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Trump doesn't want to talk to Putin Edition

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-scotland-uk-starmer-eu-trade-deal/


Previous: >>2391679

Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine

https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323733
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323731
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323735
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323740

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ALWAYS APPROACH SOURCES CRITICALLY

Live maps and updates
DeepStateMap: https://deepstatemap.live
Events in Ukraine: https://eventsinukraine.substack.com/
SouthFront: https://southfront.press/category/all-articles/world/europe/ukraine/

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>Video Essays / Historical Background
📺 • Ukraine: The Avoidable War - Boy Boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4eNy4FCs8

📺 • Ukraine's Nazi Problem - The Marxist Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yZvWAwU5W4

📺 • America, Russia, and Ukraine's Far Right - Gravel Institute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0pyVJG7_6Q

📺 • The Nature of Putin's Russia and Its Causes (3-Part Series) - 1Dime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8d6Vzi7zYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zODWTfMwFGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zuygh9Mzuo

<Current Happenings

📺 • The Grayzone: https://www.youtube.com/@thegrayzone7996
📺 • DDGeopolitics: https://www.youtube.com/@DDGeopolitics
📺 • Defense Politics Asia: https://www.youtube.com/@DefensePoliticsAsia
📺 • The Duran: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdeMVChrumySxV9N1w0Au-w
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📺 • Military Summary: https://www.youtube.com/@militarysummary

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Is calling this conflict an interimperialist conflict a moralism? Also, what is the proper communist stance regarding this war?

So, which is it?

>>2406664
>what is the proper communist stance regarding this war?
not a communist per se but i think it's not accurate to call Russia imperialist, i would say at best you could make some argument towards sub-imperialist but do not think one can even be attempted to really call it imperialist.

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things are so grim for ukraine, that the orange derange is moving the 50 (now 40) days deadline to the next few days.

>>2406706
>The EU has fifty days to decide to buy a shitload of American energy before I start crashing this global economy
<Von Der Leyen cucks
>Okay now Russia has 10 or 12 days or whatever to surrender to Ukraine, I’m bored of this now, yawn
Feels a lot like when Trump was threatening to abandon the ungrateful Ukrainians who were the true agitators with their NATO membership nonsense, right up until they signed the particular deal he wanted.

>>2406664
I don't know, but I'd be uncomfortable with any framing that doesn't treat this conflict as a part of the Cold War and a result of US hegemony

>>2406724
I was also weighting in, pondering, whether the reduction of time was because of the EU bending down or what. the timing is very sus, but I am not sure exactly was what the US would do in both cases. trade imbalance? the US trade imbalance comes from China and other developing nations, where the US buys more knick-knacks for whatever reason and not of the overpriced products the EU sells to the US.
After all, the EU is incurring to trade imbalances, too, due to the financialization of the EU currency.

I guess it's just that he's angry that the EU was always vocally attacking trump, even keir starmer influencing the US elections against him, in a very UK collusion that would make the Russian collusion hoax to pale, so maybe it's just that: he wanted to humiliate the EU to finally keep the same thing biden was doing.

nothing changed, except the EU finally wagged their tail to trump.

here, for the record, we can see the nazi-slave owner pustula von der merde openly admitting to the question "What are the US concessions? What is the US giving up in the deal" that the US didn't give any concessions, didn't give up anything.

>>2406738 (me)
>>2406724
forgot the video of pustula von der merde addmitting that the can be very flexible negotiating with the US. bending-a-lot to the US, that is.

>The Kyiv Independent reports that Zelenskyy has imposed sanctions against Marjorie Taylor Greene, Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson, Elbridge Colby, Mike Lee, Mike Flynn and Don Trump Jr.
kek. I wonder

Which country is russia going to invade next?

>>2406763
Uranus, obviously.

>>2406763
Azerbaijan and Armenia at the same time.

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Interestingly, I managed to predict when Russia would launch an overarching offensive, way back in Dec 2024, for all the mistakes, I still did better than anyone here I believe. https://southfront.press/military-situation-in-ukraine-on-july-27-2025-maps-update/


>>2406738
>Trump announced on Sunday that the EU will also purchase $750 billion worth of US energy exports.
So iirc part of the punishment for Russia not surrendering in 50 days was slapping nations that “fund Russia’s war” with 100% tariffs was essentially targeted at nations that are selling Russian energy as an intermediary to EU nations, with the idea being those nations will balk and quit reselling Russian gas and oil entirely.

I think primarily Trump, with his America First bollocks, only cares about avoiding competition (especially when selling to its vassals) and Russia was undercutting the US even selling via an intermediary and a few EU states are very touchy about giving up Russian energy, so threatening to cut the EU entirely off from Russian energy results in a guaranteed purchase of nearly a trillion dollars worth of US energy by the EU, who will no doubt make the population foot the bill while allowing industry to purchase Russian energy as usual. If Trump in anyway rolls back his threats about targeting Russian energy intermediaries once this much shortened deadline passed, it will be because the US got to wet its beak in the European energy market and now no longer cares what the EU spends additionally on cheaper energy.

We also don’t know how much oil $750 billion actually buys in this deal, it could be a tablespoon, pleasant doing business with you, we don’t mind if you need to top yourself off with Russian oil if that’s not enough

>>2406778
Things are getting out of control in that region. Armenia wants to join NATO and Azerbaijan stabbed Russia in the back.

>>2406794
>with 100% tariffs was essentially targeted at nations that are selling Russian energy as an intermediary to EU nations, with the idea being those nations will balk and quit reselling Russian gas and oil entirely

the problem is, how can they prove that's Russian oil. Russia can buy through their partners around the world oil, mix it, and then resell it under shady operations, and make it untraceable. Also, the EU has large refineries specialized to process only Russian oil.
Worst case escenario, Russia processes those raw materials and re-sells the secondary raw materials as semi-processed goods, that then are parts of new hardware and components. Russia has that capability.
>If Trump in anyway rolls back his threats about targeting Russian energy intermediaries once this much shortened deadline passed, it will be because the US got to wet its beak in the European energy market and now no longer cares what the EU spends additionally on cheaper energy.
I don't think he will. He'll take the EU concession as a reason to further keeping the conflict, because all this reluctance was because the EU wasn't bending themselves too much.

>>2406805
now that DDR anon posted in the USAPOL, and he adamantly said that the EU isn't Germany, it's Kaja Kallas, the baltoids, and every other peripheral country directing the EU.
let remind that recently fridrich merz said that the EU diplomacy is directed, (against the EU constitutional andfoundational laws: by consensus and total unanimity), by who holds the power in it, saying that Germany will lead the EU diplomacy. that is, taking steps to further escalate the conflict against Russia.

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>>2406730
I'd be uncomfortable with any framing that doesn't treat WW1 as a part of the great power competition and a result of UK hegemony which means the German reich wasn't imperialist

>>2406773
>Russia launched an offensive
Nah you’re actually the most wrong propagating the cope that these movements are the result of additional concerted effort rather than just the start of Ukraine and NATO running out of men and material to expend in attritional warfare, thus their hitherto reluctance to retreat is becoming less of a choice made at their discretion.

>>2406853
>I'd be uncomfortable with any framing that doesn't treat WW1 as a part of the great power competition and a result of UK hegemony
true, except UK wasnt an hegemon like USA is today, they were simply the first among the imperialists.

>which means the German reich wasn't imperialist

shit, you guys still dont understand what is imperialism? how many times has it been explained in this thread?
just take a look at the economies of great powers in ww1 (or read lenin who did the work) and the relative size of their stock markets, and then compare it to today.

>>2406821
I think the EU is detached even from average Germans. Germany was after all hammered for dragging its feet after 2022, and shows a lot of disillusionment in polling with Ukraine.
The same detachment is seen with Israel
An international order is being held together increasingly despite the people under it, including those who benefited more than others, and yes it increasingly relies on utterly dependent vassal states and their historical victim mentality (stolen from europe and now wedded to it) for legitimacy.

>>2406853
WW1 was a direct consequence of the rise of imperialism by the 1870s and 1880s, and the present new cold war is indeed a resumption of the last. Russia and China are not imperialist, imperialist states remain united since the world wars.

>>2406867
>compare it to today.
Only the US is imperialist because they have more stock market, japan wasn't imperialist in WW2 because not enough stock market since imperialism is when stock market, also israel is not imperialist but putin agrees with me there

>>2406875
well, it is detached from average Germans, that doesn't mean the current vassal leader is very keen, eager in fact, in leading the German state to that point. And he was elected for that matter.

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>minus one UH-60 Black Hawk.

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Medvedev responding to Trump's threats.

>>2407020
He’s such a tart, everyone serious is lauding Russia’s extreme restraint while Dynamite Dima is talking like Putin nuked New Mexico as a warning shot at some point

>>2407105
good cop bad cop reoutine

>Trump doesn't want to talk to Putin Edition
notice how trump is step by step reverting to every Biden policy

>>2407107
Nah it’s the same pathology as cucktinposters, but whereas cucktinposters are like
>Just bomb a NATO base in Poland bro, tell them to put up or shut up
Medvedev talks as though that already happened at least once

>>2407109
Trump is turning out, unsurprisingly, to just be the plausible deniability wrt the US’s drastic turn towards tightening their grip on their vassals and their coffers.

Trump was the unlikely, larger than life, big personality, populist “accident” that so vulgarly flexed the US’s power over everyone, future US governments will surely apologise for this rather hostile anomaly in the “special relationship” with their vassals, for letting the dog through the net, but they will also regretfully concede that it’s already too late to reverse or compensate for, sowwy :3

>>2406796
speaking of which, now the EU says they aren't sure they can pay all that money to trump.
EU, such a jokistan. all bad unfunny theatrics.

>>2407161
seems like the eu sold themselves out to buy blump's loyalty to project ukraine and further escalation

>>2407020
Lol at medvecuck acting though on the internet but irl being the largest cuckold in the world second to Cucktin

>>2406763
All of them

>>2407396
Yea the cuck is the guy waging a war and winning lol


>>2407451
Just two more weeks lol

>>2406773
>Pokrovsk captured
Still hasn't happened lol

>>2407471
>If he doesn't win in two weeks he's not winning
You must struggle reading news headlines in the west. No wonder you're here coping

>>2407486
Maybe it will happen this decade and for this we celebrate.

>>2407545
This decade? You're an optimistic Zigger aren't you?

>Pokrovsk is stalling
We’re really back to this?

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Yeah let's talk about something else, like the relation both countries have with Palestine
>Putin condemned the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that sparked the Gaza war and said Israel had a right to defend itself, but also criticized Israel's response and said Israel should not besiege the Gaza Strip in the way Nazi Germany besieged Leningrad. Putin suggested that Russia could be a mediator in the conflict.[36]
>In December 2023, Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Russia's goals of "demilitarization" and "denazification" in Ukraine were similar to Israel's stated goals of defeating Hamas and extremism in Gaza.[37][38]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine%E2%80%93Russia_relations

And Ukraine
<Israel did not vote for a UN resolution calling on Russia to pay reparations for invading Ukraine.[17]
<During the Gaza war, Ukraine's Foreign Ministry condemned attacks on Palestinian civilians in Gaza and supported a two-state solution to the conflict.[18] More than 300 Ukrainian scholars, activists and artists expressed solidarity with Palestinians in an open letter.[19] Most of the Ukrainian community in Gaza was forced to flee the country because of the war.[20]
<On 2 June 2024, Zelensky reiterated Ukraine's support for a two-state solution. He remarked that, while Ukraine has supported Israel's right for self-defence against Hamas during the attacks in October 2023, during the humanitarian crisis Ukraine said that it is ready to help Gaza humanitarianly and it "will do everything so that Israel stops and civilians do not suffer."[21]
<On 18 July 2024, Ukraine sent a gift of 1,000 tons of its wheat flour to the Palestinian territories. According to the foreign ministry, the package will be enough to support more than 100,000 Palestinian families for a month.[22][23]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine%E2%80%93Ukraine_relations

Thoughts zion gang?

>>2406773
how does one 'liberate' a sovereign, foreign country?

>>2407571
When it's government ceased to be a liberal democracy like the Euros or Russia due to a Washington backed Nazi led coup

>>2407563
One country blamed the crisis on the lack of a two state solution and linked it to endless US wars in the middle east while pursuing security ties to Iran. The other had its leader try to visit Israel immediately in order to bridge Western aid to both and claim Israel as a state ideal as a bulwark for Western civilization.
>>2407571
>how does one 'liberate' a sovereign, foreign country?
It's pretty easy when said country claims the land but not the people inhabiting it, then wants to use the former to divide the world as the state regresses.

>>2407563
hamas is not palestine
hamas was created by idf to propagate islamism and obstruct the secular government in western bank. i wouldn't even be surprised if the october war was inspired by netanyahu himself as a means of cannibalizing the far right parties he was forced to co-rule with.
it's no wonder both countries are very close to israel - eastern europe is brimming with jews: zelensky's a full jew, putin's half jew.
hell, russians and (modern) jews are descended from the same people - khazars.

Bahkmut is stalling.

>>2407563
>tired and lame attempt at both-sidism
Russia is allied with Israel's regional enemies. It defended Syria for years against a joint US-Israeli-Turkish-VariousArabCuck attack while Ukraine aided the attack. It arms and helps defend Iran against Israeli attacks, while Ukraine aids the attacks.
Ukraine and Israel are both imperial proxies of the US empire. They are the same thing and fight for the same thing. They attack the same things, and it's almost always allies of Russia.
Russia has tried to maintain normal relations with Israel, basically riding the fence, but that's as far as it goes, and we'll see how long that lasts. It's a facade everyone seems ok playing along with for now.
But fuck words and posturing. Words are for politics and appearances. If you want to know what's what, look at the actions. And the actions tell you everything you need to know.

The west is Israel
This does not belong here but if you were to manage to take off your retard westoid blinders, it does turn out to be simple, after all.

>>2407571
First, it's not sovereign. It is a wholly owned dependency of US-NATO. A slave state, essentially.
Second, it was not a unified country but a divided one. That is why there was a civil war, and a contact line, and negotiations between warring sides that ended with a peace treaty (which Ukraine violated and refused to follow, causing the current war).
Ukraine as a country was taken over illegally and unconstitutionally by a criminal faction that could not gain the absolute power they sought through the normal process. So they aligned with foreign powers to seize it by force, disenfranchising a majority of the people who voted for the deposed. Then the criminal faction banned all meaningful opposition to itself, and especially candidates and parties popular among the people of the deposed government, to ensure those people would have no franchise or any say in the direction of state.
2014 was a usurpation of national sovereignty, a denial of the basic rights of large parts of the country and the establishment of a factional dictatorship. Subsequent elections were just a mirage that could only elect one or another element of the maidan movement and would always wind up with NATO-dictated policy no matter who won (see Zelensky the "peace candidate").
The areas of Ukraine that had their votes and rights stolen by the "revolution" and had to endure what was/is essentially an apartheid regime directed against them, can be reasonably called liberated when Russia boots out the usurpers.

>>2407560
Bro Ziggers have taken pokrovsk like three times this year ..

Homes with gas status, Zisters?

>>2407631
>civil war
Define civil war

Would there be a total russian death on the east of ukraine if people didnt form militias there?

>>2407659
>chatbot response

What is the communist position regarding donetsk and lugansk people's republics? Was it a prolerarian movement in nature?

>>2407670
No, but a left wing bonapartist movement nonetheless

>>2407603
Israel manoeuvered so Russia could keep its foreign syrian bases, they are basically allies

>>2407675
Whats a bonapartist?

Why did ukraine had military garrisons on crimea and eastern ukraine?


>>2407678
you should try to be less braindead. Russia's bases in Syria don't matter much anymore. The damage is already done. Israel already won there (with Ukraine's help). The fact that Ukraine (and the EU) are butthurt that nobody else wanted to force Russia out of the bases is their problem. Ukraine should be happy enough that it helped its role model Israel destroy another regional adversary and move a step closer to Greater Israel.

>>2407706
>Ukraine wants to help Greater Israel
Are we still posting this Zigger cope? Clearly Cucktin himself doesn't think this is true given that he still invites Netanyahu for the annual Victory Parade. I know you FSB types are trying hard as hell to appeal to /pol/ by pretending that the struggle against Ukraine is somehow also a struggle against Israel but everyone knows Israel gives zero shits about this conflict.

Russian bases in syria are anti-imperialist bases

>>2407710
>tankanon
>says zigger
Arent you a zigger yourself?

>>2407706
Putin has been sanctionning Iran until 2020 so he helped Israel becoming hegemonic in the region

>>2407712
Takes one to know one.

>>2407714
You saying z word is like black people saying n-word?

>>2407713
How was russia sanctioning iran?

>>2407718
Security council

>>2407716
It is. And just like how black people reclaimed the slur only us ziggers can use it without being called racist.

Imagine being so butthurt about Russia you have to pretend it's part of a zionist conspiracy kek

What does russia gain by supporting israel?

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>>2407727
How is it a conspiracy, they do it in the open

>>2407733
Russia is the leader of the world anti-zionism movement kys

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>>2407735
You mean Ukraine

>>2407733
>Russian President Vladimir Putin ignored Prince Charles and Benjamin Netanyahu

>>2407743
He wasn't ignoring bro yesterday on the phone when they were discussing about how to deal with Iran

>>2407747
almost as nefarious as mao meeting kissinger in 1972

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>>2407710
>Hello fellow tankies
>Zigger
>Cucktin
>Ur FSB

What Israel gets from Russia:
A parade invite

What Israel gets from Ukraine:
mitliary and intelligence assistance in attacking it's regional enemies (who happen to usually be Russian allies).

Guess which one our false-flagging /uhg/ friend tries to pass of as significant.

The fact is Ukraine is objectively and materially helping the cause of Greater Israel. It helped Israel attack and overthrow Syria. And it's helping Israel attack Iran. And it will keep doing so at every turn in the future.

Meanwhile Russia will continue trying to help Israel/Ukraine's victims defend themselves from the attacks.


>>2406937
>japan wasn't imperialist in WW2 because not enough stock market
why even bother responding if its to show you complete ignorance you retarded dumbfuck, japan stock market was similar to that of france in 1930 and became even bigger than it afterward
just admit you're an idiot with no ability to root an analysis in either reality or theory because you dont bother with either, hence you're only an useless shitposter


>>2407761
>Ukrainians holding one meeting thanking Israel for BTFO Iran because iran supplies drones to Russia is "military and intelligence assistance".
Not sure if mentally retarded or just an ESL unable to read English articles.

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>>2407773
Russia is imperialistically between italy and germany

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>>2407835
try reading better or stop lying to whitewash Ukraine.
the meeting was to discuss how Israel and Ukraine could cooperate in Israel's next attacks on Iran. Ukraine thanking Israel for launching a war of aggression against a sovereign state was just a courtesy between allies and fellow ethno-nationalists, not the point of the meeting.
Ukraine already helped Israel topple Syria, They need to discuss how Ukraine could better help Israel's next rounds of aggression and imperial expansion.
Meanwhile Russia will be talking with Iran about how to sure up its defenses against Israel/Ukraine's attacks.

>>2407835
>Ukrainians holding one meeting thanking Israel for BTFO Iran because iran supplies drones to Russia is "military and intelligence assistance
Lol if only. Ukraine has an interest in Israel destabilizing Iran because Russia relies on it for Caucasus stability. Idiot

>>2406426
>how many shells do they produce yearly

That's a good question. If I had to guess, not very many at all. In finland's military wiki page it lists some of their military assets, and there really isn't very much at all. I doubt they're cranking out shells.

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>>2407729
>What does russia gain by supporting israel?
Russia has a bunch of Jewish billionaires who have dual Russian-Israel citizenship and own businesses and high-end property in both countries, and they also use Israeli citizenship to shield their assets from Western sanctions (also Cyprus). Just follow the money. I'm not trying to kick Jews here but it's really funny that antisemitic /pol/ types who support Russia via the West think that they're fighting da Joos while converting to Orthodox Christianity or whatever they do.

Leftists can debate whether the war is inter-imperialist or not, but the way I've been thinking about it, the bourgeoisie is a "band of warring brothers" as Marx put it. Putin's job (as a Bonapartist leader) is to protect their wealth from other predatory capitalists in the world but also ordinary Russians who have been getting robbed.

Israel served a similar function for the U.S. during the Cold War as other "captive nations" groups did. The U.S. understood that nation-states (or potential nation-states like Ukraine) and Latvia/Estonia/Lithuania could serve as disintegrating forces for the Soviet Union. Nation-states are also useful vehicles for capitalism, as capital needs states for protection and expansion, and as tools to print money and to help stabilize the inevitable crises that occur, and they also need national states and borders to mask class divisions, split up workers, and raise armies to fight their wars over labor, markets and resources (which creates inter-imperialist rivalries). But the ultimate victory for capital in the last century was that Russia itself also went down this path, which might partly explain the Russian government's fascination with encouraging nationalism in Western countries. There are glowies in Russia who are projecting their own experiences in the late 20th century onto the U.S. when they see a couple of rednecks barking about Texas seccessionism.

10 DAYS UNTIL NAMEK EXPLODES

>>2407861
>Assad fell because of 20 Ukrainian drone operators doing training in Syria to avoid getting instantly deleted on the front lines.
Not sure if Ukrainian Nationalist who delusionally believes 20 Ukrainian soldiers can topple a nation or Schizo who escaped from the psych ward.

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Guess who's coming back and has all the SWAG

Is Ziggers' body ready?

>>2407722
that's…. that's not how the n-word works.

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>>2407563
you know you are a moron, when you ignore the fact that Russia's help in Syria, if anything, served to help Palestine.
Do yourself a favor and stab your rectum with a sword, because that's the only honorable way for you to commit seppuku.

>>2407563
I don't care what Putin does, or thinks or what flavor of retard cope the Russian state huffs or expresses to the public.

In actual reality, the RF has found itself in opposition to NATO when it comes to the cold war and the perpetuation of US hegemony. And their role in that conflict would be progressive, even if, in fact they were doing all the things that the western propaganda says. It just has nothing to do with the idealism you spout.

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>>2408340
of fucking course it's vogue doing these…

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ratio'ed.

>>2408340
>>2408481
so i guess MI6 has selected the next leader of sovereign democratic ukraine

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>>2408503
vogue-nazi-lovers.

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>>2408350
>PFLP … had their headquarters in Damascus.
The PFLP-GC did but they were a splinter group run by Syrian glowies.

You know a lot of Palestinians are not into Russia or Assad like you are right

>>2408578
yeah, they are more probably into HTS now they don't have any rights on Syria, you little moron.

>t.
>Syrian glowies.
>hfw
fucking moron.
go fuck yourself, and ask al-ziolani to keep intact the same rights that Syria gave to Palestinians under the law No. 260 (of 1956), one of the most generous things no other fucking Arab country did for Palestinians, preserved by Assad, kept thanks to the assistance of Russia, and in which Palestinians KNOW very well, HTS doesn't work for them, and never will as vidrel, MADE IN PALESTINE shows.

>>2408529
>swastika pillow covers
>every square inch covered by marble and and gilded
>gold threaded couches
>silky canopies
Fascism was kitsch.

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>>2408481
welcome back, goering

>>2408607
I think it's rough for them when globalization breaks down in ways we rather than liberals and nationalists predict. It's basically the whole bourgeois international system versus individual non-Western developing nations and this validates the view neocolonialism is what divides the world. This view also supposes a crisis of imperialism causing conflict that also predicts failure. You can see the implications for post 2014 Ukraine despite it being the genesis and russiagate and militarization of the West.

You have to work overtime to falsify this and overwrite with other divisions, thus Russia as part of a zionist alliance against Islam or an American one against China.

>>2408607
Praise to comrade al jolani for letting the pflp stay in damascus, anyway is ruzion at kiev yet?

>>2408578
A lot of Palestinians are the kind of Sunni retards who would rather kill Shias than not be genocided

>>2408652
>anyway is ruzion at kiev yet?
Trust me, you’re far more mad asking that than anyone is hearing it

TOTAL COLLAPSE IMMINENT

>>2408707
I think you are confused if not sarcastic
Collapse was achieved by NATO and friends a long time ago. Ukraine is a shambolic mess, a zombie propped up by the sheer weight of extreme subsidization.
Do you think they'll "go back" to an independent functioning country when this "blows over". Man, you people are untethered from reality, completely and terminally.

NAFO PROLAPSE DAILY

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Ukrainian man not happy at picking berries

He went berry picking onto Finland to avoid living in Ukraine but he doesnt like it here

He is picking up strawberries on summer in a Finnish strawberry farm

https://yle.fi/a/74-20172942?origin=rss

Boryslava Whipmann ended up as berry picker. Farm owner is awful.

>Longer work days than what was initially agreed upon


>Housing resembles pig den more than a hotel


>2 weeks of work without a whole day resting (he would have liked to sleep over entire Sunday)


>He is getting paid 1 euro per a littre of picked up berry, HOWEVER a Finnish man on a marketplace 33 kilometers away from strawberry ranch, has to pay 10 liters for the same berries, strawberry farm lord gets 9 euros for himself!


>Strawberries are sold by the farm owner himself so he doesnt have to pay anyone for that part


>When Finnish YLE reporters appeared on the farm and demanded see the worklist of Ukrainians on the fields the owner, Finnish man named Pekka whose last name will not be revealed, would refuse to show the media the list


>"Everyone can leave here anytime they wish, simple as, but you probably can't return later if you do, and there are more people willing to pick berries if need be"

>>2408718
>Pekka
Got to fund his chosen lifestyle of doxxing “Vatniks” online somehow

>>2408718
kek what a moron
he should have fled to belarus instead
especially if he wanted to be a farm worker like bro wtf are you retarded Lukashenko will literally give you free housing if you join a collective farm smh

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>>2408821
uuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh……………. ᵇʳᵉʰˢ?

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so Dump is trying to attack india now. last week it was Brazil. the more he tightens his grip the more BRICS unity will increase.
Also he keeps trying to spin this "India will pay" shit. Americans who import Indian goods are the ones who pay it. Keeps trying to pretend like he's not raising taxes lol

>>2408970
>Americans who import Indian goods are the ones who pay it.
AmeriKKKan businesses you mean

Pretty good video on Azov. i didn't know how bad the biblioteka torture prison was. Hearing the testimonies was jarring.

>>2406937
Israel isn't imperialist just like Rhodesia wasn't
Its a shithole settler colony that doesn't have capability for sophisticated domination of foreign markets

>>2408652
>Praise to comrade al jolani for letting the pflp stay in damascus

😴😴😴
he took away their weapon. no Palestinian group can have weapons now. You don't care about Palestine, never did, you disgusting radlib.

Moreover, it has been reported that Palestinians who once held land in Syria thanks to the Assads, now their land is being stolen by HTS. Also HTS is imposing levies to Palestinian farmers in Idlib, arresting those who complained.

Again, put a sword in your rectum and commit seppuku. That's the only honorable way for you to die.

>>2408718
We really need strong protections for immigrants workers in the future world

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Remember when the azovites mocked the "pensioner army"? well, guess will join the AFU army, yes, bandera's living friends.

Russia just hit the west coast with its tsunami gun

>>2409539
damn three years ago when people were joking about "to the last holhol" they really weren't joking

>>2409666
>joking

>>2409666
You think anybody was saying that jokingly three years ago.

https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/112936/

>MOSCOW. July 29 (Interfax) - The next nationwide local elections in Ukraine set in line with election laws for the last Sunday in October 2025 will not be held, Ukrainian media reported with reference to the Central Election Commission (CEC).


>The Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada normally sets a date for nationwide local elections no later than 90 days prior to the voting day; however, due to martial law imposed in the country, no elections can be organized or held during this period, and therefore, the Rada has not called regular local elections this year, media said referring to a statement on the CEC's website.


>"No elections are organized and held while martial law is in effect, and therefore, members of the territorial elections commissions formed during the previous regular local elections on October 25, 2020 shall continue performing their duties until new compositions of relevant territorial elections commissions are formed," CEC member Sergei Postivy said.

Ukraine collapse status?

>>2408821
russians joke about femboys so much I'm convinced they're all gay and russian women are a psyop to fake hetero-normality


>>2410223
Based Ukrainian whores undermining morale.

>>2410229
I’m having a brainwave, what if what NATO seeks to imperialise in Ukraine is not raw materials, or wheat but the women? If the women are
>Trad culturally
>Beautiful
>Motivated romantically by money
>Selfish and devoid of civic mindedness
>Simp for the relatively more powerful
Then that’s the dream for every gooning rightoid man in the west, our demographic issues concerning birth rates could be solved overnight!

>>2410248
Ukraine is already huge in the surrogacy industry

>>2410250
Yes but I assume that’s for middle class liberals who don’t want to take time off work to birth a child. I mean if we imperialise the trad wives of Ukraine, birth rates would be up, school shootings would be down and the internet would get way more cringe since rightoids and their Ukrainian tradwives can hate communism together in their own homes rather than seeking approval for said hatred online

>>2410256
Way less cringe*

Liutyi drones under Russian electronic warfare.

>>2410139
Chasov Yar is now fully liberated. Pokrovsk is crumbling right now. The Collapse of Ukraine is in progress.

>>2410223
well, that's the prize you pay for liberalism. international debauchery, impulse to succumb to a better life instead of face the rough path ahead. who's to blame? Ukrainians chose the road of liberalism, ardently, even as of now. they are fighting for their right to be in the west, or send their daughters, girlfriends, wives, to the west, so they can get drunk, get drugs, and live a menial life and call it "realization".

>>2410347
What is the next stalling?

>>2410366
What are you talking about?

>>2410378
NAFO, on a chair, with a noose, stalling the kick

>>2410347
Source: Dude trust me last night I imagined a southfront.press article claiming this

>>2410380
I am talking that they, all in ukraine, are happily dying for that to happen. to them, it's a realization to not have a notion of nation and fatherland, very appropriate of liberalism. because they will leave to whatever place they feel it'll be a materialist realization to live a life like that. like having a room with knick-knacks, drug yourself, party non-stop, etc. instead of facing problems ahead, and come to terms that you won't exploit others, and for that you'll have less.
reddit poster feels bad for them, but you see no ukrainian easily surrendering in great numbers on the LOC.
I don't feel bad for them. I feel contempt, because they get what the deserve, whether they realized it was a consequence of their choices or it was an unintended consequence of their choices.

>>2410456
Ok. Keep feeling that contempt

>>2410380
liberalism claims to be about liberty but going back hundreds of years it's really about liberty for some at the expense of the oppressed. This is a contradiction that they repress, typically they offshore the visible element of this to colonies in the days of slavery or in more modern times the "3rd world" as maintained by neocolonial relations. Ukraine is essentially being led on that they can join the society of the "free" and be counted as elevated above the countries slated for domination, and are going on an express ticket to 3rd world status as a result.

is there any other general thread on leftypol that has seen as many whiplash moments? just a few months ago anons here were proclaiming Trump as some savior for Russia and the ultimate hohol-destroyer. like how do you guys find the strength and energy to go on when you're constantly getting bamboozled by every party in this war

>>2410533
Uh, proof?

>>2409539
Get those arthritic grandpas in there. Then throw the corpses into a literal meat grinder.
We use every part of the animal, we are environmentalists.

>its only ukrainians who are dying

>>2410533
>whiplash
We mostly get detractors ITT saying
>booooooooooooooring, when’s the attrition going to pay off with big arrows?

>>2410561
Oh hey, bothsider whataboutism concern trolling shill is here again!

>>2410561
What a nonsensical statement.
I have maybe sounded blasé about this in the past >>2410557 and probably will again.
The truth is it is truly fucked up.
If I got one of those pro-war ukrainians in a quiet moment, it's a crime that "Do you know where your gramps is rn?", is a legitimate question. Do you want to be evropean this much that having your grandpa grabbed off the street while he's trying to get his beets and onions is a price worth paying?
This thing started with a Volkssturm and it looks like it will end with one.
I have no idea about the funny arrows and I don't follow the day-to-day at all but this fact alone makes it clear how grim things are.

>>2410533
I swear I have never had hopes on trump. and whoever had any, deserves a laugh at (Them). be aware that could be nafo pretending to not be nafo. we seek truth, that's revolutionary, anything else is pure counter-revolutionary nonsense idealism.

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Found this gemmy.

>Zelensky restored anti-corruption organizations (NABU and SAPO).

>>2410533
>just a few months ago anons here were proclaiming Trump as some savior for Russia and the ultimate hohol-destroyer. l
These threads are archived so it shouldn't be hard for you to find proof. But we know you won't so just keep crying as your nazi puppet state CIA project spirals further down the drain.

>>2410812
>Latvia flag.
Either VPN, or a communist facehugger latched on papiez face and his corpse gave life to a serious Baltic awaken person.

>>2410347
>>2410453
I got it by AFP spanish
LOL not reported in english
>Russian army claims they took Chasiv Yar
In english there is just firefighters in Kiev

>>2410822
LMAO what a cuck

>>2410823
I wouldn't be surprised if "evidence" does exist but this is a thread where retards will just come in and say any stupid thing, if only to be contrarian or try and start trouble.

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>>2410533
Even splashed back as Russia will go broke fast will those low oil prices and India refusing to buy it from them cause of trump "deals". At least Russia captured a strategic village after 18 months of fighting so it will console them a little.

>>2410961
>At least Russia captured a strategic village after 18 months of fighting so it will console them a little.
Its funny because its true.

>>2410961
That’s also 18 months of Ukraine bussing reinforcements to said village

>>2410961
you can always ponder how ukraine will fare without western support, instead of pretending that it isn't happening.

>>2410533
>just a few months ago anons here were proclaiming Trump as some savior for Russia and the ultimate hohol-destroyer
Are those anons in the room right now

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someone asked some threads ago what happened to el creatura cambiasexos, here's trying to establish a whole new record of how dumb can a human be.

>>2411067
I heard that same shit at the beginning of the war. I was getting sent big brain twitter threads by libs about how Russians can't stand diversity and hate Ukrainians on a fundamental level for their love of freedom or some shit, so the war was a product of the Russian need to destroy the PROVD VKRAINSKA KVLTUR or some stupid shit.

>>2411067
>See? AI regurgitated mass media slop as expected for how the technology works, that means it’s all correct because it’s artificial INTELLIGENCE
Of all the joys the 2020s has brought us, this is my favourite.

>>2411003
To be fair, if you were reading the White House's actions as indicative of the developments within Ukraine you would be justified in the confusion or mistake of believing of a US withdrawal of support for the war.

Zelensky's saving grace is an adamantine and dictatorial clutch onto the conditions of his presidency.

>>2411155
It was pretty amazing how quickly
>Nazi salutes and tattoos
>Racially profiling Russians as stupid and mindlessly aggressive towards anything or anyone non-Russian
>Diplomacy is a non-starter, Russians just need to be eradicated at least from Europe if not Russia itself
All became a-okay ideas with internet libs overnight.

But then they do think supporting “diversity” is about tolerance, like it’s some saintly virtue to not vomit blood at the sight of someone with a different skin colour in your proximity. So when you’ve got this global division where some reject the virtuousness of the west for very valid reasons, nah that’s too much to tolerate, we must eviscerate them in self-defence!

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gg no re


>>2410456
Imagine how shitty Russia must be to prefer this

>>2411397
>implying they have objective reality of Russia in mind

>>2411408
But you do

>Imagine how shitty Russia must be to prefer this
the average shit town in Russia is much better than your average shit town to "respectable" town in ukraine, that's uncontested.

>>2411416
Moreso than average Ukrainian who really, really identifies as European, yes.


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