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Recent news:
STG sets up roadblocks on the roads leading to Suwayda, pursuant to the ceasefire agreement.
Remaining tribals in Suwayda governorate launch a last-ditch attack on Suwayda city.
Tribals enter some of the city's northwest areas. They suffer heavy casualties and retreat from the city on the same day.
Straggler tribals launch a few attacks on Druze villages here and there, nothing significant.
Overall ceasefire holds up after that. STG prevents further entry of tribals and their numbers keep dwindling.
STG releases their report on the massacres of Alawites in March of this year. They say that they aren't directly responsible.
Saudi announces they will buy a bunch of property in Syria.
Israeli and Syrian officials meet in Paris. A second meeting in Baku was cancelled.
Accusations that the STG is doing a soft siege on Suwayda governorate and worsening the humanitarian situation.
Turkey/SNA starts threatening the SDF and launches a few attacks against them in Deir Hafer and Tishreen dam.

Links:
t.me/Medmannews - Well known channel (Egyptian owner). Posts frequently about MENA
t.me/Middle_East_Spectator - Iranian owner
t.me/Suriyak_maps - Posts maps/latest news. Less prone to hype/hysteria but slower.
https://nitter.poast.org/SAMSyria0 - Local Syrian army soldier. Used to post in Arabic. (Account deleted. RIP)
https://nitter.poast.org/WarMonitors
https://nitter.poast.org/bosni94
https://nitter.poast.org/Sy_intelligence
https://nitter.poast.org/sayed_ridha
https://syria.liveuamap.com
228 posts and 118 image replies omitted.

I remember the mfs who thought Rojava was gonna fall in days after Dr. Assad fled to Russia. Where is that sandinista retard? 😂

>>2511858
as much as I dislike the rabid anti kurds retards, posting this these days is at least as retarded, rojava is definitely not secured and on very shaky grounds

>Syria TV: SDF expresses its readiness to hand over oil production in Deir Ezzor fields to the Syrian government. The understandings regarding Deir Ezzor oil came during the meeting of President Ahmed al-Sharaa and SDF commander Mazloum Abdi in Damascus last week. The understandings between the two parties took place verbally and stipulated the handover of Deir Ezzor oil to the Syrian government, with the SDF retaining a percentage of production for the market. The process of integrating the regions of northeastern Syria will begin from Deir Ezzor and include oil fields, civil institutions, and military and security forces as a first stage

https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2025/11-october-09-syria-tv-sdf-expresses-its-readiness-to-hand

I hope everything works out with a minimum of bloodshed.

SDF signals imminent integration into Syrian army after ‘positive talks’ with Damascus

>The commander of the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) said, while addressing the group's fighters, that the Kurdish militia’s integration into Syria’s new military will take place “soon,” confirming positive negotiations with Damascus in the aftermath of the recent flare-up between the two sides.


>“The SDF will become a strong part of the new Syrian army. In the coming days, we, as the SDF command, will dispatch a delegation to the Syrian defense ministry in Damascus in order to implement the March 10 agreement. The process of SDF’s integration into the Syrian army will begin,” Abdi said.


>“In the new Syria, in addition to the SDF’s integration into the Syrian new army, our anti-terrorism forces (YAT) will also play a new role. Their work will not be limited to northeast Syria, but will be nationwide. They will work alongside other units of the Syrian army. We believe that the experience the YAT has gained in the past 11 years of fighting against terrorism will play a leading role in the new process in the fight against terrorism, ISIS, across Syria, rather than only in northeast Syria,” the SDF commander added.


>“Syria is going through a new situation. A new Syria is being established following the collapse of the Baath regime. A new army is being established in Syria. We, as a principal force that played a significant role in protecting Syria, the war on terror, and protecting our people, will also take part in the process of the establishment of a new Syrian army,” he went on to say, stressing that the SDF will play a “key role.”


>Abdi said in a separate interview with Ronahi TV that talks were “positive,” but clarified that not all issues have been resolved. “We started a dialogue and will continue talking.”


>He also said Syrian President and former Al-Qaeda chief Ahmad al-Sharaa was “more open” about the integration, adding that both sides agree on a “decentralized Syria.”


>Abdi asserted that foreign powers should not directly interfere in this process but acknowledged that “Turkiye could play a positive role” in reaching a solution, stressing that a settlement in Syria “is difficult without Turkiye’s involvement.”


>There have been months of tension between the SDF and the Syrian government over a deal signed in March calling for the US-backed Kurdish group’s integration into Damascus’s forces.


>The two sides disagree about the deal’s implementation, particularly the SDF’s wish to remain under Kurdish command and enter the army as a bloc rather than dissolve and conscript.


>Turkiye’s proxy, the Syrian National Army (SNA) coalition, was incorporated into Syria’s military after the fall of former Syrian president Bashar al-Assad’s government last year. These Turkish-backed, ISIS-linked forces have been at odds with the SDF for years and are responsible for war crimes against Kurdish civilians in northern Syria.


>The SDF is predominantly composed of the People’s Protection Units (YPG). The YPG is the Syrian branch of Turkiye’s enemy, the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK).


>The group is also known to consist of female fighters. It is unclear how well this will sit with the extremist forces making up the Syrian army.


>The Turkish army, which occupies Syria and has operated against the SDF in the past, may be gearing up for a new campaign, Sharaa said last month.


>Turkiye “may act militarily if full integration is not achieved by December,” Sharaa warned.


>In late May, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan warned the SDF to “quit stalling” and integrate with the Syrian army.


>Turkiye is currently training Syria’s new extremist-dominated military.


>Heavy fighting broke out between the SDF and the Syrian army near Aleppo earlier this month. A ceasefire was quickly reached, however, skirmishes have continued.


>The US-backed SDF is not represented in Syria’s government. It is part of a Kurdish-led, de-facto ‘autonomous’ administration in the country’s north and east.


>The National reported on 17 August that Damascus is assembling a force of 50,000 to capture Deir Ezzor and Raqqa from the SDF.


https://thecradle.co/articles/sdf-signals-imminent-integration-into-syrian-army-after-positive-talks-with-damascus

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>>2519678
>>2518258
Thanks anon(s). I think the Deir-Ez decision is a very smart one, it is the weakest link for the SDF in terms of damascus support, will hopefully reduce tensions and buy time.
>“In the new Syria, in addition to the SDF’s integration into the Syrian new army, our anti-terrorism forces (YAT) will also play a new role. Their work will not be limited to northeast Syria, but will be nationwide.
Some based YAT autist has the opportunity to do the funniest thing (follow this directive to the letter).

>>2519678
Bo was right

>>2511069
They brought forth the blackest wave of reaction upon themselves when they destroyed the last socialist state in the middle east.

>>2414118
Inter-islamic conflict.

>>2519800
Syria was as socialist as Denmark or Norway.

>>2519803
Wrong. Socialist Syria was not capitalist or imperialist. Thats why the foolish american puppets destroyed Socialist Syria.

>>2519800
>>2519804
Not every thread has to be your 'ebin shitpost threads'. please fuck off somewhere else.

>>2518258
>Mazloum Abdi: Withdrawal of SDF forces from the oil-rich region of Deir ez-Zor and Raqqa is not up for discussion

>>2518302
With the fall of Socialist Syria, capitalism has reasserted itself by violent, highly protracted struggle. Gay nazi, despite the past decades, do you really believe this transition backwards to capitalism can "work out with minimum bloodshed," or are you just sending thoughts and prayers to the damned tools of the cia

>>2520221
lets be serious, arab nationalist werent very socialist, and in syria especially wasnt toward the end

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>>2520221
>Gay nazi, despite the past decades, do you really believe this transition backwards to capitalism can "work out with minimum bloodshed," or are you just sending thoughts and prayers to the damned tools of the cia
I dunno, man. Assad is a gamer in Moscow now. What can you do.

It's like any revolution. If the situation is ripe, it will happen sooner or later. The only question is whether a particular way of solving the problems is the only possible one or not, or if there's a way to do the transition will less blood and fewer losses.

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Monke bros…

>>2520800
Syria was counter-revolution, not revolution. You are a cia agent

I found this from RT Arabic about assad extradition request to syria. This is Russian state media take

https://arabic.rt.com/press/1720889-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B4%D8%B1%D8%B9-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%83%D8%B1%D9%85%D9%84%D9%8A%D9%86-%D9%87%D9%84-%D8%AA%D8%B3%D9%84%D9%85-%D9%85%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%83%D9%88-%D8%A8%D8%B4%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%B3%D8%AF-%D8%A5%D9%84%D9%89-%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%B4%D9%82/



Publication date:
15.10.2025 | 09:21 GMT

Sharia in the Kremlin: Will Moscow hand Bashar al-Assad over to Damascus? / RT
Syrian President Ahmad al-Shara did not wait for a new date for the postponed Russia-Arab League summit, which was scheduled for the 15th of this month. Instead, he decided to meet with his Russian counterpart in Moscow amid mixed expectations regarding the agenda for the one-day visit, which will last behind closed doors.

Al-Sharaa had spoken to an American channel on the eve of the visit about Damascus' demand to hand over deposed President Bashar al-Assad, who resides with his family and a large number of his entourage in Moscow's most upscale neighborhood (Moscow City). He occupies several luxury apartments that he purchased over the years prior to his escape, transporting suitcases laden with the Syrian people's money. These funds have arrived on private or regular flights to Moscow since 2014, where they are employed by a network of commercial agents and brokers, who invest them in real estate and purchase assets for major private banks.

Bashar and his uncle, Mohammed Makhlouf, conspired to plunder and smuggle Syrian funds to three destinations: Russia, Belarus, and Romania. A large number of brokers were involved in the transfer and disbursement of these funds. This author has testimonies from individuals who were part of the inner circle responsible for handling the affairs of the Assad and Makhlouf families, but they refuse to make public statements for fear of retaliation from the gang, which still wields considerable influence despite no longer being in power.

In the same vein, agents smuggled gold bars and ingots, stamped with the Syrian Central Bank's seal, into these bags. Some of these were then received at the Syrian embassy in Moscow under the guise of purchasing weapons and equipment for the Syrian Arab Army, without the knowledge or awareness of official Russian authorities.

In the first government-to-government contact between Moscow and Damascus after the fall of the Assad regime, and during a visit by a delegation headed by Deputy Foreign Minister and former Russian Presidential Envoy to the Middle East and Africa, Mikhail Bogdanov, on January 28 of this year, Sharaa demanded the extradition of Assad and his entourage implicated in crimes against Syrians for trial, as well as the return of looted assets.
The Russian diplomat responded that a fair trial was impossible under the exceptional circumstances facing Syria, which had only been in power for a few months, during which the contours of the new state were still unclear.

Claiming the funds requires documentation proving their return to the Syrian government treasury.
It is well known that the Assad-Makhlouf family did not deposit oil revenues into the state treasury, in addition to the illegal channels used by the regime of corruption and tyranny to plunder the Syrian people's wealth.

It's worth noting that Damascus investigative judge Tawfiq al-Ali issued an arrest warrant in absentia against Assad at the end of last September, paving the way for international prosecution of the case through Interpol. This means that Sharaa will be bringing criminal files, clearly prepared by the Syrian judiciary on the eve of the visit, to the negotiating table in the Kremlin with his Russian counterpart.

Sharaa's statements to the American CBS channel emphasize that his country will use available legal means to demand accountability for former regime leader Bashar al-Assad, without entering into a costly conflict with Russia. In previous statements, Sharaa has made no secret of his appreciation for Russia's neutral stance as armed factions advanced toward the Syrian capital and cities fell one after the other to a limited number of fighters, without any resistance or effective intervention from Russian air power or forces stationed at the Hmeimim airbase and other Russian military bases spread throughout areas previously under the Assad regime's control.

Sharaa acknowledges that had it not been for Russia's conciliatory stance, the cost of entering Damascus would have been exorbitant and bloody. Perhaps the future will reveal many more details about the ten days that shook Syria and toppled a corrupt and tyrannical regime.

The issue of handing over Assad and his entourage and recovering Syria's looted assets is unlikely to become the Achilles' heel in relations between Damascus, which feels the need for a Russian equivalent in its relationship with Washington, and Moscow, which will not relinquish its military and political presence in a country described as one of the most important keys to the region, if not the most important. It is unlikely that Russia will relinquish a promising partner for "Saleh, a murderous dictator who fled at night without even informing the leaders of his defeated army, and spends all his days in the tall glass tower "Moscow City" hanging from the high floors, addicted to playing computer games, while his brother Maher drinks alcohol and directs his henchmen to spread rumors and false news, sometimes about an Arab TV channel interviewing Bashar in which he talks about his imminent return to Syria," according to allegations by a German magazine.

The false news came on the eve of Syrian Foreign Minister Asaad al-Sheibani and Defense Minister Muharraf Abu Qasra's visit to Moscow in early August.

>>2523027
>>2523014
In this article Russia state media calls assad insanely corrupt and says how he stole a lot of money for years from syrian people. This is RT not some western outlet or even Saudi or something


>>2523014
Here are some snippets that stands out. Remember this is literally RT assad

>Bashar and his uncle, Mohammed Makhlouf, conspired to plunder and smuggle Syrian funds to three destinations: Russia, Belarus, and Romania. A large number of brokers were involved in the transfer and disbursement of these fund


> agents smuggled gold bars and ingots, stamped with the Syrian Central Bank's seal, into these bags. Some of these were then received at the Syrian embassy in Moscow under the guise of purchasing weapons and equipment for the Syrian Arab Army, without the knowledge or awareness of official Russian authorities.


>Sharaa acknowledges that had it not been for Russia's conciliatory stance, the cost of entering Damascus would have been exorbitant and bloody. Perhaps the future will reveal many more details about the ten days that shook Syria and toppled a corrupt and tyrannical regime.


>It is well known that the Assad-Makhlouf family did not deposit oil revenues into the state treasury, in addition to the illegal channels used by the regime of corruption and tyranny to plunder the Syrian people's wealth.


>The issue of handing over Assad and his entourage and recovering Syria's looted assets is unlikely to become the Achilles' heel in relations between Damascus, which feels the need for a Russian equivalent in its relationship with Washington, and Moscow, which will not relinquish its military and political presence in a country described as one of the most important keys to the region, if not the most important. It is unlikely that Russia will relinquish a promising partner for "Saleh, a murderous dictator who fled at night without even informing the leaders of his defeated army, and spends all his days in the tall glass tower "Moscow City" hanging from the high floors, addicted to playing computer games, while his brother Maher drinks alcohol and directs his henchmen to spread rumors and false news, sometimes about an Arab TV channel interviewing Bashar in which he talks about his imminent return to Syria," according to allegations by a German magazine.


>The false news came on the eve of Syrian Foreign Minister Asaad al-Sheibani and Defense Minister Muharraf Abu Qasra's visit to Moscow in early August.

>SDF Commander-In-Chief Mazloum Abdi announces they have reached an agreement with Damascus on integration.

Enjoy your new moderate beheaders. Wonder what excuses SDFkiddies will make next

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the whole shit pouring on Assad was just violent hatred for Alawites. God forbid a non-Sunni people live decently in the Middle East. Oh no. Not allowed.

Syria’s ticking time bomb

<Without some form of transitional justice to address sectarian violence, the country risks slipping back into chaos


https://responsiblestatecraft.org/minorities-in-syria/

General Mazloum Abdi: “A preliminary agreement has been reached with Damascus on a plan to integrate the force into the Syrian army as a single group.”
Key points:
>• Leaders and members of the SDF will receive important positions in the Ministry of Defense and the Army Command.
<• The experience the Syrian Democratic Forces gained during the fight against ISIS will contribute to strengthening the Syrian army.
>• The police in northeastern Syria will also be integrated into the national security services
<• There is some flexibility in the Turkish position regarding the Syrian Democratic Forces joining the Syrian army.
>• If we Syrians agree, Turkey will have no justification for intervention
<• The events in Suwayda and the Syrian coast contributed to delaying the implementation of the agreement with Damascus
https://apnews.com/article/syria-kurds-sdf-mazloum-abdi-army-merger-alsharaa-8de0ee121b7a475fbbc27cbe46784f32

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Sipan Hemo: Accelerating the integration process depends on the government's positions and steps
Sipan Hemo, a member of the General Command of the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) and a member of the military committee negotiating with the Damascus government, confirmed that the SDF is ready to join the new Syrian Army to be formed—but only if the integration is carried out on the basis of respect for the SDF’s identity, struggle, and sacrifices, and if the rights of all components of the Syrian people are preserved without exception. He emphasized that the next steps of the Damascus government will determine whether the integration process will accelerate, slow down, or even freeze.

In a lengthy interview with the SDF Media Center, Hemo provided a comprehensive overview of the SDF’s vision regarding the ongoing negotiations with the Damascus government, discussing the obstacles facing the integration process since the signing of the March 10, 2025, agreement. He stressed that the SDF will remain a unified national force defending all Syrians until a just, democratic system is achieved.

The text of the interview is as follows:

<The Launch of Dialogues with Damascus

On behalf of the Syrian Democratic Forces, I salute all components of northern and eastern Syria, and Syria in general. As you know, a series of meetings and dialogues have taken place between us and the Damascus government, and the term integration has been introduced into the negotiation framework since the March 10 agreement.

Since the founding of the Syrian Democratic Forces, we have struggled for a fundamental goal: building a democratic Syria based on participation and guaranteeing the rights of all components of the Syrian people without discrimination or exclusion. For this goal, our forces were founded and continue to adhere to it. They have fought fierce battles against the terrorist organization ISIS and all aggressors, making enormous sacrifices to achieve this goal.

<SDF: A Political and Social Project Before Being a Military Force

The Syrian Democratic Forces are not merely a military formation; rather, they are forces with a clear political and social vision. From the outset, they declared their struggle against marginalization, dictatorship, and injustice—and have continued that struggle steadfastly.

This struggle persisted until the fall of the Ba’athist regime, after which an interim government was formed, based on Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham. On March 10, 2025, an agreement was signed with Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham, and since then, we have engaged in direct dialogue to discuss ways to implement that agreement.

<Integration is Necessary to Build the New Syrian Army

We seek integration into the future Syrian army and believe that the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) form the foundation for building the new national army. In fact, a truly national Syrian army cannot be built without the participation of the SDF. In this context, we have declared our readiness to join the new army, and this remains our strategic goal.

In recent periods, our forces have been accused of obstructing or delaying the integration process. These allegations are completely untrue and unfounded.

On the contrary, we are eager to join the new army, but some parties are attempting to interpret the integration process through narrow visions that remain captive to the mentality of the former regime.

These parties seek to eliminate our forces or erase their political, social, and administrative identity—something we will absolutely not accept, as such attempts cannot be described as patriotic or aligned with legitimate national objectives.

We emphasize that the integration we seek must preserve the identity of the SDF and respect its struggle. We are not only referring to North and East Syria but to all Syrian components that should participate in building the new Syria: Sunnis, Druze, Christians, Kurds, and Alawites.

If the rights of even one component are not recognized, Syria will not yet have been freed from the injustice it has long suffered.

<Last Damascus Meeting: Positive Atmosphere Needs Results on the Ground

During the last meeting in Damascus, a positive atmosphere prevailed with our participation, along with that of the Ministry of Defense and several U.S. officials.

However, no tangible results were achieved, and the outcomes were limited to verbal promises and general statements of intent without clear, written agreements.

We emphasized the need to translate the positive atmosphere into practical steps on the ground.

<Obstacles to Trust and Reassurance

During the meeting, we discussed the mechanisms for integrating the Syrian Democratic Forces into the Syrian Army. We elaborated on the reasons and motivations behind the formation and struggle of the SDF, and we explicitly stated that the reasons that led to its formation still exist.

For the integration process to succeed, the root causes of the threats facing our people in northern and eastern Syria must be addressed.

In our view, the Interim Government remains unable to instill reassurance and security among the various components and has not taken serious steps to alleviate fears.

Recently, we have witnessed disastrous policies by the government and its forces, manifested in mass killings targeting Alawites and Druze, in addition to widespread security chaos across the country.

These practices pose a serious challenge to the SDF’s integration efforts and underscore the urgent need for our forces to continue protecting our people. Here, we ask: What positive, tangible steps has the Interim Government taken to support the integration process in light of these violations?

<The Sheikh Maqsoud Attack and New Concerns

At a time when we are discussing the integration of the SDF, the Sheikh Maqsoud neighborhood in Aleppo was subjected to a siege and attack—despite the March 10 agreement under which our forces withdrew from the area.

Nevertheless, factions affiliated with the Damascus government attacked the besieged neighborhood, attempting to replicate what happened in Sweida and on the coast, attacking the area from ten fronts.

Had it not been for the steadfastness and resistance of the residents—based on their previous experience between 2013 and 2016—the catastrophe would have been even greater.

These attacks raise many questions and concerns and completely contradict the propaganda suggesting that the situation is going well.

Therefore, positive rhetoric must be transformed into practical steps that inspire reassurance—not actions that generate tension and problems, as is currently the case.

<Exclusion from Decision-Making Institutions

We have repeatedly emphasized that the exclusion of Syrian communities—especially our people in northern and eastern Syria—from dialogue conferences, constitution drafting, lawmaking, and government formation represents a real problem for us.

The other side must realize that disregarding the will of Syrian communities will prevent the current government from being representative of all Syrians.

No government or army can be respected unless all communities participate in its construction.

Syria will not be a homeland for all without the participation of all, and we will not allow a repetition of the exclusionary policies that Syrians have suffered for decades.

<The presence of the SDF is essential for protecting Syria and its communities.

We emphasize that our presence within the Syrian Army is a prerequisite for overcoming the current crisis and protecting all communities.

However, this integration must be based on mutual respect and partnership—not on the vision of some parties in Damascus, who base their plans on exclusion and liquidation.

Therefore, dialogue will continue, and addressing our people’s concerns will remain the foundation of any action we take.

As long as the current government does not take real measures to reassure Syrian communities, the SDF will remain the force defending the existence, lives, and identity of our people against any threat.

<The Timeline of the Integration Process

We explained to officials in Damascus that accelerating the integration process depends on their positions and next steps regarding the rights of all communities and on opening the door to national partnership.

Their next steps will determine whether the integration process will accelerate, slow down, or even freeze.

We presented one clear example they could pursue to prepare the ground for the SDF’s integration—namely, the Afrin issue. We emphasized that the return of displaced Afrin residents, compensation for those affected, and holding accountable those responsible for violations are key indicators of the government’s seriousness in building a national army.

We told them that their position on Afrin will be the true benchmark for their stance on other issues in North and East Syria, and in Syria as a whole.

If you act justly toward Afrin, address the injustices, and pave the way for the return of the displaced, then the Interim Government can be viewed differently—not only regarding Afrin, but for all of Syria.

<SDF: A Unifying National Force

We have reiterated that the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) are a national Syrian force and the only force capable of communicating and coordinating with all Syrian components—Sunnis, Kurds, Druze, Alawites, Christians, and even the government in Damascus.

We are prepared to be the core of the new Syrian Army and a guarantee for correcting the country’s political and military course.

Through their struggle and policies, our forces have proven the success of their national project in preserving Syria’s geographic and social unity at a time when the country was torn apart by sectarianism and divisions.

This is why the SDF enjoys widespread respect among all Syrian components.

<A Message to the Components of North and East Syria

Since the founding of the People’s Protection Units (YPG), and later the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), we have sacrificed thousands of martyrs in defense of our people and in pursuit of building a shared homeland for all Syrians.

We have achieved great accomplishments and will continue to achieve further gains worthy of our people’s sacrifices.

Today, we live in safety and stability in our regions thanks to the SDF, while the rest of Syria suffers from chaos and daily killings.

Therefore, we must preserve what we have achieved and confront all conspiracies and challenges.

We hope that the security we are experiencing will spread throughout all regions of Syria—from Sweida to the coast, and from the interior to the north—based on tolerance, coexistence, and generosity.

Our people must trust their forces and fighters, knowing that they will not hesitate for a moment to defend them and will continue their struggle no matter how severe the challenges.

We call on everyone to be vigilant against the attempts of enemies seeking to undermine our cohesion and implement their destructive plans.

I especially mention the people of Deir ez-Zor and Raqqa, who must realize that the Syrian Democratic Forces, which sacrificed thousands of martyrs to liberate them from ISIS terrorism, will continue to defend them and represent them in Damascus in a manner befitting their sacrifices.

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>>2531181
Ziggers writing their apology letter to Al Qaeda rn

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>>2523027
Kingpins can’t be good people neither the CIA nor Assad. Hmm. Also, RT finally admits that not everyone who is anti–Western imperialism is a good person, since one mafia cartel is always the enemy of another in their struggle for profit and dominance.

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Minor notable happening.

STG forces have surrounded a camp belonging to an armed French foreign Islamist faction/miltia (that they were previously allied with) in Idlib countryside and have demanded their leader to surrender. He refused and now there's an ongoing siege and clashes in the camp.
According to the STG, the reason for why they want to arrest him is because he's accused of kidnapping a girl.

Hours later, Uzbek foreign Islamist fighters made a statement protesting the STG's conduct towards the French foreign fighters. They haven't yet started fighting the STG and they say they don't wish to, but they still want them to halt the siege and drop their pursuit of the French faction leader.

>>2532045 (samefag)
Update: STG has agreed to lift the siege and allow the matter to be settled in court. The captive girl (if there is one) is still in the foreign fighters' camp.

>>2531194
>Kingpins can’t be good people neither the CIA nor Assad. Hmm. Also, RT finally admits that not everyone who is anti–Western imperialism is a good person, since one mafia cartel is always the enemy of another in their struggle for profit and dominance.
That's true, but some of the people who stan for guys like Assad are attracted to such people because they're mobsters.

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>>2532045
not just any french jihadi, it's Omar Omson. They came to a truce though.
>>2535020
There are absolutely captive girls, although it was almost certainly only a pretext.
>>2535032
Alabama 3 was a weird choice. Exile on Coldharbour Lane is a banger album though.

>>2526031
I REALLY hope these talks will fail with the current islamist government.

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33rd anniversary of the women’s army celebrated in guerrilla areas
The 33rd anniversary of the founding of the women's army was celebrated by guerrillas. Speaking at the commemorations and events organized in the Behdînan region, YJA-Star Military Council Commander Peyman Amed said that they bowed with respect before all the martyrs of Kurdistan and the women’s army, in the person of Commander Bêrîtan.

Commander Amed explained that Bêrîtan’s action in 1992 against the dominant male collaborationist line and traitorous forces paved the way for women’s militarization, saying, “Bêrîtan’s stance became a beginning for women guerrillas; for 33 years we have been struggling along her path.”

Commander Peyman Amed said: "Today marks the anniversary of the martyrdom of the great commander Bêrîtan (Gülnaz Karataş). We commemorate all the martyrs of Kurdistan and the martyrs of the women’s army in her name. We bow before all the martyrs of Kurdistan through her and the great commander Bêrîtan.

Today is also the 33rd anniversary of the founding of the women’s army. On this occasion, we salute Leader Abdullah Öcalan, the architect of this day and of the women’s army and movement. We also honor all the women martyrs and martyrs of the Kurdistan Freedom Movement. We salute the women fighting on the frontlines, the revolutionary women, the women of Kurdistan, and all mothers."

<Bêrîtan set an example as the first commander of the women’s army

Commander Amed continued: "Comrade Bêrîtan, as both a person and a commander, became the symbol of the Apoist and revolutionary woman. Through her character, she became a model of leadership for her time. Thirty-three years ago, she waged a heroic and unparalleled struggle on the war fronts against betrayal and the occupation of Kurdistan. Through her action, she became the symbol of the free woman’s line — the embodiment of the Kurdish woman’s stance that never surrenders under any circumstances. As the first commander of the women’s army, Comrade Bêrîtan became a pioneer for Kurdish women and an example for women worldwide.

Leader Öcalan, in the person of Comrade Bêrîtan, announced the women’s militarization campaign 33 years ago, in this very month of 1993. The leadership responded to Bêrîtan’s struggle and her fight in this way. The women’s army has waged an unprecedented struggle along the free women’s line for 33 years against the occupation and domination of male power and state armies. Under the leadership and spirit of Comrade Bêrîtan, Kurdish women have demonstrated tremendous resistance to all forms of war for 33 years. The women’s militarization campaign was both a first and a turning point in the global struggle for women’s liberation.

For this reason, the women’s army became a source of inspiration and faith not only for Kurdish women but for women all over the world. It gave women courage, strength, and will. In the history of world women, this 33-year legacy has become one of great honor and heroism. The women’s army was a critique and a response to the patriarchal military mentality. With a free mindset and a woman’s spirit, Kurdish women built an army in their own color."

<We continue our struggle along Bêrîtan’s path

Commander Amed added: "Today, as YJA-Star, the continuation of the women’s army and its proud history, we continue our struggle along the path of the great commander Bêrîtan. The women’s army continues to be a force of defense for all women today. It maintains its role and mission. Until women’s freedom, the freedom of peoples, and the freedom of the Kurdish people are achieved, women will not abandon the struggle or self-defense.

As power over women developed, women first lost their self-defense, and through that, society lost its own defense. That is why, thousands of years later, women re-established defense institutions with their innate strength and colors in the field of war and the military. Today, we will continue our defensive role as an army.

In the past decade, many great commanders and self-sacrificing fighters have emerged. The techniques, wars, and attacks of the capitalist modernity system were thwarted by the professional guerrilla style of YJA-Star. The YJA-Star forces have once again powerfully fulfilled their role at the tactical and professional command level over the past decade."

Commander Amed ended her remarks by saying: "Our struggle will continue. We stand on our history and 33 years of experience, and as YJA-Star, we will fulfill any duty that falls upon our shoulders. We will do whatever is necessary for the success of this process. But we will also continue to defend, to defend women, the Leadership, the people, and mothers. Let both friend and foe know this well! We are ready to make every sacrifice and take every responsibility for the freedom of the Leadership, for the Kurdish people’s struggle, and for the victory of the women’s liberation struggle. On this basis, under the leadership of APO, we will continue our fight in this process. Once again, we bow with respect before the martyrs of the women’s army and Comrade Bêrîtan. We once more celebrate the anniversary of the founding of the women’s army in the name of Leader Öcalan, all martyrs, all women, and all comrades."

>>2535061
>although it was almost certainly only a pretext
Yeah there are now indications that the STG only did it because the French government told them to. They were completely fine with the foreign group for years as HTS.

>>2536253
I assumed as much. This has been a big story in france, one of the girls who were groomed by him had a brother who came and tried to rescue her and filmed it to make a documentary, there were a lot of articles all around it and Omar became the most well known french jihadi.

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Well, that's an interesting development:
<Jamal Maarouf , former leader of FSA group “Syrian Revolutionaries Front” Joins the SDF, to Lead New Corps Uniting Syrian Opposition Members
Also:
<Talal Selo sure make it seems to be hinting he intends to return to the SDF, or at the very least has cordial relations with them.
>https://x.com/TalalSelo2/status/1980959241646305706
He turned traitor a while ago, some people said the turks had his family.

>>2532045 (samefag)
Pretty comprehensive thread on this incident as it progressed:
https://xcancel.com/JnoubiSyrian/status/1980695951275880862

Statement from PKK:
"Considering the very serious threats related to the future of Turkey and the Kurds, posed by the conflicts and wars in the Middle East, and following the statements made by the President of Turkey, MHP Chairman Devlet Bahçeli, and Leader Abdullah Öcalan, a new process was started in Turkey. This process gained its own identity after Leader Abdullah Öcalan’s “Call for Peace and Democratic Society” on February 27, 2025. The process is now going through a very critical and important phase.

During the last 8 months, we, as the Kurdish side, have taken very historic steps within the framework of the "Call for Peace and Democratic Society”. In order to facilitate the creation of a peaceful and convenient context for due discussions, we declared, immediately after the Call, a unilateral ceasefire on March 1, 2025. Based on the directions of Leader Abdullah Öcalan, which he conveyed to us through proper channels, we convened the PKK’s 12th congress on 5-7 May, 2025, terminated the organizational structure of the PKK and its strategy of armed struggle. At the same time, we declared that these resolutions can only be put into practice via the direct management of Leader Abdullah Öcalan. Two months later, based on the video-call of Leader Abdullah Öcalan, the 30-person-strong “Group for Peace and Democratic Society”, led by the Co-Chair of KCK’s Executive Council, Besê Hozat, burned their weapons in a ceremony, thereby manifesting our clear and decisive attitude as to terminating the strategy of armed struggle.

These historic steps, taken by the Kurdish side and pioneered by Leader Abdullah Öcalan and the PKK, deeply influenced the social and political context in Turkey as they created a new spirit and resolve for peace and democratization. This courageous and self-sacrificing attitude of the Kurds for peace, democracy and freedom was widely appreciated within Turkey and abroad.

Despite all the negative and insufficient approaches towards our steps, Leader Abdullah Öcalan and the Kurdistan Freedom Movement are still working on taking new practical steps which would clear the way for taking the process of “Peace and Democratic Society” to its second phase. In doing so, they are aiming at eliminating the increasing threats against Turkey and the Kurds and laying the foundations for a free, democratic, and fraternal life for the coming centuries. Accordingly, the resolutions of PKK’s 12th Congress had foreseen and planned the withdrawal, to the Medya Defense Zones, of those guerrilla units whose presence within Turkey’s borders could escalate the risk of clashes and possible provocations. We are now putting these resolutions, also approved by Leader Abdullah Öcalan, into practice. A part of those guerrilla groups which have reached the Medya Defense Zones are now present here and are personally taking part in this declaration. Also, similar regulatory measures are being taken with regard to those positions along the border which could carry the risk of clashes and possible provocations.

No doubt, praxis will show the efficacy of these unilateral steps that we have been taking so far. However, the symbolic practical steps we have taken, once again, manifest the decisiveness and clear attitude of the PKK to implement the resolutions of its 12th Congress.

It is quite clear that we are committed to the resolutions of the 12th Congress and decisive in implementing them. However, for these resolutions to be implemented, certain legal and political approaches – in line with the resolutions of PKK’s 12the Congress and as necessities of the process – should be adopted. In this context, a Transitional Law, unique to the case of the PKK, should be made; also, the necessary laws for freedom and democratic integration that would enable participation in democratic politics should be enacted without any delay.

Finally, this call is for our peoples, particularly women and the youth: This is not a process of expecting something from somebody, rather it is a process of creating and winning a free and democratic life through organized struggle. So, anybody who identifies with this life, should mobilize and wage a struggle for the success of the process of “Peace and Democratic Society”.

The Manifesto for Peace and Democratic Society will surely prevail!

October 26, 2025

The Leadership of the Kurdistan Freedom Movement"

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Some "trust me bro" reporting + analysis from ISIS Rob

>>2547858
If it's just certain factions within their military, then yeah it'd be a bad idea to actually engage with them.
There's a good probability that these guys are gonna get purged like next week by Julani, which would then expose Iranian involvement with them which is bad PR for Iran and gives the pro-Western camp within the STG more excuses to consolidate their power. It's just a bad bet.

>>2547858
Iran has better luck funding militias to fuck with STG than ever be friends with them. Cucklani is visiting Trump anyways. This is FUD to make Syrianoids look better than what they really are

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Persistence in socialism
Socialist movements around the world, as well as individuals or circles concerned with this question, experienced the most intense diversity of views and debates on socialism in the nineteenth century. The nineteenth century is marked as the century in which the main theoretical framework of socialism began to be constructed.

Those who study socialism generally converge on one common point: they take the “Enlightenment Period,” when the concept of socialism began to develop theoretically, as their reference. At that time, the viewpoints that prioritized social problems were accepted as the main starting point. In this regard, the views of Jacques Rousseau hold an important place. It is also necessary to mention that Pierre Leroux, assumed to be the first to use the concept of socialism at the beginning of the nineteenth century, as well as Marie Roch Louis and Robert Owen, were among the followers of Henri de Saint Simon (1760–1825).

The Industrial Revolution and the rise of capitalist modernity intensified contradictions and conflicts, while thinkers of the time systematized their views on socialism and engaged in heated debates among themselves. As a result, a turning point emerged in the development of socialist thought, a new era, so to speak. Saint Simon, Robert Owen, and Charles Fourier began to be considered “Utopians” in this phase and were defined as “Utopian Socialists.” François-Noel Babeuf (1760–1797), who took a revolutionary stance against the Directory period during the 1789 French Revolution, was also included among those in this line. This did not stop there: those who developed views on socialism sought to systematize and conceptualize their ideas. Within this scope, those who embraced or sympathized with these views began to be referred to as followers. Intensifying social problems, class contradictions, and conflicts further expanded and spread these ideas. The fact that numerous ideas were defended in the name of socialism in the nineteenth century is itself evidence of this.

Proudhonian, Bakuninian, Blanquist, Lassallean, Bernsteinian, and Marxist interpretations and evaluations of socialism emerged and developed within such a historical process. By its nature, intense and relentless ideological struggle also occurred among these theoreticians and those who defended them. Arguments were developed and employed to refute one another’s ideas. Countless articles, brochures, and books were published on this subject. Many materials documenting the debates between Marx, Bakunin, and Proudhon have survived to the present day and still serve as the most important reference sources in ongoing debates. This can also be clearly seen in evaluations related to Lassalle and Bernstein.

<Efforts of Marx and Engels

In the circumstances of the nineteenth century, those who claimed to defend socialism also possessed the means to reach broad segments of society. In France, the Proudhonians, in Germany, the Lassalleans, and in England, the Fabian Associations experienced a more extensive quantitative development. Marxists, in comparison, advanced more slowly, yet followed a qualitatively deeper path. The impact of the 1848 Revolution, the organisational efforts that foresaw the unity of the working class internationally, their openness to developments, their political flexibility, and their ability to renew themselves intellectually, placed Marxist Socialists at a more advantageous position than others. In this sense, it is necessary to see the importance of the search Marx and Engels entered into while they developed the theory of socialism, and their openness to what was new.

Marx’s views on socialism must also be considered within this framework. When evaluating “Primitive Communist” communities, Marx stated: “If these communities had been able to endure long enough, they could have transitioned to communism. Because the means of production were used in common, and the fundamental principle ‘from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs’ was being realised…” Likewise, in the period in which he exchanged letters with the Russian Marxist Vera Zasulič, he expressed similar views as a result of the research he carried out: “…in theoretical terms, the Russian rural commune, by developing the communal ownership of land on which it is based and at the same time eliminating the principle of private property which it implies, can preserve itself; it can become a direct starting point for the economic system toward which modern society tends; rather than beginning by committing suicide, it can open a new page; it can become the possessor of the fruits that capitalist production has brought to humanity, without passing through the capitalist regime. (…) If the revolution comes at the opportune moment, if the rural commune gathers and concentrates all its forces to enable it to attain its full scope, the rural commune will very soon develop as an element of renewal within Russian society and as an element of superiority vis-à-vis the countries enslaved by the capitalist system.”

<Naming it as scientific socialism

When looking at the dates of Marx’s correspondence with Vera Zasulič, it is necessary to see its direct connection with the findings and data that emerged under the conditions of that period. And not only in this respect: when Marx encountered the knowledge and data regarding Native Americans in Lewis Henry Morgan’s book Ancient Society, what he saw there not only resonated with his own views, but also enriched the interpretations and evaluations he made about history and society. This can also be seen in the book written by Engels, whose influence from Marx is unquestionable, titled The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State. Marx’s naming of his conceptualised views as “Scientific Socialism” must be considered a crucial subject that requires careful attention.

Marx did not adopt a one-dimensional approach when forming his system of thought. He demonstrated an approach grounded in the unity of history, society, economy, and philosophy. In developing Scientific Socialism, he established its connection with English Political Economy, the French Revolution, and German Philosophy. He accepted Political Economy, Scientific Socialism, Dialectical and Historical Materialism as the foundational pillars of this doctrine. Furthermore, he identified the role played by the theory of evolution, the living cell, and the discovery of energy, found their historical significance, and shaped his theory through these developments. For this reason, Scientific Socialism gained broader acceptance than other interpretations of socialism and embarked upon a process of being put into practice.

As can be seen in the prefaces written for each new edition of the Communist Manifesto, Scientific Socialism consistently embraced renewal and carried a characteristic of enriching itself intellectually and practically. As is also understood from Engels’ works Dialectics of Nature and Anti-Dühring, a struggle was carried out against false ideas and tendencies. Thus, Marx and Engels never remained static or stagnant but were always in a process of renewal. In doing so, they did not create clichés or rigid formulas. Leninism, accepted as the Marxism of the twentieth century, became, in its own time, the name of the search for solutions to the problems of putting socialism into practice under changing world conditions, and it waged this struggle accordingly.

<Socialism continues to play its role today

We are living in the years in which the first quarter of the twenty-first century has been completed. At the end of the twentieth century, when Real Socialism dissolved, the system of capitalist modernity sought to “reorganise” the world, and even outer space, in line with its own interests. The Third World War, which began in the last quarter of the twentieth century and still continues today, is being used as the fundamental instrument of this global reorganisation.

Marx and Lenin played their roles and paid heavy prices for the victory of the search and struggle for socialism in their own time. The theoretical, ideological, political, organisational, and practical developments they pioneered and developed were the result of this. They did not view the templates of the past as insurmountable, nor did they adopt a religious or dogmatic approach. For this reason, Marxism, which in the nineteenth century was accepted as Scientific Socialism was, in the twentieth century, accepted as Leninism, and they both came to be recognised as the pioneers of the historical development of socialism.

Under today’s conditions as well, socialism continues to exist on the basis of its historicity, and the struggle waged for it continues to play its role in its entirety. Today, the task of socialists is also defined as rebuilding themselves according to changing world conditions and playing the role of leadership. Just as Marx and Engels fulfilled their historical duty and responsibility in the nineteenth century, and Lenin did so in the twentieth century, it is necessary to struggle for socialism in the twenty-first century as well and this struggle carries historical meaning and importance.

<The legacy of the struggle for socialism

Under today’s conditions, it is no longer possible to speak of Real Socialism, the term used during the Brezhnev era for “achieved socialism” in the Eastern Bloc and in the Soviet Union. In those places, state-based “socialism” experiments collapsed. Beyond those bankrupt experiments, those in various geographies of the world who carried out revolutions in an effort to build state-based socialism also became part of the capitalist system. Likewise, movements, organisations, and parties that waged state-based struggles for independence, democracy, and socialism were dragged into the capitalist system and could not prevent their own dissolution. Within this framework, it is necessary to regard both the socialist experiments of the past, and the revolutionary and socialist struggles being waged today, as major experiences from which conclusions must be drawn. Taken together, all of these are legacies of the struggle for socialism. The task before us is to provide correct answers to the question of how this legacy should be handled, and how it should be placed at the service of ongoing socialist struggles. The answers to be given on this basis are no different from the answers of Marx, Engels, and Lenin. And, as Öcalan stated, the slogan that stands out here is: “Persistence in socialism is persistence in being human.”

There are aspects of achieved socialist experiments, national liberation struggles, and class struggles that have become part of history and have contributed to history and these cannot be denied. We also cannot ignore the aspects in which they failed. If there has been dissolution and failure, the reasons for this must also be seen. Correct conclusions must be drawn from them. In order to reach the right conclusions from lived practice, one must correctly examine the reasons and the results of that practice, and put them through the filter of correct criticism and self-criticism. The path to success passes through this. One of the fundamental tasks before us in the struggle for socialism is precisely this.

Marx and Engels criticised the Utopian Socialists, yet they did not deny their existence or their contributions. They accepted Babeuf as a pioneer for themselves. Likewise, they stated that they were influenced by Hegel and Feuerbach, yet they did not refrain from surpassing them. They debated with Proudhon and Bakunin, yet when necessary, they sought to walk together. However, they maintained their insistence on the ideas they believed to be true.

For these reasons, they also played the role of vanguard in the realisation of revolutions in the twentieth century. They prioritised dynamism over stagnation in thought, organisation, and action; they prioritised richness in method. They acted and struggled according to the “concrete analysis of concrete conditions.” As can be understood from their evaluations and criticisms, they insisted on the correct and revolutionary stance, even in the moments when they were most challenged.

<Persistence in socialism against capitalism

The historical significance of the moment we are going through lies in one shared point embraced by everyone who claims socialism and wages this struggle: persistence in socialism. Even discussing this is unnecessary. Yet there are “achieved socialism” experiments that dissolved and failed. The world is in a state of chaos. The capitalist-imperialist system sees these conditions as an opportunity for itself and seeks to reorganise its system of exploitation and plunder upon them. What needs to be done in response, and the attitude that must be taken, is very clear. It is persistence in socialism. What is fundamental is how its requirements will be fulfilled.

It is not possible to fulfil what is necessary through the experiments and practices of “achieved socialism.” If insistence on “achieved socialism” continues and the same path is followed, the outcome will not change, it will again be nothing but disappointment. For this reason, a repetition of what has already happened will not go beyond being a repeat of the past. What is necessary is not repetition, it is to become a force of solution by drawing upon the experience gained from them and by conducting a concrete analysis of concrete conditions. This requires analysing the process we are in, redefining the fundamental tasks and responsibilities of today, and putting new strategies, tactics, and instruments into practice accordingly. In doing so, it is necessary to adopt a broader perspective not limiting the “achieved socialism” experience only to individuals, or to the mistakes made, or to what was not done. The approach that comes to the fore here concerns the parameters that are prioritised in arriving at solutions. All failures to date, all evaluations, criticisms, and practices regarding “achieved socialism,” have been questioned on this basis, and in the end, not even as much as a barley grain of progress has been made. This was not all: time was wasted; energy and strength were lost; conditions could not be utilised. And this turned into a major possibility, an opportunity, for the capitalist modernity system.

Today, it is known that revolutionary and socialist movements in the world are in a state of search and struggle to solve fundamental problems. One can say that this search and struggle did not begin today, but earlier. Beginning from the second half of the 1960s, the emergence of the Revolutionary Youth movements that swept almost the entire world, and the question “what kind of socialism” that surfaced, was an expression of this. Despite the fact that revolutionary struggles in various countries of the world and state-based socialism experiments have become extensions of the capitalist modernity system, these searches continue. They are becoming a source of hope, strength, and morale for humanity and the future. When these realities are not taken into account, it is not possible to give a sufficient and correct meaning to Öcalan’s Manifesto for Peace and Democratic Society.

<The theoretical openings and perspectives of Öcalan

Abdullah Öcalan’s Manifesto for Peace and Democratic Society must be addressed and evaluated within historical and social reality. This is also a requirement of socialism. If this is not done, neither history nor society can be understood. The views put forward cannot be accurate; they remain fragmented, limited to retelling what happened in the past, and cannot produce solutions. In such a case, the meaning they carry is taken outside its essence. The Manifesto for Peace and Democratic Society must be addressed with such an approach. This approach will bring us together with a correct understanding and struggle of socialism. Any other approach cannot be accepted. Socialism is as historical as it is social, it is the present. As it gains meaning in the Manifesto for Peace and Democratic Society; it is the unity of these. It describes “the longest duration,” that is, both yesterday and today. The first sociality that began with communes, and the current struggle waged against the destruction of society, express this meaning. Therefore, when the meaning and definition of socialism, as expressed by Öcalan is not correctly understood, it becomes impossible to understand the struggle waged in the name of sociality, and the role and position of those who lead it. Likewise, the fundamental reason why Marx and Engels named their views “Scientific Socialism” cannot be understood.

Every historical period and every transitional phase produces currents of thought that express the fundamental characteristics of that period, and they feel the need to show the difference between themselves and what lies outside them. The words used and the meanings attributed to these words in accordance with the mission undertaken, express such meaning. If this were not so, the difference between them and what precedes them, as well as the reason for their existence, could not be understood. Even if it were seen in some way, it would be perceived merely as an addition or reflection of what is essential. The fact that Marx and Engels did not call their teachings simply “socialism” or “utopian socialism” but named them “Scientific Socialism” finds its place within such a reality.

<Criticisms towards real socialism

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Rumors that the US will establish a military base in Damascus has been denied by the STG.

>>2552637 (samefag)
Denied by US officials now.

Centrifugal & Centripetal Forces

>I. Forces


Broadly, the centripetal-centrifugal framework is about scale. Much in our lives cannot be determined by us as individuals — we inadvertently must coordinate with others (or otherwise participate in coordination as consumers, followers, etc).2 Generally, such coordination is often done through recursive hierarchies.3 I refer to forces that increase the size of this coordinating body as centripetal, in that they are pushing for a centralization of coordination through a single larger hierarchy. An alternative terminology could refer to a ‘scaling up’ of coordination.

On the other hand, there are forces running counter to this — which render it more difficult to coordinate at large scales.4 These forces are centrifugal, as they disperse coordination (and therefore power) away from the center on to new smaller hierarchies on the periphery, or even on to individuals. These forces reduce the scale of coordination.

An important claim in the previous essay (and foundational to the rest of the argument) is that the balance between centrifugal and centripetal forces has tipped strongly towards the former. I didn’t expand on this greatly, but this is referring to several trends. The first pertain to local factors, such as the internal pathologies of the Islamic Republic’s ruling clique and the external war being waged against it by foreign powers. But more importantly, it is referring to the general crisis in coordination throughout the world.

This is a somewhat slippery issue to define, but in broad strokes it is the decline in the ability of those without power to coordinate in order to advance their collective interests. While economic inequality has deepened in the last few decades, those on the lower levels of the economic and power hierarchy have become less able to impose their collective will.5

Climate change is probably the easiest prism for understanding this issue. On one side, a growing proportion of humanity has an immediate short-term interest in reducing carbon emissions, while everyone has a long-term interest in doing so. On the other side, a proportion of the capitalist class (already a minority) has a short-term interest in maintaining business-as-usual, or at least not being a first-mover in reducing their own emissions. This is actually a staggeringly uneven balance of forces. Nonetheless, the short-term fossil-capitalist interests, a minority within a minority, are able to absolutely dominate.

The Israeli extermination campaign in Gaza is another example.6 Even in the United States, a mostly pro-Israel country, public opinion is turning against Israel. Nevertheless, this turn in public opinion is fairly inconsequential, as the pro-Israel elite is able to easily dominate over the increasingly Israel-critical majority.7

One (flawed) way to phrase this coordination problem is simply as the ‘decline of the left,’ as the socialist bloc, communist parties, social-democratic parties, economic nationalists in the global south, unions, etc. all represented organized efforts by those on the bottom rungs of social hierarchies to coordinate and advance their collective interests.8 The fact that a large, dispersed, and individually-weak majority will often lose to a well-organized and individually-strong minority is a longstanding observation by social theorists — but it has been a long time since the problem has generally been this bad.

But to expand the idea further, the crisis described above is also part and parcel to a wider fragmentation of society and isolation of individuals. As the masses have become collectively weaker, they have also grown increasingly distant from each other.

An older literature, represented by Robert Putnam’s Bowling Alone, has long documented this decline in sociality. Individuals participate less in unions, religious institutions, and other civic associations. Individuals are less likely to know their neighbors, they have less friends, work in smaller workplaces, marry less (or later), and have less children. Whether declining sociality is a cause or consequence of declining capacity for collective action — it has made it even harder for regular individuals to coordinate to advance their interests.

II. Iranian Centrifuges and Centrifugals

To zoom out, this is the background basis for the claim that centrifugal forces are outweighing centripetal forces in Iran. It is the local pathologies (the internal and international political context) and the general global breakdown in the ability of individuals to achieve collective action.9 With such a drastic change in the background conditions, a previously ‘normal’ occurrence like the collapse of the Iranian state (which has occurred many times, including at least twice in the 20th century), can lead to a different outcome than in the past.

Individuals cooperate to coordinate via larger groups like unions, neighborhood councils, NGOs, political parties, secret societies, and so on. The state is the scaling up of this to its highest degree, to endow a particular entity with sovereign power in order to resolve the coordination problem between these larger groups. If individuals are no longer capable of creating and maintaining these intermediating groups (like mass parties), it is unclear how individuals could construct a new state in a vacuum.

The state becomes something like a leftover vestigial technology from an ancient advanced alien civilization. A technology that we can still keep running, but that no one alive remembers how to build again from scratch.

This framework has implications for how individuals should participate responsibility in political life. The background conditions are of massive centrifugal forces, like a gravitational well tearing societies apart into entropy. Meaningful political action (that is, serious attempts to collectively organize those without power), must push in the opposite direction. Such action must be centripetal, constructing centralizing structures that allow individuals to coordinate through democratic hierarchies.10

Although not framed under these terms, Vincent Bevins’s seminal book If We Burn is a decade-long catalogue of individuals undertaking centrifugal politics en masse, then becoming bewildered as everything they care about becomes worse as a result of their actions. The centerpiece of the book is the Brazilian movement for free public transit. In their attempts to tear down the (deeply imperfect) incumbent socio-political hierarchy built through the Workers’ Party, the anarchists and leftists comprising the movement watched in horror as their actions sparked the rise of Bolsonaro and the Brazilian far-right.

The book’s critical insight is that when existing hierarchies are torn apart, it is difficult to construct alternatives. This was always true, but now much more so because of the background decline in sociality and increased challenges to collective coordination.

As a baseline, the centrifugal forces of entropy dominate. While the lumbering masses try to organize; smaller hierarchies comprised of the incumbent rich and powerful can move quickly to establish their dominance and re-wire the political domain to their advantage, permanently. In a competition between individuals, those starting with the most resources will win. This is an obvious fact. In a one-on-one political fight, you will not defeat a billionaire — or even a multi-millionaire. If your movement simply seeks to smash an existing hierarchy into a thousand pieces, you are simply setting the stage for a fight between you and your friends against people much more powerful than you. The only path for collective action is through centripetal politics.

The paragraphs above connect to Iran because the overwhelming mode of political participation for Iranians is through centrifugal politics. This is especially true in the diaspora. While most diaspora activism is grifting and clout-chasing, its only tangible impact is to render the existing state more illegitimate.

Some practical tips from this essay: when you are at a protest or other political event — ask yourself if it is contributing to centrifugal or centripetal forces. Is there a defined organization you can join? Is it constitutive of a democratic hierarchy that allows you to be led and to lead others? Does it create opportunities for you to be trained? Is it a starting point for the creation of a new social milieu beyond the occasional event? Is it generating a coordination mechanism that allows you to solve collective action problems with those around you? To eventually govern? If not, your actions can functionally only generate more entropy. Despite your deepest wishes and desires, your actions will make things worse.

The thesis here is most definitely not that you must have constructive solutions in order to criticize. That is irrelevant. It is perfectly fine to be part of a force that only criticizes — as long as you are part of an organizational form with a democratic hierarchy that is expanding in scale.

We must always recall the fundamental problem with the existing Islamic Republic: that it is a vehicle for a minority (the Islamist elite and the wider Islamist social pillar) to monopolize power. A democratic and progressive replacement is a much larger political hierarchy that allows for the majority to participate in governing society. Simply destroying the existing state runs in the opposite direction, ensuring that even smaller hierarchies than the Islamic Republic can emerge to dominate Iran. Much like the Brazilians and Egyptians in If We Burn, Iranians may burn down the bad in order for worse to emerge. We may one day witness diaspora supporters of the Woman-Life-Freedom movement watch in horror as the Taliban rolls into Khorasan and the Iranian plateau enters its own terminal Warlord Era.

https://substack.com/home/post/p-174796877

Not Syria, Turkey peace process stuff but can someone please explain me what he meant by this? I was lost before even the Mandani stuff.
We are socialists, alhamdulillah
<Ege Cansen
The intellectual property of this striking title belongs to Yunus Emre Erdölen, one of the writers of "Freedom ." I congratulate him. Before continuing, as is our custom, I will attempt to delve into the roots of some words. Words are the building blocks of understanding, thinking, and generating ideas. Correct ideas are constructed with the right words. The original meaning of words changes over time. More accurately, people ascribe meanings to them that suit their convenience. Because humans are economic. One form of economic behavior is not taking responsibility for things you cannot do. "Elhamdulillah " does not mean "Thank God," but "I praise God ." This translation was made by the literary scholar Hamdullah Suphi (1885-1966). He took the Turkish equivalent of the Arabic name "Hamdullah" (Turkish: Tanrıöver) as his surname. Hamt(d) is derived from the root "h, m, d." It means praise or exaltation. Muhammad (Mehmet), Ahmed, Mahmut, and so on, all come from this root. Gratitude does not come from the same root. The English equivalent of "Elhamdulillah " is "Praise (the) God ." Hallelujah also has the same meaning. The prophets told their believers, "Do not deify yourself, anyone, or me by praising or boasting, but praise Almighty God ." They added, "The rules of life (the sharia) I have communicated are not my commandments, but God's." Thus, they did not assume the responsibility of rewarding those who adhere to the rules they communicated and punishing those who do not. This attitude is rational, that is, economic. In another article, I will discuss the economic aspects of the expressions "salamun aleykum" and "aleykum selam."

He is a revolutionist

Zohran Mamdani, a 34-year-old Ugandan-born Indian Shia Muslim, has been elected mayor of New York City as the Democratic Party's candidate. Mamdani met his secular Muslim wife on an online dating site and married her. He describes himself as a socialist who supports the rights of minorities, women, and gays. In a city with a large Jewish population like New York, he has openly supported Palestinians. Despite the widespread fear of Islam and socialism (read: communism) among white Americans, he has made neither his Muslim identity nor his socialist identity a secret. On the contrary, he has used both as leverage. He didn't descend into politics from the top down, but rather rose from the grassroots. "My mentor is my father, a Marxist professor," he says. His mother is an Indian film director and a Harvard graduate.

EVERY DISCUSSION IN ECONOMICS RESULTS IN INCOME DISTRIBUTION

My economics professor, Sadun Aren (1922-2008), who has a right to be my superior, was also a socialist. There are about 25 fundamental questions in economics. He would say that no matter which question you start with, economic discussions ultimately lead to "national income distribution." Because, in practice, he said, economics cannot be separated from politics. Mamdani was both a Muslim and a socialist. So were Gaddafi, Nasser, and the Baath Party. These things don't feed the poor. When voting, voters primarily think about "what's in it for them ." Knowing this, Mamdani promised free daycare and public transportation, rent freezes, low-cost markets, and the construction of public apartment buildings. He said he would finance these by collecting more municipal taxes from the wealthy. He won the election not by supporting LGBTQ+ groups, but by promising "income transfers from the rich to the poor ." I'm neither happy nor sad for New York. May it be what's best for them. My concern is us. While negotiations for a "terror-free Turkey" may begin with democracy, they will ultimately come down to money. Kurdish politicians will promise Kurds a greater share of the Turkish national income.

LAST WORD: Oh God, do not take from those who have, give to those who do not have.

Ege Cansen

>>2536818
what do you guys think is going on here?
Talal Silo to Rudaw: I am ready to return to the ranks of the SDF through negotiation.
Talal Silo, the former spokesman for the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), expressed his readiness to return to the SDF ranks "through negotiation or humanitarian work aimed at preventing war" with Damascus, stressing that he is still in contact with leading figures in the SDF for the purpose of reassurance and friendship.

Salou defected from the Syrian Democratic Forces in 2017, heading to areas controlled by the Free Army factions north of Aleppo at that time, and then left for Türkiye.

Silo, who was given the rank of "colonel," indicated his refusal to play an "offensive" role against the Syrian Democratic Forces, noting that he is currently "threatened" by Ankara.

During the interview with Rudaw, conducted by presenter Dilbakhwin Dara, he confirmed his readiness to visit areas of northern and eastern Syria, such as the cities of Qamishli, Hasakah and Raqqa, provided that there are “special arrangements to preserve his life,” expressing his desire to settle in the Kurdish city of Afrin because it is “beautiful and its people are hospitable.”

Below is the text of the dialogue:

Rudaw: We welcome Colonel Talal Silo, the former spokesperson for the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF). He later defected and went to Turkey, a move that sparked much controversy and reaction, but he did not wish to antagonize the SDF. Now, he has returned to the forefront with his interviews and statements. I felt it was important at this sensitive time to conduct a special interview with him. My guest is Colonel Talal Silo, the former spokesperson for the Syrian Democratic Forces, from Aleppo. Welcome, Colonel, I hope you are well. Before you became the SDF spokesperson, after you left, and even now, I have been following you closely. I want to start with the final question: Are you prepared to return to the ranks of the SDF?

Talal Silo: I thank Rudaw TV for this wonderful interview. Currently, the issue of returning is not on the table, and there is no communication with the General Command of the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) to arrange my return to work within their ranks. There is personal contact with some SDF leaders, but there has been no communication with the General Command or the direct officials responsible for arranging my return and working with them. There are no arrangements currently being made.

Rudaw: But, do you have any intention, i.e., do you want to return to the ranks of the SDF?

Talal Silo: As I mentioned, the issue isn't one of intention, but rather a lack of communication. Once communication is established with the General Command, we can discuss the possibility of returning. Of course, there were reasons for leaving. If we see today that my presence within the General Command of the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) can serve my country, the region, and the SDF—given the existing communication between the Syrian state leadership and the SDF leadership—and if I were asked to undertake a negotiation or humanitarian role aimed at preventing any potential conflict between the two sides, and to play an active role in leading the SDF, I could discuss this with the General Command. However, as of now, there is no such proposal.

Rudaw: After your defection and your departure to Türkiye, did Mazloum Abdi or other leaders in the SDF speak with you? Didn't they ask you to return to their ranks?

Talal Silo: No, absolutely not. As I mentioned, there has been no contact between me and General Mazloum Abdi or anyone else in the leadership. Communication is limited to personal relationships, simply to check on each other. I contact commanders to inquire about their well-being, and they reciprocate, nothing more, based on past personal friendships during my time with the Syrian Democratic Forces. Currently, there is no contact whatsoever with Mr. Mazloum Abdi or any other party involved in the leadership of the Syrian Democratic Forces.

Rudaw: You were a high-ranking commander, a spokesperson for the SDF, and you toured many cities in Rojava (Syrian Kurdistan). Would you like to return to Qamishli for a visit, given that you are currently in Aleppo, which is not far from Qamishli?

Talal Silo: I could visit Qamishli and those areas as a private visit, because I have friends, memories, and brothers there in Qamishli, Hasakah, and even Raqqa, where we participated in liberating ISIS and eliminating its so-called "Islamic Caliphate." The visit is possible, but it requires special arrangements—security arrangements, as you know. My presence in those areas as a civilian guest could pose a risk. If I were to visit those areas, arrangements would need to be made with friends, relatives, and brothers who are there, in order to ensure my safety.

Rudaw: Which Kurdish city is closest to your heart?

Talal Salou: Honestly, I visited several cities, but the most beautiful city for me was Afrin, even though I only spent two and a half months there. I have wonderful memories of it because of the nature of its people, the Kurdish community in Afrin, their kindness, and their hospitality. This left a very positive and beautiful impression on me. I consider Afrin the most beautiful Kurdish city in Syria, and I still hope to visit it again and even settle there because of its incredible beauty.

Rudaw: The distance between you and Afrin is about 60 or 70 kilometers; you can visit it. Colonel Talal, you used to criticize the SDF when you went to Turkey. Now I see you and follow you, and your position is completely different. You are defending the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF). What is the reason for this change in your position?

Talal Silo: Let me clarify, this isn't about defending myself, it's about stating the facts. In all my interviews, I mention both the positives and the negatives. When I compare them, I state the facts. I can't go against my conscience and mention things that didn't happen or attack the Syrian Democratic Forces on specific points. During my service in the Syrian Democratic Forces, there were positive aspects, such as the work ethic, fighting spirit, teamwork, and even brotherhood. I never spoke ill of Mr. Mazloum Abdi or anyone in the general command because they were good people. My disagreements with them were solely about work-related matters; there were no personal conflicts that might have been overlooked.

Rudaw: Do you regret leaving and abandoning the SDF?

Talal Silo: No, I left the Syrian Democratic Forces under certain circumstances that led to my departure. These circumstances, as I mentioned to you, have now changed.

Rudaw: During your time in Türkiye, were you pressured or asked to oppose the SDF?

Talal Silo: Yes, there was pressure from certain parties within the Turkish state. I was pressured regarding interviews and social media, and there were restrictions on this. I always stated facts and realities, and this didn't suit certain parties in Turkey. I was repeatedly asked to take an offensive stance against the Syrian Democratic Forces and their leadership, but I always refused. I told everyone that regardless of any work-related disagreements, I was part of the General Command and participated in its founding; we shared a bond, and I couldn't betray that bond by attacking them. I stated the facts, and even the General Command accepted this because I only spoke the truth. But this led to pressure on me from Turkey. Let me tell you something: after I came to Syria six months ago, some Turks asked me to return to Turkey, but I refused. My time in Turkey ended, and I am now in my country, Syria. I was surprised two days ago to find that my Twitter account, "Talal Ali Silo," was restricted within Turkish territory. This is evidence that they are not satisfied with my presence here, nor with the way I am handling the Syrian issue as a whole, and not just the issue of the Syrian Democratic Forces.

Rudaw: Are you facing a threat and danger to your life from Türkiye?

Talal Silo: Honestly, yes. I was threatened with prosecution for belonging to the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF). This isn't just talk; it's a fact. A tribal defector, Abu Muhammad Kafr Zita, who was in charge of public relations for the SDF and defected to Turkey, was tried and sentenced to three years and nine months in prison, then he fled to Germany. As for me, the threats were direct, to take me to court, and to my family, that I would "pay the price" if I didn't work with them on the Syrian issue, especially regarding the SDF. I categorically refused, and I was prevented from appearing in the media because my appearances didn't suit them, even though I had coordinated with them (Turkey). But it seems my situation didn't suit them. When I did appear in the media, it was under their direction and focused on specific points, so I minimized my media appearances or preferred not to appear at all.

Rudaw: Well, do you expect that Turkey’s policy towards the Kurds, towards Rojava and the Autonomous Administration has changed? Or do you see a possibility in the near future, for example, that General Mazloum Abdi will be invited to Turkey for a meeting?

Talal Silo: Currently, we are witnessing a peace initiative launched by Turkish nationalists led by Devlet Bahçeli. This initiative will be general and will address the Kurdish issue in general, both in Syria and Turkey. Anything is possible; politics are fluid, and no enmity is permanent. Things could change at any moment, and we might see Mazloum Abdi visiting Turkey. Today, we see how sanctions have been lifted on Ahmed al-Sharaa, who was wanted and considered the number one enemy of America and the international community, and he is now visiting America and being received by the American president. We also hear that Abdullah Öcalan may deliver a speech in the Turkish parliament. All of this will have a positive impact on the Syrian issue, as the Turkish and Syrian files cannot be separated due to their interconnectedness.

Rudaw: You were a spokesperson for the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), and you understand military matters well and held a military rank before joining the SDF. I hope war doesn't break out, but if war does erupt between the SDF and the Syrian army, how do you see the disparity in power between the two sides? And who could win?

Talal Silo: To be frank, from a military standpoint, the Syrian Arab Army is currently suffering from disarray, and its military capabilities are depleted after the Israeli bombing of airports and military sites. I hope there won't be a clash, because all the blood spilled on Syrian soil will ultimately be Syrian blood. But if we look at past events, without the direct intervention of the Turkish army, the "National Army" wouldn't have achieved any victories against the Syrian Democratic Forces in previous battles before the regime's fall. Currently, we are calling for an end to hate speech and the sowing of discord among all groups. The battlefield dictates the military situation, but in my estimation, the Syrian army is stretched thin across several fronts, such as the Suwaida situation and the volatile situation in Daraa, in addition to the recent campaigns against ISIS. Therefore, it currently lacks the capacity to open a new front against the Syrian Democratic Forces, who are well-trained and capable on the ground. However, we hope there won't be a clash. I believe the international community will not allow a new battle to erupt in Syria; everyone is calling for de-escalation and peace.

Rudaw: I also hope that war does not break out. Mr. Talal, you have lived among the Kurds for a long time, and you are of Turkmen origin. Have you learned the Kurdish language?

Talal Salou: No, honestly, because the Kurdish comrades in the General Command were fluent in Arabic, which made things easier for us, so there was no need to learn it. But I have no objection; it's a beautiful language. Besides, I have Kurdish roots. My grandmother (my father's mother) was Kurdish, and my father's maternal uncles are Kurds from the city of Al-Rai. This isn't new to our family; we have Kurdish roots on my grandmother's side.

Rudaw: You said that your maternal uncles are Kurds, and that you are "our nephew".

Talal Silo: Yes, this is the reality and we cannot hide it. I thank Rudaw TV, and God willing, we will meet soon in the Kurdistan Region
https://www.rudawarabia.net/arabic/interview/15112025


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