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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Treatlerite Reckoning Edition

Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

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>>2437135
Nothing in a cosmic sense, I’m just not suicidal in this moment, nor are most people

>>2437136
In other words they do nothing because they actively benefit from it. You could just admit that instead of justifying your own impotence. Were even 5% of Americans actually outraged enough your parasitic nation would have been destroyed in the 50’s

>>2437138
Germans didn’t bring Nazi Germany down from the inside and I don’t expect that from the US either. You’re completely overestimating the amount of agency any American or German has.

Wish Felix would go nuts already and eat an american baby or whatever.

I would also like to point out that no nuclear armed state has ever been overthrown in a revolution, ever

>>2437142
And likely never will be, either. Any movement that hopes to succeed will have to cripple their nation's nuclear arsenal.

>>2437142
south africa

>>2437148
South Africa willingly gave up their nuclear weapons before the fight against apartheid was over, also the Boers still have a stranglehold on land and capital ownership in the country

>>2437149
so their struggle was protracted, that doesn't mean that they weren't successful nor that the apartheid state wasn't nuclear armed

>>2437147
>>2437142
That may be the case but that doesn't mean we should lose hope. During Lenin's time no communist revolution had ever been successful at all, he himself expressed doubts he would see one in his lifetime just a year prior to the Russian Revolution. Yes, no nuclear armed state has ever been overthrown in a revolution YET, but that doesn't make it impossible. I'm not going to suggest people here get themselves killed of course, most of us aren't cut out to be soldiers after all and that's okay, but we shouldn't give up the struggle for a better world.

>>2437139
Well, Nazi Germany was able to survive by doing settler-colonialism within Europe. Meanwhile, the American economy is going downhill. The situation is more akin to the end of Nazi Germany than its beginning.

>>2437150
Considering the ANC still hasn’t followed through on the Freedom Charter let alone communism is pretty discouraging ngl

>>2437151
So basically we need the troops in charge of the nuclear arsenal on our side before the fight even starts

>>2437125
I get that Zios want to peddle the antisemitism boogeyman to justify migration to Israel, but man, what a culti-ish culture. Imagine being raised to be a cynical hasbarabot, where the entirety of what you can present of your culture is a facade and you must live with that duality from childhood.

Imagine internalizing from childhood that you NEED to lie to damn everyone around you, at all times because they would all hate you and hurt you and throw you away if they really knew what you really believe. Which is indeed abhorrent and you can not trust anyone who doesn't swear loyalty to Israel. And then you go on like these cunts and try to bait antisemitism on yourself to advance their migration agenda. No wonder Zionist jews require the most absolute status of protected class. And even then, no wonder they yearn for an ethnostate where they can finally drop the facade and be Jewish supremacists in earnest.

>>2437154
That may be easier than you might think, considering how poorly the troops are being treated by their own masters.

I don't think nuclear arms really matter at all for whether a Communist revolution can succeed or not. No government is going to nuke its own people, not even the burger hellstate, because revolutions are generally spontaneous and go from "everything is fine, just a little political unrest" to "the head of state is fleeing to russia with all of the country's gold" in a matter of days. No world leader has the conviction to drop nukes on their people under such a short timeframe and also have all the necessary personnel agree to it.

>>2437157
> No government is going to nuke its own people
Naive, capitalists will absolutely flip the proverbial table over before willingly giving power to anyone else, they’d prefer outright apocalypse

>>2437154
Well we need to secure some silos to have leverage at some point, but contrary to popular belief it's not that simple to just "nuke rebels". Most nuclear weapons are already preprogrammed with targets and even those that aren't cant just be aimed and dropped whenever and wherever at the whims of one guy. There's failsafes and chains of command literally to prevent the president from just dropping an atom bomb on NYC to own the libs. We have a lot of shit to worry about, but getting nuked isn't one of them

>>2437157
"they would never do that!"
South Vietnam and South Korea both were fascist states who pushed millions of their own people to hellish deaths, all for the power of the bourgeoisie. A nuke on a red city isn't a particularly egregious development.

>>2437157
I mean I wouldn't put it past them to TRY and nuke America rather than risk it falling into the hands of communists, but for the reasons mentioned above that will almost certainly not happen

>>2437159
The failsafes and chains of command would also prevent a militia from using the nuclear silo they captured in Roblox from being operable except for maybe a dirty bomb

>>2437165
And let's be honest, a dirty bomb isn't useful to anyone that plans to continue living in any area even remotely nearby.
That's like, movie terrorist shit.

>>2436885
So heckin true, China should just get embargoed by the rest of the world like Yemen is. Internationalism is when you follow the footsteps of the world's poorest country. Oh wait, no, that's just a 10 step program to getting your government overthrown in a color revolution!!! Fuck!!!

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un-fucking-believable… demokkkrat stans are the most unserious shit there's in this planet.

>>2436875
>all of this American Exceptionalism
just admit you are a spooked person.

>>2437165
>>2437167
And more to the point even if the following weren't issues we're actively trying to AVOID hurting the American people. We're not psychotic neo nazis who want to murder most of humanity and therefor don't care about the long lasting impact of nuclear weapons

>>2437158
>>2437162
The difference is nukes will destroy your own country even if you do win. They'd only use nukes in a scenario where defeat is absolutely certain. In that case, the Capitalist will go for self-preservation so I find it unlikely they'd "flip the table" when it's more profitable to play nice and flee to Russia, which is why every dictator does so and we've never had a case in history of a leader doing a suicide attack on their own people rather than flee. If there's literally any hope of victory they won't use nukes. No one wants to rule over the ashes of an irradiated wasteland.

>>2437173
Speaking of Russia, do you think Putin's government will play host to an "American government in exile" if it was overthrown? It would be an extremely bad day for the Z-posters I can say that much

>>2437173
You both greatly overestimate the intelligence of the bourgeoisie, and greatly underestimate their willingness to slaughter the proletariat in mass if it means they won’t be mobbed for at least another minute by them.

>>2437167
Not to mention I think for a dirty bomb you would need to be able to remove the warhead from the missile and who is training for that in a ragtag militia?

>>2437176
So, your answer to the prospect of the bourgeoisie being defeated by the proletariat is that the bourgeoisie will just cut their own throats huh. Great insight, thanks.

>>2437177
A dirty bomb can be made from any explosive and radioactive material. You can construct one with the stuff you get at home depot.

>>2437179
Nobody is entirely rational, power and money will rot your cognition in a similar manner to long term drug/alcohol use

>>2437181
Sure but I don’t think strapping cylinders full of nails and fertilizer is gonna affect an ICBM a theoretical Ameican People’s Army has just captured

>>2437139
First off, there was a real, tangible resistance against Hitler, often taking the form of armed struggle, from the very beginning of the Nazi ascendance to the end of the regime. The Communists (and unlike you, they are worthy of the name) NEVER stopped fighting, even as they were being put into the death camps. They were in fact the first victims of said camps, and it did not break their resistance.

Secondly, no foreign army is coming to save you. Not only is there no red army anymore, but even if there was the oceans insulate America and make an invasion not just unlikely but utterly impossible. No one will do this for you, you must do it yourself.

>>2437179
>your answer to the prospect of the bourgeoisie being defeated by the proletariat is that the bourgeoisie will just cut their own throats huh
In a mostly accidental manner, while trying to cut our own throats as well.

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what mental illness do new yorkers have that makes them believe everything in their shitty city is special and unique? im in the third world and this is everywhere too

>>2437184
I’m not saying the White Rose were bad people, but they didn’t bring the regime down

>>2437191
He’s saying that they were willing to die trying to bring down a regime that was objectively less genocidal and a threat to the world than America, yet you remain inactive and making excuses

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>>2437192
Because action for action’s sake would be the same type of narcissism that the Weather Underground were engaging in. Qassam, Quds, and Al Aqsa will win the fight for Palestine, not any American activist.

>>2437190
>someone from location X writes a shitty article saying bullshit Y
<what mental illness do people from X have that makes them believe Y???

>>2437196
ok new yorker

>>2437201
not even close retard

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>>2437134
>Also i hope this doesn't come off antisemitic, but I can't be the only one, who noticed, that these petite bourgeoise whites use their jewish religion to once in a life time also be an "oppressed victim" like Amy Schumer does.

>The history of oppression against jews is long and horrible, but I can't imagine, that Schumer or these girls, ever faced any kind of oppression due to their religion, as they appear as predominantly (very) white.

you don't have to act like you're on trial here. this is leftypol not reddit. If anything some of the people here will call you "Shlomo" for even apologizing like this

>>2437134
imagine raising your daughter and brainwashing her to crybully people like this

>>2437168
I know I'm right because every response is either deflection or else rambling about a bunch of unrelated nonsense like this.

>>2437215
how do you feel about this: >>2436853

>>2436147
>“the Chinese and Jewish people each possess a long history and an ancient civilization, and enjoy a time-honored friendship that continues to flourish.”

>This raises a key question: how did “Jewish” shift from being a religious identity to a civilization? Such language aligns with Zionist discourse, framing Israel not just a state, but as the homeland of Jews worldwide.

>By portraying Israel as an “Jewish civilization”
What a dishonest article


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