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>>2433807FRIENDLY REMINDER TO FILTER GLOWTARDS >>2435951I hope all Americans suffer horribly.
I hope nothing happens to their ruling class though.
This is my ideology
>>2435983yeah it's randy fine
you're not on trial dude, it's ok
>>2436122America is a big continent containing many weapons, with many shootings.
I genuinely have no idea, it's not on my euro news.
Also you have legionella
Love to hate Amerikkka
Has China’s solidarity with the Palestinians died in Gaza?
Dr Razan Shawamreh
Nineteen billion dollars —that’s how much China sold in goods to Israel during the genocidal Gaza war, making it Israel’s top trading partner in 2024, ahead the U.S., which exported nine billion. That ten billion gap speaks louder than Beijing’s public statements.
While Israel’s genocide in Gaza continues, China’s new ambassador to Israel, Xiao Junzheng, marked his arrival on 29 November 2024, with an op-ed in Israel Hayom. Titled “Taking a long view and working in joint hands for a new chapter,” it focused less on Palestinian suffering and more on optimism about deepening ties with Israel.
He describes the relationship as rooted in the idea that “the Chinese and Jewish people each possess a long history and an ancient civilization, and enjoy a time-honored friendship that continues to flourish.”
This raises a key question: how did “Jewish” shift from being a religious identity to a civilization? Such language aligns with Zionist discourse, framing Israel not just a state, but as the homeland of Jews worldwide.
By portraying Israel as an “Jewish civilization” and referring to it as the “Jewish state,” China is adopting the core ideological framing of Zionism—a shift with deep political implications.
This is not new; since normalizing relations in 1992, China has consistently portrayed Israel as an ancient “Jewish state,” sidestepping its reality as a settler-colonial project in Palestine.
What’s alarming is the timing: China uses this rhetoric amid an ongoing genocide in Gaza. While it speaks of Palestinian rights at the UN, it simultaneously affirms Israel’s legitimacy with language echoing Zionist logic.
This exposes two Chinas: one at the UN calling for a ceasefire and a two-state solution, and another praising Israel as a “Jewish state,” avoiding the word genocide, and speaking of “working in joint hands” with Israel.
How can China avoid blame for reinforcing Israel’s far-right, which uses Israel the “Jewish state,” narrative to justify Gaza’s erasure and the West Bank occupation?
From Vetoes to Drones
Despite popular belief, China and the U.S. have taken similar positions on Palestine—not just during the current war, but overall. Neither has used the term genocide. Both mildly criticize Israeli settlements but continue investing in their expansion. The support the Zionist narrativethat frames Israel as the legitimate representative of the “Jewish people” and defend its “right to exist,” while ignoring Israel’s settler-colonial origins.
While the U.S. arms Israel, China largely stays silent, even avoiding U.S. military aid to Israel from its official documents. Beijing’s criticism is limited to U.S. vetoes at the UN Security Council.
This silence reflects China’s growing complicity, especially through its private sector. Chinese-made drone parts are now embedded in Israeli military systems. A recent Israeli Defense Ministry tender for five thousand FPV suicide drones, for use in Gaza and the West Bank, names HQProp (China) as the exclusive propeller supplier and Team Blacksheep (Hong Kong), as the only approved supplier of communication modules. These are essential components for striking Palestinian targets, with no restrictions on their use.
DJI, the world’s leading drone maker, has seen its drones used by Israeli forces for surveillance and military purposes. Though DJI claims its products aren’t for combat, their presence contradicts China’s diplomatic calls for ceasefire.
This contradiction extends to language. “Shalom” has been used cynically by both Chinese and American officials. Donald Trump used it mockingly after ordering the arrest of pro-Palestinian students, while, Xiao praised the term as reflecting Israel’s peaceful nature, saying: “The first Hebrew word I encountered is ‘Shalom’, which not only serves as a greeting but also carries the Jewish people’s long desire for peace since ancient times.”
The West Moves—China Stays Still
On Israel, it is not the “West versus the rest,”—it’s the West, the U.S., and China together versus the rest.
Ironically, several Western countries complicit in Israel’s genocidal war have recently shifted. The UK summoned the Israeli ambassador and suspended the talks on the free trade deal; meanwhile, China’s ambassador reassured Israeli that “China’s new development will bring new opportunities to Israel.”
China’s BRICS partners, Brazil and South Africa, withdrew ambassadors from Israel and downgraded ties. China merely reaffirmed that “there is no direct and fundamental conflict of interests between China and Israel, nor are there any outstanding historical issues.”
French President Emmanuel Macron called Israel’s actions in Gaza “shameful and disgraceful,” noting that only historians can decide if it’s genocide. China still refuses to use the term, even as UN experts, international courts, and leaders across the Global South do.
Britain, Italy, Spain, Canada, Belgium, and the Netherlands have banned or restricted arms sales to Israel, while Chinese companies continue exporting arms-related goods as usual. This doesn’t absolve Western powers, but shows how China now mirrors the worst Western practices.
When Israeli forces fired on international diplomats in Jenin in May 2025, countries like Canadian, Uruguay, Denmark, France, Spain, and Italy summoned their ambassadors. China only said it was “closely following the incident” and urged “all relevant parties, especially Israel, not to take any escalatory moves.”
But in the West Bank Israel is the sole occupying power—there is no second party. If China insists on such language, it should clarify who these “relevant parties” are.
China claims to offer a more “just” alternative to Western foreign policies, its actions now mirror U.S., whose unconditional support for Israel has made it a global outlier.
In May 2021, after Israeli attacks on Gaza, China’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson criticized the U.S. for opposing the international community. Now, the U.S. no longer stands alone—China has joined it in opposing the global consensus.
China’s posture increasingly resembles the U.S. approach, raising the question: does China benefit strategically from the war, as its main rival, the U.S., further implicated? The longer the war drags on, the more the U.S.’s image as a moral authority erodes, potentially boosting China’s global standing. Why should Beijing interrupt this?
Palestinians don’t expect China to cut ties with Israel, but hope it won’t become another United States—from the East. Yet, Gaza is becoming a graveyard not just for invaders, but for great powers’ claims and morals. Palestinians feel bitter, if not betrayed, and China should take note.
Dr Razan Shawamreh
Palestinian researcher in International Relations. Her work focuses on Chinese studies, international relations theory, Sino-Israeli relations, and China’s strategy in the Middle East and North Africa (MENA).
https://faraamaai.org/articles/loud-clear/has-chinas-solidarity-with-the-palestinians-died-in-gaza>>2436362We live in a right wing world. The Right won, at least they're winning for the time being.
>>2436360Yes, hopefully
>>2436400>>2436401America Firsters simply wants to replace Zionist Capitalist Imperailism with Christian Capitalist Imperialism. It's right there in the name that they are reacting to burger reich loss of hegemonic status. Communists are internationalists and don't support any country being "First"
america AND israel are reactionary and "America First" was always the slogan of knuckledragging reactionaries and imperialist chauvinists
American Firsters are mostly mad that imperialism is acting on behalf of an international bourgeoisie and not a local bourgeoisie. America Firsters don't all necessarily want to end American Hegemony or American Imperialism, a lot of them just want to make sure it serves the American ruling class instead of the Israeli, Ukrainian, Taiwanese, EU, or whatever other "ally" ruling class. They're only "anti-interventionist" in those cases where interventionism serves non-Americans.
And another thing Firsters are interested in doing is revising 100 years of history. Some of these people want you to think the US gov did the Korean war or the Vietnam war or all those CIA coups in Latin America "for Israel" as if this policy doesn't go back to the Monroe Doctrine. Even the things the US Gov did "for Israel" it also did for the American bourgeoisie. Do these people really want me to forget Dick Cheney got a golden parachute when he left Haliburton because he was gonna start an oil war on behalf of the Fossil Fuel cartels? Yes Netanyahu also wanted Saddam dead but there was overlapping interests between the American and Israeli ruling classes.
"America First" has always been a slogan of reactionaries, and just because Fuentes, Carlson, MTG, etc. aren't literal klan members like firsters were 100 years ago doesn't mean that there isn't significant ideological overlap between the Firsters of back then and the firsters of now. None of this is to defend the ADL which is obviously a zionist mouthpiece.
>>2436545Oh yes, that’s what you would call this. “Taking a non interventionist stance” instead of “abiding a genocide”. Instead of “becoming the next capitalist superpower”, you simply say “taking over the world economy”. But of course.
I expect those files to scorch the whole damn planet at this point.
>>2436565Damn, that’s a lot of words that a simple “nuh uh, ur just lazy” could’ve replaced with ease.
>It is not China that aides and abets the genocide campaign with actual free billions of dollars in military aid that funds the iron dome, the tanks, the missiles, the military training, the endless diplomatic coordination and strong-arming, the military campaigns waged against their collective enemiesAnd you are mostly correct. One problem though: China still remains Israel's top source of imports. They may not be supplying them for free, or with military surplus. But they’re still supplying the ethnostate with goods it needs to keep functioning. It aides and abets, just in a different manner.
>China is simply a country that exists in the world america has created And nothing more. That much has been made clear. It may take the position of top dog, but it’s still a dog.
>should they oust america as the top dog,Should they? Or should they fall as well?
>You lazily telling china to get off it's ass is I don’t recall being in charge of a super power, and not using it’s power to stop a genocide.
>shifting responsibility from the real culprit namely america and it's vassel statesAm I saying this? Doing this? Or are you simply just lying and trying to save the ass of an additional culprit.
>>2436584haha I got in a groove anon, what do you want from me? At least you got something to reply to
>And you are mostly correct One problem though: China still remains Israel's top source of imports. They may not be supplying them for free, or with military surplus. But they’re still supplying the ethnostate with goods it needs to keep functioningI am entirely correct, besides all the stuff already mentioned and the fact that you tried to downplay the significance of america's military aid and weapons deals as "military surplus" Israel still imports billions worth from the United states and it's vassals, china only recently overtook it as an effect of its growing position in the world economy. Also trade is not aid
>It aides and abets, just in a different mannerThat's not aiding and abetting, they are not supplying them with weapons or military aid or any of the things I mentioned. It's a qualitative difference in terms of the relation between the political entities that makes the comparison meaningless. If america was just doing what china does and not what they actually do, Israel would not have the capacity to conduct its genocide campaign in no where near the way it is able to now or even likely at all. Not to mention everything they've done to make it possible in the decades leading up to this
>And nothing more. That much has been made clear. It may take the position of top dog, but it’s still a dog.I won't deny it
>I don’t recall being in charge of a super power, and not using it’s power to stop a genocideI didn't say you were
>Am I saying this? Doing this? Or are you simply just lying and trying to save the ass of an additional culpritYes you are and no im not
>>2436595>I am entirely correctMostly
>If america was just doing what china does and not what they actually do, Israel would not have the capacity to conduct its genocide campaign in no where near the way it is able to now or even likely at all. Not to mention everything they've done to make it possible in the decades leading up to this You are correct. One problem here though is that china has its own plug. The US may have started this situation, and supplies much needed military aid, but china is the one who helps keep the soldiers fed and their commodities flowing in.
>Israel still imports billions worth from the United states and it's vassalsAnd yet china still came out on top as Israel’s biggest supplier.
>china only recently overtook it as an effect of its growing position in the world economyAnd I should care why exactly?
>Also trade is not aid>That's not aidingIt is most certainly helpful to have beneficial trade routes
>abettingThe bellies of IDF members would say differently
>I won't deny itGood. They are not above this world. They are not abolishing this world. They are nothing more than another part of it.
>I didn't say you were Why did you imply it?
>Yes you are and no im notI don’t recall ever saying that the United States and its puppets shouldn’t get their just desserts. Not at all in fact. But I have heard you try to say the same for china.
>>2436630Americans in 2024 sold: hundreds of millions of dollars to a state actively commiting genocide
China in 2024 sold: consumer goods
It's not remotely comparable. Yes china should stop trade with israel but guess what, they aren't going to do that, and you have no way of making them do that. You know who's a lot closer to you and you have a lot more influencer over? your own government. stop using the failures of other governments to be perfect as an excuse to sit still while your own government directly aids a genocide FAR MORE than anything any other government does by a LONG SHOT.
Compare these exports if you don't believe me. China trades more with Israel than America does, but America sells WAY MORE WEAPONS to Israel than anyone else. The 2nd and 3rd place are…. FORMER AXIS POWERS
>>2436630China's entire shtick is that they are offering an alternative to the US, in the sense that the Chinese government will not enforce their will on the countries they trade with or *try to impose a political narrative using trade as leverage*
This allows them to trade with the Taliban and also curry favour with right wing European governments at the same time. If they start weaponizing trade to end a genocide not only will that give an ideological favour to Chinese power but also violate their promise in non interference of foreign affairs using trade as leverage.
This is what 'replacing US hegemony' means you dolt.
>>2436642Seriously, why the hell do you think even Muslim countries are hesitant to stop trade wih Israel? Ofc the main answer is Israel's ties to Western neocolonial hegemony, but a second more neglected answer is because trade is supposed to be non ideological. Most governments will not trade with you if you decide to pull the plug anytime you find something morally concerning with their actions.
(Not to mention the principles of recoprocity: most bourgeois states have skeletons in their closet, i.e how Turkey treated the Kurds or how India treated Kashmiris. They don't want activism-driven economic sanctions to pick up traction)
>>2436630Cutting trade with palestine would starve palestinians of Communist commodity. You demand palestinians stave because you dont understand socialist trade.
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-03/23/c_137058111.htm Communist China will continue dumping as many commodities as possible into palestine using the BRI to bypass zionist blockade
>>2436640>Yes china should stop trade with israel but guess what, they aren't going to do thatThere’s nothing more to discuss here
>>2436642>China's entire shtick is that they are offering an alternative to the USA capitalist alternative?
>This is what 'replacing US hegemony' means you doltNo. This is what 'replacing US hegemony with another hegemony' means you dunderhead
>>2436643>but the factories that make and ship the weapons to israel are in your country and materially subsidized by your bourgeoisie and worked in by your workers. Your working class in America has way more leverage over making this genocide stop than China does.And you know what? You’re right. The American worker does in fact have more potential leverage over the whole situation. You know what the problem with what you said here is? It’s that china, upcoming “communist” superpower, has it’s own easy to access leverage it is simply not trying at all to use.
>>2436651>And you know what? You’re right. The American worker does in fact have more potential leverage over the whole situation. You know what the problem with what you said here is? It’s that china, upcoming “communist” superpower, has it’s own easy to access leverage it is simply not trying at all to usePerson fromt he country doing the most harm: "Why aren't the other countries risking themselves to put out the fire we started?"
Answer: Because that is how the US baits and destroys nations. Afghanitan had a socialist revolution in 1979, so the CIA funded the warlords and landlords to overthrow the socialists in the hopes of baiting the soviets into a costly unwinnable intervention. It worked! This is what happens when America causes problems and then other countries come to the rescue: They get baited into unwinnable conflicts.
>>2436651No, a *multipolar* alternative. We support China not because we think China will push the world into communism but because the US model of forcing its laws and interests on the world has bring us to the brink of WW3 multiple times.
And part of China's alternative is that the ruling power will not use its economy to push a political narrative, allowing China to trade with everyone from Islamists to Reactionary nationalists to liberals to leftists. This is the harsh truth. China's model is not one of active leftist politics but a technocratic apolitical one, which means non interference in events outside of its borders
>>2436610>MostlyEntirely, I have not been incorrect on anything
> The US may have started this situation, and supplies much needed military aid, but china is the one who helps keep the soldiers fed and their commodities flowing inThose are two entirely different things. It's like you are comparing a guy who literally gave a school shooter a gun and bullet proof vest and a lawyer for free and told him "I'll help you with anything else you need" with the guy who owns the supermarket in that kid's neighborhood
>And yet china still came out on top as Israel’s biggest supplier.Irrelevant
>And I should care why exactly?Because it illustrates the functional difference in the relation that israel has with china and the relation it has with america and how that difference translates into israels direct real ability to commit genocide or not in the immediate sense. As in who supplies them with weapons, defense systems, etc, which they use to directly murder Palestinians with
>It is most certainly helpful to have beneficial trade routes Thank you for conceding that china does not aid israel
>The bellies of IDF members would say differentlymeaningless cope, not what abetting means and israel could get food to feed its army anywhere
>Why did you imply it?I didn't, I simply described what you were rhetorically doing.
>I don’t recall ever saying that the United States and its puppets shouldn’t get their just desserts. Not at all in fact. But I have heard you try to say the same for china.Here you are again equivocating them, thereby distracting from the real culprit in actuality, namely the united states and its vassals
>>2436690China can only remain the world's largest economy competing with the US because it doesn't weaponize its trade. If China stops trade with Israel because it is genociding Palestinians, every single one of China's partners will start asking whether they too would suffer from economic sanctions from Beijing if they happen to do something people find morally reprehensible
Like fucking come on everyone has been saying it in this thread. Stop being so fucking blind and not reading the actual responses people give to you
>>2436660What is this cope bro? They may not have started the fire, but they certainly are bringing in some firewood to keep it burning.
>>2436661>Ok American go join the anti-imperialist US miltiary and lobby for anti-imperialist war against imperialist china to make them stop trading with IsraelCan your mind not comprehend that I am not pro American either?
>>2436662>No, a *multipolar* alternativeMultipolar capitalist alternative.
>We support China not because we think China will push the world into communism>apolitical>will not use its economy to push a political narrative>allowing China to trade with everyone from Islamists to Reactionary nationalists to liberals to leftistsI don’t even need to say anything here.
>>2436663>EntirelyMostly
>Those are two entirely different things. Nah.
>It's like you are comparing a guy who literally gave a school shooter a gun and bullet proof vest and a lawyer for free and told him "I'll help you with anything else you need" with the guy who owns the supermarket in that kid's neighborhoodThis is a terrible analogy. It is not like this. China is not just the guy who owns the supermarket, and you know that.
>IrrelevantYou fucking wish
>Thank you for conceding that china does not aid israelI didn’t concede anything. I simply stated that’s China’s decision to do beneficial trade with Israel was very helpful to Israel.
>Because it illustrates the functional difference in the relation that israel has with china and the relation it has with america and how that difference translates into israels direct real ability to commit genocide or not in the immediate sense. As in who supplies them with weapons, defense systems, etc, which they use to directly murder Palestinians withYou still haven’t explained why. Why should I care when they’re dealing with an ethnostate committing a genocide?
>meaningless cope>israel could get food to feed its army anywhere You. Wish.
>I simply described what you were rhetorically doing. So you implied it.
>Here you are again equivocating themAnd rightfully so.
>thereby distracting from the real culprit in actuality, namely the united states and its vassalsThere you go lying again.
>Israel occupies Palestine and defacto controls its economy (that includes its imports and exports) smart guyAnd how is that working out right now? Are the genociders distributing much needed aid to the Palestinians? No, they’re starving them, and using aid drops as bait. Clearly the way things are functioning is not working out at all, and china needs to take a different approach.
>>2436703Yes anon
You american fuck is not responsible for the life and economic prosperity of 1.4 billion chinese person so you can yap your fucking settleroid labour aristocrat moralism
>>2436712Cracker settler aristocrat moralism example one million
You are literally being as ignorant and idiotic as a first world vegan asking why can't developing countries can't just ban coal
>>2436714without a steady supply of latkes china's economy would COLLAPSE and there would be ANOTHER century of humiliation
do you want that westoid? huh? do you?
>>2436715Yes keep ignoring all the posts made about he China's literal economic advantage is predicated on a promise of technocratic apoliticalism
Very fucking typical for westoid moralists to ignore voices of subaltern POCs so they can virtue signal
Trade is not aid
https://thetricontinental.org/newsletterissue/unilateral-sanctions-civilian-deaths/What does it mean to sanction, to "cease trade"?
It is war by other means
Now some more basic facts. There exist different "rule sets" for the US and friends and the rest of the world.
Your framing it as "just stop trade bro" is at least extremely uninformed. I am continuously surprised anyone so utterly illiterate insists so much on his opinion.
It is called unilateral coercive measures, vulgo sanctions.
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>>2436717Anon you're arguing with someone who's functionally operating on a different framework. With them it's WEST BAD, CHINA GOOD; and while I'm inclined toward yes, China in most cases being good, they'll never apply a consistent principle between the two. Declare inaction is an endorsement for one, and that it's simply smart thinking for another.
I wouldn't sweat it.
>>2436723That is the goddamn point
China's main selling point is that it will not shove liberal internationalism down the throat of sovereign countries UNLIKE THE UNITED STATES
>>2436727ah so genocide they shouldn't follow the UN charter that requires them to prevent genocides? great defense there
>>2436729terrible bait man
>>2436731What the fuck do you think multipolarity means? It means countries can't put sanctions on the Taliban for implementing Islamic governance on their people, it means India won't get sanctioned for democratically voting for a Hindu government, it means Cuba won't get sanctioned for doing socialism at home. Of course you can frame this as le imperialist blood money, but 99% of these imperialist states are JUSTIFIED BY LIBERAL INTERNATIONALISM
You retards would've supported the US invading Iraq to stop genocide of Kurds. Dumbass settleroids
>>2436702>MostlyStill have not been incorrect
>Nah.Not an argument, thank you for conceding another point
>This is a terrible analogy. It is not like this. China is not just the guy who owns the supermarket, and you know that.It is an analogy in terms of what either party supplies, it is accurate. Again you did not provide an argument, just asserted that it's not accurate and said I "know that". So im going to take that as another concession
>You fucking wishIt is, I already explained several times why that is
>I didn’t concede anythingYes you did
>I simply stated that’s China’s decision to do beneficial trade with Israel was very helpful to Israel.This is you moving on from claiming china aides israel, to it's trade merely being the amorphous "helpful". Thus conceding the argument that it was aiding entirely
>You still haven’t explained why. Why should I care when they’re dealing with an ethnostate committing a genocide?Because presumably you are interested in how that genocide has come to be and how it is maintained and who supports, aids and abets it in actuality. If you care so much, which you claim to do
But Im guessing your some kind of anarchist type who only cares about ideals and "doing the right thing", rather than actually understanding the world as it actually is? What else could be the point of all this? Just to troll or smt?
>So you implied itNo, me describing your rhetoric is not me implying that you have control over foreign governments or whatever cope argument you were trying to get at.
>And rightfully so.You have yet to demonstrate that in any capacity and have capitulated to every argument I brought forward
>There you go lying again.No it is functionally what you are doing, that's no lie
>And how is that working out right now? Are the genociders distributing much needed aid to the Palestinians? No, they’re starving them, and using aid drops as bait. Clearly the way things are functioning is not working out at all, and china needs to take a different approach.I think you need to take a different approach in your thought pattern
>>2436699>Because China gives Israel $19 billion dollars of materials in trade. Why is it called "whining" to mention this? Why are you so defensive over this?Because it is. you don't have a plan of action to make them stop. I'm not being defensive because I'm not actually defending anything just like you aren't actually attacking anything. Defending and attacking are real actions that take place in the real world, not in letters and numbers slung back and forth online.
>>2436701>I don't control any government in the world. I don't have power.Do you at least want power? Because only by seizing power and using it can you change things. Get your own house in order means overthrow your government with your fellow working class. If the American government were an actual dictatorship of the proletariat which had ceased all trade with Israel maybe then it could begin to criticize China and not seem massively hypocritical imperialist power distracting from its own atrocities. If you do not support the american government in its current form then criticizing china is the last thing you should be doing because then you're just manufacturing consent among your fellow americans, who always want to hear about china bad but never about how america bad. if you're not familiar with the history of america being massively hypocritical and overthrowing other countries for things it was also doing then maybe familiarize yourself with it.
>>2436702>Can your mind not comprehend that I am not pro American either? We are in the America thread. We are Americans. We should be discussing how to stop our own government which we have way more leverage over from trading with Israel, not wasting our time coping about how a government across the planet needs us to McWorld Police (tm) them into being Real McSocialists (tm)
if america became socialist tomorrow the entire world would rejoice at a period of american isolationism but according to some in here the first thing on the menu would be straping up for WW3 and telling China how to do Real Socialism.
>>2436708Nobody's telling you to shut up, they're questioning your priorities and the sincerity of your concern when there is a target that is much more actively engaged in assisting israel with its genocide than china: america, which sells more weapons to israel than all other countries combined
>>2436742Again, you are talking about international laws trumping over national sovereignity
THIS IS AMERICAN MODUS OPERANDI. THIS IS LIBERAL IMPERIALISM CARTE BLANCHE
>>2436742So moralism, your only argument for why China should stop building its own economy and wage a crusade for the western left’s minority of the weak is an appeal to moralism.
<muh institutions!A dictatorship of the proletariat has obligations to itself first and the concerns of foreigners second, following liberal institutions meanwhile is not considered
>>2436781china doesn't even present itself as being in the lower stage of socialism yet. it is governed by a communist party but in all its literature says it is a government transitioning towards socialism. you can disbelieve them all you want but what do you want to actually do about it?
"The chinese aren't doing enough to help" sounds hollow as you sit inside the same country that sells Israel more weapons than all other countries combined.
>>2436784TURN L.A. INTO FALLUJAH
21 well disciplined milk cartons
Take the shot
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take
Yeehaw, we eating good tonite boys, fried bacon
KILL A COP
START INDISCRIMINATELY KILLING EVERYONE AROUND
>>2436800No. Non interference means non interference. Multipolarity means multipolarity. Struggles have to come from inside the country itself not imposed by diktats from imperial metropoles
See this is why i say you people would have absolutely supported sanctions on Iran or Afghanistan to defend female rights.
>>2436815>Philosophers have hitherto only interpreted the world in various ways; the point is to change it.
<Karl Marx, Theses on Feuerbach, 1845
>[…] it is only possible to achieve real liberation in the real world by employing real means, that slavery cannot be abolished without the steam-engine and the mule and spinning-jenny, serfdom cannot be abolished without improved agriculture, and that, in general, people cannot be liberated as long as they are unable to obtain food and drink, housing and clothing in adequate quality and quantity. “Liberation” is an historical and not a mental act, and it is brought about by historical conditions, the development of industry, commerce, agriculture, the conditions of intercourse.
<Karl Marx, The German Ideology, 1845-1846 >>2436724>Trade is not aidBeneficial trade is helpful
>There exist different "rule sets" for the US and friends and the rest of the world.And they have repeatedly been broken.
>Your framing it as "just stop trade bro" is at least extremely uninformed.
>It is called unilateral coercive measures, >vulgo sanctions.>lalala Unilateral>Coercive Measures>What does it mean to sanction, to "cease trade"?>It is war by other meansYou devolved into complete legal talk in an illegal world that allows genocide. Do I need to state how silly that is?
>>2436745Mostly
Still have not been incorrect
>Nah.>Not an argumentNeither was the original statement I was responding to.
>It is an analogy in terms of what either party supplies, it is accurate. It is inaccurate, it is terrible, and it is a complete waste of my time.
>Again you did not provide an argumentAnd you provided a terrible analogy
>just asserted that it's not accurate and said I "know that"Your analogy does not make sense because it implies only a couple hundred people exist, and everyone but a few people own super markets, including the school shooter and the gun dealer.
>It isBeing the biggest trader with an genociding ethnostate will never not be irreverent
>I already explained several times why that isYou have not.
>Yes you didPoint to it
>This is you moving on from claiming china aides israel, to its trade merely being the amorphous "helpful". Thus conceding the argument that it was aiding entirelyYou confused yourself here. I did neither. That was simply me avoiding your legal speak. Aid and help are synonymous.
>Because presumably you are interested in how that genocide has come to be I already know how it came to be. I am wondering why china’s size has anything to do with it trading with a genocidal ethnostate.
>But Im guessing your some kind of anarchist type who only cares about ideals and "doing the right thing", rather than actually understanding the world as it actually is? What else could be the point of all this? Just to troll or smt? Why don’t you keep guessing? You have a pretty bad idea of what’s going on here.
>No, me describing your rhetoric is not me implying that you have control over foreign governments or whatever cope argument you were trying to get at. So you implied it
>You have yet to demonstrate that in any capacity and have capitulated to every argument I brought forwardMeanwhile
>China remains Israel's top source of imports>No it is functionally what you are doing, that's no lieThere you go lying again
>I think you need to take a different approach in your thought patternThat’s not an argument
>>2436746>We are in the America thread. K
>We are Americans. K
>We should be discussing how to stop our own government which we have way more leverage over from trading with IsraelWe do that already.
>not wasting our time coping about how a government across the planet needs us to McWorld Police (tm) them into being Real McSocialists (tm)Ruthless critique of everything is integral to build up of the communist movement. If you can’t handle that, the doors the other way.
>if america became socialist tomorrow the entire world would rejoice at a period of american isolationismThis is an international movement
>but according to some in here the first thing on the menu would be straping up for WW3 and telling China how to do Real Socialism.We have no interest in imperial war 3, only global communist revolution.
>>2436852No, because BDS is a civil society initiative
I oppose ALL moralization of foreign affairs. No matter for what purpose. If you are not you are essentially being a moralizer who thinks that you can do imperialism for the right purpose
>>2436835Speaking of which, I visited the belly of the beast earlier today and I can give you a ground report
Surprisingly, this "occupation" despite how bad it looks on the news and the incidents being posted on social media wasn't present for the most part. The only places we saw national guard were around the Lincoln Memorial area, apparently they were taking selfies. They're actively avoiding the actual "high crime" areas in favor of standing around looking tough and setting up random checkpoints where they kidnap people on a whim. Other than that they're just hanging around the touristy areas projecting a show of strength.
Basically a lot of this is more for show than anything else, though it's undeniably being used as a test case for other cities and I have no doubt that they'll crack down harder in areas further away from the capital. The only reason they're not going sicko mode on everyone in the city right now is because nearly everyone in DC, police included, hates the Trump administration and most of the national guard that they've brought in is pretty apathetic. Of course this will change once the units from West Virginia arrive, they're absolutely going to try and shoot people
>>2436869I will support the US CUTTING ALL AID TO ISRAEL
That will not only destroy the genocidal Israeli state in one stroke of pen but also remove legitimacy from moral liberal imperialism
>>2436875It's good to sell Krakkk to Amerikkkrakkkers
From this we can see everything depends on context.
Is crakkk bad from a health standpoint? Sure
But it also weakens your society which is good.
>>2436774>you should embargo genocidal powers because they might get mad and attack youDo you beleive in revolution ? Because ruling classes will respond with violence when try to usurp them from power
Also the irony of an anti imperialist using the justifications of the imperialist junta of japan to start a war, to bolster his argument.
>>2436881No actually you are right
Let's just blow up the world, be done with it
The point is like the "containment" of Japan, the containment of the rabid beast that is Amerikkka has to be done carefully, very carefully.
And unlike WW2, we won't walk away from the next iteration quite so unscathed.
And you are Japan in this analogy, good god. I am really trying to get you to see, here, see.
>>2436890US will attack China, is already attacking China
If China is not careful, we might all fry.
So be thankful for your enemy and their extreme levels of caution maybe?
Kids these days, ungrateful
>>2436887ZOG isn't real but
>Israelis are immune to American laws, including child sex trafficking, which they somehow keep getting busted for>Criticizing Israel will get you arrested for antisemitism>Desecrating the Israeli flag will get you a hate crime charge>Our executive branch is 100% nothing but Zionists>Our congress is 99% Zionists and not being a Zionist has a 99% chance of losing you reelection even if you have no Jewish constituents>Boycotting Israel will get your business shut down by the US government. BDS is literally illegal.>Having any anti-Israel posts in your internet history will get you deported and/or your visa denied upon entering the countryZOG isn't real though because some contrarian on leftypol said so.
>>2436899Agreed, burgers deserve everything they're getting. The humiliation of being a vassal to Israel drives them insane.
Zog is still real though even if admitting it makes rightoids nod in agreement while subconsciously seething. From a strategic view pushing zog is probably the most successful play for the Left just because it's the one thing that gets rightoids to break with zionism out of embarrassment. Spamming ZION DON on /pol/ was so fucking funny.
>>2436906So in short, all hope for acceleration is pinned on a state where college football is more popular than professional.
Of course the trouble is that youth recruitment is also being ramped up by Active Clubs who are trying to integrate themselves with ICE. They'll be far less skilled of course but they'll be willing to murder people for the sake of accelerating the coming race war or whatever.
>>2436827>Neither was the original statement I was responding to.Yes it was lol, not only are lazy in your politics, you're lazy in your arguments too
>It is inaccurate, it is terrible, and it is a complete waste of my time>And you provided a terrible analogyIll take these non arguments that as another concession
>Your analogy does not make sense because it implies only a couple hundred people exist, and everyone but a few people own super markets, including the school shooter and the gun dealer.That's not how an analogy works you autistic retard, you don't have to accept the logic of the whole world of the analogy, this isn't the MCU. You look at the specific thing the analogy is trying to describe, in this case, what either party provides to and how culpable they are in aiding and abetting a horrific massacre
>Being the biggest trader with an genociding ethnostate will never not be irreverentYou asserting some kind of essential relevance to "being the biggestest trader" does not make it so, as you have not demonstrated that relevance in any way.
>You have notI did, you did not provide counter arguments and thus conceded them to me.
>Point to itI explained all your concessions as they happened. Im not going to keep repeating myself. You can read back the posts
>You confused yourself here. I did neither. That was simply me avoiding your legal speak. Aid and help are synonymous.Well firstly to aid someone or something implies a certain level of intentionality and culpability than an action you do being helpful to something else doesn't have. But even if I were to grant that, in that case you just reasserted your initial argument, that aid is trade, which it's not. The argument I presented for that remains unaddressed, therefor it's still conceded
>I already know how it came to be. I am wondering why china’s size has anything to do with it trading with a genocidal ethnostateBecause that growth in size is the reason america might lose its hegemonic status and thus will lose out in its capacity in funding its genocidal imperialist pet project, unlike China who would fund genocidal colonial projects like that, as it is demonstrating by not now nor ever having done that or showing any intention of wanting to do so
>Why don’t you keep guessing? You have a pretty bad idea of what’s going on here.Well it's clear you're not into analyzing the material world and its structures so idk what else it could be really
>So you implied it>There you go lying againWe've been over this already
>That’s not an argumentThat's the first correct thing you've said all day. It was a suggestion, my next suggestion is for you to neck yourself you retard
>>2436827What do you think would happen if China stopped all trade with Israel?
The U.S. would go to war with China immediately
>>2436899based post.
0 deflection on blames, 0 deflection on who bears responsibilities.
>>2436919>So in short, all hope for acceleration is pinned on a state where college football is more popular than professionalNot quite. I see more opportunities on the horizon for all over the country.
>Of course the trouble is that youth recruitment is also being ramped up by Active Clubs who are trying to integrate themselves with ICE. They'll be far less skilled of course but they'll be willing to murder people for the sake of accelerating the coming race war or whatever.That is something we need to keep a closer eye on and disrupt.
>>2436783if that were true, then Palestine itself is at blame for its own genocide.
you are simply a retarded radlib.
>>2436939see:
>>2436940don't deflect on blames.
>>2436946Tojo we been over this
I am really tired now
But to me it is the opposite
It just has demonstrated sadly that for all your (speaking of amerikan leftists etc.) cries of fascism, Trump dictator–
You have not understood how parallel to Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan you are
Never truly understood. First there is appeasement. Then sanctions, then war.
And do keep in mind nr 3 is not quite as low-stakes as 2.
You know, two was a fucking cakewalk. And Cold War 1? Well, we have forgotten, cause you "beat" the enemy.
The second cold war is at the same time absolutely dominating your head/ideology yet you have not understood it, not at all
This is terror, terror baked into the system.
>>2436960God is dead, it does not matter what you believe. Also I will not be tricked by cheap tricks.
Lemme think about that. See you tomorrow, KKKolonizer
Why China Must Drop Iran and Embrace Israel
Two ancient civilizations, united by shared trauma, must now unite in moral leadership.
Rabbi Shmuley Boteach
https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/opinion/382991/why-china-must-drop-iran-and-embrace-israel/>>2436972> I think it should ceaseIT MATTERS WHAT WE DO
NOT WHAT WE THINK
>>2436972International law isn’t controlled by “other countries, the IMF, the WTO, the ICJ, the ICC, the UN, World Bank, it’s NATO, their lackeys, and ultimately the United States. Your use of the word “should” has the same effect as telling me, “You should take a five-minute shower to save water,” as if Coca-Cola’s reckless water use would suddenly become less damaging.
it's nonsensical, ralibery and a shift of the blame. take a deep breath and do a hard swallow, because that truth-pill can suffocate you.
>>2436980>International law isn’t controlled by “other countries, the IMF, the WTO, the ICJ, the ICC, the UN, World Bank, it’s NATO, their lackeys, and ultimately the United States. Ah I see. So China is leading us into a multipolar world and breaking the power of US hegemony, but if you actually expect this to result in any positive developments (like say, the economic isolation of Israel) then suddenly we're being idealist, unrealistic, utopian, etc.
In an interview with Playbook, Buttigieg sought to set the record straight about what he believes about Israel and Gaza.
Would he have voted for Sen. Bernie Sanders’ (I-Vt.) proposed arms embargo against Israel? Yes. Would he recognize a Palestinian state? Yes, as part of a two-state solution. Should the U.S. pass another 10-year agreement with Israel for foreign military aid? No.
The father of 4-year-old twins, Buttigieg told Playbook that his children have affected the way he views the crisis in Gaza. “For anybody, looking at images of children starving and suffering and dying is horrifying, but I do think it’s different when you’re a parent,” he said. “I think as a parent, you see these awful images of starving children with their ribs showing and automatically, you imagine your own kids.”
IT ISN’T JUST BUTTIGIEG: Democrats across the party are searching for solid ground on the Israel-Gaza topic. Across the party’s still-inchoate 2028 presidential field, ambitious Dems are reevaluating their positions and staking out territory, your author writes with Elena Schneider and Holly Otterbein this morning.
Sen. Ruben Gallego (D-Ariz.) said his own position is “evolving.” … Governors like Wes Moore of Maryland and Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania, both staunch defenders of Israel, are keeping their powder dry and declining to engage on nuts-and-bolts policy questions. … Through a spokesperson, former VP Kamala Harris did not comment. … Khanna said in an interview with Playbook that Gaza/Israel is “going to be a defining issue in the Democratic Party in the midterms and for 2028.”
“Israel is not acting like an ally now, defying our presidents, violating our values, and compromising our interests in the Middle East,” said Khanna, who is calling for the U.S. to recognize a Palestinian state and arguing America should stop sending weapons that kill civilians to Israel.
Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, who ran for president in 2020, also joined Sanders’ resolutions, a notable shift for the moderate senator. “I’ve supported military assistance to Israel in the past,” she said in a statement. “But I believe at this moment in time it’s crucial that the Israeli government must do more to alleviate the urgent humanitarian crisis.”
Sen. Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.) did not vote on the resolution, though his office said the Arizona senator would have also opposed it if he were present at the time of the vote.
Democratic governors, some of whom are running for reelection next year, are somewhat more insulated from issue-defining votes, but they’re still getting asked about it by voters.
In Minnesota: Gov. Tim Walz acknowledged during town halls this spring that the 2024 campaign fell short in recognizing voters’ anger over Gaza, adding “it needs to be spoken that there’s the angst over Gaza and things that needed to be addressed.” He said this month he expects the conflict in Israel to “still be an issue” for 2028.
In Pennsylvania: Shapiro, a moderate who is pro-Israel yet has been critical of PM Benjamin Netanyahu, escalated his condemnation of the leader last week, saying his rhetoric and alliance with President Donald Trump have left the nation increasingly isolated. “It is awful what is happening in Gaza, and we all have a responsibility to be there for those children,” he told reporters. “I thought it was also quite abhorrent what Prime Minister Netanyahu said roughly a week or so ago when he said there is no starvation in Gaza. He is wrong.”
In Kentucky: Gov. Andy Beshear said in a statement to POLITICO that “Trump should insist that the United States, with Israel’s cooperation, provide food assistance to the people and children suffering and starving in Gaza. Such basic humanitarian aid must be provided, while Israel ensures its ability to defend itself.”
In Illinois: Gov. JB Pritzker endorsed humanitarian aid to Palestinians without directly addressing the policy questions surrounding military aid. “The purpose of the resolution seems to have been to send a message that Israel needs to deliver food aid to people who are starving in Gaza, and I wholeheartedly agree with that sentiment,” Pritzker said. “I’m all for us making sure that the Israelis work with us and [the] international community to deliver food to people who need it.”
THE BIG PICTURE: The response to Buttigieg was telling. Democrats have broadly recalibrated their views about Israel — and that’s fast becoming a litmus test ahead of the 2028 Democratic primary. The DNC is weighing two different resolutions on the matter, with progressives pushing for elected Democrats to endorse an arms embargo on Israel and recognize a Palestinian state.
“Democrats — like all Americans, but certainly Democrats — are sickened by what’s happening and trying to hold several things in mind at the same time, all of which can be true: that what has to happen next is the killing has to end,” Buttigieg told Playbook. “The hostages have to come home. And the people of Gaza need aid unimpeded, and all of that should be happening immediately.”
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2025/08/14/exclusive-buttigieg-responds-to-gaza-criticism-00508950Enough with all the nonsense. Diplomatic, economic, scientific, technological, artistic and sporting ties with IsraHell must be cut completely and immediately. Their diplomats must be declared personae non gratae and given no more than 48 hours to vacate their consulates and embassies and leave the country. Every entry of "IsraHelli" citizens must be forbidden with immediate effect. Exceptions shall be made on a case by case scenario for those demonstrating to be dissidents of the ruling regime, members of persecuted groups, draft dodgers and a few other strictly qualified exceptions. Everyone found to have served in any way, shape or form in the "IDF" at any point in time an suspected of having committed crimes of war, against humanity etc., shall be arrested and duly tried locally. Sports team, both national representatives and private clubs, and single athletes must immediately withdraw from each and every competion involving "IsraHelli" teams and/or individual athletes. International sport bodies that keep recognising and accepting them, need to be abandoned en masse with immediate effect and replaced with completely new bodies of analogous scope - for example, if FIFA don't kick "IsraHell" out, then every other footballing nation drops FIFA and a new world football governing body is founded.
All assets owned by "IsraHelli" individuals and/or business entities must be confiscated. Every transactions in shekels must be outlawed.
Everyone that advocated for "pledges of allegiance" or other similar shows of loyalty from non-"IsraHelli" citizens outside of "IsraHell" must be jailed and sentenced to several decades of the hardest physical labour possible.
Everyone that engages in any kind of negationism - both explicit and implied - of the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people and/or of the racist, xenophobic, supremacist, extremist, violent and loathsome nature of the zionist movement and ideology through the current state of "IsraHell" and its various manifestations and articulations, shall be stripped of all his/her assets and put under perpetual arrest at the pleasure of the state, to serve preferably in some kind of extremely harsh form or forced labour; such persons shall also be completely and irrevocably deprived of parental and guardianship rights and prerogatives by default at the time of their conviction.
The Gaza Genocide and China’s multipolar illusion
China presents itself and is often championed as a counterweight to US imperialism and touted the superiority of “an equal and orderly multipolar world” over a unipolar one.
This claim has been tested to destruction by Beijing’s response to Israel’s genocidal assault on Gaza.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/08/17/fkgz-a17.htmlIf China had stood in solidarity with the oppressed Palestinians, it could have called the #GazaGenocide, which was backed by all imperialist powers and Arab despotic regimes, by its real name and imposed a trade embargo on Israel.
>>2436998Sabotage factories and infrastructure that provide military goods to Israel and assassinate Israeli diplomats and politicians whenever possible.
Anything less makes you complicit tbh.
>>2437011In May 2025, China’s ambassador to Israel Xiao Junzheng was asked by ILTV, an Israeli television channel, why China refused to condemn the October 7 attack by Hamas. He replied that China opposed the “barbarous attack by Hamas” and the “acts that harmed civilians” and that he “condemned violations of international laws.” The “atrocities” committed by Hamas were “inhumane, unforgivable and outrageous.” China “condemned what Hamas did on the 7th of October.”
Xiao then suggested politely that the two-state solution was the only viable way to break the cycle of violence. When asked how China could support “a Palestinian state” despite the fact that “Hamas” had been a terrorist organisation and “not a partner for peace,” Xiao replied that the Palestinian issue had been “complicated” for the past 80 to 100 years. Chinese President Xi Jinping’s “Global Security Initiative” had paved a path forward, advocating for the resolution of disputes and wars through dialogue and diplomatic means.
While the US and Israel continue to inflict imperialist mass murder in full view of the world, Xiao insisted that working people must pin their hope on Washington’s political fraud of the two-state solution and Beijing’s illusion of a “multipolar” world.
Notably absent from Xiao’s remark was any mention of the by now well-documented false flag operation conducted by Israel against its own citizens leading up to October 7. According to a New York Times exposé published on November 30, 2023, Israel’s military and intelligence apparatuses had acquired the battle plan of October 7 more than a year in advance detailing exactly where and how Hamas fighters would strike.
Xiao made no reference to the US-Israeli campaigns to starve to death the remaining Palestinians in Gaza or Donald Trump’s actual plan to transform Gaza into “the Riviera of the Middle East.” Nor did he show any concern over the role played by Chinese-made equipment in abetting the genocide and ethnic cleansing.
In 2022, on the 30th anniversary of China-Israel diplomatic relations, Cai Run, then Chinese Ambassador to Israel, explained why Beijing was partial to Israel and its association with Zionist gangsters.
He indicated again that both the Chinese and Jewish people had been renowned for “their enormous contributions to world civilisation, their great sufferings in history,” but above all “their ceaseless pursuit of national rejuvenation and development.”
Their differences never stood in the way of amicable exchanges between China and Israel. Cai said, “There is no direct and fundamental conflict… between China and Israel, nor are there any outstanding historical issues.” The second largest economy had massive “manufacturing capabilities and a huge market,” whereas Israel had “advanced technology and strong creativity.” Their interests were “complementary.”
During his ambassadorship, Cai said nothing about the Zionist regime’s relentless assaults against Palestinians and avowed genocidal intent, including referring to them as “human animals,” “Hamas terrorists,” and “cockroaches,” and invoking the Biblical term “the seed of Amalek” to encourage the extermination of the Palestinians.
He did not blink when Israel deployed Ezra Yachin, a Zionist veteran murderer of the Deir Yassin massacre, to “motivate” the genocidal “defence” forces.
Since taking office in late 2024, China’s current ambassador to Israel, Xiao Junzheng, has begun to emphasise the “shared common value” between China and Israel, as well as why cooperation is in the best interests of both countries. China must cozy up with the winning side, if the Chinese national bourgeoisie is to continue to contribute to “human civilisation,” “national development,” “national rejuvenation” and the realisation of an “equal and orderly multipolar” capitalist system, to use China’s official phraseology.
>>2437016早天！
I shouldn't have to explain to you how to install a Linux distribution, you should be able to look it up yourself
I'm assuming you're on Windows; So you download and install
RufusThen you download the distribution you want to try out.
Most people would rather charge at least $80 an hour, or even for free if they're selling you some electronic machinery they'll build for you, simply because the next questions after I've already told you how to do it
If you have any more questions; please 🙏 phrase them in terms that explain your difficulties and link us the sources you're using as guides, or if it's a chat bot tell us which model, and what your prompt asking it was and give us links to the sources it used to find its answers
China Breaks Silence on Hamas Massacre, Opens Door to Strategic Partnership with Israel
On May 10, 2025, in a rare display of dugri דוגרי - Israeli straight talk, or 直截了当 in Chinese - PRC Ambassador to Israel Dr. Xiao Junzheng made his first TV appearance since arriving in Israel six months ago.
The ambassador finally issued China’s unambiguous, on-the-record condemnation of the October 7, 2023, Hamas massacre. 581 days later. The ambassador even wore the yellow ribbon for the 58 hostages still held in Gaza - also a first, as far as I remember.
Amb. Xiao said China is open to upgrading the Innovative Comprehensive Partnership with Israel to the strategic level.
“China firmly opposes Iran acquiring nuclear weapons,” Xiao says, while arguing regional integration is a better option and “will ultimately benefit Israel”. He dismisses notions about the China–Russia–Iran axis as “absurd”.
Backs Xi’s Global Security Initiative (GSI) as a path to resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Denies Chinese military exports to Iran, while evading questions on hard evidence of dual-use components aiding IRGC and Iran-backed terror groups.
Subtle warning amid US pressure on Israel: “Anyone who bets on China losing will lose the enormous market opportunities China offers.”
https://discoursepower.substack.com/p/china-breaks-silence-on-hamas-massacre>>2437049How did the Chinese people view the October 7 attack? I understand that your country has refused to condemn the Hamas massacre.
[00:45] AMB. XIAO
The atrocities committed by Hamas are inhumane, unforgivable, and outrageous. China opposes and condemns what Hamas did on the 7th of October - this is very clear
[02:13] HOST – Hamas as a partner?
Hamas is a terrorist organization and not a partner for peace with the Israeli people. However, the Palestinian people themselves may be. So, how do you differentiate? How do you call for a Palestinian state with the people who perpetrated such an attack on October 7th?
China-Israel ties [were upgraded] to an “innovative comprehensive partnership” in 2017, so we also attach great importance to this relationship. If it is the will of the Israeli public to make the China-Israel relationship a strategic one, we are willing to make positive consideration.
[07:21] AMB. XIAO
China opposes Iran having or developing nuclear bombs - this is a very clear position.
We [China] are members of the Nonproliferation [Treaty], so we are against Iranians having or developing nuclear bombs
Speculation about a China–Russia–Iran alliance posing a threat to Israeli security is clearly absurd. China has consistently opposed Iran developing and owning nuclear weapons, and has always supported Israel's right to subsistence and development. In our view, the only right choice for resolving the Iranian nuclear issue is through political and diplomatic means.
We are planning to hold commemoration events in Israel this year to review the history of the Chinese and the Jewish people standing together through thick and thin during WWII,
China and Israel have broad common interests across a wide range of fields, including trade and technology. Cooperation outweighs competition, and consensus outweighs differences. China has become Israel’s largest trading partner in Asia and its second-largest trading partner globally [third after the EU].
As two of the world’s great civilizations, China and Israel share a bilateral relationship that is young but also time-honored
Israel is a world-renowned startup nation and excels at making breakthroughs from zero to one. China has strong advantages in capital and market, and is good at scaling from one to 100
I am glad to see that exchanges and cooperation across the board between China and Israel have resumed over the past few month
I hope that through your station, more Israeli people can gain a comprehensive understanding of the reality in China and extend greater support for the development of China–Israel bilateral relations.
>>2437049wake me up know when
Chynah votes in the international political forums in favor of the zionists.
DNC confronts anti-Israel push from party delegates
Jewish Democrats are pushing for defeat of a resolution calling for an arms embargo and advocating for a competing, pro-Israel resolution backed by the DNC chair
https://jewishinsider.com/2025/08/democratic-national-committee-anti-israel-resolution-jewish-democrats/>>2437117Democrats will still overwhelmingly vote for Zionist candidates because "we just HAVE to defeat the Republicans okay genocide is NOT A BIG DEAL"
just look at /r/politics lol.
>>2437123I don’t believe in Catholic morality, the government did all this without my consent and I didn’t agree to it
>but you willingly work in this economy and pay taxesI don’t have the means to leave
>but you need to repent and absolve yourselfSays who? Who died and made you general secretary? You have no authority over me, I have a family to take care of
>>2437121bad poll. this one is better.
Americans believe, on a larger margin, that Israel is salvable. but that's because of the media trying to always obfuscate the relationship between a
state, and the
people composing a state. a state isn't racist because a building says on top
no ոіggrоѕ allowed, it's racist because it's composed by racist people.
>>2437125I get that Zios want to peddle the antisemitism boogeyman to justify migration to Israel, but man, what a culti-ish culture. Imagine being raised to be a cynical hasbarabot, where the entirety of what you can present of your culture is a facade and you must live with that duality from childhood.
Imagine internalizing from childhood that
you NEED to lie to damn everyone around you, at all times because they would all hate you and hurt you and throw you away if they really knew what you really believe. Which is indeed abhorrent and you can not trust anyone who doesn't swear loyalty to Israel. And then you go on like these cunts and try to bait antisemitism on yourself to advance their migration agenda. No wonder Zionist jews require the most absolute status of protected class. And even then, no wonder they yearn for an ethnostate where they can finally drop the facade and be Jewish supremacists in earnest.
>>2437157"they would never do that!"
South Vietnam and South Korea both were fascist states who pushed millions of their own people to hellish deaths, all for the power of the bourgeoisie. A nuke on a red city isn't a particularly egregious development.
>>2437165And let's be honest, a dirty bomb isn't useful to anyone that plans to continue living in any area even remotely nearby.
That's like, movie terrorist shit.
>>2437139First off, there was a real, tangible resistance against Hitler, often taking the form of armed struggle, from the very beginning of the Nazi ascendance to the end of the regime. The Communists (and unlike you, they are worthy of the name) NEVER stopped fighting, even as they were being put into the death camps. They were in fact the first victims of said camps, and it did not break their resistance.
Secondly, no foreign army is coming to save you. Not only is there no red army anymore, but even if there was the oceans insulate America and make an invasion not just unlikely but utterly impossible. No one will do this for you, you must do it yourself.
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