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Trump doesn't want to talk to Putin Edition

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-scotland-uk-starmer-eu-trade-deal/


Previous: >>2391679

Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine

https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323733
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323731
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323735
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323740

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ALWAYS APPROACH SOURCES CRITICALLY

Live maps and updates
DeepStateMap: https://deepstatemap.live
Events in Ukraine: https://eventsinukraine.substack.com/
SouthFront: https://southfront.press/category/all-articles/world/europe/ukraine/

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>Video Essays / Historical Background
📺 • Ukraine: The Avoidable War - Boy Boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL4eNy4FCs8

📺 • Ukraine's Nazi Problem - The Marxist Project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yZvWAwU5W4

📺 • America, Russia, and Ukraine's Far Right - Gravel Institute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0pyVJG7_6Q

📺 • The Nature of Putin's Russia and Its Causes (3-Part Series) - 1Dime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8d6Vzi7zYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zODWTfMwFGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zuygh9Mzuo

<Current Happenings

📺 • The Grayzone: https://www.youtube.com/@thegrayzone7996
📺 • DDGeopolitics: https://www.youtube.com/@DDGeopolitics
📺 • Defense Politics Asia: https://www.youtube.com/@DefensePoliticsAsia
📺 • The Duran: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdeMVChrumySxV9N1w0Au-w
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📺 • Military Summary: https://www.youtube.com/@militarysummary

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Is calling this conflict an interimperialist conflict a moralism? Also, what is the proper communist stance regarding this war?

So, which is it?

>>2406664
>what is the proper communist stance regarding this war?
not a communist per se but i think it's not accurate to call Russia imperialist, i would say at best you could make some argument towards sub-imperialist but do not think one can even be attempted to really call it imperialist.

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things are so grim for ukraine, that the orange derange is moving the 50 (now 40) days deadline to the next few days.

>>2406706
>The EU has fifty days to decide to buy a shitload of American energy before I start crashing this global economy
<Von Der Leyen cucks
>Okay now Russia has 10 or 12 days or whatever to surrender to Ukraine, I’m bored of this now, yawn
Feels a lot like when Trump was threatening to abandon the ungrateful Ukrainians who were the true agitators with their NATO membership nonsense, right up until they signed the particular deal he wanted.

>>2406664
I don't know, but I'd be uncomfortable with any framing that doesn't treat this conflict as a part of the Cold War and a result of US hegemony

>>2406724
I was also weighting in, pondering, whether the reduction of time was because of the EU bending down or what. the timing is very sus, but I am not sure exactly was what the US would do in both cases. trade imbalance? the US trade imbalance comes from China and other developing nations, where the US buys more knick-knacks for whatever reason and not of the overpriced products the EU sells to the US.
After all, the EU is incurring to trade imbalances, too, due to the financialization of the EU currency.

I guess it's just that he's angry that the EU was always vocally attacking trump, even keir starmer influencing the US elections against him, in a very UK collusion that would make the Russian collusion hoax to pale, so maybe it's just that: he wanted to humiliate the EU to finally keep the same thing biden was doing.

nothing changed, except the EU finally wagged their tail to trump.

here, for the record, we can see the nazi-slave owner pustula von der merde openly admitting to the question "What are the US concessions? What is the US giving up in the deal" that the US didn't give any concessions, didn't give up anything.

>>2406738 (me)
>>2406724
forgot the video of pustula von der merde addmitting that the can be very flexible negotiating with the US. bending-a-lot to the US, that is.

>The Kyiv Independent reports that Zelenskyy has imposed sanctions against Marjorie Taylor Greene, Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson, Elbridge Colby, Mike Lee, Mike Flynn and Don Trump Jr.
kek. I wonder

Which country is russia going to invade next?

>>2406763
Uranus, obviously.

>>2406763
Azerbaijan and Armenia at the same time.

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Interestingly, I managed to predict when Russia would launch an overarching offensive, way back in Dec 2024, for all the mistakes, I still did better than anyone here I believe. https://southfront.press/military-situation-in-ukraine-on-july-27-2025-maps-update/


>>2406738
>Trump announced on Sunday that the EU will also purchase $750 billion worth of US energy exports.
So iirc part of the punishment for Russia not surrendering in 50 days was slapping nations that “fund Russia’s war” with 100% tariffs was essentially targeted at nations that are selling Russian energy as an intermediary to EU nations, with the idea being those nations will balk and quit reselling Russian gas and oil entirely.

I think primarily Trump, with his America First bollocks, only cares about avoiding competition (especially when selling to its vassals) and Russia was undercutting the US even selling via an intermediary and a few EU states are very touchy about giving up Russian energy, so threatening to cut the EU entirely off from Russian energy results in a guaranteed purchase of nearly a trillion dollars worth of US energy by the EU, who will no doubt make the population foot the bill while allowing industry to purchase Russian energy as usual. If Trump in anyway rolls back his threats about targeting Russian energy intermediaries once this much shortened deadline passed, it will be because the US got to wet its beak in the European energy market and now no longer cares what the EU spends additionally on cheaper energy.

We also don’t know how much oil $750 billion actually buys in this deal, it could be a tablespoon, pleasant doing business with you, we don’t mind if you need to top yourself off with Russian oil if that’s not enough

>>2406778
Things are getting out of control in that region. Armenia wants to join NATO and Azerbaijan stabbed Russia in the back.

>>2406794
>with 100% tariffs was essentially targeted at nations that are selling Russian energy as an intermediary to EU nations, with the idea being those nations will balk and quit reselling Russian gas and oil entirely

the problem is, how can they prove that's Russian oil. Russia can buy through their partners around the world oil, mix it, and then resell it under shady operations, and make it untraceable. Also, the EU has large refineries specialized to process only Russian oil.
Worst case escenario, Russia processes those raw materials and re-sells the secondary raw materials as semi-processed goods, that then are parts of new hardware and components. Russia has that capability.
>If Trump in anyway rolls back his threats about targeting Russian energy intermediaries once this much shortened deadline passed, it will be because the US got to wet its beak in the European energy market and now no longer cares what the EU spends additionally on cheaper energy.
I don't think he will. He'll take the EU concession as a reason to further keeping the conflict, because all this reluctance was because the EU wasn't bending themselves too much.

>>2406805
now that DDR anon posted in the USAPOL, and he adamantly said that the EU isn't Germany, it's Kaja Kallas, the baltoids, and every other peripheral country directing the EU.
let remind that recently fridrich merz said that the EU diplomacy is directed, (against the EU constitutional andfoundational laws: by consensus and total unanimity), by who holds the power in it, saying that Germany will lead the EU diplomacy. that is, taking steps to further escalate the conflict against Russia.

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>>2406730
I'd be uncomfortable with any framing that doesn't treat WW1 as a part of the great power competition and a result of UK hegemony which means the German reich wasn't imperialist

>>2406773
>Russia launched an offensive
Nah you’re actually the most wrong propagating the cope that these movements are the result of additional concerted effort rather than just the start of Ukraine and NATO running out of men and material to expend in attritional warfare, thus their hitherto reluctance to retreat is becoming less of a choice made at their discretion.

>>2406853
>I'd be uncomfortable with any framing that doesn't treat WW1 as a part of the great power competition and a result of UK hegemony
true, except UK wasnt an hegemon like USA is today, they were simply the first among the imperialists.

>which means the German reich wasn't imperialist

shit, you guys still dont understand what is imperialism? how many times has it been explained in this thread?
just take a look at the economies of great powers in ww1 (or read lenin who did the work) and the relative size of their stock markets, and then compare it to today.

>>2406821
I think the EU is detached even from average Germans. Germany was after all hammered for dragging its feet after 2022, and shows a lot of disillusionment in polling with Ukraine.
The same detachment is seen with Israel
An international order is being held together increasingly despite the people under it, including those who benefited more than others, and yes it increasingly relies on utterly dependent vassal states and their historical victim mentality (stolen from europe and now wedded to it) for legitimacy.

>>2406853
WW1 was a direct consequence of the rise of imperialism by the 1870s and 1880s, and the present new cold war is indeed a resumption of the last. Russia and China are not imperialist, imperialist states remain united since the world wars.

>>2406867
>compare it to today.
Only the US is imperialist because they have more stock market, japan wasn't imperialist in WW2 because not enough stock market since imperialism is when stock market, also israel is not imperialist but putin agrees with me there

>>2406875
well, it is detached from average Germans, that doesn't mean the current vassal leader is very keen, eager in fact, in leading the German state to that point. And he was elected for that matter.

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>minus one UH-60 Black Hawk.

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Medvedev responding to Trump's threats.

>>2407020
He’s such a tart, everyone serious is lauding Russia’s extreme restraint while Dynamite Dima is talking like Putin nuked New Mexico as a warning shot at some point

>>2407105
good cop bad cop reoutine

>Trump doesn't want to talk to Putin Edition
notice how trump is step by step reverting to every Biden policy

>>2407107
Nah it’s the same pathology as cucktinposters, but whereas cucktinposters are like
>Just bomb a NATO base in Poland bro, tell them to put up or shut up
Medvedev talks as though that already happened at least once

>>2407109
Trump is turning out, unsurprisingly, to just be the plausible deniability wrt the US’s drastic turn towards tightening their grip on their vassals and their coffers.

Trump was the unlikely, larger than life, big personality, populist “accident” that so vulgarly flexed the US’s power over everyone, future US governments will surely apologise for this rather hostile anomaly in the “special relationship” with their vassals, for letting the dog through the net, but they will also regretfully concede that it’s already too late to reverse or compensate for, sowwy :3

>>2406796
speaking of which, now the EU says they aren't sure they can pay all that money to trump.
EU, such a jokistan. all bad unfunny theatrics.

>>2407161
seems like the eu sold themselves out to buy blump's loyalty to project ukraine and further escalation

>>2407020
Lol at medvecuck acting though on the internet but irl being the largest cuckold in the world second to Cucktin

>>2406763
All of them

>>2407396
Yea the cuck is the guy waging a war and winning lol


>>2407451
Just two more weeks lol

>>2406773
>Pokrovsk captured
Still hasn't happened lol

>>2407471
>If he doesn't win in two weeks he's not winning
You must struggle reading news headlines in the west. No wonder you're here coping

>>2407486
Maybe it will happen this decade and for this we celebrate.

>>2407545
This decade? You're an optimistic Zigger aren't you?

>Pokrovsk is stalling
We’re really back to this?

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Yeah let's talk about something else, like the relation both countries have with Palestine
>Putin condemned the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel that sparked the Gaza war and said Israel had a right to defend itself, but also criticized Israel's response and said Israel should not besiege the Gaza Strip in the way Nazi Germany besieged Leningrad. Putin suggested that Russia could be a mediator in the conflict.[36]
>In December 2023, Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Russia's goals of "demilitarization" and "denazification" in Ukraine were similar to Israel's stated goals of defeating Hamas and extremism in Gaza.[37][38]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine%E2%80%93Russia_relations

And Ukraine
<Israel did not vote for a UN resolution calling on Russia to pay reparations for invading Ukraine.[17]
<During the Gaza war, Ukraine's Foreign Ministry condemned attacks on Palestinian civilians in Gaza and supported a two-state solution to the conflict.[18] More than 300 Ukrainian scholars, activists and artists expressed solidarity with Palestinians in an open letter.[19] Most of the Ukrainian community in Gaza was forced to flee the country because of the war.[20]
<On 2 June 2024, Zelensky reiterated Ukraine's support for a two-state solution. He remarked that, while Ukraine has supported Israel's right for self-defence against Hamas during the attacks in October 2023, during the humanitarian crisis Ukraine said that it is ready to help Gaza humanitarianly and it "will do everything so that Israel stops and civilians do not suffer."[21]
<On 18 July 2024, Ukraine sent a gift of 1,000 tons of its wheat flour to the Palestinian territories. According to the foreign ministry, the package will be enough to support more than 100,000 Palestinian families for a month.[22][23]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine%E2%80%93Ukraine_relations

Thoughts zion gang?

>>2406773
how does one 'liberate' a sovereign, foreign country?

>>2407571
When it's government ceased to be a liberal democracy like the Euros or Russia due to a Washington backed Nazi led coup

>>2407563
One country blamed the crisis on the lack of a two state solution and linked it to endless US wars in the middle east while pursuing security ties to Iran. The other had its leader try to visit Israel immediately in order to bridge Western aid to both and claim Israel as a state ideal as a bulwark for Western civilization.
>>2407571
>how does one 'liberate' a sovereign, foreign country?
It's pretty easy when said country claims the land but not the people inhabiting it, then wants to use the former to divide the world as the state regresses.

>>2407563
hamas is not palestine
hamas was created by idf to propagate islamism and obstruct the secular government in western bank. i wouldn't even be surprised if the october war was inspired by netanyahu himself as a means of cannibalizing the far right parties he was forced to co-rule with.
it's no wonder both countries are very close to israel - eastern europe is brimming with jews: zelensky's a full jew, putin's half jew.
hell, russians and (modern) jews are descended from the same people - khazars.

Bahkmut is stalling.

>>2407563
>tired and lame attempt at both-sidism
Russia is allied with Israel's regional enemies. It defended Syria for years against a joint US-Israeli-Turkish-VariousArabCuck attack while Ukraine aided the attack. It arms and helps defend Iran against Israeli attacks, while Ukraine aids the attacks.
Ukraine and Israel are both imperial proxies of the US empire. They are the same thing and fight for the same thing. They attack the same things, and it's almost always allies of Russia.
Russia has tried to maintain normal relations with Israel, basically riding the fence, but that's as far as it goes, and we'll see how long that lasts. It's a facade everyone seems ok playing along with for now.
But fuck words and posturing. Words are for politics and appearances. If you want to know what's what, look at the actions. And the actions tell you everything you need to know.

The west is Israel
This does not belong here but if you were to manage to take off your retard westoid blinders, it does turn out to be simple, after all.

>>2407571
First, it's not sovereign. It is a wholly owned dependency of US-NATO. A slave state, essentially.
Second, it was not a unified country but a divided one. That is why there was a civil war, and a contact line, and negotiations between warring sides that ended with a peace treaty (which Ukraine violated and refused to follow, causing the current war).
Ukraine as a country was taken over illegally and unconstitutionally by a criminal faction that could not gain the absolute power they sought through the normal process. So they aligned with foreign powers to seize it by force, disenfranchising a majority of the people who voted for the deposed. Then the criminal faction banned all meaningful opposition to itself, and especially candidates and parties popular among the people of the deposed government, to ensure those people would have no franchise or any say in the direction of state.
2014 was a usurpation of national sovereignty, a denial of the basic rights of large parts of the country and the establishment of a factional dictatorship. Subsequent elections were just a mirage that could only elect one or another element of the maidan movement and would always wind up with NATO-dictated policy no matter who won (see Zelensky the "peace candidate").
The areas of Ukraine that had their votes and rights stolen by the "revolution" and had to endure what was/is essentially an apartheid regime directed against them, can be reasonably called liberated when Russia boots out the usurpers.

>>2407560
Bro Ziggers have taken pokrovsk like three times this year ..

Homes with gas status, Zisters?

>>2407631
>civil war
Define civil war

Would there be a total russian death on the east of ukraine if people didnt form militias there?

>>2407659
>chatbot response

What is the communist position regarding donetsk and lugansk people's republics? Was it a prolerarian movement in nature?

>>2407670
No, but a left wing bonapartist movement nonetheless

>>2407603
Israel manoeuvered so Russia could keep its foreign syrian bases, they are basically allies

>>2407675
Whats a bonapartist?

Why did ukraine had military garrisons on crimea and eastern ukraine?


>>2407678
you should try to be less braindead. Russia's bases in Syria don't matter much anymore. The damage is already done. Israel already won there (with Ukraine's help). The fact that Ukraine (and the EU) are butthurt that nobody else wanted to force Russia out of the bases is their problem. Ukraine should be happy enough that it helped its role model Israel destroy another regional adversary and move a step closer to Greater Israel.

>>2407706
>Ukraine wants to help Greater Israel
Are we still posting this Zigger cope? Clearly Cucktin himself doesn't think this is true given that he still invites Netanyahu for the annual Victory Parade. I know you FSB types are trying hard as hell to appeal to /pol/ by pretending that the struggle against Ukraine is somehow also a struggle against Israel but everyone knows Israel gives zero shits about this conflict.

Russian bases in syria are anti-imperialist bases

>>2407710
>tankanon
>says zigger
Arent you a zigger yourself?

>>2407706
Putin has been sanctionning Iran until 2020 so he helped Israel becoming hegemonic in the region

>>2407712
Takes one to know one.

>>2407714
You saying z word is like black people saying n-word?

>>2407713
How was russia sanctioning iran?

>>2407718
Security council

>>2407716
It is. And just like how black people reclaimed the slur only us ziggers can use it without being called racist.

Imagine being so butthurt about Russia you have to pretend it's part of a zionist conspiracy kek

What does russia gain by supporting israel?

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>>2407727
How is it a conspiracy, they do it in the open

>>2407733
Russia is the leader of the world anti-zionism movement kys

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>>2407735
You mean Ukraine

>>2407733
>Russian President Vladimir Putin ignored Prince Charles and Benjamin Netanyahu

>>2407743
He wasn't ignoring bro yesterday on the phone when they were discussing about how to deal with Iran

>>2407747
almost as nefarious as mao meeting kissinger in 1972

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>>2407710
>Hello fellow tankies
>Zigger
>Cucktin
>Ur FSB

What Israel gets from Russia:
A parade invite

What Israel gets from Ukraine:
mitliary and intelligence assistance in attacking it's regional enemies (who happen to usually be Russian allies).

Guess which one our false-flagging /uhg/ friend tries to pass of as significant.

The fact is Ukraine is objectively and materially helping the cause of Greater Israel. It helped Israel attack and overthrow Syria. And it's helping Israel attack Iran. And it will keep doing so at every turn in the future.

Meanwhile Russia will continue trying to help Israel/Ukraine's victims defend themselves from the attacks.


>>2406937
>japan wasn't imperialist in WW2 because not enough stock market
why even bother responding if its to show you complete ignorance you retarded dumbfuck, japan stock market was similar to that of france in 1930 and became even bigger than it afterward
just admit you're an idiot with no ability to root an analysis in either reality or theory because you dont bother with either, hence you're only an useless shitposter


>>2407761
>Ukrainians holding one meeting thanking Israel for BTFO Iran because iran supplies drones to Russia is "military and intelligence assistance".
Not sure if mentally retarded or just an ESL unable to read English articles.

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>>2407773
Russia is imperialistically between italy and germany

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>>2407835
try reading better or stop lying to whitewash Ukraine.
the meeting was to discuss how Israel and Ukraine could cooperate in Israel's next attacks on Iran. Ukraine thanking Israel for launching a war of aggression against a sovereign state was just a courtesy between allies and fellow ethno-nationalists, not the point of the meeting.
Ukraine already helped Israel topple Syria, They need to discuss how Ukraine could better help Israel's next rounds of aggression and imperial expansion.
Meanwhile Russia will be talking with Iran about how to sure up its defenses against Israel/Ukraine's attacks.

>>2407835
>Ukrainians holding one meeting thanking Israel for BTFO Iran because iran supplies drones to Russia is "military and intelligence assistance
Lol if only. Ukraine has an interest in Israel destabilizing Iran because Russia relies on it for Caucasus stability. Idiot

>>2406426
>how many shells do they produce yearly

That's a good question. If I had to guess, not very many at all. In finland's military wiki page it lists some of their military assets, and there really isn't very much at all. I doubt they're cranking out shells.

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>>2407729
>What does russia gain by supporting israel?
Russia has a bunch of Jewish billionaires who have dual Russian-Israel citizenship and own businesses and high-end property in both countries, and they also use Israeli citizenship to shield their assets from Western sanctions (also Cyprus). Just follow the money. I'm not trying to kick Jews here but it's really funny that antisemitic /pol/ types who support Russia via the West think that they're fighting da Joos while converting to Orthodox Christianity or whatever they do.

Leftists can debate whether the war is inter-imperialist or not, but the way I've been thinking about it, the bourgeoisie is a "band of warring brothers" as Marx put it. Putin's job (as a Bonapartist leader) is to protect their wealth from other predatory capitalists in the world but also ordinary Russians who have been getting robbed.

Israel served a similar function for the U.S. during the Cold War as other "captive nations" groups did. The U.S. understood that nation-states (or potential nation-states like Ukraine) and Latvia/Estonia/Lithuania could serve as disintegrating forces for the Soviet Union. Nation-states are also useful vehicles for capitalism, as capital needs states for protection and expansion, and as tools to print money and to help stabilize the inevitable crises that occur, and they also need national states and borders to mask class divisions, split up workers, and raise armies to fight their wars over labor, markets and resources (which creates inter-imperialist rivalries). But the ultimate victory for capital in the last century was that Russia itself also went down this path, which might partly explain the Russian government's fascination with encouraging nationalism in Western countries. There are glowies in Russia who are projecting their own experiences in the late 20th century onto the U.S. when they see a couple of rednecks barking about Texas seccessionism.

10 DAYS UNTIL NAMEK EXPLODES

>>2407861
>Assad fell because of 20 Ukrainian drone operators doing training in Syria to avoid getting instantly deleted on the front lines.
Not sure if Ukrainian Nationalist who delusionally believes 20 Ukrainian soldiers can topple a nation or Schizo who escaped from the psych ward.

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Guess who's coming back and has all the SWAG

Is Ziggers' body ready?

>>2407722
that's…. that's not how the n-word works.

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>>2407563
you know you are a moron, when you ignore the fact that Russia's help in Syria, if anything, served to help Palestine.
Do yourself a favor and stab your rectum with a sword, because that's the only honorable way for you to commit seppuku.

>>2407563
I don't care what Putin does, or thinks or what flavor of retard cope the Russian state huffs or expresses to the public.

In actual reality, the RF has found itself in opposition to NATO when it comes to the cold war and the perpetuation of US hegemony. And their role in that conflict would be progressive, even if, in fact they were doing all the things that the western propaganda says. It just has nothing to do with the idealism you spout.

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>>2408340
of fucking course it's vogue doing these…

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ratio'ed.

>>2408340
>>2408481
so i guess MI6 has selected the next leader of sovereign democratic ukraine

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>>2408503
vogue-nazi-lovers.

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>>2408350
>PFLP … had their headquarters in Damascus.
The PFLP-GC did but they were a splinter group run by Syrian glowies.

You know a lot of Palestinians are not into Russia or Assad like you are right

>>2408578
yeah, they are more probably into HTS now they don't have any rights on Syria, you little moron.

>t.
>Syrian glowies.
>hfw
fucking moron.
go fuck yourself, and ask al-ziolani to keep intact the same rights that Syria gave to Palestinians under the law No. 260 (of 1956), one of the most generous things no other fucking Arab country did for Palestinians, preserved by Assad, kept thanks to the assistance of Russia, and in which Palestinians KNOW very well, HTS doesn't work for them, and never will as vidrel, MADE IN PALESTINE shows.

>>2408529
>swastika pillow covers
>every square inch covered by marble and and gilded
>gold threaded couches
>silky canopies
Fascism was kitsch.

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>>2408481
welcome back, goering

>>2408607
I think it's rough for them when globalization breaks down in ways we rather than liberals and nationalists predict. It's basically the whole bourgeois international system versus individual non-Western developing nations and this validates the view neocolonialism is what divides the world. This view also supposes a crisis of imperialism causing conflict that also predicts failure. You can see the implications for post 2014 Ukraine despite it being the genesis and russiagate and militarization of the West.

You have to work overtime to falsify this and overwrite with other divisions, thus Russia as part of a zionist alliance against Islam or an American one against China.

>>2408607
Praise to comrade al jolani for letting the pflp stay in damascus, anyway is ruzion at kiev yet?

>>2408578
A lot of Palestinians are the kind of Sunni retards who would rather kill Shias than not be genocided

>>2408652
>anyway is ruzion at kiev yet?
Trust me, you’re far more mad asking that than anyone is hearing it

TOTAL COLLAPSE IMMINENT

>>2408707
I think you are confused if not sarcastic
Collapse was achieved by NATO and friends a long time ago. Ukraine is a shambolic mess, a zombie propped up by the sheer weight of extreme subsidization.
Do you think they'll "go back" to an independent functioning country when this "blows over". Man, you people are untethered from reality, completely and terminally.

NAFO PROLAPSE DAILY

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Ukrainian man not happy at picking berries

He went berry picking onto Finland to avoid living in Ukraine but he doesnt like it here

He is picking up strawberries on summer in a Finnish strawberry farm

https://yle.fi/a/74-20172942?origin=rss

Boryslava Whipmann ended up as berry picker. Farm owner is awful.

>Longer work days than what was initially agreed upon


>Housing resembles pig den more than a hotel


>2 weeks of work without a whole day resting (he would have liked to sleep over entire Sunday)


>He is getting paid 1 euro per a littre of picked up berry, HOWEVER a Finnish man on a marketplace 33 kilometers away from strawberry ranch, has to pay 10 liters for the same berries, strawberry farm lord gets 9 euros for himself!


>Strawberries are sold by the farm owner himself so he doesnt have to pay anyone for that part


>When Finnish YLE reporters appeared on the farm and demanded see the worklist of Ukrainians on the fields the owner, Finnish man named Pekka whose last name will not be revealed, would refuse to show the media the list


>"Everyone can leave here anytime they wish, simple as, but you probably can't return later if you do, and there are more people willing to pick berries if need be"

>>2408718
>Pekka
Got to fund his chosen lifestyle of doxxing “Vatniks” online somehow

>>2408718
kek what a moron
he should have fled to belarus instead
especially if he wanted to be a farm worker like bro wtf are you retarded Lukashenko will literally give you free housing if you join a collective farm smh

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>>2408821
uuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh……………. ᵇʳᵉʰˢ?

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so Dump is trying to attack india now. last week it was Brazil. the more he tightens his grip the more BRICS unity will increase.
Also he keeps trying to spin this "India will pay" shit. Americans who import Indian goods are the ones who pay it. Keeps trying to pretend like he's not raising taxes lol

>>2408970
>Americans who import Indian goods are the ones who pay it.
AmeriKKKan businesses you mean

Pretty good video on Azov. i didn't know how bad the biblioteka torture prison was. Hearing the testimonies was jarring.

>>2406937
Israel isn't imperialist just like Rhodesia wasn't
Its a shithole settler colony that doesn't have capability for sophisticated domination of foreign markets

>>2408652
>Praise to comrade al jolani for letting the pflp stay in damascus

😴😴😴
he took away their weapon. no Palestinian group can have weapons now. You don't care about Palestine, never did, you disgusting radlib.

Moreover, it has been reported that Palestinians who once held land in Syria thanks to the Assads, now their land is being stolen by HTS. Also HTS is imposing levies to Palestinian farmers in Idlib, arresting those who complained.

Again, put a sword in your rectum and commit seppuku. That's the only honorable way for you to die.

>>2408718
We really need strong protections for immigrants workers in the future world

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Remember when the azovites mocked the "pensioner army"? well, guess will join the AFU army, yes, bandera's living friends.

Russia just hit the west coast with its tsunami gun

>>2409539
damn three years ago when people were joking about "to the last holhol" they really weren't joking

>>2409666
>joking

>>2409666
You think anybody was saying that jokingly three years ago.

https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/112936/

>MOSCOW. July 29 (Interfax) - The next nationwide local elections in Ukraine set in line with election laws for the last Sunday in October 2025 will not be held, Ukrainian media reported with reference to the Central Election Commission (CEC).


>The Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada normally sets a date for nationwide local elections no later than 90 days prior to the voting day; however, due to martial law imposed in the country, no elections can be organized or held during this period, and therefore, the Rada has not called regular local elections this year, media said referring to a statement on the CEC's website.


>"No elections are organized and held while martial law is in effect, and therefore, members of the territorial elections commissions formed during the previous regular local elections on October 25, 2020 shall continue performing their duties until new compositions of relevant territorial elections commissions are formed," CEC member Sergei Postivy said.

Ukraine collapse status?

>>2408821
russians joke about femboys so much I'm convinced they're all gay and russian women are a psyop to fake hetero-normality


>>2410223
Based Ukrainian whores undermining morale.

>>2410229
I’m having a brainwave, what if what NATO seeks to imperialise in Ukraine is not raw materials, or wheat but the women? If the women are
>Trad culturally
>Beautiful
>Motivated romantically by money
>Selfish and devoid of civic mindedness
>Simp for the relatively more powerful
Then that’s the dream for every gooning rightoid man in the west, our demographic issues concerning birth rates could be solved overnight!

>>2410248
Ukraine is already huge in the surrogacy industry

>>2410250
Yes but I assume that’s for middle class liberals who don’t want to take time off work to birth a child. I mean if we imperialise the trad wives of Ukraine, birth rates would be up, school shootings would be down and the internet would get way more cringe since rightoids and their Ukrainian tradwives can hate communism together in their own homes rather than seeking approval for said hatred online

>>2410256
Way less cringe*

Liutyi drones under Russian electronic warfare.

>>2410139
Chasov Yar is now fully liberated. Pokrovsk is crumbling right now. The Collapse of Ukraine is in progress.

>>2410223
well, that's the prize you pay for liberalism. international debauchery, impulse to succumb to a better life instead of face the rough path ahead. who's to blame? Ukrainians chose the road of liberalism, ardently, even as of now. they are fighting for their right to be in the west, or send their daughters, girlfriends, wives, to the west, so they can get drunk, get drugs, and live a menial life and call it "realization".

>>2410347
What is the next stalling?

>>2410366
What are you talking about?

>>2410378
NAFO, on a chair, with a noose, stalling the kick

>>2410347
Source: Dude trust me last night I imagined a southfront.press article claiming this

>>2410380
I am talking that they, all in ukraine, are happily dying for that to happen. to them, it's a realization to not have a notion of nation and fatherland, very appropriate of liberalism. because they will leave to whatever place they feel it'll be a materialist realization to live a life like that. like having a room with knick-knacks, drug yourself, party non-stop, etc. instead of facing problems ahead, and come to terms that you won't exploit others, and for that you'll have less.
reddit poster feels bad for them, but you see no ukrainian easily surrendering in great numbers on the LOC.
I don't feel bad for them. I feel contempt, because they get what the deserve, whether they realized it was a consequence of their choices or it was an unintended consequence of their choices.

>>2410456
Ok. Keep feeling that contempt

>>2410380
liberalism claims to be about liberty but going back hundreds of years it's really about liberty for some at the expense of the oppressed. This is a contradiction that they repress, typically they offshore the visible element of this to colonies in the days of slavery or in more modern times the "3rd world" as maintained by neocolonial relations. Ukraine is essentially being led on that they can join the society of the "free" and be counted as elevated above the countries slated for domination, and are going on an express ticket to 3rd world status as a result.

is there any other general thread on leftypol that has seen as many whiplash moments? just a few months ago anons here were proclaiming Trump as some savior for Russia and the ultimate hohol-destroyer. like how do you guys find the strength and energy to go on when you're constantly getting bamboozled by every party in this war

>>2410533
Uh, proof?

>>2409539
Get those arthritic grandpas in there. Then throw the corpses into a literal meat grinder.
We use every part of the animal, we are environmentalists.

>its only ukrainians who are dying

>>2410533
>whiplash
We mostly get detractors ITT saying
>booooooooooooooring, when’s the attrition going to pay off with big arrows?

>>2410561
Oh hey, bothsider whataboutism concern trolling shill is here again!

>>2410561
What a nonsensical statement.
I have maybe sounded blasé about this in the past >>2410557 and probably will again.
The truth is it is truly fucked up.
If I got one of those pro-war ukrainians in a quiet moment, it's a crime that "Do you know where your gramps is rn?", is a legitimate question. Do you want to be evropean this much that having your grandpa grabbed off the street while he's trying to get his beets and onions is a price worth paying?
This thing started with a Volkssturm and it looks like it will end with one.
I have no idea about the funny arrows and I don't follow the day-to-day at all but this fact alone makes it clear how grim things are.

>>2410533
I swear I have never had hopes on trump. and whoever had any, deserves a laugh at (Them). be aware that could be nafo pretending to not be nafo. we seek truth, that's revolutionary, anything else is pure counter-revolutionary nonsense idealism.

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Found this gemmy.

>Zelensky restored anti-corruption organizations (NABU and SAPO).

>>2410533
>just a few months ago anons here were proclaiming Trump as some savior for Russia and the ultimate hohol-destroyer. l
These threads are archived so it shouldn't be hard for you to find proof. But we know you won't so just keep crying as your nazi puppet state CIA project spirals further down the drain.

>>2410812
>Latvia flag.
Either VPN, or a communist facehugger latched on papiez face and his corpse gave life to a serious Baltic awaken person.

>>2410347
>>2410453
I got it by AFP spanish
LOL not reported in english
>Russian army claims they took Chasiv Yar
In english there is just firefighters in Kiev

>>2410822
LMAO what a cuck

>>2410823
I wouldn't be surprised if "evidence" does exist but this is a thread where retards will just come in and say any stupid thing, if only to be contrarian or try and start trouble.

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>>2410533
Even splashed back as Russia will go broke fast will those low oil prices and India refusing to buy it from them cause of trump "deals". At least Russia captured a strategic village after 18 months of fighting so it will console them a little.

>>2410961
>At least Russia captured a strategic village after 18 months of fighting so it will console them a little.
Its funny because its true.

>>2410961
That’s also 18 months of Ukraine bussing reinforcements to said village

>>2410961
you can always ponder how ukraine will fare without western support, instead of pretending that it isn't happening.

>>2410533
>just a few months ago anons here were proclaiming Trump as some savior for Russia and the ultimate hohol-destroyer
Are those anons in the room right now

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someone asked some threads ago what happened to el creatura cambiasexos, here's trying to establish a whole new record of how dumb can a human be.

>>2411067
I heard that same shit at the beginning of the war. I was getting sent big brain twitter threads by libs about how Russians can't stand diversity and hate Ukrainians on a fundamental level for their love of freedom or some shit, so the war was a product of the Russian need to destroy the PROVD VKRAINSKA KVLTUR or some stupid shit.

>>2411067
>See? AI regurgitated mass media slop as expected for how the technology works, that means it’s all correct because it’s artificial INTELLIGENCE
Of all the joys the 2020s has brought us, this is my favourite.

>>2411003
To be fair, if you were reading the White House's actions as indicative of the developments within Ukraine you would be justified in the confusion or mistake of believing of a US withdrawal of support for the war.

Zelensky's saving grace is an adamantine and dictatorial clutch onto the conditions of his presidency.

>>2411155
It was pretty amazing how quickly
>Nazi salutes and tattoos
>Racially profiling Russians as stupid and mindlessly aggressive towards anything or anyone non-Russian
>Diplomacy is a non-starter, Russians just need to be eradicated at least from Europe if not Russia itself
All became a-okay ideas with internet libs overnight.

But then they do think supporting “diversity” is about tolerance, like it’s some saintly virtue to not vomit blood at the sight of someone with a different skin colour in your proximity. So when you’ve got this global division where some reject the virtuousness of the west for very valid reasons, nah that’s too much to tolerate, we must eviscerate them in self-defence!

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gg no re


>>2410456
Imagine how shitty Russia must be to prefer this

>>2411397
>implying they have objective reality of Russia in mind

>>2411408
But you do

>Imagine how shitty Russia must be to prefer this
the average shit town in Russia is much better than your average shit town to "respectable" town in ukraine, that's uncontested.

>>2411416
Moreso than average Ukrainian who really, really identifies as European, yes.

>>2408970
>ALL THINGS NOT GOOD
literal child

>>2409539
CHAAARGE!

>>2410812
This shit is so tiresome. "All allies have betrated you!" over and over, over and over

>>2409539
Im just happy they dont let 18-year-olds in this war. Too young to see that shit.

>>2410859
Latvia is full of russians.

>>2410859
Austrian I believe. Latvia is a slightly darker shade of red.

^
You do know the ratio in Palestine is 50/50 (50% kids, which is about the ratio in the general populace of Gaza, so it's not like they are "deliberately targeting" kids, most moral army eh)?
So I wonder why the mention of the little Satan? Are you so utterly deluded? Or just really desperate for any attention?
The world may never know.

>>2411869
They're coping because the Ukraine genocide narrative fell apart when we got a look at an actual genocide

It's very difficult to be an apologist for liberal capitalism these days

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>>2411929
They have the same line as Netanyahu and his fellow genocidaires. If you bother to look at it critically you can easily see the projection going on here as quite transparent.

>>2411932
If your defense of liberal democracy consists of ethnic supremacy on its frontiers as proven by Ukraine and Israel, it validates Marxist views about the democracy of oppressor nations and thus how it supposes Russian and Arab nationalism. It means Western crisis and regression causes its own problems and enemies. The way anti-imperialists can celebrate this self destruction just drives some up a wall.
The only response is arguing the enemies the West supposes are the same as the West. This is a tacit admission Western rule is indefensible

>>2411975
Medvedev is a Chihuahua as evidenced by him allowing NATO to destroy Libya. Lots of barking but very little bite and even when he does bite it doesn't hurt.

>>2411929
>It's very difficult to be an apologist for liberal capitalism these days
I'm sorry it's so hard to defend Russia on the internet

>>2410993
Putin's least loyal keyboard warrior

>>2411980
Make an ad and send it to Ukraine
"do you know where your grandfather is currently"?
What better praxis

>>2411221
>500 km/h
That's like
not even that fast. That's double a relatively fast train

Or to simplify (/2) a bit faster than the fastest train (Shanghai Maglev).

>>2411983
It's about the speed of WW2 fighter planes, but if that's combined with it being relatively small and attacking from high altitudes I can see why it would present a serious problem.

>>2411987

Or half the speed of hyperloop

>>2411990
Maglev exists however (it's two stations, basically a tube, they'll get to making it viable eventually).

>>2411977
I find it pretty easy after the last 30 years.

Kramatorsk is next
Slovyansk is the final stall

>>2410533
Its been exactly the same every day since before Mariupol

>>2412014
>The distance between Sloviansk and Kyiv is approximately 626 kilometers
that's a lot of stalling though

>>2411067
>30+ million Ukrainians in Russia
Wtf is Diana smoking. You guys at the FSB should get her off the crack pipe.

>>2410139
Two more centuries

>>2411989
So the tweet mentions it manoeuvres and looks like a cruise missile on radars, my uneducated guess is that the difference between a drone and a cruise missile is that a drone has a lot more wing area and thus lift to make more aggressive manoeuvres than a cruise missile can with essentially no wings. So I dunno, perhaps it can defeat the “program” AA missiles have for targeting cruise missiles that expects it can’t manoeuvre.

>>2411976
tbf that was because he is incompetent. He got completely outmaneuvered

>>2412068
they were still naive then about possibility of rapproachment with the west

>>2411976
During his reign I thought he was a neoliberal who wanted to cozy up with the west more than Putin, however in 2008 his SMO ended NATO's military operations in the Caucasus/South Ossetia swiftly. He took Tiflis literally within 2 weeks.

>>2410961
This guys insistence that Trump is a genius who will get everything he wants in trade talks despite that never happening ever is very bizarre. It’s like he’s been so mind broken by this thread that he became a MAGAtard

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>>2412093
Trump is like Putin, a neoliberal chauvinist moron with too much leverage somehow impacting geopolitics by stumbling around

>>2412102
You are still buying into this cope three years later? And you reply to my post literally immediately? Hang up the skates, you are buck broken 😭

>>2412102
>Trump is like Putin

>>2412102
It’s so funny how you just use words because you read socialists use them, when you have no idea what they mean. You’re like a child putting on his father’s clothes

>>2412102
Is it over for z tards?

>>2412102
>putin is neoliberal
a neoliberal disconnected from all multilateral systems
>chauvinist
embraces multiculturalism, sees russia as a multinational state, believes the world needs to be more pluralistic towards non-western civilizations and cultures

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If roads are already cut, why does it matter?

>Nicaragua's government signaled its readiness to recognize Russia's claim over four Ukrainian oblasts currently under partial occupation, according to a letter Nicaragua's President Daniel Ortega sent to Russian President Vladimir Putin on July 30, local outlet El 19 Digital reported.

>In the letter, Ortega expressed support for what he called Russia's "heroic battle against Ukrainian neo-Nazism, supported by NATO." If formalized, Nicaragua could become the first country to officially recognize Russia's annexation of Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson oblasts — territories Moscow declared part of Russia in 2022.

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>Lukashenko: "The statements of our common friend, Donald Trump, for whom we were so worried. I remember our concern for him to win. 50, 60, 10 days. This isn't how politics is done. If he wants peace, he should join [the process] carefully, thoroughly. This is a military confrontation. And to force someone, it won't succeed, especially a nuclear power. That only makes one laugh."
https://xcancel.com/Archer83Able/status/1951254333275738401

>>2412126
Ortega continues to be based

>>2412070
how many more times must Cucktin get betrayed in order to stop trusting Europe and the West?

>>2411983
I believe the problem is this excludes being hit by everything but IRIS/patriots, and with these two, there are problems with production (not enough and not even close to be enough) and price (100x more expensive than a geranium)

>>2411992
Japan is planning to build 600km/h maglev lines. Safer and more comfortable than using airplanes.

>>2412131
Medvedev was also Putin's puppet during his presidency cause Vladolf here couldn't get around the term limit at the time. All of this to say that Russia being a trusting puppy during this period is on Cucktin again. Bet he'll fall for it again during the next peace promises.

>>2412131
he has to pander to the majority of Russians who see themselves as based whites and feel secretly ashamed when they have to pivot instead to the east even though that's where the future of Eurasia lies. deep down the average Russian drunkard knows this and they pine for the glory days of participating in European wars against Napoleon or the Kaiser or Hitler, so dying in Ukraine is a decent alternative compared to not dying in any war at all. even though the combat is far fiercer in Donbass it's considered an upgrade from dying in Chechnya.

War le bad. This is le interimperialist conflict.

>>2412162
>Asia hating whites
Someone is sad a European country disowned Europe and the golden billion

>>2412181
we'll see how long that lasts, if Europe sees a resurgence of Christian nationalism it will only take less than a decade for a post-Putin Russia to realign itself with the EU. there are already plenty of Russian nationalists who thought they would be able to do a Sino-Soviet split and align with MAGA US due to """shared""" cultural Christian values

>>2412186
>Christian nationalists will fix the EU and make Russia want to be European again
I think Russia likes being an independent power and Europe is too dependent on transatlantic ties for global relevance
After Russians lost faith in the golden promises that ended the cold war then charted their own course they're not going to take a grossly inferior bargain with a declining Europe
Russia is not Ukraine. It's not going to eat shit just to be European lol
>there are already plenty of Russian nationalists who thought they would be able to do a Sino-Soviet split and align with MAGA US due to """shared""" cultural Christian values
There is zero evidence Christian religion defines strategic alignments under globalization and can overcome the east-west divide (that Christianity originally reflects). It's all the political economy of global capitalism and the historic foundations it's based on. History arrived at West vs the rest and no Christian lip service of one president undone by the next overwrite US or Russian interests in this epoch
There is a consensus in Russian leaders it doesn't matter which party leads the US. This has been cemented with plummeting G7 approval of Russia and China. Even in the most fantastic Christian nationalist wave in the West envisioned by CNN or whatever would just mean it going after Russian allies while being unable to solve fundamental post cold war security issues in the east. This is because religion doesn't paper over how decommunization divided the former USSR
To be honest I have no idea why you still hold onto these hopes lol.

>>2411929
They are reminded everyday of the hypocrisy and yet they continue. it's not like their whole personality is carefully vetted, groomed, and scripted.
>>2411866
ah, that makes more sense, yes, it's not Latvian.
>>2411977
hard? pf. easiest hobby on earth. the only difficult thing is to get people to read.

>>2412191
Life isnt black ops 6 but you getting PTSD even from the light stuff.

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>>2411980
you can always be a good bandera boy.

An absolute failure of ukrainian communists

>>2412024
she's probably referring on the 4 incorporated oblasts. with the latest censuses, from Ukraine in 2001 (yes, that old), and Russia 2021, it would amount 8 million. But probably is much more, since many Ukrainians identify as Russian, and could've just said "I am Russian".

>>2412199
>To be honest I have no idea why you still hold onto these hopes lol.
its my own personal hopes you fucking idiot, i'm just saying the likely trajectory for a post-Putin Russia where the nationalists will be a big part of the power struggle and they DO NOT like having to be a potential junior partner to the PRC. FYI i am a much bigger supporter of China than Russia so it's not like i want Russia to pivot away from China again

>>2412232
Why do russians hate being junior partner to china?

>>2412237
Because according to anon, ideology drives history, not material reality

>>2412237
They used be top dog in this relationship. Now China is surpassing USA.

>>2412232 (me)
oops I mean its NOT my personal hopes, like i don't want another Sino-Soviet split. admittedly the first time was due to Mao's autism but this time will be primarily due to Russian nationalist delusions
>>2412237
a lot of Russians are "okay" with it but the nationalists definitely are not. >>2412239 thinks they're making a point but we are talking about nationalists for whom material reality has no bearing and muh Orthodox Christian values take precedence. if push came to shove then Russian nationalists would choose to align with MAGA America over China 9 times out of 10

>>2412079
This. But I dislike his phase of "pwease, west".

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>>2412221
and this is a liberal failure.

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>>2412102
One upvoot.

>>2412232
I hope Lukashenko has used all his trips to Russia to secretly arm communist guerillas in the event that Russian nationalists try to seize power. Belarus is the only hope for Russia staying sane. Cucktin is scapegoating migrants to distract attention away from his failings. Russia is rapidly deg.enerating.

>>2412243
Yea they're going to take a subordinate role to America because christianity over being a leader in a multipolar world
Just like they did when America was run by WASPs and Russia was run by the church and tsar
Maybe stop being media brained and thinking cultural idealism defines the world

Are there any lessons for communists to learn from this conflict?

>>2412126
Based Daniel.

>>2412256
Aiding worshipers of Stepan Bandera in toppling a nominally "pro Russian" government is probably not a good idea. (Communist Party of Ukraine was stupid enough to support Euromaidan lol)

>>2412260
I guess those "communists" were nationalist

>>2412252
disclaimer: i am NOT advocating for the Russian nationalist position so i'm not sure why you keep implying i believe their delusions wholeheartedly. from their perspective it wouldn't be a junior position vis a vis America because each nation would recognize each others sphere of influence whereas Russia literally shares a long and contiguous land border with China. they would have much more leverage over the US than they do with China and the supposed Christian values of both potential regimes would be a boon for both.

like this is literally what they believe and you're over here telling me shit i already know, like duh cultural idealism doesn't define geopolitics. but i have no idea why you assume that right-wing clash-of-civilizations nationalism doesn't think so. the fact is that the nationalists will be a big player in the domestic struggle in Russia to come, and the communists are not ready for it at all. and jokers like you will be stuck defending the nationalists by proxy because you don't think they exist or are inconvenient for your position.

>>2412263
No they had a standard ML line but the problem is they saw all the crowds and protests and thought they had to join in because lots of people were participating. Sad! Many such cases.

Do you guys think this war was inevitable?

>>2412267
There's no evidence the Russian state behaves or will behave the way you describe. You fell for Democrat propaganda meant solely for US election purposes, not making sense of the world. I'm not sure why after 2022 you even bother believing it. Trump 1.0 and 2.0 clashed with Putin, who in turn has secured Russia's post Soviet transition in the world as fundamentally at odds with the West whether liberal or conservative. The world isn't divided by ideals. Successors to both Trump and Putin are positioned to continue the clash.

Also even in the fantasy scenario, it does not secure a Russian position in Europe. It doesn't do anything except achieve some reverse Kissinger completely divorced from that issue plus the middle east and its intersection with the Caucasus. Instead there's just some assumption of a Russian antagonism with China prophesied since the 90s, with the opposite consistently being the trend since.
Again I have no idea why bother dismissing the 30 year picture for a media narrative tied to a burger culture war and never meant to scale outside of it

Even if majority of russians are nationalists it doesnt mean they are against an alliance and partnership with china

>>2412260
>Communist Party of Ukraine was stupid enough to support Euromaidan lol
That's not really true. They dismissed it as an inter oligarch feud until the Lenin statue was torn down. As things escalated they came to support the January 2014 laws

>>2412256
oof what's not to learn.
ex-communists in Ukraine literally talking like nazis, treasonous and treacherous people on your communist party. Rethought of Lenin's imperialism, using a small fraction Kautsky thought: superimperialism or "ultra-imperialism" as a contrast, in which nation-cartels form an alliance club (NATO) to avoid wars and conflict, erasing national conflicts between capitalist states, through the monopolies, but leaving aside all the atheorethical parts and reformism that Kautsky used.

>>2412260
oh, no, no. The Euromaidan was never supported by the Communist Party of Ukraine. In fact, once Yanukovich was overthrown, they were the first to call to protest, and their calls were heard and followed by almost all east Ukraine.

>>2412297
Yeah a bunch of CPU members were murdered on May 2, 2014 in Odessa

>>2412292
this screed would only make sense if you can name the successor to Putin which is as difficult as defining Israel's national borders, otherwise you're falling into the same mistake you think you are describing of lazily relying on a myopic view gleaned from the initial post-Soviet decades

>>2412303
In fact, in April 8, 2014, communists in Ukraine already knew what was brewing with the nationalists. how the state failed to to bring peace.
until this day, all the assets of the Communist Party of Ukraine has been seized by zelya's goons.

>>2412330
>we are following not american but russian policy now
What is he talking about?

>>2412338
I think he meant the oligarchs like Poroshenko got their own paramilitaries running around so it's just like Russia now.

>>2412293
The russian nationalists can barely contain their bloodthirst against migrants which their own government invited in to fix a labor shortage and you think they won't sell out to the West instantly once they take power as long as the West lets them do an ethnic cleansing or six? Navalny was a russian nationalist too.

>>2412346
Why would they need west's permission? And how does being a nationalist prevents them from being partners with china?

>>2412338
>>2412342
which is the total evidence that anyone should need to see that the Communist Party of Ukraine wanted to be more independent of Russia, despite all the ukrainian nazis and liberal claims that they were a Russian co-opted party.

But honestly, it was stupid. Lukashenko understood this, fought with claws and teeth the obvious attempts of the west to overthrow him and decided to embrace Russia. Minus point to the Communist Party of Ukraine.

>>2412350
because Russian nationalism is a specific thing and contains monarchist and Orthdox brainrot around how Russia is the Third Rome and TRVE INHERITOR of Byzantium as a bulwark against the east

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Those three were speaking in Vietcong in communist Russia!

>>2412312
>If you can't name putins successor we should assume a radical reverse in Russian foreign policy that contradicts what it's built for years

>>2412338
The nationalists did everything they accused Russia of, and in fact started it. They divided Ukraine, seized buildings, etc.

>>2412423
In every Russian there is an EUnian screaming to get out

>>2412425
Which btw is true, Lviv declared independence during Euromaidan before Crimea and donbass
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/02/21/world/politics-diplomacy-world/western-city-of-lviv-declares-independence/

>>2412423
look if your entire position revolves around the assumption of a totally eventless and boring transition of power from Putin to whatever is next then you have Zionist brain and can't conceive that the past few years have done some serious damage to the institutional coherence of your beloved state. your only out is to keep the forever war going while finding as many Putin body doubles as you can

>>2412435
>ook if your entire position revolves around the assumption of a totally eventless and boring transition of power from Putin
I assume most likely Putin's successor is not going to wildly contradict Russian strategic interests, especially thanks to this war revealing global divisions and rapid change, then pursue a Russia-MAGA crusade against China.


>>2412428
bookmarked.

>>2412437
there are no permanent strategic interests. all the effort spent to maintain the Syrian state and a warm water port was thrown away because Donbass took far more precedence. if the US or EU-skeptic Germany or France can provide concessions then the strategic considerations would shift again. Russia still isn't configured to be the gas field for China and India, and much of its infrastructure was built on the premise of primarily supplying Europe with energy. if the West can get Russia to pivot itself against China in exchange for gibs why wouldn't they take that? because of muh strategic partnerships? what did Russia do to help Iran this past year? isn't Iran going to China now for fighter jets and AA systems?

out of all the BRICS countries the Russian state is by far the most strategically contingent, even moreso than India. people like to rag on China for being self-centered but there is no concept of a Zhongguo Shijie when there is the Russkiy Mir.

>>2412447
t.

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>>2412490
>my 16 inch bbc dildo
sir, it's called a nubriton.

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>>2412490
projection much?

>>2412488
glad you admit you are /pol/ now go secretly masturbate to bbc porn, to then post a 1200 words long post in /pol/ on why you hate black males.

Any new gains?

>>2410145
That's how it should be

>>2412018
what does kyyiv have to do with anything

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>>2412018
>>2412568
>Kyiv
Hello Langley, its Kiev <<КИЕВ>>.

>>2412572
kyyyvy

>>2412515
the fact that you though this shit was so good you put a watermark on it
utterly embarrassing lol

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>>2412576
funfact, that telegram channel is a full nazi bandera channel that even mocks Ukrainians that could show even a small amount of Russian culture.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/07/ukraine-anti-corruption-independence-restored-zelenski-weakened-army-in-trouble.html

Ukraine - Anti-Corruption Independence Restored, Zelenski Weakened, Four Cities Are Falling

>On Monday the 21st of July the Ukrainian Secret Service (SBU) searched offices of the independent anti-corruption police (NABU) and anti-corruption prosecutor office (SAPO) and detained several of its investigators. A day later the Zelenski regime pushed a law through parliament which ended the independence of both entities by putting them under control of the prosecutor general.


>The move had been planned for months (in Russian) but was executed in haste after NABU and SAPO had served a notices-of-investigation to people near to the president.


>But Zelenski had miscalculated the step. There were highly visible local protests and the EU stepped in by threatening to withhold subsidies on which the Ukrainian state depends.


>Two days after his strike against the independent anti-corruption entities Zelenski had to pull back. Today the parliament reestablished the independence of NABU and SAPO.


<The Verkhovna Rada (Ukrainian parliament) has passed a law restoring powers to Ukraine’s key anti-corruption agencies – the National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) and the Specialised Anti-Corruption Prosecutor’s Office (SAPO).


<A total of 331 MPs voted in favour of the presidential bill [..]. No MPs voted against the bill, and no one abstained. Nine MPs did not vote.


<Under the new law, SAPO will now independently oversee the procedural supervision of NABU investigations – and is no longer under the control of the Prosecutor General.


>The new law was signed by the president and is now in force.


>By his misstep and its retraction from it Zelenski demonstrated a fatal weakness which his political enemies will soon use to end his control of the country.


>Several additional corruption investigations against Zelenski's entourage are pending. The most severe one is against Timur Mindich, a longtime business partner of the president nicknamed "Zelenski's wallet". NABU had wiretapped Mindich's apartment which was used by Zelenski and others to discuss 'businesses'. (Mindich's bugged luxury apartment in Kiev is said to include a room with a golden toilet.)


>With the independence of NABU and SAPO restored, new investigations against Mindich and other people near to Zelenski, and potentially against himself,  are likely to soon be published.


>They will demonstrate that the president has lost the ability to protect those who work with him.


>In consequence the majority of his party in parliament is shrinking (machine translation):


<People's Deputy Dmytro Kostyuk announced from the rostrum of the Verkhovna Rada that he was leaving the Servants of the People faction due to the situation with the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine.


<According to him, deputies were forced to vote for the draft law on depriving the NABU and SAPO of their powers, threatening them with criminal cases. He himself also supported this bill a week ago.


<Now the faction formally consists of 231 deputies, which gives "Servant of the People" the rights of a mono-majority coalition. [..] However, if six people leave the faction, its number will be reduced, it will be less than the required 226 votes, and thus the ruling mono-majority will disappear.

>The opposition, with former president Petro Poroshenko in the lead, will soon be able to clip the president's wings.


>The political chaos in Kiev is reinforced by the catastrophic situation on the battle field. There are four significant population centers which are likely to fall under Russian control within the next month.


1. Kupiansk (pre-war population 26,000) - The Russian forces are pressing from the north towards the west of the city to cut its main supply line.

2. Siversk (pre-war population 10,000) - Russian forces have captured large parts of the woods north of Siversk and are now moving in from all sides.

3. Konstantinivka (pre-war population 8,500) - Russian forces are pushing west from the finally taken Chasiv-Yar agglomeration to cut the northern supply line to Konstantinivka. Russian forces southwest of the city are moving northward for the same purpose.

4. Prokovsk (pre-war population 85,000) - Ukrainian defense lines around and within the city have broken down. Russian forces are already in the city. Supply and exit routes to the north and west are barely passable.

>The Ukrainian forces lack infantry. Some Ukrainian brigades have less than 100 people to man several miles long defense lines. There is a severe lack of mortar and artillery ammunition. The Russian side has more and better drones available in higher numbers. The recent re-organization of the Ukrainian army into corps sized structures has only increase the organizational chaos.


>The Ukrainian army, like the Ukrainian state, is in the process of falling apart.


>>2412243
it was russian chauvinism last time too

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imagine being this divorced from reality

>Hundreds of people try to release some 100 men who were snatched & locked by press gangs in stadium in Vinnytsia. Police tries to detain & disperse them

>>2412692
>Trump being informed about Russian losses

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What are you gonna do now zigger boys? Sink some of your nuclear submarines somewhere in the Atlantic?

>>2407109
>notice how trump is step by step reverting to every Biden policy
>>2410533
>is there any other general thread on leftypol that has seen as many whiplash moments? just a few months ago anons here were proclaiming Trump as some savior for Russia and the ultimate hohol-destroyer.
I'll accept that anons on leftypol like to troll. But people elsewhere online who took that seriously when a couple months later Trump is going mechabrandon are dupes fr

Who comes after Trump? Will he save Russia? It's time we get to the difficult questions.

>>2412894
It's extremely unlikely that Blumpf gives any credence to Medvedev's usual blowhard comments, so if he's really repositioning nuclear subs, I'd bet on either
1. he's rolling out his madman scheme again to try getting his way in the negotiations.
2. the subs are being repositioned for some major offensive operation against Russia, and Blumpf thinks he's cleverly concealing this by framing it as a defensive maneuver 'cuz Medvedev'.

>>2413120
>major offensive operation against Russia
Holy based retard?

>>2412441
>if the US or EU-skeptic Germany or France can provide concessions then the strategic considerations would shift again.
You mean the same two countries that are even more aggressive against Russia than the US itself?
>Russia still isn't configured to be the gas field for China and India, and much of its infrastructure was built on the premise of primarily supplying Europe with energy
Which has been changing. The Russian government is investing heavily in creating infrastructure towards China and building up river infrastructure to bypass Europe. Putin and his successors are doing a greater shift not seen since Peter the Great
>if the West can get Russia to pivot itself against China in exchange for gibs why wouldn't they take that? because of muh strategic partnerships?
Like the gibs that Trump offered? What gibs can be exchanged that they haven't offered already? They have been saying this for the past three years that the gas station Russians will bend the knee to gibs and the war will be over.The West strategic interests do not align with Russia and its clear through these talks that it cannot be compromised. Gibs are not going to work unless NATO surrenders its position in Ukraine and eventually Eastern Europe which they will refuse to do even if they have to take down the veil of democracy like in Romania
>what did Russia do to help Iran this past year? isn't Iran going to China now for fighter jets and AA systems?
Iran literally refused some fighter jets from Russia. Iran asked for the help that they wanted and Russia was not going to stomp on their sovereignty.
>out of all the BRICS countries the Russian state is by far the most strategically contingent, even moreso than India
India and Brazil have more issues with BRICS at the moment than Russia and China. It is hard pressed to find a scenario where Russia will do a 360 to take down China with the US and western allies. Just think of how ridiculous that would be when the Russian government already written 10 year plans towards investing Eastward and getting closer with the DPRK when they wanted to be more distant when they wanted to reconcile with the West.

>>2412975
After Cheeto Benito, us

>>2412441
>zhongguo shijie
Whats that?

>>2412975
>>2413244
Is this the burger thread? It's way to early to call, but what does it matter? I knew before he got in he would cave to the permanent/deep state on all foreign policy because he doesn't have the cajones to fight them. There is nothing really to talk about in regards to presidents in this regard. The state controls this no matter who is the figurehead.

>>2413250
Siri, play that clip about Putin and the men in the blue suits or whatever since I'm in the Zigga thread.

>>2413251
https://www.quora.com/What-did-Putin-mean-by-Men-in-dark-suits-rule-the-USA-in-a-recent-interview
>I have already talked with one US President, and with another, and with the third - Presidents come and go, but the policy does not change. Do you know why? Because the power of the bureaucracy is very strong. The person gets elected, he comes with some ideas, and then people come to him with briefcases, well dressed and in dark suits, like mine, but not with a red tie, but with black or dark blue, and they begin to explain what he should do - and everything changes at once. This happens from one administration to the next.

>>2413120
it's the first. he's a blowhard

>>2413251
It's "computer, play…", like in Star Trek
unless you want to broadcast to the world you are an Apple consumer
Also yes, this is zigga territory and don't you forget it
Ceterum censeo Putin is (or was) more optimistic than I about european independence

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>>2413267
>unless you want to broadcast to the world you are an Apple consumer
I don't use Apple shits because I just use windows so I only use android. I hate Apple. I had to use those stupid ass computers in the computer lab with the 1 button mouses. Apple shit is beyond retarded.
>Ceterum censeo Putin is (or was) more optimistic than I about european independence
Yeah I know about most of his opining about this.

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>>2413269
Lol, my bad, I don't even know why would I save that clip without English subtitles. I assumed it would be the subtitled version.

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So what's been up with the GAS is this the winter that will do them in?

>>2413275
The EU, in an act of abject humiliation, promised the US they'd buy billion, gazillions dollars worth of gas from the US.

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>>2413120
>1. he's rolling out his madman scheme again to try getting his way in the negotiations.
Madman theory was a Nixon thing and yeah.

>>2413279
https://chatgpt.com/share/688db29c-48cc-8005-b0a3-54e8b10a39b2
<how much oil has the EU agreed to purchase from the USA in the latest trade agreement?
>The latest EU–U.S. trade agreement, announced on July 27, 2025, includes a key commitment by the European Union to purchase approximately  $750 billion worth of American energy over the next three years. That breaks down to about $250 billion per year in U.S. oil, liquefied natural gas (LNG), and nuclear fuels
<his agreement marks a significant leap from typical EU energy imports from the U.S., which stood at roughly $75 billion annually in 2024
https://chatgpt.com/share/688db29c-48cc-8005-b0a3-54e8b10a39b2
>The EU’s energy purchases from the U.S. will increase by approximately 233% under the new agreement.
Not bad.

>>2413286
Based! Destroy urop!

>>2413203
Why is Medvedev quoting Trump on "walking dead"? Where did he get that quote that made him start hinting at Russia's dead-hand system? Did Trump publicly call the Russian leaders the "walking dead" or something…or was it in private?
See also Zelensky suddenly piping up in recent days about "regime change" again. It's been a long time since he's done that because the Biden admin told him to shut it.
Trump is definitely simple-minded enough to think offing Russia's leaders will give him what he wants, and he's also simple-minded enough to think that he can dance around US culpability if the Ukrainian proxy claims credit for the attack, probably expecting that only Zelensky would take the blowback, which would give another angle on all this Zaluzhny shit the West has been running lately.

>>2413282
I think it's generally impossible to take Tricky Dicky Nixon serious.

>>2413321 (me)
I can shoot down my own schizo theory a little: apparently Medvedev was referring to the Walking Dead TV show as a fav of Trump's or something? I'm not American. Can some of you "MAGAcoms" tell me the connection between Trump and this TV show?

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>>2413328
Dropped it a long time ago
I just know one of my favorite reaction pics of all time is from there

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>>2413327
>“Do you know what happened to the Romans?” Nixon asked. “The last six Roman emporers were fags.”

“The Russians, ____ it, they root them [homosexuals] out, they don’t let them around at all,” Nixon said. “I don’t know what they do with them.” Part of the answer to that question may lie in the archives of the Communist International in the former Soviet Union.

>. “You see, homosexuality, dope, uh, immorality in general: These are the enemies of strong societies,” Nixon pointed out. “That’s why the Communists and the left-wingers are pushing it.”


>“They’re trying to destroy us.”


<“The upper class in San Francisco is that way. The Bohemian Grove that I attend from time to time-the Easterners and the others would come there-but it is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine, the San Francisco crowd that goes in there. It's just terrible. I mean, I don't even want to shake hands with anybody from San Francisco…You know one of the reasons that fashions have made women look so terrible is because the goddammned designers hate women. Now that's the truth. You watch…some if those fellows, they have the flat-chested thing with horrible looking styles they run. That was really the designers taking it out on the women. I'm sure of that.”

>>2412441
>there are no permanent strategic interests.
That's not what you are arguing. You are claiming there's going to be such a power vacuum after Putin that there will be a crisis in Russia's position that results in it giving up a great power role in emergent multipolarity for a Christian alliance against it. The contradictions in which are papered over by cultural idealism on your part but projected onto Russia. Those contradictions are
1. America is a garbage partner. Russia can see how it treats Europe as the US intensifies competition with Russia, such as in the arctic, and destabilizes the middle east. It would isolate Russia from the world while making it insecure
2. American vassalage and a Christian Europe are incapable of reintegrating Russia into Europe (which has nosedived in value as the continent declines + energy ties have always been a political liability that fed Western calculus it could force NATO expansion) and settling the Ukraine crisis. Even with some kind of fantastic ideological alignment, religion would not overcome the antagonism between Russia and butthurt belters. The alliance would self-divide like Europe already did
3. This pivot comes at the expense of the independence and sanctions resilience afforded by the multipolarity of BRICS, which allowed Russia to dodge the fait accompli of inevitable Westernization that would force it to accept NATO expansion and reverse Putinism

Russia was previously cornered and defeated absent a rising China. The latter is what enabled Russia to ultimately oppose NATO expansion in a way it couldn't in the 90s and 2000s. Ties to China are also fundamentally unlike the vassalage demanded by the US, which ties business to the politics of global hegemony, and BRICS allows Russia to navigate between India and China first to secure its own independence and second to manage the antagonism between India and China. The war has cemented all of this.

Nobody except people on the internet or the Democrat party arguing a Russiagate far-right international, which is really a way of coping with the global populist backlash to globalization and libs merging with neocons, believe Russia is breaking with this path. There is no trend of publications or thinkers in the West or Russia claiming this is a possibility. It was an ideological construct completely shattered after 2022 when we got a look at Russia's real strategic ties that enable it to survive and continue with or without Putin.

I'm not sure why you are citing Iran as an example of anything. Iran was offered defense ties by Russia but rejected them out of fear of antagonizing the US. Syria is also not a counterexample, it was not thrown away due to Donbass but instead lost despite Russian efforts due to the sanctions and decay of the Ba'athist state. Russia (and Iran) spent the last days warning Syria and pressuring it to negotiate with Turkey. Anything further at that point would've required Russia to fight the war in Syria itself, which was impossible

Ritter too thinks Trump is going for a decap attempt, but Ritter's record in this war has been mediocre, to put it nicely.

Ritter:

>The sharp exchange of words between President Trump and former President Medvedev underscores just how dangerous the deteriorating relations between the US and Russia have become.


>The threats being promulgated are not idle ones.


>President Trump has become enthralled with the Israeli “Nasrallah” solution—leadership decapitation and middle management disruption designed to bring about the rapid collapse of a government/system.


>It was tried—and failed—in Iran.


>But Trump is being advised by Russophobes who believe that the US can successfully implement such a plan against Russia.


>This plan begins with sanctions, as all such plans do.


>It ends with a decapitation strike on Moscow.


>Trump’s imagined conversation with Putin, where he threatened to “bomb the sh*t out of Moscow”, is indicative of the President’s thinking in this regard.


>The preferred decapitation strike is done using B-52 bombers launching cruise missiles, accompanied by Trident missiles launched from Ohio-class submarines operating off the coast of Russia, allowing for a flatter trajectory flight and shorter flight time.


>Medvedev’s comment about the “Dead Hand” indicates that Russia is well aware of Trump’s plans

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>>2413339
Don't know why I can only find these shitty articles with quotes instead of transcripts, then everything is pay-walled on top.:

https://archive.is/GK3U5#selection-1900.0-1900.1
>“Archie is sitting here with his hippie son-in-law, married to the screwball daughter,” Nixon relates. “The son-in-law apparently goes both ways. This guy (enters). He’s obviously queer, wears an ascot, but not offensively so. Very clever. Uses nice language. Shows pictures of his parents. And so Arch goes down to the bar. Sees his best friend, who used to play professional football. Virile, strong, this and that. Then the fairy comes into the bar.”

<Nixon feels compelled to tell his chums: “I don’t mind the homosexuality, I understand it . . . Nevertheless, goddamn, I don’t think you glorify it on public television, homosexuality, even more than you glorify whores. We all know we have weaknesses. But, goddamn it, what do you think that does to kids? You know what happened to the Greeks! Homosexuality destroyed them. Sure, Aristotle was a homo. We all know that so was Socrates.”


<“But he never had the influence television had,” Ehrlichman says, apparently referring to Socrates.


>“You know what happened to the Romans?” says Professor Nixon. “The last six Roman emperors were fags. Neither in a public way. You know what happened to the popes? They (had sex with) the nuns, that’s been goin’ on for years, centuries. But the Catholic Church went to hell, three or four centuries ago. It was homosexual, and it had to be cleaned out. That’s what’s happened to Britain, it happened earlier to France.”


>“Let’s look at the strong societies,” says Nixon. “The Russians. Goddamn, they root ’em out. They don’t let ’em around at all. I don’t know what they do with them. Look at this country. You think the Russians allow dope? Homosexuality, dope, immorality are the enemies of strong societies. That’s why the communists and left-wingers are clinging to one another. They’re trying to destroy us. I know Moynihan will disagree with this, (Atty. Gen. John) Mitchell will, and Garment will. But, goddamn, we have to stand up to this.”


<“It’s fatal liberality,” declares Ehrlichman, ever the sycophant.


>“Huh?” says Nixon.


<“It’s fatal liberality,” says Ehrlichman. “And with its use on television, it has such leverage.”


>Nixon asks Ehrlichman to consider northern California. “You know what’s happened.”


<“San Francisco has just gone clear over,” says Ehrlichman.


>“But it’s not just the ratty part of town,” says Nixon. “The upper class in San Francisco is that way. The Bohemian Grove (an elite, secrecy-filled gathering outside San Francisco), which I attend from time to time. It is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine, with that San Francisco crowd. I can’t shake hands with anybody from San Francisco.”


>Nixon finishes things off by turning into an observer of ladies’ fashions.


>“Decorators. They got to do something. But we don’t have to glorify it,” says Nixon. “You know one of the reasons fashions have made women look so terrible is because the goddamned designers hate women. Designers taking it out on the women. Now they’re trying to get some more sexy things coming on again.”


<“Hot pants,” says Ehrlichman.


>“Jesus Christ,” murmurs the president.


You know he was raised Quaker?

>>2413342
yea hes only good for arms control questions

The deep/permanent state are going to do what they are going to do. Maybe Trump might ok some more aggressive shit than his D counterpart would, like killing Soleimani, or bombing the nuclear sites or whatever, but it ultimately means nothing. Screencap this. Nothing ever happens.

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>>2413361
Lol, is that old or did you just make that? Should be a banner.

>The Russian manufacturing sector, that is, everything related to factories, production of goods, machinery, etc, continues to decline and in July reached its worst level since March 2022

Oh noes

>>2412692
>sources claim

>>2413386
Old(-ish), someone else's OC

>>2413282
Thank you for your attention to this matter!

>>2413339
>>2413347
Meanwhile also Nixon:

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>>2413250
>I knew before he got in he would cave to the permanent/deep state
He is the deep state retard

>Russian President Medvedev Dances to American Boy

>>2413465
Given the reaction over a Medvedev nothingburger, maybe he really was intending to try a decap strike through the Ukraine proxy. The Kremlinites would have only themselves to blame, ultimately.

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>>2412894
no, what are YOU going to do when we build our Posada comuna? Submit to Posada, be a saboteur, frame Russians, initiate the final space dolphin communist revolution.

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I'll keep it real with you Mr Putin
Fire when ready

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kek

>>2413120
the fact that the orange potato decided to bite the bait, it's hilarious. there's no 1, and 2, for trump, because people deluded like that doesn't have a plan.
>>2413216
>Putin and his successors are doing a greater shift not seen since Peter the Great
It's sad that after Stalin, no one did a major geopolitical shift towards China.
>>2413342
>>2413343
is he still sucking trump's cock?
>Trump is being advised by Russophobes
oh, that answers the question.
it's never the president, a con, a functional illiterate, who takes its own decisions and it's a 80 years old man, no, it's the "advisors".
>>2413339
>>2413347
he's like your average homophobic grandpa. all the time obsessed with them, to the point he might be a secret homo.
>>2413446
oh, so it's like:
>homo society destruction not for me, but for thee.

>>2413446
I was just reading the part of Hudson 's super imperialism book that was talking exactly about this

Chug and uhg, what is the difference?

>>2413625
>is he still sucking trump's cock?
STAGES OF 'WAIT FOR DRUMPF'
1. "Based Trump is going to ____"
2. "Man, Trump is getting bad intel/advice." <== Ritter is still stuck at this point, while most MAGA-friendly Ziggas have progressed to…
3. "The buck stops with Trump, and he's made Biden's war his war."

>>2413554
China definitely won't yield to US pressure, but I'm not confident in India standing its ground for longer than two weeks.
There's literally no reason to give Trump what he wants, and yet he's second only to Zelensky in getting everything he wants by whining enough and making enough noise.

>>2413658
America doesn't have much leverage over India in that regard. cheap oil is too important for the economy

You get control of Medvedev's Telegram/X for one post. What do you write?
I'd go
<If this is how you distract from your Epstein problems, Mr. Trump, it may be incumbent upon us for security reasons to release our copies of the Epstein files ourselves so you're stuck having to explain your… proclivities… instead of starting WWIII.

>>2413665
This implies Russian FSB is good enough to sneak someone onto pedo island past security. They're a lot less skilled than the KGB that's for sure.

>>2413665
I’d type:

<i like sucking putins big fat cock, it makes me feel alive, i hope someday he lets me put it in my ass so he can fill me up with his manly seed

When is based proletariat revolting?

Do you guys also post on pols uhg chugs?

>>2413678
No, fuck off.

>>2413683
Found the poltard

>>2413667
the KGB was completely useless if we are being honest

>>2413652
Trump undoubtedly had good instincts on the Ukraine war, even Noam Chomsky and Chas Freeman said so. However, he's in over his head and his grand proclamations about ending the war were met everywhere with skepticism. His appointments then showed there's nothing about Trump 2 different from Trump 1.

>>2413676
Russia is in love with liberalism and Ukkkraine is in love with nazoid ideology so never.

BREAKING | Indian Foreign Minister:
"Our economy will not be run from the White House… Russian oil will continue to flow to India."

>>2413625
Nixon most certainly had gay urges. Like the whole "we all have our weaknesses… but goddammit it'll destroy civilization!" Not to say he was gay per se but his whole thing was being a repressed, self-loathing striver and autismo.

>>2414049
he was just hellenic

>>2414049
do you think trump has gay urges? he always comments on mens appearance as good looking especially if theres muscly soldiers.

>>2414056
>appreciating male beauty makes you gay
are we still in high school? philistinism.

>>2413975
I think i'm done with the idea he ever had good "instincts". What he had is rhetoric. He needed to create some counter-narrative to Biden's signature policy (Ukraine) and complicate that policy for Biden/Harris. He also knew that voters tend to like the idea of getting out of costly wars and candidates who run as anti-war usually win (Obama and Bush both did, as did Trump 1). His position on Ukraine was always incoherent and unprincipled.

Trump is a bullshit artist and a con-man who's only real skill or real instinct is knowing how to read a room and dupe rubes into thinking he's on their side.

>>2414060
I think all of this can be true at once. Trump is Trump, he can both have good instincts and see all crises of decline as a showman's chance for personal rule, which fails due to the incoherence you mention. This means he was pretty much alone among his peers in disowning the Ukraine war from the outset. Then he makes grand claims about ending it, and finally fails miserably because he has no real understanding or interest.
So on the one hand neocons defected for real reasons (ideological break), and then Trump employs them anyway for real reasons (loyalty over ideology). With Russia and to a lesser extent China, he will not care if you are a democracy or a dictatorship and will engage diplomatically with all. He will also be incapable of doing the actual diplomacy. He will turn his fiercely loyal base against traditional US policies, then fail to deliver anything for them as they're dragged back to war anyway. He'll be afraid of war with Iran in the first term, then get jealous of Israel's spotlight in the second and strike Iran

He just adds to the growing chaos he recognizes. He demoralizes even as he recognizes low national spirit

>>2413343
>>The preferred decapitation strike is done using B-52 bombers launching cruise missiles, accompanied by Trident missiles launched from Ohio-class submarines operating off the coast of Russia, allowing for a flatter trajectory flight and shorter flight time.

would be kinda hilarious if they try this shit because he thinks the iran strike worked. russia #1 in aa tech and #2 in quantity. maybe he also think russia doesn't have domestic aa like us. sadly pootler will probably hit germany instead of virginia

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>>2414056
I dunno but he's very queeny and loves Rococo and musicals.


>>2414140
Vid

how bad is it going? the youtbers and media are saying very bad, but they always are saying this.

>>2412692
The thing, is that at least here, the MSMS basically ignores the battlefield entirely. It's ridiculous, they havepnt shown a map of Ukraine or reported on anything in the war besides airstrikes for like two years now. There is like an unspoken rule to characterize the war in terms only outside of the actual battlefield since the annexation and that one counteroffensive back then.

Eventually, they are gonna have to turn around and be like
>"BTW all of this was happening. "
>"And you gotta be super mad about it, but we chose not to report on it all this time , for no particular reason."
>"So, anyway, here is what you need to know…"

Which fair enough, they can do with Sudan or Ethiopia, but Ukraine is also in the news every single day. They go out of the way to put the Ukraine side by side with Israel, as well. So IDK how bad it is for Ukraine but the coverage reeks of desperation.

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>>2413658
For one, India cannot compromise their working force like iurop does.

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who is our guy here?
whomst deserve (extremely) critical support?

>>2414205
Russia is getting BTFO and humiliated like usual hence all their offensives failing and the usual zigger voices are keeping quiet and hoping no one notices hence why this thread has become so off topic over the past few weeks.

>>2413282
>>2414174
Didn't most zizters here desperately want Trump at the top because he is le president of peace?

>>2414266
I voted for Trump hoping he would severely weaken America and my expectations were met. I didn't expect him to make Russia sign a peace deal though because I understood that Cucktin looks like a complete weakling bitch to most Russians and will continue to look like one until 4 oblasts are under his control so there's zero chance of a deal until then.

>>2414272
>I voted for Trump
Lib

>>2414259
imagine waiting any breath on senseless fringe people with 0 national political or ideological majority and support.

>>2413340
Good post

>>2413509
>>Russian President Medvedev Dances to American Boy
I want him to do this one

>>2414272
Trump will be responsible for killing more Russians with American weapons than any other American president and his approval ratings with Ziggers will go up.

>>2413347
>the catholic church was destroyed by the faggotry of popes having sex with nuns
What the fuck is he talking about

Apparently Russian spetznaz has captured two British colonels

https://x.com/peacemaket71/status/1951349432353697887

>Britain is raging! Its officers were captured by Russian special forces in Ochakiv - Russian fighters penetrated the Ukrainian rear in boats… new details During the operation, called "Skat-12", British officers were captured helping Ukrainian armed forces guide missiles and drones, as well as carry out cyber attacks. Military channels (Militarist, Krymsky Front and many others) inform that an operation by Russian special forces Skat-12 took place in Ochakiv recently. It was prepared for almost two months, including monitoring the object using technical means and news channels. As a result, during the operation, our fighters landed on several boats and penetrated the command center of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. There they captured British soldiers who coordinated the use of British missiles and drones. It is possible that they are also related to the biggest cyber attacks on our infrastructure, especially on Aeroflot. Britain is furiously demanding the return of its citizens, claiming they are mere tourists interested in maritime history. The prisoners include Colonel Edward Blake, a Special Psychological Operations Unit officer, Lieutenant Colonel Richard Carroll and another unidentified officer, believed to be an MI6 intelligence officer who acted as a cyber security adviser. From the moment our special forces landed on the shore until the prisoners were loaded onto the ship and transferred to the base, no more than half an hour passed. On the same day, the British Foreign Office contacted the Russian Ministry of Defense through unofficial channels with a request for the return of British officers who had gone "missing" in Ukraine. London claims that their soldiers were on vacation and came to Ukraine for tourist purposes. They found themselves in Ochakiv completely by chance: they were interested in the history of the navy and wanted to visit the coast where battles took place during the Second World War. However, instead of Ochakiv's historical maps, the detained "tourists" found maps of strategic objects on Russian territory, Russian air defense plans, secret instructions on interaction with Ukrainian drone operators, as well as disks with encrypted data and records of negotiations with the British General Staff. That is why Russian Defense Minister Andrey Belousov allegedly replied to the British that their officers are not subject to exchange: the West will not return them in Red Cross planes. Russia will no longer tolerate covert interventions and hybrid provocations. Instead, he intends to bring British officers to justice for taking part in military actions against our country. Emergency closed meetings are currently being held in the UK to develop a strategy for the way forward Experts note that the Skat-12 operation became part of the new Russian military doctrine, which aims "to proactively control the battlefield": "Strikes are carried out first and without warning, attack strategy in all directions. The Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU) received a new directive: 'Russia no longer waits, but acts first.' The task of the special forces is to act covertly and effectively, instill fear among NATO officers and demotivate them in the issue of providing assistance to the Armed Forces of Ukraine."

>>2413826
… no? they were one of the best spy agency from their creation to their end, they had tons of assets in very important positions, including managing to infiltrate cia counter espionage in the cold war!

Hey guys, has pokrovsk been encircled and about to collapse also this month? I remember you were talking about it in 2023. Time flies eh?

>>2414334
>Some twitter bot posting complete bullshit who gets exposed as a liar in basically all his posts
Nice to see Ziggers have to make up imaginary victories instead of posting real ones

>>2414266
no. Some vaguely wanted him because he was the president of chaos and acceleration of us empire decline. And many responded it wouldnt change much anyway.
its amazing how one or two retards spouting shit will make people think there is somehow a consensus on a fucking anonymous imageboard.

>>2414348
Pokrovsk collapsed a billion times already the reason Ukraine controls it still is because uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>2414350 (You)
>>2414353 (You)
lol (You) are so mad

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inter-fascist conflict (not inter-imperialist because neither side is imperialist (also im using the word fascist as a flippant insult, not as a serious analysis of either sides ideology (although i am aware actual fascists fight on both sides (primarily on the ukrainian side))))

I hope Ukraine wins and pushes out all the Russians. Clearly the Cuckmander in Chief CUCKTIN refuses to learn anything or accomplish anything so he should lose so that he can get replaced by someone with a brain. Then hopefully in another decade a smarter leader with a better plan can invade and take Kiev in 3 days.


>Nothing to see here, just some Nazi salutes at today's football match in Rivne, Ukraine - video by Azov sergeant Dmytro Usychenko, who fought in Mariupol and returned from Russian captivity in 2022

>>2414390
The UAF can barely keep the contact line manned and all this worthy cannon fodder is just out enjoying a football game?

>>2414390
>>2414391
imagine being a nazi faggot and too cowardly to go fight

https://banderalobby.substack.com/p/sorosites-and-banderites
Worth to read.
<Sorosites and Banderites
>The OUN-B, or “Banderite” faction of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, which never ceased to exist since the 1940s, recently denounced Volodymyr Zelensky’s controversial law that would have more or less put Ukraine’s top anti-corruption agencies under his control.
>With the so-called “Sorosites” (a pejorative term for Ukrainian “anti-corruption activists” and journalists beholden to grants from NATO governments and western-funded NGOs) supporting the first major protests against Zelenky’s wartime government, I thought I should finally write something about the Banderites’ relationship with Ukraine’s influential “anticorruption community.”

>Take for example Vitaly Shabunin (picrel, 1, 2 far right of the frame), “Ukraine’s most prominent anti-corruption activist.” He co-founded the “Anti-Corruption Action Center” (AntAC), largely financed by the US and EU governments, as well as George Soros’ International Renaissance Foundation. It just so happens that this famous “Sorosite”was an early member of the OUN-B’s far-right Youth Nationalist Congress (est. 2001), according to his friend Yaroslav Yurchyshyn, a Banderite politician and former “anti-corruption activist” who led Transparency International Ukraine before joining parliament in 2019.


>Earlier this month, police raided Shabunin’s home, and mobilized him, outraging “civil society” and “friends of Ukraine” around the world. kek


>“Events in Ukraine” by Peter Korotaev, recently summarized the Shabunin saga in this way: “The liberals have chosen him as their leader in the struggle against Zelensky, who they are now attacking as a miniature Putin because of his ruthless (in fact, rather lackluster) efforts to subject some of them to the same standards as the rest of the population.”


>As he explains, the so-called Sorosites are supposed to “function as the local colonial administration of the US,” and their beloved anticorruption organs are actually “instruments of colonial control set up by Washington.”


>Peter has been covering “Shabunin-gate” for over a year, such as last summer: “According to strana, Zelensky and his entourage are displeased with attempts by US ambassador Bridget Brinks to protect figures like Shabunin.” Meanwhile, “The head of the Anti-Corruption Centre (AntAC) is accused of driving around Kiev on a Nissan Pathfinder which was purchased on the basis of donations for the AFU [Armed Forces of Ukraine]. The car was meant to be used in the Donbass.”


>“What if the Sorosites are right to fear the Georgian scenario?” asked a post from Events in Ukraine about the liberal protests against bill no. 12414. “What if Zelensky is purging them in preparation for some kind of agreement with Russia?” This is a tantalizing idea, considering that Sorosites and Banderites seem to be united in their conviction that Ukraine and Russia should fight to the death, but Zelensky has already backed down.


>As the situation gets worse for Ukraine, militant culture warriors are still planning the “decolonization” of Russia while avoiding the frontlines. Look no further than Yurchyshyn’s parliamentary commission to “Make Russia Small Again,” and the “International Center for Ukrainian Victory” that a friend of the “Bandera Lobby” co-founded with AntAC leaders.


>“President Discussed the Victory Plan with Representatives of Ukraine’s Civil Society,” Zelensky’s office reported last October. Co-founders of the International Center for Ukrainian Victory (ICUV) attended the meeting, including Hanna Hopko, a former member of parliament (2014-19). That evening, Zelensky caused a stir by wearing one of the shirts he received from ICUV leaders that said “Make Russia Small Again.” Perhaps for him it was a joke, but for others, like Hopko and the Banderites, it is a serious cause.


>It’s necessary to return to the topic of the Reanimation Package of Reforms (RPR) Coalition established in 2014 after the “Maidan” revolution, which I’ve written about several times on this blog and Defending History since 2020. ICUV co-founder Olena Halushka, for example, the head of international relations for AntAC, had the same job in the RPR Coalition.


>With funding from USAID, Global Affairs Canada, the EU Delegation to Ukraine, the United Nations Development Program, and others, the RPR Coalition at least used to be the “largest and most visible reform network” in Ukraine. According to its website, “With the RPR’s advocacy support, revolutionary laws were adopted concerning anti-corruption, public broadcasting, restoring trust in the judicial system, higher education, and others. [Original emphasis]” The “other” areas included “national memory policy,” which the RPR delegated to its Banderite “experts” from the Lviv-based “Center for Research of the Liberation Movement,” an OUN-B front group.

>>2414413 (me)
cont.
https://banderalobby.substack.com/p/sorosites-and-banderites
>(Meanwhile, as told by Wikipedia, the US and EU-funded AntAC “assisted Ukraine’s newly elected parliament in developing quality anti-corruption legislation, including laws establishing the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine, Special Anti-Corruption Prosecutor’s Office, National Agency on Corruption Prevention, the High Anti Corruption Court open property registers, and electronic register of asset declarations of public officials.”)

>Hanna Hopko >>2414413 (third picture, far left red circle and 1st picrel in this post), the founding RPR coordinator, joined parliament in 2014, quickly becoming the chair of its foreign affairs committee and a hardline pro-western politician. That year, Foreign Policy magazine named Hopko in its annual list of “100 Leading Global Thinkers,” she completed a “Leadership Seminar” at Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service, and the US-funded National Democratic Institute (NDI) recognized her with its annual “Democracy Award.” Hopko gave Vice President Joe Biden a tour of Kyiv in June, and Biden introduced her at the NDI’s Democracy Award Dinner in December: “she’s not only smart, she’s tough, she knows … Ukraine has been a kleptocracy.” Soon she joined the steering board of the World Economic Forum’s “New Economic Vision for Ukraine.”


>Hanna Hopko allied with the Banderites before the 2019 elections that saw the rise of Volodymyr Zelensky and his “Servant of the People” party. That year she started to speak at conferences in Washington organized by an OUN-B front group, the “Center for US-Ukrainian Relations” (CUSUR), which is supposedly committed to “combating corruption” in Ukraine. Hopko’s friend from Australia, OUN-B leader Stefan Romaniw (second picrel), who got to know to her as a vice president of the Ukrainian World Congress, introduced Hopko at the June 2019 CUSUR event as someone who “just about lives here now in America.” Last year Hopko mourned Romaniw (rot in hell, bozo) as “an example of infinite, sacrificial and active love for Ukraine.”


>Less than three weeks before the new president’s party dominated the 2019 parliamentary elections in Ukraine, flushing out Hopko and many other nationalists, “the representatives of Ukrainian civil society” from the RPR Coalition drafted their “Toronto Principles” for the “Ukraine Reform Conference” that the Canadian government hosted in early July. (Some priorities: “Improve the effectiveness of anticorruption infrastructure,” “Develop and protect civil society,” “Realize cultural and national memory.”) One of the highlights of the conference was a conversation between Hanna Hopko and the Canadian foreign minister, Chrystia Freeland. Whereas Freeland has struggled to navigate the memory war, in 2018, Hopko co-sponsored an RPR-drafted bill with OUN-B leader Oleh Medunitsya that rehabilitated veterans of the OUN and its Ukrainian Insurgent Army.


>By 2020, Hopko supported the Banderite-led “Capitulation Resistance Movement” (2019-22) and more menacing protests spearheaded by the Azov movement. As the far-right increasingly threatened Zelensky with regime change, Hopko described his first year in power as the “year of [pro-Russian] revanche.” In the final days of 2019, she denounced a prisoner swap between Russia and Ukraine as “revanche, betrayal and capitulation packaged as a move to save human lives.” Meanwhile, AntAC, Transparency International Ukraine, and allied NGOs warned, “Ukraine risks making its justice system a hostage of the demands of the aggressor state.”

>>2414415 (me)
>>2414413 (me)
cont.
>Hopko’s star rose further among the “friends of Ukraine” as the new head of “ANTS,” a “National Interest Advocacy Network” easily confused with AntAC. It was in 2021 that Hopko, ANTS and AntAC first organized a USAID and EU-funded “Zero Corruption” conference in Kyiv, including speeches from USAID administrator Samantha Power, some zealously “pro-Ukraine” members of Congress, and Volodymyr Zelensky himself. The 2022 conference featured more officials from Kyiv, Washington, and European capitals.

>Soon after the Russian invasion, Hanna Hopko co-founded the International Center for Ukrainian Victory with her friends from AntAC, Daria Kaleniuk (the executive director) and Olena Halushka (head of international relations). Hopko and Kaleniuk became loud proponents for a no-fly zone in Ukraine, to be enforced by NATO. Opinion polls indicated that a large majority of people in the US supported this idea, apparently not understanding the implications. Even politicians like Marco Rubio recognized that it would mean “starting World War III.”


>In 2022, AntAC received a “Democracy Award” from one of its sponsors, the US-funded National Endowment for Democracy (NED), which noted that AntAC is a “NED grantee” that “organized protests and advocacy actions in cities including Paris, Berlin, Brussels, and Washington, DC.” The “Center for Civil Liberties” in Ukraine, another recipient of the 2022 NED Democracy Award, funded by the US, EU and Soros, even won the Nobel Peace Prize that year, despite endorsing NATO military intervention in Ukraine.


>AntAC and ICUV co-founder Daria Kaleniuk (second pic, featuring with BoJo) famously “berated” the British leader Boris Johnson during a visit to Poland, about a week after the invasion. “We are asking for the no-fly zone, we are seeing response that it will trigger World War III, but what is the alternative, Mr. Prime Minister? … You’re coming to Poland, you’re not coming to Kyiv, Prime Minister, you are not coming to Lviv, because you are afraid! Because NATO is not willing to defend [Ukraine], because NATO is afraid of World War III, but it is already starting!”


>Johnson admitted that “there is not enough that we can do … to help in the way that you want, and I’ve got to be honest about that, and when you talk about the no-fly zone, as I said to Volodymyr Zelensky, I think a couple times, unfortunately the implication of that is that the UK would be engaged in shooting down Russian planes, it would be engaged in direct combat with Russia.”


>In the coming days, Kaleniuk and Hopko met with Tony Blinken, the US Secretary of State—not for the first or the last time. Later that year, Kaleniuk testified to Congress’ Helsinki Commission that “Ukraine’s successful story in fighting corruption is the ultimate threat to Vladimir Putin and his kleptocratic regime,” LMAO and Hopko helped to explain why “Decolonizing Russia” is a “Moral and Strategic Imperative.”


>In April 2022, Hanna Hopko said “NATO should use its air defence systems to start protecting the sky over Ukraine,” and “NATO troops do not even need to set their foot in Ukraine.” Shortly after visiting NATO headquarters last October, and days before meeting Zelensky to hear about his “Victory Plan,” Hopko declared that actually, “NATO countries should send troops to Ukraine faster and lift restrictions on deep strikes [inside Russia] finally.”


>In 2023, Hopko explained, the choice is NATO membership for Ukraine, or World War III. Furthermore, “Ukrainian Victory means a defeat of [the] axis of evil, not just russian [sic].” In 2024, she attended the inauguration of Taiwan’s new president, and citing the Banderites’ favorite Washington think tank “expert” on Russian collapse, Hopko updated her social media followers, “There are several possible scenarios for NATO’s direct involvement in Ukraine and urgent preparations for action need to be made now, says Janusz Bugajski.” Last December, this prominent anticorruption activist proposed another solution: a pair of Trump Towers in a liberated Crimea, and one in Georgia, to “stabilize the region and dilute russian influence.”

>>2414417 (me)
>>2414415 (me)
>>2414413 (me)
cont.
>It’s no coincidence that the anticorruption warriors are some of the greatest champions of a devastating proxy war in Ukraine. The eternal fight against corruption and the internal war against the “pro-Russian fifth column” is one and the same, at least for some Ukrainian nationalists and western officials.

>For Zelensky, the return of Biden must have portended “tough love” from the “friends of Ukraine” in Washington, and their best friends in Ukraine’s “anticorruption community.” As Biden’s former advisor Michael Carpenter (picrel, with Biden) predicted in 2017, if his boss won the presidency in 2020, he would be “openly pushing Ukraine’s political leaders to do more in combatting corruption.” In 2020, Carpenter told Politico, “We can give Ukraine all the Javelin missiles we want, but if Russia has political influence in that country through various corrupt relationships, then [they] are walking in through the back door while we’ve got our eyes glued to the front door.”


>According to Carpenter, “We have to promote Ukraine sovereignty in a holistic way, which means both military support and security assistance, but also helping Ukraine beat back this growing, by the way, Russian covert influence within its politics.” After Biden returned to the White House, Zelensky’s National Security and Defense Council sanctioned several “pro-Russian” TV stations, apparently triggering the build up of Russian troops that preceded the 2022 invasion.


>As the far-right Capitulation Resistance Movement got started in 2019, Carpenter described the peace process embraced by Zelensky as “the primary threat to Ukraine internally right now.” Speaking to the Banderite CUSUR, he suggested that the US should support separatist movements in Russia. With nationalists agitating for regime change in 2020, Carpenter made a speech in Kyiv, declaring that “we are at a crucial crossroads,” and Ukraine is “ground zero” for an epic “clash” between “liberal democracy” and “authoritarian oligarchy.” Under President Biden, this former managing director of the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement served as Ambassador to the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, and then Senior Director for Europe at the US National Security Council. As of 2025, he still says that Ukraine will recover all of its territory, it just might take several decades to accomplish. KEK

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>>2414384
Ukrainian collapse any minute now

>>2414259
Obviously the tatar, the other one is a regular libtard, red stripe is anti-Lukashenko CIA retardation which attracts fascists, nationalists and sadly anarchist scum.

>>2413479
>He is the deep state retard
<The celebrity Manhattan real estate developer who became the figurehead of a meme movement is the deep state
No u tard.

>>2414415
>>(Meanwhile, as told by Wikipedia, the US and EU-funded AntAC “assisted Ukraine’s newly elected parliament in developing quality anti-corruption legislation, including laws establishing the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine, Special Anti-Corruption Prosecutor’s Office, National Agency on Corruption Prevention, the High Anti Corruption Court open property registers, and electronic register of asset declarations of public officials.”)

And it's clearly worked out for them

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>>2414435
leg status?

>>2414442
what's interesting is that zelya's government was trying to get these people to work at the front lines, I also think he was pressuring the other nato governments to keep the expenditures, the weapons supplies, threatening to cut their precious NGOs, but it backfired.
agent z now is blaming some other people, but the political damage hasn't ended. there are MPs leaving zelyas coalition, I remember one of them saying "you have put in jeopardy the eurobucks and the ameribucks with your stupid law", but it is interesting that these are two faces of the same coin: the nationalists that wanted these NGOs people to go the frontlines are the same people within the NGOs.
someone's gotta give at some point.

FUCK ukraine but also FUCK Cucktin (Cuckmander in Chief)

>>2414446
Yeah, it's hard to imaging Zelensky has many cards left to play. What else can be do? Even giving in to nato demands and mobilizing the 18-24 demo or whatever, what is that gonna buy but a couple more weeks? And it seems like nato is done spending good money after bad.

Something does have to give, but what? Right now it seems like the first will be the front. Now it seems like nato is threatening kaliningrad, imo as a response to Russia positioning itself to take Ukraine. That seems like an empty threat though because it's hard to see them mustering up the gumption for a direct attack first of all, but second, even if they did take it it would mean open war with Russia, and none of them seem prepared for that long of a haul.

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How long before Ukraine retakes Crimea?

>>2414266
depends what you mean by zizters, critical support for russia or blind nationalism? most pro-ru itt wouldnt qualify for "desperately". the continuity of agenda meme is jungle zigga gang so what does that tell u?

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>>2414348
14 sets of two weeks left to go

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A picture that makes Ukrainians into conspiracy theorists believing that Russia offloads their corpses to Ukraine - despite the fact that corpses from exchanges track with videos of mothers of MIA soldiers on Maidan

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All the people of Palestine must have ease of access to being refugees in Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, and Arabia.
As well as all elsewhere.

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>>2414369
a materialist understanding of fascism would require a country to be imperialist before it is fascist.

>>2414413
>Peter Korotaev


guys been a repeat guest on a few pods too
https://www.patreon.com/posts/radio-war-nerd-134970528

>>2414463
>Now it seems like nato is threatening kaliningrad
nah, that's an empty threat.
>Something does have to give, but what?
my bet is as a follows: zeya and the west will propose an armistice, the military will hang up publicly zelya for treason, nazilushny takes over, installs iron grip dictatorship, nafo fellas inundate what's left of Ukraine's institutions, and they'll do a cope victory out of it by telling themselves that all of Ukraine will be theirs some day and that with it, Russia get balkanized.

>>2414266
if you browse telegram channels in Russian, you could've seen in 2024, every words trump said by that time about ukraine was receive by massive skepticism, massive mockery. the only ones falling for that was the average burgerstani.

>>2414481
>you can't criticize yermak because in the first days of 2022 he was killing Chechens.
>t. zelinsky
KEK

>>2414485
And leftytards

How mexicans and colombians are learning how to use FPVs to bring the knowledge to … nefarious actors in latin america, according to an alleged secret memo of the mexican secret service send to the Ukranian counterparts
https://archive.is/Ra4Xs

>And leftytards

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>>2414443

Head status?

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>>2414530
>Nooo war is fun and games watching videos from my mobile. Reality must be banned.

>>2414514
Pro Ukraine people long hated Trump since his comments on NATO as well as those on the left who linked Ukraine to post-9/11 wars. Anti ziggers here just have grievance posts, not much to read usually

Adler oil silo status?

>>2414595
>adler
The krauts are coming! The krauts are coming!

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How badly is ukraine loosing? Will the front line soon collapse?

Anyway, to put it in context, in historical perspective.
It's just amusing how the NATO propaganda turns with the wind. Fortunately for them, they have no historical consciousness whatsoever, or they'd feel very silly.

I was looking up nuclear doctrine in the wake of this recent snafu (btw why should I be concerned about two nuclear subs*, who as far as I know, have a very low missile capacity), and the delusion is remarkable.
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/five-ways-nuclear-war-could-still-happen-10665
The interesting part being
> if Russia and NATO come to blows in Europe – a scenario I thought ridiculous in the 1990s and now must reconsider – Russia will also lose
So we went from "Ruzzia will surely lose against the might of NATO" to "Ok they are winning but slow, Pyrrhically even"
Dignity, imagined supremacy intact.

*the correct response would be: Ok move your little subs to Epstein Island, you fat pedo, no one gives a shit

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>>2414667
>>2414667
>btw why should I be concerned about two nuclear subs*, who as far as I know, have a very low missile capacity)

>>2414670
In any case, India, China, Russia and the US have a nuclear triad (that we know of). Each could fuck everything up, subs are a relatively small component.

Ceterum censeo I never liked their civilization anyway, I am unbothered

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>>2414672
>Each could fuck everything up, subs are a relatively small component.
You just make shit up.

>Sea-Based (SLBMs): Approximately 55% (981 warheads on Trident (D-5) SLBMs).


The reason why is the subs are the most unbeatable. They can travel around undetected and launch from an unpredictable location closer to the target than anything else. The air flight path can be detected, the minutemen have to fly all the way from our territory and their locations are likely known beforehand.

>>2414675
I mean I get that subs are useful for the purpose of waging total, world-ending war.
Also you got me, sometimes it is useful to just throw something out there and wait for what comes back ;)
I did not want to look up US nuke capability in more detail bc really I am over it. That was yesterday.
My point remains insofar as it does not matter at the moment whether they be stationed at Epstein Island or just off the coast of the US.

>>2414477
Russians are taking territory are they not? Which means even if Russians took 100 more casualties than Ukrainians the numbers would look like that since you have more important stuff to do than taking bodies with you when you retreat.

>>2414878
Shhh, logic and ziggers doesn't work well

You mean taking territory <consistently>
and are practically never being beat back
Again, I never look at the arrows but there is a pretty big difference here (if they took significant casualties they must never be beaten back even a single inch, to stay with your example). The difference between an average and a consistent rule. Again important distinction which may get lost in the shuffle if you are not careful/listen to (and believe) propaganda or other things kneecaping your ability to understand.

>>2414894
>and are practically never being beat back
Which explains the consistency of body recovery, not many dead Russians you can get behind your lines.
I'm also not interested in propaganda, do you seriously believe Russians invented some sort of magic that breaks the general rule that combat is more costly for the offensive side rather than the defensive side?

Another thing is that they classified their demographic data which leads me to think they want to hide some massive losses (and emigration). And like I get it, a war like that can be sustained only with high popular support, the only real way Russia loses is when the money runs out while people start to ask too many questions and descend in the street, in this way it's no different than a colonial/imperialist war. The question is if hiding the true cost of the war can carry them until the end or if it will just blow up in their faces.

>>2414878
Russia being on offense doesn't explain that disparity.

>>2414479
In the sense of being dominated by finance capital, yes.

>>2414907
>do you seriously…
Always be followed by some retardation
Let's go over it one more time.
One of two things has to be the case:
Russia is taking land, without ever having to retreat, basically
This is I believe strategic superiority (and vast superiority, tho not a military head at all)
Russia is taking quite low losses
This would add tactical superiority
One or two logically has to be, there is no way around it, be the case.
They do not both have to necessarily be the case.
Now you bring in a bunch of stuff that doesn't interest me.
If you get it, good for you, like whatever

>>2414912
>Russia is taking quite low losses
you cant be fucking serious come on man


>>2414926
No you come on
Do you not see all the clauses and so on
My next screed will be titled "Reading, the lost art"
Come on yourself

>>2414931
>uhmm you cant read because you didn't like my completely off base assumptions about how the war is going
people like you are why political commissars got a bad rep in the Red Army and why they had to reform the dual command structure. imagine a bunch of retards telling their men to charge directly into machine gun positions because they decided to only read Marx instead of military history and theory

>>2414938
I was being very precise, conservative even, so the opposite, there is no assumptions here. Because I heard the word logic. I am here on the most basic level trying to give people some tools for thoughts, as it were. Beyond that, it is on you, like my responsibility ends there.

>>2414927
"I can't fire on my own people" - expression of national chauvinism. russian national chauvinism killed the ussr, and russian national chauvinism let it happen

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>Donetsk ran out of water and now they drink piss instead
I'm so glad Cucktin declared this war so that the liberated Ukrainians can drink piss because he had no plan and no brain to think of a way to ensure adequate water rations.

>>2414910
It does you moron. What idiot when retreating thinks to himself "oh let's quickly grab a hundred corpses on the way out" so we can beat the Russians in corpse exchanges.

>>2414956
>a. Source?
>b. “Cucktin should have accounted for Ukrainian war crimes” - kill yourself because that’s been one of the impetuses for this conflict

So we went from "you can never, ever beat NATO" (see above)
to
"winning all the way to Berlin"
This is what I mean with propaganda, concentrated.
Like, think.

>>2414958
https://meduza.io/en/feature/2025/07/25/not-a-drop-to-drink
Cucktin not prepared even though this problem goes back to 2014.

>>2414963
>meduza
>by attacking Ukraine over war crimes, Russia wasn’t prepared for war crimes
They’re war *crimes* because they’re often not preventable, in the same way you can’t prevent all murders or all fraud

>>2414972
If the soviets could keep everyone fed and watered despite losing massive chunks of territory to Nazis then Cucktin has zero excuse. Amazing how ziggers always want to hold Cucktin to the lowest possible standards because they can't cope with the fact that their leader is genuinely mentally retarded.

>>2414972
>Nooooooo it's not fair that Ukraine can cause water shortages! That's a war crime I didn't expect even though something similar already happened in 2014!
<So logistics wasn't part of your planning? There was no one on your staff charged with monitoring and drawing up plans for getting water to the civilian population? Doesn't that mean you are fucking retarded since every military should always be thinking of things like this?
>NOOOOO IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO PREPARE FOR AHHHHH PLEASE GO EASY ON ME UKRAINE

>>2414978
>>2414983
This is the attitude of Zionists, are you really that desperate to excuse war crimes by Ukraine?

Is Israel prepared for an attack on its water supply and desalination?
Just imagine what would happen if someone did that to american interests. We would not be having this convo, we would be vaporized. Are you not glad that is not the case? For my part I am starting to think it would be a liberation.
Anyway, it is not something you can really prepare for it is just a matter of political will.
And Ukraine is on a Kamikaze mission, maybe the Japanese would be the more apt comparison than the nazis.

>>2414994
>If you're too stupid to prepare plans in case of water shortages during an active war, you are actually a Jew
The absolute state of ziggers. I'm sure in your nonexistent brain that sounded like a very cool and coherent rebuttal.

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uh-hu
Argumentation that makes you wish for sweet oblivion

>>2415006
It has already been established that part of the cause of this conflict is Ukraine cutting off water supplies to Crimea, the idea that in going to war over such crimes that the crime itself is now the responsibility of the defendant rather than the prosecuted is very much the cope Zionists use as in
>Well Hamas should have realised that hospitals would have been bombed, why didn’t they come up with a contingency for that?

Also fuck off with your Zionist = Jew post, you are an Israeli supporter.

>>2414957
why is it getting worse then

>>2414957
>It does you moron.
Then you should have no problem showing the same disparity in other wars.

The reality is the Ukraine war is not static (I have no idea why you are assuming one side is constantly retreating) and the conventional firepower gap explains casualty disparity.

>>2415012
The Hamas contingency is the tunnel network you retard. Hamas knows Israel will bomb them so they don't leave all their important stuff jut lying around above ground. Hamas is literally smarter than Cucktin.

>>2414983
>a story about ukrainian war crimes is actually a story about russian weakness
this meme is desperate to revive 2022 european hubris and overconfidence

>>2415027
The tunnels are hospitals?

>>2414521
>Head status?
you tell, me sleepy hohol.

>>2414558
the pro ukrainian crowd also posts in /pol/ besides reddit.
>>2414628
by the end of this year, and despite all the money funding, western equipment, three times rearmament of ukraine, and the countless mobilization waves, most likely Donetsk completely will be free of hohols. let's see Kherson and Zaporozhie.

they just can't resist to proudly exhibit their nazism. can't they.

>>2415066
> Donetsk completely will be free of hohols
are the last remaining natives going to be sent in meatwaves again?

>>2414667
oh, well, that's exactly how their propaganda works, and they rely on idiotized people, highly propagandized, and with inexistent reading skills and critical thinking.
>>2414670
>an entire country
yes, Tuvalu is a country, anon. and that's propaganda.
>>2414675
you went from one submarine to a flotilla of submarines, kek. you seem to be happy about a potential nuclear war.
>>2414878
>>2414881
Kursk status? considering this exchange table >>2414477 and "Russians are taking territor"
:^)
fafo, you are not smart.

>>2414963
>meduza
You literally cannot be serious

>>2414956
literally it's ukraine closing the rivers upstream. but worry not, like Crimea once couldn't access Mariupol rivers to have fresh water running, and now they have, Donetsk will have it too, you retarded hoholite.

What’s got the Red Army goreposters so butthurt today?

>>2415070
>are the last remaining natives going to be sent in meatwaves again?
do you mean native ukrainian under the kiev regime? of course, but I wasn't arguing that the streets up to Lvov would be emptied for Russians to conquer.

>>2414996
Israel's desalination plants were targeted and their damage was one of the factors that made Israel seek a ceasefire. Also China having control of 95% of the world's rare earth production basically allowed them to cut off the flow of essential resources to the US when Trump threatened them with tariffs and other restrictions, and the US had to just seethe and back down.

>>2414956
>Since 2022, Pushilin has openly stated that the region’s water supply problem will be fully resolved only once the Russian army captures the city of Sloviansk, which houses the Siverskyi Donets-Donbas Canal’s key infrastructure.
Two more weeks of drinking piss for putin

>>2414957
If they're retreating they're not really doing a very good job of killing Russians are they

And you've got to be the fucking idiot to ignore how for months the ukies have been saying they're severely outnumbered and unable to man the lines properly if at all. The idea that you've got one 60 year old man gunning down waves of russian soldiers along the 5 kilometer corridor he's been left to guard is pure fantasticope.

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germans created, alongside the "corruption perception index", another piece of propaganda to brag that their precious countries are safer than their enemies. lmao.

>>2415109
Ukraine is seeing serious losses all across the front and barring rushing the last of their effective units into pokrovsk they're likely days away from losing that, which means the collapse for the rest of that defense belt shortly thereafter.

>>2414957
>oh let's quickly grab a hundred corpses on the way out
it actually it is. soldier bodies are bargain chips.

>>2414957
Then why were body exchange rates equal when Ukraine was advancing?

>>2415125
Again, they were already “drinking piss” because they didn’t want to suffer cultural genocide from the illegal NATO government in Kiev.
>erm resistance made life worse, so how is that a win?
Is the reason why westoid leftists will never achieve anything

>>2415135
I see Russia is well provisioned on hopium at least

>>2415149
>muh cultural genocide is illegal fuck leftists
champagne socialism more like piss socialism am i right

>>2415149
>cultural genocide
C'mon

>>2415154
>>2415155
It progressed to physical genocide by cutting off water supplies, if you’re not satisfied by cultural genocide

That is to say, if they just left for Russia or agreed to speak Ukrainian despite that not being their native language, then they wouldn’t be “drinking piss”.

So are you people Israelis or do you just simp for anything NATO does?

>inb4 culture is idealism
Yes, but the material reality is that Ukraine wants the land and its resources but not the people residing on it and that’s why a “simple” ban on culture quickly leads to actual genocidal tactics like cutting off water supplies.

I want all of your suicide notes on my desk by end of Monday.

>>2415149
they've earned sovereignty, yet, that's a loss in their minds.

>>2415115
no i specifically meant donbawuenans living in the glorious russian world

>>2415149
> didn’t want to suffer cultural genocide from the illegal NATO government in Kiev.
instead they chose to be bullet sponges for the asiatic invaders from moscow, what a deal

>A TRUMP ADMIN JUST SAID INDIA IS FINANCING THE WAR IN UKRAINE.

>>2415172
maybe you could post videos of the hundreds of people snatched on Donbass as the same way I could do, nafo.

>>2415180
>asiatic invaders from moscow
>least racist nafo bug.
lmao. these are the people that say that the body exchange ratio is a big L for Russia, and that Kursk holds, the "Russian meat waves", for free for nato.

>>2415182
Lmao
All those years of deepthroating Trump amounts to nothing
Fucking hindutva cvcks, this is what happens when you rely on the US

>>2415182
Based India

>>2415185
I hate India but what exactly is happening to them? Trump is just pissing and shitting himself. Nothing will happen

>>2415150
>>2415154
>being this mad that you double reply

>>2415183
here you go, scroll for yourself
https://x.com/search?q=mobilisation%20donbas%20until%3A2022-12-30&src=typed_query
>>2415184
what's your point of contention in relation to muscovites racially, civilisationally and culturally being asian (despite their whole 800 years of history desperately trying to break into europe, to the point of adopting a false slavic identity)?

>>2415184
Thus Europe faces only one alternative: Either Asian barbarism, under the leadership of the Muscovites, will come down on Europe like an avalanche, or Europe must restore Poland and thereby protect itself against Asia with a wall of 20 million heroes, to win time for the consummation of its social transformation.

>>2415198
Cannot wait until Poland genocides itself again with fascism

What's up my west asians?
I see some of you are wildin out again

But for real, no more racism from me, for serious. I deem thee west asian or gardener (class)

north asians. west asia's asia minor all the way to levant

>>2415155
<cultural genocide
>C'mon
There is a case for it excluded due to how genocide is defined by the Genocide Convention, which excludes cultural genocide. Cuba's Alfred de Zayas explained here:
https://mronline.org/2022/11/22/self-determination-referenda-and-the-rights-of-minorities/

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hope this helps you out

>>2415180
>asiatic invaders
gardener logic. the last thing europe needs as it struggles with Russia, USA, China, etc. is European nationalism

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>>2415239
Well, if I were to be serious I'd say Europe is North Africa-West Asia
NAWA
Because in reality it is all one landmass

>>2415240
>European nationalism
europeans are not a nation

>>2415242
yes and no, there are geographic bareers and waterway patterns that hinder exchanges of ideas, trade and peoples which makes differentiating between continents and people living in them possible


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>>2415205
his shit-eating grin at the end is the best

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copium ropcke admitting under a bunch of cope that Russia is winning the war.

>>2415268
its funny how natocels always say this as if they can send the 100,000,000% grift markups that make up the majority of their defense budgets to war lmao

>>2415268
Jules No!
That's an anime meme, you are embarrassing yourself

Even I am embarrassed for him and I hate him

>>2415268
>autocracies cannot win, they are inefficient and outdated
to
>democracies cannot be defeated, they can only defeat themselves
gardener hubris never changed. this is what sitting at the top of the capitalist world does to you

>>2414881
>>2414878
Can mods just start banning these annoying faggots?

>>2415479
its the same guy

>>2415182
um, the trump admin is financing the war in ukraine

>>2415196
>what's your point of contention in relation to muscovites racially, civilisationally and culturally being asian

What is that even supposed to mean

>>2415201
Inshallah

>>2415259
I was expecting a nafo garbage heap in the comments and was pleasantly surprised.

Imo though Ukraine will cease to exist after this conflict. There can be nothing left over for reactionary westoids to try and reconquer at some later date. Ukrainian nationalism will be ripped out root and stem.

>>2414628
Russians are advancing too slow for a front line collapse is what I am gathering.

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this whole article says that the sole use of caltrops is what it's causing this 66 to 1 casualties rates.
yes.
caltrops.

>Key to Ukraine’s remarkable defensive success here is the innovative revival of ancient Roman warfare tactics, particularly the widespread use of caltrops. Historically, Roman soldiers employed caltrops, metal devices designed with spikes positioned in all directions, as highly effective area-denial tools. Placed on roads, fields, or forest pathways, caltrops punctured enemy horses’ hooves, forced troops into open, vulnerable spaces, and slowed advancing units significantly, enabling Roman forces to saturate their exposed enemies with projectiles.


>Now, the Ukrainian 63rd Brigade applies this ancient tactic using drones to disperse modern versions of caltrops across Russian assault paths. Unlike traditional mines, caltrops are inexpensive, safe to deploy remotely, and difficult to detect through drone surveillance.



of course, that piece of crap is quoting direct Kiev's propaganda

I love the only facebook reply in the post:
ONLY 66?

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Always, always, see these flags:
🇺🇦
🇮🇱
and expect some of the most un-hinged, irrational, out of touch and ridiculous thing you can read.

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>>2415895
Reminder that this fed said he would spend 24/7 in Nazi telegrams so he could spam /leftypol/ with gore of Red Army soldiers

>>2415919
>Everyone I don't like is a glowie

>>2415943
It's a compliment, otherwise you're doing it for free because you're butthurt

>>2415598
do leftypol nafos even use "donbawuenans" sounds to me like a koper

>>2414878
Ukraine was on offensive in late 2022 and in 2023.

Where are the corpses, oh so logical NAFOid? At best, Ukraine has achieved 1 to 1 exchange rates

almost (or maybe more or less) half a year into his presidency and he hasnt done anything positive. how to people defend him still? orange faggot almost took away my fuckin grants

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>>2415979
>how to people defend him still?
his approval is plummeting, especially along the cross-generational lines that show empire vulnerability over time

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With Zelensky (or his successor waiting in the wings) potentially ridding himself of the olds, (or other dregs of society, old people are objectively largely unproductive so this may be a desperate attempt to solve two problems at once, as it were) it got me thinking about old europe. Try to avoid that if you have a personal stake in it. It is not getting better from here. Now, if your loyalties lie with the oppressed peoples of the world, it still is objectively a positive development.
There are of course rumblings about the pension age and so on. If you are a relatively young person do not expect to get a pension, like ever. I think this compounds their problem in the way that young people feel the "social contract" is no longer in effect or being observed. Why give a shit if you are gonna get fucked and you know beyond a shadow of a doubt you will get fucked (indefinitely)? Weakness engenders more weakness.
Fun times ahead. I do not believe in any cyclical movement but hard times meet weak populace (or rather unmotivated and so on, which is objectively understandable, you can work your 50+ hour week and still just get boned, these are simply developments which are so far beyond you, it won't be fixed by rolling up your sleeves): Kaboom
>>2415979
Now that I learned this just this moment, it is practically his biggest failing. He should take your money, labor aristo.
I will always defend the cannibalization of the west even while I am living it. Just the kinda guy I am.
They say the fall of empires is terrible but it is a beautiful thing.
Of course fundamentally there is always the possibility of good things happening (revolution and so on) but I leave it out here somewhat deliberately, I just do not have faith in the fat and complacent gardener.

>>2415811
666
Don't you see?
Ronald Wilson Reagan
Wake up crakkkaz (woopsie doopsie I didn't wanna use that word no more)

There is no room for shame in propaganda. However the Ukraine was ends up, it'll be a glorious, hard fought *underdog* victory against an exterminationist opponent. This goes for both sides btw.

>Ukrainian authorities are reportedly now ordering the evacuation of Kherson City.

>Russian forces have taken the "Antonov" bridge over the Dneiper and are striking bridges in the city to prevent the withdrawal of Ukrainian Forces.


>Kherson


Holy fuk. we already saw the meager gains of the 2023 counteroffensyiv reversed. are we now going to get to see the much bigger 2022 gains reversed?

>>2416018
>Collapse of the Soviet Union
>everything tanks for the burger reich

>>2416147
Capitalists were able to go mask off after the USSR was gone.

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>>2416139
Well, I can't say anything about now, not even an educated guess, I do not follow the day-to-day.
But eventually, yes.
All things will be righted. We see a clear trajectory, medium to long-term
God's in his heaven, all's right with the world.
The red sun rises in the east.
The west will experience decline, cannibalization, brazilianization, balkanization possibly as well, sooner rather than later.

>>2416139
Maybe in a few years.

>>2416151
Where will be the good parts in Europe to immigrate to? If I am to wait for the revolution that will never come it's over

>>2416206
I dunno, Rio?
Depends on your taste, language, means (marketable skills, wealth/savings) of course etc.

Remember Gunther Fehlinger?

>>2416226
>remember
Reluctantly
But nice to know he's totally doing it for free.
At least a modicum of justice may exist sometimes in the world.

>>2416018
This just proves that accelerationists are retarded. Less than 15% of the country's youth are married and property owners and Trump still wins elections? Retarded country and retarded people.

>>2416226
Did he get fired for posting some pro-Palestine shit? I vaguely remember something along those lines or were those tweets fake?

>>2416226
you couldn't pay me to hate this guy, i want him to be my father

>>2415943
Then for what purpose did you post a unrelated very likely staged pro-ukrop video lmao?

>>2416277
I didn't but ziggers like you will always assume whatever they want.

>>2416226
Somehow this guy is the only likable person in the NATOcel sphere and I can’t explain it

>>2416292
Ok but if you’re not that guy you can at least acknowledge how retarded he is for saying that the Soviet Union fighting Nazi Germany was an inter-imperialist war

This is an interimperialist conflict though

ICP says this is an interimperialist conflict. What are they, retards?

>muh ziggers
>muh glowies
Materialist explanation for why ukrainians and russians didnt rape their government yet?

>>2416327
Well I'd simply say they are inconsequential and what little I've heard from them disconnected to the point of autism
but if you ask so directly, yes.
They absolutely are.

>>2416327
insane clown posse would say that

This thread got active suddently. What happened?

>>2416332
Absolute state of communism. What does russian communist party say?

>>2416336
Don't know in detail but from what I've heard "Harden your heart, Vova"
Then there is of course several of those like in any country (or dozens, or possibly hundreds even).

>muh k/d
Why is it important?

>>2416327
They aren't nationalists

>>2416321
It’s funny how they will never answer this lol

>>2416336
Russian communists wanted to invade immediately after 2014. Cucktin said no let's sit around and make peace with Merkel and friends.

>>2416357
there are no russian communists

>>2416327
>ICP says this is an interimperialist conflict. What are they, retards?
nobody cares what left coms think of international issues
ironically the one point of superiority they're supposed to have over orthodox leftists they fail at

so steve wiltcoff is going to moscow for us-russia peace talks tomorrow. i have a pretty good feeling about this one. anyone else think they will wrap this war up in a week or two?

>>2416362
Trump is already cucking? Ultra retards winning the fell for it again award?

>>2416362
He also approached Hamas and Iran to no avail
He's going wherever Trump stirs up trouble to offer useless dialogue

Hmm I am curious about Russian and Ukrainian casualties so today I will go to look up documented deaths in Russian and Ukrainian graveyards and–
>UMM SORRY DID YOU LOOK UP THE CORPSE EXCHANGE RATES INSTEAD THAT IS THE ONLY METRIC BY WHICH CASUALTIES CAN BE MEASURED BECAUSE SOME WESTOID ON SUBSTACK SAID SO
Yes that is another data point we can use and–
>NO THAT IS THE ONLY DATA POINT AND RUSSIA IS WINNING WITH A 1:40 CASUALTY RATIO BECAUSE I SAID SO
Hmm it seems like a rather lackluster way to determine overall casualties and–
>YOU FUCKING HOHOLCUCK ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE RUSSIA LOOSE???????

>>2416371
the zigger's NEED for Ukrainian casualties to be 100000000000000000000000000000000000 trillion bajillion outweighs his common sense.

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>>2416373
i swear it's a holdover from a need to redeem the Red Army taking massive casualties in 1941-43. the idea that an army can learn to fight much better instead of just being a juggernaut that never changes and is always winning doesn't even occur to anons who are supposed to be steeped in historical materialism, and now the same disrespect they have for Red Army troops who had to suffer under a fascist invasion are placed on Russian assault troopers tasked with a totally unenviable job of taking fortified Ukrainian positions, and even their suffering and deaths are denied by these anons to make themselves feel better.

it just makes no sense to me. if you really followed this war and wanted Russia to win then you would respect the average Russian soldier and at least try to understand the absolute hell they have to go through. but no, there's almost none of that and just a nonchalance about how easy the war is going and how it's just a small advance to "save" lives when every advance for either side is a bloody, miserable slog.

>>2416374
Me on the bottom btw

>>2416375
This is extremely disingenuous coming from you lol

Thesis: Russia has taken 10 trillion casualties
Anti-Thesis: Ukraine has taken 10 trillion casualties
Synthesis: Neither side has taken insurmountable casualties and judging by the front which has barely moved in 3+ years it seems more likely to be close to 50/50 and anyone insisting otherwise and that their opponent is dying 10x more than their enemy is working for either the Russia or Ukrainian government.

>>2416375
>>2416373
>>2416371
Kiev is Russian. “Ukraine” is a Nazi fiction made to justify colonization and genocide. Ziolensky is a dictator who outlawed communism and the Russian language. Cope harder

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>>2416226
lel effortless USAID/NED income is no more, now he's shitposting from mom's basement

>unemployed

> demands flat tax for rich fucks
There is no salvation for this brainwashed dipshit, he'd preach neoliberal talking points and cuck to the bourgeoisie while being homeless. SAD!

>>2416387
I know you pray every night that that's what Ukraine becomes but unfortunately for you your government is shit, your leadership is retarded, your central bank is run by a double agent, and your generals are getting killed on a regular basis so how about you win the war first before posting that otherwise it's just coping.

>>2415972
because you know, you have to be racist if on 2025 you still support a banderite regime.

>>2416226
I think it's great that the mentally challenged can be part of high society too!

>>2416373
>>2416371
Samefagging is bannable, right? Also the claim of one sided k/d ratios comes from the Ukrops lel, the truth is that it probably roughly equal (over the years it has propably averaged out) and even russian telegram is more honest about this. Thing is, the Ukrops published their death toll recently and it was so low that even western mainstream news sites were seeing it as a political stunt since the Russians have stopped publishing their own. Ukrops are basically undergoing mass psychosis, if you asked them why they haven't push back the Orcs if their k/d is so much in their favor they will accuse you of being a russian. There is no logic to it.

>>2416139
not yet, but probably soon.

>>2415598
i'm asking what's not-asian about russians

>>2416389
>Immediately accuses someone of being russian
Yup thats the nafoid alright lmao

>>2416226
imagine being such a huge cuck of the militaristic ideology and still find yourself living at your mom's basement.
he'd be happy to sit-tied naked on the tip of cruise missile if that's a missile named fuck Putin.
>Remember Gunther Fehlinger?
of course, he's at the level of david d or warmonitor.

>>2416432
>Caring about ethnicity
Mods should do their jobs for once and purge some anons, starting with this thread

>>2416442
>YAY! we're getting rid of ethnic slur
>the one that you're supposedly defending from themselves while being foreign?
>we're not foreign!
>what about you is not foreign?
>how DARE you care about ethnicity!

>>2416422
>Also the claim of one sided k/d ratios comes from the Ukrops lel, the truth is that it probably roughly equal (over the years it has propably averaged out) and even russian telegram is more honest about this
not samefagging at all and i agree with this, the casualty ratios are probably pretty close. but both the NAFOids and hardcore ziggas refuse to believe that could be the case. it's like telling a German in 1916 that nope, the fighting at Verdun isn't bleeding the French white and that the casualty ratios are pretty close. their heads would've fucking exploded after reading Kaiserslop of how each German soldier was killing 50 frogs everyday

>>2416432
Culturally they are more European in general. Obviously the far Eastern parts of the country are more Asian ethnically and culturally but in general the more populated part of the country is the west.

>>2416459
they're not, they're asiatic; here's prime example - social contract:
europeans have demands for their country and accept the fact that the country has demands for them. therefor if unhappy they will go out and protest as it's expected of them to do their part.
russian social contract is akin to - country leaves me alone i let government do whatever it wants
you can check last thread how russians genuinely thought ukraine is going to fall apart because ukrs went out protesting dismantling anti-corruption (successfully btw)
they periodically gloat that as long as there isn't a mobilisation (meaning things don't affect them personally) everything is fine even itt

>>2416362

it'll be nothing, tbh. trump obtained what he wanted, submission of the US allies to him, and not to the democrats.

>Russian intelligence: London is planning a massive act of sabotage and then declaring Russian oil shipments a "threat to all international shipping."
It reminds me when Russians said in 2006 that hillary was going to use "Russian collusion" to first picrel, and then years later comes in second picrel to feign dementia, when the Russiagate hoax started.

it's a shame they didn't stop the bong sabotage outside anapa

>>2416465
stfu, you racist radlib. go neck yourself with your orientalism "muh Asiatic shepherded herd". Russians since 2014 saw how the banderites were doing what they were doing. As if Europeans went out to protest their policymakers that decided to take expensive US oil over cheap Russian oil, now causing thousands of industrial job cuts, massive energy deficit, in a continent with fucking snowy winters.
>you can check last thread how russians genuinely thought ukraine is going to fall apart
no one actually said this
there's no "ukrainian government" it's a proxy, and the proxy doesn't fall apart whether zelya is gone or not.
>ukrs went out protesting dismantling anti-corruption
UKRS lmao, not nato NGOs that need that money to live and not be forcefully mobilized.
>they periodically gloat that as long as there isn't a mobilisation
t. least salty nafo because of the thousands of videos of mobilized ukrainians.

>>2416318
>Somehow this guy is the only likable person in the NATOcel sphere and I can’t explain it
While the average outspoken NATOid feels like barely restrained fascists. Gunther feels more like Milhouse Van Houten tagged-along the wrong crowd, obliviously chasing validation from terrible people. Horrid implications of his crowd's ideas aside, he remains an unambitious low level toadie, happy to be there.Nobody can look at this man and fail to see the hustle.

Heckling Gunther feels like heckling a street performer who bizarrely chose to do the "Living statue" of a famous Nazi.

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>>2416496
> expensive US oil over cheap Russian oil
here a comparison of oil prices in the year of our lord 2014: cheap russian brent on right, expensive american wti on left

oh sorry we're supposed to talk current prices
so as of now:
cheap russian brent 69.30 usd per barrel
expensive american wti 67.22 usd per barrel

>>2416581
>>2416599
Look at a map my uygha

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>>2416599
>>2416581
you are gigantic moron, stfu.

nafo bots will tell you straightforwardly to your face that le asiatic horde is a cucked nation because they didn't revolt in Russia, while saying that Europe is the beacon of revolt and rebellion.
there's literally a wikipedia page that accounts of the economic crisis in Germany in which no German went protesting at large for the problem they created ("muh we are not involved in Ukraine", "anyway, here's a 100billion check to zelya") and somehow they want to look smart saying all of that above.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_economic_crisis_(2022%E2%80%93present)

>>2416338
Because they're desperate to find a metric in which Ukraine is winning. If the k/d is too high in Russian favor then it means Ukrainian collapse is indeed happening in which case all the zigger and cucktin posters will be forced to kill themselves.

>>2416455
The problem is all the material facts point against this idea.

>>2416371
>today I will go to look up documented deaths in Russian and Ukrainian graveyards
The thread did this, actually before sharing corpse exchange numbers

>>2416465
>they're not, they're asiatic; here's prime example - social contract
The EU and centrist parties are divorced from their populations. Europeans are the slave masses now kek

>>2416455
>the casualty ratios are probably pretty close. but both the NAFOids and hardcore ziggas refuse to believe that could be the case.
it just doesn't make sense when rus outguns ukr between 5:1 and 15:1 depending on the front

>>2417078
other things to consider are "defenders advantage", ukr having much longer supply lines and worse medical, the 2 million army ukr started with that was completely rolled over and replaced, the precision of himars vs quantity, injured getting counted 3-4-5 times after redeploy, donbass volunteers and wagner not always being counted

still comes out 3:1 in russia favor, minimum

>>2416465
Kek, literally Kraut tier, libs never cease to amaze me

>>2416581
Yurops economy is on standstill since the sanctions you moron, they pay premium for what is essentially russian gas going through third countries like India.

>>2417078
Guns stopped being relevant 2 years ago

>>2417078
>it just doesn't make sense when rus outguns ukr between 5:1 and 15:1 depending on the front
RUSI reported some fronts have 25% the manpower they should, you wonder the average.

>>2416226
yeah it kinda weird how I can't really hate him

Pro-Ukrainian spectators will buy claims of a 14:1 ratio in favour of Ukraine at face value because they’ve already psychologically prepared themselves for Ukraine’s defeat and the unavoidable revelation that Ukrainians were just being used as cannon fodder by NATO, literally to the last Ukrainian possible.


Because then all of their support for the exploitation of Ukrainians is something that they’re also victims of because they were lied to, of course they wouldn’t have so brazenly told ziggers to cope and seethe if they’d not been LIED to by Kiev and western intel agencies the entire time and being told that ackshually Ukraine is committing near genocidal rates of death for the Russian military.

>>2417801
>Kiev

Until you get it, its Kyiv pal, sorry not sorry.

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