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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

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>>2438521
You only think the works of Marx apply to the white race so you're one to talk.

>>2438531
The average American would gladly die fighting against socialism.

>>2438533
>It’s a package deal bud. If you still have a society that’s reactionary towards gay marriage, you don’t have communism.
I mean, yeah, but Communism is a constant struggle. I don't think China's treatment of LGBT people is ideal, but I'd prefer a society with 10% Communism than a society with 0% Communism. At least China has like…a visible path towards giving all their citizens rights. America has no such thing currently.

>>2438530

My point is that the people who actually make a difference in the world are not ideologues who spend all their time engaging in intellectual masturbation and talking about theoretical communist revolutions, they are pragmaticists who don't think in terms of ideology at all and just do the actual work of examining social problems and figuring out realistic solutions one problem at a time.

The masses yearn for real revolutionary leadership and are highly open to socialism.

I think Felix might be legitimately schizophrenic.

>>2438536
>I mean, yeah, but Communism is a constant struggle.
And the struggle gets worse when reactionaries are coddled, and not crushed.
>but I'd prefer a society with 10% Communism
Not how this works.
>>2438537
>they are pragmaticists who don't think in terms of ideology
The only thing pragmatic about the “apolitical” is how the bourgeoisie utilize them.
>just do the actual work of examining social problems and figuring out realistic solutions one problem at a time.
You didn’t speak of this. You spoke of irrational concessions to reactionaries.
>>2438539
The proletariat yearns for revolution. Leadership is another thing entirely.

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>>2438539
Masses yearn for Elvis.

>>2438542
>And the struggle gets worse when reactionaries are coddled, and not crushed.
this is such a dumb annoying take. you have to meet people where they're at, not where you think they should be. if the American proletariat is mostly working class, fairly religious, and largely multicultural rather than monocultural, then what are you gonna do? continue losing until they decide to change their minds towards your utopian ideal?

Everyday I think about how much money these breadtubers make without any sort of material gains for the working class coming from that money.

You start to appreciate why Lenin had beef with so many people.

>>2438547
>continue losing until they decide to change their minds towards your utopian ideal?

Seems to be the course of the modern left!

>>2438548
I'll never forgive the entire breadtube community because that one guy never finished his Cities Skylines video series about America's urban development. Fucking grifters.

>>2438547
>this is such a dumb annoying take. you have to meet people where they're at
And where are they exactly? Do tell.
>if the American proletariat is mostly working class,
>fairly religious
In a downturn
>and largely multicultural rather than monocultural
>then what are you gonna do?
What I’ve been doing the past several years until I finally hit that breaking point.

>>2438549
The modern left is being replaced

>>2438554
by the post-modern left

Hey maybe gay people can be together and also everyone can get the benefits of socialism idk maybe I’m naive

>>2438553
>In a downturn
Sure but you can't just wait 50 years for Christianity to die out. People are suffering now. And even then, while Christianity is dying, Islam is growing and is just as homophobic.
I'm not suggesting we capitulate to bigotry but simply build political power first at least before going full mask off. You gotta appeal to your audience and build a large support base before tackling social issues that will naturally rub a lot of people the wrong way if you don't build their trust first. Being a reactionary is not a failing on that person's part but a failing of the system that raised them. A lot of people fall victim to liberal propaganda even without meaning to, and you can't treat them like they're your enemy if you want to make progress tbh.

listen. you gotta meet the people where they are. the modern USA proletariat are middle managers who love their labubus, big trucks, burger and the military and hate gays and trans. so you just gotta get a leftist in office who will give them all those things and you just gotta tolerate the harm to people around the world and minorities in the USA because you gotta meet them where they are to get a leftist into power. and at this point you might ask, well what's the fucking point if i'm not getting anything i want?

shut up.

Mao’s Against Han chauvinism would get dismissed as liberal idpol on this board lol

>>2438563
People like you just aren't cut out for organizing. If you fundamentally hate the people around you then you aren't really gonna make progress anyway. Just stay in your twitter bubble or whatever echo chamber you're addicted to.

>>2438130
> we keep fighting amongst ourselves we're never going to get there.
We will be here for a long while knowing the history of the left

>>2438558
NO
NO RIGHTS
NOBODY GETS RIGHTS
NOBODY GETS ANYTHING
I'm huffing and puffing and stomping my feets ooooh I'm so MAD

>>2438566
tvke. vote AOC

>>2438517
Shut the fuck up Red Doomer. You and your ilk are a roadblock to socialism. If you hate Americans and think we're all evil treatlerite labor aristocrats then fucking leave. Go move to the third world and be with "the real proletariat" you fetishize so much, you insufferable, useless piece of shit.

>>2438566
Have you considered this might be mutual? That this person might have been scorned on an idpol basis

>>2438539
The average American would not only kill to prevent socialism from coming to America, they would kill to prevent it from happening anywhere else. My source for this is history and the fact that Americans have done just that.

>>2438563
I think you're just antisocial and misanthropic, attaching shit you made up to everyone around you to excuse the fact that you really just wish everyone but you was dead.

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Gruesome Newsome executing rethuglicans in public

>>2438578
true and real. vote bernie.

Why bother educating the masses, you gotta meet them where they are. So what if they are bigoted? Few lynched queer people is not a high price for communism.

>>2438584
And you're also completely incapable in engaging in ANY good-faith conversation because you start every interaction with the assumption that everyone you talk to is this bogeyman you've made up in your own head.

>>2438583
The fact that Giga-Neolib Newsom is the only one willing to fight back hard against Trump, even in this childish and non-substantial way, is kinda depressing.

>>2438556
Not by any sort of left. Or the right. Or the center.
>>2438561
>Sure but you can't just wait 50 years for Christianity to die out.
Don’t have to.
>Islam is growing and is just as homophobic.
Not enough to counter the shrinkage.
>I'm not suggesting we capitulate to bigotry
That’s exactly what you are saying
>but simply build political power first at least before going full mask off.
I already have political power. And not going mask off is simply what a communist would not do.
>You gotta appeal to your audience and build a large support base before tackling social issues that will naturally rub a lot of people the wrong way if you don't build their trust first.
My audience is not a bunch of reactionaries who want to be babied. And the popularity of gay marriage isn’t something I’m concerned about at all.
>A lot of people fall victim to liberal propaganda even without meaning to
And yet I can already see you wish to appeal to the worst of the lot.
>and you can't treat them like they're your enemy if you want to make progress tbh.
Of course I can. I literally have to.

>>2438575
Yeah that's probably the case, but even so if you have this much resentment in you, whether justified or not, then you're better off keeping to yourself and not poisoning whatever org you join. Communism isn't about fighting humanity, it's about fighting Capital. Whatever perceived or experienced bigotry lead you to being this jaded is something you have to deal with before you can be an activist, honestly.

>>2438585
>Why bother educating the masses
You call it educating but what you're really doing is just preaching a gospel with no room for argument or discussion or compromise. Education generally involves a back and forth dialogue. Instead you just want a religion. Your own neuroses has lead you to a path where your own ideology is infallible and everyone else around you is just a fool waiting to be enlightened by your intelligence. It's kinda cringe tbh.

>>2438586
wym i'm on you're side. u and me brother. the good democrats who will save the world. by voting real hard.

>>2438506
The Naxalites actually work heavily with women and the transgender community in India, and they engage in armed struggle against the megacorps poisoning the earth and exploiting the Adivasi. Also caste is a major issue in India they fight as well.

>>2438553
>In a downturn
it actually already leveled off and is having a slow resurgance which is constant in American history with Great Awakenings.Might as well encourage Social Gospel as the boomer Prosperity Gospel slowly dies off.

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>>2438524
He kind of revealed the point when he talked about Joe Slovo's funeral.
>"That's no white man, that's Joe Slovo!"
I'm pretty sure at the end of the day he wants to be "one of the good ones" or something.

>>2438594
>is having a slow resurgance
No such thing. Not everyone wants to openly admit it out loud you know. That’s what happened in the responses they recorded.

>>2438597
Are you willing to bet the fate of your movement on this invisible "fake Christian" demographic?

From our May Issue

https://erikhoudini.com/#post?id=942531&title=lgbt-youth-in-the-philippines-are-literally-fighting-to-be-free

>Enter Ka Daisy, 26, a trans woman, an NPA guerrilla, a martyr. She carried a makeup kit in her pack, taught her squad literature and math between ambushes. Barangay Tapi, April 27th—five government battalions closed in. She fought, fell, became a name etched in the revolution's heart. "As an LGBT youth, our role is important in advancing revolution," she said. "To change society's views, we must change society herself." Rest in power, Ka Daisy.

>>2438598
Yep :)

>>2438524
The point is to do something for someone other than yourself and right history's greatest wrong. The point is to destroy America, by any means and at any cost necessary.


>>2438596
It must be hard for a white nationalist like yourself to imagine something like that, isnt it? The idea that anyone would betray your precious Volk and act for the good of humanity instead of just their race.

>>2438597
>Not everyone wants to openly admit it out loud you know.
That is more of a cope response. It is like when the religious saw the decline and say they are just too embarrassed to admit they are.

>>2438604
>That is more of a cope response.
It’s not, because that’s literally what’s happening. A lot of people still don’t want their relatives finding out, and church attendance is crashing.

>>2438605
nta but church attendance alone is not an indicator of hidden atheists.

>>2438604
It reminds me of when hazbin hotels insist there's a huge uncounted youth/minority voting bloc in Texas that will turn it blue every election cycle. And then it never materializes and they just blame voter suppression.

If you're gambling on activating an invisible demographic you've already lost. This is why DSA cannibalizes the Democratic party instead of trying to reach out to non-voters, as an electoral party trying to achieve victories through elections they target people that vote. Conversely, if you want to start some kind of Left-wing militia you need to appeal to the people that already have guns, the people that already are fighting ICE, the people that already engage in militant activism online. Usually those are pretty isolated regional groups that all have their own separate beliefs, not necessarily intersectional. There's literally Marxist Catholics in South America and Marxist Muslims in the Middle East and they all have their own beliefs. Communism is not one size fits all.

>>2438606
Correct. It is however a sign of abandonment of religious authority at the very least.

This however…
>But, despite these signs of recent stabilization and abiding spirituality, other indicators suggest we may see further declines in the American religious landscape in future years.
>Namely, younger Americans remain far less religious than older adults.
>For example, the youngest adults in the survey (ages 18 to 24) are less likely than today’s oldest adults (ages 74 and older) to:
>Identify as Christian (46% vs. 80%)
>Pray daily (27% vs. 58%)
>Say they attend religious services at least monthly (25% vs. 49%)
>And the youngest adults are more likely than the oldest Americans to be religiously unaffiliated (43% vs. 13%).
>Also, younger Americans are less likely than older adults to say they were raised in religious households.1 And, compared with older adults, fewer young people who were raised in religious households have remained religious after reaching adulthood.
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/02/26/decline-of-christianity-in-the-us-has-slowed-may-have-leveled-off/

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>>2438570
>NO
>NO RIGHTS
>NOBODY GETS RIGHTS
>NOBODY GETS ANYTHING

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