Political implications of more Americans converting to Catholicism?
The American right was heavily associated with Evangelical idpol for the past 50 years. They became the cultural backbone of the GOP from the 80s to the late 2000s. Now it appears like a huge number of former Evangelicals are converting to Catholicism. I even know some ex-Mormons who are Catholic now.
At the same time, it seems like leftists are embracing Catholicism too. Remember when everyone was convinced Pope Francis was a secret socialist? Jacobin mag goes out of their way with appealing to Catholics as well (every other article of theirs is something along the lines of: “Move over pink-haired bipolar feminist queers, here’s why the Catholic Church are the REAL socialists!”). People like Dorothy Day are propped up even though her actual contributions to the American left were minimal and symbolic at best (the Catholic Worker also referred to the priests killed by /ourguys/ in Catalonia as “martyrs” which is disgusting). Not to mention, the Jacobin crowd seems very big on appealing to right-wing Catholic sentiments like complaining about birthrates being too low and proposing Bernie-style policies like universal healthcare to “fix” it, as if low birthrates are a problem to begin with.
But anyway, if Catholicism becomes a major cultural force in America in the next few years how do you see it affecting the political landscape?
268 posts and 40 image replies omitted.>>2409326Is not raising anywhere, in fact is a completely dead religion that be divided between two groups:
1. Boomers who never go to church never read the bible and generally don't give a fuck but just claim to be catholic out of a tradition
2. Terminally online right-wing male zoomers who are actually atheist and just claim to be catholic because muh evropa, muh gothic buildings, muh race and tradition and to generally hate on Muslims, LGBTs and other minorities, is literally all politics to these keyboard crusaders
So cucktholicism is literally a census religion or right-wing idpol depending on who claims it
In contrast evangelicals truly believe in their religion even if it's used for politics
>>2447828It's one thing to say "Israel is committing genocide."
It's a whole other thing to propagate old school antisemitic tropes because you're angry at Israel.
>>2446045Dawkins isn’t abandoning his nasty brand of atheism. It’s just Christian exceptionalism again. “We don’t believe it, but it makes us better than everyone else.”
>>2447807Habermas is another one. See his letter on Gaza. I think Charles Taylor has unwittingly contributed to this sentiment too although he’s not a Christian chauvinist but try to build bridges between secular humanists and Christians.
>>2447496>The problem with co-opting faith for political reasons is it creates those who 'suppose religion to be a means of gain'This is one of the flaws of liberation theology. It more or less opens the door for religion to become a political tool. If you look at Jacobin’s recent articles on religion you will see two disturbing trends:
1. Christianity is unique because it and only it could lay the groundwork for secular socialism, unlike other religions.
2. The left should use religion as a tool the way the far right does. In other words, secular nonbelievers should manipulate the masses with religion. So what we have here is secularists putting religion under their own control and a dishonest paternalistic attitude to the masses.
>>2458927Jacobin will use Catholicism to manipulate Catholics into voting for Berniecrats the same way the GOP used Evangelical Christianity to manipulate Evangeicals into voting for Neocons.
Rinse and repeat.
>>2464020Maybe because Russians speaking English and going on Western social medias will be liberals? Same for Iran or all of the 3rd world, there always traitors who will betray everything to be a part of the Western World.
Putin, even if he is a massive cuck, never have been so popular in Russia
>>2465481White Nationalism/American Civil Religion is a branch of Christianity, and in particular Calvinist replacement theology. Read Eric Weed's "The Religion of White Supremacy in the United States."
White Nationalists really are religious and really are a kind of Christian, their branch of Christianity is American Civil Religion. It's not so different from Hinduism as a kind of religious racial-caste system. Yes, a progressive and secular American Civil Religion is as laughable as a progressive and secular Catholics, the best we can probably do is to cautiously tolerate it.
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