>>2406724I was also weighting in, pondering, whether the reduction of time was because of the EU bending down or what. the timing is very sus, but I am not sure exactly was what the US would do in both cases. trade imbalance? the US trade imbalance comes from China and other developing nations, where the US buys more knick-knacks for whatever reason and not of the overpriced products the EU sells to the US.
After all, the EU is incurring to trade imbalances, too, due to the financialization of the EU currency.
I guess it's just that he's angry that the EU was always vocally attacking trump, even keir starmer influencing the US elections against him, in a very UK collusion that would make the Russian collusion hoax to pale, so maybe it's just that: he wanted to humiliate the EU to finally keep the same thing biden was doing.
nothing changed, except the EU finally wagged their tail to trump.
here, for the record, we can see the nazi-slave owner pustula von der merde openly admitting to the question "What are the US concessions? What is the US giving up in the deal" that the US didn't give any concessions, didn't give up anything.
>>2406738 (me)
>>2406724forgot the video of pustula von der merde addmitting that the can be very flexible negotiating with the US. bending-a-lot to the US, that is.
>>2406738>Trump announced on Sunday that the EU will also purchase $750 billion worth of US energy exports.So iirc part of the punishment for Russia not surrendering in 50 days was slapping nations that “fund Russia’s war” with 100% tariffs was essentially targeted at nations that are selling Russian energy as an intermediary to EU nations, with the idea being those nations will balk and quit reselling Russian gas and oil entirely.
I think primarily Trump, with his America First bollocks, only cares about avoiding competition (especially when selling to its vassals) and Russia was undercutting the US even selling via an intermediary and a few EU states are very touchy about giving up Russian energy, so threatening to cut the EU entirely off from Russian energy results in a guaranteed purchase of nearly a trillion dollars worth of US energy by the EU, who will no doubt make the population foot the bill while allowing industry to purchase Russian energy as usual. If Trump in anyway rolls back his threats about targeting Russian energy intermediaries once this much shortened deadline passed, it will be because the US got to wet its beak in the European energy market and now no longer cares what the EU spends additionally on cheaper energy.
>>2406794>with 100% tariffs was essentially targeted at nations that are selling Russian energy as an intermediary to EU nations, with the idea being those nations will balk and quit reselling Russian gas and oil entirelythe problem is, how can they prove that's
Russian oil. Russia can buy through their partners around the world oil, mix it, and then resell it under shady operations, and make it untraceable. Also, the EU has large refineries specialized to process only Russian oil.
Worst case escenario, Russia processes those raw materials and re-sells the secondary raw materials as semi-processed goods, that then are parts of new hardware and components. Russia
has that capability.
>If Trump in anyway rolls back his threats about targeting Russian energy intermediaries once this much shortened deadline passed, it will be because the US got to wet its beak in the European energy market and now no longer cares what the EU spends additionally on cheaper energy.I don't think he will. He'll take the EU concession as a reason to further keeping the conflict, because all this reluctance was because the EU wasn't bending themselves too much.
>>2406805now that DDR anon posted in the USAPOL, and he adamantly said that the EU isn't Germany, it's Kaja Kallas, the baltoids, and every other peripheral country directing the EU.
let remind that recently fridrich merz said that the EU diplomacy is directed, (against the EU constitutional andfoundational laws: by consensus and total unanimity), by who holds the power in it, saying that Germany will lead the EU diplomacy. that is, taking steps to further escalate the conflict against Russia.
>>2406853>I'd be uncomfortable with any framing that doesn't treat WW1 as a part of the great power competition and a result of UK hegemonytrue, except UK wasnt an hegemon like USA is today, they were simply the first among the imperialists.
>which means the German reich wasn't imperialistshit, you guys
still dont understand what is imperialism? how many times has it been explained in this thread?
just take a look at the economies of great powers in ww1 (or read lenin who did the work) and the relative size of their stock markets, and then compare it to today.
>>2406821I think the EU is detached even from average Germans. Germany was after all hammered for dragging its feet after 2022, and shows a lot of disillusionment in polling with Ukraine.
The same detachment is seen with Israel
An international order is being held together increasingly despite the people under it, including those who benefited more than others, and yes it increasingly relies on utterly dependent vassal states and their historical victim mentality (stolen from europe and now wedded to it) for legitimacy.
>>2406875well, it is detached from average Germans, that doesn't mean the current vassal leader is very keen, eager in fact, in leading the German state to that point.
And he was elected for that matter.
>>2407107Nah it’s the same pathology as cucktinposters, but whereas cucktinposters are like
>Just bomb a NATO base in Poland bro, tell them to put up or shut upMedvedev talks as though that already happened at least once
>>2407109Trump is turning out, unsurprisingly, to just be the plausible deniability wrt the US’s drastic turn towards tightening their grip on their vassals and their coffers.
Trump was the unlikely, larger than life, big personality, populist “accident” that so vulgarly flexed the US’s power over everyone, future US governments will surely apologise for this rather hostile anomaly in the “special relationship” with their vassals, for letting the dog through the net, but they will also regretfully concede that it’s already too late to reverse or compensate for, sowwy :3
>>2406796speaking of which, now the EU says they aren't sure they can pay all that money to trump.
EU, such a jokistan. all bad unfunny theatrics.
Yeah let's talk about something else, like the relation both countries have with Palestine
>Putin condemned the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that sparked the Gaza war and said Israel had a right to defend itself, but also criticized Israel's response and said Israel should not besiege the Gaza Strip in the way Nazi Germany besieged Leningrad. Putin suggested that Russia could be a mediator in the conflict.[36]>In December 2023, Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Russia's goals of "demilitarization" and "denazification" in Ukraine were similar to Israel's stated goals of defeating Hamas and extremism in Gaza.[37][38] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine%E2%80%93Russia_relationsAnd Ukraine
<Israel did not vote for a UN resolution calling on Russia to pay reparations for invading Ukraine.[17]<During the Gaza war, Ukraine's Foreign Ministry condemned attacks on Palestinian civilians in Gaza and supported a two-state solution to the conflict.[18] More than 300 Ukrainian scholars, activists and artists expressed solidarity with Palestinians in an open letter.[19] Most of the Ukrainian community in Gaza was forced to flee the country because of the war.[20]<On 2 June 2024, Zelensky reiterated Ukraine's support for a two-state solution. He remarked that, while Ukraine has supported Israel's right for self-defence against Hamas during the attacks in October 2023, during the humanitarian crisis Ukraine said that it is ready to help Gaza humanitarianly and it "will do everything so that Israel stops and civilians do not suffer."[21]<On 18 July 2024, Ukraine sent a gift of 1,000 tons of its wheat flour to the Palestinian territories. According to the foreign ministry, the package will be enough to support more than 100,000 Palestinian families for a month.[22][23] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine%E2%80%93Ukraine_relationsThoughts zion gang?
>>2407563One country blamed the crisis on the lack of a two state solution and linked it to endless US wars in the middle east while pursuing security ties to Iran. The other had its leader try to visit Israel immediately in order to bridge Western aid to both and claim Israel as a state ideal as a bulwark for Western civilization.
>>2407571>how does one 'liberate' a sovereign, foreign country?It's pretty easy when said country claims the land but not the people inhabiting it, then wants to use the former to divide the world as the state regresses.
>>2407563hamas is not palestine
hamas was created by idf to propagate islamism and obstruct the secular government in western bank. i wouldn't even be surprised if the october war was inspired by netanyahu himself as a means of cannibalizing the far right parties he was forced to co-rule with.
it's no wonder both countries are very close to israel - eastern europe is brimming with jews: zelensky's a full jew, putin's half jew.
hell, russians and (modern) jews are descended from the same people - khazars.
>>2407563>tired and lame attempt at both-sidismRussia is allied with Israel's regional enemies. It defended Syria for years against a joint US-Israeli-Turkish-VariousArabCuck attack while Ukraine aided the attack. It arms and helps defend Iran against Israeli attacks, while Ukraine aids the attacks.
Ukraine and Israel are both imperial proxies of the US empire. They are the same thing and fight for the same thing. They attack the same things, and it's almost always allies of Russia.
Russia has tried to maintain normal relations with Israel, basically riding the fence, but that's as far as it goes, and we'll see how long that lasts. It's a facade everyone seems ok playing along with for now.
But fuck words and posturing. Words are for politics and appearances. If you want to know what's what, look at the actions. And the actions tell you everything you need to know.
>>2407571First, it's not sovereign. It is a wholly owned dependency of US-NATO. A slave state, essentially.
Second, it was not a unified country but a divided one. That is why there was a civil war, and a contact line, and negotiations between warring sides that ended with a peace treaty (which Ukraine violated and refused to follow, causing the current war).
Ukraine as a country was taken over illegally and unconstitutionally by a criminal faction that could not gain the absolute power they sought through the normal process. So they aligned with foreign powers to seize it by force, disenfranchising a majority of the people who voted for the deposed. Then the criminal faction banned all meaningful opposition to itself, and especially candidates and parties popular among the people of the deposed government, to ensure those people would have no franchise or any say in the direction of state.
2014 was a usurpation of national sovereignty, a denial of the basic rights of large parts of the country and the establishment of a factional dictatorship. Subsequent elections were just a mirage that could only elect one or another element of the maidan movement and would always wind up with NATO-dictated policy no matter who won (see Zelensky the "peace candidate").
The areas of Ukraine that had their votes and rights stolen by the "revolution" and had to endure what was/is essentially an apartheid regime directed against them, can be reasonably called liberated when Russia boots out the usurpers.
>>2407710>Hello fellow tankies>Zigger>Cucktin>Ur FSBWhat Israel gets from Russia:
A parade invite
What Israel gets from Ukraine:
mitliary and intelligence assistance in attacking it's regional enemies (who happen to usually be Russian allies).
Guess which one our false-flagging /uhg/ friend tries to pass of as significant.
The fact is Ukraine is objectively and materially helping the cause of Greater Israel. It helped Israel attack and overthrow Syria. And it's helping Israel attack Iran. And it will keep doing so at every turn in the future.
Meanwhile Russia will continue trying to help Israel/Ukraine's victims defend themselves from the attacks.
>>2406937>japan wasn't imperialist in WW2 because not enough stock market why even bother responding if its to show you complete ignorance you retarded dumbfuck, japan stock market was similar to that of france in 1930 and became even bigger than it afterward
just admit you're an idiot with no ability to root an analysis in either reality or theory because you dont bother with either, hence you're only an useless shitposter
>>2407835try reading better or stop lying to whitewash Ukraine.
the meeting was to discuss how Israel and Ukraine could cooperate in Israel's next attacks on Iran. Ukraine thanking Israel for launching a war of aggression against a sovereign state was just a courtesy between allies and fellow ethno-nationalists, not the point of the meeting.
Ukraine already helped Israel topple Syria, They need to discuss how Ukraine could better help Israel's next rounds of aggression and imperial expansion.
Meanwhile Russia will be talking with Iran about how to sure up its defenses against Israel/Ukraine's attacks.
>>2407729>What does russia gain by supporting israel?Russia has a bunch of Jewish billionaires who have dual Russian-Israel citizenship and own businesses and high-end property in both countries, and they also use Israeli citizenship to shield their assets from Western sanctions (also Cyprus). Just follow the money. I'm not trying to kick Jews here but it's really funny that antisemitic /pol/ types who support Russia via the West think that they're fighting da Joos while converting to Orthodox Christianity or whatever they do.
Leftists can debate whether the war is inter-imperialist or not, but the way I've been thinking about it, the bourgeoisie is a "band of warring brothers" as Marx put it. Putin's job (as a Bonapartist leader) is to protect their wealth from other predatory capitalists in the world but also ordinary Russians who have been getting robbed.
Israel served a similar function for the U.S. during the Cold War as other "captive nations" groups did. The U.S. understood that nation-states (or potential nation-states like Ukraine) and Latvia/Estonia/Lithuania could serve as disintegrating forces for the Soviet Union. Nation-states are also useful vehicles for capitalism, as capital needs states for protection and expansion, and as tools to print money and to help stabilize the inevitable crises that occur, and they also need national states and borders to mask class divisions, split up workers, and raise armies to fight their wars over labor, markets and resources (which creates inter-imperialist rivalries). But the ultimate victory for capital in the last century was that Russia itself also went down this path, which might partly explain the Russian government's fascination with encouraging nationalism in Western countries. There are glowies in Russia who are projecting their own experiences in the late 20th century onto the U.S. when they see a couple of rednecks barking about Texas seccessionism.
>>2407563you know you are a moron, when you ignore the fact that Russia's help in Syria, if anything, served to help Palestine.
Do yourself a favor and stab your rectum with a sword, because that's the only honorable way for you to commit seppuku.
>>2407563I don't care what Putin does, or thinks or what flavor of retard cope the Russian state huffs or expresses to the public.
In actual reality, the RF has found itself in opposition to NATO when it comes to the cold war and the perpetuation of US hegemony. And their role in that conflict would be progressive, even if, in fact they were doing all the things that the western propaganda says. It just has nothing to do with the idealism you spout.
>>2408350>PFLP … had their headquarters in Damascus.The PFLP-GC did but they were a splinter group run by Syrian glowies.
You know a lot of Palestinians are not into Russia or Assad like you are right
>>2408607I think it's rough for them when globalization breaks down in ways we rather than liberals and nationalists predict. It's basically the whole bourgeois international system versus individual non-Western developing nations and this validates the view neocolonialism is what divides the world. This view also supposes a crisis of imperialism causing conflict that also predicts failure. You can see the implications for post 2014 Ukraine despite it being the genesis and russiagate and militarization of the West.
You have to work overtime to falsify this and overwrite with other divisions, thus Russia as part of a zionist alliance against Islam or an American one against China.
>>2408707I think you are confused if not sarcastic
Collapse was achieved by NATO and friends a long time ago. Ukraine is a shambolic mess, a zombie propped up by the sheer weight of extreme subsidization.
Do you think they'll "go back" to an independent functioning country when this "blows over". Man, you people are untethered from reality, completely and terminally.
Ukrainian man not happy at picking berries
He went berry picking onto Finland to avoid living in Ukraine but he doesnt like it here
He is picking up strawberries on summer in a Finnish strawberry farm
https://yle.fi/a/74-20172942?origin=rssBoryslava Whipmann ended up as berry picker. Farm owner is awful.
>Longer work days than what was initially agreed upon
>Housing resembles pig den more than a hotel
>2 weeks of work without a whole day resting (he would have liked to sleep over entire Sunday)
>He is getting paid 1 euro per a littre of picked up berry, HOWEVER a Finnish man on a marketplace 33 kilometers away from strawberry ranch, has to pay 10 liters for the same berries, strawberry farm lord gets 9 euros for himself!
>Strawberries are sold by the farm owner himself so he doesnt have to pay anyone for that part
>When Finnish YLE reporters appeared on the farm and demanded see the worklist of Ukrainians on the fields the owner, Finnish man named Pekka whose last name will not be revealed, would refuse to show the media the list
>"Everyone can leave here anytime they wish, simple as, but you probably can't return later if you do, and there are more people willing to pick berries if need be">>2408718kek what a moron
he should have fled to belarus instead
especially if he wanted to be a farm worker like bro wtf are you retarded Lukashenko will literally give you free housing if you join a collective farm smh
>>2406937Israel isn't imperialist just like Rhodesia wasn't
Its a shithole settler colony that doesn't have capability for sophisticated domination of foreign markets
>>2408652>Praise to comrade al jolani for letting the pflp stay in damascus😴😴😴
he took away their weapon. no Palestinian group can have weapons now. You don't care about Palestine, never did, you disgusting radlib.
Moreover, it has been reported that Palestinians who once held land in Syria thanks to the Assads, now their land is being stolen by HTS. Also HTS is imposing levies to Palestinian farmers in Idlib, arresting those who complained.
Again, put a sword in your rectum and commit seppuku. That's the only honorable way for you to die.
https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/112936/
>MOSCOW. July 29 (Interfax) - The next nationwide local elections in Ukraine set in line with election laws for the last Sunday in October 2025 will not be held, Ukrainian media reported with reference to the Central Election Commission (CEC).
>The Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada normally sets a date for nationwide local elections no later than 90 days prior to the voting day; however, due to martial law imposed in the country, no elections can be organized or held during this period, and therefore, the Rada has not called regular local elections this year, media said referring to a statement on the CEC's website.
>"No elections are organized and held while martial law is in effect, and therefore, members of the territorial elections commissions formed during the previous regular local elections on October 25, 2020 shall continue performing their duties until new compositions of relevant territorial elections commissions are formed," CEC member Sergei Postivy said. >>2410229I’m having a brainwave, what if what NATO seeks to imperialise in Ukraine is not raw materials, or wheat but the women? If the women are
>Trad culturally >Beautiful>Motivated romantically by money>Selfish and devoid of civic mindedness>Simp for the relatively more powerfulThen that’s the dream for every gooning rightoid man in the west, our demographic issues concerning birth rates could be solved overnight!
>>2410223well, that's the prize you pay for liberalism. international debauchery, impulse to succumb to a better life instead of face the rough path ahead. who's to blame? Ukrainians chose the road of liberalism, ardently, even as of now. they are fighting for their right to be in the west, or send their daughters, girlfriends, wives, to the west, so they can get drunk, get drugs, and live a menial life and call it "realization".
>>2410380I am talking that they, all in ukraine, are happily dying for that to happen. to them, it's a realization to not have a notion of nation and fatherland, very appropriate of liberalism. because they will leave to whatever place they feel it'll be a materialist realization to live a life like that. like having a room with knick-knacks, drug yourself, party non-stop, etc. instead of facing problems ahead, and come to terms that you won't exploit others, and for that you'll have less.
reddit poster feels bad for them, but you see no ukrainian easily surrendering in great numbers on the LOC.
I don't feel bad for them. I feel contempt, because they get what the deserve, whether they realized it was a consequence of their choices or it was an unintended consequence of their choices.
>>2409539Get those arthritic grandpas in there. Then throw the corpses into a literal meat grinder.
We use every part of the animal, we are environmentalists.
>>2410561What a nonsensical statement.
I have maybe sounded blasé about this in the past
>>2410557 and probably will again.
The truth is it is truly fucked up.
If I got one of those pro-war ukrainians in a quiet moment, it's a crime that "Do you know where your gramps is rn?", is a legitimate question. Do you want to be evropean this much that having your grandpa grabbed off the street while he's trying to get his beets and onions is a price worth paying?
This thing started with a Volkssturm and it looks like it will end with one.
I have no idea about the funny arrows and I don't follow the day-to-day at all but this fact alone makes it clear how grim things are.
>>2410347>>2410453I got it by AFP spanish
LOL not reported in english
>Russian army claims they took Chasiv YarIn english there is just firefighters in Kiev
>>2411003To be fair, if you were reading the White House's actions as indicative of the developments within Ukraine you would be justified in the confusion or mistake of believing of a US withdrawal of support for the war.
Zelensky's saving grace is an adamantine and dictatorial clutch onto the conditions of his presidency.
>>2411155It was pretty amazing how quickly
>Nazi salutes and tattoos>Racially profiling Russians as stupid and mindlessly aggressive towards anything or anyone non-Russian >Diplomacy is a non-starter, Russians just need to be eradicated at least from Europe if not Russia itself All became a-okay ideas with internet libs overnight.
But then they do think supporting “diversity” is about tolerance, like it’s some saintly virtue to not vomit blood at the sight of someone with a different skin colour in your proximity. So when you’ve got this global division where some reject the virtuousness of the west for very valid reasons, nah that’s too much to tolerate, we must eviscerate them in self-defence!
>>2411869They're coping because the Ukraine genocide narrative fell apart when we got a look at an actual genocide
It's very difficult to be an apologist for liberal capitalism these days
>>2411932If your defense of liberal democracy consists of ethnic supremacy on its frontiers as proven by Ukraine and Israel, it validates Marxist views about the democracy of oppressor nations and thus how it supposes Russian and Arab nationalism. It means Western crisis and regression causes its own problems and enemies. The way anti-imperialists can celebrate this self destruction just drives some up a wall.
The only response is arguing the enemies the West supposes are the same as the West. This is a tacit admission Western rule is indefensible
>>2411980Make an ad and send it to Ukraine
"do you know where your grandfather is currently"?
What better praxis
>>2411221>500 km/h That's like
not even that fast. That's double a relatively fast train
>>2412102>putin is neoliberala neoliberal disconnected from all multilateral systems
>chauvinist embraces multiculturalism, sees russia as a multinational state, believes the world needs to be more pluralistic towards non-western civilizations and cultures
>>2412186>Christian nationalists will fix the EU and make Russia want to be European again I think Russia likes being an independent power and Europe is too dependent on transatlantic ties for global relevance
After Russians lost faith in the golden promises that ended the cold war then charted their own course they're not going to take a grossly inferior bargain with a declining Europe
Russia is not Ukraine. It's not going to eat shit just to be European lol
>there are already plenty of Russian nationalists who thought they would be able to do a Sino-Soviet split and align with MAGA US due to """shared""" cultural Christian valuesThere is zero evidence Christian religion defines strategic alignments under globalization and can overcome the east-west divide (that Christianity originally reflects). It's all the political economy of global capitalism and the historic foundations it's based on. History arrived at West vs the rest and no Christian lip service of one president undone by the next overwrite US or Russian interests in this epoch
There is a consensus in Russian leaders it doesn't matter which party leads the US. This has been cemented with plummeting G7 approval of Russia and China. Even in the most fantastic Christian nationalist wave in the West envisioned by CNN or whatever would just mean it going after Russian allies while being unable to solve fundamental post cold war security issues in the east. This is because religion doesn't paper over how decommunization divided the former USSR
To be honest I have no idea why you still hold onto these hopes lol.
>>2411929They are reminded everyday of the hypocrisy and yet they continue. it's not like their whole personality is carefully vetted, groomed, and scripted.
>>2411866ah, that makes more sense, yes, it's not Latvian.
>>2411977hard? pf. easiest hobby on earth. the only difficult thing is to get people to read.
>>2412232 (me)
oops I mean its NOT my personal hopes, like i don't want another Sino-Soviet split. admittedly the first time was due to Mao's autism but this time will be primarily due to Russian nationalist delusions
>>2412237a lot of Russians are "okay" with it but the nationalists definitely are not.
>>2412239 thinks they're making a point but we are talking about nationalists for whom material reality has no bearing and muh Orthodox Christian values take precedence. if push came to shove then Russian nationalists would choose to align with MAGA America over China 9 times out of 10
>>2412243Yea they're going to take a subordinate role to America because christianity over being a leader in a multipolar world
Just like they did when America was run by WASPs and Russia was run by the church and tsar
Maybe stop being media brained and thinking cultural idealism defines the world
>>2412252disclaimer: i am NOT advocating for the Russian nationalist position so i'm not sure why you keep implying i believe their delusions wholeheartedly. from their perspective it wouldn't be a junior position vis a vis America because each nation would recognize each others sphere of influence whereas Russia literally shares a long and contiguous land border with China. they would have much more leverage over the US than they do with China and the supposed Christian values of both potential regimes would be a boon for both.
like this is literally what they believe and you're over here telling me shit i already know, like duh cultural idealism doesn't define geopolitics. but i have no idea why you assume that right-wing clash-of-civilizations nationalism doesn't think so. the fact is that the nationalists will be a big player in the domestic struggle in Russia to come, and the communists are not ready for it at all. and jokers like you will be stuck defending the nationalists by proxy because you don't think they exist or are inconvenient for your position.
>>2412267There's no evidence the Russian state behaves or will behave the way you describe. You fell for Democrat propaganda meant solely for US election purposes, not making sense of the world. I'm not sure why after 2022 you even bother believing it. Trump 1.0 and 2.0 clashed with Putin, who in turn has secured Russia's post Soviet transition in the world as fundamentally at odds with the West whether liberal or conservative. The world isn't divided by ideals. Successors to both Trump and Putin are positioned to continue the clash.
Also even in the fantasy scenario, it does not secure a Russian position in Europe. It doesn't do anything except achieve some reverse Kissinger completely divorced from that issue plus the middle east and its intersection with the Caucasus. Instead there's just some assumption of a Russian antagonism with China prophesied since the 90s, with the opposite consistently being the trend since.
Again I have no idea why bother dismissing the 30 year picture for a media narrative tied to a burger culture war and never meant to scale outside of it
>>2412256oof what's not to learn.
ex-communists in Ukraine literally talking like nazis, treasonous and treacherous people on your communist party. Rethought of Lenin's imperialism, using a small fraction Kautsky thought: superimperialism or "ultra-imperialism" as a contrast, in which nation-cartels form an alliance club (NATO) to avoid wars and conflict, erasing national conflicts between capitalist states, through the monopolies, but leaving aside all the atheorethical parts and reformism that Kautsky used.
>>2412303In fact, in April 8, 2014, communists in Ukraine already knew what was brewing with the nationalists. how the state failed to to bring peace.
until this day, all the assets of the Communist Party of Ukraine has been seized by zelya's goons.
>>2412437there are no permanent strategic interests. all the effort spent to maintain the Syrian state and a warm water port was thrown away because Donbass took far more precedence. if the US or EU-skeptic Germany or France can provide concessions then the strategic considerations would shift again. Russia still isn't configured to be the gas field for China and India, and much of its infrastructure was built on the premise of primarily supplying Europe with energy. if the West can get Russia to pivot itself against China in exchange for gibs why wouldn't they take that? because of muh strategic partnerships? what did Russia do to help Iran this past year? isn't Iran going to China now for fighter jets and AA systems?
out of all the BRICS countries the Russian state is by far the most strategically contingent, even moreso than India. people like to rag on China for being self-centered but there is no concept of a Zhongguo Shijie when there is the Russkiy Mir.
>>2412515the fact that you though this shit was so good you put a watermark on it
utterly embarrassing lol
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/07/ukraine-anti-corruption-independence-restored-zelenski-weakened-army-in-trouble.htmlUkraine - Anti-Corruption Independence Restored, Zelenski Weakened, Four Cities Are Falling
>On Monday the 21st of July the Ukrainian Secret Service (SBU) searched offices of the independent anti-corruption police (NABU) and anti-corruption prosecutor office (SAPO) and detained several of its investigators. A day later the Zelenski regime pushed a law through parliament which ended the independence of both entities by putting them under control of the prosecutor general.
>The move had been planned for months (in Russian) but was executed in haste after NABU and SAPO had served a notices-of-investigation to people near to the president.
>But Zelenski had miscalculated the step. There were highly visible local protests and the EU stepped in by threatening to withhold subsidies on which the Ukrainian state depends.
>Two days after his strike against the independent anti-corruption entities Zelenski had to pull back. Today the parliament reestablished the independence of NABU and SAPO.
<The Verkhovna Rada (Ukrainian parliament) has passed a law restoring powers to Ukraine’s key anti-corruption agencies – the National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) and the Specialised Anti-Corruption Prosecutor’s Office (SAPO).
<A total of 331 MPs voted in favour of the presidential bill [..]. No MPs voted against the bill, and no one abstained. Nine MPs did not vote.
<Under the new law, SAPO will now independently oversee the procedural supervision of NABU investigations – and is no longer under the control of the Prosecutor General.
>The new law was signed by the president and is now in force.
>By his misstep and its retraction from it Zelenski demonstrated a fatal weakness which his political enemies will soon use to end his control of the country.
>Several additional corruption investigations against Zelenski's entourage are pending. The most severe one is against Timur Mindich, a longtime business partner of the president nicknamed "Zelenski's wallet". NABU had wiretapped Mindich's apartment which was used by Zelenski and others to discuss 'businesses'. (Mindich's bugged luxury apartment in Kiev is said to include a room with a golden toilet.)
>With the independence of NABU and SAPO restored, new investigations against Mindich and other people near to Zelenski, and potentially against himself, are likely to soon be published.
>They will demonstrate that the president has lost the ability to protect those who work with him.
>In consequence the majority of his party in parliament is shrinking (machine translation):
<People's Deputy Dmytro Kostyuk announced from the rostrum of the Verkhovna Rada that he was leaving the Servants of the People faction due to the situation with the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine.
<According to him, deputies were forced to vote for the draft law on depriving the NABU and SAPO of their powers, threatening them with criminal cases. He himself also supported this bill a week ago. …
<Now the faction formally consists of 231 deputies, which gives "Servant of the People" the rights of a mono-majority coalition. [..] However, if six people leave the faction, its number will be reduced, it will be less than the required 226 votes, and thus the ruling mono-majority will disappear.
>The opposition, with former president Petro Poroshenko in the lead, will soon be able to clip the president's wings.
>The political chaos in Kiev is reinforced by the catastrophic situation on the battle field. There are four significant population centers which are likely to fall under Russian control within the next month.1. Kupiansk (pre-war population 26,000) - The Russian forces are pressing from the north towards the west of the city to cut its main supply line.
2. Siversk (pre-war population 10,000) - Russian forces have captured large parts of the woods north of Siversk and are now moving in from all sides.
3. Konstantinivka (pre-war population 8,500) - Russian forces are pushing west from the finally taken Chasiv-Yar agglomeration to cut the northern supply line to Konstantinivka. Russian forces southwest of the city are moving northward for the same purpose.
4. Prokovsk (pre-war population 85,000) - Ukrainian defense lines around and within the city have broken down. Russian forces are already in the city. Supply and exit routes to the north and west are barely passable.
>The Ukrainian forces lack infantry. Some Ukrainian brigades have less than 100 people to man several miles long defense lines. There is a severe lack of mortar and artillery ammunition. The Russian side has more and better drones available in higher numbers. The recent re-organization of the Ukrainian army into corps sized structures has only increase the organizational chaos.
>The Ukrainian army, like the Ukrainian state, is in the process of falling apart. >>2412894It's extremely unlikely that Blumpf gives any credence to Medvedev's usual blowhard comments, so if he's really repositioning nuclear subs, I'd bet on either
1. he's rolling out his madman scheme again to try getting his way in the negotiations.
2. the subs are being repositioned for some major offensive operation against Russia, and Blumpf thinks he's cleverly concealing this by framing it as a defensive maneuver 'cuz Medvedev'.
>>2412441>if the US or EU-skeptic Germany or France can provide concessions then the strategic considerations would shift again.You mean the same two countries that are even more aggressive against Russia than the US itself?
>Russia still isn't configured to be the gas field for China and India, and much of its infrastructure was built on the premise of primarily supplying Europe with energyWhich has been changing. The Russian government is investing heavily in creating infrastructure towards China and building up river infrastructure to bypass Europe. Putin and his successors are doing a greater shift not seen since Peter the Great
>if the West can get Russia to pivot itself against China in exchange for gibs why wouldn't they take that? because of muh strategic partnerships?Like the gibs that Trump offered? What gibs can be exchanged that they haven't offered already? They have been saying this for the past three years that the gas station Russians will bend the knee to gibs and the war will be over.The West strategic interests do not align with Russia and its clear through these talks that it cannot be compromised. Gibs are not going to work unless NATO surrenders its position in Ukraine and eventually Eastern Europe which they will refuse to do even if they have to take down the veil of democracy like in Romania
>what did Russia do to help Iran this past year? isn't Iran going to China now for fighter jets and AA systems?Iran literally refused some fighter jets from Russia. Iran asked for the help that they wanted and Russia was not going to stomp on their sovereignty.
>out of all the BRICS countries the Russian state is by far the most strategically contingent, even moreso than IndiaIndia and Brazil have more issues with BRICS at the moment than Russia and China. It is hard pressed to find a scenario where Russia will do a 360 to take down China with the US and western allies. Just think of how ridiculous that would be when the Russian government already written 10 year plans towards investing Eastward and getting closer with the DPRK when they wanted to be more distant when they wanted to reconcile with the West.
>>2413251https://www.quora.com/What-did-Putin-mean-by-Men-in-dark-suits-rule-the-USA-in-a-recent-interview>I have already talked with one US President, and with another, and with the third - Presidents come and go, but the policy does not change. Do you know why? Because the power of the bureaucracy is very strong. The person gets elected, he comes with some ideas, and then people come to him with briefcases, well dressed and in dark suits, like mine, but not with a red tie, but with black or dark blue, and they begin to explain what he should do - and everything changes at once. This happens from one administration to the next. >>2413251It's "computer, play…", like in Star Trek
unless you want to broadcast to the world you are an Apple consumer
Also yes, this is zigga territory and don't you forget it
Ceterum censeo Putin is (or was) more optimistic than I about european independence
>>2413267>unless you want to broadcast to the world you are an Apple consumerI don't use Apple shits because I just use windows so I only use android. I hate Apple. I had to use those stupid ass computers in the computer lab with the 1 button mouses. Apple shit is beyond retarded.
>Ceterum censeo Putin is (or was) more optimistic than I about european independenceYeah I know about most of his opining about this.
>>2413203Why is Medvedev quoting Trump on "walking dead"? Where did he get that quote that made him start hinting at Russia's dead-hand system? Did Trump publicly call the Russian leaders the "walking dead" or something…or was it in private?
See also Zelensky suddenly piping up in recent days about "regime change" again. It's been a long time since he's done that because the Biden admin told him to shut it.
Trump is definitely simple-minded enough to think offing Russia's leaders will give him what he wants, and he's also simple-minded enough to think that he can dance around US culpability if the Ukrainian proxy claims credit for the attack, probably expecting that only Zelensky would take the blowback, which would give another angle on all this Zaluzhny shit the West has been running lately.
>>2413321 (me)
I can shoot down my own schizo theory a little: apparently Medvedev was referring to the Walking Dead TV show as a fav of Trump's or something? I'm not American. Can some of you "MAGAcoms" tell me the connection between Trump and this TV show?
>>2413328Dropped it a long time ago
I just know one of my favorite reaction pics of all time is from there
>>2413327>“Do you know what happened to the Romans?” Nixon asked. “The last six Roman emporers were fags.” “The Russians,
____ it, they root them [homosexuals] out, they don’t let them around at all,” Nixon said. “I don’t know what they do with them.” Part of the answer to that question may lie in the archives of the Communist International in the former Soviet Union.
>. “You see, homosexuality, dope, uh, immorality in general: These are the enemies of strong societies,” Nixon pointed out. “That’s why the Communists and the left-wingers are pushing it.”
>“They’re trying to destroy us.”
<“The upper class in San Francisco is that way. The Bohemian Grove that I attend from time to time-the Easterners and the others would come there-but it is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine, the San Francisco crowd that goes in there. It's just terrible. I mean, I don't even want to shake hands with anybody from San Francisco…You know one of the reasons that fashions have made women look so terrible is because the goddammned designers hate women. Now that's the truth. You watch…some if those fellows, they have the flat-chested thing with horrible looking styles they run. That was really the designers taking it out on the women. I'm sure of that.” >>2412441>there are no permanent strategic interests.That's not what you are arguing. You are claiming there's going to be such a power vacuum after Putin that there will be a crisis in Russia's position that results in it giving up a great power role in emergent multipolarity for a Christian alliance against it. The contradictions in which are papered over by cultural idealism on your part but projected onto Russia. Those contradictions are
1. America is a garbage partner. Russia can see how it treats Europe as the US intensifies competition with Russia, such as in the arctic, and destabilizes the middle east. It would isolate Russia from the world while making it insecure
2. American vassalage and a Christian Europe are incapable of reintegrating Russia into Europe (which has nosedived in value as the continent declines + energy ties have always been a political liability that fed Western calculus it could force NATO expansion) and settling the Ukraine crisis. Even with some kind of fantastic ideological alignment, religion would not overcome the antagonism between Russia and butthurt belters. The alliance would self-divide like Europe already did
3. This pivot comes at the expense of the independence and sanctions resilience afforded by the multipolarity of BRICS, which allowed Russia to dodge the fait accompli of inevitable Westernization that would force it to accept NATO expansion and reverse Putinism
Russia was previously cornered and defeated absent a rising China. The latter is what enabled Russia to ultimately oppose NATO expansion in a way it couldn't in the 90s and 2000s. Ties to China are also fundamentally unlike the vassalage demanded by the US, which ties business to the politics of global hegemony, and BRICS allows Russia to navigate between India and China first to secure its own independence and second to manage the antagonism between India and China. The war has cemented all of this.
Nobody except people on the internet or the Democrat party arguing a Russiagate far-right international, which is really a way of coping with the global populist backlash to globalization and libs merging with neocons, believe Russia is breaking with this path. There is no trend of publications or thinkers in the West or Russia claiming this is a possibility. It was an ideological construct completely shattered after 2022 when we got a look at Russia's real strategic ties that enable it to survive and continue with or without Putin.
I'm not sure why you are citing Iran as an example of anything. Iran was offered defense ties by Russia but rejected them out of fear of antagonizing the US. Syria is also not a counterexample, it was not thrown away due to Donbass but instead lost despite Russian efforts due to the sanctions and decay of the Ba'athist state. Russia (and Iran) spent the last days warning Syria and pressuring it to negotiate with Turkey. Anything further at that point would've required Russia to fight the war in Syria itself, which was impossible
>>2413339Don't know why I can only find these shitty articles with quotes instead of transcripts, then everything is pay-walled on top.:
https://archive.is/GK3U5#selection-1900.0-1900.1>“Archie is sitting here with his hippie son-in-law, married to the screwball daughter,” Nixon relates. “The son-in-law apparently goes both ways. This guy (enters). He’s obviously queer, wears an ascot, but not offensively so. Very clever. Uses nice language. Shows pictures of his parents. And so Arch goes down to the bar. Sees his best friend, who used to play professional football. Virile, strong, this and that. Then the fairy comes into the bar.”
<Nixon feels compelled to tell his chums: “I don’t mind the homosexuality, I understand it . . . Nevertheless, goddamn, I don’t think you glorify it on public television, homosexuality, even more than you glorify whores. We all know we have weaknesses. But, goddamn it, what do you think that does to kids? You know what happened to the Greeks! Homosexuality destroyed them. Sure, Aristotle was a homo. We all know that so was Socrates.”
<“But he never had the influence television had,” Ehrlichman says, apparently referring to Socrates.
>“You know what happened to the Romans?” says Professor Nixon. “The last six Roman emperors were fags. Neither in a public way. You know what happened to the popes? They (had sex with) the nuns, that’s been goin’ on for years, centuries. But the Catholic Church went to hell, three or four centuries ago. It was homosexual, and it had to be cleaned out. That’s what’s happened to Britain, it happened earlier to France.”
>“Let’s look at the strong societies,” says Nixon. “The Russians. Goddamn, they root ’em out. They don’t let ’em around at all. I don’t know what they do with them. Look at this country. You think the Russians allow dope? Homosexuality, dope, immorality are the enemies of strong societies. That’s why the communists and left-wingers are clinging to one another. They’re trying to destroy us. I know Moynihan will disagree with this, (Atty. Gen. John) Mitchell will, and Garment will. But, goddamn, we have to stand up to this.”
<“It’s fatal liberality,” declares Ehrlichman, ever the sycophant.
>“Huh?” says Nixon.
<“It’s fatal liberality,” says Ehrlichman. “And with its use on television, it has such leverage.”
>Nixon asks Ehrlichman to consider northern California. “You know what’s happened.”
<“San Francisco has just gone clear over,” says Ehrlichman.
>“But it’s not just the ratty part of town,” says Nixon. “The upper class in San Francisco is that way. The Bohemian Grove (an elite, secrecy-filled gathering outside San Francisco), which I attend from time to time. It is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine, with that San Francisco crowd. I can’t shake hands with anybody from San Francisco.”
>Nixon finishes things off by turning into an observer of ladies’ fashions.
>“Decorators. They got to do something. But we don’t have to glorify it,” says Nixon. “You know one of the reasons fashions have made women look so terrible is because the goddamned designers hate women. Designers taking it out on the women. Now they’re trying to get some more sexy things coming on again.”
<“Hot pants,” says Ehrlichman.
>“Jesus Christ,” murmurs the president.You know he was raised Quaker?
>>2412894no, what are
YOU going to do when we build our Posada comuna? Submit to Posada, be a saboteur, frame Russians, initiate the final space dolphin communist revolution.
>>2413120the fact that the orange potato decided to bite the bait, it's hilarious. there's no 1, and 2, for trump, because people deluded like that doesn't have a plan.
>>2413216>Putin and his successors are doing a greater shift not seen since Peter the GreatIt's sad that after Stalin, no one did a major geopolitical shift towards China.
>>2413342>>2413343is he still sucking trump's cock?
>Trump is being advised by Russophobesoh, that answers the question.
it's never the president, a con, a functional illiterate, who takes its own decisions and it's a 80 years old man, no, it's the "advisors".
>>2413339>>2413347he's like your average homophobic grandpa. all the time obsessed with them, to the point he might be a secret homo.
>>2413446oh, so it's like:
>homo society destruction not for me, but for thee. >>2413625>is he still sucking trump's cock?STAGES OF 'WAIT FOR DRUMPF'
1. "Based Trump is going to
____"
2. "Man, Trump is getting bad intel/advice." <== Ritter is still stuck at this point, while most MAGA-friendly Ziggas have progressed to…
3. "The buck stops with Trump, and he's made Biden's war his war."
>>2413554China definitely won't yield to US pressure, but I'm not confident in India standing its ground for longer than two weeks.
There's literally no reason to give Trump what he wants, and yet he's second only to Zelensky in getting everything he wants by whining enough and making enough noise.
>>2413975I think i'm done with the idea he ever had good "instincts". What he had is rhetoric. He needed to create some counter-narrative to Biden's signature policy (Ukraine) and complicate that policy for Biden/Harris. He also knew that voters tend to like the idea of getting out of costly wars and candidates who run as anti-war usually win (Obama and Bush both did, as did Trump 1). His position on Ukraine was always incoherent and unprincipled.
Trump is a bullshit artist and a con-man who's only real skill or real instinct is knowing how to read a room and dupe rubes into thinking he's on their side.
>>2414060I think all of this can be true at once. Trump is Trump, he can both have good instincts and see all crises of decline as a showman's chance for personal rule, which fails due to the incoherence you mention. This means he was pretty much alone among his peers in disowning the Ukraine war from the outset. Then he makes grand claims about ending it, and finally fails miserably because he has no real understanding or interest.
So on the one hand neocons defected for real reasons (ideological break), and then Trump employs them anyway for real reasons (loyalty over ideology). With Russia and to a lesser extent China, he will not care if you are a democracy or a dictatorship and will engage diplomatically with all. He will also be incapable of doing the actual diplomacy. He will turn his fiercely loyal base against traditional US policies, then fail to deliver anything for them as they're dragged back to war anyway. He'll be afraid of war with Iran in the first term, then get jealous of Israel's spotlight in the second and strike Iran
He just adds to the growing chaos he recognizes. He demoralizes even as he recognizes low national spirit
>>2414056I dunno but he's very queeny and loves Rococo and musicals.
>>2414140Vid
>>2412692The thing, is that at least here, the MSMS basically ignores the battlefield entirely. It's ridiculous, they havepnt shown a map of Ukraine or reported on anything in the war besides airstrikes for like two years now. There is like an unspoken rule to characterize the war in terms only outside of the actual battlefield since the annexation and that one counteroffensive back then.
Eventually, they are gonna have to turn around and be like
>"BTW all of this was happening. ">"And you gotta be super mad about it, but we chose not to report on it all this time , for no particular reason.">"So, anyway, here is what you need to know…"Which fair enough, they can do with Sudan or Ethiopia, but Ukraine is also in the news every single day. They go out of the way to put the Ukraine side by side with Israel, as well. So IDK how bad it is for Ukraine but the coverage reeks of desperation.
>>2413509>>Russian President Medvedev Dances to American BoyI want him to do this one
>>2414272Trump will be responsible for killing more Russians with American weapons than any other American president and his approval ratings with Ziggers will go up.
Apparently Russian spetznaz has captured two British colonels
https://x.com/peacemaket71/status/1951349432353697887
>Britain is raging! Its officers were captured by Russian special forces in Ochakiv - Russian fighters penetrated the Ukrainian rear in boats… new details During the operation, called "Skat-12", British officers were captured helping Ukrainian armed forces guide missiles and drones, as well as carry out cyber attacks. Military channels (Militarist, Krymsky Front and many others) inform that an operation by Russian special forces Skat-12 took place in Ochakiv recently. It was prepared for almost two months, including monitoring the object using technical means and news channels. As a result, during the operation, our fighters landed on several boats and penetrated the command center of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. There they captured British soldiers who coordinated the use of British missiles and drones. It is possible that they are also related to the biggest cyber attacks on our infrastructure, especially on Aeroflot. Britain is furiously demanding the return of its citizens, claiming they are mere tourists interested in maritime history. The prisoners include Colonel Edward Blake, a Special Psychological Operations Unit officer, Lieutenant Colonel Richard Carroll and another unidentified officer, believed to be an MI6 intelligence officer who acted as a cyber security adviser. From the moment our special forces landed on the shore until the prisoners were loaded onto the ship and transferred to the base, no more than half an hour passed. On the same day, the British Foreign Office contacted the Russian Ministry of Defense through unofficial channels with a request for the return of British officers who had gone "missing" in Ukraine. London claims that their soldiers were on vacation and came to Ukraine for tourist purposes. They found themselves in Ochakiv completely by chance: they were interested in the history of the navy and wanted to visit the coast where battles took place during the Second World War. However, instead of Ochakiv's historical maps, the detained "tourists" found maps of strategic objects on Russian territory, Russian air defense plans, secret instructions on interaction with Ukrainian drone operators, as well as disks with encrypted data and records of negotiations with the British General Staff. That is why Russian Defense Minister Andrey Belousov allegedly replied to the British that their officers are not subject to exchange: the West will not return them in Red Cross planes. Russia will no longer tolerate covert interventions and hybrid provocations. Instead, he intends to bring British officers to justice for taking part in military actions against our country. Emergency closed meetings are currently being held in the UK to develop a strategy for the way forward Experts note that the Skat-12 operation became part of the new Russian military doctrine, which aims "to proactively control the battlefield": "Strikes are carried out first and without warning, attack strategy in all directions. The Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) received a new directive: 'Russia no longer waits, but acts first.' The task of the special forces is to act covertly and effectively, instill fear among NATO officers and demotivate them in the issue of providing assistance to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.">>2414266no. Some vaguely wanted him because he was the president of chaos and acceleration of us empire decline. And many responded it wouldnt change much anyway.
its amazing how one or two retards spouting shit will make people think there is somehow a consensus on a fucking anonymous imageboard.
>>2414350 (You)
>>2414353 (You)
lol (You) are so mad
https://banderalobby.substack.com/p/sorosites-and-banderitesWorth to read.
<Sorosites and Banderites>The OUN-B, or “Banderite” faction of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, which never ceased to exist since the 1940s, recently denounced Volodymyr Zelensky’s controversial law that would have more or less put Ukraine’s top anti-corruption agencies under his control.>With the so-called “Sorosites” (a pejorative term for Ukrainian “anti-corruption activists” and journalists beholden to grants from NATO governments and western-funded NGOs) supporting the first major protests against Zelenky’s wartime government, I thought I should finally write something about the Banderites’ relationship with Ukraine’s influential “anticorruption community.”
>Take for example Vitaly Shabunin (picrel, 1, 2 far right of the frame), “Ukraine’s most prominent anti-corruption activist.” He co-founded the “Anti-Corruption Action Center” (AntAC), largely financed by the US and EU governments, as well as George Soros’ International Renaissance Foundation. It just so happens that this famous “Sorosite”was an early member of the OUN-B’s far-right Youth Nationalist Congress (est. 2001), according to his friend Yaroslav Yurchyshyn, a Banderite politician and former “anti-corruption activist” who led Transparency International Ukraine before joining parliament in 2019.
>Earlier this month, police raided Shabunin’s home, and mobilized him, outraging “civil society” and “friends of Ukraine” around the world. kek
>“Events in Ukraine” by Peter Korotaev, recently summarized the Shabunin saga in this way: “The liberals have chosen him as their leader in the struggle against Zelensky, who they are now attacking as a miniature Putin because of his ruthless (in fact, rather lackluster) efforts to subject some of them to the same standards as the rest of the population.”
>As he explains, the so-called Sorosites are supposed to “function as the local colonial administration of the US,” and their beloved anticorruption organs are actually “instruments of colonial control set up by Washington.”
>Peter has been covering “Shabunin-gate” for over a year, such as last summer: “According to strana, Zelensky and his entourage are displeased with attempts by US ambassador Bridget Brinks to protect figures like Shabunin.” Meanwhile, “The head of the Anti-Corruption Centre (AntAC) is accused of driving around Kiev on a Nissan Pathfinder which was purchased on the basis of donations for the AFU [Armed Forces of Ukraine]. The car was meant to be used in the Donbass.”
>“What if the Sorosites are right to fear the Georgian scenario?” asked a post from Events in Ukraine about the liberal protests against bill no. 12414. “What if Zelensky is purging them in preparation for some kind of agreement with Russia?” This is a tantalizing idea, considering that Sorosites and Banderites seem to be united in their conviction that Ukraine and Russia should fight to the death, but Zelensky has already backed down.
>As the situation gets worse for Ukraine, militant culture warriors are still planning the “decolonization” of Russia while avoiding the frontlines. Look no further than Yurchyshyn’s parliamentary commission to “Make Russia Small Again,” and the “International Center for Ukrainian Victory” that a friend of the “Bandera Lobby” co-founded with AntAC leaders.
>“President Discussed the Victory Plan with Representatives of Ukraine’s Civil Society,” Zelensky’s office reported last October. Co-founders of the International Center for Ukrainian Victory (ICUV) attended the meeting, including Hanna Hopko, a former member of parliament (2014-19). That evening, Zelensky caused a stir by wearing one of the shirts he received from ICUV leaders that said “Make Russia Small Again.” Perhaps for him it was a joke, but for others, like Hopko and the Banderites, it is a serious cause.
>It’s necessary to return to the topic of the Reanimation Package of Reforms (RPR) Coalition established in 2014 after the “Maidan” revolution, which I’ve written about several times on this blog and Defending History since 2020. ICUV co-founder Olena Halushka, for example, the head of international relations for AntAC, had the same job in the RPR Coalition.
>With funding from USAID, Global Affairs Canada, the EU Delegation to Ukraine, the United Nations Development Program, and others, the RPR Coalition at least used to be the “largest and most visible reform network” in Ukraine. According to its website, “With the RPR’s advocacy support, revolutionary laws were adopted concerning anti-corruption, public broadcasting, restoring trust in the judicial system, higher education, and others. [Original emphasis]” The “other” areas included “national memory policy,” which the RPR delegated to its Banderite “experts” from the Lviv-based “Center for Research of the Liberation Movement,” an OUN-B front group. >>2414413 (me)
cont.
https://banderalobby.substack.com/p/sorosites-and-banderites>(Meanwhile, as told by Wikipedia, the US and EU-funded AntAC “assisted Ukraine’s newly elected parliament in developing quality anti-corruption legislation, including laws establishing the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine, Special Anti-Corruption Prosecutor’s Office, National Agency on Corruption Prevention, the High Anti Corruption Court open property registers, and electronic register of asset declarations of public officials.”)
>Hanna Hopko >>2414413 (third picture, far left red circle and 1st picrel in this post), the founding RPR coordinator, joined parliament in 2014, quickly becoming the chair of its foreign affairs committee and a hardline pro-western politician. That year, Foreign Policy magazine named Hopko in its annual list of “100 Leading Global Thinkers,” she completed a “Leadership Seminar” at Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service, and the US-funded National Democratic Institute (NDI) recognized her with its annual “Democracy Award.” Hopko gave Vice President Joe Biden a tour of Kyiv in June, and Biden introduced her at the NDI’s Democracy Award Dinner in December: “she’s not only smart, she’s tough, she knows … Ukraine has been a kleptocracy.” Soon she joined the steering board of the World Economic Forum’s “New Economic Vision for Ukraine.”
>Hanna Hopko allied with the Banderites before the 2019 elections that saw the rise of Volodymyr Zelensky and his “Servant of the People” party. That year she started to speak at conferences in Washington organized by an OUN-B front group, the “Center for US-Ukrainian Relations” (CUSUR), which is supposedly committed to “combating corruption” in Ukraine. Hopko’s friend from Australia, OUN-B leader Stefan Romaniw (second picrel), who got to know to her as a vice president of the Ukrainian World Congress, introduced Hopko at the June 2019 CUSUR event as someone who “just about lives here now in America.” Last year Hopko mourned Romaniw (rot in hell, bozo) as “an example of infinite, sacrificial and active love for Ukraine.”
>Less than three weeks before the new president’s party dominated the 2019 parliamentary elections in Ukraine, flushing out Hopko and many other nationalists, “the representatives of Ukrainian civil society” from the RPR Coalition drafted their “Toronto Principles” for the “Ukraine Reform Conference” that the Canadian government hosted in early July. (Some priorities: “Improve the effectiveness of anticorruption infrastructure,” “Develop and protect civil society,” “Realize cultural and national memory.”) One of the highlights of the conference was a conversation between Hanna Hopko and the Canadian foreign minister, Chrystia Freeland. Whereas Freeland has struggled to navigate the memory war, in 2018, Hopko co-sponsored an RPR-drafted bill with OUN-B leader Oleh Medunitsya that rehabilitated veterans of the OUN and its Ukrainian Insurgent Army.
>By 2020, Hopko supported the Banderite-led “Capitulation Resistance Movement” (2019-22) and more menacing protests spearheaded by the Azov movement. As the far-right increasingly threatened Zelensky with regime change, Hopko described his first year in power as the “year of [pro-Russian] revanche.” In the final days of 2019, she denounced a prisoner swap between Russia and Ukraine as “revanche, betrayal and capitulation packaged as a move to save human lives.” Meanwhile, AntAC, Transparency International Ukraine, and allied NGOs warned, “Ukraine risks making its justice system a hostage of the demands of the aggressor state.” >>2414415 (me)
>>2414413 (me)
cont.
>Hopko’s star rose further among the “friends of Ukraine” as the new head of “ANTS,” a “National Interest Advocacy Network” easily confused with AntAC. It was in 2021 that Hopko, ANTS and AntAC first organized a USAID and EU-funded “Zero Corruption” conference in Kyiv, including speeches from USAID administrator Samantha Power, some zealously “pro-Ukraine” members of Congress, and Volodymyr Zelensky himself. The 2022 conference featured more officials from Kyiv, Washington, and European capitals.
>Soon after the Russian invasion, Hanna Hopko co-founded the International Center for Ukrainian Victory with her friends from AntAC, Daria Kaleniuk (the executive director) and Olena Halushka (head of international relations). Hopko and Kaleniuk became loud proponents for a no-fly zone in Ukraine, to be enforced by NATO. Opinion polls indicated that a large majority of people in the US supported this idea, apparently not understanding the implications. Even politicians like Marco Rubio recognized that it would mean “starting World War III.”
>In 2022, AntAC received a “Democracy Award” from one of its sponsors, the US-funded National Endowment for Democracy (NED), which noted that AntAC is a “NED grantee” that “organized protests and advocacy actions in cities including Paris, Berlin, Brussels, and Washington, DC.” The “Center for Civil Liberties” in Ukraine, another recipient of the 2022 NED Democracy Award, funded by the US, EU and Soros, even won the Nobel Peace Prize that year, despite endorsing NATO military intervention in Ukraine.
>AntAC and ICUV co-founder Daria Kaleniuk (second pic, featuring with BoJo) famously “berated” the British leader Boris Johnson during a visit to Poland, about a week after the invasion. “We are asking for the no-fly zone, we are seeing response that it will trigger World War III, but what is the alternative, Mr. Prime Minister? … You’re coming to Poland, you’re not coming to Kyiv, Prime Minister, you are not coming to Lviv, because you are afraid! Because NATO is not willing to defend [Ukraine], because NATO is afraid of World War III, but it is already starting!”
>Johnson admitted that “there is not enough that we can do … to help in the way that you want, and I’ve got to be honest about that, and when you talk about the no-fly zone, as I said to Volodymyr Zelensky, I think a couple times, unfortunately the implication of that is that the UK would be engaged in shooting down Russian planes, it would be engaged in direct combat with Russia.”
>In the coming days, Kaleniuk and Hopko met with Tony Blinken, the US Secretary of State—not for the first or the last time. Later that year, Kaleniuk testified to Congress’ Helsinki Commission that “Ukraine’s successful story in fighting corruption is the ultimate threat to Vladimir Putin and his kleptocratic regime,” LMAO and Hopko helped to explain why “Decolonizing Russia” is a “Moral and Strategic Imperative.”
>In April 2022, Hanna Hopko said “NATO should use its air defence systems to start protecting the sky over Ukraine,” and “NATO troops do not even need to set their foot in Ukraine.” Shortly after visiting NATO headquarters last October, and days before meeting Zelensky to hear about his “Victory Plan,” Hopko declared that actually, “NATO countries should send troops to Ukraine faster and lift restrictions on deep strikes [inside Russia] finally.”
>In 2023, Hopko explained, the choice is NATO membership for Ukraine, or World War III. Furthermore, “Ukrainian Victory means a defeat of [the] axis of evil, not just russian [sic].” In 2024, she attended the inauguration of Taiwan’s new president, and citing the Banderites’ favorite Washington think tank “expert” on Russian collapse, Hopko updated her social media followers, “There are several possible scenarios for NATO’s direct involvement in Ukraine and urgent preparations for action need to be made now, says Janusz Bugajski.” Last December, this prominent anticorruption activist proposed another solution: a pair of Trump Towers in a liberated Crimea, and one in Georgia, to “stabilize the region and dilute russian influence.” >>2414417 (me)
>>2414415 (me)
>>2414413 (me)
cont.
>It’s no coincidence that the anticorruption warriors are some of the greatest champions of a devastating proxy war in Ukraine. The eternal fight against corruption and the internal war against the “pro-Russian fifth column” is one and the same, at least for some Ukrainian nationalists and western officials.
>For Zelensky, the return of Biden must have portended “tough love” from the “friends of Ukraine” in Washington, and their best friends in Ukraine’s “anticorruption community.” As Biden’s former advisor Michael Carpenter (picrel, with Biden) predicted in 2017, if his boss won the presidency in 2020, he would be “openly pushing Ukraine’s political leaders to do more in combatting corruption.” In 2020, Carpenter told Politico, “We can give Ukraine all the Javelin missiles we want, but if Russia has political influence in that country through various corrupt relationships, then [they] are walking in through the back door while we’ve got our eyes glued to the front door.”
>According to Carpenter, “We have to promote Ukraine sovereignty in a holistic way, which means both military support and security assistance, but also helping Ukraine beat back this growing, by the way, Russian covert influence within its politics.” After Biden returned to the White House, Zelensky’s National Security and Defense Council sanctioned several “pro-Russian” TV stations, apparently triggering the build up of Russian troops that preceded the 2022 invasion.
>As the far-right Capitulation Resistance Movement got started in 2019, Carpenter described the peace process embraced by Zelensky as “the primary threat to Ukraine internally right now.” Speaking to the Banderite CUSUR, he suggested that the US should support separatist movements in Russia. With nationalists agitating for regime change in 2020, Carpenter made a speech in Kyiv, declaring that “we are at a crucial crossroads,” and Ukraine is “ground zero” for an epic “clash” between “liberal democracy” and “authoritarian oligarchy.” Under President Biden, this former managing director of the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement served as Ambassador to the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, and then Senior Director for Europe at the US National Security Council. As of 2025, he still says that Ukraine will recover all of its territory, it just might take several decades to accomplish. KEK >>2414442what's interesting is that zelya's government was trying to get these people to work at the front lines, I also think he was pressuring the other nato governments to keep the expenditures, the weapons supplies, threatening to cut their precious NGOs, but it backfired.
agent z now is blaming some other people, but the political damage hasn't ended. there are MPs leaving zelyas coalition, I remember one of them saying "you have put in jeopardy the eurobucks and the ameribucks with your stupid law", but it is interesting that these are two faces of the same coin: the nationalists that wanted these NGOs people to go the frontlines are the same people within the NGOs.
someone's gotta give at some point.
>>2414446Yeah, it's hard to imaging Zelensky has many cards left to play. What else can be do? Even giving in to nato demands and mobilizing the 18-24 demo or whatever, what is that gonna buy but a couple more weeks? And it seems like nato is done spending good money after bad.
Something does have to give, but what? Right now it seems like the first will be the front. Now it seems like nato is threatening kaliningrad, imo as a response to Russia positioning itself to take Ukraine. That seems like an empty threat though because it's hard to see them mustering up the gumption for a direct attack first of all, but second, even if they did take it it would mean open war with Russia, and none of them seem prepared for that long of a haul.
>>2414463>Now it seems like nato is threatening kaliningradnah, that's an empty threat.
>Something does have to give, but what?my bet is as a follows: zeya and the west will propose an armistice, the military will hang up publicly zelya for treason, nazilushny takes over, installs iron grip dictatorship, nafo fellas inundate what's left of Ukraine's institutions, and they'll do a cope victory out of it by telling themselves that all of Ukraine will be theirs some day and that with it, Russia get balkanized.
Anyway, to put it in context, in historical perspective.
It's just amusing how the NATO propaganda turns with the wind. Fortunately for them, they have no historical consciousness whatsoever, or they'd feel very silly.
I was looking up nuclear doctrine in the wake of this recent snafu (btw why should I be concerned about two nuclear subs*, who as far as I know, have a very low missile capacity), and the delusion is remarkable.
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/five-ways-nuclear-war-could-still-happen-10665The interesting part being
> if Russia and NATO come to blows in Europe – a scenario I thought ridiculous in the 1990s and now must reconsider – Russia will also loseSo we went from "Ruzzia will surely lose against the might of NATO" to "Ok they are winning but slow, Pyrrhically even"
Dignity, imagined supremacy intact.
*the correct response would be: Ok move your little subs to Epstein Island, you fat pedo, no one gives a shit
>>2414670In any case, India, China, Russia and the US have a nuclear triad (that we know of). Each could fuck everything up, subs are a relatively small component.
Ceterum censeo I never liked their civilization anyway, I am unbothered
>>2414672>Each could fuck everything up, subs are a relatively small component.You just make shit up.
>Sea-Based (SLBMs): Approximately 55% (981 warheads on Trident (D-5) SLBMs).The reason why is the subs are the most unbeatable. They can travel around undetected and launch from an unpredictable location closer to the target than anything else. The air flight path can be detected, the minutemen have to fly all the way from our territory and their locations are likely known beforehand.
>>2414675I mean I get that subs are useful for the purpose of waging total, world-ending war.
Also you got me, sometimes it is useful to just throw something out there and wait for what comes back ;)
I did not want to look up US nuke capability in more detail bc really I am over it. That was yesterday.
My point remains insofar as it does not matter at the moment whether they be stationed at Epstein Island or just off the coast of the US.
>>2414894>and are practically never being beat backWhich explains the consistency of body recovery, not many dead Russians you can get behind your lines.
I'm also not interested in propaganda, do you seriously believe Russians invented some sort of magic that breaks the general rule that combat is more costly for the offensive side rather than the defensive side?
Another thing is that they classified their demographic data which leads me to think they want to hide some massive losses (and emigration). And like I get it, a war like that can be sustained only with high popular support, the only real way Russia loses is when the money runs out while people start to ask too many questions and descend in the street, in this way it's no different than a colonial/imperialist war. The question is if hiding the true cost of the war can carry them until the end or if it will just blow up in their faces.
>>2414907>do you seriously…Always be followed by some retardation
Let's go over it one more time.
One of two things has to be the case:
Russia is taking land, without ever having to retreat, basically
This is I believe strategic superiority (and vast superiority, tho not a military head at all)
Russia is taking quite low losses
This would add tactical superiority
One or two logically has to be, there is no way around it, be the case.
They do not both have to necessarily be the case.
Now you bring in a bunch of stuff that doesn't interest me.
If you get it, good for you, like whatever
>>2414926No you come on
Do you not see all the clauses and so on
My next screed will be titled "Reading, the lost art"
Come on yourself
>>2414957>It does you moron. Then you should have no problem showing the same disparity in other wars.
The reality is the Ukraine war is not static (I have no idea why you are assuming one side is constantly retreating) and the conventional firepower gap explains casualty disparity.
>>2414558the pro ukrainian crowd also posts in /pol/ besides reddit.
>>2414628by the end of this year, and despite all the money funding, western equipment, three times rearmament of ukraine, and the countless mobilization waves, most likely Donetsk completely will be free of hohols. let's see Kherson and Zaporozhie.
>>2414667oh, well, that's exactly how their propaganda works, and they rely on idiotized people, highly propagandized, and with inexistent reading skills and critical thinking.
>>2414670>an entire countryyes, Tuvalu is a country, anon. and that's propaganda.
>>2414675you went from
one submarine to a flotilla of submarines, kek. you seem to be happy about a potential nuclear war.
>>2414878>>2414881Kursk status? considering this exchange table
>>2414477 and "Russians are taking territor"
:^)
fafo, you are not smart.
>>2414957If they're retreating they're not really doing a very good job of killing Russians are they
And you've got to be the fucking idiot to ignore how for months the ukies have been saying they're severely outnumbered and unable to man the lines properly if at all. The idea that you've got one 60 year old man gunning down waves of russian soldiers along the 5 kilometer corridor he's been left to guard is pure fantasticope.
>>2415125Again, they were already “drinking piss” because they didn’t want to suffer cultural genocide from the illegal NATO government in Kiev.
>erm resistance made life worse, so how is that a win?Is the reason why westoid leftists will never achieve anything
>>2415182Lmao
All those years of deepthroating Trump amounts to nothing
Fucking hindutva cvcks, this is what happens when you rely on the US
>>2415183here you go, scroll for yourself
https://x.com/search?q=mobilisation%20donbas%20until%3A2022-12-30&src=typed_query>>2415184what's your point of contention in relation to muscovites racially, civilisationally and culturally being asian (despite their whole 800 years of history desperately trying to break into europe, to the point of adopting a false slavic identity)?
>>2415239Well, if I were to be serious I'd say Europe is North Africa-West Asia
NAWA
Because in reality it is all one landmass
>>2415268Jules No!
That's an anime meme, you are embarrassing yourself
>>2415268>autocracies cannot win, they are inefficient and outdatedto
>democracies cannot be defeated, they can only defeat themselvesgardener hubris never changed. this is what sitting at the top of the capitalist world does to you
>>2415259I was expecting a nafo garbage heap in the comments and was pleasantly surprised.
Imo though Ukraine will cease to exist after this conflict. There can be nothing left over for reactionary westoids to try and reconquer at some later date. Ukrainian nationalism will be ripped out root and stem.
this whole article says that the sole use of caltrops is what it's causing this 66 to 1 casualties rates.
yes.
caltrops.
>Key to Ukraine’s remarkable defensive success here is the innovative revival of ancient Roman warfare tactics, particularly the widespread use of caltrops. Historically, Roman soldiers employed caltrops, metal devices designed with spikes positioned in all directions, as highly effective area-denial tools. Placed on roads, fields, or forest pathways, caltrops punctured enemy horses’ hooves, forced troops into open, vulnerable spaces, and slowed advancing units significantly, enabling Roman forces to saturate their exposed enemies with projectiles.
>Now, the Ukrainian 63rd Brigade applies this ancient tactic using drones to disperse modern versions of caltrops across Russian assault paths. Unlike traditional mines, caltrops are inexpensive, safe to deploy remotely, and difficult to detect through drone surveillance.
of course, that piece of crap is quoting direct Kiev's propaganda
I love the only facebook reply in the post:
ONLY 66?
>>2414878Ukraine was on offensive in late 2022 and in 2023.
Where are the corpses, oh so logical NAFOid? At best, Ukraine has achieved 1 to 1 exchange rates
With Zelensky (or his successor waiting in the wings) potentially ridding himself of the olds, (or other dregs of society, old people are objectively largely unproductive so this may be a desperate attempt to solve two problems at once, as it were) it got me thinking about old europe. Try to avoid that if you have a personal stake in it. It is not getting better from here. Now, if your loyalties lie with the oppressed peoples of the world, it still is objectively a positive development.
There are of course rumblings about the pension age and so on. If you are a relatively young person do not expect to get a pension, like ever. I think this compounds their problem in the way that young people feel the "social contract" is no longer in effect or being observed. Why give a shit if you are gonna get fucked and you know beyond a shadow of a doubt you will get fucked (indefinitely)? Weakness engenders more weakness.
Fun times ahead. I do not believe in any cyclical movement but hard times meet weak populace (or rather unmotivated and so on, which is objectively understandable, you can work your 50+ hour week and still just get boned, these are simply developments which are so far beyond you, it won't be fixed by rolling up your sleeves): Kaboom
>>2415979Now that I learned this just this moment, it is practically his biggest failing. He should take your money, labor aristo.
I will always defend the cannibalization of the west even while I am living it. Just the kinda guy I am.
They say the fall of empires is terrible but it is a beautiful thing.
Of course fundamentally there is always the possibility of good things happening (revolution and so on) but I leave it out here somewhat deliberately, I just do not have faith in the fat and complacent gardener.
>>2415811666
Don't you see?
Ronald Wilson Reagan
Wake up crakkkaz (woopsie doopsie I didn't wanna use that word no more)
>>2416139Well, I can't say anything about now, not even an educated guess, I do not follow the day-to-day.
But eventually, yes.
All things will be righted. We see a clear trajectory, medium to long-term
God's in his heaven, all's right with the world.
The red sun rises in the east.
The west will experience decline, cannibalization, brazilianization, balkanization possibly as well, sooner rather than later.
>>2416206I dunno, Rio?
Depends on your taste, language, means (marketable skills, wealth/savings) of course etc.
>>2416226>rememberReluctantly
But nice to know he's totally doing it for free.
At least a modicum of justice may exist sometimes in the world.
>>2416327Well I'd simply say they are inconsequential and what little I've heard from them disconnected to the point of autism
but if you ask so directly, yes.
They absolutely are.
>>2416336Don't know in detail but from what I've heard "Harden your heart, Vova"
Then there is of course several of those like in any country (or dozens, or possibly hundreds even).
>>2416327>ICP says this is an interimperialist conflict. What are they, retards?nobody cares what left coms think of international issues
ironically the one point of superiority they're supposed to have over orthodox leftists they fail at
>>2416362He also approached Hamas and Iran to no avail
He's going wherever Trump stirs up trouble to offer useless dialogue
>>2416373i swear it's a holdover from a need to redeem the Red Army taking massive casualties in 1941-43. the idea that an army can learn to fight much better instead of just being a juggernaut that never changes and is always winning doesn't even occur to anons who are supposed to be steeped in historical materialism, and now the same disrespect they have for Red Army troops who had to suffer under a fascist invasion are placed on Russian assault troopers tasked with a totally unenviable job of taking fortified Ukrainian positions, and even their suffering and deaths are denied by these anons to make themselves feel better.
it just makes no sense to me. if you really followed this war and wanted Russia to win then you would respect the average Russian soldier and at least try to understand the absolute hell they have to go through. but no, there's almost none of that and just a nonchalance about how easy the war is going and how it's just a small advance to "save" lives when every advance for either side is a bloody, miserable slog.
>>2416226lel effortless USAID/NED income is no more, now he's shitposting from mom's basement
>unemployed> demands flat tax for rich fucksThere is no salvation for this brainwashed dipshit, he'd preach neoliberal talking points and cuck to the bourgeoisie while being homeless. SAD!
>>2416226imagine being such a huge cuck of the militaristic ideology and still find yourself living at your mom's basement.
he'd be happy to sit-tied naked on the tip of cruise missile if that's a missile named fuck Putin.
>Remember Gunther Fehlinger?of course, he's at the level of david d or warmonitor.
>>2416459they're not, they're asiatic; here's prime example - social contract:
europeans have demands for their country and accept the fact that the country has demands for them. therefor if unhappy they will go out and protest as it's expected of them to do their part.
russian social contract is akin to - country leaves me alone i let government do whatever it wants
you can check last thread how russians genuinely thought ukraine is going to fall apart because ukrs went out protesting dismantling anti-corruption (successfully btw)
they periodically gloat that as long as there isn't a mobilisation (meaning things don't affect them personally) everything is fine even itt
>>2416465stfu, you racist radlib. go neck yourself with your orientalism "muh Asiatic shepherded herd". Russians since 2014 saw how the banderites were doing what they were doing. As if Europeans went out to protest their policymakers that decided to take expensive US oil over cheap Russian oil, now causing thousands of industrial job cuts, massive energy deficit, in a continent with fucking snowy winters.
>you can check last thread how russians genuinely thought ukraine is going to fall apartno one actually said this
there's no "ukrainian government" it's a proxy, and the proxy doesn't fall apart whether zelya is gone or not.
>ukrs went out protesting dismantling anti-corruptionUKRS lmao, not nato NGOs that need that money to live and not be forcefully mobilized.
>they periodically gloat that as long as there isn't a mobilisationt. least salty nafo because of the thousands of videos of mobilized ukrainians.
>>2416318>Somehow this guy is the only likable person in the NATOcel sphere and I can’t explain itWhile the average outspoken NATOid feels like barely restrained fascists. Gunther feels more like Milhouse Van Houten tagged-along the wrong crowd, obliviously chasing validation from terrible people. Horrid implications of his crowd's ideas aside, he remains an unambitious low level toadie, happy to be there.Nobody can look at this man and fail to see the hustle.
Heckling Gunther feels like heckling a street performer who bizarrely chose to do the "Living statue" of a famous Nazi.
nafo bots will tell you straightforwardly to your face that
le asiatic horde is a cucked nation because they didn't revolt in Russia, while saying that Europe is the beacon of revolt and rebellion.
there's literally a wikipedia page that accounts of the economic crisis in Germany in which no German went protesting at large for the problem they created ("muh we are not involved in Ukraine", "anyway, here's a 100billion check to zelya") and somehow they want to look smart saying all of that above.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_economic_crisis_(2022%E2%80%93present)>>2417078other things to consider are "defenders advantage", ukr having much longer supply lines and worse medical, the 2 million army ukr started with that was completely rolled over and replaced, the precision of himars vs quantity, injured getting counted 3-4-5 times after redeploy, donbass volunteers and wagner not always being counted
still comes out 3:1 in russia favor, minimum
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