtained what he wanted, submission of the US allies to him, and not to the democrats.

>Russian intelligence: London is planning a massive act of sabotage and then declaring Russian oil shipments a "threat to all international shipping."
It reminds me when Russians said in 2006 that hillary was going to use "Russian collusion" to first picrel, and then years later comes in second picrel to feign dementia, when the Russiagate hoax started.

it's a shame they didn't stop the bong sabotage outside anapa

>>2416465
stfu, you racist radlib. go neck yourself with your orientalism "muh Asiatic shepherded herd". Russians since 2014 saw how the banderites were doing what they were doing. As if Europeans went out to protest their policymakers that decided to take expensive US oil over cheap Russian oil, now causing thousands of industrial job cuts, massive energy deficit, in a continent with fucking snowy winters.
>you can check last thread how russians genuinely thought ukraine is going to fall apart
no one actually said this
there's no "ukrainian government" it's a proxy, and the proxy doesn't fall apart whether zelya is gone or not.
>ukrs went out protesting dismantling anti-corruption
UKRS lmao, not nato NGOs that need that money to live and not be forcefully mobilized.
>they periodically gloat that as long as there isn't a mobilisation
t. least salty nafo because of the thousands of videos of mobilized ukrainians.

>>2416318
>Somehow this guy is the only likable person in the NATOcel sphere and I can’t explain it
While the average outspoken NATOid feels like barely restrained fascists. Gunther feels more like Milhouse Van Houten tagged-along the wrong crowd, obliviously chasing validation from terrible people. Horrid implications of his crowd's ideas aside, he remains an unambitious low level toadie, happy to be there.Nobody can look at this man and fail to see the hustle.

Heckling Gunther feels like heckling a street performer who bizarrely chose to do the "Living statue" of a famous Nazi.

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>>2416496
> expensive US oil over cheap Russian oil
here a comparison of oil prices in the year of our lord 2014: cheap russian brent on right, expensive american wti on left

oh sorry we're supposed to talk current prices
so as of now:
cheap russian brent 69.30 usd per barrel
expensive american wti 67.22 usd per barrel

>>2416581
>>2416599
Look at a map my uygha

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>>2416599
>>2416581
you are gigantic moron, stfu.

nafo bots will tell you straightforwardly to your face that le asiatic horde is a cucked nation because they didn't revolt in Russia, while saying that Europe is the beacon of revolt and rebellion.
there's literally a wikipedia page that accounts of the economic crisis in Germany in which no German went protesting at large for the problem they created ("muh we are not involved in Ukraine", "anyway, here's a 100billion check to zelya") and somehow they want to look smart saying all of that above.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_economic_crisis_(2022%E2%80%93present)

>>2416338
Because they're desperate to find a metric in which Ukraine is winning. If the k/d is too high in Russian favor then it means Ukrainian collapse is indeed happening in which case all the zigger and cucktin posters will be forced to kill themselves.

>>2416455
The problem is all the material facts point against this idea.

>>2416371
>today I will go to look up documented deaths in Russian and Ukrainian graveyards
The thread did this, actually before sharing corpse exchange numbers

>>2416465
>they're not, they're asiatic; here's prime example - social contract
The EU and centrist parties are divorced from their populations. Europeans are the slave masses now kek

>>2416455
>the casualty ratios are probably pretty close. but both the NAFOids and hardcore ziggas refuse to believe that could be the case.
it just doesn't make sense when rus outguns ukr between 5:1 and 15:1 depending on the front

>>2417078
other things to consider are "defenders advantage", ukr having much longer supply lines and worse medical, the 2 million army ukr started with that was completely rolled over and replaced, the precision of himars vs quantity, injured getting counted 3-4-5 times after redeploy, donbass volunteers and wagner not always being counted

still comes out 3:1 in russia favor, minimum

>>2416465
Kek, literally Kraut tier, libs never cease to amaze me

>>2416581
Yurops economy is on standstill since the sanctions you moron, they pay premium for what is essentially russian gas going through third countries like India.

>>2417078
Guns stopped being relevant 2 years ago

>>2417078
>it just doesn't make sense when rus outguns ukr between 5:1 and 15:1 depending on the front
RUSI reported some fronts have 25% the manpower they should, you wonder the average.

>>2416226
yeah it kinda weird how I can't really hate him

Pro-Ukrainian spectators will buy claims of a 14:1 ratio in favour of Ukraine at face value because they’ve already psychologically prepared themselves for Ukraine’s defeat and the unavoidable revelation that Ukrainians were just being used as cannon fodder by NATO, literally to the last Ukrainian possible.


Because then all of their support for the exploitation of Ukrainians is something that they’re also victims of because they were lied to, of course they wouldn’t have so brazenly told ziggers to cope and seethe if they’d not been LIED to by Kiev and western intel agencies the entire time and being told that ackshually Ukraine is committing near genocidal rates of death for the Russian military.

>>2417801
>Kiev

Until you get it, its Kyiv pal, sorry not sorry.

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