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>>2418173FRIENDLY REMINDER TO FILTER GLOWTARDS >>2419627I mean
someone is going to get the job either way.
>>2419656For the record you can easily click filter by name without having to type out the whole name. Anyone who wants to filter my posts can do that just fine; ain’t changing my name anytime soon.
>>2419652Yknow the one funny thing about capitalism is you’ll get these weird moments where purely because of finance, you’ll have shit like a straight guy heading up Grindr or a Christian own a porn distribution company.
>>2419702What the goykiller guy? Ehhh he’s an angry troll, and if you filter the name you can ignore him easy.
Honestly filtering makes the board a lot cleaner imo.
>>2419684I could definitely could see that considering the state of things. Unfortunately, the bizarre funny event has now become completely unfunny for now.
I am now seeing this is actually a staged event. And not only that, it’s confirmed a previous fear I had developed earlier with the White House renovations. The orange fucker is planning to turn DC into his own gaudy version of Versailles. Renovating not only the White House, but the entire city it resides in.
And as an excuse to do it, he’s using a racist narrative against the highly prevalent black population in DC. Saying that the city is too dangerous because of them, and that he needs direct control to make it “orderly again”. And at the same exact same time, he’s starting to install confederate statues around the area as well. And he’s started removing portions of the constitution online as well.
He is definitely going to make a push for more power very soon.
>>2419711What a gem
>>2419704>the goykiller guy? Ehhh he’s an angry trollbut like what's his deal. is he a sincere zionazi or is he a neonazi pretending to be a zionazi, or a zionazi pretending to be a neonazi poorly pretending to be a zionazi or…. I suppose it doesn't matter anymore
>>2419755>what is it called when the bourgeoise bends the knee to State Powerour state is a dictatorship of the
bourgeoisie however
>>2419759yes, the bourgoisie as a class needs to practice collective discipline. if individual banks or corporations go hogshit wild they can destabilize the whole system. The entire point of reformism inside the system is to reign in the worst excesses of capitalism to keep the system running smoothly so it doesn't provoke a revolution.
Read section 24:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm >>2419760I graduated high school in 2010 so it's probably different now but when I was in school we were in the sort of Fukuyama neoliberal victory lap era still so there was less overt anti communism. The anti communism of the 00s when I grew up was about saying how communism was
already defeated in 1991 and essentially praising Gorbachev and Yeltsin for making Russia "democratic."
I think as China gets stronger the education in America is becoming more revisionist, more "patriotic" and more explicitly anti-communist than at any time since the McCarthyist Red Scare era.
>>2419773Reactionary misanthropy overrides ideology every time.
They are anti-humans. They exist only to destroy humanity by any means available to them.
>>2419777>finance porky has no autonomy and obeys state power*bourgeois state power
finance porky has so little autonomy that they get bailed out every time they cause a crisis. finance porky has so little autonomy that a billionaire is president. finance porky has so little autonomy that we live in an era of unprecedent and bipartisan deregulation, privatization, union busting, austerity, etc.
what a joke lmfao
>>2419784>When can we just start putting these people into camps?when you
seize political power get enough followers on twitter. Political power flows from the
barrel of a gun twitter feed.
>>2419773Reminder this guy popularized the term "Cultural Marxism" by plagiarizing the Unabomber manifesto and replacing "leftists" with "Cultural Marxists". Everytime some conservative uses that term, they're quoting a mass murderer.
What's funny is Kaczynski himself plagiazed the authors he read while hiding in his cabin (mostly Jacques Ellul's book The Technological Society).
>>2419768What else is needed? They support the existence of Israel as a Jewish state and therefore they are Zionist. You cannot be Zionist and communist at the same time.
I know this is hard for you all to understand, being strasserites, but fascism and communism are opposites. There is no such thing as a fascist communist.
>>2419727Catholics get a buff to CK3, EU4, and Stellaris at least.
>>2419734Dunno, soon as I see the gigachad meme I just assume the post is stupid and don’t read it. This is the opposite with Lear, where I respect him but his style of writing is too difficult for me to parse sometimes.
>>2419854>The thing about Sovereign Citizens is that they're very VERY close to getting the point. Laws are arbitrary and only come into existence by one group having power over another, whereas a community of equals doesn't need "laws" because it's all agreed upon what behavior is assholeish and not to be tolerated.Ehhhhhhhhh I’ve got to disagree with the last point. I think a lot of SovCit devolves to trying to justify insane douchebag individualist behavior. Stuff like “I shouldn’t have to pay for plowing into my neighbor’s house because this is an admiralty court.” Like that town that got taken over by libertarians and suddenly no one collected garbage, it got overrun by bears because one of them thought it was cute to feed them, and they had their first murder in years.
I work with the public, I hate to say it, but I’d much rather have a codified form of laws than relying on “well we’re all brothers here.”
Key sections of the US Constitution deleted from government’s website
>Several sections of Article 1 of the U.S. Constitution appear to have been removed from the official U.S. government website, as pointed out by sleuths on the internet and as seen by TechCrunch.
>The changes were made in the past month, according to the Wayback Machine, which shows the full original text on Congress’ website as of July 17.
>Several Reddit threads identified the changes in Article 1 of the U.S. Constitution: large parts of Section 8 have been removed, and Sections 9 and 10 have been deleted altogether. In the screenshot below, you can see the archived version of the site on the Wayback Machine on the left, and the current site on the right — the text highlighted in yellow has been removed.
>These sections largely relate to the powers that Congress has and does not have, as well as limitations on the powers of individual states. The removal includes sections relating to habeas corpus, the powers that protect citizens from unlawful detention.
>Some of the sections’ text appears missing, as indicated by a trailing semicolon at the end of Section 8, where text used to follow.
>In a tweet posted on Wednesday, the Library of Congress said the sections were missing “due to a coding error” and expect it to be “resolved soon.” When contacted by TechCrunch, a spokesperson for the Library of Congress did not say what caused the coding error, or how it was introduced.
>Changing the U.S. Constitution’s text on the website does not change or have any effect on U.S. law, but it nevertheless follows senior Trump administration official Stephen Miller’s threats earlier this year to suspend habeas corpus.
>A White House spokesperson did not immediately return a request for comment.https://techcrunch.com/2025/08/06/key-sections-of-the-us-constitution-deleted-from-governments-website/Fellas is this literally Nineteen Eighty Four?
>>2419861I mean nothings really changed, as far as I know, about the forums I listed. Well, beyond the fact more people bitch that you talk about that thing they never worked on fixing.
>>2419866By not going to feminist conferences or reading feminist literature and not calling yourself one.
>>2419892I want the bourgeoisie
and their lackeys dead
>muh board is dead cuz muh feefee >>2419892broke: kill the system
woke: kill all capitalists
bespoke: kill all humans
>>2419918 (me)
in Tomato Town, of course!
>>2419916I'm sorry if I gave you the impression of being a troll, I really am. I've been around long enough with le internet to deeply, deeply hate all forms of trolling and consider it a sign of mental illness.
But I've meant what I posted, anon.
>>241992711/9th times worst!
>>2419923funny how Penny poster remerged only after the new season of Gumball came out.
>>2419998ZHENGJIU WOMEN BA
XI ZHUXI
>>2419959>replacethings you projected onto what was actually said
Literal golem. Half-human. Illiterate orc. American.
>>2419617India before the Tariffs: I LOVE TRUMP!!!!!
India after the Tariffs:
>>2420054You guys are like psychologically incapable to hold a conversation, like wtf.
How are you not a different race, for real?
>>2420055If the third world really hated Americans on an ontological level, and not simply the American government and ruling class, then someone like Jackson Hinkle would get lynched for stepping foot in Yemen, rather than being able to give a speech in front of thousands. People larping as third-world
ists on /leftypol/ want me to believe that the rest of the world hates us ontologically, rather than just hates our government for the things it does. At best they resent us for not fighting harder, which is totally fair. That's way different than this kinda weird hostility I see on here.
(And I'm not a huge fan of Hinkle for what it's worth, he's a reactionary grifter and goes on like bro podcasts and shit and say women need to obey men and blah blah blah, I'm just using him as an example because he actually step foot in Yemen and gave an anti-imperialist speech to huge applause)>>2420072Lurk more and you'll see it was a totally fair assessment.
>>2420083>>2420090We’re not interested in subscribing to your content, Nick.
If you’re a fan shilling, that’s even sadder
>>2420064🦀 🪣
>>2420080Personally my point of view is the only leverage you have is the amount of care you give to those types. They operate off the assumption of being owed, and if you say unequivocally that you owe them nothing, then every thing you do that benefits them becomes a gift.
Basically if a crab tries pulling you down into the bucket with them: cut its claw off and escape. Should you offer them a chance to get out, only when your footing is secure, then they’ll call you a hero.
>>2420107I mean it's weird because I want third world
ers to be free of American imperialism. But here come third world
ists living in the first world to say, no it's not enough for them to be free, you have to basically suffer what your ruling class did to them for justice to be served. Meanwhile my ruling class is gonna go hide in a bunker in New Zealand while I supposedly will suffer the wrath of the JDPON nukes or something. It seems to me to be a deliberate fed attempt to shitcoat anti-imperialism.
>>2420080I've been here longer than you, dude. See that banner on top of the page? There's a 40% chance I made it back in the bunkerchan/8ch times.
Got any questions, youngin?
>>2420132Dude, you weird belligerent parasocial weirdos are the ones at fault by escalating shit and reading everybody in bad faith
>NOOOOO A NAMED ANON SAID A THING I DONT LIKEthen fucking filter the guy you dipshit. How fucked in the head do you have to be to devote every day to yelling at one guy on an imageboard
>>2420132You hate CPUSA "anon" for being """fascist""".
I hate him because his content is mundane.
We are not the same:
>u: lib>me: commieThank u for your (very limited) attention
I feel like this
>>2419881Should be slightly bigger news. The US government trying to sneakily edit out the section on habeas corpus seems like they're trying to test the waters for how easily they can just make up constitutional justifications by editing history
>>2420116To be honest I tend to lean more towards human stupidity than federal scheming. Like I personally believe, for example, Sakai was a fed—didn’t stop non-feds from picking him up and saying “this guy is based”.
>>2420140I’ll take being the whole grain bread equivalent of communism, not the worst I’ve been called.
>>2420175This is what happens when you allow insane genocidal posters to jack off about how they want to feed the third world into a meat grinder for their treats all day long and do nothing about it.
Turns out that most of the world hates being told they have to die for your comfort and will rebel against that. You will never have any peace as long as CPUSAnon is allowed to post it's murderous fantasies in peace. If this was a real left wing community you would have hounded it to suicide by now.
>>2420197Dude, you’re part of the problem.
Nobody in their right mind is saying that, and you’re on here every day starting fights where you put words in people’s mouths. Look in the mirror.
>>2420196It's okay, CPUSA "anon," you are not the worst, as far I'm concerned. As far as I can tell your post history is like
>muh (obvious) cultural issues vs. liberalism>muh rust belt (n' shiet)And so on. I have nothing against you personally, mind you. I think your post history proves you are above the general namefag lot. Probably because you are actually involved with a fuckin party, I'd reckon.
Still, your posts are "meh" at best and I tend to skip 'em. Forgive my honesty.
t. Ginjeet >>2420167You honestly think this is a "troll issue," lol?
See the
>>2420050only honest burger poster ITT:
>>2420197>I'M FUKKEN MAAAD ABOUT THIS POSTER ON BURGERPOLlog off, maybe?
Stenches of r/first_world_problemz
>>2420208>I am the only anti-fascist hereI wish this was true.
t. bordiga pilled
>>2420204Hey man it’s no problem; I ain’t asking anyone to like me. Glad the worst I am in your eyes is boring; cause lemme tell you there was a guy a few months ago spamming some sketchy looking link like “CPUSANON IS A FASCIST, I HAVE PROOF.”
>>2420132I mean if I somehow did all that; wouldn’t it be kind of proof my way works? Like your outright hostility just isolated you from everyone else and gradually shifted the board towards me?
That said it’s an absurd statement. I ain’t a mod or anything so I don’t think I’d have any power to shift the discourse on here. If I were the extent of it would be banning the hysterical “I’m the only real communist!!!!” types and obvious trolls like that GoyKiller guy.
>>2420289>Looks to me like they're getting ready to cast off pretense of democracyThe GOPers are going to gerrymander themselves into permanent power
a la Fidesz or the AKP and the Dems will be eating chicken tacos and doing interpretive dance protests in front of the White House ballroom.
>>2420345The team for this site (not just the mod team, the ENTIRE SITE TEAM) is nothing but a barebones skeleton crew. There's not enough mods to cover even this board, much less the whole site.
This place is on its way out.
>>2420357Eg is love
Eg is life
>>2420374GeoEGGrge Lucas
Stephen ColbEGG
Jim MorisEGG
>>2420390>>2420392eg is beyond, beyond, beyond
Cruise beyond
Cruise me
Egg >>2420363>>2420364Despite your effort you cannot sow disbelief in Marxism-Leninism. Your denial subliminally reinforces your selfishness, ameriKKKan. Imperialists like Cpusa anon and AK make explicit imperialist apologetic. Even now you absolve yourself, ameriKKKan, when your obese hands are soaked in blood. The infallible science of marxism-leninism defies your repeat assertions that ameriKKKans have no culpability. Apology is nothing but asking an ameriKKKan for nothing is asking far to much. I ask the minimum—stop responding negatively to Communist anti-imperialists and recognize that however slight your negative responses to anti-imperialism is monopolist, capitalist thought
>>2420382You ask me to ask a shark to give up its teeth. You ask me to ask a tick to donate blood. You fail to grasp the question at hand if you think ameriKKKan pigs can do something for anyone else aside from be slaughtered. Our "reasonable" and "leftist" imperialists who infest every ameriKKKan thread will demonstrate this readily every single time when challenged.
>>2420403You know that's the British Union of Fascists logo right? It's not a surprise youd like Bowie, given his political leanings and almost impossible whiteness.
Bowie used to drive around in a convertible sieg heiling in public and his only explanation for why he did it is that he used to do a lot of cocaine. His fascism was so severe and open that he inspired an entire social movement against fascism in rock. In other words, he's basically a leftypol poster if any of you had the courage to go outside.
>>2419789Fuck, is this true?
You ameritards are fucked in the head.
>>2419817I’m sorry that my unique eccentric writing style can be a bit difficult for you to understand, Comrade CPUSA anon, as I post like that because I feel it gives me a unique entertaining persona that compensates for the serious/depressing Material conditions of the Early 21st Century Global Capitalist-Imperialist System that I discuss in my posts, especially the grim realization that a Global Nuclear War is necessary to allow for a World Maoist PPW to create a Global USSR that will place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️! Out of pure curiosity, what aspects of my various In-Depth Dialectical Materialist Analysis Effort Posts do you disagree with the most, Comrade CPUSA anon, as I will state that I think you are too sympathetic/defensive of the U$ founding mythology, and that this sometimes can take on the appearance of implicitly excusing/downplaying U$ Settler-Colonialism, though I still respect that you do put a lot of effort into your arguments (and usually avoid the infantile ad hominem attacks that are all too common here) even if I strongly disagree with your conclusions, 🤔?
>>2420435>>2420430The true name of egg cannot be pronounced
If you do, the cosmos ends
>>2420444The fuck is up w americans calling everything semi-exotic culinary-wise "French"??
>french toast>french fries>french dressinguygha, these r just foods
>>2420453He won a Noble prize.
How many noble prize u won??
Thought so
>>2420464Hungarian here.
>french toastBundáskenyér, literally "coated bread."
>french friesSültkrumpli, literally "fried potatoes."
>french dressingVineigrette, but we don't eat that shit.
>>2420488Let me touch it (let me touch it)
Let me feel it (let me feel it)
Let me grab it (let me grab it)
That fat rabbit (fat rabbit, fat rabbit, fat rabbit
>>2420479Exactly. He is mid of the mid. Somehow, after he recieved the postumus Nobel prize we are to be loving and acknowledging him or some shit. The Bowie Nobel prize was to culture what was the Obam(n)a Nobel prize for politics.
It's pure and utter shit.
>>2420506Gun to my head, only fags who have no idea about prog rock ever came at me with Mars Volta. Like, Mars Volta is the nonce's idea of prog rock. I never liked em or cared for them. I actually developed my musical consumption, thank you very much.
And for comparison, the band "Gong" would be considered "meh" tier among prog rock fans, way, way, way above fucking Volta, whom'st is a nobody shit. They literally won't be recognized in 10 yrs.
>>2420516 (me)
He was like Stravinsky or Miles Davis in that his talent was in absorbing the musical zeitgeist like a sponge and then running it through the shredder of his own artistic personality
Like the Berlin trilogy is pretty great but if it was lent for krautrock bands like Neu! paving the way it just wouldn’t have existed
>>2420519Reject spam
Ascend to
egg >>2420452dude was photographed with literally EVERYBODY like the pedo version of forrest gump and I'm supposed to believe he
wasn't some kind of intelligence agent?
>>2420537EggSir, I'm trying so hard to egg myself, but i just simply eggify myself
Will you forgive me, egg jesus?
>>2420539My second fav burger band would be Cheer-accident. I hate how 60% of their albums filled with crap and the rest 40% is gold, but there you go.
I generally appreciate (avantgarde).
>>2420553Eggselent.
>fasciziation of burger SOYciety in my lifetimeJust eggselent
>>2420578you're thinking of Customs and Border Patrol. Those are the guys who run into cartel at the border. And usually they don't get ventilated. In fact. CBP are the guys who like selling guns to the cartel and buying drugs from them. That's why "muh strong borders" is a reactionary grift in this country. They're not actually stopping people. They're just exacerbating the reasons people flee here in the first place.
ICE don't patrol the border. They show up at construction sites and schools and churches to find brown guys to deport.
>>2420572In the early 2000s Jeffrey got wind some investigation was going on, so thru some former Colombian president who knew Fidel - he had mediated between the Colombian government and FARC at some point - he managed to get an audience with him. Apparently he may have been interested in taking refuge in Cuba if he ever got in trouble in America. I don't know if he feared his pedoing was being uncovered or possibly he may have been in some kind of trouble with all his financial shenanigans - no one really knows what the fuck was going on with his wealth. Or maybe, being an expert in financial tricks, he thought he could leverage his skills and propose to Fidel some kind of scheme helping Cuba to evade economic sanctions in exchange for a percentage on the profits of those kinds of operations. Some others said he could have possibly proposed to share some of his kompromat on American notables with Fidel, in exchange of the possibility of making profitable investments in Cuba.
Apparently nothing turned out of that and in early 2008, when he was facing his first - and only, and farcical - trial, he travelled to I$raHell and contemplated applying for citizenship there to never get back to America while being shielded from any extradition request. In the meantime, he was visiting "scientific" institutions connected to the local military-industrial complex - he had always had an interest for science and technology and we know he was quite generous with some well known scientists.
Even in that case, the thing didn't go thru, this time because he was offered the infamous deal of getting like 18 months to serve in a way that looked like a kind of long holiday so he decided to take it and once the clown show was over, he was again a free man and people like Bill Gates and Prince Andrew even paid him visits to his notorious Manhattan townhouse.
>>2420522>The PSL is known for doing this. They make fake organizations that are offshoots of themselvesI mean this is the typical thing that ML parties do. They usually operate through mass orgs, and the way cadre rank up is through experience leading mass orgs.
>>2420433>David Bowie is by far the whitest man to have ever lived. Seriously, it's not even close. David Bowie was one of those English singers like Rick Astley who is so incredibly white when you look at him but he sang and danced uncannily like a black man which creates a humorous effect. Except Bowie is treated like some world genius in music for some strange reason.
>>2420446>He likes the chocolate thoAll I know about her is that she played a shapeshifter in one of the Star Trek movies.
>>2420572Fidel was crushing some 14yrs old pussy. There, I said that.
Will you moralstic protestant anglo purists get the fuck off of his tail now?!
As if the fucking "legitimacy" of the Cuban revolution hinged upon your burger anti-pedo detection systemz.
>>2420540To be fair, I once saw a picture of
an old boomer from some "cultural organisation" tied to the main trade union in Italy with him standing close to Fidel, with Fidel actually putting an hand on the guy's shoulder in a friendly way. The main point of that "organisation" is to have aging creepy union functionaries travel to Cuba with all expenses paid to try their luck with local younger women. After they fucked the Italian workers, they also wanted to do that with some señorita hermosa en La Habana… How do I know? I went to a large flat where the old sod was living on weekdays to do a cleaning job a couple of times more than a decade ago. Btw, obv the flat was also all expenses paid and the fucker lived in another town where he spent his weekends. All that considered, you could say Fidel was very in for taking a picture with virtually anyone.
>>2420572Joke: he had a project he wanted to share with Fidel. Turning Cuba into La Isla Lolita. Fidel just told him to fuck off.
>>2420638I once wrote an 1000 pages long essay in High School on Kalevala, the Finnish folk tale about how the wrorld works and shit. Turns out, in the Finnish folk view the world was shat out as auygh. The sun is the yolk, and yadda yadda.
Got an A+ on that essay, but I think that the fins are quite alright: the world is, and always was, a eg
>>2420593>I mean this is the typical thing that ML parties do. They usually operate through mass orgs, and the way cadre rank up is through experience leading mass orgs.Aren't they actually some kind of trots - Marcyites, possibly? - with, let's say, "ML-characteristics"? I have to say that if going up the ranks is measured on their success as real world organisers, at least they do something, unlike the countless of other trot groups that are just student book clubs - and very boring ones.
>David Bowie was one of those English singers like Rick Astley who is so incredibly white when you look at him but he sang and danced uncannily like a black man which creates a humorous effect. Except Bowie is treated like some world genius in music for some strange reason.I guess Bowie gets the genius treatment because
1. he pulled some undisputable bangers in his career
2. he had that "art school boy" thing about him that he played skilfully and so the press and critics helped him to fit a very particular niche of being both "cool" as in "alternative" kind of cool but at the same time also broadly popular and successful.
Rick Astley, on the other hand, is a very different character. He's from oop norf, technically has a better voice than Bowie - and many others - and a very soulful one. He belongs to a much later generation than Bowie, like he came out in the middle to late eighties. I guess some modernised form of "blue eyed soul" was popular in England back then - think about Simply Red, but also Wham! and George Michael as a solo having a soulful vocal style - and that was very succesfull internationally. But that was straight pop, no "artsy" things, no partnerships with some edgy, alternative, American drugged-up proto-punk singers like Iggy Pop or Lou Reed in Berlin, mixing up literary suggestions with tons of heroine. I have to say Astley has also an everyman appeal and comes across as approachable. Recently, like on New Year 2024 he hosted and sung on a show for the BBC and he aced it. And nowadays, everyone growing up in the 2000s or later know him for the Rickrolling thing, which he embraced without any pretentiousness. On the other hand, Bowie had to be edgy from time to time. Once he commented about the Let's Dance album, which was very succesful, that basically was "Nile's stuff", meaning credit for it had to be given to producer Nile Rodgers but not to him, because fundamentally it was too pop and catchy, as it was a negative, and Rodgers understandably took umbrage at that comment. Also, Bowie expressed displeasure at the fact "the same people that like Phil Collins" were listening to his music in the eighties.
>All I know about her is that she played a shapeshifter in one of the Star Trek movies.She used to be a popular model, with many acting credits too. I remember her in a Miami Vice episode with a very sinister twist which, if I remember correctly, is one of the few ones where the main characters are not facing the usual drug cartels from Bolivia or Colombia.
>>2420598For me, the important thing is that it is tight and well lubricated. That said, I'll tell you a secret: inside, all pussies are the same colour regardless of what colour is the skin of the women around those pussies. And in my opinion that's a winning argument against racism. It's the silver bullet or, if you will, the pink one.
>>2420659>>2420650Yes the CIA is heavily involved in all "avant-garde" music and media, I am glad you noticed. They use it as a weapon against Communism, and they do so for good reason.
CIA sponsored commodities are objectively inferior, in both a musical sense and a moral and spiritual sense, to real music.
>>2420665The CIA traveled back in time to artificially inseminate Pablo Picasso and Dmitri Shostakovich
Truly, the treachery of the anti-egg knows no bounds
>>2420658>Certified proof you are ItalianI see I'm slowly but firmly re-establishing my reputation. I'm glad about that.
>>2420661Thanks for the clarification. I remember reading something about that. And, I mean, I guess his approach makes sense most of the times, instead of splitting the hair - and consequently splitting the orgs - on what Marx/Engels/Lenin/Stalin/Trotsky/Mao/MrBean would have thought about country X or Y quoting some obscure sentence from some possibly incorrectly translated article by some of them.
>>2420665>>2420665I know u r an American cuz your lack of knowledge of art history, lol. Like, you understand that avantgarde came to be as a movement due to experiences of world wars right? You also understand that avantgarde is/was a response to unbearable conditions while affirming an alternative future, right? You also understand that avantgarde is intrinsically a Modernist movement, by default opposed to post-modernism, right?;
So, since we are on the same page, could you write off that shitty CIA-backed whatever project? That would be so nice, THANKS!
t. actual reader
>>2420680Heck! I knew it!
>>2420682It would have been objectively moral to send that dumb cunt to the gulag for life.
Prove me wrong.
Protip: you can't. >>2420685I would send Ayn Rand to the gulag because it would be funny and pleases me. You would send them because you are compelled by morals to do so.
We are not the same.
>>2420686That was funded by the CIA
t. understander
>>2420690>XenakisMy personal poison is Schnittke.
Sue me.
>>2420705I remember when I was an undergrad, I pirated a lot of music off file-sharing forums and soulseek, and I found Schnittke's 2nd symphony.
I slapped that shit in my iPod, took a walk around the neighborhood and the first movement is burned in my brain forever
>>2420706>bad ppl did bad things to bad you, 10000%I have constructed a capability to discern shit music from good music.
You following me?
>>2420717This is what I told your mum while I was fucking her last night.
With my penis and shit
>>242072910/10
Did you know, btw, that bartók, while living aboard, said that he is unwilling to return to his home country IF they had streets named after fascists?
This néger really did that while he was fatally-homesick. His anti-fascism was stronger than his home-sickness.
>>2420123prove it
what animal was used by an 8chan /pol/ OP visitor on a regular basis to ask questions
>>2420665Socialist Realism sucked ass bro, get over it. If the CIA did anything right in all their history it was funding people like Jackson Pollock over fucking paintings of politicians and farmers.
You'll never be the People's Culture Commissar.
>>2420756Lmao it's self described bourgeois monarchist and Zionist who made music that was, by its own admission, not designed to be listened to.
This could be the only person persecuted by the Nazis who deserved it.
>>2420768 (reassured)
You are very loved and respected. You are an intelligent and lovable person.
>>2420665it's very well known that the philosophical current of
post-modernism, and the art, music, and any other expression derived from it, was financed by the CIA.
The key point of post-modernism was that there wasn't an unique truth, nothing is true, because all is subjective.
It shares a lot with the US education system build around the philoso-pedagogical worldview of
relativism, and despite all the pseudo-rivalry there was between post-modernism and relativism, the two shared a lot in common: nothing is essentially true (don't answer that the sun is green, or else you get a D-), and that's what's prime in the general education in liberal arts, sociology, etc. creating a lot of anti-scientific thought, and similar harmful understanding of the world.
>>2420655>I have to say that if going up the ranks is measured on their success as real world organisers, at least they do something, unlike the countless of other trot groups that are just student book clubs - and very boring ones.I mean "mass org" is probably more aspirational in a lot of cases. I've only seen the PSL around and they always kept a certain distance from other left-wing orgs. I think part of the negative reputation among local activist scenes is because it's a one-way street with them. They want to do their own thing and don't tend to form coalitions.
But the mass org thing is how I've understood Leninism for awhile, and it tracks with my experience. And I think historically that it how cadres would rise up the ranks. It's not really about communists leading communists, or necessarily about going out and "preaching" communism to people, it's getting in with the masses and participating in their spontaneous struggles (in 1917 that was crystallized in "peace," "land," and "bread") and getting them maneuvering in the right direction. Also cadres can't simply be created by filling their heads with the right ideas, they have to be tested. A vanguard party leads, and it has to have
something to lead. So by working in
other organizations, cadres gain a lot of experience in leadership and organizing skills, which is what you're going to need if we ever have a revolution. It's a ruthlessly logical way to eye at power and something I like about Leninism. That's why these groups try to find ways of participating in mass movements even if they don't have any real chance of influencing things. It's good experience.
Part of the issue too is that if you're trying to organize something in a reactionary town whether a trade union or during the civil rights movement, showing up and being like "we need a communist revolution!" is not what you want to do. That's what provocateurs do to wreck the movement. But then the right would call mass orgs "communist front groups" which makes it sound more menacing or whatever.
> I guess some modernised form of "blue eyed soul" was popular in England back then - think about Simply Red, but also Wham! and George Michael as a solo having a soulful vocal style - and that was very succesfull internationally … Also, Bowie expressed displeasure at the fact "the same people that like Phil Collins" were listening to his music in the eighties.Right. I was thinking of Bowie doing that kind of stuff at the time. "Modern Love."
>Iggy Pop or Lou Reed in BerlinI'm auyghy Pop fan but I can't stand Lou Reed. These are purely subjective whims. Dude simply cannot carry a tune at all. Iggy has at least crazy monkey chimpout energy.
>On the other hand, Bowie had to be edgy from time to time.That makes sense. Then he started making industrial music.
>>2420787>>2420778You two are idealistic faggots. Culture shapes minds so fuck you everyone controls it in some shape or form. Hence why epstein is such a scandal.
Fucking inbred imbeciles.
>>2420798Lucky for you I read russian.
>Provincial CPSU chapter of Nikolaev Oblast of Ukrainian SSR.>Control over what songs are played in disco youth clubsYou know what this is?
A FUCKING NUTHINGBURGER.
A LOCAL PARTY SECRETARY MAKING RULES FOR SCHOOL DISCO CLUBS YOU DUMB FAGGOT.
>>2420807Thanks for the shitty machine translation. Nonetheless I am fucking right.
Also, chargeable is the wrong word here since it implies criminally charges when the original word is "Tariffed" i.e. you had to charge royalties for the songs and hence to be avoided to save money.
>>2420815because the CIA financed the
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congress_for_Cultural_Freedom CCF, for the reason I expressed above:
>>2420786it's all against what represent the underlaying philosophical basis of communism, a.k.a. dialectical-
materialism.
post-modernism, and any other subjective philosophies are what the CIA loves.
>>2420786>it's very well known that the philosophical current of post-modernism, and the art, music, and any other expression derived from it, was financed by the CIA.Do you understand the fact that avantgarde has nothing to do with pomo? Do you understand that avantgarde predated pomo by like a century?
Do you lack and/or have more chromosomes than necessary? Do you understand how bad this makes you look?
You wanna be "that" guy?
You are being it.
>>2420847And who goes to the discos?
>It's their property Spooky. No wonder the youth embraced perestroika and liberalism if all the leaders were no fun allowed old farts.
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