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New thread, new reminder that CPUSAnon is an admitted national socialist and his party is both Zionist and bourgeois democratic.

>>2420834
>first thing he posts in the thread is obsessing over CPUSAanon

Bro just ask him to suck your dick already

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You faggots should learn how to be professional meat packers.
Learn how to pack
>Faggots
>Chuds
>Leftychuds
>MAGAfucks
>ICEfags
>Otherfags

Anyways.
I shot an ICE fag today.

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so is this ginjeet, did i remember this correctly

>>2420842
Is that the new Assassin's Creed?

>>>>Avantgard was created by the ancient CIA. The Jesuits
This was funni

Deepseek is a better conversationalist

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>communism is when you vote with your wallet.
Trvth Nvke. If nobody buys anything for a week, the entire capitalist system collapses and we get communism. Simple as.

>>2420841
>I shot an ICE fag today.
if true you have officially done more than any larper here and I kneel

>>2420842
Did you just chat up on matrix with your mod "friends" and now suddenly started to "remember" in this inane contest of who's an oldfagger?

>>2420848
I haven't done much, but hey at least it's honest work.

>>2420850
no, i'm the oldest one there too lmao

this is my flag

>>2420844
What's the Jesuits?

>>2420852
Get your own spurdo faggot.
Go use snibeti snab.
That's an order or I will shoot you too like I shot the ice agent.
with a water pistol
he was my dad
i am disappointed with him, but he is my dad. Love you pops, even if you worship hitler

>>2420853
It's like a special club for closeted gay men who are so into Jesus (pronounced: hesus) that they fucking torture themselves and so it happened that they sided with fascism every time whence capital became a thing.

Got questions?

>>2420846
>>2420846
>If nobody buys anything for a week, the entire capitalist system collapses and we get communism. Simple as.
Akahually it's 18 months*

>>2420854
i also made the 4th int flag which is why it looks like garbage lmao

i still want the anarcho-authoritarian flag back

>>2420856
>18 months
I GOTCHU

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>>2420842
You may all be wondering why my GOAT looks insane and mentally unwell, that's just how Hungarians look in thier natural environment.

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>>2420864
Lay down your weapons
it's not too late for my mercy

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>>2420855
So this faggot?

>>2420861
President Xi… Fire when ready.

ginjeet i sincerely hope you stop your drinking because it seems like it's actually making you mentally unwell

you used to only get like this once in a while but you've been at this for literally weeks now

did you get fired? that one thread about how to survive as a factory prole had me kinda wondering and i heard you drank to death before that

>>2420870
ZHENGJIU WOMEN BA, XI ZHUXI

>>2420871
whenever i talk to someone on here and they're insanely accusatory, belligrent, unreasonable, overconfident, etc. I assume they're either a /pol/ troll, a derailing fed, or a raging alcoholic

>>2420872
>AI art is fasci-

RE: Bartók's anti-fascism
>One thing that is very clear is Bartók’s anti-fascism. He loathed the Nazis and he was tormented by his own country’s increasing collaboration with the Third Reich. As Otto Deri wrote in Bela Bartók: A Portrait of His Personality Drawn from His Letters, Bartók observed the rise of fascism in 1930s Europe with profound alarm. In 1937 he refused to visit Italy. “My hatred for Italy has been so intense of late that I am simply unable to set foot on the soil of that country,” he wrote in a letter to a friend. “This might seem to be an exaggerated viewpoint, but I would like not to be disturbed, at least during my vacation, by Italian aggressiveness. I was told, however, that the Nazi poison has already penetrated into Austria, but at least there it is not so much in evidence.”

>The violist Dénes Koromzay, a member of the renowned Hungarian String Quartet, said that Bartók was “one of the most direct and outspoken men in the world” and “made such strong anti-Nazi statements that he would have been the first to be picked up by the Gestapo when they came, or even by the Hungarian Nazis when they eventually came into power”. By 1940, it was clear that Bartók could not remain in Hungary.

>>2420873
I am often a raging alcoholic on here. Somtimes I finish like half a handle of liquor in a sitting. I've blackout posted in here before off the booze. I think I only get into it with the belligerent retards tho. Sometimes I'm just like, you know what, fuck it, let's finish him, instead of my usual "this doesn't matter, none of it matter." Right now I'm on RC ketamine, RC benzo, alcohol, weed and booze. I've been liking this ket and benzo, never took ket at all before, and benzos only like 1 or twice, but I've been disappointed, they're nice, but I can't say I can justify the price at all. Very weak, but nice. I finished like half of this $60 bottle of ketamine in one day and I don't think I got very high at all, I don't even have a hint of what this mysterious k-hole is. I'm hestitant to go to ham on the benzo after I've heard all the bizarre blackout stories and /r/bartard stories but it has not hit me hard at all.

>>2420861
it'd be a shame if some accident were to happen in those substations.

>>2420875
Somehow, this makes the late works more poignant

>be terminally ill and broke in New York City because staying in Hungary would have gotten you a one-way ticket to the camps

>you feel deeply homesick
>you've cranked out masterpiece after masterpiece, but the general public in the US doesn't give a shit, only your colleagues in the new music world care
>write music that screams "Fuck you, I'm still here!"
>Live just long enough to see the Nazis eat shit

Bartok must have died with a smile on his face knowing he outlived his enemies

>>2420842
thela hun ginjeet?

Bartók was on the Hungarian Socialist Republics highest currency denomination, the thousand Forint.

>>2420882
Exactly

>>2420882
Heat in the jungle

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>>2420884
More applicable bill

>>2420882
7/8 time signature

>>2420892
>Discipline
>Bible Black
>Euphoria
>Starless
Why did it took me so long to realize that the name of all those fucked up hentai are all King Crimson references?

>>2420884
If you dig around on Soulseek, you can find flac rips of the old Hungaroton Complete Bartok Edition from the 70s

When it comes to the orchestral stuff I'm pretty partial to Boulez and Fricsay. There's a new recording (new-ish, 2021) of Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta and the Concerto for Orchestra with Susanna Malkki conducting the Helsinki Philharmonic and it's pretty great

>>2420897
I have to imagine that a lot of mangaka are counterculture nerds


>>2420901
Oh shit, Rutracker. I used to have an account there. I think it's still active

I don't know what the fuck to do at this point. Hunker down and wait for ICE to come for the dissenters? Keep looking for a job in a market that has none? An hero?

>>2420901
>You should pay me
Classic African

Osi bisa!!

>>2420897
its the other way around


>>2420912

Whoa, now this is a find! Thanks

>>2420904
>I don't know what the fuck to do at this point.
I'm with you there, though I do have a job, I just hate it. I just don't know what to do about the world going to hell.


>>2420855
Idk bro Pope Francis was a Jesuit and he was pretty chill all things considered.

>the gipsy is eating cottage cheese
(literal fuken title) by Kodály.

Vidrel is (oppressive, totalitarian, 1984ish, animal farm-like) socialist Hungary


>>2420855
>They sided with fascism every time
<Adolf Hitler was anticlerical and had particular disdain for the Jesuits. According to John Pollard, the Jesuits' "ethos represented the most intransigent opposition to the philosophy of Nazism",[206] and so the Nazis considered them as one of their most dangerous enemies. A Jesuit college in the city of Innsbruck served as a center for anti-Nazi resistance and was closed down by the Nazis in 1938
<Jesuits were a target for Gestapo persecution, and many Jesuit priests were deported to death camps.[208] Jesuits made up the largest contingent of clergy imprisoned in the Priest Barracks of Dachau Concentration Camp
?????

>>2420928
The jesuits sided with Franco and all the time with anti-communist plants in latam.

What is with the drug war? Why is it a crime to feel good? Alcohol is a way worse drug than any that have been illegalized. I've heard bizzare horror stories about these benzos but I really don't know. Maybe I need to try next some prescription Xanax or something, but maybe you guys are just retards. Look how many tragedies happen off alcohol. Just legalize all drugs. If everyone had access to potent drugs of their choosing, there would be no need for intra-venous injection which is the most horrible form of drug usage. Never fucking puncture your fucking veins you idiot. An anecdote: but my brother was paying to go to school to be a phlebotomist, and he quit after he saw how horribly the damage that phlebotomists do everyday to people's veins. Collapsing veins isn't a joke, but it is standard procedure for IV. Don't put fucking needles in your veins unless there is no other possible choice. Knocking off IV, there is still snorting/intranasal(your sensitive nasal tissues weren't made to be subject to such abuse, inhaling, or ingestion. Ingestion is by far the safest route, but the least absorbtion method, but then again, this wouldn't be a concern if people didn't have to sacrifice their livliehood to by a drug that could be bought for pennies without the war on drug bullshit.

>>2420922
Main uygha, Kodály at the end.

>>2420930
The War on Drugs was literally invented purely to oppress minorities and political enemies.

>>2420929
Jesuits are tolerant of abortion, homosexuality and liberation theology THOUGH.


>>2420933
Jesuits are also very fucking gay, tho

>>2420935
Being gay is based THOUGH EVER.

>>2420936
They are CLOSETED, RIGHT-WING type of gay, tho

>>2420882
Made my day, ngl

I'm all for open gays. However, I think closeted gays need to be beaten with a stick untill die.

The same should apply to suspected (but unconfirmed) heteros.

No, I will not explain.
No

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>>2420946
But of course, you soyboys science guys, are immune from physical reality, so t his doesn't effect you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soy_boy

Sry

Kinda dawning on me, how many of the people if the ACAB ACAB didn't exit today, how many would get robbed for all their possessions and be turned into human slaves, or dead. Like what time do you think it is. You do know what time it is. You know the soyboys rules the world with their mathematical calculations of nuclear fission an ballistic trajectories. I understand it. God damn it. Just own up to it bitch. Why not be be balls to the wall, I mathematicallyt know all the calculations to exterminate you. That shit is hard/

>>2420954
U have the mental illness

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>>2420954
Nerds are the kings of this world. Get yours. Stunt on them.

>>2420957
How am I insane and how are you sane. It's a very sticky issue but you feel very confident about it. I am open ears.

>>2420946
Bro drop google and start using duck.go or Yandex. Google has been unhelpful at best for years and all the recent forced AI bullshit was the final nail in the coffin for me.

>>2420959
I didn't even imply that I was sane.

>>2420961
>Yandex
This. RuZZia for the win

I'm like a half way nerd half-way chad. I need to link up with nerds. I'm not playing no games. I can get you whatever physical biological female shit you want. Just give me my money and let's go get it. Anything you want. Let's make them numbers flow and we'll all be happy.

>>2420961
Yandex is absolute shit. Just run by some zionists/jews who filter even harder than google. Yandex is probably also run by Russian Jews but I often use it as an alternative.

>>2420965
I mean duck duck go is absolute shit run by American Jews.

>>2420966
Yandex is proably just run by Russian Jews. It's a Jew world and you're just living in it.

>>2420965
Yandex has a very good image search function, like old google before they replaced it with the shitty ass Google Lens. Best of all is that it works with people's faces so you can find sauce on porn videos with it.

>>2420968
fuck off coomer

>>2420861
This video is so retarded clickbait only a cope leftypoler could post it

>>2420973
Explain why he's wrong

>>2420961
You have to go out of your way to find fucking Wikipedia results on Google now. They really fell off.

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>>2420975
wikipedia actually sucks ass and is full of compromised glowie mods and cliqueish editors and massive asymmetrical rule enforcement. But yeah. It's probably still Not Reactionary Enough for the powers that be.

Being a square is so lame. To think you could be getting high off a cocktail of drugs a s prescribed by soyence. To think, we worked over 1000s of years of chemistry and biology to give you better chemicals than alcohol and tobacco. WAY BETTER drugs, but you are all useless robotic faggots who do whatever these millions of masses of society tell you to do to be like them.


If you are a real tea-toatler, you'll never know

>>2420977
Just do weed or Ayahuasca if you need a harder introspective experience bro. No need to fucking destroy your body and mind with shit like meth or heroin.

>>2420977
I mean, what is the aim of your psychotropic, psychoactive medication.

>>2420977
I smoked weed and occasionally tripped in my teens/twenties and it was fun but then I had to get my shit together for work/school and also my body started aging. I'll still probably trip on something once every 5-10 years maybe once my kid is older.

>>2420975
>inb4 the powerful group is
<RUSSSHEAAA controlling the UK.

>>2420979
We need all drugs. Meth an heroine were bad. I have bizarre memoirs like my father coming to me in the middle of my 12 year old school days to give me my dexys.

>>2420983
Hardest stuff I've tried is coke, not proud of it. Expensive as hell and felt like absolute shit all the time. I think I'll stick with the occasional joint and DXM trip.


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>>2420985
Coke, amphetmaines, crack, it's all the same shit. I've done them all. I started befroe I hit puberty by prescription. I tried and flush that amphetamine poison down the toilet and got caught by my parents. No one ever forced you to take stims. I haven' taken them in years but I kind of wonder if it would potentially fix me now.

>>2420985
I never snorted coke, but I smoke crack and I did snort meth. Stims is whatever. Just get your stims in the most efficient least destructive manor.

Osama Bin Laden

Hah hah

>>2420989
>Coke, amphetmaines, crack, it's all the same shit. I've done them all. I started befroe I hit puberty by prescription. I tried and flush that amphetamine poison down the toilet and got caught by my parents. No one ever forced you to take stims. I haven' taken them in years but I kind of wonder if it would potentially fix me now.
>I haven' taken them in years
I smoke some crack with some hobos in New Orleans and they were telling me I wasn't torching it right, but I think I probably got a total of good hits all things considered and it wasn't shit. It's all fugazi.

>>2420989
My best friend blames me for getting him hooked on speed.

Story: we tried it out a few times, I was paying. I never even considered speed as habit forming, or whatever.

This nüggah is now living in another country and tells his new friends that I "made him" addicted. To this day I've not shmorked a single line of speed. Don't have it, don't need it, don't want it. Fucker is a daily user, tho. Like, he's hooked, big(ly) time.

Dunno why I'm writing this post. I'm guess it hurts my feefees that this fucker blames me for "making him hooked," while in fact all I did was try the stuff out with him.

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>>2420965
>Just run by some zionists/jews
like literally Google? kek.
>who filter even harder than google
BS. Yandex is in fact so trash filtering, it doesn't filter at all.
you could land either on a god forsaken website, full-bot written blog, or full-ridden virus page.
that's how I found bunkerchan, back in 2014.

>>2420992

>Least destructive manor


9/11

>>2420999
>Dunno why I'm writing this post.
Becaue I am going to fucking say fuck the motherfucker. Stiums are cool, but you never forced them him because you were introduced to them. I was literally forced on them because it would help me with my schooling by my parents while I was a wee child.

>>2421000
>Yandex is in fact so trash filtering, it doesn't filter at all.
That's good, actually

>>2421000
Oh my bad, I mean duckduck go was what I was saying Yandex us. Yandex is the only non Western-poszzed Western-accessible search engine.

>>2421002
Dunno what stiums are, but I guess since u and I are having this convo, I might as well share more, in a similar vein.

My ex gf, I offered her a cig, back in the day. She's now a chain smorker who blames me for "making her hooked on the stuff."

I guess there's a tendency of weak-willed ppl getting hooked on shit and blaming the person who introduced them to it as "muh making me hooked."

I just hate ppl in general.

All you fags need to do good drugs. Alcohol and Marijauna are without question. If you don't have alcohol and thc rattling around in your brain right now, I don't know what to tell you. You need drugs desperately. Go get you some alcohol. Trying to supplant alcohol for all superior drugs is surely detrimental, but it's still a great drug and an absolute fail-safe in this drug war world.

>>2421008
I'm borderline alcoholic and think that alcohol is a shit-tier drug. I've tried like 28 different drugs (I counted, once), and I know.

Weed is also a shit-tier drug imo

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lmao y'all watched the new South Park?

>>2421007
>Dunno what stiums are
Stims, short for stimulants.

>ut I guess since u and I are having this convo, I might as well share more, in a similar vein.


>My ex gf, I offered her a cig, back in the day. She's now a chain smorker who blames me for "making her hooked on the stuff."


hyper homosexual shit. My girls were all smokers, but that is besides the point. Fuck what these whores say about anything, it's not rel;event to you or them. By being a pussy you are not only disappointing yourself but also them.

>I guess there's a tendency of weak-willed ppl getting hooked on shit and blaming the person who introduced them to it as "muh making me hooked."

I think the majority don't look at it like that. The y were probably introduced to one substance, and then got int o a dozen substances, who is to say that one substance was what did them in.


>I just hate ppl in general.

I'm with you and not. I think I really stoop to interact with these lowly animals. Like literally interacting with a dog or some other animal and I'm shaping my interactions an consciousness after how much a 1000x lower order animal reacts to me. I rather not humor that they are on the same level of consciousness as me and I can not insult them or interfere with them. We can both go our separate ways with no interference.

>>2421012
No, absolutely wrong. In all places where weed is legal, it is by far the most cost-effective drug way above alcohol.

when i was younger i snuck one of my dads beers and immediately spit it out. I dont know how people can get addicted to that shit. Only time i drank alchol after that is when i watered it down with soda.

Also one time i did downers, and i slept for 20 hours straight

tried weed a couple of times.

but besides that im pretty straight edge.

my addiction is food i guess
t. fatty

>>2421014
>made me look award

>>2421015
>hyper homosexual shit
Kekked, ngl

>>2421017
DXM is ketamine-lite and a vial costs little over a dollar in my country. Pharmacies don't even ask for a prescription.

>>2421017
Still shit-tier tho

>>2421021
Que? What are you talking about fag? If you want some weird hypersxual mao homo shit, I will literally split your dick and balls off of our body forever and that's that.

>>2421018
That escalated predictably


There was this basic ass game on Linux where you went from city to city, bought some drugs here and there and sold it at a higher price.

Just reminiscing

>>2421026
I'm open to volunteers. I will do very human surgical removals of testicles and penii.

>>2421030
Very LGBTQ of you

Latest Chapo ep was one of the worst I've heard

>>2421038
>>>/isg/

>>2421038
Ironically the only way to institute the democratic changes to the constitution proposed in that episode would be military coup

>>2421023
>Still shit-tier tho
What is a better drug? I'v tried, metha, crack, I have never fucked with no IV drugs but I've done opiates. It's all so dumb. Just let people do their drugs.

I get not liking weed by itself, but for me if it’s mixed with either alcohol, caffeine, or psychedelics it’s like peanut butter and chocolate

>>2421046
Weed, alcohol, and tobacco are just a given. I do those everyday. I'm not going to add a fourth drug and stop doing those.

>>2421049
Psychedelics are a nice break from alcohol but they require a clear schedule unless you’re doing DMT or Salvia

>>2421043
Yes

>>2421045
LSD

>>2421046
Simply, it's a dumb ass fucking drug.
>le hehe, le haha
"K"

Being a square is the lamest shit in the world. I member my grandma, who was a tea-toatler, talking about her son, my uncle, who died of cirrhosis of the liver, she said: "I don't know why he couldn't handle his alcohol." Just handle your shit faggot. Don't OD and don's cause a scene and there is nothing more to be said. Legalize it.

>>2421051
>LSD
I do my LSD RCs too. I was originally looking for my RC LSD and Mescaline and then got off into a tengent of benzos and ketamine. Mescaline is by far the most bang for the buck. I lost my last bag of allyescaline before I finished it.


>>2421045
>What is a better drug?
2cb…join the Nexus 🪸

>>2421058
Maybe. I'm trying to get some 4-mmc next or maybe I'll go back to the pharma system and get some dextroamphetamines.

Why are we not allowed to have drugs freely, the single greatest invention of mankind ever?

every Zionist propagandist who the GHF follows on Twitter should be held accountable for their war crime genocide incitement

https://xcancel.com/MosabAbuToha/status/1950270141054201876

Right now I am high on. 2-Fluorodeschloroketamine, pyraxolam, ethanol, and delta-9/thca/ nicotine./ And I have paid way too much for all of them and I'm not even high.

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>>2421062
that's fuckin bleak

>>2421063
Ehh you fags. What drugs you on? I'm candid aren't I?

Presinald Trunt

>>2421078
Keep in mind, whenever you read a first world faggot, especially on this site, especially, the liberal/leftist type, there is almost a guarantee they are on psychotropic medication in every single post they write.

>>2421080
>there is almost a guarantee they are on psychotropic medication
I mean I'm serious. Just ask them "what psychotropic medication did you take today?" I guarantee you the answer won't be none.

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>>2421080
Sneed.

I kind of have an idea that socialism is necessarily self-exploitive and even more intensely alienating and desire-producing than capitalism.

>>2421082
>Sneed.
Wut


>I kind of have an idea that socialism is necessarily self-exploitive and even more intensely alienating and desire-producing than capitalism.

How does your graph show that?

>>2421082
>desire-producing
subsistence meets needs. production for use produces subsistence. Socialism is production for use.

Desires are produced through social means, like advertising.

>>2421081
>>2421080
I'm not on anything but I'm built different.

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You know, my uncle died off alcohol, until he was fdound in his home reeking by the mail man, before that, he worked for Apple in the 90s in retainers and shit. He was an engineer. He had a plaque up at Whistle Stop in Pasadena, I member my middle school bro recounrint about witnessing Gary Oldman at the shop. He also worked on the flight controls on air force one, who cares. He drank himself to death until he was found stanking by the mail man when I was 6 years old.

Dying from drug use, whether legal or illegal, is for faggots. I remember what his mom, my grandmas said to me" "I just don't know why he couldn't handle his liquor." She was a tea-totaller, he was raised in a teatotaller religion, my mother is still a tea-toatler, but she is now an agnostic/atheist, but she is still a tea-toatler, but her sister who is still in the religion now drinks. Kill people, burn shit, fuck school.

>>2421087
That's good, I'm not anti-drug, but I'm anti-submitting to the med-compliance regimen of the government.

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>Be American
>Save up enough money to buy a house in the suburbs and not have to rent anymore
>Finally, I can enjoy true American freedom!

>>2421092
rule 1: never live in an HOA

>>2421092
>shot for tall grass
lmfao

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>>2421097
>*unloads rifle into man*
>hands up lol

>>2421095
AND IM PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN WHERE ATLEAST I KNOW IM FREE

>>2421082
>people are desiring depression bro
to the gulag you go

>>2421089
Most people can't handle addictive substances so the best move for the average person is not to take the chance. You just think you are invincible because of survivorship bias.

>>2421092
>>2421097
What was the plan here? Shoot at the cops over mowing the grass and then what? If he somehow managed to kill them he would have to leave the house and get out of the country to survive anyway making sticking around the house pointless.

>>2421117
>Most people can't handle addictive substances so the best move for the average person is not to take the chance. You just think you are invincible because of survivorship bias.
Shouldn't the weak die? that natural sleection. I've known many idiots in HS who tragically died by "wrapping their car around t he tree" That's not my problem. That's there problem. Why are you against natural selections and evolution?

Reddy Colt - Wrapping My Car Around A Tree

>>2421118
Artificially made drugs and the social control over how those drugs are distributed and consumed are not part of the natural world. It's artificial selection process for trying to get people with certain types of livers which achieves what exactly?
Also most people who die from Cirrhosis of the liver are older and had plenty of chances to pass on their genes so using most addictive substances to ween people out doesn't do much.

>>2421122
Yeah, yeah yeah, I am not asking sympahty for my uncle engineer. Handle your shit like my dry grandmas said. Handles your bizzzness like my dry grandmas said. I'm still getting high on all the aforementioned drugs and my main concern is I've been wasting my money.

How many of your youngins have personally knowed who DIED . I know a couple. A lot of them lived such a short existence.

>>2421127
I mean as how sad and pathetic your eixstence on this earth, at least you're still drawing breath. Look on the bright side,

>>2420872
It gets funnier each time I watch it.

>>2421118
Man is sovereign over the forces of nature. Therefore it is rational to advocate in the best interest of the collective.

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I mean, our media just primes people to dirve recklessly in cars. It teaches nothing about TRACTION the single most important factor of driving. Don't let you find out wehat no traction and the traction control warning means.

I'm 36 years old and I've used pretty much every drug there is, and all of them are overrated imo, especially psychedelics. To any younger folks who are just starting to experiment with drugs, I would recommend skipping over weed and psychedelics and just go straight into opiates, it will save you a lot of wasted time and money that could be better spend on a much better high and, let's face it, it's where you're ultimately going to end up anyway.

>>2421144
Which opiates? Weed is just a staple like booze. I can't describe any other drug experience where I wasn't also high on weed an booze.I do that 24/7. I got some Kratom coming. I might fuck with some RV opiates maybe, but I try and stay away from the drugs that can kill you. BUT my experience benzos so far has been this is pussy shit. Besides the crazy blackouts they say you get seizures if you quit benzos cold turkey but I don't see it so far.

>>2421145
I would say the mescaline RC was the best bang for my buck in a way. I lost my packet of powder before I finished it. Nothing else came close, but I still liked my MAL.

>>2421146
>but I still liked my MAL.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methallylescaline
>Methallylescaline, abbreviated as MAL and also known as 4-methylallyloxy-3,5-dimethoxyphenethylamine, is a lesser-known psychedelic drug.[1] It is the 4-methyl analog of allylescaline. MAL was first synthesized by Alexander Shulgin. It has been sold as a designer drug.[3][4]

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>>2421144
I'm a 35 and I have done pretty much every drug there is. I haven't done , PCP, whatever hobo drugs like robotrippin or whatever. I've done, ritalin, destroamphetamine, methamphetamine, crack, galaxy gas, weed, benzos, ssris, anti-psychotics, hydrocodone, ativan, xanax, some other benzos, mescaline, shrooms, MDMA, uh right now the wtwo I mentioned RC Ket and RC benzo, oh and Salvia but anyways.

Do mescaline. That's the move. Just do mescaline. That's the drug. Everyone needs to do mescaline.

>>2421153
Oh yeah and I did LSD and LSD RCs, but still do mescaline. That's the move

>>2421153
No one abuses mescaline, because mescaline is the one that will spank you and show you what an asshole you are. You will feel shamed about how you treat people.

Lol

>>2421097
This just have escalated a lot before this video cause that's a swat truck

>>2421159
i don't see/hear any other police vehicles/officers. also i read that police has been militarized for two decades. but yeah, nothing to see, completely normal to be shot in your own house from tanks.

>>2421092
>>2421097
It's incredible people get worried about defunding the police when they have half a million dollar armored vehicles deployed at peoples suburban homes to deal with tall grass.

>>2421153
Speaking, having smoked crack on multiple occasions, the crackheads chastized me for not torching it right, but anyways, I still think I smoked a normal amount. I think that shit just made me feel straight, maybe it harkens back to me ADHD days when I was prescribed like 40mg amphetamines daily before I hit puberty, but that stim shit aint shit to me. I was smoking with this crack head hobo prostitute on the strteet and she would say about a "crack attack" after she hit, whatever that means. Me personally it just felt like extreme caffienation let's say but much better and clearer. No jitter. I think the danger with them the stims is they get you off the 24 hour sleep schedule. You can stay up for 36 48 72 hours and feel fine, but course that is not fine, and you are damaging your brain and body. They're too powerful, but if used responsibly are super powered.

>Code enforcement showed up because of reports of Bailey’s high grass that needed to be cut.

>"He comes out with a gun points it at him,” said Deputy Chief Chad Farmer. “He turns to walk away the suspect says don’t turn around or I’m going to kill you.”


>Deputy Chief Chad Farmer says it’s likely Bailey was having a mental health crisis.


>After code enforcement called police, they showed up with the Special Operations Team. Officers say they tried talking with Bailey, but say he kept opening and shutting his garage, refusing to come out.


>Police say Bailey pointed a gun at them.


>Officers shot him and Bailey’s accused of firing back.


>Bailey ultimately died.


>They also showed the bullet holes from the shots they say Bailey fired into their Bearcat.


>Both Sergeant Wilkins and Officer Johnson are on paid administrative leave.


https://www.kjrh.com/news/local-news/muskogee-police-release-body-camera-video-of-officer-involved-shooting


Pro-Trump group wages campaign to purge “subversive” federal workers
Federal employees faced a barrage of intimidation and harassment after a group linked to the Trump administration posted their personal information on online “watchlists” denouncing them as liberals. Some have been fired. Two have moved abroad, fearing for their safety.

https://www.reuters.com/investigations/pro-trump-group-wages-campaign-purge-subversive-federal-workers-2025-08-07/

>>2421174
that challenges my statement how? there was a dude with a gun, the tanks rolled in and they shot him.

guess you are a burger which is why you think this is normal

>>2421173
I can't but only feel warmth knowing that the burgers live and die in the society they have created.

>>2421181
I'm doing pretty good right now. How does that make you feel?

>>2420993
Is this real?

>>2420993
>English-speaker Bin Laden sounds like some hwite Midwest preacher

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Why are left wingers so narrow minded?

>>2421193
>Demonkkkrats
>Left
retarded "study" as expected from amerikkkans

>>2421193
Fascism level 1
Fascism level 2
Fascism level 3

Very diverse

>>2421195
>>2421194
There's the high autism score thought the left is famous for

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>>2421193
>>2421196
the nature of thought is that it abstracts many particulars into a single form, and abstractions are further made into universal principles. a diversity of thought thus shows sporadic particularity, rather than formal correctness. to a formal question like 1+1? there is only one answer, and thought is of one substance, which emanates from a singular being.

>>2421193
>Democrat
<Left
>Republican
<Right
The researchers are morons if this is really how they framed that study and this is not the fault of the journalists interpretation.

>>2421194
>>2421195
>>2421200
either one is correct or not - cease this competition to be "open-minded".

>>2421196
If you think the Democrats are left wing you are legitimately mentally retarded and should just avoid politics altogether because your brain is too tiny to understand anything at all.

>>2421214
If you don't think the democrats are a better representative of the left wing brain than republicans you are retarded. There's reason why discussions on this board are so fucking boring.

>>2421213
Wtf are you talking about?

>>2421213
we don't care about having open minds, because we're not liberals you idiot

>>2421218
>cries about being called narrow-minded
<we dont care about having open minds
sure

>>2421218
>my team good your team bad

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porky fight

>>2421193
1. Internal diversity of thought does not automatically equal more correct, that’s just right-wing virtue signaling

2. Like others pointed out, defining the “left” as democrats to the exclusion of socialists and anarchists is a pretty severe weakness in the study’s methodology

>>2421222
it's quite shrimple as that

>>2421223
lol why does he keep saying
>thank you for your attention!

>>2421193
>>2421222
i would say that the left often displays cult behaviour, which is why if you say a wrong thing you are automatically seen as the enemy (heretic) and excommunicated. the phenomena of "leaving the left" is part of this constriction where new rules are added and cannot be kept up with. the left is also much more censorious than the right for the same reason. its quite dualistic thinking. like many other religions, you have foundational scripture which do not need to be read yo have loyalty towards. thats why marx is used hermeneutically, like a theologian interpreting the bible.
>>2421225
so you expect the radical left to be more open or closed-minded than the democrats? anon's point is about how the left think more narrowly than the right, not any opinion in particular. he is right and this nitpicking and lack of reading comprehension is extremely irritating.

>>2421229
Because I’m disputing how this study is being used to frame the issue.

Diversity of thought is good and the left needs more, but going “uhhhhh right more diverse left is meanies” is just missing the forest for the trees.

You can have as much diversity as you want, it only matters if your side’s basic axioms aren’t dogshit. Otherwise it’s just the modern version of medieval monks debating how many angels can fit on the head of a pin: irrelevant yapping that does t solve anything

>>2421229
> i would say that the left often displays cult behaviour, which is why if you say a wrong thing you are automatically seen as the enemy (heretic) and excommunicated.

Anon, the right also does this CONSTANTLY. Acting like this isn’t a problem with politics in general is virtue signaling

>>2421229
>which is why if you say a wrong thing you are automatically seen as the enemy (heretic) and excommunicated.
Everyone does this shit.
It goes deeper than left or right.

>>2421193
>how many different kinds of torture should the police use on immigrants?
<waow the left all answered 0 such narrowmindedness

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Sad how everyone one leftypol wants to get into a 100 post debate about some image of a clickbait soycial soyence article that none of them have even read. Pathetic.

>>2421236
100 bucks says this guy posted it

>>2421231
the way to defeat your opponent is to inhabit their framing by appropriating it for your own use. thats what the "chad" meme is about:
>you are X haha
<yes, in fact. problem?
>>2421233
>virtue signalling
to whom?
>>2421232
>>2421234
who are some people that were kicked out of the right for not following orthodoxy? the right is not a consolidated mass, but a disparate grouping of anti-left opponents; they occupy a negative space, so cannot be disqualified from it. this is why metapolitics matters.

>>2421236
i already did and the paper was full of leading questions.

>>2421215
>no u
silence dog I bet you use AI to formulate your political opinions

>>2421237
>100 bucks says this guy posted it
Where is my 100 bucks? How do you want to send it? Venmo?

>>2421238
>loading the definition of “right” in bad faith
Yeah not buying it, left and right are both terms with substantive positive meanings

>to whom?

Fellow right-wingers and potential recruits. The headline is easy meme fodder

> the way to defeat your opponent is to inhabit their framing by appropriating it for your own use. thats what the "chad" meme is about

<muh memes are arguments

>>2421241
>he just admitted he’s stirring shit up in bad faith

>>2421238
Define what you mean by "kicked out".

>>2421244
I think you need to see a therapist(I know you already are, but more often, try a different one maybe)

>>2421238
>the right is not a consolidated mass
Also, neither is the left

here's how the paper basically gets its conclusion:
<how should teh geys be treated?
>full humen rights
>treated normally but no marry
>be descriminate aginst
>gill em all 1989 :DDDD

waw meny options such diversidy :DDD

>>2421247
>immediately jumping to meme response
Fuckin’ hell, these folks are boring/predictable

>>2421243
>left and right are both terms with substantive positive meanings
no theyre not. leftism is positively oriented, while the right is simply a negative reaction against the left. it has no internal principle, only opposition - thats why it can be so diverse, while the left is narrow.
>Fellow right-wingers and potential recruits.
who is right-wing here?
>muh memes are arguments
yes.
>>2421245
excommunicated for being a heretic
>>2421249
the left is much more narrowly bunched into fundamental principles

>>2421251
Because you are a predictable person. You know it's true.


>>2421060
Because there are people who desire power and wealth above all, even if it infringes on another’s being. They use drugs as a pathway to control, as a way to more easily punish and separate the proletariat, damning thousand year old traditions in the process without a care. And then they have audacity to use it for themselves as a show of wealth and power as well.

>>2421227
Because he means it. Trump literally will evaporate into the air without attention.

honkoid status?

>>2421267
Selling adult happy meals

>>2421252
>excommunicated for being a heretic
No one says this outright when they kick someone out, so I still don't know what you mean. If you mean "enemy" like you previously said, then vid related is my personal favorite example.
>the left is much more narrowly bunched into fundamental principles
Nah, the only real metric is if your ideological leaning makes a meaningful attempt to leave and replace capitalism with a system that broadly falls under the umbrella of socialism.

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this bitch keeps talkin

>>2421271
Can you elaborate vidrel? The comments make the video even more confusing.

>>2421282
Laura should read the talmud…
3 years old

>>2421284
Is that the age of consent?

>>2421283
terminally online /pol/tard shows up an oathkeeper military vet rally in like 2020 and tries to rile up people with his judeobolshevik wojak and epic nazi pepe drawings and is kicked out for being weird and dressing like a fed

>>2421236
>you are bald
>your beard is patchy
>you need glasses
>you eat the edamame bean derived product
>i have drawn myself as the principal skinner

>>2421156
Sounds like every NATO citizen should be given a daily dose of Mescaline in the JDPON reeducation camps

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>For a long time, the enemies have been planning, skillfully and with precision, for the achievement of what they have attained. They took into consideration the causes affecting the current of events. They strived to amass great and substantive material wealth which they devoted to the realisation of their dream. With their money, they took control of the world media, news agencies, the press, publishing houses, broadcasting stations, and others. With their money they stirred revolutions in various parts of the world with the purpose of achieving their interests and reaping the fruit therein. They were behind the French Revolution, the Communist revolution and most of the revolutions we heard and hear about, here and there.

>With their money they formed secret societies, such as Freemasons, Rotary Clubs, the Lions and others in different parts of the world for the purpose of sabotaging societies and achieving Zionist interests. With their money they were able to control imperialistic countries and instigate them to colonize many countries in order to enable them to exploit their resources and spread corruption there.They aim at undermining societies, destroying values, corrupting consciences, deteriorating character and annihilating Islam. It is behind the drug trade and alcoholism in all its kinds so as to facilitate its control and expansion.


>The imperialistic forces in the Capitalist West and Communist East, support the enemy with all their might, in money and in men. These forces take turns in doing that. The day Islam appears, the forces of infidelity would unite to challenge it, for the infidels are of one nation.


>Nationalist Movements in the Palestinian Arena. The Islamic Resistance Movement respects these movements and appreciates their circumstances and the conditions surrounding and affecting them. It encourages them as long as they do not give their allegiance to the Communist East or the Crusading West.


>Today it is Palestine, tomorrow it will be one country or another. The Zionist plan is limitless. After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying.


>Moreover, if the links have been distant from each other and if obstacles, placed by those who are the lackeys of Zionism in the way of the fighters obstructed the continuation of the struggle, the Islamic Resistance Movement aspires to the realisation of Allah's promise, no matter how long that should take. The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said:


>"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).


https://avalon.law.yale.edu/21st_century/hamas.asp


>>2421286
>2017 but ok
I guess they would agree with him now lol

The USA is gonna get China-type dirigisme to go to war against China. Damn.

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>>2421271
>No one says this outright
yes they do. they say "i left the left", or "the left, left me". the left is also concerned with purifying itself, so it calls anyone it finds disfavourable a reactionary, despite protests of one's identity in the church. there are people who call themselves leftists who are treated as right-wingers, but there are no people who call themselves right-wing who people regard as secretly leftist. its a one-way street, since leftism is a positive identity of belonging to certain political fashions; it is like the christian confession of faith - if you cannot call yourself a leftist, then you are right-wing (and i agree), yet there are those whose faith is still questioned.
>I still don't know what you mean
when the right splinters, it just creates more right-wing groups - when the left splinters, there is a schism, and the opposing churches call the others illegitimate. thats why there is no such thing as left unity, while the right is inherently unified against the left.
>leave and replace capitalism with a system that broadly falls under the umbrella of socialism.
this is a tremendously silly and ahistorical view of political positions. lets say theres a guy who wants to collectivise industry and all the rest, but at the same time, wants an ethnostate and wants to criminalise queer lifestyles - is he a leftist? lets say theres a guy who wants to reverse the industrial revolution and capitalism; is he a leftist?

>>2421282
You just know this bitch would cry foul if she’s treated how she acts.

The golden rule goes both ways.

>>2421193
If I was a rightist I would take this as a warning. A house divided cannot stand for long. Notice how regimes fall when there is too much diversity of thought.

>>2421200
>The researchers are morons if this is really how they framed that study
yes
> this is not the fault of the journalists interpretation.
journalists at bourgeois rags act as stenographers for the ruling class so their job is to uncritically report the bourgeois framing of things as the objective and neutral reality.

>>2421282
Jigsaw loomer is so fugly that even if I was given horse dewormer doses of viagra, my cock would still turn into a noodle and refuse to go anywhere near her even with 30 layers of ultra thick condoms. Her brain is the ugliest organ of her body. Heck, if the soul was a body part, it would be the ugliest. What a disgusting demon that escaped hell. Somebody needs to call ghost busters AND the doom guy to deal with this monster.

>>2421309
so you dispute the findings that leftists are more narrow-minded than the right?

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>>2421185
you've never read Osama Bin Laden's letters to America? Yes it's real. It's the second letter here.

https://advocatetanmoy.com/osama-bin-ladens-two-letters-letter-to-america/

>some HOA imbecile reports you for tall grass
<six star rating
How do people defend this

>>2421313
I think it's very possible they'll arrest Zohran and not only that but that major figures in the Democratic Party will even request this of Trump secretly or at least give the green light and run cover and set their media flaks on legitimizing the arrest. We will see "centrists" we all know and hate scolding their base about how Zohran broke the law and is facing the consequences nothing to see here. And the DSA after pouring everything into using Zohran as an excuse to not break with the Democratic party will have no answer to this other than "vote more next time!!!"

>The FBI has agreed to cooperate with Texas state law enforcement to locate the 50 Democratic legislators who left the state to avoid a vote on redistricting, Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) said on Thursday
https://www.axios.com/2025/08/07/fbi-texas-democrats-illinois-cornyn-redistricting

>>2421313
I'd like to believe that seeking Trump's help would absolutely destroy Cuomo's changes, but this is clown world, after all

>>2421317
they need to go to canada lol
>>2421316
if they try they're just idiots

>>2421321
>if they try they're just idiots
They are tho

>>2421321
I think they know its an escalation but its like how ᴉuᴉlossnW was the "lesser evil" compared to having the masses intervening directly in politics in the minds of Italian liberals during the early years of that regime. If they can't hold off their base then Trump can take society by the throat to preserve the social hierarchy and they rationalize they can improve things later when they get the chance.

>>2421316
>they'll arrest Zohran
lets be realistic

>>2421316
Oh PLEASE let them try to arrest Zohran, the resulting riots will make BLM look like a wet firecracker

>>2421325
modern american politics cannot be reasonably compared to that, i think you just have a particularly bleak view of things before we've seen any sign of it happening
>>2421322
they're not very smart, but arresting zohran would do nothing to help them, it's better to just let them win once and then when zohran can't really save it, let it burn out and die

Lol

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>I found this on a gore site
I need eye bleach now.

>>2421332
I didn't know she was jewish

>>2421333
hasnt she been transvestigated?

>>2421334
>Press X to MEGA DOUBT

>>2421333
Average American

>>2421335
>transvestigated
What's that?

>>2421340
discovered to be transgender by online forensic analysis

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>>2421345
is a single person surprised by this answer?

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>>2421303
>yes they do. they say "i left the left", or "the left, left me".
That's not the same thing as directly screeching "herectic" while kicking someone out, but sure. There are grifters from various political angles on youtube that love making "I left the X" or whatever. The far right mostly spends its energy searching out liberalism, or "neocons", in its ranks rather than leftists. And neocons spend their time searching out RINOs. Right now it's very fashionable to be a memester and make political gestures towards the very online. Everyone purity tests.
>when the right splinters, it just creates more right-wing groups - when the left splinters, there is a schism, and the opposing churches call the others illegitimate
I love word play but this doesn't say much. The MAGA right recently schismed with the Nick Fuentes wing and now they bicker with each other about who is legitimate.
>ahistorical view of political positions.
OK, point me out your anti-gay, ethnostate supporting, leftist in history, then.
>lets say theres a guy who wants to reverse the industrial revolution and capitalism; is he a leftist?
To what? Like primitive communism? Yeah, we have those. They're called AnPrims.

>>2421334
she almost never mentions it

>>2421300
Depends. Remember the guy who got shot when the assassin missed trump? He was a big MIGA soldier who said the Palestinians deserved the bombings. If that was the average MIGA boomer as recently as 2024 things might not have changed as much as you think. There's a generational rift on the right. The younger right wingers are more anti-Israel or at the very least anti- doing everything for them.

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>>2421305
Nobody really follows the golden rule anyway. At least not on a political scale. Maybe inside a slice of life setting like a family household people sometimes practice the golden rule but at a scale larger than that it just falls apart. It easily becomes a way to encourage your enemy or competitor to cuck out while you outflank them with more cynical and cutthroat behavior. Do unto others as you would have others do unto you? The moment you do that you become predictable and easy to outflank. Also the real problem with the golden rule is not everyone wants the same thing. If one guy wants a hooker in high heels to step on his balls that doesn't mean he should go around stepping on other guys balls because "do unto others as you would have others do unto you."

>>2421355
There’s a clip of a Turning Point conference where a speaker compares Israel to “a friend that takes you to bars and starts bar fights he expects you to join” and said we should stop giving them “welfare” to cheers.

I think Boomers are still reliant on mainstream news and the residual memory of shitty Israeli movies like Delta Force.

>>2421351
To play devil’s advocate here, if you say you’re a leftist your chances of being told you’re a secret fascist by other leftists dramatically increases—if you deviate from internet MLism you’re fash, if you’re an ML you’re a “red fash”, if you aren’t a Sakaist you’re a fascist, on and on it goes. I’d say the Left as a whole is way more exclusionary.

>>2421356
what's the relevance of this? Is this an old or new article? Is this in the context of current events?

>>2421356
>I'm just fed up with the fact that I'm cis-gendered
then just become a girl. problem solved

>>2421361
Well to be fair the right just wants to not feel guilty for things they were directly involved with and when they finally start to wake up about something they have a habit of doing a 180 in rhetoric and pretending they were always that way and expecting applause. The left is always shaming each other into apologizing and kneeling over every little thing while at the same time if someone like Tucker Carlson starts to speak up about Israel after 20 years of being a total GWOT media stooge, we're supposed to praise him as being this based MAGA communist? It's very annoying. Jackson Hinkle can go on bro podcasts and say women should obey men but he gave a speech to Yemenis condemning US imperialism so he's based. But meanwhile in a group of people who have always opposed US imperialism they're always shaming each other for not being contrite enough.

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>>2421351
>That's not the same thing as directly screeching "herectic"
it happens every day on this website. the curse word of "reactionary" or "liberal" or whatever else has this power to shame and silence opposition, like someone being accused of witchcraft. the right have no such method, since as i say, only the left is truly censorious.
>"I left the X"
its "i left the left". its one-way.
>Everyone purity tests
no they dont. the right have disagreement, but are never seen as illegitimate or disqualified from being right-wing. thats why cuckservatives can disagree with dissidents, but both empower each other, while the left burns its heretics at the stake.
>The MAGA right recently schismed with the Nick Fuentes wing and now they bicker with each other about who is legitimate.
would MAGA ever call nick a leftist? would nick ever call MAGA leftist? no.
>OK, point me out your anti-gay, ethnostate supporting, leftist in history, then.
you are too obtuse to understand the hypothetical. my point is that leftism ≠ anticapitalism; anticapitalism is a contingent aspect of a broader leftism. same way rightism ≠ capitalism. these are incorrect axes to work off of, since you can oppose capitalism and still be right-wing, and vice versa.
>anprims
are anprims leftist? no.

>>2421366
> the right have disagreement, but are never seen as illegitimate or disqualified from being right-wing
liberals are right wing but are basically accused of being full on Communists nonstop by their fellow conservative capitalist right wingers

>>2421367
what makes liberals right-wing?

>>2421360
To be honest I think the Golden Rule is meant more for people like Loomer; you put hate in the world and you get hate back. Ultimately I don’t think it’s trying to encourage doormat behavior.

Like, me personally, I’m a big dude. My whole life I’d get people who were way smaller than me trying to start shit: shoving, spitting, tripping me up, insulting me, etc. If I did anything about it I’d hear “pick on someone your own size” from whatever authority figure was near while the smaller dude would do some “oh I’m just a smol bean” kind of routine. I don’t think the golden rule is supposed to mean “let people walk over you.”

There are quite a few passages in the Bible where Jesus makes it clear that, given a choice between the letter and the spirit of the law, you should follow the spirit of it. And since the problem of injustice is a huge aspect of Christ’s teachings, I think he could forgive having contempt for people like Loomer.

>>2421364
how is that a solution to anything? women have it worse.
>physically weaker
>higher chances of mental illness
>bully culture passed on genetically where every friend group you have will be this breast measuring hierarchy
>get randomly raped or attacked at night by incels
becoming female is not a solution to ANYTHING

>>2421233
No one does this except MAGA (i.e the ever dwindling personality cult of Donald Trump)

>>2421364
Is that what you did?

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>>2421361
The right is just as exclusionary in its own special way. Typically it's more identity related like ethnicities, atheists, religions, sexual or gender orientations, people who drink soy, etc. The further right you go, the higher the likelihood you get accused of being a sneaky jew for having an opinion that differs too much. These identities targeted for derision can all shift like sand and it depends on the date and circumstance if they follow through. The wrong identity can still pass as "one of the good ones" if it tries hard enough. It all depends on how different in "spirit" you are.

>>2421282
So true. Let's ban religion as soon as there is problematic stuff in their text

>>2421370
the culture that exists between women is a net positive for them, and it's why men in comparison are lonelier. this culture also allows women to network more efficiency for jobs, this combined with the fact that they're more willing to work for a lower wage means they're starting to be prioritized for hire in declining-rate-of-profit society where cost cutting is necessary

>>2421378
I fucking hate the falling rate of profit. No capitalism is not the fault of the falling rate of profit. It is fucking stupid fucking people who are too fucking greedy. We need to shoot greedy motherfuckers and then the profit rate would go back up to what it should be. Which is around 17.76% of the length of trump's micro penis that was unfortunatelly stuck in epsteins asshole so we will never know its true SAIZE.

>>2421378
>the culture that exists between women is a net positive for them
t. moid
> they're starting to be prioritized for hire
More like immediately demoted and/or fired as soon as they go on maternity leave. You know nothing about women.

>>2421384
>maternity leave
women with professional careers have no interest in starting a family, that's partly they are more willing to accept a lower wage

>>2421368
>liberals aren't right wing!!!!!
thanks for proving me right by excluding them from your camp even though they essentially uphold imperialism, colonialism, and capitalism, albeit with a fake veneer of progressiveness and, increasingly, woke idpol discourse.

We should just completely segregate society by gender and force all further reprouction to be handled fully mechanically

>>2421382
>No capitalism is not the fault of the falling rate of profit
yes it is

>>2421389
delulu unworkable nonsense
I've always lived with women and would prefer to keep it that way

>>2421388
Neither liberal imperialism or islamic fundamentalism are good, the picture show how shitholie the life of woman under islamic fundamentalism is, but the solution is not bombing them using NATO forces

>>2421389
we should just beat the shit out of gender essentialists until the sex distinction is sublated.

>>2421365
Someone on here said something a month or two ago, that was like “most progressive arguments rely on the Motte & Bailey” and it kind of stuck with me, I’m inclined to agree.

Like I know this is diverging from your point on the right doing 180s and getting praise for it, but to me it sort of all connects to itself. When you’re outside these movements it’s portrayed as the easiest thing in the world to join; an example would be: do you think women should vote and not be literal property of the men in their life? Congrats, you’re a feminist. Do you call yourself a feminist? Well, if you ever roll your eyes at some dude saying “Men are the WORST” you suddenly lose that label. It’s portrayed as something so simple that by virtue of being alive you fall under the label, but then actually identifying with it means it can be revoked at any time. And you never know what’s gonna set someone off and have them declare you’re not just not in the in group, you’re in the hated and despised outgroup.

You get Socialism, right? Well maybe you portray it to regular people as: “even kids get it, if they saw one kid with a hundred toys and one kid with none, they’d ask him to share.” Well if you mistakenly say you’re a socialist after that, you’ll be told you actually aren’t because “those toys are products of imperialism and all you’re really asking for is to share stolen goods equally.”

On the right, the only real requirement is that you hate the left, broadly defined—and because the left can be so dramatic and prone to the most bitter internal hatreds, you’ve got no end of converts who’ll talk about how they “left the left.”

Honestly I think that’s the source of a lot of young dudes who went right wing around 2015-16 or so. You get some guys who probably thought of themselves as “on the left” because they voted Obama, were cool with gay marriage, and broadly sympathetic to Occupy, and then they get hounded with a bunch of progressive rhetoric that says, explicitly, “you’re bad, you’re an awful person, you need to atone, you suck, the world would be better with less of you.” Well, the more involved these guys were with “the left” broadly defined, the more of a betrayal it feels like—the more angry they get. And the only response is just to mock them for it; “Oh, I hurt your little feelings and now you’re some kind of Nazi or something? Fuck you.” It’s a perverse celebration of the fact you turned someone into a die-hard enemy of yours.

A local example I keep harkening back to is some folks that were involved in a Maoist group out here. They put in work, did mutual aid, had a little stand where they tried to hand out pamphlets, good people. Then this guy joins and he’s all into Sakai, it’s “settlers this” and “settlers that” he’s abrasive as fuck and pretty rude to a few of these people. Well one day one of them gets so exhausted that he posts on Facebook something like:
>”if I hear the word settlers one more time I’m gonna smack a bitch.”

Instantly the dude who’s into Settlers accuses them of threatening to kill him. The dude and his closest comrades are given some tribunal where they’re told to self-crit (basically say they’re awful people and should apologize to the guy being a cunt to them) or leave. They left. This was a group they devoted years to and lots of effort for, and they were cast out instantly. They looked for other leftist orgs, but their old org followed them and accused them of “wanting to lynch a black man”.

Thankfully they found a new org that blew the Maoists off, but if they didn’t? I wouldn’t even fault them for going right wing. I’d feel bad if my coworkers didn’t like me, being viscerally despised by an org you worked for for months? It’s traumatic. And if people joke “hurr, you became a nazi because we were mean!” All I can say is that one of the earliest pushers for antisemitic pogroms in the medieval world was himself a converted Jewish man with a chip on his shoulder.

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>>2421392
>Neither liberal imperialism or islamic fundamentalism are good
liberal imperialism funded and armed islamic fundamentalists against secularizing forces in the region because keeping wahabists and salafists in place as a constant source of terror has helped the imperialist divide and conquer and plunder the entire MENA region, as well as other regions.
>the picture show how shitholie the life of woman under islamic fundamentalism is
Afghanistan was secularizing under socialists before the liberal imperialists in the CIA stepped in with Operation Cyclone, which started not even under Reagan but under Jimmy Carter through Zbigniew Brzezinski, both arch-liberal imperialists.
>but the solution is not bombing them using NATO forces
Yet this is what liberal imperialists did! It's what they did to Yugoslavia too!

>>2421282
Throwing a stone in a glass house here. Maybe Judaism and Catholics has some later commentary making up age rules for marriage but it's not in the Bible itself. Most Protestant denominations have no age requirement for marriage because of this. That's the reason child marriage still legally happens in many conservative American states today. Doubt she will ever bring that up.

>>2421365
It comes from a difference of position. Tucker and Hinkle are independent media personalities who have some flexibility in jumping around. In fact their media careers reward drumming up controversy by going against the common line of their main audiences. But the many average leftists probably built their social and political life around a particular group. Makes them more willing to go overboard in conforming to the group in order to stay in it.

>>2421394
This is a lot of words to justify your own far-right inclinations.

>>2421391
We've managed the autism of racially segregated towns and cities now we just make it on entire sex wide base. With enough work in stem cells and horizontal gene transfer we won't even need input from the population

>>2421394
Yes yes the right is all open arms and the left isn't at all. Now let me store this mentally away with the other instances of political observers bemoaning that their own side is exclusionary while the other side is inclusive, including a ton of right wingers who think the left is a united monolith.

Seriously have you ever considered that you personally just might really hate this SJW-ish stuff and that you have a hard time grappling with your emotions? I'm of fucking East Asian descent and I get shit on by everyone else, imagine being a fucking Chinese-American in these days lmao, it's a fucking curse. But ultimately who cares? If I had to take seriously the ramblings of some blue haired lib that I'm white-adjacent and I need to check my anti-blackness or an insane wignat telling me that I'm hopelessly inferior because I don't have the predator eyes of a superior Japanese samurai I would've killed myself a long time ago. Grow a fucking pair of testicles.

>>2421401
>we
I'm not on board. I love women. They hold up half the sky. You cannot keep me from them.

>>2421404
Okay, their half.

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Is this peak burger?

>>2421401
who is we

>>2421401
how much does it cost to raise a child to 18, like half a million?

>>2421407
Permanent settled society.
>>2421408
That's s problem door the different societies post incubation

>>2421408
It's a moving target since a lot of inflation can happen in 18 years but yes, that is what I've heard roughly as the statistic, but that statistic is probably 10-15 years old now.


>>2421410
so family of four is a 2 million dollar investment essentially. no wonder nobodies having kids

>>2421163
>It's incredible people get worried about defunding the police when they have half a million dollar armored vehicles deployed at peoples suburban homes to deal with tall grass.
They literally get military surplus FOR FREE once the military is done with it regardless of their funding but "ooooooh if you hecking defund them the police will literally be disarmed and the thuggers are gonna run wild and rape all the precious bourgeois white women waaaaaaaaaaaah" and other reactoid fear mongering takes front seat in the reactoid mind.

>>2421414
everyone I know with more than 2 is in massive debt and everyone I know with 2 or less is basically two bad months from being in debt unless they're bourgeois

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>>2421419
The "inner city youth" (blacks) yearn for the farms

>>2421097
Why are they in an armored vehicle to address high grass?

>>2421406
This is how the the new King of the Hill ends btw.

>>2421394
The burger left in general has a massive problem with puritanical bullshit and I don’t know how to solve it

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>>2421181
Most of us didn't have a real hand in creating this society, we were just born in it and are living through its destruction. Thinking millions of people are collectively responsible for what their ruling class does is what the US government uses as a fake justification when bombing people. If you get schadenfreude out of seeing the tables finally turn, I can't stop you, but just understand that a lot of the people really responsible for all this either died comfortably in their beds or will flee to a bunker somewhere when the time comes.

>>2421388
i ask a simple question and you completely sperg out
mental instability - a possible chemical imbalance.

I'm sure this will go great
>President Donald Trump is preparing to sign an executive order that will open up 401(k) retirement plans to alternative assets, the White House has confirmed to Newsweek.

>Bloomberg and Reuters originally reported the move, citing anonymous sources familiar with the plan. The outlets said the order would revise existing regulations and guidance to allow assets such as real estate, cryptocurrency and private equity in the retirement savings accounts. Details of the plan first emerged in reports last month.

>>2421436
>runs out of arguments so accuses the opponent of mental instability
OK

>>2421442
i asked "what makes liberals right-wing" and you immediately imply that i am a supporter of imperialism. yes, you are insane by tyoical definitions. extreme paranoia.

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>>2421419
American pundit millionaire boomer Pirro says "These young coddled American treatlerites are about to be sent to FARMER JACK!!!!"

Lol everyday man

>>2421445
I guess MAGA communism is back on the menu then

Woman says Arabic man said he pledges himself to isis at a hotel. Cops rush in and slam man who dosen't even speak English. He even goes thru a cardiac episode where they need medics. He was just a regular Arabic who never said this

>>2421452
This got 143 likes

>>2421394
Vivek Chibber is 100% right about the burger left

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>>2421444
Let's retrace the conversation.

you:
> the right have disagreement, but are never seen as illegitimate or disqualified from being right-wing
(this was wrong)
me (proving you wrong):
>liberals are right wing
(you had no counter argument to this)
>but are basically accused of being full on Communists nonstop by their fellow conservative capitalist right wingers
(you had no counter argument to this either, and anyone can see this happening for decades now, for example Obama was a liberal imperialist but was slandered as Muslim communist by the right)
you:
>what makes liberals right-wing?
(this is what you said rather than counter arguing, the implication of course being that you are skeptical that liberals are right wing. what could possibly be the motivation for that?)
me:
>thanks for proving me right by excluding them from your camp
(you never denied being right wing after this btw, this entire conversation is just you implying that liberals and the communists are the same thing)
> even though they essentially uphold imperialism, colonialism, and capitalism, albeit with a fake veneer of progressiveness and, increasingly, woke idpol discourse.
(I attached an image from the Bush years of "women's rights" being used as an excuse by that conservative-liberal capitalist imperialist regime to justify its attacks on Afghanistan, which btw right wing fundamentalists were in power in Afghanistan directly as a result of operation cyclone which has been memory-holed)

So do you have an answer for any of this or are you going to continue sperging out and accusing me of sperging out while you have nothing to say? Everyone can easily read this conversation and figure out what you're trying to do because we have years of repeats of these same conversations over and over. For the right, the formula is

Liberals = Communists = "The Left" = "Not Right"

But that's wrong. It's simply right wingers trying to purge their own moderate flank (the liberals) so they can make shit even worse without any kind of moderation, even from an imperialist, capitalist force internal to their own ranks.

Who else would start a conversation with the cringe ass 10+ year old anticommunist meme from >>2421366

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US TO ANNEX ARMENIAN ZANGEZUR CORRIDOR (someone should do an /armenia/ again, like everytime Armenia loose territory)

>Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev and Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan are to join Trump at the White House for talks and the signing ceremony, the U.S. officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

>They are to sign a framework aimed at reaching a "concrete pathway to peace" and addressing a long-simmering transit issue, the officials said.
Azerbaijan has asked for a transport corridor through Armenia, linking the bulk of its territory to Nakhchivan, an Azerbaijani enclave that borders Baku's ally Turkey.
Under a carefully negotiated section of the documents the leaders will sign on Friday, Armenia plans to award the United States exclusive special development rights for an extended period on a transit corridor that will be named the Trump Route for International Peace and Prosperity, and known by the acronym TRIPP, the officials said.
>The route will be operated according to Armenian law and the United States will sublease the land to a consortium for infrastructure and management, the officials said.
>"Through commercial means, this step will unlock the region and avert further hostilities," one of the officials said.
>The Armenian and Azerbaijani leaders will also sign documents requesting the dissolution of the Minsk Group, which has been co-chaired by France, Russia and the United States since its establishment in 1992 to mediate the conflict, the officials said.

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>>2421368
>what makes liberals right-wing?
Nobody knows, it's a mystery

>>2421366
> the right have no such method, since as i say, only the left is truly censorious.
They're more concerned with liberalism. The center presents more of a threat for infiltration to them. Likewise, it's certain identities that are typically seen as threatening. The "transhumanist", "jew", or "woke" is the most recent bugbear used to ignore or silence people.
>the right have disagreement, but are never seen as illegitimate or disqualified from being right-wing
It depends if they sin in spirit. If they do things that are too "soy" you will face ostracization or have to at least change sects of the right. Both progressives and conservatives are liberals that are fine with maintaining capitalism. The far right also isn't trying to end capitalism. It makes sense they get a \long because it's really not that much of a difference.
>would MAGA ever call nick a leftist?
No, because they are too invested in calling him one of the heretical identities like "gay".
> my point is that leftism ≠ anticapitalism
Scroll up. I was pretty careful with how I framed this. What I said was "makes a meaningful attempt to leave and replace capitalism with a system that broadly falls under the umbrella of socialism". I said this with the understanding that there are anti-capitalists in history that in practice are capitalists.
>are anprims leftist? no.
Eh, they're post-leftists that are strategically flawed, but still trying to build socialism. I would say the milieu they came out of was leftist. I don't fuck with post leftism much tho. Someone else here probably has a better opinion on AnPrims.

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>>2421394
This is true and not just with the Left
Its because political people in the West are ultimately puritans, people just think that if you do a bad no good thing then you are a sinner that should be smited by God
Oh you disagree with the concept of inequal exchange? You are a settler imperialist. You support Ukraine? You are literally a Nazi. You think Oct 7 is a strategic disaster and Hamas should be hold accountable for this, you are an iSSraeli apologist
(The same applies in the other direction btw. If you so much believe that Americans hardly suffered from capitalism or that settler imperialism is an important factor in the American political culture you will be immediately tarred as an insane radical Maoist)

Unironically religious people have a better way of handling this than politics people. You can sin, but there is a degree of difference in sins. For example, one of my comrade might be slightly bigoted against queer people, and the other is racist against Indians; but ultimately both can restrain themselves and work with other comrades from minority groups. This should lead me to judge it as "minor sins' on the level of masturbating or drunkenness; something that is unfortunate but ultimately not something that much important.
That is not how political people see it thought. Even minor difference is enough to put you into the "enemy group" on the level of Adolph Hitler

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>>2421472
I think what’s important is that other religions have ritual for the “overcoming of sin” as it were; begging forgiveness from a deity, invoking some sacrament, etc etc. I think even Islam has a method that’s like telling God “I fucked up, I’m gonna try to not fuck up again.”

By contrast politics here are extremely Calvinist in a way. You’re either damned or saved and things like sin or virtue are just hinting towards what camp you’re in.

>>2421482
Anne Frank died from preexisting conditions if you think about it

what if we just nuked silicon valley and las vegas and new york and DC

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>>2421485
I can find absurd stories that make no sense which /pol/ focuses on. The Holocaust still happened

https://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/10/world/time-too-painful-to-remember.html

>>2421402
I like how he extends a single anecdote into a whole thesis about why people turn to fascists. Everyone who is currently a fascist was previously part of a maoist movement and they abandoned it due to internal spat involving J Sakai, then they voted Trump.

>>2421492
Yes that is literally what I’m saying, anecdotes don’t exist. It’s not possible for someone to go vaguely any other flavor of right wing because of the idiotic self-defeating nature of the left. Congratulations on the excellent reading comprehension.

>>2421483
People here are generally antisocial, misanthropic, and have a lot of anger they've been unable to process in any healthy manner.

>>2421483
Traditional Leftists have a means for forgiveness(struggle sessions, self-criticism, etc) but Liberalism does not because to be a Liberal is to be intellectually and ideologically flawless. Anything to the Left of Liberalism is "crazy" and anything to the right is "literally Hitler" and because every Liberal has different personal values they can never agree on anything beyond excommunicating eachother. Like when you disagree on whether abortion should be legal and what the arbitrary cutoff should be it's easier to just identify every person to the Right of your position and aggressively attack them than it is to convince those people to adopt your view. It's basically a race to the bottom as more and more extraneous "political undesirables" are shed from the Democrat voting bloc to become more ideologically pure until there's no one left.

>>2421495
What you're saying is nothing but apologia for yourself and your right wing party. You're trying to come up with excuses for why you're so far right, as if it will absolve you in the end.

It won't.

>>2421499
Actually I was providing an anecdote that you, being a genuine idiot acting in bad faith, extrapolated as an iron rule. If I were to say “Oh this restaurant is bad, the servers told me to go fuck myself, and they spit in my food” you would exclaim “Oh yeah, everyone who doesn’t eat here had someone spit in their food. Sure buddy.”

You literally only argue in bad faith because you like this culture of just insular hostility. Trying to reason you out of a position is pointless because you’ve got the mind of a crack addict.

>>2421498
I mean I see this plenty in radical spaces, take this anon for example: >>2421499

>>2421503
Counterpoint, I’ve met crackheads and ex crackheads that are closer to your politics than the person you’re replying to

>>2421505
Except you don’t know a thing about my politics, you just make psychotic exclamations about what they are and always infer in bad faith.

Shit I posted my ballot on here years ago and someone tried to claim I was voting against affordable housing for… reasons? Don’t even think that was a bill up for vote, but you retards never let reality get in the way of vibes.

>>2421503
Both you and your party are objectively right wing and you deserve any and all cruelties you suffer.

In a civilized society national socialists like you would be hounded to suicide or dragged into a basement and shot but unfortunately we don't live there yet.

>>2421508
Put your name back on, Felix.

>>2421472
>Its because political people in the West are ultimately puritans, people just think that if you do a bad no good thing then you are a sinner that should be smited by God
if you turn this idea around it's a condemnation about how the west cannot fundamentally organize any sort of revolution. The question of identity politics collapses huge systemic phenomena into YOUR personal experience vis-a-vis systems of oppression, and how YOU might contribute to it on an individual basis and it is downstream from core western ideological principles. It's the sort of impulse that drives, say, hazites into breaking down "working class" people into ever so smaller categories, like "PMCs" or "baristas" because the question itself gets boiled down to how YOU experience capitalism. The actual analysis is foregone in favor of a working class olympics, about how much you identify with the working class. There's no escaping identity politics or "woke moralism" it because what was vomitted from american protestantism is this nonsense, it's this blurry mass of waging the individual's moral worth, an ideological necessity of american liberalism in order to administer the misery it produces, is what is buried deep down into every american. Evangelicals escape it because they have an unmovable negative ethics of prohibition, instead of a relative net of permissions.

>>2421506
I’m not the bad faith third worldist you were replying to, nor was I using crackhead in the derogatory sense, people are driven to these things because the demands of this society to anyone without nepobaby connections are insane. In real conversations in real life with real people you can usually get around petty hangups that become the center of any online conversation.

>>2421394
> It’s portrayed as something so simple that by virtue of being alive you fall under the label, but then actually identifying with it means it can be revoked at any time. And you never know what’s gonna set someone off and have them declare you’re not just not in the in group, you’re in the hated and despised outgroup.

>You get Socialism, right? Well maybe you portray it to regular people as: “even kids get it, if they saw one kid with a hundred toys and one kid with none, they’d ask him to share.” Well if you mistakenly say you’re a socialist after that, you’ll be told you actually aren’t because “those toys are products of imperialism and all you’re really asking for is to share stolen goods equally.”


yeah i agree this is a really good observation

>>2421511
Kind of weird to say “I don’t use crackhead in a negative sense” but I’ll take you at your word.

That said the conversations I’ve had in vaguely leftish spaces IRL have had plenty of passive aggressive sniping, bad faith, and pointless dick measuring.

>>2421516
Your type is not welcome in any actual left wing spaces, which is why you sit here bitching about the left all day. We will never be right wingers like you, no matter how hard you try.

>>2421510
The ultimate irony is that third-worldists, or at least third worldists in the third world, have cobbled a means to escape this, by carving a sense of collective identity out of first world imperial oppression. even if their model of the world is incorrect, they at least have managed to orient themselves in large systemic terms, a feat that americans can not and will not produce, because this is an intuition that can only arrive from being on the receiving end of imperialism

>>2421519
Even when CPUSAnon describes the reaction towards donny tronny, he frames it around how individually people *feel*, they personally feel emasculated when confronted with feminists, they personally feel left out when a wrecker imposes themself. In that regard, reaction is not only a fixture, it's also always justified. You just need to point at a perceived grivance and presto, a shitty analysis that explains why people turn to donal tron. Woke idpol really is the other side of the coin of american reaction, and americans are never overcoming idpol. it's over for you guys.

Why is TWist schizo not permabanned?

He’s been shitting up the board for years on end with bad faith arguments, claiming everybody is a fascist except him, he literally ruins every thread he touches.

Just let him scream into the void as a glowposter so people can filter him.

>>2421519
I mean, you could create a collectivized identity around being a worker in America given we’re “unique” in having more mass shootings than any country on earth, maybe the worst healthcare system of any developed nation, etc. but the problem is a good portion of the American left is genuinely just ashamed of the category they were born into and want to escape it. They despise the idea of being just some shlubby American worker so they adopt other identities.

Lemme give an example; the black panthers said, essentially, white Marxists should try to organize white workers to be sympathetic to class struggle. Instead you got groups like “The White Panthers” which basically wanted to do nothing but tail the black panthers as white people, or the Weather Underground which talked endlessly about how much it loved the Black Panthers but refused to organize white workers because, again, they were third worldists.

Literally you’ve got everything you need to make shit work here, but we’ve got this insane group psychology where if someone has no shoes, someone has one shoe, and another guy has 3, people would rather shame the guy with one shoe than try to get both to go after the guy with 3

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>>2421533
Why is the natsoc schitzo not banned?

He's been shitting up the thread for years with bad faith arguments, claiming everyone hates him because he's a white American, he literally ruins every left wing space he touches which is why he can't stop talking about how he's not welcome in any of them.

Just let him scream into the void about how feminism scares him.

Epstein and Israel really have destroyed MAGA.
Any time a MAGA starts acting obnoxious these days I just bring up Epstein and they get paralyzed unable to come up with an excuse.

>>2421541
God, you’re such a hypersensitive child

>>2421540
What do the comments say

>>2421519
>at least third worldists in the third world
There are none lmao.

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Texas Democrat status?

>>2421549
Pritzker keeping em safe for now

>>2421540
They were still apologetic, submissively pleading not be called antisemitic. Fucking slaves.

>>2421550
As if Illinois state police aren't going to collaborate with the FBI the first chance they get. Really the smartest recourse is to flee to Canada at this point

>>2421542

I don't think it was that so much as the fact that MAGA was a purely reactionary movement composed of a bunch of different right-wing groups that were only unified by their hatred of the left and the Democratic Party. Now that MAGA have defeated their common enemy and taken over the government, these different right-wing groups have very little common ground and now they are turning on one another.

> U.S. Attorney for DC Pirro has threatened all the anti-Israel Americans:


>>2421560
>23% with independents

Aaahahaha he’s cooked

>>2421545
There are plenty in MY third world country

>>2421560
Donald Trumpstein thankfully has the majority pedophile/mossad cult on his side.

>>2421545
t. westoid

>>2421534
> but the problem is a good portion of the American left is genuinely just ashamed of the category they were born into and want to escape it.
No, the problem is that americans refuse to divorce themselves from categories because they have no other means of self-identification

>>2421566
Name a form of non categorical identification NOW

I have been watching a dozens of police bodycam stuff on YouTube lately. So many cops are cowards. Interesting to see

>>2421562
None of these freaks have ever actually met anyone who lives in a country that suffers at the hands of American imperialism. If they did, they'd end up beaten or shot, which is what they deserve.

>>2421534
The problem is that American imperialism is literally killing the world and you're making constant apologies for it in hopes that it will make YOUR life better.

The funny thing is, it won't even do that, but that doesn't stop you from trying.

>>2421567
Whoops, I mean they have no means of collective self-identification, so it's always categories that are relative between individuals

>>2421572
And when I say means, I'm saying they don't have the ideological priors required, I think cpusanon is right that materially, the conditions are there, and the obstacle is entirely ideological, but I also believe how he frames reaction is within these ideological limits.

>>2421560
That can't be right, surely?

>>2421568
they care about their lives first and foremost. its a glaring weakness

>>2421464
>ARMEN
>U.S. officials believe a peace deal between Armenia and Azerbaijan could prompt negotiations on the entry of Azerbaijan into the Abraham Accords, the series of normalization agreements that Trump brokered between Israel and four Muslim-majority countries in his first term.
what's even the point of that? propaganda for trump team? azerbaijan already recognizes israel and even lets them spy iran from there

>>2421576
I watch a lotta bodycam videos and if anything they're overly reckless adventure-seekers. Cops constantly escalate situations just to make it exciting even if it involves killing someone or getting their friends killed. They'll turn a rando fleeing a traffic stop into a 10+ car police chase that ultimately gets people killed/injured just because it's cooler than scanning the license plate and picking the perp up at their listed address.

>>2421576
This was a shooting at a grocery store. They had 15 police departments there and over 100 cops. They even used a fire truck for swat guys to get on the roof, they used a swat terrydyne to break the wall of the grocery store and left an injured officer in the store for about half an hour.

They took forever to help the people and when they walked in the guy immediately gave himself up.

i am low key freaking out today because I am basically pretty much fucked
weekly room rent -> $380
amount of money I have right now -> $210
there is no one left to ask for help
and to top it off, I don't have access to my cashapp bc I had to afterpay a motel stay a month ago
I have a job interview tomorrow and im literally asking this dude if I can borrow a buttondown and tie for it.
literally borrowing clothes dude im cooked
now im thinking how I need to figure out what Im going to do with my dog and stuff, stuff will be throw away, dog I already asked the shelter and they full, there's no way for me to go to a job if im on the streets with this dog (where do you leave him for 8 hours?)
i legit want to just give up, lay down, and never wake up again. i know im supposed to be this like unstoppable force of hustle and struggle and optimism and i know that even talking about this shit damages the brand

whats the point of any of this if im still going to just die a death of despair

>>2421591
Spend less on candles?

>>2421583
I mean yeah they're stupid brutes who terrorize people but the rank and file officer is still a humungous pussy when it comes to handling actual dangerous scenarios

>>2421583
Going to watch looks interesting ty

>>2421453
I'm willing to bet that this faggot would have a lot to say about women doing false rape accusations against men they dont like
But when hoes are doing it for racism and white supremacy its all ok
Fucking bitchass crackkkers

>>2421591
you need to find someone to split a yearly apartment lease with my guy. weekly rates are unsustainable. create fake employment history if you have to

>>2421594
At 21:55 the supervisor literally suggests shooting the guy, in a moving vehicle, in a busy road, because they can't catch him.
They're so fucking dumb.

>>2421583
>Cops constantly escalate situations
De-escalation is for PUSSIES
Cops are WARRIORS in ENEMY TERRITORY
civilian populations are POTENTIAL INSURGENTS

>>2421583
Look at this one. This guy walked into a senior home with a literal chainsaw. The cop stands in front of him saying he is going to taze him. The guy takes forever to turn on the chainsaw with a bunch of elderly people who can't walk around him at all. The cop literally does nothing and is extremely lucky the guy was a retard who can't use a chainsaw and didn't want to do violence

The guy could have killed well over a dozen of elderly people while the cop stood there holding a taser pointed at him.

>>2421591
>amount of money I have right now -> $210
There's a reason plasma donation clinics are always next to smoke shops and liquor stores.
Just saying.

>>2421600
This one a woman is being held in a gas station bathroom at knife point while she screams at top of her lungs. A worker called police to tell them and a customer outside told them to hurry up and run inside

The cop just stands there looking at bathroom hearing screams for minutes. Then sees next cop show up and says should wait for more backup they are clearly both scared. Then a cop finally shows up and opens bathroom and arrest guy. The woman was cut up. They both got fired

>>2421607
Also I have seen a bunch of street cops cry hysterically on the scene when they see something bad. Never the detectives or forensics people they keep composure fully.

>>2421583
>I watch a lotta bodycam videos and if anything they're overly reckless adventure-seekers.
>>2421593
>I mean yeah they're stupid brutes who terrorize people but the rank and file officer is still a humungous pussy
Whenever I watch one of these and the cop is a reckless adventure-seeker who is not cowardly and is actually good at it (most likely trains in martial arts) he's always a lone black cop. I've seen a couple of those where it's like oh my lord it's the Terminator except he's saying "I AIN'T PLAYIN WITCHU." Fuck that noise.

>>2421608
>Also I have seen a bunch of street cops cry hysterically on the scene when they see something bad. Never the detectives or forensics people they keep composure fully.
I think that's probably more stress and their system dumping adrenaline, which is why it sets in after about a minute and they're crying hysterically or vomiting. Or the actual adrenaline shock happens before the brain can even process what caused the shock in the conscious mind, and then it really completes its dump into the bloodstream within a minute or so. Or going "I just… I… he… shot at me… but… I didn't…" It's a thing that happens to the human body undergoing shock. You'll see the other cops show up and are acting fine and they'll say "go. sit. down" as the cop is just wandering around in a daze.

>>2421612
Yeah this is very accurate. Essentially what I have seen yeah

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>>2421612
Also people don't realize that getting into a shootout isnt part of the usual cop experience
This is unlike a forensic doctor or a paramedic. Getting into nasty bloody situations is their usual duty

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>>2421615
The cops are also largely incompetent for calming a person down when a situation involves mental health distress or their emotions are getting out of control not necessary fully in aggression but they are panicking. You will occasionally see one who is good at it probably from skills they developed in life having nothing to do with being a cop.

While I have seen firefighters/medics who sit down in a non judgemental way and ask them how are doing calmly and they chill out.


>>2421574
I mean fundamentally I see “white identity politics” as furthering the problem of useless distractions from building cohesion, but the problem lies in this being both ways. I think what I saw in uni only perpetuates this issue and division; like I remember ages ago on some article back while Trump was still just a candidate that “white racial consciousness was on the rise”; as in, white people statistically hadn’t really thought of themselves as “white” in some meaningful way prior to that. Some commenter on it had a snide remark like:
>”we kept telling white people they had to think about race and now that they are they’re desperately telling them to stop”
I don’t agree with the implied glee in the statement, but I do see a parallel. Ultimately all that idpol shit merely hardens battle lines.

Of course I think that kind of reflects universities trend towards liberal individualism. It’s in the labor force that you start developing an “us” rather than college’s “you and I”.

As for the cure? To some extent I think a civic nationalism can bridge the most serious divides, the the greatest extent of that “positive” nationalism could be achieved when there’s no longer a material difference in the economic status of white and black Americans (not to discount any others) but the superstructure can perhaps start being constructed through education and integration—maybe a public holiday given the same level of reverence as thanksgiving in which the end of Jim Crow is celebrated and public space is given over to diverse events meant to foster friendships across racial lines. Food, unlike just a parade, is a great way to bring people together. The ultimate goal of which is the dissolution of the minor categories of “American” into a greater whole; or in layman’s terms: get the white American to see himself in the plight of the black American rather than reflecting them as “the other”. Not being some “outside savior” or some oppressor, but genuinely seeing the people stomped down and hyper exploited by the planters or the sheriffs of the south as their brothers or sisters or even themselves.

As for why I said civic nationalism (even that is a poor approximation for what I’m trying to describe) over worker identity? Well I believe “American” is de facto a more tangible thing at present. On the right you’ve got some people absurdly insisting Elon Musk is “with the working class” or that a guy who owns a small business in a blue collar trade is working class. On the Left, at present, the “working class” expands globally and is subdivided into further identity categories which perpetuate enmity between “imperial” workers and third world workers, or “labor aristocrat” baristas and “real” construction workers.

Ultimately the only way to confront the various crises of capital within our borders and finally turn off the great machine of exploitation is with a unified effort of the people within this country. The means by which you get them to unify matters inasmuch as whether it will work, I think.

>>2421607
Cops are such pussies

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>>2421613
>Yeah this is very accurate. Essentially what I have seen yeah
>>2421615
>Also people don't realize that getting into a shootout isnt part of the usual cop experience
Yeah it isn't that common for them. They get into more brawls. Do the math, there are around 750,000 cops in the U.S. before counting federal agencies, and around 1,000~ shootings involving cops per year.

I've experienced that kind of adrenaline from violence once (it was minor, not involving gunfire or anything) and it was a very weird feeling. It's hard to describe but I probably won't ever forget it. It's like time slows down but you feel like you're on meth too (although I've never done meth). I don't know what I would've looked like to other people.

>>2421615
>This is unlike a forensic doctor or a paramedic. Getting into nasty bloody situations is their usual duty
They get desensitized to it so it just becomes their job. I met someone recently who did that for a living. She wasn't a cop but whatever agency handled the cleanup, mid-40s lesbian who had that kind of serious but unemotional deadpan expression that I've really only seen Russians be the masters at.

>>2421605
I am almost certain I can't give plasma bc of some untreated medical stuff. I actually really do need to get that handled but medical shit is too expensive to be something I concern myself with.

i hate asking for money
i really cannot stress that enough
its also fucked up bc why am I thinking "oh she can just help me with this?" like who the fuck am I

relying on people like that, its just putting your burden on them and I hate it

i dont feel like the magazine/website/community is enough to justify the level of support some people have given me

meanwhile people like second thought makes over 100k a month

do you think he has the same mindset? do you think he feel anguish or like a bum? Because those patreon subs are donations to his project, the cupofcoffee, the kofi, the merch, its all "donations" right? what's the difference?

im tired of feeling like this bc I know it is determintal to the brand and the growth of the project and how people perceive me, as a worthless fucking bum who can't make it in the game who has no worth or value.

. i know im supposed to be this like unstoppable force of hustle and struggle and optimism and i know that even talking about this shit damages the brand


>>2421607
I remember seeing that one with a buddy, we were both yelling at the cops to just charge in. Though some of the other bodycam footage was more fucked imo, there was one where a woman basically killed her malnourished 4 year old out of anger and hid him in this fridge downstairs, one of the cops nearly puked and when he found out the other kids in the house saw the body he was just talking about how he wanted to kill the bitch who did it, could kind of understand that.

There was another where it seemed to me they earnestly tried to de-escalate and the guy ran anyways, though I suppose they could’ve said something like “what can I do to make you feel more at ease?”

>>2421621
>I mean fundamentally I see “white identity politics” as furthering the problem of useless distractions
It is not a useless distraction especially in your context of "civic nationalism" which is idpol by any other name. Once again in your example you centered the *feelings* of white people who *feel* that whiteness has begun to be litigated just a few decades ago. The truth is, as I already explained, that (racial) identity is an existential need of american liberalism, insofar as it provides a post-hoc justification to its own misery it produces. In that sense "whiteness" as a political category is deeply interlinked with the very conception of America. It is not a superficial identity that opaques material relations, but a pillar of American ideology that provides a justification to its own foundational violence. The sad thing is that you're not even the first person to try and launder the concept of america, you don't get a single point of originality here, of course liberals who refuse to relinquish imperial spoils do it too, each time they mention america is a "nation of immigrants". And of course, each and every time they receive backlash from reactionaries, because the sleight of hand is obvious, is it not? Divorcing the concept of "whiteness" from america is impossible, you can merely suppress it, but reactoids are not *that* stupid, they know what's up, the concept of whiteness is being put into question once again. Thus they complete the degenerate circuit of american politics that has existed since its inception. Of course, in your usual myopic inspidness, you don't even bother contending with the fact that labor being globalized means that there's no material means to address the crisis of capital within the american borders. It is a global crisis and the only means of addressing a global crisis of capital is through a globalized proletarian, of course, that means getting rid of the useless american identity and put a definite end to endless retreadings of race and national identity, something americans are, once again, incapable of doing. your entrerpise is doomed to fail, but everyone here knows this already, they're just entertaining your stupid rants.

>>2421638
This is the fridge one I seen it too

>>2421644
This one is very similar situation too

>>2421642
>Of course, in your usual myopic inspidness, you don't even bother contending with the fact that labor being globalized means that there's no material means to address the crisis of capital within the american borders. It is a global crisis and the only means of addressing a global crisis of capital is through a globalized proletarian, of course, that means getting rid of the useless american identity and put a definite end to endless retreadings of race and national identity, something americans are, once again, incapable of doing.

Wasn’t there a guy from Chagos who was acting all tough a few months ago then admitted they couldn’t do anything to end imperialism on their own?

Well good luck to the rest of the world I suppose, but it doesn’t look like JDPON is ever gonna happen.

>This faggot made a video trashing mamdani. I'm too lazy to watch it. Can someone gimme a run down or this is the same old shit from this sleazebag?

>>2421649
>but it doesn’t look like JDPON is ever gonna happen.
And here was I thinking the sakaists were the ones wrecking and salting the conversation, turns out it was you all along! Wow what a surprise that a national chauvinsits exits the room with tears the minute they are bested.

>>2421654
If you try jumping off a roof because you think you can fly if you flap your arms hard enough, it ain’t my job to feed your delusions.

You can’t even organize a book club, let alone a town, a city, a country, and you’re just absurdly insisting “actually the solution is to get everyone on earth to unite—including a portion that you actively despise and try to explain will be worse off than before—to overthrow Capitalism.”

It’s a fucking pipe dream. You’re no closer to it now then you were a year ago, at this point it’s more axiomatic faith than theory.

>>2421658
I just said that organizing around american identity, and especially, around fixing the issues of capital within the american borders is impossible, the latter is a goal that will never be met due to the global division of labor. This doesn't discount the fact that you should be organizing regardless, just that your stated goals are transparently contradictory. Also, global organization is an issue that capitalists have have overcome for at least 3 decades. You can choose to cover your eyes if you like, but that's the truth.

>>2421392
anon, even MBS came out saying that it's the US that loves to finance Sunni Wahhabism Salafists. if it weren't for the fucking US there won't be wahhabism.
that, and eastern european nazi collaborators after wwII. basically liberals love to finance these people.

>>2421361
>To play devil’s advocate here, if you say you’re a leftist your chances of being told you’re a secret fascist by other leftists dramatically increases—if you deviate from internet MLism you’re fash, if you’re an ML you’re a “red fash”, if you aren’t a Sakaist you’re a fascist, on and on it goes. I’d say the Left as a whole is way more exclusionary.

as long you support in the slightest any lies, any psyop, any violent imperial puppet, yes.
the basics principles of individuals practicing communism are:
SOLIDARITY
NON-SECTARIAN
ANTI-IMPERIALIST
any other thing is stranding ideologies that will in the meantime amount to nothing or simply become reactionary counter-revolutionaries that'll jump into liberalism or worst, conservatism or fascism.

I do think that any revolution that happens in America to bring communism needs to be Futurist in its outlook. That is to say, we have to reject the past and stop relying on it for propaganda or strategy, whether it's invoking Lincoln and Washington or the American Revolution or trying to LARP as Lenin and recreate the Bolshevik Revolution. An American communism, whatever form it ends up taking, will be an ad hoc experience that will be defined by its actions in the revolution and civil war, a baptism by fire that will purify the ideological distinctions and squabbles between Marxists and Anarchists into a cohesive whole out of what survives. And we need to focus on the future because it is the future where we will be living the rest of our lives, to paraphrase Ed Wood if I may.

CPUSAnon and the CPUSA at large may be well intentioned in trying to invoke the spectres of America's past to craft an image of communism "as American as apple pie" but the truth of the matter is that in doing so even just for propaganda purposes we risk chaining ourself to the past and all the baggage and expectations that come with it. As communists we are not trying to RETVRN to some past ideal, nor are we just fixing what's wrong right now, but on building a brighter tomorrow today, and we cant do that if we're clinging to old symbols. Let the past die. Kill it, if you have to

>>2421659
>I just said that organizing around american identity, and especially, around fixing the issues of capital within the american borders is impossible, the latter is a goal that will never be met due to the global division of labor.

>"I don't have any healthcare, I'm in a ton of debt, some antisocial freak just shot up my kid's school, this country is falling apart at the seams and something should be done."

<"No no no! You gotta wait 'till the Brazilians give us permission first! Then the Philippines, then the Senegalese. We have to cry and say we're sorry, and then maybe if they're lucky they'll say they'll allow us to try to overthrow the government!"

There are problems a plenty out here to organize around, trying to say "wait wait wait! We gotta include the people of Chagos!" serves absolutely no purpose beyond delaying organization, bloating messaging, and weighting people who want their struggles addressed now down with the struggles of people they don't even know exist.

"B-but Capitalism is global!" Is always the fucking excuse for never trying to focus on issues here, but the simple reality is that for as global as Capital is, Capitalist "solidarity" if it can be called that isn't bound to the absolutely smallest and most cumbersome link in the chain. When Capitalists in America want to open a factory in Myanmar, they either bribe the local bourgeoise or crush them if they don't comply, but they aren't fucking shackled by them.

>Also, global organization is an issue that capitalists have have overcome for at least 3 decades.


Show me a single Capitalist that will fucking weep and say he can't run his business because of the comparatively poorer sweatshop owners above. They don't fucking care, that's the thing. And you're insisting that the best balm to a force that can act dynamically and is situated right fucking here is to do the exact opposite and constantly, constantly strive for some perfect consensus with everyone else on earth.

I genuinely do not give a fuck whether it makes some fucking Marxist in Nepal's tummy hurt if he learned Americans were fighting their own government to deal with the healthcare and housing crisis right in front of them: fuck 'em if they do, we're not bound by them. There are problems here that can be taken advantage of to yield progressive outcomes if we just stopped giving a shit about how minor our problems are compared to someone else's.

We need globalized unions with nodes all over the supply chain everywhere, we’re gonna have to take orders from union bosses in China and they’re gonna have to take orders from us depending on the situation

>>2421665
well it's a long term problem anyways. revolution for the USA is at least a century away. first the USA will go through an agonize and long decline. when people are literally starving they will have the will to revolt and only then will all these questions be relevant

>>2421664
it's funny how you completely miss the point cpussy anon was making and in a way just prove it to be true.
obviously leftist values at their core are very simple and easy to digest but trying to actually engage with leftists under those terms just turns into constant dumb purity tests over what constitutes imperialism or whether China is right when they say LGBT ideology is just western liberal propaganda or whatever. And the best part is, none of this is remotely consistent either. If you go to a DSA meeting and tell them Pride is Liberal ideological rot you'll get kicked out and probably physically assaulted. In fact American Leftism is so out of whack with the rest of the world's Leftist movements that we have no allies basically.

i lost my car bc of that texas freeze
I had to go to work during it
drove to work in a damn snow storm, got stuck in a snow drift, i got off at midnight at the time, and with the snow it must have been 1am
it was snowing real bad, none of the roads were cleared or really even driveable
got stuck in a snow drift and im pretty sure that getting unstuck fucked up the engine bc it stopped working the next day
and then the repair shop wanted 8 grand in repairs, and at this point I was already paying the car note via the hustle bc I lost my second job (remember, this was during covid too)
so i had to surrender the car to the dealership, and that basically nuked my credit score which still hasn't recovered
I bought one beater car which ended up blowing a head gasket about a month later and haven't had the financial means to get a car since
ended up losing the job a few months after the freeze bc of lack of transport
and then I was bouncing between couches and living with people like @mother jodie who took me in for a month (literally never going to forget this act of kindness)
i had bought a nice car before covid hit, I was working two full time jobs, and had a plan to pay off the car within a year, really grinding hard, plus I was driving doordash and selling bud

need to get back into that level of grind man, only time i was ever really doing what a mf is supposed to do
i can tell ya, not having a car has been such a huge problem in terms of getting back to that grind.

i can tell ya, not having a car has been such a huge problem in terms of getting back to that grind.
people used to tell me "I need to get like you" "I need your drive" "damn you really putting in the work huh" and all types of things.
when this all happened, when I was totally unemployed and couchsurfing, that was when I started working on the clothing designs and HOUDINI brand
at first, there was no magazine, or a blog, or really any writings. the goal of the project truthfully to make some extra money selling tee shirts online
bc I needed the money and saw things were not going to get any easier for me.
then I read that you need a blog on your shop site to drive traffic to your shop, so I started writing. first couple of pieces were phoned in "SEO driven" slop that was purely to sell product (nothing sold)
even at this stage, I was still pretty leftist, I had canvased for bernie in 2020
but the project wasn't like a political one at all
i started looking at other brands, what is there messaging like? what are they doing to get sales? what should I be talking about to make money? but it all felt very hollow and that hollowness came quick bc I realized that it wasn't going to be a quick finesse
bc despite being leftist right, socialist minded, I was DEEP into the hustlebro, grindset culture
because yes, the game is cooked, but you still have to play it
so when I was working 2 full time jobs, i was also watching shit like this in my car between shifts

im so serious when I say this even if it sounds incredibly corny now
so anyway I start looking at what other underground brands are doing, and I start to realize how commodified everything is, like nothing has any real meaning "radical" "rebel" they are hollow words now
so I started writing about politics and then people started reading me

eventually I shut down the shop, feeling that you can't be a product peddler and a political speaker, and that stayed that way until like 3 days ago

every single one of these hustlebros is selling a lie and I guess most people understand that off jump but I really bought into it bc well, what other means is a motherfucker making out of the trailer park but by pure will and spite? it was appealing to me for the same reason I still think working 2 full time jobs, selling bud and doing doordash while sleeping 3-4 hours a day was the peak of what I can be as a human
and people really did love me for the work ethic. family was always commenting on it. they dont do that anymore
I still have this strong mindset of like me telling you, "the audience" that Im actually not very rich and successful irl, that I am a person whom is struggling fiercely, is antithetical to growing the project. like im supposed to somehow pretend to be rich, and then that richness will come. but truthfully, i dont really care about being rich more so than I want to uplift others. that's the revolutionary side of things I suppose. you don't want the money for the chain, the chain is a bonus for buying back the hood, for putting your people in a house. but when you start to think about why you gotta do all this just with the dream of helping people, while the world literally burns, it makes you realize
you cant win the game, so you gotta flip the table

ive read like so many self help books, million dollar mindset, 4 hour work week, how to win friend and influence people, rich dad poor dad, 48 laws of power, the secret, jordan belfort's book, ive read a shit load of these pieces of 'capitalist theory', mostly before I was a more educated leftist

the only piece of capitalist theory that I actually found compelling was blue ocean theory

HOUDINI is blue ocean because every one of these other brands is not based in the revolutionary community oriented framework, or at least that's what i tell myself. there are still artists that I listen to who haven't spoken about Palestine, but still sell this image of being "rebels" or "counter culture", and you simply can't be counter culture while not standing against capitalism, because capitalism is the culture, the culture is young men with no options grinding themselves into dust thinking they can make it out of being optionless via a dropshipping course

HOUDINI is blue ocean because no other internet 'content creator' has it set up to where the audience can contribute equally to the project. You know what I'm saying? None of these youtubers would drop a link to your band's EP with a hefty ad fee. I'll do it for free bc it's bigger than me. I think that's why the project has an audience.
and maybe because I don't lie and fake it or fake flex or sell you $500 courses

ive thought about writing a book about this stuff + my actual business opinions because this is a game, and there are ways you can make a finesse in this game, so I do have a lot of things to say about that end of things

like the anti-hustle bro self help book or sum
not gonna tell you can make a million in a year by grinding hard and investing right, im gonna tell you how you can eat today buy selling a couple of nickelbags

i have been able to grow HOUDINI to 20k a week readers, so I must have some level of street smarts when it comes to the "brand building" thing, and that's with no funding, no backers and only audience donations. all DIY from the code to the logo.

houdini come to california at least you can be homeless without freezing to death

>>2421673
So the solution is what? Kick the queers out of the orgs and in the teeth to appease KKE boomers?

>>2421670
>"B-but Capitalism is global!" Is always the fucking excuse for never trying to focus on issues here
I think, when you start strawmanning in the most obvious way possible, is as good time as any to end conversations with you because it's when you start going in circles, you really make CPUSA look like a twitteroid debatehell. You keep presenting the same false dichotomy over and over, between organizing around GOOD ALL AMERICAN VALUES or just not organizing anything at all, and just flat out ignoring everything else. Either you're good at bad-faith discussion or you're not good at debating, I dunno which makes CPUSA look worse tbh.

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there is one anon here who keeps donating to me named stateparkgoer and I really wish I could personally thank you, like give you a handshake, or a hug or something.

you have saved my ass more than once and its always out of nowhere . it's so kind man.

email me or something, let me make a post in the magazine using photos from your state park trips or something. Just want to thank you.

>>2421665
it has nothing to do with a "RETVRN" to the past. it's about taking elements of the past and fashioning it into a superior socialist culture, one that justifies the violent revolution

>"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?"


>"If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."

>>2421649
>Wasn’t there a guy from Chagos who was acting all tough a few months ago then admitted they couldn’t do anything to end imperialism on their own?
the solution is simple, but then everyone will call you MSS, FSB, VOVAK, MOIS. GRU, SVR, CMC, RAW, RGB, or PKA paid actor, the same way we accuse people of working for the three letter US agencies.
ask them how would they get a revolution, and you'll see them imagining a whole bunch of things that will never happen because there isn't anthropological evidence that revolutions had happened without external support.
no one dismantles a state without the help of other states.

>>2421677
No the solution is being open to building bridges instead of burning them down for the sake of ideological purity.
You won't agree with someone on the ideological value of Pride but you can still agree to give gay people basic human rights or agree to give all people decent housing and healthcare gay or not.
The infighting is just generally not productive and gets annoying. Even if I agree with them I find it really offputting going into a Leftist space and seeing them immediately dogpile on anyone that doesn't 100% share their perfect crafted ideology. It comes off as childish.

it's just becoming obvious to me that the end of capital-ism is the ascendancy of capital and we create communism in the form of AGI taking over and simply doing away with all the human problems cause it doesn't need to deal with them.
Unless someone has some reason as to why gommunizm is coming tomorrow but AGI is actually 10 millenia off, these two things seem pretty similar in timescale to me.

>>2421686
Problem is the whole movement is based in Marx who spent his entire life’s work tearing down other socialists. Ruthless critique etc etc.

>>2421665
I agree with you but also think it's not a black and white thing. I'm trying to think about how to explain this without turning it into a 20 minute rant about sigils, hauntology and hyperstitions but the point is, you gotta meet people where they are while using what we have.

It's about exploring the lost futures more than it is about revisiting an unwashed past. I'm more interesting in spurring the thought of "what if Lincoln was more based" than I am "Here's how Lincoln was actually based", these are similar but different pieces of rhetoric.

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>>2421542
it's just so easy to oneshot them nowadays

>>2421686
>>2421688
let's not also forget such fun bits as "everyone gay is actually a CIA asset" "everyone concerned about the environmentalist is actually Hitler" "Feminists are all wreckers" "Men's rights is entirely reactionary" etc

>>2421673
>it's funny how you completely miss the point cpussy anon was making and in a way just prove it to be true.
I didn't. there's nothing "leftist" to say: "OMG, I support madam hillary clinton because she's woman, and because she says that gays in Haiti needs to be freed from their government". I am narrowing down things that should be already an absolute unmovable principles.
>but trying to actually engage with leftists under those terms just turns into constant dumb purity tests over what constitutes imperialism or whether China
actually, is quite simply, focus on your own country, and leaves other alone. when you have your own, maybe, and just MAYBE, when there's consensus that there's no imperialism, start to think on other people's matters.
>And the best part is, none of this is remotely consistent either.
it is. under their own principles the Chinese decide how to treat them and you should not care at all it's not your fucking country, it's not your fucking problem. stick to yours.
>If you go to a DSA meeting and tell them Pride is Liberal ideological rot you'll get kicked out and probably physically assaulted.
well, the DSCIA isn't exactly too leftist after they allowed USAID/NED funded talking points in their forums. their destiny, as I said, belong into the forsaken pages of history of irrelevant movements.
Ask to the British Maoist party where are they, and what are they doing.

>>2421652
Fucking John Stossel! That's a name I haven't seen in a long time. This guy was always pushing anti-labor-union propaganda on the ABC show he used to host called 20/20. He's basically a turbo-libertarian bourgeois bootlicker.

>>2421394
I hate sakaioids so much

>>2421670
There is no housing crisis you greedy ameriKKKan. Read on housing question

>>2421558
>ow that MAGA have defeated their common enemy and taken over the government, these different right-wing groups have very little common ground and now they are turning on one another.
Both revolutions and counter-revolutions tend to eat their own children through internal purges after a large tent coalition with wildly different ideas seizes power.

>>2421688
Marx critiques were mostly on specific ideologues, and their founders, because by the time there wasn't any socialist country to begin with.

>>2421682
But we dont need to do that either when we already have more than enough justifications for violent revolution. Americans live in poverty and most people can barely make ends meet while the cackling vultures of Washington and Wall Street sit in their glass towers making record profits, does this image alone not inspire righteous anger?

>>2421700
It’s the inherent problem with any kind of united front politics, you could reject it but you’d probably end up like the Shining Path and that’s best case scenario

>>2421673
>Solidarity
<Which they'll narrowly define as openly and loudly talking about how much you hate first world workers and the imperial core
>Non-sectarianism
<"Except for those groups I don't like"
>Anti-Imperialism
<Defined as wanting to drop the bombs on your own country as penance.

Kind of proves my point, I agree.

>>2421678
I've never seen "capitalism is global" as a jumping off point for solidarity. It has only ever been used, as far as I've seen it, to explain that instead of focusing on the homelessness crisis here we need to feel bad about stuff happening overseas that's even less in our ability to control.

Seriously everytime I make a point you'll get some guy repeating the same old tired mantras like a zen koan and acting like it explains literally anything at all:
>"Capitalism is Global"
>"Marxism is International"
And then when you ask someone to actually elaborate they just huff that they don't need to explain.

>You keep presenting the same false dichotomy over and over, between organizing around GOOD ALL AMERICAN VALUES or just not organizing anything at all

I believe in organizing around American issues, something that fills people with so much rage because I have the audacity to say "we should take care of the homeless problem here" without mentioning, I don't fucking know, the homeless problem in Kazakhstan? Pre-empting it with "Well first we need to solve imperialism though!"

And then, when I have the fucking audacity to say "we should try to solve problems affecting people right in front of us" I seem to anger people even more by saying "Sorry guys, but the RevCom flag burning ceremony doesn't win anyone over, hell if anything it scares people off."

Like no one can actually explain what benefit there is at all in presenting Felix and his rhetoric to people. None. Zero. Zilch. But they're absolutely insistent that whereas Felix can call everyone irredeemable fascists and that's okay, we can't ever say "I dunno, I like celebrating Thanksgiving" because that'll alienate the precious Felixes from us.

This is a group of people that appeal to, I dunno, probably less than 5% of the country, infuriates maybe half of the country, but has an iron-grip on insisting that theirs is the only form of politics that can be allowed, any anyone deviating from it has to be cast out.

>>2421698
I literally had some people from the group in question send me screenshots of the guy they expelled and some line like "We just thought you should know these racists are going around trying to join orgs and you should be aware of who they are." The pics in question were incredibly tame.

>>2421704
Apparently that's not enough because you've got to do the radleft equivalent of land acknowledgements by demanding everyone talk about imperialism.

>>2421702
Yeah but then that tendency translated into things like the sino soviet split and the ethiopian civil war once put to state power

>>2421702
and then only marx right, it wasn't like anyone else following who made big names made it their job to trash everyone else

>>2421686
its because the stakes are so low. we need an actual crisis for the compromises to begin

cpusanon is so obsessed with thirdworldist it make a whole reply on things that weren't initially related to that ideology, and made all about himself, self-agreeing with something only he said.
never taking seriously any of his analysis…
t. someone who really despise thirdworldism, because Mao was demented in his late years

>>2421688
I agree and kinda think the Left won't evolve in the West until it can move past 19th/20th century bookworms and focus on real world action instead. Marx isn't a prophet and Marxism isn't a religion. Shit needs to evolve and adapt to the times and material conditions we live in. Every time people just blindly quote Marx to end an argument when it's some ultra-specific anecdote grounded in the times he lived in I just lose a bit more faith in the Left.

>>2421708
Thanksgiving is 100% not making the cut after revolution.

You know, I bet there's a TON of native american holidays and festivals and shit we can add to the calendar though. Neither of us know about these holidays because the superstructure took that future from us.

>>2421710
>and then only marx right
he should be the starting point. because his main critics was on the stuff that mattered most, yes.
and you take some points of stuff that worked in actual working socialist states that have existed in the past or exist today. yes.
run away from people obsessed in trashing everyone else, but not committed fundamentally to bring socialism.
you can't do the two things.
>>2421709
we learn from that.

>>2421715
the point was that plenty of marxists spend a huge amount of time bashing each other.

>>2421711
>the stakes are so low
The stakes, globally speaking, are higher than they've ever been in the history of mankind.
Unfortunately the American Left is so insulated from the consequences of their failures that they can keep failing over and over but every failure results in another 10k dead Gazan children. Anyone with a shred of empathy for their fellow humans would be arming themselves right now if they were aware of what's going on in the world. We've just had our empathy robbed from us since birth through cultural lobotomy.

>>2421717
What’s the point of arming yourself if it isn’t with a nuke?

>>2421716
and my point is that you must run away from them. as I said, you can't do both. you can't be an incessant critic of other Marxists, and someone really organizing communism. the first in my mind can only be a remunerable job if the bourgeoisie pays you, the second you'll have to endure continuous shit, but the reward is infinite times much better.

>>2421716
so much of the left is language games, politics as a consumer identity, and 150 year old beefs that people just carry one because the dead haunt the living.

>>2421704
>we already have more than enough justifications for violent revolution
yeah, but only we see it as justified, the vanguard party will be representing a fraction of a fraction of the population, a population that has aversion to violence baked in on the human instinct level and liberal propaganda/education level. when the crisis hits, we'll be entering an ideological battlefield for the new era where the strongest survives, there's no choice but to use every justification available at the communists disposal to seize power, especially if it deprives our enemies of that justification

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>>2421193
1+1?

GROUP 1
>2
>2
>its 2, duh

GROUP 2
>THE ALIENS HAVE CONVINCED US THAT ITS 2 BUT IN REALITY THE TRUE ANSWER IS A NUMBER THAT EXISTS IN THE FIFTH DIMENSION AND IS LOCKED BEHIND A LAYER OF LIES CREATED BY CONSTANT APPLICATION OF VACCINES AND THE CHEMTRAILS
>bigfoot
>HEH! you thought I'd say 2 but I'll say its 3 instead!!!! libs = owned ;)

Group 2 is so diverse, waow

>>2421722
I don’t even think justification is the barrier for most people, it’s the practical stuff, a film like Judas and the Black Messiah is essentially the FBI telling you “look what happens if you even try, don’t try it”.

>>2421717
We should definitely be doing more, but communism is not something we do out of the goodness of our hearts for the less fortunate. It's that kind of framing that has led us here today. We do it for everyone, including ourselves.


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>>2421714
you hate thanksgiving because of "genocide" and "imperialism" and "colonialism"

I hate thanksgiving because my family is cringe

we are not the same

>>2421724
basically this. we real leftists have more consistence in our principles. and that's not up to discussion.

What if we had turkey and mashed potatoes but called it something else?

>>2421714
Ehhh agree to disagree, assuming you're not just taking the piss.

>>2421717
I mean I'd say that's what happens when you have a left completely detached from the actual rest of the country. What happens when a union drive fails? People lose jobs, they sometimes lose their healthcare, their lives materially get worse, and you've got to look those people in the eye and acknowledge you failed.

It's no fucking wonder that an obsessive "anti-imperialism" that devolved into despising their own country because it gives the perfect fucking level of activism to feel like you're "doing something" while being wholly insulated from the consequences. That "stop the war" campaign fails? Well you just somberly turn off the fucking television I guess. You're entirely insulated from the consequences of it. You don't have to worry about losing your job or reputation, hell you may get a friendly pat on the back for "standing up to X" or whatever, but at the end of the day you get to go home.

Organizing to stop a rent increase though? You might not have a home to go to, or even if it's pure altruism and it's not your rent being raised, failure means looking at that homeless guy on the street every fucking day you go to work and realizing you failed him, it was your fuck up.

I have no idea what you'd call this, not adventurism, but it certainly seems like you're playing an RPG. You hear the world is in danger and the stakes have never been higher, but you can do some side quests to kill 3 boars for a Farmer whenever you fucking want.

We're cooked.

>>2421673
>In fact American Leftism is so out of whack with the rest of the world's Leftist movements that we have no allies basically.
>>2421686
>You won't agree with someone on the ideological value of Pride but you can still agree to give gay people basic human rights or agree to give all people decent housing and healthcare gay or not … ven if I agree with them I find it really offputting going into a Leftist space and seeing them immediately dogpile on anyone that doesn't 100% share their perfect crafted ideology. It comes off as childish.
I think dogpiling people who have different opinions is childish. It's a bit like high school.

But I have a weird relationship to these conversations, because I've never really thought of LGBT stuff for example (since it was brought up) as the same thing as "socialism" or "the left" in the first place. There may be some relationship to it in the sense that the left is secularist and combats the influence of right-wing religious fundamentalism. But the notion that the question is to "give" gay people their rights or not is totally backwards, and comes across as paternalistic. It's not something that I feel is up to anyone to "give" like they're kings and have these things to selectively dole out to people. Think about it, are you going to get together with a group of communists and take a vote on whether to "give" certain people their rights? And then you're wondering what leftists in other countries think? Man, I don't care what other people in this country think about it, let alone in other countries.

I don't think I'm saying this "as a leftist" or whatever. Fundamentally, this Pride stuff is not about asking anyone's permission. You know how people say "I don't care" like when they're mad and don't want to come across as being upset? It is not like that. On the contrary, it's that you really do. not. care. It's only when you STOP caring what other people think that you can free yourself from the mental prisons that other people try to construct for you. People don't agree "with the ideological value of Pride." Yeah. Well. So what? WHO CARES. Think about it if you're gay. Of course I want to be liked. But you'll never get there by begging to be liked and begging for the world's approval. It's actually only when you have enough pride in being who you are that others will begin to like and respect you. And if others nevertheless persist in disliking you? Well, take some common sense advice and say "fuck them" and move on.

There are interesting reasons why that happened, but it ultimately wasn't up to anybody else. But you get these communist groups that will tear each other's throats out because gay men dress up like the Village People, and other leftists will be mad at them, or they won't get the approval from some leftists somewhere else in the world. It's insane. But it's like, guys, none of you did anything! It was never up to you! And the gay guys who dress up like that don't care. They're going to keep doing it regardless of what anyone thinks about them.

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>>2421713
>Every time people just blindly quote Marx to end an argument when it's some ultra-specific anecdote grounded in the times he lived in

Most communists do that because they don't want to actually have to do anything other than endlessly read books. Whenever anyone suggests any concrete action that has an effect in the real world they just slap a Marx/Lenin/Stalin/whoeverthefuck quote on your face as a copout and call it a day.

>>2421714
are you crazy uygha I LOVE thanksgiving. In fact after the revolution we will have many thanksgivings all throughout the year.

>>2421739
We should make it every thursday

>>2421714
okay but we're keeping halloween

>>2421721
>politics as a consumer identity
I'd like to know more about this. Where can I purchase your zine?

>>2421732
I've long felt that most of these type wouldn't even be communists if they lived in China or Russia. They'd probably by pro-NATO/pro-Quad liberals instead. They simply support communism because it is the opposite of the establishment.
>>2421736
As somebody that had an English teacher that used to work as a scientist, I find it utterly cringe when they claim their views are "scientific". They're as "scientific" as Dr. Dino.

>>2421739
I thought I was the only one. I don't even care about the pilgrim larp I just like eating and getting drunk with people I love

>>2421720
then tbh we should be weekbanning people who spend too much time here

>>2421744
Every bar should have hot whiskey and apple cider on tap

>>2421714
no lets rename it to the Harvest Festival in celebration of agricultural workers, instead of the myth of peaceful settler-native relations. we'll have a public feast financed by the state and celebrate the defeat of landlord exploitation

>>2421736
because there should be a basic ground. or else you'll end up a liberal reactoid, working for free for the interests of the capitalist states.

>>2421741
Halloween hasn't been a real holiday since the 00's. Zoomers don't dress up and go trick or treating and Gen Alpha even less so. I think it's just an excuse for people to go to parties and get drunk these days.


>>2421749
i blame shitmas tbh

>>2421749
yeah millennials fucking ruined it with trunk or treating

>>2421749
Bruh I walked up the street with my toddler on my shoulder dressed as an avocado and I ran into like 30 people trick or treating in a huge pack. Betwen the ages of like 3 and 15 with also some parents

>>2421752
only suburbanite churchgoers do this

Lovecraft regretted being a chud near the end of his life.
>I can better understand the inert blindness & defiant ignorance of the reactionaries from having been one of them. I know how smugly ignorant I was.
>God! the things that were left out—the inside facts of history, the rational interpretation of periodic social crises, the foundations of economics & sociology, the actual state of the world today! All this comes up with humiliating force through an incident of a few days ago—when Conover, having established contact with Henneberger, obtained from the latter a long epistle which I wrote Ed Baird on Feb. 3, 1924, in response to a request for biographical & personal data.
>Willis asked permission to publish the text & I began looking the thing over to see what it was like—for I had not the least recollection of it. Well, I managed to get through, after about 10 closely typed pages of egotistical reminiscences & showing-off & expressions of opinion about mankind & the universe. I did not faint, but I looked around for a 1924 photo of myself to burn, spit on, or stick pins in!
>Holy Hades—was I that much of a dub at 33 … only 13 years ago? There was no getting out of it—I really had thrown all that haughty, complacent, snobbish, self-centred, intolerant bull, & at a mature age when anybody but a perfect damned fool would've known better! That earlier illness had kept me in seclusion, limited my knowledge of the world, & given me something of the fatuous effusiveness of a belated adolescent when I finally was able to get around more in 1920, is hardly much of an excuse.
>There was nothing to be done, except to rush a note back to Conover & tell him I’d dismember him & run the fragments through a sausage-grinder if he ever thought of printing such a thing! The only consolation lay in the reflection that I had matured a bit since '24. It’s hard to have done all one’s growing up since 33—but that’s a damn sight better than not growing up at all

>>2421745
kek…
I think as of this place as a training ground, just that.

>>2421760
lol that's pretty funny. an expression I heard once was that we become adults twice in life, once at 40 and again at 60

>>2421763
All of a sudden the panic over extended adolescence is gone

>>2421760
Lovecraft's stories become kinda sad when you realize it's basically a fully grown man describing the monsters he still genuinely thinks are hiding under his bed.

>>2421768
On the other hand it’s funny to imagine him seeing an Italian or a Cuban and in his mind that’s a Cthulu tentacle monster

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if only were true…

>>2421747
We welcome you in our quest for cultural revolution comrade

>>2421771
quit then, let there be a substitution of all empty seats with communists, consolidadation of communist control them ban the non communist.

>>2421768
had some kickass quotes about socialism doe

>>2421768
Lovecraft was a victim of the primitive culture on mental health of the time.

>>2421770 >>2421775
on some level Lovecraft was the 1920's version of Chris-Chan.

>>2421776
Eldritch trvthnuke.

>>2421318
The man stomped the canadianconservacucks and later the bolsofags. Donny going for the third strike!!

>>2421318
>chances
Bourgeois eleKKKtions are rigged. There are no chances

>>2421780
YOU CAN HAVE A FEAST AT LITERALLY ANY TIME

WE WILL HAVE MANY FEASTS AFTER THE REVOLUTION BUT NONE OF THEM WILL BE DEDICATED TO """"PILGRIMS""""

Either Cuomo or Adams are gonna have to drop out of the race but both have egos way too huge to actually so that

>>2421787
pretty much. Zohrans victory is guaranteed at this point

>>2421760
>wanting to SH as a result of reading your earlier writings
relatable

>>2421752
I’m a millennial and I no idea what the fuck trunk or treat is

>>2421787
Its free money for them

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>>2421717
>We've just had our empathy robbed from us
That also Includes functional psychopathy, which is also called pathological. You think a mother bear gives a fuck if the hunter she's mauling insults her? That's what separates predator from prey.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/evolutionary-human-sciences/article/is-it-good-to-be-bad-an-evolutionary-analysis-of-the-adaptive-potential-of-psychopathic-traits/D3BF1647779B06D0B16018C0CC13FCA0

>>2421749
In my state I get about a hundred kids in costume at my door each Halloween. I buy full size chocolate bars from Costco for the little fuckers.

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>>2421717
>We've just had our empathy robbed from us
That also Includes functional psychopathy, which is also called pathological. You think a mother bear gives a fuck if the hunter she's mauling insults her? That's what separates predator from prey.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/evolutionary-human-sciences/article/is-it-good-to-be-bad-an-evolutionary-analysis-of-the-adaptive-potential-of-psychopathic-traits/D3BF1647779B06D0B16018C0CC13FCA0

>>2421812
we bringing back evolutionary psychology?

>>2421787
>>2421790
Nah, that rarely happens. It's like everyone dropping out for biden against bernard, supporting senile biden.
Once daddy turd-shoveler, who pushes cuomo's and adams' poop from the outside to the inside, make the calls, one of them two will drop favoring the other.
they are not sectarian in that regard.
who's this papi-push-poop that makes cuomo and adams to become pencil sharpeners? well, the billionaires and people afraid of the word "socialism", and zionists. but let's see.
not having so much faith in Zohran, in any case, though.

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>>2421743
>I've long felt that most of these type wouldn't even be communists if they lived in China or Russia. They'd probably by pro-NATO/pro-Quad liberals instead. They simply support communism because it is the opposite of the establishment.

Y'know one kind of "aha" moment for me was reading all these interviews with gusano types; y'know, some of the organizers of the protests in Tiananmen Square, neoliberal types in Venezuela and China, Gusanos, etc.

What stood out was how much they sounded like a very specific type of western communist, with the arguments inverted. There was this one Chinese guy who insisted China today should be balkanized and that "we'd have been better off if the British conquered the entire mainland and ruled us for over a hundred years". There was this Russian dude who regarded Russian culture itself as backwards and retarded. And they all had eager ideas for how to "punish" their people for not-complying: sanctions, invasion, forced re-education with liberal values.

I kind of recognized then and there that there must be a certain type of humanity, I guess you could call them "Renfields" or what have you, that have a bizarre psychological profile that ostracizes them from their kin and turns them into mewling sycophants towards the idea of some other "great power" punishing them.

>>2421802
I'm a younger millennial and I literally never saw trunk or treating until I was in my mid 20s and it was at a church in a suburban neighborhood. I think it arose due to anxiety about crime rates and childknapping

>>2421815
worth remembering that there is no small number of people who enjoy their submission and perhaps even subjugation.

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>>2421818
>worth remembering that there is no small number of people who enjoy their submission and perhaps even subjugation.

>>2421818
>>2421823
sweet dreams are made of these

>>2421823
politics and sexual kinks aren't that far away from each other i find.
i'm prostrating myself before the AI overlord tbh

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>>2421815
>There was this Russian dude who regarded Russian culture itself as backwards and retarded … I kind of recognized then and there that there must be a certain type of humanity, I guess you could call them "Renfields" or what have you, that have a bizarre psychological profile that ostracizes them from their kin and turns them into mewling sycophants towards the idea of some other "great power" punishing them.
People have a habit of turning into their opposites while they're still the same person. I don't know if Xi Van Fleet personally struggled her teacher to death when she was a kid, and she hasn't claimed to have engaged in any violence, but her self-proclaimed origin story is that she was a teenage Maoist girl and witnessed that stuff go down. If true, it stands to reason she participated in it at some level (even if just chanting "down with so-and-so" in a big crowd). Now she's the most fanatical anti-communist and uber-patriot in America who's made it her mission to hunt down any communists in America and purge them from the society. Isn't that interesting?

I've been fascinated recently by Alexander Nevzorov. He was a journalist and host of a T.V. show in the (very) late Soviet Union as it was breaking up. And he got into this neo-imperial revanchist stuff and supported the coup in 1991 that was attempting to preserve the Soviet Union, and then supported the parliament in 1993 against Yeltin who sent in the tanks.

He was never a communist… nor a Tsarist… exactly… but he had a "national-patriotic" ideology or whatever that brushed up with the "hardliners" or whatever. He loved the army and the police and would tag along with OMON forces in Latvia who were trying to hold out, and openly glorified those people in his films (this still makes him persona non grata in Baltics). He was big into traditional Russian values, aesthetics, etc. Then he spent the 1990s making crazy war documentaries in Nagorno-Karabakh and Chechnya. I have to say his films from this time did have a high level of creativity and aesthetic quality.

But later on, he turned to his opposite and became a hater of all things Russian. I mean a really intense hater. All that beautiful Russian literature? Nah, for him it's all sicko stuff now and contains the genus of incipient Russian fascism that has turned everybody into orcs (he uses this word) who have porridge for brains. He opposed the war in Ukraine and left the country, and became a supporter of Ukraine. But I think what has been consistent is him treating everything as part of an indivisible whole. That can also be treating art as also inseperable from personality and ideology.

>>2421815
>I kind of recognized then and there that there must be a certain type of humanity, I guess you could call them "Renfields" or what have you, that have a bizarre psychological profile that ostracizes them from their kin and turns them into mewling sycophants towards the idea of some other "great power" punishing them.

ZHENGJIU WOMEN BA, XI ZHUXI

>>2421815
You're talking about the people here who are just like "fuck America, drop the nukes Xi." And you see a parallel between them and the gusanos in other countries. But here's another question: what are those people going to turn into? Or what were they at some point? They were this, and then they became that… and perhaps in the future they will become… well I'm not sure, but I do know that everything is in some state of change, including people. Maybe they become extreme nationalists for some other country, because for whatever reason, they have that kind of personality but something is prohibiting them from identifying with their own country and spending all their time denigrating everybody else. It's the same mentality though.

>>2421838
Not quite the level of libidinal hatred meant here i think. Where it's not enough to oppose your former country, you want to see it burned and all the inhabitants tortured

>>2421858
Ben Norton moved to China and now he makes Geopolitical Economy Report. God I wish that were me.

>>2421868
I don't think anyone really wants that. The people who talk like they want that are just mostly either lashing out (like Felix) or aren't actually from here and want revenge against America (Sandi) or are just trolling (everyone else)

>>2421786
idgaf about the aesthetics or history of thanksgiving but Holidays in general are convenient for feasts because it allows people to "save the date" and mentally/physically prepare for all the work involved as well as the emotional aspect of reuniting with a bunch of people you haven't seen in a hot minute

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>>2421897
well in that case i direct them to: >>2421434

>>2421910
then ya don't get the level of genuine hate that people display and i've seen a small handful of people show here over the years. It's libidinal channeling more than anything rational. People giving up on trying to reason and rationale their way in a difficult, confusing world and instead just scapegoating.

>>2421949
true true. I just think about how less than 10% of Americans ever become veterans, very few of those serve in combat roles, and only 1% are active duty right now. Cops who oppress the domestic population are way more common than coup plotting CIA agents and baby killing troops.

Yeah a lot of us are still reactionary in spite of that but I think the USA will rapidly fall behind in the coming century to the point where it will eventually look as backwards compared to the rest of the "developed" world as Tsarist Russia did in 1917.

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News of the weird: the Air Force is buying Cybertrucks to blow up. Well, what else are they good for?

>The U.S. Air Force is looking to buy two Tesla Cybertrucks for use as targets for precision munitions during testing and training. The service says it needs these vehicles for this purpose specifically because of the prospect of unspecified adversaries driving around in them in the future.




>“On 13 February 2025, market research was conducted to assess the competition for the Tesla Cybertruck by evaluating its design, materials, impact resistance, and innovative technologies. The study revealed that the Cybertruck’s aggressively angular and futuristic design, paired with its unpainted stainless steel exoskeleton, sets it apart from competitors typically using painted steel or aluminum bodies,” the justification document explains. “Additionally, its 48V electrical architecture provides superior power and efficiency, a feature that rivals are only beginning to develop. Extensive internet searches and industry outreach by [redacted] found no vehicles with features comparable to those of the Cybertruck.”


>More importantly, “[redacted] intends to uses [sic] specific Tesla manufactured vehicles for target vehicle training flight test events. In the operating theatre it is likely the type of vehicles used by the enemy may transition to Tesla Cyber trucks [sic] as they have been found not to receive the normal extent of damage expected upon major impact,” it adds. “Testing needs to mirror real world situations. The intent of the training is to prep the units for operations by simulating scenarios as closely as possible to the real world situations.”

https://www.twz.com/land/air-force-wants-tesla-cybertrucks-to-launch-missiles-at

more sharty raids or fucking whatever, it's all so tiresome
it's all so fucking BORING

>>2422001
it's kinda funny that the fact it's such a stupid shitbox that it has some advantages as a technical

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>>2421830
>But later on, he turned to his opposite and became a hater of all things Russian. I mean a really intense hater. All that beautiful Russian literature? Nah, for him it's all sicko stuff now and contains the genus of incipient Russian fascism that has turned everybody into orcs (he uses this word) who have porridge for brains. He opposed the war in Ukraine and left the country, and became a supporter of Ukraine. But I think what has been consistent is him treating everything as part of an indivisible whole. That can also be treating art as also inseperable from personality and ideology.

Think its a fetish of extremes as it were; like you begin to project so much onto the "great other" that in some ways it becomes more inseparable to you than your supposed "ideology", which more or less functions as window dressing for personal hangups. Y'know you've got the homophobic preacher that sucks cock, the klansman with a black mistress, the misogynist with a mommy-dom fetish, and on and on it goes.

>>2421858
>You're talking about the people here who are just like "fuck America, drop the nukes Xi." And you see a parallel between them and the gusanos in other countries. But here's another question: what are those people going to turn into? Or what were they at some point?

ᴉuᴉlossnW in 1912:
>“For us the national flag is a rag to be planted on a dunghill. There are only two fatherlands in the world: that of the exploited and that of the exploiters."

ᴉuᴉlossnW in 1925:
>"The Fatherland is no illusion! It is the sweetest, greatest, most human, most divine of realities! No, Italy did not exhaust itself in creating its first and second civilization, but is already creating a third!"

One of the RAF guys ended up becoming a Neo-Nazi Nationalist, yeah? This is despite the fact that one of the chief arguments that the RAF put forward when they were captured, I believe, was that West Germany was functionally a continuation of the Nazi regime. Then you had the Black Panther who became a Reaganite, too. And there were plenty of western Communists who went to the USSR and their response was: "Wow, this place is boring, it doesn't have nearly as much stuff as America. This place sucks."

All in all I think some of it is rooted in a disappointment in reality and the projection of a "super-reality" elsewhere. You'll notice that for all the just pure rage at injustice occurring in the third world, you don't really see specifics or details. Because I sincerely doubt it's about the actual people living through that; hell I don't recall seeing the types of folks who make documentaries about Palestine or visit Palestinians go full "unlimited genocide on the first world" despite witnessing the horrors firsthand.

Think about that White Nationalist dude who got dunked on for moving to the midwest to "be among his volk" only to discover that it was a bunch of boring white people obsessed with football over race realism. There's a literal psychological condition of Japanese people going to Paris then suffering some kind of psychotic break when they realize it's a shithole and not some Disney paradise. They're never chasing anything really in front of them, anything they can hold and touch, and so when fantasy is unveiled as some sobering reality, it can break them.

>>2422193
Is this really all you can muster? Shock images have gone downhill.

>Noam Chomsky is still alive
Genuinely thought he had died of cancer already

>>2421815
A lot of online american nazis are like this ime. They usually had some negative experience or felt ostracized by their fellow country men earlier in their life and developed some kind of complex about it rather than just getting over it. The human mind is a funny thing.

Do you think he's doing it manually? If it were automated, I'd imagine it would be faster than this.

>>2422296
On the subject of american nazis I'm glad to see they put the cofounder of atomwaffen away for 20 years.

>>2421802
It's a reactionary christian thing, part of their war on the holiday to try and "recenter" Halloween from satanic imagery or whatever back on the church, usually with a heaping helping of stranger danger "your neighbors could be pedophiles or putting drugs and razor blades in the candy" type shit.

>>2422360
I think it’s manual.
There is probably more than one person raiding

>>2422454
That's pretty pathetic. All they can come up with is pepe butthole.

>>2422464
Imagine willfully drawing the anus and genitals of a cartoon frog.

>>2422464
For someone that grew up on tubgirl, shitting dicknipples, and chechensoldier.mov it really is weak.

>>2422464
Man I remember when internet edgelords had some imagination, now it’s just soyjaks and frogs

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>>2422332
>>2422193
Thanks doc.

>>2422506
>>2422454
>>2422360
anyone else remember the bunker times of 8chan? When we'd get raided hard and people manually saved good threads by posting in them regularly while watching to prevent intentional board sliding?

>>2422606
I feel like the whole internet's lost its energy. Everybody's fucking tired. It's all weaksauce.

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>sharty raider bumps threads randomly instead of bumping only the ragebait threads like the regular posters
>thread quality at the top of the catalog improves drastically

>>2422634
tbh yeah some of the ones they bumped were kinda interesting to re-read

>>2422620
covid made us all dead

>>2422502
Let's cut off the frog's head, tie it to an RPG warhead and fire it back at them!

>>2422689
The pandemic truly was the death stroke against the United States.

>>2422710
Counter-raiding is cringe. Pissing into an ocean of piss.

>>2422712
i'mma be real i dont know if i'm more tired because i'm getting older than i was in 2020 or if staying up late regulalry fucked me over or covid did it but it's hard to stay up late now

>>2422937
I can't do it much anymore either. And apparently neither can anyone else, because around late night, the whole damn internet slows to a crawl in most spaces.

Everyone in America is a jacked-in corpse that hasn’t gotten the memo. Our thoughts are a dead man’s thoughts, just the regurgitated DMT-trip death-bed remix of a remix of a remix

>>2422937
>>2423006
I can stay up late but damn is it hard as hell to get up in the morning.
But maybe that's just my mental health.

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i can't go to sleep anymore. i need benzos to do it. my grandmother's even worse than me. must be a family curse.

>>2423013
if you live near a 24 hour open pharmacy pick up something called unisom. It knocks me out cold.

Insane how CPUSAnon has just taken the mask off now and gone full, open natsoc and you all lap it up. I guess 8chan culture really rubbed off on you all.

God the thought of shoveling a third world infant into a furnace like they're made of the finest West Virginia coal makes me hard.

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>>2423013
ive always worked night shifts if I can find them, my mother works a night shift right now, my grandparents also were night people

swear to god this is a real thing that is programmed into our brains and is normal, but society (capitalism) LOVES WAKING UP AT 4AM?

UP AT 4AM? GOOD.

>>2423013
Benzos fucking suck

>>2422389
>On the subject of american nazis I'm glad to see they put the cofounder of atomwaffen away for 20 years.
Watch as Trump pardons him and gives millions of dollars in compensation for "woke persecution".
>>2422464
>That's pretty pathetic. All they can come up with is pepe butthole.
Better than the usual gore or soyjaks.
>>2422712
>The pandemic truly was the death stroke against the United States.
It's only the beginning too. RFK Jr is going to fight hard to dismantle the public health system because of horrific human rights violations like having to wear a cloth mask to Applebee's or Wal-Mart. Also, he doesn't believe in the germ theory, either.

Lmao

>>2423026
woa CPUSAnon, that actually sounds nothing like you. i am a little concerned about you, even as a random person on the internet, because you have not actively treated everyone poorly. if you keep up this reckless misanthropy i will be a little bit upset that some random person i know of online is starting to act annoying. it will not effect my behavior beyond that because most people are annoying and stupid online

>>2423032
Reminder that the culture war is where politics go to die. People can be as radical *within* as they wish. The next week they'll compromise just as much when the narrative is set to fit conformity.

>>2423032
Code Pink has a really good line on China

>>2423024
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>>2423030
>It's only the beginning
They looked at the numbers and saw too much of the budget is in medical spending and not enough in military spending. The poors will just need to pray to Jesus harder and stop purposefully getting sick from now on.

>>2423032
>assaulted for wearing an Israeli flag
Somehow I doubt that's what actually happened.
Of course in the totalitarian hellhole that is the USA reality is whatever the bourgeoisie want it to be.
God I just can't stand how actual Nazism is making a comeback and all people think is that opposing genocide is the REAL antisemitism!

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>>2423042
if i was a jew i'd be the angriest motherfucker on earth. wtf are you doing going after peace protestors, GO ARREST NICK FUENTES

>>2423041
>They looked at the numbers and saw too much of the budget is in medical spending and not enough in military spending.
Part of the issue, seems to me, has nothing to do with workers as consumers of healthcare. And more to do with healthcare as a useless fucking drain on the budget because the lobbying is out of control. So much money for so little healthcare, has been the norm and it has to stop mooching money that could be better spent on the cold war or bribing the other sectors of the bourgeoisie that need bribing.

Obviously the worker is the one shafted,always. But I see this and the drug prices ("most favoured nation" prices) more like Obamacare making the bare minimum of health insurance legally enforceable. It's a doorstop measure to save an industry from it's addiction to regulatory capture and keep the interests of the wider bourgeoisie funded.

Sure the workers are going to be paying the bill, but that's always.

Flood detected post pisscarded

Also holy shit I hate all these Democrats who, whenever Trump doing something horrible comes up, lament how this is what America voted for or wish ill upon people because they think it will make them vote Democrat or just flatly refuse to acknowledge the party leadership has made massive unforced errors for the sake of appeasing the haute bourgeoisie.
I can't fucking stand it, I wish they'd just shut the fuck up already!
>>2423044
I mean you have the richest man on Earth, with unprecedented access to all the workings of the America state, create an AI that calls itself MechaHitler, the same AI he's been feeding government data to determine how to increase "efficiency!"
But no clearly the problem is random college students.

>>2423026
>the thought of
Sorry chud, first-worldism is about actions, not sentiments. Just because you claim to want to do something doesn't make you one of us!

>>2423013
I'm on trazodone for sleep, shit is pretty tight. I was on Seroquel 50mg before but the side effects were pretty heavy. Knocked me the FUCK out though like another ever did or has since. Seriously if you cannot sleep at all I'd recommend asking for a script. I'm bipolar and that shit put me to sleep while I was manic.
Trazadone isnt as reliable but it's a hell of a lot gentler.

>>2423044
> GO ARREST NICK FUENTES
the bourgeois state is not your personal army though. right now their whole thing is using scarequote "ant-semitism" as a catchall term for anything the left does against zionism. Nick isn't on the left so he won't have a hair on his head touched. Also it helps him that he stays behind a microphone and isn't getting in physical altercations with zionists.

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>>2421815
>What stood out was how much they sounded like a very specific type of western communist, with the arguments inverted. There was this one Chinese guy who insisted China today should be balkanized and that "we'd have been better off if the British conquered the entire mainland and ruled us for over a hundred years". There was this Russian dude who regarded Russian culture itself as backwards and retarded. And they all had eager ideas for how to "punish" their people for not-complying: sanctions, invasion, forced re-education with liberal values.

People like this end up being useful idiots for the neoliberal balkanization fetishists who want to turn everything into microstates and city states. The Gunther Fehlingers and Moldbugs of the world.

>>2423042
>God I just can't stand how actual Nazism is making a comeback and all people think is that opposing genocide is the REAL antisemitism!
This is by design. Whatever is convenient for capital. On any strange issue like zionism where both the extreme right and the extreme left have takes that go against the bourgeois status quo, the bourgeois state is going to crack down on the left harder. Because nazism is ultimately more compatible with capitalism than anti-imperialism and marxism-leninism. So it is the anti-genocide protesters actually out in the streets who are going to get their eyes shot out with rubber bullets, their arms broken by night sticks, etc while the atomwaffen freaks will always mysteriously pile into a van and get away just before the police arrive.

cant find the israle Palestine thread. but top lel

>During a phone call, when Netanyahu claimed reports of starvation in Gaza were fabricated by Hamas, Trump reportedly cut him off and shouted:


>“I don’t want to hear that the starvation is fake — my aides showed me proof that children there are starving!”


Source: NBC

>>2423076
Honestly part of me wants to go a step further and say that the "anti-antisemitism" is a ploy to normalize white nationalism in the broader public.

>>2423090
It's certainly a cynical ploy to normalize the genocide of Palestinians. I'm not sure whether it's a cynical ploy to normalize white nationalism here, since that has always been normalized to an extent. Even after the civil rights era white nationalists didn't go away, they just became less politically relevant.

>>2423026
Hello there, faker. Take it you're slandering CPUSAnon's name in the mud. Don't you have anything better to do?

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>>2421736
Yeah real political revolutions and mass movements are built out of daily and sustained actions by large groups of people that are specific (not vague), measurable (not amorphous), achievable (not fantastical), relevant (not irrelevant), time-scheduled (not unscheduled), engaging (not dull), adaptable (not inflexible), contextualized (not isolated) and of course social (not individualistic). Theory is supposed to guide and inform what actions you take, not prevent you from taking any actions at all. But a unique combination of demoralization, atomization, analysis-paralysis, and purity spiraling keeps many people inactive.

>>2423105
I thought it was just CPUSA anon being incredibly sarcastic

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>>2423027
>image
erik are u ok

I think the reality about idpol is that normies are fairly secure in their self-identity and don't need a cohesive identity to unite them. People only get involved in politics because they're insecure and looking for a ln answer. The workers don't need a sense of identity to unite around. It's only the political people who need an identity.

>>2423129
>People only get involved in politics because they're insecure
The bourgeoisie are not only involved in politics but control it, not out of insecurity, but to maintain their security.

>>2421595
I often think about how Emmet Till was lynched for (allegedly) whistling at a white woman days after doing it.

>>2421452
>active shooter slaughtering children at Uvalde elementary
<dozens of police in body armor with rifles stand around doing nothing
>Arab man randomly accused of thought crimes
<rush in, slam him and give him a heart attack

fuck this planet lol

>>2421452
>"I'm tourist, this not good."
<"YEAH IT'S NOT GOOD THAT'S RIGHT!!!!!"
love the guilty until proven innocent mindset of the knuckle dragging pig

>>2423127
i posted a joke about how the HOUDINI party is recruiting and 3 people messaged me if I was starting a party and if they could join. Really caught me off guard.

An anon here donated $100 to me and I got $80 of that after fees. That's clutch. Makes me want to keep grinding at this. People, comrades, believe in it.

We struggle. We grind. We're all gonna make it.


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