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Chynah Indians funds the war in Ukraine edition.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-scotland-uk-starmer-eu-trade-deal/


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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine

https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323733
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323731
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323735
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323740

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📺 • The Nature of Putin's Russia and Its Causes (3-Part Series) - 1Dime
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>>2424085
i think at this point cucktin is feeling some pressure to make a deal (it's hilarious that this is negotiated with the the POTUS not zelensky) given his war machine has completely bogged down and the russian economy is finally starting to feel the consequences of the war

>>2424106
This is just me, but I'm not sure we can entirely trust that we're getting the complete and truthful story from known western propaganda outlets such as the Wallstreet Journal or BBC, and maybe we shouldn't rush to conclusions.

>>2424155
This is an american capitulation, although drumph is probably too stupid to negotiate it correctly

>>2424166
im not sure trump even understands the russian position. he just continued to use 1980s American businessman tactics gleaned from one of those shitty books that were like the wisdom of Sun Tzu for the entrepreneur

I wanna see Ziggers, who were talking about Ukraine collapse for 3 years now and Odessa and whatever, preaching us about how glorious and decisive it is that Russia gets to keep crimea. lol

>>2424972
You can finally tell your girlfriend how you triumphed over the bad people in the computer and she'll suck your dick at long last. Just spare a moment if you've got time before busting to think of us when you do.

>>2424976
Don't worry about my triumph, I made enough betting correctly on the course and outcome of this SMO *laughs

Worry about yourself acting like Putin's cuck throughout it

>>2424972
>I want to see most of ukraine under nazi yoke
ok nafoid, but reminder this is just wishful thinking, because russia is still winning

>>2425021
Bro you literally have issues and make stories in your mind. Consult a doctor 💊

>>2424110
>meeting in the US is insane on putin's part.
fr they might just assassinate him. its not like they care about their image

>>2424155
>i think at this point cucktin is feeling some pressure to make a deal
pressure from what?
>his war machine has completely bogged down and the russian economy is finally starting to feel the consequences of the war
right as they are making significant gains?

got a source that isnt rfl? seems to me its just a continuation of demonstrating willingness to talk for the benefit of third party watchers(india, china etc)

>>2424972
he says, as russia finishes lugansk and begins to finish donetsk

>>2425059
>right as they are making significant gains?
But are they making them fast enough?

In other news there are reports of Russians reaching the city centers of Pokrovsk and Kupiansk, and even units operating tens of kilometers behind Ukrainian lines.

>>2424155
>>2424166
>>2424589
trump doesn't understand the russian position and when he's told it he will not be willing to swallow the demands because it will look like a capitulation, the same as it's been all along.
my guess is the talks will amount to nothing and the war will end militarily, same as before. it's political theater that buys Dump some time and gets the neocons off his back for a while. He doesn't want to do the giga-tariffs he threatened because it will kill the US economy and his presidency, but he has no other cards (except maybe assassinating/arresting Putin in Alaska and hoping that does something.)
>>2424972
>takes nato's cock out of mouth for 5 seconds to post on /ukr/ about what he wants to see
yeah, no one cares faget

File: 1754717551166-0.jpg (102.75 KB, 1280x720, Лукашенко.jpg)

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Belarusian 'president' Alexander Lukashenko says he will not run for a new presidential term, according to TASS

>>2425076
>But are they making them fast enough?
fast enough for what?

>>2425125
Why did you put President in quotes, fascist?

>>2425034
What about that picture do you think bolsters your argument

>>2424972
The Ukrainian Civil War started in Kramtorsk and Sloviansk. Whoever controls it by the end of this has "won" over all.

>>2424034
>muh ebin comic is a good counter argument to empirical evidence
America bombed Japan to ashes. Japan today loves America.
The USSR leveled Germany to the ground. Germany during the Cold War loved Russia and only stopped loving Russia when Russia lost the Cold War.
Israel BTFO every Arab nation enemy it ever had and forced the remaining ones to sign peace treaties with it. No one else seems to care besides the Palestinians themselves.
Clearly killing tons of people works and anything else is cope.

I like this never-ending attempt by NAFOids to insist that they're pleased with an outcome where Russia may make a deal where Crimea, Lugansk and Donbass at the very least become normalised as Russian territories, on the basis that Russia's rather ambiguous goals in terms of territory can be interpreted as they wanted all of Ukraine, for which there is no conceivable deal for, while ignoring the fact that Ukraine was not being ambiguous when they set the victory conditions as 1991 borders restored in their entirety and NATO having generally presented itself as an overpowered anti-Russian bulwark that deters Russia from any kind of military action beyond its western borders by its mere existence, but now is willing to concede the territories of another nation just to end hostilities.

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>>2425195
Stop coping FSBtard. Everyone expected Russia to roll over Ukraine including the Russians themselves. The fact that Ukraine cucked Cucktin out of 80% of Ukraine is good enough.

>>2425196
So you're thrilled that Russia is getting 20% of Ukraine, is what you're saying

>>2425197
No I'm actually furious. It should be 100% but I underestimated how fucked up a Russia led by a center-right liberal retard became. Clearly Russia is a gravely weakened shell of itself unable to project force anywhere anymore and that scares the shit out of me since if NATO regime changes them and inevitably takes out Iran then China is completely surrounded. Your weakness and incompetence has fucked over the remaining socialist states.

>>2425198
>No I'm actually furious
You must be because imagine contradicting yourself that quickly lmao
>The fact that Ukraine cucked Cucktin out of 80% of Ukraine is good enough.
>It should be 100%
So you're pleased that Ukraine retains 80% of its territory, but you're ackshually furious Russia didn't get 100%

>>2425200
Reading comprehension my ESL friend. I meant for UKRAINE 80% is a good enough result. But for Russia and my own political views 20% is dogshit.

>>2425201
>You can't read
You literally started your first post by claiming I work for the FSB but now you're Russia's greatest advocate claiming they ought to have had 100% of Ukraine.
There's two possible angles for shitposting, there's the pro-Ukrainian angle that lauds Ukraine for "cucking" Russia out of territories it never set foot on and there's the concern trolling disgruntled "pro-Russian" angle that asserts that Russia had maximalist goals as set by a handful of talking heads on Russian media and should have achieved all of those goals because Russia stronk 2nd army of the world Command and Conquer Red Alert vibes.
You've attempted both in quick succession despite the contradiction because you are in fact furious, just not in the way you wish to present it.
>I meant for UKRAINE 80% is a good enough result.
Well, you're wrong, because Zelensky still insists that 1991 borders is the only satisfactory goal for Ukraine.
> my own political views 20% is dogshit.
Strange because you're talking like that matters at all to anyone.

>inb4 I know they wanted 100% but 80% is good enough
Then forcing NATO into a negotiated settlement of a conflict born of its own territorial ambitions, an act that is unprecedented for NATO, is good enough as well.

Will Alaska lead to a sort of Molotov-Ribbentrop remix?

>>2425203
>You literally started your first post by claiming I work for the FSB but now you're Russia's greatest advocate claiming they ought to have had 100% of Ukraine.
And? Both can be true. What is a contradiction in your mind is not a contradiction in reality.
>There's two possible angles for shitposting, there's the pro-Ukrainian angle that lauds Ukraine for "cucking" Russia out of territories it never set foot on and there's the concern trolling disgruntled "pro-Russian" angle that asserts that Russia had maximalist goals as set by a handful of talking heads on Russian media and should have achieved all of those goals because Russia stronk 2nd army of the world Command and Conquer Red Alert vibes.
Ah that's the problem. Your brain is so small you can't comprehend the notion of someone supporting Russia winning the war but also criticizing the government every step of the way for their mistakes. You mistake blind obedience as the only form of support possible which explains a lot about the Slav worldview and how retarded Russians are.
>Well, you're wrong, because Zelensky still insists that 1991 borders is the only satisfactory goal for Ukraine.
And he has his entire life to accomplish those goals. Russia thought they won in Syria then got BTFO a decade later. Same thing can happen with Ukraine.
>Strange because you're talking like that matters at all to anyone.
It clearly matters to you hence your attempted psychoanalysis of my position but you're too stupid to understand that you initiated that topic.

>>2425263
Spurdo anon posted a video of said media talking heads declaring maximal goals with short victory times accompanied with a claim that Ukraine cucked Russia and indeed all of those talking heads by retaining 80% of their land… then immediately placed himself amongst those talking heads with similarly maximal goals for Russia and therefore someone Ukraine has also cucked, that he is furious about, but not so much that he can't reason to himself that Ukraine cucking him out of celebrating Russia taking 100% of Ukraine surely is good enough compared to their actual stated goal of retaking all of the 1991 borders, that they still consider their sole victory condition literally to today.

I suppose there is a continuity to it, but it's weird, directionless, entirely personal and doesn't do anything to counter my original point that the flip side to
>Lol Russia failed because they didn't get 100% of Ukraine
is that they're therefore celebrating the possibility of surrendering Crimea, Lugansk and Donbass, that are the original grounds the civil war was fought over and that Kiev has had the sole stated mission of reclaiming against the will of the locals for the last 9 years.

That is to say, if they are actually celebrating unironically, then it can only be through gritted teeth and wet eyes.

>Trump's special envoy Witkoff misunderstood
>Kyiv • UNN
>August 9 2025, 02:42 AM • 12234 views

>US President Donald Trump's special envoy, Steve Witkoff, "misunderstood" Russian dictator Vladimir Putin. This is reported by the German publication BILD, citing sources, according to UNN.

Details

>"Vladimir Putin still wants full control over the Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson regions. He only offered a partial ceasefire – a refusal to attack energy facilities and large cities in the rear. But not a comprehensive ceasefire," a BILD source stated.


>The publication emphasizes that the US, on the contrary, proposed freezing the war along the current front line in exchange for a broad lifting of sanctions and new economic agreements with Russia. According to BILD, the Kremlin was unwilling to accept this proposal.

https://unn.ua/en/news/trumps-special-envoy-witkoff-misunderstood-putin-bild

haha. the "misunderstandings" and walkbacks start already.
>oooooh you meant WE had to leave kherson and zapo. Well i….

everyone needs to cool their jets and stop believing rumors in the press. putin is not going to cuck from the previous demands.
and even if he somehow did it would probably be a show because he knows zelensky and the europeans will refuse to budge on anything and trump has proven unwilling or incapable of standing them down or cutting them off. so they refuse the agreement and either the conflict continues as before or trump changes color and finally blames them for refusing peace and cuts them off. either way is ok for russia.
Everyone should know by now that Zelensky and the Euros will never rest until they get to find out who is the last holhol. They wouldn't allow Putin to cuck even if he wanted to.

>>2425263
>of my position
Oh I'm sorry, I thought you weren't Spurdo anon

>>2424085
>Trump and Putin to meet in Alaska
The manlet simp with an inferiority complex strikes again!

>>2424031
>Anyways, this is why I think the Cucktin posters probably have the right instincts, and Putin will make some sort of deal.
Anything less than the four oblasts as Russia and the Banderite government gone (hint: Zaluzhny is just Zelensky 2.0) is a vindication of Cucktin posters and a strategic defeat for Russia.
Luckily… there's no way Putin will accept less than that. Right? R-r-r-r-right? :/

If the Zelensky regime remains in power, then the Kremlin is making the same mistake it did in 2014, where a modest land grab didn't alter the trajectory of Russia's predicament with the neo-Nazi Russophobes. It also means that one of the stated goals of the SMO – de-Nazification – hasn't been achieved.
And, no, giving Trump what he wants on the 'promise' of elections or whatever in Ukraine isn't 4D chess, no matter how much the chance "to show da judges of da universe dat da Yanks are liars" is spun as such. Putin will just ignore every transgression that the US and Ukraine engage in with that 'electoral path' the same way he ignores the brazen US/UK attacks on his soil. And most important, Ukraine can't be fixed by 'muh democratic' elections. The Nazi government must be exterminated.

Where is the new threda?

>>2425311
If Odessa is Odesa then the whole thing is a failure, simple as

>>2425311
>>2425315
>>2425318
>See what ziggers don't understand that this is a zero-sum game for Russia but victory can be nuanced for Ukraine

Still LOL @ meeting in Alaska, which the tsar cucks gave to America. Even the hypothetical meeting in Minsk that blackpillers used to quip about is looking better by comparison.

>>2425319
You're coping.
Four oblasts + Zelensky government gone is the bare minimum. Now you're even reneging on that ("muh nuance") because you hate that Putin is going to make a fool of you.

Telegrammers claiming that Putin is prepared to give up two oblasts now if Ukraine leaves the other two, wtf. Are they just believing the wrong Westoid press, or do the oligarchs really have Putin's balls squeezed like that?

>>2425295
>He only offered a partial ceasefire – a refusal to attack energy facilities and large cities in the rear
We doing the March 18 - April 18 energy ceasefire again that Ukraine broke immediately and repeatedly (hundreds of times, per Peskov) and that Putin insisted on adhering to out of honor like a good like Christcuck?

File: 1754748406126.mp4 (Spoiler Image,770.26 KB, 598x480, Ukraine war drone.mp4)

Dunno if Russian or Ukrainian but human vs the machine…

>>2425327
I'm allowed to use the same point Spurdo made
>And he has his entire life to accomplish those goals. Russia thought they won in Syria then got BTFO a decade later. Same thing can happen with Ukraine.
Rather than Zelensky (or the governments fashioned as his successors and that of Poroshenko) living for long enough to see Russia's inevitable terminal cuckout and collapsing by which Ukraine gets full victory by default, 10-15 years after the end of hostilities, I postulate the possibility that, au contraire, there isn't very much life left in the current Ukrainian political class that isn't entirely life support from the West who you might have missed, don't find the Nazis to be all that easy to work with.

Also I think it's well established by now that I care way more about NATO being thwarted than I do about Russia living up to its reputation as stronk, no-compromise, win at any cost.

>>2424034
The reason I don't like the 'nuke Kiev' talk is that it implies that Putin is operating at peak non-nuclear performance and that nuking is his only remaining option, but there are many conventional steps before that - for instance, he could finally kill Ukraine's power and bring the country to a grinding halt. This is NATO SOP under dual-use infrastructure.
But it's absolutely true that, albeit with n=1, the historical record has a precedent that nuclear aggressors don't become pariah states, apparently not even in their eyes of their nuclear victims.

>>2425335
Spurdo's views change depending on the drugs he's taking each day.
Settling for less than the four oblasts (even the Istanbul 2024 conditions included those four oblasts) and the de-Nazification of the Ukrainian government is not NATO being thwarted any more than the Crimea land grab in 2014 was NATO being thwarted. It just makes the inevitable clash between Russia and the Banderite proxy more difficult in future, as the 2014 negligence showed.
I've sided with you against the maximalism of taking all of Ukraine or even Kiev, but this is asking too much and appears like a bad cope spell.


>>2425330
The two oblasts Putin'll keep are going to be Sevastopol and Crimean Republic LOL


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