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Is Venezuela about to be fucking invaded?

>Venezuela mobilizes its militia after US says it’s deploying military forces to waters around Latin America:

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/19/americas/venezuela-maduro-militia-us-military-deployment-intl-latam
>US destroyers head toward waters off Venezuela as Trump aims to pressure drug cartels:
https://apnews.com/article/trump-venezuela-destroyers-maduro-drug-cartels-e33794ebc24d9031e536d132ce205b4c
>Donald Trump Deploys 3 Missile Destroyers: What to Know:
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-missile-destroyers-venezuela-drug-cartels-2115786
>Proposed United States invasion of Venezuela:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_United_States_invasion_of_Venezuela
>Estados Unidos, “dispuesto a usar todo su poder” contra el narcotráfico desde Venezuela:
https://elpais.com/us/2025-08-19/estados-unidos-dispuesto-a-usar-todo-su-poder-contra-el-narcotrafico-desde-venezuela.html

I don't know if you've heard the news, but several US ships have sailed towards Venezuela's coast in order to "combat drug trafficking". Someone investigate the ships to see if they're old to see if they gonna false-flag Venezuela. I know that Nothing Ever Happens, but Trump has already put a price to Maduro's head and these news… I think something's cooking, something's sizzling.

Just making this thread in the case to discuss this, and to see if there are further happenings. I'm going to be honest, I'm getting bad vibes from this.

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AHEM

If you would please consult the graphs

Three U.S. Navy guided-missile destroyers have been deployed off the coast of Venezuela as part of President Donald Trump’s plan to combat drug cartels in Latin America.

A source familiar with the move confirmed to Scripps News that the destroyers include the USS Gravely, the USS Jason Dunham and the USS Sampson. The deployment will bring the U.S. military posture in the area to about 4,000 sailors and Marines.

According to Reuters, the broader region will also have several Boeing P-8 Poseidon spy planes, warships and at least one attack submarine. Secretary of State Marco Rubio was asked about the U.S. military going after drug traffickers late last week and said it's a goal President Donald Trump has made clear.

"There are designated narco-terrorist groups operating in the region, some of them utilizing international airspace, international waters, to transit poison into the United States," Rubio said. "And those groups will be confronted.

https://www.10news.com/us-news/military/us-navy-destroyers-head-toward-venezuela-as-trump-seeks-to-combat-drug-cartels

The US tries this every year and it always fails just like half their cous because they always cut costs anyway and send a bunch of schios to take over entire governments by themselves.

The oldest of those ships is USS Iwo Jima, which has had about 24 years of service, being deployed in 2001. Don't know if that's old enough.

>>2440521
in any case they wont invade, worse they will do is blow up stuff from the sky and block maritime traffic (which is quite enough to wreck the country)

>>2440521
>Is Venezuela about to be fucking invaded?
Trump wants his peace prize but he can change his mind in the +3 years he has left. Venezuela certainly has the home field advantage of dense jungles to continue guerilla operations.

>>2440556
Isn't most of Venezuela a prairie?

>war

Looks like someone forgot Chudda perennial wisdom about happenings, repeat after me: nothing ever happens

Diosdado Cabello: Those who believe the happeninigs should get not only a medal, the medal of merit to being gulible but not only a medal but a medal, cord and sash, the sash should say Major Gullible.
And yesterday some sniper rifles were presented as being part of a fascist plot.

WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The United States has ordered an amphibious squadron to the southern Caribbean as part of President Donald Trump's effort to address threats from Latin American drug cartels, two sources briefed on the deployment said on Wednesday.
The sources, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that the USS San Antonio, USS Iowa Jima and USS Fort Lauderdale could arrive off the coast of Venezuela as early as Sunday. The ships are carrying 4,500 service members, including 2,200 Marines, the sources said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-orders-amphibious-squadron-deploy-southern-caribbean-sources-2025-08-20/

>>2440525
I think this one might actually happen though. If it does it will cause millions of death. Because the military and population is actually loyal to Maduro (we saw it with the Gaido coup), this won't go easely like operation just cause.

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>>2440525
>>2440562
This. I am all in on nothing. More sanctions and shit. Maybe some silly assaasination drone hijinks or US funded protesters/saboteurs. Basically nothing more than the kind of shit they did in his first term.

AIGHT Z GANG WHERE DO WE STAND IN THIS INTERIMPERIALIST CONFLICT???

USA
>ruled by based Trump instead of cringe neoliberals now
>MAGA is pro-Russia and anti-Dengist
>US military is being re-geared to fight Chinese imperialism in Central Asia and Africa instead of Russian liberation forces
>shares cultural concerns about the degradation of classical Western virtues and religion with the Russian Federation

Venezuela
>is a Russian ally
>has Russian planes
>supplies oil to enemies of the West without question

Im leaning towards America because they will soon help Russian in Donbass but i am curious for your thoughts

>>2441049
Fuck off, either you work for the burger state dept. and/or 100% of your opinions come from them.

>>2441049
For all of ziggers flaws i don't see them dickride the US now that Trump is president like i thought they would.
Some of them did a 180° into based racist atlanticist though, but they're not zigger anymore by definition.

>>2441059
They were 100% intending to when Zelensky got mogged in the White House, Russian Telegram was going crazy like another Sino-Soviet split was imminent, Israel has got to be a red line though. I would be surprised if there's any hardcore ziggas left who are 100% behind MAGA. Maybe there are the European ziggas who are Marxist-Leninist but their main thing is actually deporting brown people from Europe, but they aren't found in /leftypol/ much.

>>2441049
How is it interimperialist?.


>>2441064
>European ziggas
do these even exist?

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Whats a zigga?

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>>2441140
Pull up.


>>2441138
no mention of russia on his wiki, sad

>>2441049
Seems like zizters don't wanna give you an answer to this

Venezuela is a danger to the United States, they're using drugs of mass destruction on american soil, and Maduro is proffiting of it.

>>2440521
NEH but it should happen for the accelerationism

>>2441604
I hope that the corrupt Guyanese government gets overthrown when the Esequibo gets annexed before it becomes a tourist Hotspot for wealthy expats as the people continue to be impoverished while the puppet government gets wealthy and sells the country out. Forbes Burnham and Cheddi Jagan would be crying to see how far the country has fallen

Trump wants to cinch up Ukraine to pivot to Venezuela

>>2441604
I'm all NEHgang but now I'm against this instance of thing accelerating
The Don wants his Nobel and I bet he is more willing to a siege rather than ground, why? Because they are still waiting for the opposition to do the heckin Couperino that will bring back foreign capital without oblivious treaties that favour the exploited country, remember than an imperial troop is valued at 1000 natives

>>2441916
I'm still waiting for the Russian tupolevs to go there again

John Bolton already planned to invade Venezuela in 2019 when Iván Duque and Jair Bolsonaro were in power, now that most of Latin America is under left-wing governments I can’t see it happening.

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>Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro has pledged to mobilise more than four million militia fighters in response to new United States “threats” after Washington raised a reward for his arrest and launched new antidrug operations in the Caribbean.

<“This week, I will activate a special plan with more than 4.5 million militiamen to ensure coverage of the entire national territory – militias that are prepared, activated and armed,” Maduro said in a televised address on Monday.


>Maduro urged his political base to expand worker and peasant militias and promised to arm them with “rifles and missiles” to defend the country’s sovereignty.

>>2440544
>The oldest of those ships is USS Iwo Jima, which has had about 24 years of service, being deployed in 2001. Don't know if that's old enough.
Not that old for a warship. It carries Marines. It's also part of a group with a few other landing ships that also carry Marines and amphibious vehicles called AAVs (and hovercraft). But just a few thousand Marines between them.

>>2441038
>I think this one might actually happen though.
Well this is nowhere close to what they'd need to invade Venezuela so I think it's probably more intended to look threatening. That is euphemistically called "naval diplomacy."

>>2441042
>This. I am all in on nothing. More sanctions and shit. Maybe some silly assaasination drone hijinks or US funded protesters/saboteurs.
Yeah.

>>2441138
>Oui
I was reading about him awhile ago and him getting in trouble for saying the Jews are pervs (true) but it's like, c'mon bro you're French. And then in his early life he was a pick-up artist.

Or maybe the U.S. seizes a Venezuelan ship using the drug thing as a pretext.

But invading a country like that would take months of buildup. It would be obvious because the National Guard would be called up (it's necessary, just logistically) and people would see freight trains loaded down with hundreds and hundreds of tanks and other vehicles heading from the inland Army bases towards the seaports. And this would go on for awhile. Then there would be a campaign to bombard people with propaganda.

This is more like saying "we don't like you."

This is also why the U.S. ended up being correct when it accused Russia of preparing to invade Ukraine, because just the buildup was on a scale that you don't do even for large military exercises.

>>2443947
i mean, i wouldn't be if these raised-by-TV retards in the hwyte house unironically believe they can send in some marines to tom clancley it before anyone notices.

>>2444006
They literally tried that and it didn’t work

>>2443947
>>2444006
yeah even the bush admin didn't actually raise the needed amount of troops to invade iraq, they were told what it would take (which would probably require a return to the draft which wasn't considered possible even after 9/11) and said "nah we can do this lean and efficient like". I can see the Trump admin doing an even more farcical version of this reasoning where they think they can blow some stuff up and watch the Maduro government magically collapse, probably being sold that narrative by the Venezuelan opposition who are trying to rope them in telling them how easy it will be in the hope they will have to escalate or admit defeat once it's clear that it's going to take a real effort.

>>2443926
Actually he's Swiss not French.

>>2441123
insane clown posse retard couldn't help himself

>>2441140
>>2441143
Russians put Z on their tanks in the recent war so anyone who "supports" (cheerleads on the internet for, whether conditionally or unconditionally) Russia against NATO is called a "zigger" by both 4chuds who dickride azovites and naive leftists who think the war started because Putin was mean and invaded for no reason violating hecking the democratic rights of CIA-backed Ukrainian regime that had already been in a civil war and doing ethnic cleansing for 8 years as of 2022.

>>2441059
>Spurdo actually admits to being a retard
very nice

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>>2443926
>That is euphemistically called "naval diplomacy."
And it's actually called gunboat diplomacy by normal people (as in, those that don't play these games) as well as anyone even a little historically inclined (euphemism for educated).

did anyone actually fell for the "fight against drug cartels" with fucking boats ? what are the destroyers even supposed to do against them ?

>>2447167
internationalism won, communism won, ICP won, amadeo bordiga, won, onorato damen, won

>>2447226
They made up a “cartel” that just happens to be made up of the Venezuelan government and military. I’m not even joking

>>2447239
Juggle army! Whoop whoop!

>>2447303
Juggaloism is American AES and a truer expression of rural prole misery than Ford F-150 trucks that edgy Marxist-Leninists worship who claim that if you make fun of big trucks then white proles will run away and get sad because you criticized their indigenous culture

>>2447312
What Marxist-Leninist party takes a pro-Ford F150 line?

>>2447167
I am not saying it isnt. Im asking how is it interimperialist

>>2447170
War started because of le capitalism.

Which imperialist front is venezuela part of?

Why are you all talking about Russia and this shit. Russia has nothing to do with the bourgeois country of Venezuela. It is a simple case that you need to support Venezuela against brutal U$ imperialism.

>>2447374
Supporting Spaniard kkkolonizers? No thanks, I read Sakai

Neurotic thread, nothing ever happens

>>2447374
no you don't, you don't have to support shit you retard

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>>2447374
Russia has close relations with Venezuela and is their main arms supplier. Any war between them and the US would inevitably become another US-Russian proxy war, like Ukraine in reverse.

>>2454464
Except Russia has no arms to spare thanks to the war in Ukraine so Venezuela is fucked of things jump off any time soon.

>>2454482
Russian war production has increased since the start of the war and there doesn't seem to be any indications of shortages or rationing. The real problems would probably be the logistics of getting them there, how Venezuela would pay for them, or nato interdicting the shipments.

>>2454482
>Russia has no arms to spare thanks to the war in Ukraine
<Russia will run out of weapons any second now hoholsisters!

>>2447226
It doesn't matter that nobody believes it. Legally, it grants the power to do the deeds necessary to escalate if so desired. And PR wise, this is no different from masking prejudice and legitimizing right wing thuggery behind law and order. The base wants it, and plays along with the pretexts to get it. And its bipartisan.

And fuck me, I'm an euro and my "left wing" part of the MSM, blatantly a PR part of the main socdem party, has been doing propaganda to sell every US narrative about the cold war (including Zionism) with a meager "but Trump" at the end. Now they are all poker facing about the US and focusing on how "the tyrant" Maduro fears the end of Venezuelas (his) drug cartel operations.

We are hosting and recognizing the next Guaido afterall:
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20240913IPR23907/venezuela-meps-recognise-edmundo-gonzalez-as-president

>>2454487
>>2454488
Russia has enough arms (barely) for the war in Ukraine but they don't have anything to spare to another country. They are using everything they produce in Ukraine now and any increases are earmarked for the war.

If you think Russia is going to come save Venezuela you're delusional. Not only are the Russians massive cucks who would do nothing that could even theoretically make America mad but they simply don't have enough spare weapons to change anything. Especially in crucial areas like air defense.

>>2454528
>Russia has enough arms (barely) for the war in Ukraine but they don't have anything to spare to another country.

I don't believe you're correct about that. If anything with the increases in production and the ongoing attrition of the UAF there should be an accumulation of weapons happening. I think it would also depend on what weapon systems Venezuela actually has already, like what sort of artillery for example, that Russia could theoretically supply. If you have any kind of hard data you can share that indicates otherwise I'd be happy to see it though.

The political situation is another matter. Personally I don't think they'd take the US savaging yet another country lying down, especially not a prospective BRICS member. Even if the will is there to do something though I don't see them actually being able to take any direct actions to intervene outside of diplomatic or economic support.


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>>2454528
Russia has massive stockpiles of anti-ship and anti-tank missiles that aren’t being employed in Ukraine.

When it's Trump gonna declare war today?

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THEY'VE STRUCKED A VESSEL

>>2458515
What if trump is secretly actually helping maduro?

>>2458515
what does this actually mean? they blew up a Venezuelan navy ship or something?

>>2458534
They sank a civilian boat

>Secretary of State Marco Rubio dismissed a UN report claiming that most drug-trafficking in South America takes place in Colombia and Ecuador, rather than Venezuela, as a reason not to go after the country's authoritarian president, Nicolas Maduro.

"I don't care what the UN says. He's a fugitive from U.S. justice indicted by a New York grand jury. He's not the legitimate leader of Venezuela," Rubio added.

The Secretary of State said on Wednesday in Mexico that the order to "blow up" the vessel rather than interdict it came from President Donald Trump.

"And it will happen again," Rubio added. Before heading to the neighboring country, Rubio had already anticipated that the Trump administration will l "go on the offense" against cartels.

While he said that the U.S. was prepared to support Ecuador in its fight against drug traffickers, he added that the relationship between the two countries would not be about security only. The secretary of state said the U.S. is looking to expand its already “vibrant economic relationship” with the South American nation.

Rubio also referenced “cooperative governments,” which he said would help the U.S. identify and locate drug traffickers.

“They’re going to help us identify them – they’re going to help us find these people and blow them up, if that’s what it takes. They’re going to help us with it,” Rubio said.

Trump is "going to use the full power of America and the full might of the us to take on and eradicate these drug cartels no matter where they're operating from and no matter how long they've been able to act with impunity," Rubio said.

Earlier on Wednesday Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth explicitly warned the country's authoritarian President, Nicolas Maduro, saying he "should be worried" after the development.

"The only one who should be worried is Nicolas Maduro, who is acting as the kingpin of a narco state. Not actually elected and indicted for $50 million by the U.S. We know he's involved in the kind of drug-running that has affected the American people directly," Hegseth said.

https://www.latintimes.com/marco-rubio-rejects-un-report-about-drug-production-venezuela-i-dont-care-what-un-says-589192

https://www.wzdm.com/2025/09/04/rubio-says-trump-wants-to-wage-war-on-venezuelan-drug-traffickers-blow-them-up-if-thats-what-it-takes/

Update

who gives le fuck

This is from August 29th 1 week ago about Maduro and plans from administration from sources on what they will do. It's interesting

>What they're saying: "This is 105% about narco-terrorism, but if Maduro winds up no longer in power, no one will be crying," said one Trump administration official familiar with the policy discussions.


Another administration official had a different view. "This could be Noriega part 2," the official said, referring to the U.S. military's 1989 operation to capture Panamanian President Manuel Noriega, who — like Maduro — faced U.S. drug-trafficking charges.

"The president has asked for a menu of options. And ultimately, this is the president's decision about what to do next, but Maduro should be s***ting bricks," the official said.

A third Trump adviser put it this way: "Leaving Maduro in power in Venezuela is like making Jeffrey Epstein the head of a daycare."

State of play: While administration officials have refused to rule out an invasion, nearly all privately believe it unlikely.

What's next: The prevailing administration hope is that Maduro negotiates an exit or is assassinated by members of the military anxious to collect the bounty or normalize ties with the U.S.

While an actual invasion force is hard for many to envision, officials see aggressive interdictions of suspected drug-running boats off Venezuela as all but certain. Said one official: "Some boats will definitely be caught or sunk."

Airstrikes are also a possibility. Sources speculated that targets could include sparsely populated jungle areas where cocaine production or cartel activity is suspected, or a new Russian-built ammunition plant.

Some in Trump's orbit even think Maduro could be targeted in a drone strike, given he is officially a terror suspect. Officials who spoke to Axios downplayed that possibility.

Officials acknowledge some of their beliefs about whether Maduro might flee or who would succeed him are highly speculative. After all, Trump tried for regime change in Caracas in his first term, and failed.
One U.S. official said the assumption is there's little real loyalty to Maduro inside the regime, except where he can buy it. "Where he goes, I don't think we much care. There are others in Venezuela that are equipped to run a country as well or better than he did. We're not picking any favorites."
"He might be stuck because the Cubans around him won't let him leave," said another Trump adviser. "So he might just leave in a body bag."

https://www.axios.com/2025/08/29/venezuela-ships-trump-maduro-regime-change

Another update on this

>>2461330
>A third Trump adviser put it this way: "Leaving Maduro in power in Venezuela is like making Jeffrey Epstein the head of a daycare."
LMAO. What does that make having Trump as president?

>>2461330
>One U.S. official said the assumption is there's little real loyalty to Maduro inside the regime, except where he can buy it.
Hasn't this been disproven on numerous occasions when they tried to coup him and all the important players in the Venezuelan government (military, intelligence, etc) stayed loyal?

>>2461470
I think there's a lot of people upset with Maduro and his government for a variety of reasons, but I also don't think there's any illusions about what's going to happen if they get Guaido'd.

>>2444135
The Swiss are what antisemites claim jews to be like.

>>2461470
it's pretty much the "rotten doors" narrative.

>>2461330
>This could be Noriega part 2
welp looks like burger SVO is on the horizon, this is even dumber than the Russians thinking taking over Crimea in 2014 is the same as taking over all of Ukraine

>>2444018
> probably being sold that narrative by the Venezuelan opposition who are trying to rope them in telling them how easy it will be in the hope they will have to escalate or admit defeat once it's clear that it's going to take a real effort.
I think every chancer reactionary on the planet watched israel stovepipe fake intelligence into the white house and decided to give it a go, this lot make it very easy.

Trump plays down possible regime change in Venezuela; US deploys stealth fighter jets
The United States is not talking about regime change in Venezuela, President Donald Trump said on Friday, as the United States ordered an additional 10 stealth fighter jets to a military buildup in the Caribbean.
"We're not talking about that, but we are talking about the fact that you had an election which was a very strange election, to put it mildly," Trump said, referring to the contested 2024 election the Venezuelan government says President Nicolas Maduro won.
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Trump had been asked by reporters about a claim Maduro has made this week that the United States was seeking "regime change through military threat."
"The government of the United States should abandon its plan of violent regime change in Venezuela and in all of Latin America and respect sovereignty, the right to peace, to independence," Maduro said on state television.
"I respect Trump. None of the differences we've had can lead to a military conflict," Maduro added. "Venezuela has always been willing to converse, to dialogue."
Trump demonstrated his new approach to fighting the drug war with a U.S. military strike on Tuesday that killed 11 people and sank a boat from Venezuela which Trump said was transporting illegal narcotics.
The U.S. president is weighing options for further strikes, including potentially attacking suspected drug cartel targets inside Venezuela, CNN reported on Friday, citing multiple sources briefed on the administration's plans. Such a strike would mark a major escalation.
The White House, Pentagon and State Department did not immediately respond to Reuters requests for comment on the report.
>'THEY'LL BE SHOT DOWN'
The Trump administration has ordered the deployment of 10 F-35 fighter jets to a Puerto Rico airfield to conduct operations against drug cartels, sources told Reuters on Friday.
The new deployment comes on top of an already bristling U.S. military presence in the southern Caribbean as Trump carries out a campaign pledge to crack down on groups funneling drugs into the United States.
The disclosure about the F-35s came just hours after the Pentagon accused Venezuela of a "highly provocative" flight on Thursday by fighter jets near a U.S. Navy warship.

Trump warned Venezuela that the U.S. military had authorization to shoot down the jets if commanders believed they needed to, saying: "If they do put us in a dangerous position, they'll be shot down."
At every turn, the Trump administration has sought to tie Maduro's government to narco trafficking, allegations Caracas denies.
Specifically, Trump has accused Maduro of running the Tren de Aragua gang, which his administration designated a terrorist organization in February. Maduro has denied any connection to Tren de Aragua, which his government says was rendered inactive in Venezuela by a prison raid in 2023.
Trump on Friday compared the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans in overdoses to war dead, as he sought to justify the muscular military activity in the Caribbean.
"Think if you're in a war and you lose 300,000 … We're not going to allow it to happen," he said.
Venezuela's Communications Ministry did not respond to a request for comment about the F-35s or the allegations that Venezuelan fighter jets flew over a U.S. warship.

<DEMOCRAT CONDEMNS 'LAWLESS' ACTS

The sources, speaking on condition of anonymity about the latest U.S. deployment, said the 10 fighter jets are being sent to conduct operations against designated narco-terrorist organizations operating in the southern Caribbean. The planes should arrive in the area by late next week, they said.
F-35s are highly advanced stealth fighters and would be effective in combat against Venezuela's air force, which includes F-16 aircraft.
A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said two Venezuelan F-16s flew over the guided missile destroyer Jason Dunham on Thursday. The Dunham is one of at least seven U.S. warships deployed to the Caribbean, carrying more than 4,500 sailors and Marines.
U.S. Marines and sailors from the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit have also been carrying out amphibious training and flight operations in southern Puerto Rico.
The buildup has put pressure on Maduro, whom U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has called "effectively a kingpin of a drug narco state."
U.S. Representative Ilhan Omar, a Democrat from Minnesota, condemned what she called Trump's "lawless" actions in the southern Caribbean.
"Congress has not declared war on Venezuela, or Tren de Aragua, and the mere designation of a group as a terrorist organization does not give any President carte blanche to ignore Congress's clear Constitutional authority on matters of war and peace," Omar said in a statement.
U.S. officials have not clearly explained what legal justification was used for Tuesday's air strike on the boat or what drugs were on board.
Trump said on Tuesday, without providing evidence, that the U.S. military had identified the crew of the vessel as Tren de Aragua members.

>>2461470
Maduro has his more progressive critics, to be sure, but even then as has been proven, they'll take flawed social democracy over out right trumpist neo-liberal capitalism any day of any week.

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Maduro: Venezuela will enter armed struggle if attacked
Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro warned that his country would "enter a phase of armed struggle" if it were subjected to any attack, while stressing that it "has always been ready for dialogue, but demands respect."

Maduro added, in a message broadcast on Venezuelan radio and television stations, that "none of the disagreements between Venezuela and the United States can lead to a military conflict," urging Washington to abandon its plan to change the regime in Caracas.

Addressing his US counterpart, Donald Trump, the Venezuelan president added, "The attempt by some Trump officials to change the regime in Venezuela is a mistake."

Maduro also denied Trump's accusations that he "leads a drug cartel," asserting that Venezuela is "a country free of cocaine production," describing the American claim as "a blatant and deceptive lie, like the lie that Iraq possesses weapons of mass destruction."

"The intelligence reports they are providing to Trump are incorrect," he said. "Venezuela today is a country free of coca leaf and cocaine production, and it is a country fighting drug trafficking."

<Trump threatens to shoot down Venezuelan aircraft

The Venezuelan president's remarks came hours after his US counterpart threatened to shoot down Venezuelan military aircraft "if they pose a threat to US forces," he said.

It also came after CNN , citing informed sources, reported that Trump was "studying a range of options against drug gangs operating in Venezuela."

While Trump claims to be fighting drug trafficking in Venezuela, as a justification for the US military buildup in the Caribbean and Latin America, the latest manifestation of which was the dispatch of 10 F-35 fighter jets to Puerto Rico, sources said his options include "strikes on targets inside Venezuela, as part of a broader strategy aimed at weakening Maduro."

Meanwhile, CBS News quoted Pentagon officials as saying that Venezuelan aircraft flew over the USS Jason Dunham for the second time.

Maduro announced the activation of the "Bolivarian Militia for the Defense of Venezuela" for the first time, calling up more than 8 million people to ensure the country's stability and freedom

any further developments today, anons?

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>>2464272
anon i asked if anything is happened, not about gay little slap fights by literally who' on twitter.com. Please retrain yourself to your containment thread, /ISG/ addict.

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Maduro announces a "special offensive" to strengthen internal security in Venezuela
The president referred to this plan as a "new stage" of work in which "two strengths" will come together, those of the communal circuits (units of popular organization) and the "police-military power", represented by the so-called "peace quadrants".

The president of Venezuela, Nicolás Maduro, announced on Tuesday the start of a "special offensive" to strengthen security throughout the country, a plan that, he said, seeks to integrate civilian, military, and police forces, reports EFE.

"Today marks the start of a special offensive to launch this line that will strengthen internal security in all 24 states of the country, especially in the capital Caracas," Maduro stated in an event broadcast by the state channel Venezolana de Televisión (VTV), without delving into details about the deployment.

For the president, strengthening security involves "the concrete popular-military fusion on the ground".

"With permanent action plans, focusing on life, community, but specifically on issues of tranquility, peace, and the fight against crime in all its forms," he added.

During his speech, Maduro referred to this plan as a "new stage" of work in which "two strengths" will come together, those of the communal circuits (units of popular organization) and the "police-military power", represented by the so-called "peace quadrants".

In 2018, Maduro announced the creation of the "Great Mission Peace Quadrants", with the aim of ensuring citizen security in the country.

The 'peace quadrants', according to official reports, are organizations made up of police forces and community leaders to design work methodologies against crime in areas spanning two to five kilometers.

Last Thursday, the U.S. Attorney General, Pam Bondi, shared a video on social media announcing a $50 million reward for information leading to the capture of Maduro, whom she identified as a threat to U.S. security.

Bondi accused the Venezuelan leader of using "foreign terrorist organizations such as Sinaloa and the Cartel of the Suns to introduce lethal drugs and violence" into the U.S., an assertion that has been rejected by numerous institutions, as well as Venezuelan police and military bodies.

On Tuesday, the Venezuelan Foreign Minister, Yván Gil, warned of what he considered a "serious military threat" from the U.S., a country that, he said, "shelters under the alleged right" to combat drug trafficking to "turn" Latin America into a "new scenario of colonial war".

Through a post on Telegram, in which he informed about a meeting with the accredited diplomatic corps in Venezuela, Gil made an "urgent call" to the international community to "repudiate these terrorist acts" instigated - he pointed out - by the U.S. government and "its fascist allies from the Venezuelan right".

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Venezuela rejects supremacism
On Monday, Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro held a press conference with representatives of international media in which he analyzed the current geopolitical situation in the Caribbean.

During this meeting with journalists, the Bolivarian leader addressed the international situation from multiple angles, the main ones of which are presented below.

“There are still those who want to impose supremacism and view us from afar as we did in the era of colonization,” Maduro said, questioning the patterns of international domination.

“The heirs of the old colonialisms and supremacisms hold power and still view our nations with contempt and arrogance,” he emphasized, highlighting that global awareness against all forms of supremacism is awakening.

“A global awareness is rising that will not allow, under any circumstances, the imposition of a new type of supremacism or colonialism, either in Our America or in the rest of the world.”

Commander Chavez’s legacy has allowed the Bolivarian nation to defeat the blockade

President Maduro maintained that although Commander Hugo Chavez died 12 years ago, his ideas and work live on in the revolutionary socialism that Venezuela champions.

“We fought against the sanctions and the blockade and defeated them… Today, Venezuela’s economic system is robust. We also fought and defeated the political blockade.”

The attack on the Venezuelan presidential image seeks to destabilize the country

The Bolivarian leader emphasized that “empires need to demonize a leader to demonize a project… The attack is not against Maduro but against a people and a sacred history. Gentlemen imperialists: You have not been able, nor will you be able, now or ever, to defeat that history.”

The Bolivarian leader reaffirmed Venezuela’s position as a bastion of anti-colonialism and resistance, emphasizing that his nation stands as an example of a new global consciousness that rejects hegemonic power dynamics.

“Its words resonate in a geopolitical context marked by multipolarity, where the global south seeks to consolidate its sovereignty in the face of external interference,” he said.

Maduro described Venezuela’s historical trajectory as a path of struggle, resistance, and revolution that extends into the 21st century through humanistic socialism. “This development model is distinguished by its inclusive nature and its commitment to the majority,” President Maduro explained.

Solidarity SVG Calls to Condemn the US Threats On Venezuela’s Sovereignty: Saint Vincent and the Grenadines Solidarity with Venezuela Committee issued a statement calling for action in the face of the recent violation of Venezuelan maritime space by a US flotilla -which includes a nuclear submarine and more than 4,000 troops- constitutes an illegitimate aggression under the pretext of combating drug trafficking.

“Saint Vincent & The Grenadines and CARICOM nations cannot but be very concerned about the violations of Venezuela’s sovereign maritime space by a flotilla of US warships and a nuclear-powered submarine, in the name of fighting drugs,” the statement reads.

Also the SVG Solidarity with Venezuela Committee recalls that United Nations agencies have repeatedly reported that Venezuela is not complicit in the illegal drugs trade and that “Caracas has always cooperated fully with international agencies in combatting the drug trade.”

The US military operation is described as a dangerous action that could lead to a war with serious consequences for Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, the Caribbean, Latin America and the whole world.

Solidarity SVG highlights the current international context, marked by war in Ukraine, genocide in Gaza and Palestine, and other conflicts, which require efforts to maintain peace and not to encourage military interventions and threats in the region.

The solidarity committee also recalls with gratitude Venezuela’s solidarity with the Caribbean countries, especially through initiatives such as PetroCaribe and the Free Trade Area for Latin America and the Caribbean project, which have directly benefited nations like yours.

More than 300 Venezuelans return home from the US

A total of 319 Venezuelans—281 men, 31 women, 6 boys, and 1 girl—arrived this Friday at Simón Bolívar International Airport in Maiquetía, La Guaira, from Texas, United States, on flight 63 of the (Gran Misión Vuelta a la Patria) Great ”Return to the Homeland” Mission.

The returnees were received by Venezuelan authorities, including officials from the Scientific, Criminal, and Criminal Investigation Corps (CICPC), the Bolivarian National Intelligence Service (SEBIN), the Bolivarian National Guard (GNB), and the Bolivarian National Police Corps.

The Return to the Homeland Plan offers legal assistance, educational, cultural, and sports reintegration, and socioeconomic protection, consolidating itself as a humanitarian initiative for the safe return of Venezuelans.

Russia Backs Venezuela and Condemns U.S. Warship Deployment in the Caribbean

Russia expressed its full support for the Venezuelan government and people amid the deployment of U.S. warships in the Caribbean.

“Practices of military intervention must remain in the past,” Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said after the U.S. deployed warships off the Venezuelan coast.

The Russian diplomat confirmed that her country “categorically rejects the threat of the use of force against sovereign states as an instrument of foreign policy.”

Venezuela has “the inalienable right to freely determine its political, economic and social path without external pressures,” she said, warning the international community about the risks implied by the U.S. militarization of the Caribbean.

On Thursday, Venezuelan Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino Lopez announced that the Bolivarian National Armed Forces (FANB) have neutralized a total of 402 aircraft linked to drug trafficking in operations carried out across the country.

The most recent operation took place in Maroa municipality in Amazonas state, where Venezuelan troops captured an aircraft, disabled a logistics camp and seized strategic materials from criminal groups.

“Nothing stops us! Venezuela has not been and will not be a route for illicit drug trafficking!” Padrino Lopez said on social media.

The defense minister reaffirmed the Venezuelan government’s ongoing commitment to combating transnational organized crime, particularly in border and strategic areas.

These results contrast with international narratives that portray Venezuela as a narco state, he said, arguing that concrete actions and verifiable figures demonstrate the effectiveness of national security operations.

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Pretty interesting article from Tom Sharp in the Torygraph:
I’ve gone up against drug smugglers in the Caribbean. Here’s my take on Trump’s new Venezuela war
The situation with Venezuela has been brewing for some time but with boats allegedly carrying drugs now subject to trial-by-missile and Maduro’s jets buzzing US destroyers, it shows all the signs of escalating further. Or as far as a mismatch of this magnitude is able to, at least.

Perhaps the start of this latest crescendo was in February this year when the US president terminated Venezuela’s Temporary Protected Status and ramped up sanctions. President Maduro, not unsurprisingly, immediately reached out to Russia for support.

Then in August, Trump signed a directive authorising the use of force against Latin American cartels and framing Venezuela as a narco-state hub for fentanyl. There has also been a pretty remarkable deployment of US naval force into the area, starting with three Arleigh Burke-class destroyers. This increase led to questions about whether or not this was a precursor to a “blockade” of some sort. The destroyers were followed by a Wasp-class big deck amphibious assault ship and two amphibious transport docks – what the US calls an “amphibious ready group”. These ships are the mobile base for the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit – 2,500 US Marines with all their amazing toys: tiltrotors, stealth jumpjets, hovercraft, swimming armour and the rest. Then to top things off a Ticonderoga-class missile cruiser and a nuclear powered attack submarine arrived on the scene. By this point people were not talking “blockade” but “invasion”.

Trump’s Venezuela task group counts 140,200 tons of ships. That’s more than Britain’s one and only Carrier Strike Group, which is in the Indo-Pacific just now. In fact, the USN has deployed about half of the Royal Navy’s cumulative warship and attack submarine tonnage – just for Venezuela.

We’ve now seen an event that may have ratcheted the tension to new levels. A small vessel, allegedly operated by Venezuelan drug cartel “Tren de Aragua” with 11 suspected gang members onboard, was destroyed by an air-to-surface missile – most likely from an MQ-9 “Reaper” drone.

The debate on the legality of this was not long coming, with various lawyers predominantly saying, “I think we just witnessed a war crime” and the vice-president of the USA – a graduate of Yale Law School – saying, “I don’t give a s–t”. Trump and his people believe that having designated Tren de Aragua as terrorists, they can be killed on the president’s orders: as Osama bin Laden was on the orders of then president Obama, or as General Qasem Soleimani of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps was during Trump’s first term.

I have a couple of thoughts on the engagement, having operated against drug smugglers in those parts back in the day. First, I don’t think that boat had the legs to make it to the mainland US. More likely it was bound for an island in the Caribbean or planning a transfer to another boat. This muddies the waters.

Second, I’ve never seen a drug smuggling boat like this with 11 people onboard. Six is the most I’ve ever seen, and that was a larger boat – and two of those were… umm… on our side. Speed is everything in that game. This boat was overweight and, in the clip where they were engaged at least, only doing about 20 knots. This is unusual. The boats we chased were so fast – 60 plus knots – we had to send our helicopter to chase them down. The helicopter would carry a Royal Marine sniper who would shoot out their engines with a heavy rifle so that we could catch them in the ship.

Third, on the two occasions I did counter-drug operations in the Caribbean, US intelligence was not always right as to who was a smuggler and who wasn’t. In fact, we preferred working with the Dutch out of Curaçao who were faster and more accurate. I’m not saying US intelligence in this case was wrong, just saying that they don’t have a God’s eye picture at all times.

Finally, we also considered this kind of interdiction a law enforcement activity, not counter-terrorism or combat. We would have a US Coast Guard Law Enforcement Detachment (LEDET) embarked to carry out the actual arrests (we didn’t use British people as doing this part of the job could mean a lot of time spent in court in the US). The chase and the sniping were clearly military activities but then the LEDET would board the boat and cuff the smugglers. The idea of setting out to kill the bad guys was never even discussed and is a change that has surprised most of us familiar with how these operations are conducted. Those in favour of this change in attitude may say “this is what we voted for”. In terms of deterrence it’s hard to argue with, no matter how many difficulties you have with the legality – or how many times you ask “Where does this shift in policy end up?”

Both sides have their aims. The US wants to choke some of the drug pipelines fuelling its horrifying opioid problem which is killing more than 100,000 Americans every year. Trump projects toughness, eyeing domestic gains by labelling Venezuela a narco-threat.

Maduro for his part just wants regime survival. Venezuela is in rickety condition. Oddly, its oil – arguably its main legitimate business – can only be sold easily to America, which has refineries set up to deal with its “sour” sulphurous crude. But a lot of money can be made selling other things to America, and Trump’s allegations that Venezuela is now a “narco-state” are perfectly credible.

“What’s next” is less clear, to me at least. There is certainly room to escalate further. Venezuela could increase grey-zone activities such as harassment of tankers, undersea sabotage, use of drones, GPS jamming etc. They have a stock of mines and even suggesting these are in use can impact shipping and insurance rates.

One thing is for sure, the Venezuelans should stop buzzing the US destroyers in their F-16 fighter jets. This is a bad idea. It achieves very little and it would be the easiest thing in the world for the US Navy to destroy one in self-defence, particularly now that they have new and permissive rules of engagement. It’s an incredibly foolish move to fly a plane anywhere in line of sight of an Arleigh Burke that might be willing to take a shot at you. One of the things I have quite admired about the US Navy over the years – just from a purely military perspective, as a missile man myself – is that they generally don’t need much encouragement in this regard.

But as an older and wiser head these days, I’d say there’s already quite enough trouble in the world today. It’s to be hoped that Trump and Maduro can resolve their differences – or at any rate, rub along somehow – without getting any more people killed.

This is looking less and less good by the day, anons. You should probably start paying attention.
Top U.S. Military Leaders Visit Puerto Rico As Caribbean Operations Aimed At Venezuela Heat Up
he Pentagon’s two top leaders traveled to Puerto Rico amid growing tensions with Venezuela and its leader, Nicolas Maduro. The U.S. territory is serving as a staging ground for the arrival of equipment and personnel as the Trump administration continues bringing assets to the fight against drug cartels. The Trump administration considers Maduro a narco-terrorist and cartel leader.

During his visit, Hegseth flew a U.S. Marine Corps MV-22 Osprey to the USS Iwo Jima, the lead ship in the Iwo Jima Amphibious Readiness Group (ARG). The ship is part of the counter-narcotics effort and currently stationed about 30 miles south of Puerto Rico.
The visit was embraced by Puerto Rico’s governor.

“Honored to welcome Secretary of War Pete Hegseth…along with General Dan Caine, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff…to Puerto Rico,” Jennifer González-Colón said on X Monday morning. President Donald Trump last week signed an executive order changing the name of the Department of Defense to the Department of War.

“We thank POTUS Trump and his Administration for recognizing the strategic value Puerto Rico has to the national security of the United States and the fight against drug cartels in our hemisphere, perpetuated by narco-dictator Nicolas Maduro. We are proud to support America First policies that secure our borders and combat illicit activities to protect Americans and our homeland.”


Hegseth and Caine met with González-Colón at the Muñiz Air National Guard Base in Isla Verde, according to the Puerto Rican El Nuevo Dia media outlet.

The War Secretary “delivered a message to nearly 300 soldiers there, according to the governor, who was accompanied by the adjutant general of the National Guard. Colonel Carlos José Rivera Román, and the Secretary of Public Security, Arturo Garffer,” the publication reported.

The visit to Puerto Rico comes as some 4,500 sailors and Marines from the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) continue to conduct amphibious landing training exercises that began Aug. 31.

“Although the Pentagon initially reported that these were routine exercises, the increased military presence in Puerto Rico—which has sparked protests—was gradually linked to the Trump administration’s show of force in waters near Venezuela,” El Nuevo Dia posited.


The Pentagon has declined to comment about the trip to Puerto Rico by Hegseth and Caine, but it comes a day after U.S. President Donald Trump offered an ominous response to a question about whether American forces will strike drug cartel targets inside Venezuela.

“Well, you’re going to find out,” Trump answered. He offered no further explanation about what he meant.


The U.S. has already carried out one kinetic strike, against a suspected drug boat operated by the Tren de Aragua (TDA) cartel. TDA has been deemed a narco-terror organization by Trump. The attack destroyed the vessel, killing 11 people on it, Trump announced last week. The incident has raised questions about killing suspects without a trial and the use of force without Congressional approval.

Trump and Hegseth have both said that deadly strikes against cartels will continue.

Images emerged on social media of at least two MQ-9 Reaper drones in Puerto Rico. They appear to be there as part of the counter-narcotics mission. These aircraft can carry a variety of missiles as well as sensors for surveillance and can loiter for more than 24 hours over a target, making them an ideal platform for these missions. Reuters took a photo of one of the Reapers carrying sensor pods and armed with AGM-114 Hellfire missiles.

The New York Times reported that a Reaper could have been involved in the boat attack.

We have reached out to the Air Force, Pentagon and White House for further clarification, as well as details about how often, if at all, Reapers have been so deployed to fight drug trafficking in the Caribbean. We also asked for comment on whether at least one Reaper took part in the attack on the drug boat, which is a likely scenario. The Air Force deferred us to the Pentagon. We will update this story with any pertinent details provided.

Of note is that the U.S. in the past months has operated MQ-9 variants over Mexico in the fight against cartels there. There have also been unarmed variants operated by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) seen in Puerto Rico.

In response to the boat attack, Venezuelan Air Force F-16 Vipers conducted a flight near the Arleigh Burke class guided missile destroyer USS Jason Dunham, a U.S. official confirmed to us. CBS News reported a second encounter, but The War Zone cannot independently verify that.

Meanwhile, Trump on Friday said that U.S. Navy ships can shoot down Venezuelan aircraft that “put us in a dangerous position.”


The Dunham is one of at least eight warships, including a Los Angeles class nuclear-powered submarine, that have been ordered to the Caribbean by Trump. A U.S. official told us on Monday that those ships have not moved since we wrote about this deployment last week.

As we recently pointed out, the American leader also ordered 10 F-35 Joint Strike Fighters to deploy to Puerto Rico, though it remains unclear where they will come from, when they arrive and what they will do once they get there. However, as we have previously pointed out, the F-35 offers a lot of capabilities. In addition to carrying out strikes, these fifth-generation aircraft also have a variety of sensors that make it an ideal intelligence-gathering platform. You can read more about that here.

In addition, open source flight trackers have pointed that numerous U.S. transport aircraft have been making trips to Puerto Rico. There have been no official indications that additional troops are on the way for this effort; however, the transports could be carrying manpower and materiel needed for a sustained campaign.


While ostensibly to counter drug trafficking, a source familiar with these operations told us that the deployments are also a message to Maduro.

The Venezuelan leader was indicted in a New York federal court in 2020, during the first Trump presidency. He and 14 others, including several close allies, were hit with federal charges of narco-terrorism and conspiracy with the Colombian FARC insurgent group to import cocaine. The U.S., as we previously mentioned, has issued a $50 million reward for his capture.

Speaking of, Maduro, on Sunday, he claimed he was moving 25,000 more troops to the border with Colombia in an effort to fight drug traffickers. Whether that is a real deployment or will have any effect on U.S. operations is unlikely.

As we have noted, the presence of high-end assets like 10 F-35s does not necessarily signal that the U.S. is planning to go to to war directly with Venezuela.

As more assets arrive in the region in the coming days, we will keep you informed on how the mission develops.

<Update: 5:13 PM Eastern –

The Pentagon released a video of Hegseth addressing troops aboard the Iwo Jima.

“Make no mistake about it, what you’re doing right now, it’s not training,” he proclaimed. “This is the real-world exercise on behalf of the vital national interests of the United States of America to end the poisoning of the American people.”

Seems like a bunch of empty posturing by a senile reality TV star pretending to be president. There's a reason why the United States has refrained from sending troops into a jungle since the Vietnam War. Why send your own troops into the meatgrinder when instead you could just covertly arm and fund some counter-revolutionary guerilla army and let them do all the dirty work for you?

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Is there a materialist explanation for this delusion?
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/515157910/

>Any forced recruit would shoot the government before shooting a marine.

>>2466690
He is Argentinian, probably a Mileist who came from the ships who supports video attached.
If he defends his class interest would be understandable, being in a neocolonial bourg is relative easier than a industrial one, but a facho pobre is a facho pobre

FUCK
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>>2464573
>Rand Paul
>Literally Who

>>2466626
>Trump’s allegations that Venezuela is now a “narco-state” are perfectly credible.
cut this pig's throat

Anyone got the impression that this is just a smoke screen to cover up the new developments in the Epstein files, and that Trump will chicken out again?

>>2467127
its likely imo. I can see another botched bay of pigs type incursion with special forces happening thoughever

>>2466626
holy shit such a colossal cunt
>In terms of deterrence it’s hard to argue with
not really. Drug running in latam is a plenty dangerous business, if risk of death was a dealbreaker nobody would be doing it, and what is the likelihood they will expend a missile on every random fucking boat

>The US wants to choke some of the drug pipelines fuelling its horrifying opioid problem

thats complely false and ertarded, the aim is clearly pure poltiical posturing spectacle and communication on one side, and pressur on venezuela on the other, it has nothing to do with drugs
also, the US opioid problem, entirely self inflicted, is as far as I know mostly coming from completely legal sources, nobody bother to smuggle fentanyl into the us

>Maduro for his part just wants regime survival

and venezuelan sovereignty, and the resources on its soil to serve its social programs rather than fill US petro companies pockets
but libs will never admit to this, as the mere concept of serving the people rather than businesses and international finance is anathema to them

>Trump’s allegations that Venezuela is now a “narco-state” are perfectly credible

what? no they're absolutely not you fuckface
really show how much they are two faced little bitches running pure imperial propaganda while cloaking it behind super mild criticism

>the Venezuelans should stop buzzing the US destroyers in their F-16 fighter jets. This is a bad idea

oh yeah, when we come threaten you in your own waters, you should be a submissive little bitch and not even attempt to monitor our hostile deployments.

>it would be the easiest thing in the world for the US Navy to destroy one in self-defence

>self defence
as yes the famous self defence of invading a sovereign nation space and then shooting at them
also dont be too confident cunt destroying a us navy boat with an anti ship missile isnt that hard either

>One of the things I have quite admired about the US Navy over the years – just from a purely military perspective, as a missile man myself – is that they generally don’t need much encouragement in this regard.

<yeesss I love shooting missiles without good reasons, BLOOD FOR THE EMPIRE

>’s to be hoped that Trump and Maduro can resolve their differences

<my country unilaterally attack and try to destroy a poor country for decades for having the audacity to not be our bitches
<I hope we can "resolve our differences"
these people should really get gulaged

Guys, I can't help but think this is all the fault of our resident CIA agent Jackson Hinkle.

>Goes to Russia

<Operation spiderweb happens
>Goes to Yemen
<Yemen leadership hit
>Meets Hamas leadership
<Gets hit by israel in Doha
>Goes to meet Maduro
<Trump wants to invade

Im noticing things.

>>2467234
We have compiled a shit ton of circumstantial evidence that Jackson is Tulsi's boy out doing missions. He and his buddy haz have been speaking seditious things and nothing happens to them. People of a lower rank than them within their party are denied entry to the US but these two always get a pass or a mild interrogation. Hinkle never got stopped ever and the border guards of ICE are good friends with him. He is much older than he is. The real Hinkle died in a surfing accident. This is a steroided 40 year old man playing Jack Ryan. Even that retard Hasan Piker knows Hinkle is a Fed.

>>2466690
especially funny since venezuela have massive popular militias, precisely to prevent any ground invasion by the us

>>2467241
Hasan is literally a democrat shilling fed lol. He has had AOC and Bernie on his show you can't get more controlled than that.

>>2467290
>Glowie
>t. Glownonymous
Yes we are jealous of hinkle. Such potential wasted on shilling for putin's mansions and imperial ambitions.

>le hinckley
Please keep it to /ISG/. Meanwhile, any updates?

>>2467436
>>>/ISG/
Nothing substantial to add news wise then? You lot seem beyond worthless, honestly.

>>2467438
Too be fair nobody knows what is happening. Notice how much of our current events knowledge is curated by others. We only know what they show us.

I hope the Venezuelans kill a shitton of gringos.

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>>2468353
https://www.telesurtv.net/venezuela-fanb-operacion-psicologica-ee-uu/
Another day, another
<Venezuelan armed forces denounce another US attempt to create a false positive to justify intervention
In short, another fabricated Tonkin, now a helicopter and the vz are cutting before loose that they are not touching said aircrafts.

The clock ticks but does not move, for the better I hope

https://www.telesurenglish.net/venezuela-overcomes-economic-war-and-reaches-90-food-self-sufficiency/

Venezuela Overcomes Economic War and Reaches 90% Food Self-Sufficiency

<“Previously, Venezuela was a net importer of 85% of its food. Today, we have overcome the economic war and are in a different situation. We are reinventing ourselves,” said President Nicolás Maduro.

2nd boot hit.

>>2474222
Can I just stop everyone for a second and point out the elegance of Maduro's solution?

>>2482302
growing food out of the soil, very elegant indeed, Maduro must be some kind of genius

>>2482302
Wtf is with this bot trying to spam this sentence everywhere?

>>2482296
They are obviously baiting them to fire at one of their ships.

while on the topic of venezuela, some socialist guys I read on latam (and especially venezuela) have shared a documentary about their communes, and their communes seem pretty based from what I've seen in the trailer

>>2482973
bro on the whiteboard was on some hegelian shit talking about essence vs. appearance

>>2482308
imperialists hate nothing more than peripheral countries attaining self-sufficiency

Another boat blown up

TLDR? Telesur are talking a lot about defending fishermen and fightan.
https://www.youtube.com/@telesurenglish/videos

Navy seals sure go trough a lot of training to murder random fishermen

>>2484150
>Navy seals sure go trough a lot of training to murder random fishermen
The only guy I knew of being in the US army, was on some big-ish ship or another. And his tenure, he said, consisted of being assigned menial (sometimes pointless) chores, doing about half of it and then finding places to hide and spend the rest of the time playing vidya on a handheld or on the phone and fapping.

I don't think it's the tacticool operators doing these things. Those they send into the DPRK to plant spy devices, with the full MGS getup only to get scared by fishermen , massacre them and then run away scared before starting. Apparently.

Trump Says US Forces Sank Third Suspected Drug Boat off Venezuela
https://www.thenation.com/article/society/judith-butler-letter-uc-berkeley/?

>>2484278
My guess is they're using a Navy helicopter called the Sea Hawk. It's the Navy version of the Black Hawk and they stick missile launchers on them.

This is a nothingburger, and the "regime change" goals are rather auxiliary or accidental, which are going to depend in the capacity of Venezuelan´s elite to maintain stability within the military. The drug question is, for the most part, an alibi as well. In my opinion, whatever the US is doing at the moment is, if you will, a show of force in a period of hegemonic collapse. They are showing us who´s really the lord this hemisphere: themselves. Venezuela is just the perfect candidate to show that: rogue-state, major hub of distribution for drug cartels, and "undemocratic" (if you think the 2024 election results were legitimate, you are a monkey).

Nothing is gonna happen and if it does the US will collapses

>>2484378
the US wouldn't collapse yet, that's still a fair few years away, they could obliterate venezuela, and get away with it scot free

>>2484405
nah if they invade venezuela they will get stuck in another decade-long conflict and probably set the definite conditions for collapse as the entire south american block melts down

and the reason why internal collapse would be inevitable if an invasion were to occur are obvious, right? like it's not only massively unpopular and would put the internal market which is already tethering on catastrophic collapse into even more tension, and they lose like half their regional allies instantly further stressing internal markets, and it's a costly war while they're still stuck in two other endless quagmires, it's imbecilic and i expect trump to flank out anyway because when the army yells at hegseth and trump,they piss their pants.

>>2485184
>Highly destabilized country with shitty economy and NATO-backed armed groups will NEVER collapse

Anyone remember Chavez (final boss) from Postal 3? That shit will never not be funny, because how extremely ironic it turn out to be.

>>2485205
it took decades to de-estabilize syria enough, retard

>>2483311
before i watch this… is this guy a lib? is his info decent?

you really think they will do venezuela and iran at the same time on top of ukraine

>>2485514
schizo declining empires tend to overreach

>>2485514
Logically no, but i'm not about to be surprised when they do. They've got a whole countries worth of an invasion fleet out there.

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Venezuelan troops to give weapons training in poor neighborhoods: Maduro
Caracas: Venezuelan troops will give weapons training to residents of low-income neighborhoods this weekend as part of President Nicolas Maduro's response to a US military build-up in the Caribbean, near his country.

Maduro, who accuses Washington of planning to invade Venezuela, said late Thursday that troops will go into communities "to teach all those men and women who enlisted (in a civilian militia) how to handle weapons systems."

Speaking on state television, the leftist strongman, whom the United States accuses of heading a drug cartel, said it would be the first time soldiers would take their weapons out of the barracks into communities for training purposes.

The biggest US naval deployment in the Caribbean in decades and US strikes on at least two Venezuelan boats allegedly transporting drugs across the Caribbean have stoked fears that the United States is planning attacks on Venezuelan territory.
On Wednesday, Venezuela launched three days of military exercises on its Caribbean island of La Orchila in response to the perceived threat.
La Orchila is close to the area where the United States intercepted and held a Venezuelan fishing vessel for eight hours over the weekend.US forces have also targeted suspected drug boats.

President Donald Trump says US forces have "knocked off" three boats in total but has only given details and video footage of two of the strikes, which left 14 dead.
Washington says its operations are part of its war on drug trafficking and dismisses questions over the legality of the strikes in international waters.


Venezuela Begins Large-Scale Military Drills in Response to US Deployment
Venezuela began large-scale military drills on the Caribbean island of La Orchila, mobilizing thousands of troops, warships, aircraft, and air-defense systems in a show of force it said was a response to United States naval deployment in the southern Caribbean.

Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino announced the start of the maneuvers, dubbed “Caribe Soberano 200,” on state television and said some 2,500 members of the Bolivarian National Armed Forces would take part in the drills. He said the operation would include 12 navy ships, 22 aircraft, about 20 small militia boats, surveillance drones, submarines, and ZU anti-aircraft artillery systems.

“The operation responds to the threatening and vulgar deployment of U.S. ships in the Caribbean,” Padrino said, according to the state broadcast. “We will respond if we are the target of any aggression.”

<Venezuela starts military drills in the Caribbean

Images released by Venezuela’s military showed Su-30MK2 fighter jets on the tarmac and in flight, with missiles mounted under their wings. The aviation ministry said the aircraft were equipped with Kh-31 “Krypton” anti-ship and anti-radar missiles of Russian origin.

The International Institute for Strategic Studies and the Russian analysis center CAST have reported that Venezuela acquired Kh-31 variants in 2007-08, though independent watchdogs have warned about equipment obsolescence and scant transparency in Venezuelan military reporting.

Admiral Ashraf Suleiman Gutierrez, speaking from one of the ships taking part in the exercise, said Venezuela did “not attack anyone” but was prepared to defend its territory. “We love peace. But we are prepared to defend that peace,” he said.

<Venezuela’s military exercises comes in response to US deployment

The maneuvers come as the United States says it has stepped up naval activity in the Caribbean to counter drug trafficking. Washington has deployed a task group of vessels to the region that U.S. officials say includes three Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, the cruiser Lake Erie, the amphibious assault ship USS Iwo Jima, and a nuclear-powered submarine. Caracas has characterized the U.S. presence as an intimidation tactic and called it a “siege.”

President Nicolas Maduro’s government has denounced U.S. operations near its coasts as hostile, as Washington reportedly destroyed three Venezuelan boats, killing over a dozen people. According to Trump, the boats were smuggling drug to the U.S. The Venezuelan defense ministry said the drills would rehearse air, sea, and land operations, including amphibious tank landings and long-range surveillance.

The state release said the exercises would draw on specialized militia units, including coastal fishermen organized into militia boat flotillas, and elite military units. The government also said it had deployed ships fitted with anti-air defenses for the operation. The build-up has drawn international attention amid high regional tensions. Richard Grenell, a U.S. special envoy, told a conference in Paraguay this week that diplomatic avenues remained available to avoid escalation. “It is still possible to reach a diplomatic agreement with Caracas and avoid war,” Grenell said.

<Venezuela’s military exercises will focus on amassing support for the regime

Venezuelan critics, and some independent observers, have warned that the government’s military displays can be aimed at shoring up domestic support amid economic and political strain. Non-government watchdog Control Ciudadano has said Venezuela’s official military inventories are unclear and questioned the readiness of some systems, including combat aircraft.

The Venezuelan announcement did not specify the duration of the exercises or details about areas to be used beyond La Orchila, a government-held island roughly 160 kilometers (about 100 miles) off the Venezuelan coast. State media said the drills would include coordination among naval, amphibious, air, special, and aerospace forces.

U.S. and Venezuelan officials did not immediately comment beyond the statements already issued by both capitals. The U.S. Southern Command has said its deployments are focused on counter-narcotics operations and regional security cooperation. The La Orchila maneuvers are the latest episode in a widening standoff between Caracas and Washington in recent months, raising concerns among neighbors and international mediators about a potential miscalculation at sea.

Defending against a full scale invasion is the only way Maduro can become a national hero, it’s in his political interests for the US to invade

>>2440521
Im tired of war at this point but defending yourself against USA invasion is more than justified.

bomp. Any updates?

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>>2488669
>bomp. Any updates?
Mr.President a third boat has hit the towers.

>>2488673
In what respect? The fleets are still there, Venezuela is still on a war-footing and doing maneuvers, at least.

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China backs Venezuela, warns US against ‘bullying’ after second deadly sea raid
Venezuela’s foreign minister said Wednesday that China pledged support for Caracas’ efforts to preserve peace in the Caribbean, quoting Ambassador Lan Hu as saying Beijing stood “in solidarity” as Washington pressed ahead with military strikes on boats it claimed were carrying drugs.

Foreign Minister Yvan Gil met with Lan in Caracas and described the message from Beijing as a significant gesture at a time when the United States had deployed warships and launched two deadly operations in less than a month.

Gil stressed that President Nicolas Maduro was committed to regional unity and to what he called an “authentic battle” against narcotics trafficking, but accused Washington of using military power for political ends.

The Chinese pledge came as Washington carried out a second strike near the Venezuelan coast, announced on Monday by US President Donald Trump. He stated that US forces had targeted a vessel in international waters carrying cocaine and fentanyl bound for the United States.

Three people on board were killed – and video footage, according to Trump, showed “big bags of cocaine and fentanyl” floating in the sea.

That strike followed an operation earlier this month that killed 11 people on a speedboat the US linked to Venezuelan cartels. Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth vowed the US would “track them, kill them, and dismantle their networks throughout our hemisphere”, adding that he did not rule out extending operations to land.

The administration argued the strikes were necessary to defend US security, pointing to gangs such as Tren de Aragua, which it has designated a terrorist organisation. Trump noted that fewer boats had been spotted since the first strike but warned that cartels continued to smuggle drugs by land.

“We’re telling the cartels right now we’re going to be stopping them, too,” he declared.

The operations quickly attracted criticism in Washington, where some lawmakers and rights advocates questioned their legality.

Democratic Senator Adam Schiff announced he was drafting a war powers resolution to block further military action without congressional approval, calling the strikes “lawless killings” that risked entangling the US in conflict with Venezuela.

Amnesty International warned that the attacks might amount to extrajudicial executions, while other rights groups faulted the administration for providing scant information about the legal grounds for the operations.

Maduro, for his part, accused Washington of deliberately seeking a military clash as a pretext for regime change. Earlier this week, he denounced what he called a US raid on a Venezuelan fishing vessel and suggested it was designed to spark confrontation.

“They were looking for a military incident that the warmongers who want a war in the Caribbean are seeking,” he alleged.

Beijing had become increasingly outspoken in its defence of Caracas. Foreign Ministry spokesman Lin Jian argued Thursday that “coercion and bullying only serve to push countries away and will increasingly not work”, adding that Latin America is “no one’s backyard” and has the right to choose its partners independently.

The remarks echoed other recent condemnations from Beijing, which has accused Washington of adopting an aggressive posture in Latin America and of pushing countries in the region into confrontation with China.

Commenting on threats from Washington against Venezuela, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Mao Ning condemned in August the build-up and stressed that China opposed “any move that violates the purposes and principles of the UN Charter and a country’s sovereignty and security.”

She also urged the United States to “do more things conducive to peace and security in Latin America and the Caribbean”.

The alignment reflected years of steadily closer ties between the two governments. In May, Gil, the Venezuelan foreign minister, met in Beijing with his Chinese counterpart, Wang Yi, who praised “Venezuela’s resilience in the face of sanctions” and promised deeper cooperation in agriculture, energy, trade and infrastructure.

Wang argued that both countries, as part of the Global South, should work together to oppose “hegemonic and bullying practices” and safeguard the interests of developing nations.

For Maduro, Beijing had become an indispensable partner to weather sanctions and counter Washington’s growing military pressure. At Wednesday’s meeting, Gil reiterated Caracas’ call for cooperation with Beijing and other nations in the Global South to tackle narcotics and external threats.

“Venezuela will continue its authentic battle against drug trafficking and calls for cooperation to face external threats,” he said.

It's the Russian/Iranian approach to war all over again.
US will perform decap strikes, and Maduro will "retaliate" by striking empty barracks and giving advance notice of his targets.

>>2489113 (me)
Oh, forgot to mention the Yemeni approach as well. We're still waiting for them to deliver on their retaliatory decap strike of Bibi.

Defending the country against a direct US invasion is the only way Maduro rescues his legacy and becomes on par with Chavez, he becomes a national hero

A MONTH OF NOTHING
Good

>>2489117
They're not going to invade. They'll just pick off his government one by one, and he won't disturb a single hair on the head of a single American leader.
Only America and Israel are allowed to decap apparently. Everyone else engages in kabuki.

>>2489120
have you considered that they do not have the same military capability than the biggest military power on earth? retard

>>2489120
> They'll just pick off his government one by one,
any examples?

>>2489151
This is irrelevant. Smaller states like Iran, Yemen, and Venezuela have enough capability to conduct reciprocal assassinations, but they don't have the appetite for it.

>>2489343
What do you mean examples? It hasn't happened yet. That's the point of speaking in the future tense.

>>2489632
>have enough capability to conduct reciprocal assassinations
no they dont you moron

<Venezuelan Armed Forces update on progress of “Barracks go to the people” day

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Gave me a laff.

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Venezuela launches 'Barracks to the People' plan, offers military training to public amid Trump threats
Nearly a month ago, Washington deployed warships to international waters off Venezuela's coast, backed by F-35 fighters sent to Puerto Rico in what it calls an anti-drug and anti-terrorism operation.

Venezuelan Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino Lopez has accused Washington of waging "undeclared war" in the Caribbean, after US strikes killed over a dozen alleged drug traffickers off his country's coast.
Caracas also accused the United States of seeking regime change and stealing its oil and other resources.
In the crammed Petare neighborhood of Caracas, the main avenue was shut down for a day of mini-courses about weapons handling and other "revolutionary resistance" tactics.
"I'm here to learn what I need to learn to defend what is really important to me: my country, my homeland, my nation, Venezuela," said Luzbi Monterola, a 38-year-old office worker.
"I am afraid of nothing and no one."

<'Oil, gold, diamonds'

Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro – who stands accused by Washington of running a drug cartel – has long sought to mobilize civilians in the escalating standoff.
The Petare neighborhood was once the launching point for protests against Maduro's reelection in July 2024, deemed fraudulent by the opposition and much of the international community.
After thousands of volunteers were summoned to military barracks last week for training, Maduro ordered the armed forces to go into the neighborhoods themselves.
But the show of force was subdued, with about 25 armored vehicles parading in the capital city and fewer trainees.

Maduro met with rural workers in the Aragua region on Saturday, calling on "millions" to "be prepared to take up arms and defend the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela if it were attacked by the American empire."
In Petare, soldiers taught volunteers in groups of 30 how to handle weapons. Other topics included how to wear masks, basic first aid, and "ideological thought."
Outside Caracas, training sessions took place in San Cristobal and Barinas, where turnout was also low, according to AFP correspondents.
"All of this is about oil, gold, diamonds – our resources," said 16-year-old John Noriega, who came to the Petare event with his parents. "We will fight for what belongs to us."
On the coasts, fishing boats cruised alongside naval vessels, state television footage showed.

"Today is a milestone we are marking in the military revolution that we are all writing, the people and the Armed Forces together. It is a true military revolution!" said Lopez.
Venezuela launched three days of military exercises on its Caribbean island of La Orchila in response to the perceived threat from a US flotilla of seven ships and a nuclear-powered submarine.

<'Incalculable'

Trump warned Venezuela that it would face "incalculable" consequences if it refused to take back migrants he said it had "forced into the United States."
Repatriation of undocumented Venezuelans living in the United States has until now been one of the rare areas on which talks are ongoing, a diplomatic source told AFP.
On Friday, a US plane brought 185 Venezuelans back to Caracas, bringing to more than 13,000 the total number of repatriations since Trump returned to office in January.
Maduro's YouTube channel – which carries most of his speeches – vanished from the platform on Saturday. Officials in Caracas did not immediately comment.


Venezuela’s Maduro wrote to Trump after US strike on alleged drug boat
Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro wrote to US President Donald Trump days after a US strike on an alleged drug boat and offered to engage in direct talks with special envoy Richard Grenell.

In his letter, shared on Telegram by Venezuela’s Vice President Delcy Rodriguez and confirmed to CNN by a US source with knowledge of the matter, Maduro denies being involved in narco-trafficking – referring to the allegations as “fake news, propagated through various media channels” – and offers to engage in “a direct and frank conversation with your special envoy.”

The letter, signed by Maduro, is dated September 6, four days after a US strike killed 11 Venezuelans on a boat the US claims was being used to transport drugs.

The US conducted more strikes against speedboats last week, raising the total death toll to more than a dozen alleged drug traffickers, though the White House has not provided conclusive proof or intelligence data confirming the people killed were criminals.
Trump on Sunday declined to confirm he had received Maduro’s letter, telling reporters, “We’ll see what happens with Venezuela.”
A representative for Grenell and a spokesperson for the Venezuelan government both declined to comment on the letter.
The Trump administration has accused Maduro of being one of the world’s largest narco-traffickers and of working with cartels to flood the US with fentanyl-laced cocaine. In August, it doubled its reward for his arrest to $50 million.

Increasing tensions between the two countries have seen the US deploy warships to the region on what it says is a mission to combat drug trafficking, but Maduro has claimed it is an effort at regime change.
Venezuela has responded by launching military exercises and putting on display its Russian-built fighter jets in a show of force. It also claims to have mobilized millions of militiamen.
In his letter, Maduro says he is sending the US what he refers to as “compelling data on drug production and drug trafficking … that demonstrates that Venezuela is a territory free of drug production.”

“I respectfully invite you, President, to promote peace through constructive dialogue and mutual understanding throughout the hemisphere,” Maduro says in the letter.
Grenell, a former US ambassador to Germany, has met with Maduro several times this year to secure the release of US citizens wrongfully detained in Venezuela in exchange for hundreds of Venezuelan migrants the White House had previously sent to El Salvador.
On Tuesday, Grenell openly called for a de-escalation in the confrontation saying he believed the US and Venezuela “can still have a deal” to avoid war.

>>2489758
no u dumb

>>2489151
>not have the same military capability than the
It's "not have the same … as," you illiterate retard.
Aggro posters – every single time.

>>2490256
anglo or burger? fuck you anyway, not everyone is a native speaker


>>2491704
>TLDR
The letter Maduro wrote was rejected.

Here is your "people's war on drugs", fucking retards.

>>2491755
You were warned https://web.archive.org/web/20250611002945/https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2144941.html
https://archive.ph/Gnil7
https://leftypol.org/meta/res/41898.html
keep cheering for the WOD though, we gotta get those degenerate addict Venezuelan dealers for AES and ML social conservative christo-islamic purity. Less than a year ago you cheered Duterte, where did your spirit go?

>>2491766
fuck off man, I condemn war on drugs but your obsession with it is as annoying as your will to make it like something any fucking ideology on leftypol would defend

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Thanks for supporting the War On Drugs, enjoy your US invasion of Venezuela.

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>>2491774
Hahahahaha

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>>2491789
Bye bye Venezuelan AES

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I'm joining the War on Drugs on the side of Drugs


>>2491800
can you stop shitting up this thread

>SOUTHCOM Commander Alvin Holsey has returned from Ecuador after ratifying the security and defense cooperation agreement signed with the South American country in 2023. Holsey also met with Ecuadorian Defense Minister.

Nothing happening huh?

Maduro still alive?

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FT with a theory of thje U.S. strategy: oust Maduro, take the oil, and then keep it as a counter-balance to Saudi Arabia. (Think the implication here is that the U.S. could attempt also attack oil shipments from the Persian Gulf to China.) Also points to where the U.S. might escalate next by seizing Venezuelan oil tankers.
https://www.ft.com/content/03cb69bf-2c55-497d-ad07-2ca40ec6bfcd

>>2492729
>Venezuelan heavy and sour oil
>counterbalance to Saudis
That's so fucking stupid, it's probably true.

>>2492729
Interesting stuff, i potentially believe it.
There are too many ships there and not enough obvious pantomime is being made of it by the Hwite House for any of this to be just for show, IMHO.

>>2492878 (me)
Also, they keep saying things like this, knowing that they will not remove Maduro 'Diplomatically'.
>Special envoy Richard Grenell said Tuesday the US still believes a diplomatic resolution remains possible to avoid military conflict

>>2492900
Right. The "diplomatic resolution" is Maduro resigning.

>>2489116
Decap strike on Netanyahu would be useless, he'd just be replaced by Ben Gvir or whatever. He's also going through corruption trials rn and is becoming a divisive figure for Israel, doing stupid shit like striking Qatar just so he can declare emergency again and stay out of court, so it's better to keep him alive

>>2489110
Why doesn't China sell HQ9s and drones to Venezuela?

>>2493192
Probably too expensive for Venezuela.

>>2492866
>heavy and sour oil
they have the refinery for it. literally stole CITGO from Venezuela.

>>2488678
why do I feel all of the 4 instances are AI generated videos.

Any indication as to when it's gonna pop off?

>>2491799
>>2491793
>>2491791
>>2491788
>>2491780
>>2491774
>>2491766
Reminder that this is what your jannies think is good posting, worth enough to stay up. If you report it they will only dismiss as this is their buddy.
joke website.

>>2493402
he's right

>>2493278
Never. It was reported that they have about 4500 Marines and some amphibious assault vehicles. At best, this is enough for some coastal raiding and not much else. It's a nothingburger outside of the terror bombings of random speedboats

My uncle who works in Quantico just told me Hegseth is preparing a quick invasion of Venezuela. À la Iraq 2003, but much more rapid. Actual troop invasion, overwhelm the Venezuela army by sheer firepower (terrestial, aerial, naval), topple Maduro, replace by puppet government and put Maduro on trial like Saddam.
It’s happening.

>>2496051
>my uncle works at nintendo

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>>2493402
>Reminder that this is what your jannies think is good posting, worth enough to stay up. If you report it they will only dismiss as this is their buddy.
joke website.

>>2493402
Jannies killed LEFTYPOL. All good posts deleted, good posters get banned by arbitrary and contradictory use of ‘low level bait’, ‘sectarianism’, ‘pol’ but actual garbage is allowed to flourish.

>>2496051
I do believe the USA will try regime change in venezuela, as they have before, but I do not believe your specific claim that your uncle works for blah blah blah etc etc etc. coin toss on whether you're proven right but you may as well just be guessing and lying

>>2496100
leftcom flag crying crocodile tears for AES social conservative islam christian liberal theology lesser evil stalinoid toy getting rekt? liberal christian "AES" venezuela conservative WOD reactionary state getting rekt by big capital? LOL

>>2496119
Not supporting any of what you’re claiming. I had many of my leftcom brethren banned here. MLoids are pampered by the mods.

>>2496133
Why you affirm social conservative christian muslim faggot WODigger stalinists then? >2493402 >>2496100

https://apnews.com/article/pentagon-hegseth-meeting-military-commanders-4ceb8026bff7c652b08c08e8afb1df99

Hegseth abruptly summons top military commanders to a meeting in Virginia next week

This is about Venezuela, right? Looks like the anon who said his uncle works for Quantico was telling the truth about an invasion.

>>2496037
>>2496051
The Trump admin is so incompetent , I doubt they will be able to take over my grandma's house .

https://larrycjohnson.substack.com/p/ignore-ukraine-trump-is-pay-attention

>What we ought to be paying attention to is the dramatic buildup of US military assets off the coast of Venezuela. This mirrors the kind of activity we saw after the 13 June attack on Iran by Israel, as the United States deployed naval and air assets to the region in preparation for the US attack on 24 June. As of September 2025, the United States has deployed a substantial naval and military force off the coast of Venezuela in the southern Caribbean. >The deployment includes:


>Navy Ships:

• Guided-missile destroyers: USS Jason Dunham, USS Gravely, USS Sampson, USS Stockdale
• Missile cruiser: USS Lake Erie
• Littoral combat ship: USS Minneapolis-Saint Paul
• Amphibious ships: USS Iwo Jima, USS Fort Lauderdale, USS San Antonio (comprising the Iwo Jima Amphibious Ready Group)
• Fast-attack submarine: USS Newport News

>Military Units:

• Marine Expeditionary Unit: 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit, with approximately 4,500 personnel, including 2,200 Marines and sailors, deployed aboard the amphibious ships
• Air assets: F-35B fighter jets, MV-22 Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft, MQ-9 Reaper drones, and P-8 Poseidon maritime surveillance aircraft
• Special Operations Forces: Reported secret deployments for targeted strikes and commando operations in support of anti-cartel missions

>I cannot rule out that this show of military force is part of an intelligence operation — i.e., use the saber rattling as leverage over key members of the Venezuelan military to persuade them to launch a US-backed coup and eliminate President Maduro. But Maduro is not alone… He has the backing of Russia, China and Iran by virtue of his membership in BRICS.


>Maduro and Venezuela have more than verbal assurances from Russia. Venezuela concluded a significant defense and strategic cooperation agreement with Russia in mid-September 2025, when the Venezuelan National Assembly preliminarily approved a “Strategic Partnership and Cooperation Treaty” with Russia. This agreement is designed to deepen existing bilateral ties in defense, energy, technology, and includes provisions for regular high-level political dialogue and oversight commissions for implementation.


>Key features of the agreement:


• The treaty expands Venezuela’s military cooperation with Russia, building on the already substantial relationship, such as domestic manufacturing of AK-103 rifles and joint defense technology initiatives.
• Venezuelan cadets are training in Russia in advanced military specialties, including drone technology and electronic warfare.
• The agreement was advanced in direct response to the recent deployment of US warships, submarines, and fighter jets in the Caribbean, which Venezuela views as a threat to its sovereignty.
• The pact, which still requires a final parliamentary vote for formal ratification, is explicitly framed by Venezuelan officials as part of their rejection of “hegemonic” US influence and an effort to build a multipolar world order in partnership with Russia.
• Earlier this year, Presidents Maduro and Putin signed a 10-year strategic alliance, which lays the foundation for this further deepened cooperation and also encompasses arms control, energy sector collaboration, and joint efforts to bypass sanctions.

>Putin is sending Trump a not-so-subtle reminder that Russia still has some global reach.

>>2496100
It was regular anons and "leftypol is for shitposting" posters that ran off all the decent posters. The fault of the jannies is for letting it happen for the sake of "board culture."

I've said it in another thread, but I'd like to reiterate that I'm going to publicly self-immolate the day the US starts its assault on Venezuela. I'm not going to suggest others follow in my footsteps, but if anyone here cares even half as much as I do about this topic, I hope you'll at least attend a protest or something.

>>2496196
Please dont do that

>>2496197
I honestly strongly considered doing it in protest of the sanctions but decided it wouldn't get any press attention. And it probably still won't, but an invasion is a line too far for me. I don't want to ever be complicit.

>>2496196
Please don’t. Stop killing yourselves for no good reason, especially at such a pivotal time where the numbers are needed more than ever. Thank you.

>>2496196
No comrade, PLEASE do not go this route. You'd be better assisting Venezuela.

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>>2496133
Join us in the Teto thread comrade we just post Teto

>>2496203
>>2496200
My government has toppled so governments with impunity, all in the name of corporate profit and imperialism. I had the excuse for most of those that I was too young or ignorant to know better, but this time I'm fully-informed and conscious of what's happening. I'd rather burn than be passive in the face of such evil and butchery.

>>2496206
Why not do something useful like pop Robert Kagan instead of uselessly burning yourself alive? There's a huge list of people that the world would be better off without. The least you could do is take a shot at them.

>>2496208
I'm not convinced I could successfully pull something like that off, and even if I did, the government would just use it as an excuse to crack down on domestic leftists while escalating the invasion. And the American public would eat it up because they are highly susceptible to jingoist propaganda.

>>2496211
And setting yourself on fire isn’t an effective form of protest, it’s just one more gruesome liveleak video. If anything it’s a narcissistic act, trying to wash yourself of some guilt. You aren’t guilty, this wasn’t your choice, you aren’t the main charactet.

>>2496206
>I'd rather burn than be passive in the face of such evil and butchery.
You’re still being passive in the face of such evil and butchery. Indulging in a toxic and fatal form of passivity will only give the imperialists another point on their board. You have allowed them your death, and they will forever be grateful for that.
>>2496211
>I'm not convinced I could successfully pull something like that off
You’re already planning to burn yourself. What does that matter for at this point?
>crack down on domestic leftists while escalating the invasion
Already happening
>And the American public would eat it up because they are highly susceptible to jingoist propaganda.
Disapproval is at an all time high
>>2496214
Excellent points

>>2496194
Russia won't be able to do anything, they spent much more efforts on Syria and it still fell to US proxies, and they have enough on their hands in Ukraine right now, if the burgers themselves want to topple Venezuela there will be nothing to stop them.
The only good thing if they decide to proceed is that it will bolster anti US sentiment in South America and anti war movement at home which can be capitalized on, Russia will be irrelevant to this and I expect China to be flaccid as usual, selling labubus to everyone involved and keeping making money.

>>2496211
>I'm not convinced I could successfully pull something like that off, and even if I did, the government would just use it as an excuse to crack down on domestic leftists while escalating the invasion. And the American public would eat it up because they are highly susceptible to jingoist propaganda.

They're going to do all that anyway. You're just saying that there's a war against you and the only sensible thing is to them a favor by offing yourself for them. It's just cowardice, not principles.

American communists, your hour has come. Now is the time to prove yourself, to prove your worth, to prove your conviction to your beliefs.

You cannot hide behind irony anymore, behind a screen and an avatar, behind made up ideologies.

It's up to you to do everything you can to make the US lose this war. Sabotage military equipment. Organize general strikes. Radicalize the troops. Spread propaganda everywhere.
Force the desperate ruling class to overplay their hand, make them bring down the hammer of oppression which will only further fan the flames. Godspeed, comrades!

>>2496235
Thank Hashem I'm Israeli so I won't have to do any of that

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>>2496228
>China to be flaccid as usual
I dunno about that. China a lot of investment projects in Venezuela. You are basically fucking with their money. I'd expect them to interfere.

F-35s and Reaper drones join huge US Naval fleet patrolling the Caribbean
An eighth US Navy warship has arrived in the Caribbean to intensify counter-cartel operations despite legal experts raising questions about the scope of military authority and the risk of mission creep.

The Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer, USS Stockdale, has joined a growing US naval presence in waters overseen by US Southern Command.

Business Insider reports that Stockdale’s arrival brings the total number of US vessels in theatre to eight, part of an assertive attempt to disrupt maritime drug trafficking routes near Venezuela. It comes as Russia declares NATO and the EU are now 'at war' with Moscow in a chilling escalation.

Officials frame the mission as a whole-of-government push to detect, monitor and interdict illicit flows - an effort now backed by high-end air power and a Marine crisis-response force.

US defence officials say Coast Guard Law Enforcement Detachments are embarked to conduct boardings and seizures where permissible.
The emphasis, they add, is on deterring cartels, protecting the US homeland and sustaining pressure on transnational criminal organisations.

US Navy vessels in the Caribbean
• USS Stockdale, guided-missile destroyer
• USS Jason Dunham, guided-missile destroyer
• USS Gravely, guided-missile destroyer
• USS Lake Erie, guided-missile cruiser
• USS Minneapolis-Saint Paul, littoral combat ship
• USS Iwo Jima, amphibious assault ship (flagship of the Iwo Jima Amphibious Ready Group)
• USS Fort Lauderdale, amphibious transport dock
• USS San Antonio, amphibious transport dock
•The Iwo Jima Amphibious Ready Group is embarked with the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit, a roughly brigade-sized crisis-response formation trained for evacuations, disaster relief and amphibious assaults.

Air power and surveillance
Alongside the ships, the Department of Defense has indicated F-35 Lightning II jets are supporting the mission, enhancing the networked intelligence picture and long-range targeting options in complex maritime environments.

US officials also acknowledge the presence of MQ-9 Reaper drones, a proven platform for persistent surveillance and cueing. Specific operating areas and tactics are being withheld for operational security.

The political and legal backdrop
The deployment decisions were taken by the US Secretary of Defense in support of the president’s directive to dismantle transnational criminal organisations and counter narco-terrorism.

The administration has designated several cartels as foreign terrorist organisations. Supporters argue the approach unlocks additional law-enforcement tools and international coordination.

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>>2496311
This is just a political show.

Nothing Ever Happens.

>>2496311
>no ground troops
Nothingburger. Waiting to see how they plan to bomb a country with legitimate anti-western resistance into submission

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I saved this pic a long time ago from a Maoist third worldist book called "False Internationalism, False Nationalism" or something like that. Was thinking about it for some reason.

>>2496324
They can stage a few brigades in the states and airship them overseas in matter of days.

>>2496356
Maybe they don't think even that is necessary. Could be they're taking a page from Israel’s playbook: decapitate enemy leadership until they submit. The last thing I think they'd want is some kind of long, drawn out occupation or insurgency. Instead they'd rather just get rid of the intransigents and replace them with compradors that will play ball, abolish Chavismo, and let American oil companies at their resources.

>>2496390
Waiting until this works in Iran. Hezbollah was surely hurt by the killing of Nasrallah but really lost when Assad fled and the supply lines to Iran were cut

Trump administration weighs military strikes inside Venezuela within 'weeks', NBC News reports
U.S. military officials are reportedly developing plans for potential strikes against drug traffickers within Venezuela's borders, a move that could begin "in a matter of weeks," NBC News reported late Friday.

Four sources — two U.S. officials familiar with the planning and two others familiar with the discussions — told NBC News that the Trump administration is considering options that primarily focus on drone strikes targeting the members and leadership of drug trafficking groups, as well as drug labs.

Striking inside Venezuela would mark a significant escalation in the administration’s military campaign against alleged drug targets and its stance toward Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro’s government.

The sources confirmed that President Trump has not yet approved the potential strikes. Two of them, along with an additional official familiar with the discussions, indicated that the recent U.S. military escalation is partly a reaction to the administration's view that Maduro is not doing enough to stop the flow of illegal drugs out of his country.

The administration has already taken recent military action.

Posting on Truth Social, Trump said that the U.S. military had struck at least three boats allegedly carrying narco-traffickers and drugs that could threaten Americans. While the administration has not provided evidence of drugs on all vessels, a U.S. Embassy official and an official in the Dominican Republic confirmed that drugs were found in the water after one of the strikes.

<Weakening Maduro's grip on power?


Some officials within the Trump administration are reportedly disappointed that the recent military actions have not weakened Maduro's grip on power or prompted any significant response, according to an official familiar with the discussions. The White House is also facing more pushback on the drug boat strikes than anticipated, prompting careful consideration of next steps.

The potential for U.S. strikes is not a surprise to those familiar with the administration's thinking, especially given the recent large-scale military deployment to the region, reports NBC News. The U.S. recently deployed at least eight ships with more than 4,000 personnel and F-35 fighter jets to Puerto Rico.

One source familiar with the administration’s thinking noted, “You don’t move that many resources down there without looking at all options.” Another source familiar with the discussions pointed out the practical limits of the deployment, saying, “You can’t keep that kind of firepower in the Caribbean forever.”

Asked for comment on the story, the White House referred NBC News to an earlier statement from the president: “We’ll see what happens. Venezuela is sending us their gang members, their drug dealers and drugs. It’s not acceptable.” The Pentagon declined to comment.

A senior administration official told NBC News that the president is “prepared to use every element of American power to stop drugs from flooding into our country and to bring those responsible to justice.”

Meanwhile, Venezuelan political analyst Anibal Sanchez Ismayel told NBC News that “an attack on Venezuelan soil would have consequences from diplomatic protests to an increase in political persecutions of those they classify as collaborators, to further uniting the population with the need to defend sovereignty reaffirmed.”

NBC News reported that Maduro's government did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Maduro has previously denied any role in drug trafficking and repeatedly alleged that the U.S. is trying to force him from power.

<Trump administration goals

NBC News previously reported that the goal, according to a source familiar with the administration’s thinking, is to pressure Maduro into making hasty decisions that could ultimately lead to his ousting without American boots on the ground.

The administration has been using Middle Eastern leaders as intermediaries for discussions with Venezuela, with Maduro speaking to them about concessions he would be willing to make to remain in power, a senior administration official told NBC News.


>>2496399
Yeah, I don't know if it can really scale that way. From what I've read, Hezbollah was taken out of the game because of obligations to the Lebanese government and public opinion. Them not being their own independent government complicates things somewhat. Even with all the strikes against its leadership that Hamas has suffered, it's still going, so it's questionable that this tactic is really efficacious on its own.

Like we saw with Iran, there might be a lot of internal unrest inside Venezuela, but an overt attack from the US might temporarily relieve that pressure. Killing Maduro could cause a lot of chaos and confusion, but if the rest of Venezuelan society is united against the yankee then you're sparking on damp tinder. I think they'd have to just keep wacking government officials until the state collapsed in that case, but that would end up creating circumstances like in Iraq, but no coalition forces to keep resource extraction functional.

If Colombia goes to war with Israel will we see Gran Colombia rise again? Bolivar bros is it our time?

Fear and Hope in Venezuela as U.S. Warships Lurk
In one corner of Venezuela’s capital, hundreds of government supporters held guns to their chests, as one speaker after another, microphone in hand, urged them to defend the nation with their lives.

In another corner, businessmen and diplomats worried about the escalating tensions between Venezuela and the United States, about what they see as a lost opportunity for dialogue between the two countries and about the possibility of a U.S. strike that could unleash bloodshed and chaos.

Still, in other parts of the capital, Caracas, there was a battle-weary calm and skepticism that there will ever be political change in Venezuela.

Granted a rare visa for foreign journalists, I spent a week in Venezuela at a particularly tense time. Relations with the United States are at a crossroads, with the Trump administration sending warships into the Caribbean. The buildup’s size and President Trump’s public threats against President Nicolás Maduro have raised the specter of strikes, of commando raids in the South American nation, or of some broader conflict.

President Trump has said he wants to unleash the military on cartels and stop trafficking to the United States, and his administration has called Mr. Maduro the head of a terrorist organization threatening the United States and flooding it with drugs.

The United States says it has blown up at least three drug-smuggling boats in the Caribbean, including at least two from Venezuela, in a significant escalation of the kind of pressure that Mr. Trump has put on Mexico to crack down on fentanyl.

But while some drugs do come from Venezuela, fentanyl does not, and the cocaine that does is a very small percentage of the trade, far less than what comes from Colombia and exits from Colombia and Ecuador, according to the U.S. government’s accounting.

That has led many observers to say that the Trump administration’s real goal is to go after Mr. Maduro.

In interviews, some Venezuelans said they supported any action that would lead to the ouster of Mr. Maduro, who is accused of major human rights violations and whose movement has led the country for a generation.

Members of the Bolivarian militia during a rally this month.CreditCredit…
The group supporting the use of force is led by Maria Corina Machado, an opposition leader. Her base says that by removing Mr. Maduro, the United States could defend the result of last year’s presidential vote, which Mr. Maduro is widely believed to have lost. Independent vote monitors and many countries, including the United States, recognized Mr. Maduro’s opponent, Edmundo González, a surrogate for Ms. Machado, as the legitimate victor.

One of Ms. Machado’s advisers, Pedro Urruchurtu, said she was coordinating with the Trump administration and had a plan for the first 100 hours after Mr. Maduro’s fall. That plan involves the participation of international allies, he said, “especially the United States,” and would “guarantee a stable transition” to Mr. González.

But in interviews, other Venezuelans were far less eager to see the United States get involved. Many, even those who said they wanted to see Mr. Maduro gone, arguing that he has held on only through repression, said that a violent U.S. move was not the solution. Many people spoke on the condition of anonymity, fearing retaliation.

Some said they doubted the willingness of the United States to keep a large contingent of troops on the ground to ensure the stability of a U.S.-backed government.

Three diplomats said they saw few signs that anyone in Mr. Maduro’s inner circle would split to support an opposition leader, or that the military would turn on him.

Other Venezuelans warned that ousting Mr. Maduro would only invite the armed actors left behind — the military, Colombian guerrilla groups, paramilitary gangs — into a battle for the spoils.

And in Venezuela, with its oil, gold and other minerals, there are many spoils.

“You kill Maduro,” said one prominent businessman, “you turn Venezuela into Haiti,” which descended into chaos after its last president was assassinated.

Still others were skeptical that Mr. Trump was willing to get involved militarily and said that the president’s gunboat strategy, led by Secretary of State Marco Rubio, would only push Venezuela further from the United States and toward China, Russia and Iran.

Mr. Maduro has responded to Washington’s mobilization by arming civilians, sending tanks into the streets and announcing military exercises throughout the country, which have been publicized on state television and social media. But his advisers say the central message to Washington is that their government does not want war.

The Venezuelan president sent a letter to Mr. Trump this month praising his efforts to halt other conflicts and said he was open to a “direct and frank conversation” with Mr. Trump’s special envoy to Venezuela, Richard Grenell.

Early this year, Mr. Grenell seemed to be trying to improve relations, traveling to Venezuela to meet with Mr. Maduro just after Mr. Trump took office. But more recently, Mr. Trump appears to favor Mr. Rubio’s hard-line approach.

In an interview at her office inside the country’s oil ministry building, Vice President Delcy Rodríguez said that she believed Mr. Trump was leading the world into “a stage where the United States has openly declared war on the world.”

She called the boat attacks “absolutely illegal” and called for a normalization of economic relations with the United States, which has imposed sanctions on Venezuela’s vital oil industry.

“The people of the United States do not want war in the Caribbean,” she said.

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A woman with glasses and a mustard-colored jacket sits in a blue chair.
Delcy Rodríguez after an interview on Friday.
Even amid escalating tensions, Venezuela has continued to accept twice-weekly flights of deportees from the United States, said the country’s foreign minister, Yván Gil.

Several diplomats and business leaders in Caracas said that they hoped the United States would shift back to a policy of diplomacy, believing that persistent negotiations could eventually persuade Mr. Maduro to hand power to a reformist successor or moderate opposition leader in exchange for sanctions relief and other conditions.

They also said that he is tired but cannot leave office if he thinks he will be arrested. Mr. Maduro, who is 62 and has led the country since 2013, is under indictment in the United States on drug conspiracy charges.

On the streets of Caracas, the strain between the two nations has produced contrasting images of war and peace.

Several people said that they worked for the government, that their superiors had required attendance and that they had been given unloaded guns to hold during the event. Many hurried to leave as soon as it ended.

Others said that patriotism had brought them out and vowed to defend Mr. Maduro and his movement.

“If there is an invasion,” said Marisol Amundaray, 50, “I will safeguard my children and head to the street with my rifle.”

In other parts of the city, though, normal life continued. Not far from the presidential palace one morning, Constanza Sofía Arangeren twirled on a cobblestone street in a gold ball gown as a photographer snapped away.

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A young woman in a gold ball gown stands in front of a large wooden door. One person holds a light and two others look on.
Constanza Sofía Arangeren during a photo shoot for her 15th birthday, outside the home where Simón Bolivar, an independence hero, was born.
She was preparing her 15th birthday celebration, and her mother was more anxious about the coming party than a possible invasion.

No one interviewed said they were hoarding supplies. Some said they were not worried about an attack; others said they couldn’t afford to.

“In a normal country where there is a threat like this, the first thing people do is stock up on food,” said Estefanie Mendoza, 42, a social worker with two children, “but we can’t do that.”

While the country’s economy has recovered somewhat since a protracted crisis helped fuel a migrant exodus, the rebound has been uneven.

Mr. Trump and Mr. Rubio have argued that significant amounts of cocaine are trafficked through Venezuela and that they are seeking to stop U.S. overdoses. A 2020 report from the U.S. State Department said just 10 percent to 13 percent of the global cocaine supply goes through Venezuela.

Fentanyl, which causes far more overdoses than cocaine, is almost entirely produced in Mexico with chemicals imported from China, according to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration.

The boats that U.S. forces have bombed in the Caribbean have killed at least 17 people, according to the Trump administration.

Some legal experts have called it a crime to summarily kill civilians not directly taking part in hostilities, even if they are believed to be smuggling drugs.

In the state of Sucre, on Venezuela’s Caribbean coast, the first boat to have been destroyed, on Sept. 2, is widely believed to have been carrying people from the towns of San Juan de Unare and Güiria, on a spit of land known as the Paria Peninsula.

For years the region has been dominated by cocaine trafficking, according to Ronna Rísquez, a Venezuelan journalist who has conducted field work in the area.

Güiria, Venezuela, in 2020. While the country’s economy has recovered somewhat since a protracted crisis that started in 2015, the rebound has been uneven.

But migrants, trafficking victims and government-subsidized Venezuelan gasoline — which can be sold at a higher price in Trinidad and Tobago, just six miles away — also leave from this area, she said.

In an interview, one woman who identified herself as the wife of one of the dead men said that her husband was a fisherman with four children who left one day for work and never came back.

Some in Venezuela said they feared U.S. military action would mean more loss. And they said they didn’t believe that Ms. Machado, who says she is in hiding in Venezuela, and Mr. González, in exile in Spain, could guarantee their security.

“Name one successful case in the last few years of a successful U.S. military intervention,” said Henrique Capriles, an opposition politician who has clashed with Ms. Machado.

A bloodless U.S. “extraction” of Mr. Maduro was the stuff of Netflix, he said, not reality.

“And the cost for us Venezuelans, what will it be? What guarantee do we have that this will translate into a recovery of our democracy?”

Another article from the NYT confirming what escalation predictors have been saying. Rubio is driving it and the CIA is behind him. Also some Venezuelan opposition figures flew to the U.S. in May to meet with them.

>The push by top aides to President Trump to remove Nicolás Maduro as the leader of Venezuela has intensified in recent days, with administration officials discussing a broad campaign that would escalate military pressure to try to force him out, U.S. officials say.


>It is being led by Marco Rubio, the secretary of state and national security adviser. Mr. Rubio argues that Mr. Maduro is an illegitimate leader who oversees the export of drugs to the United States, which he says poses an “imminent threat.”


>In recent weeks, the U.S. military has launched lethal attacks on civilian boats that the administration said were smuggling drugs for Venezuelan gangs. But Mr. Rubio is shaping a more aggressive strategy, using intelligence provided by the C.I.A., the officials said. The Pentagon has built up a force of more than 6,500 troops in the region.


>The agency’s director, John Ratcliffe, and Stephen Miller, Mr. Trump’s chief domestic policy adviser, both support Mr. Rubio’s approach, the officials added.


>The U.S. military has been planning potential military operations targeting drug trafficking suspects in Venezuela itself as a next phase, although the White House has not yet approved such a step, current and former officials say.


>Those operations would be aimed at interfering with drug production and trafficking in Venezuela as well as tightening a vise around Mr. Maduro.


>Because administration officials assert Mr. Maduro sits atop Venezuela’s cartel network, they can argue that removing him from power is ultimately a counternarcotics operation.


>Mr. Rubio repeatedly cites the Justice Department’s 2020 indictment of him and other Venezuelan officials on drug trafficking charges. He recently described Mr. Maduro as a “fugitive from American justice” and the head of “a terrorist organization and organized crime organization that have taken over a country.”


>At the same time, two senior figures in Venezuela’s opposition say their movement has been planning for what to do if Mr. Maduro falls and have been engaged with talks with the Trump administration about that possibility … Mr. Rubio met with five opposition figures in May who secretly fled to the United States in what he called a “precise operation.” He has praised the opposition leader, María Corina Machado, whom he called by her nickname, the “Venezuelan Iron Lady,” in a tribute this year … Pedro Urruchurtu, an adviser to Ms. Machado, said in an interview that the opposition had developed a plan for the first 100 hours after Mr. Maduro’s ouster that would involve a transfer of power to Edmundo González, who ran for president against Mr. Maduro last year.

>>2501710
>“Venezuelan Iron Lady,”
Is VEnezuelan Thatcher really the propaganda they're going with? in 2025?

>edmundo Gonzalez
It might work he has some level of popularity more than Guaido had
Are the opposition leaders flying to American then being allowed back in Venezuela because if so then the Venezuela is too, imagine if mamdani flew to China to meet with Xi as a Chinese fleet was orbiting off the east coast

so is the all generals meeting about the venezuela invasion or is it not?

so when are they fucking get on with it already

>>2501783
there is not confirmation yet but some of the reporting seems to indicate thats the case

<Venezuelan Foreign Minister Condemns ‘Immoral Threats,’ Reaffirms Commitment to Peace in UN Speech

>Venezuela’s Foreign Minister Yván Gil condemned Friday Washington’s military threats and reasserted Caracas’ commitment to peace and multilateralism before the United Nations General Assembly (UNGA).


>In his address, Gil recalled the “countless attacks” that the Caribbean nation has faced, including an assassination attempt against President Nicolás Maduro, a mercenary incursion and hundreds of unilateral coercive measures targeting the oil industry and other economic sectors.


https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/venezuelan-foreign-minister-condemns-immoral-threats-reaffirms-commitment-to-peace-in-un-speech/

<President Maduro Highlights Widespread Support for Venezuela at UN General Assembly


>Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro highlighted the support expressed by the majority of member countries and groups of the United Nations for the defense of Venezuela and the region of Latin America and the Caribbean. The outpouring of diplomatic support occurs amid the multifaceted aggression that the United States is carrying out against Venezuela, which includes a significant naval and military deployment near the Venezuelan coast.


>During a televised broadcast, the Venezuelan president noted that the delegation headed by Venezuelan Foreign Minister Yván Gil attended the 80th United Nations General Assembly held from Sept. 23 to 29 in New York City.


https://orinocotribune.com/president-maduro-highlights-widespread-support-for-venezuela-at-un-general-assembly/

<Venezuela denounces “unprecedented” media campaign and psychological warfare


>Delcy Rodríguez declared that Latin America is a zone of peace, as agreed since 2014 by the member countries of CELAC.


>Venezuela is experiencing an unprecedented media campaign and psychological warfare, the Executive Vice President of the Republic, Delcy Rodríguez, denounced on Monday.


>In a meeting with the secretariat of the National Council of Sovereignty and Peace, the vice president stressed that the international strategy seeks to ignore history as a free and sovereign nation and execute a psychological offensive against the people.


https://www.telesurenglish.net/venezuela-denounces-unprecedented-media-campaign-and-psychological-warfare/

I hereby pledge my full uncritical support to Comrade Maduro against the fascist estadounidense crakkker menace.

>>2496390
Yes, that's exactly what's happening – a US removal of Maduro by coup or by decapitation strike (already consulting with opposition figures, per some reports). The silver lining is that it might persuade the Russians to get rid of the Zelensky menace by similar means, though more likely they will continue to tolerate the gun the US is pointing against them.

>>2496196
I don't care if you kill yourself, I just want you to know that this is the most moronic least helpful way to aid anything. Nobody even remembers Aaron Bushnell anymore and it didn't do shit.

>>2501986
It won't, the Russian leadership are scared opportunist vultures who don't want to die for their chauvinist ambitions, proles are supposed to do that after all. But for all the failings of maduro's rule at least there is something left of the bolivarian revolutionary spirit among the people in charge of Venezuelan which means they will go down swinging even if decapitation strikes are very successful. Also most of the (numerous!) Venezuelans critical of Maduro will certainly change their tune when the American bombs drop in their cities and kill their loved ones.

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>>2502449
daddy needs oil

>>2502449
is there any legit source of are the hinklerites making up stuff again

>>2502470
no there is no legit source

Top Trump Officials Intensify Push for Regime Change in Venezuela
US President Donald Trump announced on September 30 that his administration would expand surveillance of drug shipments entering the country by land, following recent military strikes on Venezuelan vessels in the Caribbean.

The measures come amid escalating tensions between Washington and Caracas, with Trump alleging that the Venezuelan government orchestrates an international trafficking network known as the Cartel of the Suns.

Speaking to reporters whilst travelling to a meeting with military leaders, Trump said operations against several boats had successfully halted maritime drug shipments. "All you have to do is look at the cargo that was scattered across the ocean, large bags of cocaine everywhere," he said, adding that land routes were now the focus of US efforts.

At a separate event with senior armed forces officials, he stated that Washington was actively disrupting Venezuelan drug operations and warned of decisive retaliation against threats to US citizens.

Since early September, US forces have conducted at least two strikes on speedboats in international waters near Venezuela. The latest operation resulted in three fatalities and included footage released by Trump showing a vessel struck in the open sea. He characterised the casualties as suspected traffickers and acknowledged collateral effects on local fisheries, asserting the actions were necessary to prevent drugs from entering the US.

The first strike on September 2 reportedly killed 11 crew members of a vessel linked to the Tren de Aragua gang, according to Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who argued that arrests alone were insufficient. The US maintains a presence of eight warships, including a nuclear submarine, and roughly 4,500 personnel in the southern Caribbean as part of its anti-trafficking strategy.

Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro condemned the operations as acts of military aggression, asserting that Caracas was exercising its right to self-defence under international law and denouncing what he called Washington's judicial, political, diplomatic and military pressures aimed at unseating him from power.

In response to the escalating crisis, Venezuela activated extraordinary constitutional measures on September 29, granting Maduro sweeping security powers under a "State of External Commotion" decree. The emergency provisions, valid for an initial 90 days, empower the president to mobilise armed forces nationwide and assert government control over critical infrastructure, including the oil industry and public services. Vice-President Delcy Rodríguez denounced the American naval presence as a violation of the UN Charter, whilst Venezuela's military has begun conducting training exercises with civilian militia members in preparation for what officials describe as a possible American invasion.

Underestimating Chavista strength is one of the recurring mistakes of American presidents.

Donald Trump is wrong to laugh at Venezuelan women militia members for their height and weight. They were the same ones who, in 2020, along with fishermen from Chuao, recognized a small boat carrying several former Venezuelan soldiers and two former Green Berets from the US Army Special Forces. The group planned to enter Venezuela by sea, seize a nearby airport, and fly Nicolás Maduro out of the country after a “fantastic” capture, the kind seen in Mission: Impossible, that could only succeed in their imaginations.

Aaron Barry and Luke Denman, the mercenaries in question, were two American operatives who had fought in Libya and Iraq and were recruited for the mission. They held Bronze Star Medals and other insignia awarded by the US Army when they were arrested, thanks to the very militia members Trump now mocks on social media. These are the same women the US president ridicules for their appearance and phenotype, yet he does not hesitate to accuse them of belonging to the mythical “Cartel of the Suns.”

Recent Venezuelan history shows a long line of underestimations and miscalculations by opponents, senior foreign officials, and US presidents. Pedro Carmona Estanga, then-president of the business group Fedecámaras, believed that in April 2002 it would be enough to arrest Hugo Chávez to force his resignation, and that Chavista military forces would not counterattack to retake Miraflores Palace, backed by massive mobilizations in Caracas neighborhoods.

Donald Trump believed his national security adviser, John Bolton, in January 2019, when Bolton claimed that if the US recognized Juan Guaidó’s self-proclamation as president, thousands of military personnel would defect and stage a coup against Maduro.

Later, in one of the most ironic episodes in Venezuelan history, Trump again relied on assurances from Leopoldo López and Juan Guaidó, relayed through Bolton, that Maikel Moreno, then-head of the Supreme Court, would issue a ruling recognizing Guaidó as president, with the backing of Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino López and SEBIN chief Christopher Figuera. The saga ended with Guaidó and López recording a video on a dark highway, calling on the military to rise up, while Moreno and Padrino López ignored their calls. For the immortality of Venezuelan memes, rebel troops fired ammunition stored in banana crates from the Francisco Fajardo Highway. The image of that fiasco, which sparked global mockery of US power, contributed to Bolton’s ouster from the Trump administration.

A few years later, the same fanciful, outdated thinking appears to have returned with the White House comeback of the orange-haired creator of The Apprentice. It’s no longer Bolton filling Trump’s ears with empty promises, but Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who also serves as national security adviser, envisioning a revival of gunboat diplomacy, when the United States militarily occupied Latin American nations and orchestrated coups. In Rubio’s “domino” logic, Venezuela’s fall would end Cuba’s revolution and oust Nicaragua’s Daniel Ortega. It would also send a warning to any country that defies Washington or draws close to China or Russia, Monroeism on steroids.

As in past cases, this calculation, made by Cuban American officials who have never lived in Latin America, assumes the “Chávez regime” would collapse overnight and that María Corina Machado would emerge as the undisputed leader of all Venezuelans, leaving everyone else to fend for themselves. But many things could go wrong. If US military pressure, “surgical strikes,” or “targeted assassinations” succeeded, Venezuela could descend into a power vacuum, potentially seized by military factions more radical than Maduro, or fragment into warlord-controlled zones, as in Libya or Syria, with a US-backed rump state in the center. Venezuela has a long history of regional caudillos that could resurface.

Alternatively, as in previous episodes, nothing might happen: military pressure could fail, Trump could lose interest, and he might strike a deal with Venezuela, exchanging Venezuelan migrants for oil, as proposed by MAGA-aligned members of his cabinet. Yet one of the worst outcomes for Trumpism would be a military intervention in Venezuela that achieves nothing. Such a failure would shatter the myth that gunboat diplomacy can be revived in Latin America. It could happen, for instance, that Trump deploys heavily decorated US soldiers, only for them to be detained by the very militia members he mocks online.

That is why Trump is wrong to laugh at Venezuelan militia members.
https://orinocotribune.com/trump-was-wrong-to-laugh-at-venezuelan-militia-members/

Thanks anon.
>>2504450
> potentially seized by military factions more radical than Maduro
I wouldn't like to bet on it, but WTF? BASED.

>>2491766
>>2491799
>>2496119
>>2496157

The Empire vs. Venezuela: “War on Drugs” Chapter

<Please join us online for a presentation by, and discussion with, Orinoco Tribune editors Saheli Chowdhury, Steve Lalla, and Jesús Rodríguez Espinoza (abstract below).


>Venezuela is back in the headlines of mainstream, as well as alternative media, around the world due to a series of threats of invasion coming from various level of the US government—supported by its vassal states and due to the deployment of multiple US warships in the Caribbean waters, unseen in recent years. As the empire’s threats and war preparation ramp up and the world watches with apprehension in anticipation of a war in the Zone of Peace, it should be remembered that the situation is nothing new, although the intensity and the means may be. The Bolivarian Revolution has been the target of the US empire since its foundation, and the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela has experienced dozens of coup attempts over the past quarter century. The current escalation was preceded by a widespread crackdown on Venezuelan migrants in the US—migrants of the US-imposed economic-financial-trade blockade—with the excuse of combating “Venezuelan gang violence” in the United States, using the name of a gang (Tren de Aragua) that has been almost liquidated in Venezuela by the Venezuelan authorities and connecting it, contrary to all evidence, precisely with the Venezuelan government.


>Similarly, the current war environment has been created under the guise of combating narco-trafficking to the US through Venezuela, again contrary to all evidence presented by organizations as diverse as the United Nations and the European Union. In this case also, Venezuela is being branded as a“narco-state” ruled by the leader of the non-existent Cartel de los Soles, a figment of imagination of the US president. Weaponising the very real issues of gang violence and drug trafficking that plague many countries in the American continent, including the US, consent is being manufactured to invade a nation that refuses to submit to the dictates of the empire of the day. In response to imperialist interventionism, Venezuela has declared a nationwide mobilisation, calling upon the people to join the Bolivarian National Militia. Venezuela is turning out to be a key battleground between an empire’s ambitions and those of a people committed to sovereignty and self-determination.


>Topics that may be discussed:

>1- Brief history of US aggression against the Bolivarian Revolution
>2- Facts about US military deployment in the South Caribbean
>3- Facts about Venezuela’s response
>4- Far-right opposition influence over current events
>5- Expected vs real effects on Venezuela
>6- Fake US War on Drugs vs Real Venezuelan Fight Against Drugs

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Deepening tensions with Venezuela, the U.S. Marine Corps continues to demonstrate its amphibious and expeditionary capabilities in Puerto Rico
In recent weeks, tensions in the Caribbean, centered on the United States and Venezuela, show no signs of easing. Alongside the significant military presence that the Republican administration has deployed to the region, there have been growing demonstrations of the expeditionary and amphibious capabilities of U.S. Navy and Marine Corps personnel and assets.

Throughout September, Puerto Rico has been the focus of these demonstrations, which, while intended to raise readiness and preparedness levels for operations in support of U.S. foreign policy, also send a clear deterrent message.

In recent days and weeks, amphibious exercises have been observed in Puerto Rico by Marine Corps units, concentrated at the Camp Santiago Training Area as well as other points across the island.

Images circulating online show the deployment of a wide range of amphibious, aerial, and naval capabilities aimed at projecting power from the sea to the shore for the establishment of beachheads.

As reported days ago by the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit, its 8×8 LAV-25 armored combat vehicles were deployed on the shores of Arroyo, Puerto Rico, after being transported aboard hovercraft launched from amphibious assault ships stationed offshore, including the USS Iwo Jima (LHD 7) and USS San Antonio (LPD 17).

However, the deployment of assets has not only included amphibious resources but also aerial ones, such as UH-1Y Venom tactical helicopters, AH-1Z Viper attack helicopters, and CH-53E Super Stallion heavy-lift helicopters. The latter were tasked with transporting significant numbers of personnel and vehicles by sling load, while the former carried out tactical transport, attack, and close air support missions, including live-fire exercises with door-mounted machine guns, missiles, and rockets.

Also noteworthy in the air-naval operations was the presence of MV-22B Osprey aircraft belonging to Marine Medium Tiltrotor Squadron (VMM) 263 (Reinforced), tasked with inserting forces into the Camp Santiago area of operations.

Finally, while these exercises and shows of force are aligned with directives from the White House and the Department of Defense, it should not go unnoticed that growing rumors are circulating regarding the possibility of moving forward with a military option to neutralize drug cartels designated as terrorist organizations, many of which have been linked to supporting the Venezuelan government led by Nicolás Maduro.

>>2504651
>>6- Fake US War on Drugs vs Real Venezuelan Fight Against Drugs
WODiggers don't learn.


>>2504660
>55:35 it's a big lie uh talking about uh the that the US is really trying to fight drugs. Uh and another important scene is that the US is a major consumer of of drugs in in the world and and no one does a real intensive important work in the US to combat that reality. Uh and actually also the US is the safe heaven for drugs lords. The drug lords do not live in Karakas or Boota. They live in Europe or the US most of them. And money laundering is another importance in the US is the is the biggest money laundering machine. The US banking system is the biggest money laundering machine in the world. And all international documents talk about that. So it's a a humongous hypocrisy to talk about uh the war on drugs and then use it against Venezuela.

> 1:02:14 What I'd like to do is maybe pick up on one of the uh important threads and then frame a question for you. The thread is the extent to which the war on drugs is one of the principal kind of ideological uh tools that is currently being used to wage the imperial war or intensified I should say against Venezuela. I really appreciated the ways in which you frame this in order to understand how the war on drugs actually operates or a war using drugs as a tool of counterinsurgency. I would add to many of the important comments that you had the excellent work of Alfred M. McCoy, the politics of heroin, CIA complicity in the global drug trade that goes into great detail about the involvement of the US in the global drug trade, not recently, but you know, for decades and decades. And of course, the great Gary Webb did the Dark Alliance series for San Jose Mercury News, which uh uncovered a lot of the Contra crack cocaine controversy or dealings that um were being referenced. I think it's also important to insist on the extent to which the drugs that are then brought into the United States with the oversight of the intelligence services are used very explicitly as a counterinsurgency tactic and in fact there are members of the US government that are on record stating as much.


>John Erlickman is perhaps the most famous. He was a Watergate co-conspirator and he mentioned regarding the Nixon White House that they had two principal enemies, the anti-war left and the black people. and he said, this is a quote, "We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did." End quote. Right? So you see here clearly a member of the US administration of course this is more dated but I think this continues unabated really taking the position that the use of drugs uh for counterinsurgency is really integral to fighting uh social movements and anti-imperialist struggle on the home front as well. So those were just some kind of general comments to insist on the importance of the framing that you're giving us in order to understand that the real war on drugs is a war being waged by the imperial powers in order to foster global drug production and use it for counterinsurgency and pro-imperialist agenda. It's not what's being done by those anti-imperialist states like Venezuela that are actually waging a successful war against this global campaign of using drugs to undermine people power.


>1:29:10 there are nine US military bases in Colombia area and uh everywhere where there are I mean the US military bases apart from keeping a country under submission also function as drug trafficking I mean transit points it has it is true in Peru it's true in Ecuador it's I mean currently does not have a military base but when it had it used to be those used to be the transit points of drugs and in Colombia also the it's not like the US military bases has been of any good to Colombia either in the measures of security or in terms of uh drug fight against drugs.


>It has actually been a fight against poor people which Petra has also highlighted. He said that the people who are killed in the war on drugs are the poor people who do not have any other way of earning a living. And I mean they they are the easiest victims of drug traffickers because they are just being used as the mules to traffic drugs from one place to another. And they are the ones who actually like who put the bodies. So they are the ones who are being killed. And he also in another interesting thing that he has but it is a liberal turn of him that he was for the legalization of drugs not all of them but some of them. So probably I think Marijuana would be one of them.


>He said something interesting in his UN speech also when he was talking about the you know the drugs and the US war on drugs. He said that wine and alcohol all alcoholic drinks they are not considered poisonous. Although they are for the body but they are not considered poisonous because they are produced in the north. They are produced in Europe. They're produced in the US. On the other hand the the drugs like cocaine etc. they are produced in the south. No. And not just cocaine. I mean marijuana is also like produced mostly in the south. So they are I mean depending on where a drug is produced it is criminalized or not criminalized it is either celebrated or demonized. So that could be a liberal turn of him but he is also very insisted on the fact that um that in order to fight drugs like really a real war on drugs should be you know the elimination of poverty and upliftment of the people in general.


>1:31:51 For everyone listening and viewing online, please support the important work that's being done. inform yourselves about the real war on drugs or the real real war with drugs and support the struggle for Venezuela to maintain its independence and its sovereignty.


>>2504651
Thanks anon. This was worth a listen too, i think.

Venezuela and US edge toward war footing − but domestic concerns, international risks may hold Washington back
For many in Venezuela, the question is no longer whether tensions with Washington will reach a boiling point – they already have. Rather, the big unknown now is whether the U.S. will follow up on threats and the sinking of drug boats with something more drastic: direct military engagement or even regime change.

Certainly, Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro is preparing for all eventualities. On Sept. 29, 2025, the leftist leader signed a decree granting him additional powers. The following day, Maduro threatened a “state of emergency.” Already, Caracas has carried out military drills amid talk of being a “republic in arms.”

It follows a month in which Washington has positioned warships, an attack submarine and aircraft in the Caribbean and destroyed at least four suspected “go-fast” drug boats. At the United Nations General Assembly on Sept. 23, U.S. President Donald Trump warned of more to come, vowing to blow drug traffickers “out of existence” while repeating his assertion that Maduro was behind the trafficking networks.

Maduro and his generals deny that charge. Nonetheless, Washington has set a US$50 million dollar bounty on Maduro’s arrest and has rejected Venezuela’s appeals for talks.

As an expert on international security and U.S.-Latin American relations, I believe the U.S. position appears to be inching toward regime change from a prior position of ambiguity that has fallen short of an outright pledge to remove Maduro.

But Washington will be aware that any direct military engagement in Venezuela will be a messy affair. Despite increasing international isolation, Maduro still has friends in Moscow and Beijing, as well as closer to home in Havana. And such factors may force the Trump administration to continue to walk a fine line between maximum pressure on the Maduro government without full commitment to armed conflict.

<US ramps up pressure

Recent deployments by the U.S. Southern Command demonstrate a shift in posture by the U.S. administration.

The USS Stockdale became the ninth U.S. Navy vessel and third destroyer – alongside USS Gravely and USS Jason Dunham – to join the USS Iwo Jima Amphibious Ready Group maneuvering between Puerto Rico and the Lesser and Leeward Antilles, and the waters north of Venezuela. In all, at least 4,500 Marines and sailors are positioned in the area.

Meanwhile, at least 10 F-35 fighters and multiple MQ-9 drones are reportedly operating from Aguadilla and Ceiba airports in Puerto Rico, offering the capacity for persistent surveillance and strike options.

These forces are more powerful than the entire Venezuelan navy but reportedly fall short of the forces needed for a full-scale invasion.

For the moment, SouthCom is framing the campaign as enhanced counternarcotics operations, rather than a prelude to a blockade or invasion. Statements have highlighted joint patrols and interdiction efforts with the Royal Netherlands Navy, Canada, the Dominican Republic and the United Kingdom, and the humanitarian or information-sharing nature of missions.

SouthCom has described its position as one of readiness, not war. But this could change, especially with the much-anticipated 2025 national defense review expected to prioritize countering the perceived threat of Chinese interference in the Western Hemisphere.

And it is worth recalling that the U.S. has long maintained a light but steady military footprint in the region.

<Caracas pushes back

Caracas has staged military displays of its own.

Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino López announced on Sept. 15 three days of drills involving naval units, aircraft air-defense assets and militia participation. Maduro has declared “maximum preparedness” and threatened to mobilize a “republic in arms” if attacked.

If enacted, the state of emergency would be effective for 90 days and centralize military control in the office of the president. The aim is clear: to project resolve and raise the cost for Washington of any further escalation.

Venezuela’s military is not negligible, but readiness has been eroded by decades of economic crisis, sanctions and maintenance shortfalls. It is no match for U.S. military dominance at sea or in the air, although it could inflict damage through asymmetric tactics and militia mobilization.

On the U.S. side, the means for coercion through targeted strikes, interdictions, cyberattacks and sanctions are already at hand. Further escalation may, however, hinge on a catalyzing event, such as an attack resulting in the killing of Venezuelan or U.S. military personnel.

<Adversaries and allies

Regionally, most governments have avoided taking sides. One exception is Colombian President Gustavo Petro, who at the United Nations General Assembly called for “criminal proceedings” over the recent U.S. strikes.

In the Caribbean, there is little appetite for hosting a U.S. invasion force. The president of Dominica noted in her speech at the General Assembly that “there is no place in the Caribbean for war.” One exception is Guyana, which is locked in a territorial dispute with Venezuala over the oil-rich Essequibo region and has welcomed U.S. security cooperation.

Yet, an attack on Venezuela or an attempt at regime change risks rallying the country’s allies.

First among them in the region is Cuba. Cuban intelligence and security advisers have long been embedded across Venezuela’s military and security services. This gives Maduro some resilience against internal coups and complicates U.S. efforts to precipitate elite defections from Maduro’s inner circle.

While expressing political support for Maduro, it is highly unlikely that Cuba would ever be in a position to supplement any Venezuelan combat forces given Havana’s own weak position, struggling economy and relatively modest military capabilities.

And despite fresh affirmations of solidarity and the continued presence of Russian “military experts,” Moscow also lacks the political military bandwidth for large, new deployments. Still, long-standing military and technical ties such as training, maintenance, weapons sales and selective systems support offer Maduro a modest but valuable hedge against external pressure.

Even a token port call or bomber overflight could add political friction – and pause for thought in Washington. Russia has sent nuclear-capable bombers to Venezuela in the past, and its navy made a publicized visit to La Guaira in July 2024.

A man in army fatigues speaks and gestures in front of a large photo of another man.
One much more consequential factor could be the position of China.

Beijing plays a consequential role as a buyer of Venezuelan oil. As Western sanctions have set in, a growing share of Venezuelan hydrocarbon exports is now funneled through “shadow fleet” tankers and complex rerouting schemes, allowing crude to reach Chinese refineries despite sanctions and export restrictions.

Any U.S. campaign that disrupts these flows would hit Chinese refiners first. This would likely prompt Beijing to push back diplomatically and commercially.

In late September, China stressed that it “opposes the use of force” and decried external interference in Venezuela’s internal affairs – a clear rebuke of the U.S. military buildup.

The Chinese ambassador in Caracas has also conveyed solidarity to his host, emphasizing that Beijing will “firmly support Venezuela in safeguarding sovereignty, national dignity and social stability.”

China is offering diplomatic support but has stopped short of any pledge of force.

For now, America’s most likely path is, I believe, coastal policing and military pressure. At sea, this means the U.S. continuing to lead counternarcotics operations, but with Navy cover close at hand. The U.S. buildup could well boost underground opposition networks in Venezuela, increasing pressure on the Maduro regime from within.

This will be paired with increased financial pressure in the form of sanctions aimed at further squeezing Venezuela’s state oil industry, but calibrated to avoid a global energy shock. Measures also include restricting dollar-clearing and maritime insurance, blacklisting intermediaries and dark fleet tankers, and targeting front companies.

<Pressure short of war

Nonetheless, expectations of a military clash are edging upward. Several forecasters now put the odds of some form of U.S. strike against Venezuela before year’s end at roughly 1 in 3, with the chances rising further into 2026.

Yet the prospect of an outright invasion remains, I believe, remote. U.S. domestic politics may act as a brake: Opinion polls show most Americans oppose military action to topple Maduro, and an even larger majority reject the idea of a full-scale invasion.

Even so, three factors could shape if and when Washington steps up its action: a deadly incident at sea involving civilians or U.S. personnel; hard evidence that Venezuelan officials are directly tied to large-scale trafficking to the U.S.; and regional governments lining up behind stronger action.

While the odds of a strike and even regime change are rising, Washington’s strategy in the very near term appears to remain one of pressure without full commitment, using shows of force, sanctions and selective strikes to weaken Caracas while avoiding being dragged into a messy war or sparking an oil shock.

Venezuela says five U.S. warplanes came within 46 miles of the coast and described them as F-35s. What I think the planes are doing is wanting to be seen so they can identify where Venezuelan radars are located. Among other news, Trump told Congress that the U.S. is in a "non-international armed conflict" with drug cartels it has designated as terrorist organizations which is a 9/11 legalistic construct.

Will happen in either another universe or tomorrow

>>2441049
imagine being this autistic

Critical support to the United States in its continuing war against countries that falsify socialism and confuse the working class.

Long live the butcher Trump who works in spite of himself to create the conditions of world proletarian revolution.

>>2506439
>Venezuela says five U.S. warplanes came within 46 miles of the coast and described them as F-35s. What I think the planes are doing is wanting to be seen so they can identify where Venezuelan radars are located
Venezuela’s Air Defense Poses Major Challenge to U.S. Operations in the Caribbean
In recent weeks, U.S. military activities near Venezuela have intensified as part of Washington’s renewed focus on counter-narcotics operations in the Caribbean. Analysts are keeping a close eye on Venezuela’s extensive air defense system, which could significantly influence any potential escalation and military operations in the region.

Venezuelan air defense capabilities consist of a multi-layered network aimed at securing its coastal and strategic zones from foreign incursions. The country’s military, the Aviación Militar Bolivariana, operates approximately twenty Su-30MKV multirole fighter jets as the backbone of its air fleet. They also retain a limited number of F-16A/B aircraft, though these are often available sporadically. The Su-30MKV fighters are equipped with various medium-range air-to-air missiles and advanced systems for air-to-surface missions, including Kh-31A anti-ship and anti-radiation missiles, giving Venezuela a formidable response capability against naval threats and aerial intrusions.

A critical element of Venezuela’s air defense strategy lies in its ground system, specifically under the command of the Comprehensive Defense of the Airspace (CODAI). Central to this architecture is the S-300VM system, which offers long-range capabilities against various aerial threats. Supporting this system are medium-range platforms, such as the Buk-M2E, known for their mobility and rapid repositioning, as well as the modernized S-125 Pechora-2M systems that enhance the network’s flexibility at medium altitudes.

Additionally, short-range defense layers integrate systems like MANPADS, including Igla-S and RBS-70, augmented by anti-air artillery, which presents considerable challenges for low-altitude operations. Individually, these systems may not pose an insurmountable challenge to modern U.S. forces. However, collectively, they complicate mission planning, necessitating longer engagement distances and increased sortie allocations for suppression efforts.

Operationally, any initial U.S. military strike package would need to rely on stealth technologies to locate enemy radar systems, creating safe corridors for operations while deploying stand-off munitions against known locations. Mobile defense units would require robust real-time intelligence and coordination, which complicates engagements near the Venezuelan coast, particularly in urban areas where dense foliage can conceal movement.

On August 18, 2025, President Nicolás Maduro escalated the situation by mobilizing over 4.5 million militia members in response to perceived aggression from the U.S. This unexpected move followed the increased presence of U.S. naval destroyers in the Caribbean and a substantial bounty placed on Maduro’s capture. The armed militia, equipped with Russian small arms and possibly shoulder-fired defenses, could complicate the operational landscape for U.S. forces, creating ambush opportunities around strategic points.

The Venezuelan military’s conventional arsenal is predominantly from Russian and Chinese manufacturers, enabling it to maintain a credible deterrent near its coastal regions. The strategic capabilities of the S-300VM systems remain intact, while additional systems like the Iranian-sourced CM-90 anti-ship missiles enhance coastal defenses.

The mobilization of militias carries both political and military implications for the region. Domestically, it showcases Venezuela’s resolve and increases the manpower pool for various defense efforts. However, the creation of a militia also presents structural challenges in terms of resource allocation, training, and maintaining the regular military forces’ readiness.

Internationally, this situation has seen nations like Mexico dispute allegations that connect Venezuela to drug cartels, while allies Cuba and Nicaragua remain supportive of Caracas. Russia continues to be the primary military supplier, while China and Iran contribute through financing and additional military capabilities.

On the U.S. side, the deployment of multiple guided missile destroyers serves to reinforce Washington’s commitment to counter-narcotics efforts but may also exacerbate the Venezuelan government’s narrative of external threats. This narrative is often leveraged to justify increased military mobilization and tighter internal control.

Faced with economic restrictions and an aging military inventory, Venezuela increasingly relies on its international partners for technical support and spare parts to sustain its defense capabilities. Complications along its borders, particularly with Guyana and Colombia, add further stress to military readiness and deployment strategies.

While there remains uncertainty about whether U.S. ground strikes will be initiated, recent operational activities indicate an inclination towards lowering the threshold for force employment. Any future military decision will hinge on political calculations, but the challenges presented by Venezuela’s layered air defense and the now-armed militias signify that potential engagements could be costlier and more nuanced for U.S. forces. This shift in operational dynamics may notably impact strategic decision-making in the months ahead.

>>2506519
>better dead than social democracy !

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Maduro’s militiamen, rifle in hand, confront the United States: ‘Ready to defend Venezuela’
The scenes are astonishing. Men and women of all ages and physical conditions, zigzagging and crawling across the ground, rifles in hand. Quickly hiding behind mounds to avoid enemy fire. Aiming and firing with the greatest possible precision. Crossing a river, holding onto a rope. Perched on a tree, scanning the horizon with binoculars. The enemy seems to be at the door.

Venezuela is training its civilian population in combat tactics in case the United States — which has deployed forces in the Caribbean Sea and claims that Nicolás Maduro is an illegitimate president — takes the final step and attacks the country. Although a war scenario sounds impossible to many, the Venezuelan government has taken the signals from the White House very seriously, with the U.S. naval detachment having blown up at least five vessels that have left the Venezuelan coast allegedly on drug-smuggling runs and amid Donald Trump’s threats about striking targets on land.

Nervousness has soared among Maduro and his Praetorian Guard. Chavismo claims to have several million combatants at the ready — a figure impossible to verify — and hope to add even more with these crash-course exercises. More than one observer has raised an eyebrow. Facing them would be the U.S. military, with the greatest firepower in human history, one capable of subduing Iran in a single night with the most powerful non-nuclear bombs in existence. However, Maduro and the regime’s deputy, Diosdado Cabello, and even Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino, have shown no sign of submission in the face of Washington’s threat and often cite the war experiences of Vietnam and Afghanistan as examples that resistance is possible.

Most of those who have participated in the training are linked in one way or another to the United Socialist Party of Venezuela (PSUV), the ruling party. They call it “a patriotic duty,” according to militia members interviewed by this newspaper. The training sessions have been televised. They have been carried out in the areas of Petare and Coche; and in La Guaira and Guarenas, near Caracas. The National Bolivarian Armed Forces have patrolled Caracas’s highways with their heaviest weapons. It has been stated that the training will include all of the country’s Communal Councils. Civilians are trained in close combat, weapons disassembly, shooting practice, physical exercises, and theoretical work.

“We’re not here to play games. We’re not here to revel. We’re preparing,” Padrino said at a recent event with civilian volunteers who were enlisting for combat on Caracas’s central Bolívar Avenue. “At the right time, the people would take up armed struggle, inch by inch, to defend the homeland, national honor, and national dignity.”

The atmosphere on the streets, however, is still far from conveying the imminence of an international military conflict to the population. It’s not easy to go to a poor neighborhood in Caracas and openly recruit volunteers to go to war. The ruling party is satisfied with the response of its militants, but the prevailing sentiment among the majority of the population regarding what is happening is one of distance and expectation. The decline in Chavismo’s mobilization capacity is being laid bare.

They primarily train what the government considers “social movements” (Chavista civil society). Alongside them is the Bolivarian Militia of Venezuela, a military component founded by the regime to which many civilians also belong. The so-called social movements are made up of groups like Futuro and Somos Venezuela; the street leaders of each community; the leaders of the UBCH (Bolívar-Chávez Battle Units); the most committed members of the Communal Councils; the armed collectives; the beneficiaries of the Local Supply and Production Committees (CLAP); and cultural groups aligned with the government.


Both bodies have served as a natural bridge between the concerns of the civic-military leadership governing Venezuela regarding threats to the nation and the potential interest of ordinary people in hearing them. Beneficiaries of government social programs, holders of the so-called Homeland Card, are currently being asked if they are willing to enlist for national defense.

Although they are in the minority, it is true that citizens emotionally disconnected from the government have also enlisted. A significant number of volunteers have come forward for these military training sessions, a result of the ruling party’s total control of the public message and the undeniable organization of its militants, but the overall response of the population is far from being overwhelming.

“In Venezuela, we don’t recruit people. We’ve put out calls,” explains Rubén, an activist from the Las Palmas neighborhood of Caracas, who declined to give his last name. “You call 100 people, 15 register. We keep track of them. In each area of the city, you recruit volunteers. When you come to see them, from area to area, you have a large group to work with.”

“Ready to defend the homeland from traitors, from sellouts, from those who want to violate the sovereignty of this country, which is sacred,” stated Lieutenant Sara, on active duty, who also did not want to give her full name, and who did not want to add anything else “because we don’t have to talk to the international press.”

Several militia members and volunteers involved in these activities declined to comment, stating that they needed permission from their superiors. “I wouldn’t go out into the streets shooting, not even if that were to happen,” murmured a resident of the Chapellín neighborhood, formally identified with Chavismo’s organizational and social programs, who preferred to remain anonymous. His story is a common one in the twists and turns of national society. “There are a lot of people who are working with the government out of necessity. You work with them, but nothing more. It’s all lip service. No one is going to go out and kill themselves with so many hardships that people in this country are experiencing.”

Maduro recently declared a so-called state of external commotion, a constitutional clause invoked for these types of situations, although it seems redundant in a context like Venezuela’s, where the government wields complete control. Some observers of Venezuelan politics have been concerned about this measure, which could serve to increase censorship, reduce the limited space enjoyed by the opposition, suspend constitutional guarantees, or militarize daily life in the country.

“What the United States wants is to get its hands on our oil, that’s clear,” says Carlos Jiménez, one of the many leaders of Chavismo’s social movements in the capital, based in the La Florida neighborhood. “And I say there is dignity here; what the United States government says is unacceptable. We have the blood of Bolívar; we are the people who liberated America. We may have differences in the local debate, but the country, Venezuela, comes before all that.”

>>2510287
why are you reposting unsourced US propaganda shit

decap,
retaliation against empty barracks,
fizzle

You heard it here first.

>>2510775
what do you mean by decap? decapitation strike against maduro?

>>2510324
why do u think lol

US Military Siege and ‘Narco-state’ Allegations Against Venezuela: All You Need to Know
<Caracas has warned that the US is trying to provoke a war, as the Trump administration continues to carry out extrajudicial killings by bombing boats.

>The US Southern Command (SOUTHCOM) has bombed several Venezuelan small vessels allegedly carrying drugs to the US, killing entire crews. The strikes come amid the Trump administration’s military deployment to the Caribbean as part of its revived “war on drugs”, with the primary targets being cartels in the region, whether real or alleged.


>Legal experts have argued that US actions amount to extrajudicial killings, noting that the crews were not identified and no narcotics cargoes were seized, and that the use of armed force was disproportionate, contravening international human rights and maritime law.


>Caracas has denounced the US military deployment in the Caribbean as an attempt to provoke a war, using a false “narco-state” narrative against the Maduro government.


>‘Narcoterrorists’ or civilians?


In September, US President Donald Trump authorized deadly strikes against boats suspected of transporting drugs, with no interception, capture, or seizure procedures.

Trump also signaled that he is considering strikes on land and inside Venezuela.
First strike

>The first strike occurred on September 2. Trump posted a 25-second clip showing a vessel being destroyed by what was later revealed to be a missile fired from a drone. He claimed that the operation killed 11 members of “Tren de Aragua,” a US-designated “foreign terrorist organization.”


>Venezuelan Interior Minister Diosdado Cabello stated that the 11 men were civilians and that authorities had communicated with their families. However, he did not identify the victims by name. According to unverified local reports, the 11 people killed were from San Juan de Unare, in the northeastern coastal Sucre state, where the vessel allegedly departed.


>Anonymous US officials said the 11-person crew attempted to turn around after spotting US aircraft, and some were killed in a follow-up attack after surviving the initial strike[…]


https://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/us-military-siege-and-narco-state-allegations-against-venezuela-all-you-need-to-know/

>>2510983
that you're a glowie or a poltard?

Grenell was apparently the Trump admin guy tasked with Venezuela diplomacy but that's now out. NYT:

>President Trump has called off efforts to reach a diplomatic agreement with Venezuela, according to U.S. officials, paving the way for a potential military escalation against drug traffickers or the government of Nicolás Maduro.


>Richard Grenell, a special presidential envoy and executive director of the Kennedy Center, had been leading negotiations with Mr. Maduro and other top Venezuelan officials. But during a meeting with senior military leaders on Thursday, Mr. Trump called Mr. Grenell and instructed him that all diplomatic outreach, including his talks with Mr. Maduro, was to stop, the officials said on Monday.


[…]

>Last month, Mr. Maduro wrote a letter to Mr. Trump denying his country trafficked in drugs and offering to conduct further negotiations with the United States through Mr. Grenell.


>Mr. Grenell has tried to fashion a deal that would avoid a larger conflict and give American companies access to Venezuelan oil.


>But Mr. Rubio and his allies have come to believe Mr. Grenell’s efforts were unhelpful and creating confusion, according to a person briefed on the matter.

>>2511268
>that you're a glowie or a poltard?
to encourage you mental midgets to read more widely than marxism.com and some trot cutout site that tells you everything is going to be great.
Literal retard.

>>2511603
Trot sites never tell you that everything is going to be great. They hyperventilate about how every country is becoming fascist and desperately beg for donations so that they can print more newspapers telling everyone that their country is fascist so that they can get more donors etc.

>>2511611
they also support every glowie sponsored uprising and mysteriously find revolutionary workers councils in libya, syria etc… today, nepal. which disappear once the CIA backed freedom fighters arrive on scene

>>2511612
Tbh I've stopped blaming Trot organizations for this because I finally figured out why this happens and it's a structural and methodological problem rather than an ideological one.

Basically every Marxist organization in the West (doesn't necessarily have to be Trotskyist) lacks foreign contacts by default. There's also language and cultural gaps since generally the leaders of these organizations aren't skilled multi-linguists who can converse fluently in Farsi, Chinese, etc.

So the leadership will always be biased towards people from foreign countries who have the ability to speak English. Generally the subset of population that are English-speakers are majority compradors or even outright glowies working for Western intelligence agencies.

The organizations unthinkingly accept whatever these people say (generally extremely negative about their home countries) because they want to be relevant to a worldwide audience and not just confined to the Western bloc. But because of the aforementioned lack of linguistic skills and actual contacts, they are unable to discern whether or not they're being fed bullshit by a Western glowie and generally would rather keep such people around than to kick them out for fear of not being able to find another contact from those countries.

>>2511616
>Basically every Marxist organization in the West (doesn't necessarily have to be Trotskyist) lacks foreign contacts by default.
Do you unironically believe this?
I hate this vibes and feels nonsense masquerading as analysis. just go away. fuck off fam.

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>>2511548
There were rumours beforehand that this Grenell guy and other dilpos were clashing with the gusano and were kind of running parallel to the white house to difuse tensions.
With the diplomats sidelined completely are kinetic strikes (and possibly war) inevitable?

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>>2511628
Yes. I can cite dozens of examples but here's just one: WSWS tasked a certain English-speaking Chinese reporter with an Anglicized name("Jerry Zhang") with work on reporting on Covid lockdowns. Initially all his reporting was negative and then the leadership had to course correct and instead make articles praising Zero-Covid lockdowns instead. Why was there a course correction? The leader of the SEP saw the lockdowns and thought it was a perfectly rational response to the epidemic but this was running directly counter to the articles that their hired glowie was outputting. I've attached an image to prove my point. He wasn't fired for his blatant subversion but still continues to work for their party even today.

Likewise my local communist party is made up of 100% citizens with zero foreigners or foreign contacts. The most "exposure" they get to other countries are zoom link video calls with American and European workers which are focused on unionization efforts but this is still just locked into the Western bloc.

I want to ask you, seriously: does your local communist party have Syrian contacts that supported Assad? As in actual Syrians and not "Syrians" who immigrated to the West to live there? I can bet they don't. Likewise did they have Chinese contacts that support the Chinese government? I can again easily bet that they don't. Just look at KKE in Greece which is happy to accuse China of imperialism without even bringing in a Chinese dignitary to respond. On and on throughout the entire Western bloc it is like this. And when they do bring someone in it's a glowie like Jerry Zhang. This is a major problem many socialist organizations face. Also I love how you accuse me of vibes and feels when I have actual evidence and your response was a one liner shitpost that was based off pure vibes that did not address anything at all.

>>2511797
>I want to ask you, seriously: does your local communist party have Syrian contacts that supported Assad? As in actual Syrians and not "Syrians" who immigrated to the West to live there? I can bet they don't. Likewise did they have Chinese contacts that support the Chinese government?
One of my countries communist parties did a literal public and broadcast event with the Minister of the Embassy of the DPRK a few weeks ago, they also do the same with the Chinese and others.
Why are you like this?

This is where all the money will be going when the US cut ties with Israel.

>>2511852
>when the US cut ties with Israel
aRE you living on a parallel earth? How is president Sanders doing?

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>>2511854
>aRE you living on a parallel earth? How is president Sanders doing?
<Implying Bernie Kibbutz Sanders would cut ties with Israel.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/revealed-the-mystery-kibbutz-that-once-hosted-bernie-sanders/

>>2511603
do you really think we only get our info from this imageboard and far left websites? do you think these tell us us everything is going great? do you think we come here for the propaganda slop we are already exposed to against our will by merely living in modern western society?
if so, you're not a glowie or poltard, just an irredeemable moron

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>>2511603
I like the saying, just when you think it can't possibly get any worse, that's when things are abuot to go totally black.

>>2511603
you could atleast post the link or archiv

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>>2511603
>some trot cutout site
?

>>2510287
>last pic
Dude has more balls than teeth

>>2512217
>do you really think we only get our info from this imageboard and far left websites?
Yes?
>>2512734
I'll be happy to post Telesur when their dubbing gets more competent. it's pretty hard to listen to.

>>2512737
>Dude has more balls than teeth
Don't need teeth to blast away yank scum, anon.

>>2513046
Telesur has an english language version you moron

>>2513056
Yea, i know. I can tell you've never used it because if you did you'd know it sounds like fucking this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1tLCqfqk1c

AJ piece on Venezuela-US tensions

>>2510775
Sounds exactly right. There will be no epic based invasion of this terrain against a united population. They'll bomb some leadership, hope their CIA assets inside VZ can take power (they'll probably get purged), leave and declare mission accomplished. All they are doing is showing every anti-western country's population that their government is correct to resist the great satan and that all economic difficulties can be blamed on sanctions

BREAKING: Colombian President Gustavo Petro says the latest ship bombed by the U.S. off Venezuela’s coast was a Colombian vessel carrying Colombian citizens. Petro warns Trump has now triggered a “war scenario” in the Caribbean. “This is no war against smuggling,” Petro said. “It is a war for oil, and it must be stopped by the world.”

>>2514045
GODstavo Chatro will invade the US and Rape every politician personally.

I hope not.

empty barracks

>>2514058
and he will be scandalously crossdressing as he does it

>>2513606
'empty barracks' cucknado incoming

>>2514405
he'll invade even if he gets it. nothing would be more trump than invading a country 1 day after getting a peace prize named after the guy who invented dynamite

>>2514045
Damn, is Trump going to just fumble all of South America?

No groyper will comment on the war against south america

>>2510287
They should be digging tunnels and deep storage bunkers, and they should prioritize teaching digging tunnels, trenches and building traps for the militiamen

>>2441049
>>2441228
Fuck off, predditors

A common opinion on Reddit is that all this bluster is about deterring Venezuela from attacking Guyana and that US doesn't care about Venezuelas oil because it's high sulfur. What's your opinion on this?

>>2514857
that redditors are imperialist retards

FYI

They should've just given the Nobel peace prize to Netanyahu

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Nobel PEACE prize literally awarded to someone who advocates for US military intervention in a peaceful nation

>>2515816
the empire's ramping up a regime-change op so nobel is doing their part for the propaganda push.

every western institution is corrupt and rotten to the core. the mask just slips more every day.

>>2515821
that or you are just waking up a little more each day

Venezuela’s Maduro Offered the U.S. His Nation’s Riches to Avoid Conflict

Venezuelan officials, hoping to end their country’s clash with the United States, offered the Trump administration a dominant stake in Venezuela’s oil and other mineral wealth in discussions that lasted for months, according to multiple people close to the talks.

The far-reaching offer remained on the table as the Trump administration called the government of President Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela a “narco-terror cartel,” amassed warships in the Caribbean and began blowing up boats that American officials say were carrying drugs from Venezuela.

Under a deal discussed between a senior U.S. official and Mr. Maduro’s top aides, the Venezuelan strongman offered to open up all existing and future oil and gold projects to American companies, give preferential contracts to American businesses, reverse the flow of Venezuelan oil exports from China to the United States, and slash his country’s energy and mining contracts with Chinese, Iranian and Russian firms.

The Trump administration ended up rebuffing Mr. Maduro’s economic concessions and cut off diplomacy with Venezuela last week. The move effectively killed the deal, at least for now, the people close to the discussion said.

Marco Rubio, the U.S. secretary of state and national security adviser, has been the leading voice in the administration’s push to oust Mr. Maduro. He has called Mr. Maduro an illegitimate leader who is a “fugitive from American justice” and has been skeptical of the diplomatic approach conducted by a special U.S. envoy, Richard Grenell.

While Mr. Grenell and Venezuelan officials made progress on economic issues, they failed to agree on Mr. Maduro’s political future, according to the people close to the negotiations. Venezuela’s foreign minister, Yván Gil, said in an interview last month that Mr. Maduro would not negotiate his exit.

In Washington, American officials offer differing assessments of the talks. One U.S. official said the reports of negotiations over the lifting of sanctions and access to the Venezuelan market was “not an accurate assessment of what took place.”

But other American officials said U.S. and Venezuelan officials held repeated talks over what economic normalization would look like, including access to Venezuelan energy markets by American companies and a lifting of U.S. sanctions.

As Mr. Grenell and Mr. Maduro’s envoys negotiated a deal, the leader of Venezuela’s main opposition movement, María Corina Machado, pitched her own economic proposal in New York.

She argued that even greater economic wealth — $1.7 trillion in 15 years — awaited U.S. companies in Venezuela if her movement launched a political transition. (Ms. Machado was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday for what the Norwegian Nobel Committee described as “her tireless work promoting democratic rights for the people of Venezuela.”)

Ms. Machado’s economic adviser, Sary Levy (Oh my fucking god lol), said the investment deals offered by Mr. Maduro would never materialize without democracy, rule of law and individual freedoms.

“Our message to the oil companies is: We want you here, certainly,” Ms. Machado told American corporate representatives in June. “We want you here not producing crumbs of a couple hundred thousand barrels a day. We want you here producing millions of barrels a day.”

“Our message to the oil companies is: We want you here, certainly,” Ms. Machado told American corporate representatives in June. “We want you here not producing crumbs of a couple hundred thousand barrels a day. We want you here producing millions of barrels a day.”

The deal discussed between Mr. Grenell and Venezuelan officials was especially sweeping, representing arguably the most ambitious attempt at resource diplomacy during the president’s second term.

Normalizing trade and allowing American companies back into Venezuela could be tempting to some U.S. officials because of the country’s oil reserves, the world’s largest, as well as significant deposits of natural gas, gold, iron, bauxite and coltan, a mineral mix used in electric batteries.

Venezuela’s state oil company has given Chevron, the largest American company working in Venezuela, full control of their joint oil projects and the two entities have discussed giving Chevron a stake in another major oil field.

Venezuelan officials have worked to repair relations with another U.S. oil giant, ConocoPhillips, which left Venezuela in 2007 after the government seized its operations. Mr. Maduro’s government and Conoco have been negotiating an oil trading deal as recently as this year, according to two people familiar with the talks.

Mr. Maduro came to support most of the economic terms in the proposal discussed with Mr. Grenell.

A person familiar with the negotiations said Mr. Maduro initially wavered on the American demand to limit Venezuela’s economic ties with China, Russia and Iran.

But he eventually saw that loosening those alliances was an inevitable price for avoiding American military intervention, the person said. To maximize income in the face of U.S. pressure, Venezuela has also stopped sending oil to Cuba, worsening acute electricity shortages in the allied nation.

Mr. Grenell’s economic negotiations with Mr. Maduro’s envoys faced strong opposition from Mr. Rubio, a Cuban American and former senator who has long viewed Mr. Maduro’s downfall as a crucial step to ending the Communist dictatorship on the island.

Chevron got its U.S. Treasury license to operate in Venezuela reinstated in July, according to the Venezuelan government. The company succeeded in overturning the ban imposed by Mr. Trump months earlier after a concerted lobbying push in Washington, according to people familiar with the deal.

The Treasury Department on Wednesday issued another license that in effect allows Shell, Europe’s largest energy company, to restart work in Venezuela. Under a new permit, Shell could begin producing gas from a massive offshore Venezuelan field as soon as next year, according to a person familiar with the deal.

https://archive.is/I4k7N

>>2516273
News Anon, please stop posting this propaganda bullshit.

So, right now, at what percentages of war happening or a neh outcome are we at?

I'll say 60% there will be a war somewhat soon and 40% into nothing ever happens.

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Nobel War Prize

>>2516373
Trump snubbed of the Nobel Peace Prize. Ironically, this may make him butthurt enough to cancel the plans to go to war.

>>2516373
i was thinking it was pretty unlikely until now. but
people were saying that the venezuela mission seems like a distraction for the second israeli-iran war, especially with all the tankers flying to Qatar.
a lot of the alt media and multipolarists are saying iran is imminent. what if its the other way around?
it may sense to attack venezuela, going for lower hanging fruit. even if maduro doesn't fall, then shit the place up and hope to cause civil war.
it will cause pressure on iran and russia to back them up, tying them up in a location on the other side of the ocean.
if they fail to backup venezuela and maduro falls, then it'll delegitimise any other states that seek china/russia/iran's support to rebel against the imperial system.

>>2516557
Prigozhin should have this one

>>2516273
Dunno, Maduro really can do that. Yeah, he's no Mao or Ho Shi Min, or even Stalin. However, whole world still sees USAmerica blantantly robbing the other nation on gunpoint, right?

>>2516677
Nobody will do shit. What a fucked up timeline.

>>2516606
>a lot of the alt media and multipolarists are saying iran is imminent. what if its the other way around?
A lot of alt-media types are reactive conspiracy brained types. They tend to (a) see thing in the news and (b) another thing happens in the news, so therefore = (b) is a distraction from (a). Now, I think there is a conspiracy to overthrow the Venezuelan government and the "war on drugs" is a pretext. Fold narcotics into "terrorism," allege ties between cartels and the Venezuelan military, and the Pentagon's toolkit becomes fair game. Also they were trying to overthrow Maduro during Trump's first term where there were all kinds of crazy plots, but it didn't work.

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This is very /isg/ BTW but it's one reason why Ben Norton split from the Grayzone when Max Blumenthal started going soft on MAGA. There were probably personal reasons too, and personal beef gets intertwined with political differences, but Norton lived in Nicaragua and was always like Trump is REALLY bad because of how aggressive he was in Latin America. He has done events with Bay of Pigs veterans.

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What a pussy

>>2514857
>that US doesn't care about Venezuelas oil because it's high sulfur. What's your opinion on this?
Isn't 'Flint Hills Corpus Christi Refinery' built for exactly this kind of oil (heavy, high sulfur crude)? I always learned they wanted to steal the oil so they could take it across the sea and refine it, sanctions of venezuela was, in part, always exactly about making it harder for them to sell it, because most, outside of the USA, nearby do not have the capability.

>>2516889
tbf, this is presumably an exchange offer for the US backing off of regime change and reducing sanctions. It would be normal for Vz to have a lot of trade with the US. It's a huge rich country very close by. China and Russia are on the other side of the world. If the US would back off its BS of course VZ would be open to a lot more trade and cooperation. So would Cuba.

>>2516913
>Isn't 'Flint Hills Corpus Christi Refinery' built for exactly this kind of oil (heavy, high sulfur crude)?
Yes. I think historically Venezuela had governments closely aigned with Washington and they built out that system.

The dispute over Essequibo is also curious, because Guyana was once a center for exporting revolution in the Americas second only to Cuba. (On a darker note, also one reason why Jim Jones decamped for Guyana.) South American guerrillas trained there. The People's Progressive Party which governs Guyana is a socdem party now I think but it's still part of the IMCWP (apparently) because it was historically a communist party. Venezuela also backed a rebellion by cattle ranchers in the region back in the 1960s:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupununi_uprising

Another aspect is that Marco Rubio is both the secretary of state and national security advisor. I believe the last person to hold both jobs at the same time was Henry Kissinger? Nobody is calling him Little Marco anymore. He carries an assassin's look.

Probably not going to happen, Trump has a whole year for the Nobel peace prize dangling in front of him and the hint of a trumptard right wing nut job selected for this year's prize as a dogwhistle

Starting a war that this year's Nobel peace laureate cheers him on would be too on the nose and damage the credibility of the prize too much and he loses his chance since they're likely to select some harmless hippie to try and repair the reputational damage Kissinger, Obama and now this year's Trump critter have done

>>2517010
>copium/hopium overdose
the west doesn't care about its image anymore. it's just brute force from here on.

>>2517045
If the west didn't care about it's image there wouldn't be caravans of Palestinians in Gaza returning to the ruins of their homes right now

>>2517002
I agree. He is one of the worst of the worst bloodthirsty reactionaries, like Bolton, and people ignore him because he has gray eminence, a generic face, no Trumpian bluster, or Bolton moustache.

>>2516880
this might be edgy for me to say but I don't have a shred of sympathy for US troops signing up to overthrow maduro. I hope chavistas slaughter the invaders. I don't care if they joined up for veterans benefits or a scholarship or whatever. I don't care of some of them are 15 years younger than me. Fuck 'em. I'm sick of feeling bad. When I was 17 I was friends with a lot of JROTC people in high school and I convinced the ones I cared about most not to join up the military. I will never regret that. I told them it was bullshit and there was nothing patriotic about killing people in the middle east, whether it was for Bush or Obama. Anyone still signing up for these adventures deserves to have their shit absolutely rocked by the people whose lives they are trying to destroy. If American troops actually disagree with invading Venezuela (let's be real, most of them don't) they should kill their officers. I hate my country and most of the people in it. This makes me a terrorist. I want the human species to be free of capitalism and my dogshit evil country. I am surrounded by enemies.

>>2517002
he looks like a mediocre criollo who thinks he can play kissinger

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>>2517002
>>2517062
I was thinking he is starting to look like Thin Pompeo. Must be the CIA juice.

>>2517002
It's so hard, what with all the spectacle, to picture politicians as broadly "competent" professionals outside of hustling and showmanship. How can one infer Rubio's… expertise from a career in politicking as a butthurt fake gusano with every part of his public character just as much for sale as any other politician.

Like, if one day you found your "creative" uncle, whose claim to fame is being "the ideas guy" in a marketing firm, promoted to an executive position.
You know he is, or was, a dunce (despite ostensibly having higher education) whose only real talent was speaking the language of business and playing office politics. Then one day he's executive of something and "in charge" of this and that and you are expected to see the man whose biggest a achievement was being credited on a dime a million corporate ad campaign, as a new man. A rich man with a new backstory and a company car.

And then, one decade and three wives later, Mr.Selfmade is a bottom run wage slave at a blogspam firm, prompting for thinly disguised scams and SEO. The new "data entry" kind of job.

The only difference for politicos is that they end up richer and keep failing upwards. But at the end of the day, what can really be credited to any of their skills?

>>2516889
>>2516920
1: Rule 1 Never trust burgers
2: it's a claim burger media is making
3: if it's true, Maduro broke Rule 1
4: If it's not true, we broke Rule 1 for giving the Burger media claim attention.

I'm not burger. What is official American leftist orgs position on what should be done to stop this war? Like DSA, PSL etc. Are they calling for general strike, direct action, vooooting??

>>2517058
>I hope chavistas slaughter the invaders.
But do you actually expect them to have the numbers or skills to go against whatever horrific experimental shit gets dropped on them?

❌ Regime change a desirable petrostate neocolony
❌ Appoint a fascist neoliberal as viceroy
❌ Steal their natural resources and "shock therapy" their economy to a permanent state of imperialist subjugation

✅ Award a fascist neoliberal lifelong freedom activist a Nobel Peace Price
✅ Liberate a nation from their authoritankie narco-terr'ist islamofascist autocratic dictator REGIME
✅ Appoint a Nobel Peace Prize laureate to oversee the transition to democracy
✅ Stimulate the economic development to liberal prosperity and mutual peace and security

>>2516886
and that makes Norton conspiracy brained?

>>2516886
I agree with norton on this a lot. There is a total racist hatred these guys have for latam countries.

>>2516889
If true, this just shows what a cancer the US is. It needs to be bombed by russia and china for being utter subhuman savages.

>>2517149
What if the experimental shit is mostly vaporwave? All I worry about is the rockets and missiles from the USAF. Unless the Chavistas have good manpads, it will be another Gaza.

>>2517058
Based burger reich traitor.

Is this true?

>>2519283
If it is, and they actually intend to invade Venezuela with only 10,000 soldiers, then it's the setup to a potentially hilarious punchline.

>>2519386
They'd just need to secure some landing zones and/or some airports and fly some rapid reaction forces to surge those numbers if needed. I feel it's delusional to put any hope in Venezuela's military against the US, if the invasion happens it will be a victory if they can inflict three digit casualties before having their governlent toppled.


>>2519434
The race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong.

Even if the US is able to carry out the sort of decap operation that you describe, you're still talking about occupying a massive country in a region with a history of armed resistance to American imperialism. The population of Venezuela also has a history of not only significant gains under Chavez's gov, but a lot of hardship and depredation because of the yankees.

Assuming that the nobel prize win was just teeing up Washington's favored "successor" to Maduro, there's still the problems of what this is going to entail.

1. This attack is coming unprompted and for no other reason than to put Venezuela under Washington's thumb
2. Regardless of Maduro's relative popularity, removing or even killing him isn't going to engender good will to the US or whoever they choose to rule for them, especially in the face of popular resistance in the past. Venezuelans might not like Maduro, but I don't think they want the yankees to come kill him either.
3. Whatever of the military survives the invasion is going to have to be purged, and there's no way that ends without engendering resistance in the population.
4. The gusanos that have fled from the Chavismo revolution are going to come back, and this is only going to exacerbate whatever anti Chavez reforms the US has in mind.
5. Even in light of lifting restrictions after initial success, whatever economic improvements do occur are going to be severely limited by the needs of the US government, the bourgeois character of the reformers, and the necessity of excluding Venezuela from brics and all the benefits which that entail.

At the end of the day, the US needs to loot Venezuela in order to shore up its faltering empire elsewhere. Imo they want Venezuelan oil to flood the market to try and undercut Russia, but that's pure speculation on my part. Regardless, I think the most likely outcome is a situation like South Vietnam. Caracas will be an American possession only as long as they can keep it, but the process of doing so will only ensure that they lose it in the end.

But this is all assuming that they can just kill Maduro and the military and Venezuela at large will just roll over, and I'm not convinced that they will.

>>2519452
That's disturbingly plausible.

>>2519434
>I feel it's delusional to put any hope in Venezuela's military against the US, if the invasion happens it will be a victory if they can inflict three digit casualties before having their governlent toppled.
<before having their governlent toppled.
Before the armories are opened and the USA+comprador governlent is faced with a decade+ of insurgency including cross-border raids from a newly empowered ELN/FARC and whatever new guerilla entity pops up on that side of the border, potentially expanding to Columbia.

>>2519434
I think you and Trump have played to much Modern Warfare.

>>2519452
The Venezuelan oil industry isn’t being bought up to speed any time soon even if Maduro just handed power over to Gusanos.

Crude oil also isn’t actually a commodity. The oil in the middle-east is mostly “light sweet” vs the “heavy” oil Venezuela has. These require different configurations of refinery.

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>>2519688
Amerikkkan bots all over the internet keep pushing this narrative everywhere that because Venezuelan oil is heavy and sweet that it is not desirable.

Mods, please ban these AmeriKKKan state-department automated shills from now on, thank you.

>>2519688
yes everyone knows this pdvsa used to be part owned by americans during the dictatorship and they had a deal with a refinery in corpus christi texas just like they did with iran and just like iran and ukraine they have been seething ever since they lost it. the refinery is now owned by koch and can still process hundreds of thousands of barrels a day but is configured specifically for venezuelan oil so its billions in infrastructure going to waste and has been a lost investment for decades.

and on top of all that just like with iraq and ukraine the point of monopoly imperialism is not necessarily to take the oil as much as it is to eliminate competition to be able to extract monopoly rent by being the only supplier. same way they cornered the euro market by eliminating russia so they can name their price with transatlantic fracking gas. trump rejects maduros terms despite being unbelievable unfair to venezuela because they wont even give up 1% to develop locally the point being to ensure development does not happen under any circumstances.

also pdvsa can refine something like 70% of their own crude daily and could just sit on the rest as stockpile to crash markets when the us fucks around or produce less to increase prices. they are the fifth largest producer and own the second biggest refinery in the world

Where can I sign up to kill amerisharts?
I want to defend Venezuela.
I want to drink the blood of westoids and sit atop a throne of americunt skulls

>>2519707
This is why americunts are a subhuman species of shit and need to be bombed. Sure there are good americans but americans don't care that there are "good iraqis" and "good venezuelans" etc. I want the russians to fucking stop being pussies and give ameritards a bloody nose.

>>2519961
Get a flight to Caracas or the east of Columbia. Ask around.

https://johnhelmer.net/what-is-russias-strategic-partnership-agreement-with-venezuela-worth-if-the-us-attacks/

>According to Putin in his video conference with Maduro in March,   “today, our relations have reached the level of strategic partnership. Mr President, today you carry on the Comandante’s cause, upholding your country’s sovereignty and steadfast course on close cooperation with Russia, which is traditionally built on the foundation of friendship, mutual trust and consideration of each other’s interests. For its part, Russia is doing and will continue to do everything possible to make our joint efforts in the trade and economic, scientific and technical, cultural and humanitarian spheres even closer and more comprehensive. I am pleased to note that the Treaty on Strategic Partnership and Cooperation between our countries has been fully agreed upon. It will create a good, solid foundation for the further expansion of our multifaceted ties in the long term. It could be signed during your visit to Russia at any time convenient for you.”   


>Putin omitted mention of the words, military, defence, security. What then did the “partnership” for “upholding your country’s sovereignty” mean?


>In the past two decades Russian arms have been supplied to Caracas with crews, trainers and advisers. However, no Russian air force or naval units participated in the Venezuelan military drill in September.  This compares with the deployment of Tu-160 bombers in 2018, during the first Trump Administration;  and deliveries of weapons systems and crews in March 2019,  and again in June of the same year.  


>US-based assessments of Venezuela’s current operational capacities are mixed. “Venezuela has an unusually varied collection of air defence assets, including smaller numbers of more capable systems. However, even most of the older surface-to-air missile systems have been upgraded and, as stated earlier, are generally highly mobile, meaning they can appear virtually anywhere, disrupting carefully laid mission plans. They could still pose a threat that would have to be taken seriously during any kind of offensive U.S. air operation directed against Venezuela…At the very least, it might be expected that the Venezuelan air defence picture would prompt the U.S. military to rely heavily on stealthy aircraft like the F-35, especially for any direct strikes on targets in defended areas of the country, as well as costly standoff munitions. Such a campaign would also require the support of defence-suppression assets and other support aircraft with their associated capabilities.”   


>In mid-2024, the Pentagon-funded Centre for Strategic and International Studies in Washington   concluded that Russia’s readiness to support Venezuela in a military conflict with the US is more symbolic than substantial. “Russia’s actions in the Caribbean are a form of symbolic engagement with allies that typically challenges U.S. leadership in the region… in contrast to the United States’ tangible support for Ukraine, Russian actions have been primarily symbolic, demonstrating Moscow’s capacity to engage countries close to U.S. territory and highlighting Washington’s failure to isolate Russia globally. Yet, it also indicates that Moscow is comfortable operating in the Western Hemisphere, underscoring the potential for escalation.”  


>Oleg Tsarev — a leading Ukrainian opposition figure and candidate president for Kiev currently in exile in Crimea — has observed: “China and Russia…are major investors in Venezuela’s oil industry. China buys more than 90% of all Venezuelan oil, and is also one of the main creditors of Caracas. Russian investment exceeds $4 billion. In the event of an American invasion of Venezuela or a change in the foreign policy of Maduro, Moscow and Beijing are likely to lose their investments.  Maria Machado, the newly minted Nobel laureate and leader of the Venezuelan opposition, has also offered projects worth almost $2 trillion over 15 years to the Americans. In general, the government and the opposition of Venezuela are now competing to see who will offer Trump more and appease him better.”


>“But, as practice shows, attempts to buy off the Americans, if they are firmly focused on regime change, do not lead to anything good. Maduro would be especially foolish to sacrifice relations with China and Russia at the request of the United States. This will only hasten his end if Trump nevertheless gives the go-ahead for a change of power in Caracas.”  – October 11.

https://x.com/petrogustavo/status/1977850652563734905

The Colombian president does not give a fuck about what happens within his borders lmao

>>2520518
What's this? I did see the two were killed but have not researched them yet.

>>2519696
No that isn’t what I was saying moron. I was dealing specifically with the idea that the US gaining control of Venezuela would allow them in the short term to cover loss of Middle-East production due to a war with Iran.

>>2520529
Two LGBT activists from Venezuela, who most people have never heard of but were targeted by hitmen. They're both alive and safe now.
His response makes no sense, laments nothing, and the last paragraph alludes to things that aren't public which doesn't help. Even if he doesn't care about them, he could have pretended he wasn't numb to people getting shot at least. Diplomacy has never been his thing.

>>2520537
>to cover
depends what you mean by "cover". us doesn't import iranian oil. but guess who does? and who also imports 90% of vuvuzelan woil? hint: they just signed a pipeline project with the third country the us is also at war with already mentioned

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>>2518108
>vaporwave
did you mean to say vayporware here?

Is it happooning yet?

The Yankee is soooo fucked.
>>2519961
>Where can I sign up to kill amerisharts?
Maduro called for international bregades over the last couple of days

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>>2520714
Venezuela’s PSUV Welcomes International Brigades to Defend Revolution Amid US Threats
Caracas (OrinocoTribune.com)—On Monday, Secretary General of the United Socialist Party of Venezuela (PSUV) Diosdado Cabello said that Venezuela will welcome support from people around the world to help defend the country from an imminent US military aggression.
Cabello’s statement came during the party’s weekly press conference in response to a question from Resumen Latinoamericano journalist Geraldina Colotti. She inquired about President Nicolás Maduro’s comments on Sunday regarding the creation of an internationalist militia brigade of indigenous peoples from the continent and asked if the PSUV would organize general international brigades similar to those formed to fight Franco’s fascist dictatorship during Spain’s Civil War.

“If we have not publicly called for the peoples of the world to organize to defend our country, I take this opportunity to do so from this moment, that from anywhere in the world, here is Venezuela, which is being attacked, and any help you can give us is welcome,” Cabello answered. “Here you will be received as brothers of life. Brothers of life. Love is repaid with love. That is what they say around here.”
The PSUV leader stated that Venezuela is facing a phase of aggression. “I do not know if it is phase one, two, or three of siege, because a war today is different from the wars of a few years ago and a few decades ago. We are in a war, are we not? Right now, since Commander Chávez arrived, they’ve been threatening us and taking action against the economy,” Cabello added.

<A ‘false positive’ for war

Cabello explained that the US uses the “war on drugs” argument for military intervention in Venezuela as a “false positive” to manipulate public opinion and gain legitimacy.
He emphasized that if US authorities aspire to end drug trafficking, they should combat the narcotics transported along the coasts of South America toward the Pacific Ocean, where 87% of drugs are moved, and arrest the US cartels that supply millions of US consumers, rather than unjustifiably threatening Venezuela.

The PSUV secretary general noted that Venezuela uses all diplomatic mechanisms to avoid violent conflict. He said that since Commander Hugo Chávez came to power, the country has been characterized by promoting peace diplomacy. Therefore, in the face of the US government’s military deployment in the Caribbean, Venezuela requested an urgent meeting of the UN Security Council so that “if anyone was unclear about the scope of the siege, they will now be clear.”
Military support from other countries
Concluding his statements, Cabello expanded on the question about international militia brigades. He revealed that military and police forces in the region, including from countries currently controlled by far-right forces, have sent messages of full support in case of foreign aggression.



“Military forces from the region have sent similar messages, telling us that if they [the United States] mess with Venezuela, they will support Venezuela. We have received this from military forces, from countries… not necessarily with governments close to us, that if there is an aggression against Venezuela, they will show up to support Venezuela,” Cabello said.

He added that “indigenous peoples and military and police forces from other countries will come to Venezuela to support the homeland, which has done nothing but work in peace.”

>>2519283
why are qataris getting involved in everything?

>>2520733
Money. If they can "transform" Venezuela to their convenience, they can make a bit more money

>>2520722
WE NEED MANPADS!!!
MADURO, XI, WHERE ARE THE MANPADS????
Shit I wanna sign up. But we will need a shit ton of AD.

>>2520722
>He revealed that military and police forces in the region, including from countries currently controlled by far-right forces, have sent messages of full support in case of foreign aggression
Wait, are they supporting Venezuela or US? I find that strange that far right forces would support Venezuela, but hey, magacommunism i guess.

>>2520733
qatar plays a broker or middleman role. it talks to everyone. this makes it indispensable, if lets say the US needs to open backchannels with Taliban, Hamas, Iran, Russia, they can use Qatar.
host the largest US base for backup security.
they have Al Jazeera for 20 years its been spreading the pro-qatar point of view across the whole middle east, and global south.
if they become a energy, financial, and diplomatic hub that is indispensable for the global imperialist system, they hope they wont get taken out.

>>2520914
Realistically the US will just steamroll whatever military there is and the few manpads there are will be useless. If you really want to fight the US be fluent in spanish, have skills to blend in the local population, learn how to make IEDs without loosing fingers and be ready to fight a decade long insurgency that will suck ass.

>>2520914
<nnooo i'll only go if i get manpads!!
anon, you were never going to go regardless.

>>2520915
the fact they are their bitches economically doesnt mean they want a situation where the US can just come in and remove them militarily if they dont like them I guess
their support (if it real and not just talk) would likely be pretty limited anyway

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In an interview with the BBC, Far-right Venezuelan politician Maria Corina Machado called for the United States to invade her home country of Venezuela.
When pressed on whether she supports a military invasion of the country, she stated that, "the invasion is already here," claiming that "gents of Cuban, Iranian, Chinese, Russian, Islamic terrorists, and drug cartels have taken control of much of our territory, leaving trails of blood, destruction, pain, and hunger."
"What we need is liberation" by the United States, she concluded.
Last week, Machado was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
Machado and her movement has been funded and supported by the US government for more than two decades.
In 2002, she participated in a US-orchestrated coup that briefly overthrew the Venezuelan government.
During the 2010s, she spearheaded waves of political terror across Venezuela that killed dozens of people.

Nother fishing boat was hit today.

>>2521063
You are right. I am a pussy treatlerite. Thoughts and pwayers venezuela.

>>2521063
Adding another untrained fodder infantry which they have a lot of from the militias is useless anyway. Though MANPADs wouldnt help much, they need actual SAMs alongside underground bases and tunnels to house them

>>2521837
how may millions of dollars have the US wasted into destroying fishing boats?

>>2520714
I joked to my venezuelan GF that even though I'm not a PSUVite I'd join the international brigades in case of a yankee invasion, looks like I'm up

>>2521966
Money isin't real get over it.

I support Venezuela btw. I hate milei the traitor faggot. Looks like Ill be fighting on the same side as you fellow commies.

>>2522065
This, the US could spend ten billion kajillion dollars on blowing up one fishing boat but all that would happen is Venezuela would have one less fishing boat and the US one less missile. Money is only a useful measurement if you're talking about non-US countries.

So is nobody talking about the air space thing?

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This was posted in another thred today:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/15/us/politics/trump-covert-cia-action-venezuela.html
i'm a little sceptical because if you really had made authorisation for covert actions not sure why you'd brief the press. I'm gonna piss myself laughing if some more terrified yankee mercs are paraded in front of cameras in the coming months though.
>>2522789
>So is nobody talking about the air space thing?
Care to elaborate?

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>>2522789
>So is nobody talking about the air space thing?
This?
https://www.twz.com/air/b-52-bombers-just-flew-for-hours-off-venezuelas-coast
fdpd

>>2522829
The story might be the CIA psyop. My glowie senses are telling me the CIA is trying to induce paranoia in Venezuela, they want to encourage people to look for conspiracies where there are none, and incorrectly assume people are spies who are not. That's an old psychological warfare trick.

>>2522837
They were spotted on aviation trackers which is how these people found out about it, which means they turned on whatever transponder signals airplanes use, but which military planes often don't unless they want to be seen.

A big thing intelligence agencies do is plant stories in the press, at any rate.

>>2522848
Drumpf confirmed it

Trump authorizes CIA operations in Venezuela, raising pressure on Maduro

The new authority would allow the CIA to carry out lethal operations in Venezuela and conduct a range of operations in the Caribbean, the Times reported.
Asked why he authorized the CIA to operate in Venezuela, Trump told reporters his reasons were migration of Venezuelans to the United States and drug trafficking.
"I authorized for two reasons really," Trump said. "Number one, they have emptied their prisons into the United States of America…they came in through the border. They came in because we had an open border," he told reporters in the Oval Office. "And the other thing are drugs," Trump said.

Trump has not provided evidence for his claim that Venezuela is sending former prisoners to the U.S.
He added that the U.S. has made progress intercepting drug shipments at sea, and that additional efforts are now focused on overland routes.
"We are looking at land now, because we've got the sea very well under control," Trump said. Reuters could not independently determine what specific actions Trump has authorized and the White House declined to elaborate on the president's comments

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trump-confirms-cia-authorization-venezuela-2025-10-15/

>>2522851
>>2522829
>and elsewhere in the Caribbean.
Are they going to start hitting cuba hard again?

>>2522969
I wouldn't be surprised. Probably Haiti too.

A reminder that this is not the first Burgerreich attempt to invade Venezuela: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gideon_(2020)

The invasion has already started

>>2523805
cource ?

>>2523805
>>2523817
HOLY SHIT GUYS A VENEZUELAN JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

>>2523820
That’s just Jorge, he’s here for the game

The admiral who leads southern command suddenly quit for unknown reasons today

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Southern_Command

>The United States Southern Command (USSOUTHCOM), located in Doral in Greater Miami, Florida, is one of the eleven unified combatant commands in the United States Department of Defense. It is responsible for providing contingency planning, operations, and security cooperation for Central and South America, the Caribbean (except in Territories of the United States), their territorial waters, and for the force protection of U.S. military resources at these locations. USSOUTHCOM is also responsible for ensuring the defense of the Panama Canal and the canal area.[8]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_Holsey

>>2523852
I assume they're stepping down out of fear of future legal implications, is that a safe assumption?

>>2523872
since when do burgers get convicted of war crimes

>>2523921
I don't think and didn't say he'll get convicted of proper war crimes, i mean more internal burgerstuff after this party and HegSeth The Angry Midget is out.

Anons what if it's a 5D chess-move and they're going to invade Cuba?

>>2523872
If they are preparing to invade Venezuela, which seems likely to me, he's probably stepping down because it's a huge blunder in the making that he doesn't want any part of. 10,000 troops seems like a big number, but it's really not.

>>2522851
>why are people migrating from the country we keep sanctioning
it is a mystery

Sorry I was off by several hours.
The invasion has now started.

>>2523823
Jorge here, what's going on?

>>2524539
elaborate with sources

What would be all the consequences if Trump went to war with vuvuzela and turned into another iraq ? Aside from a refugee crisis.

>>2524759
>What would be all the consequences if Trump went to war with vuvuzela and turned into another iraq?
It won't because they, the US/NATO, actually need the oil or at least control, lest it fuel(heh) another "pink tide". The point is not to take out a potential regional power, like it was with the long campaign to destroy Iraq since the gulf war and so on. There is no Israel here either.

If the USA sees they can regime change without significant military involvement, they will. Otherwise they are just gonna keep strangling Venezuela because the precedent is that the people are *terminally* retarded and will sooner than later support their own Milei. Not in short part because the socdems in power refuse to take the radical measures to deal with the imperialist threat. So they are stuck with an ever diminishing offer to the masses.

IMO If Venezuela is to fall, it will be a negotiated affair like the recent bombing of Iran or the takeover of Syria, between foreign "stakeholders".

Trump probably expects that, with the gulf monarchies eating form his hand right now, and Iran/Syria subdued by the trade interests of China/Russia, these last two will lobby Maduro out in exchange for concessions in other areas. And if not now, certainly the next USAno regime will try the same with a more moribund Venezuelan economy. Barring another "pink tide", which is unlikely with the US breathing down their neck, Venezuela's foreign partners will just sell it out to cut their losses.

>>2524759
There are a lot more latinos in burgerville than arabs that could be sympathetic and start a lot more shit.

>>2524759
the actual realistic scenario is just what happened Panama, a government completely cucked to American interests where poverty will still be rife for at least 20 more years and where the 'left' will be persecuted and never gain power for several decades. An Iraq scenario is impossible because there's not any real guerrillas like in Colombia, who are just able to kill civilians on a random day with bike bombs anyway. The moment Maduro falls all the colectivos will scatter like rats because they're just a PSUV paramilitary.

>>2524885
This is delusional, Venezuelans in the US either ignore politics, hold vaguely liberal positions, or are outright full blown gusanos. They will never do anything about it, if anything all of these will be glad that Maduro is gone.

who wants to bet Xi and Putin will sell Maduro to the US

U.S. Detains 2 Survivors of Latest Military Strike in Caribbean

The U.S. Navy has rescued two survivors of an American military strike on a semi-submersible vessel suspected of smuggling drugs in the Caribbean Sea and is holding them aboard a Navy ship there, two U.S. officials said on Friday.

The Navy for now is detaining the two people aboard a warship in international waters, marking the first time the military has found itself holding prisoners from President Trump’s six-week-old campaign of targeting suspected drug runners as if they were combatants in a war.

Since early September, the U.S. military has attacked at least six vessels that the Trump administration has said, without putting forward evidence, were carrying drugs. The first five were speedboats, but the most recent strike targeted a submersible vessel, the officials said.

A Navy search-and-rescue helicopter retrieved the two survivors and flew them to one of the eight Navy warships that had been dispatched to the region.

The five strikes Mr. Trump has acknowledged killed 27 people, so the death toll has now reached at least 29. The nationalities of two survivors is unclear.

The Trump administration had not announced or acknowledged the latest strike as of Friday morning. By contrast, for each of the five previous known boat attacks since early September, Mr. Trump boasted of the operations, declared how many people they had killed, and swiftly posted surveillance videos showing the vessels in the sea being blown up.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/17/us/politics/us-military-strike-survivors.html

>>2524957
I easily take that bet, because the premise is moronic, they're not in a position to "sell" maduro

>>2525001
I think China is at a point where it can at least block the US from certain things they provide and use it for leverage.

>>2524830
>It won't because they, the US/NATO, actually need the oil or at least control, lest it fuel(heh) another "pink tide". The point is not to take out a potential regional power, like it was with the long campaign to destroy Iraq since the gulf war and so on. There is no Israel here either.

Personally I think the hegemon is desperate for a big win at this point. They've been rebuffed in Ukraine, Iran, and now China is beating them at their own economic game. Most of their military equipment is from the cold war, and the new stuff they make is expensive junk that can't be made fast enough or in quantities enough to compete against their adversaries.

There was that story a week or two ago about Maduro trying to make a deal with the US, which the US rejected out of hand. Assuming it's true and the terms we saw were real, it was pretty much a capitulation that would give the US de facto control over Venezuela's oil industry.

This leads me to believe that being given the oil isn't enough for Washington. It has to be seen TAKING it from a defeated Venezuela. Assuaging egos and propping up imperial prestige is part of it, but I think even more so is the implicit threat to the rest of South America. If the restrictions on rare earths continues then the US is going to act with increasing desperation and violence to secure them since cutting them off is pretty much a death blow to the USM. I think the message here is that it's not enough to just do business on favorable terms. You'll either be economically and politically subservient or else you'll be destroyed.

That's what they're thinking anyway, I believe. I don't think they realize just how much things have changed and just how much the use of American force has depreciated. At best they're looking at another South Vietnam or Afghanistan situation where they manage to assert control over a puppet government which is just able to do what it's told and which will collapse the minute the US isn't there to babysit it. There will be no victory in Venezuela, just a long term occupation which will necessarily sap badly needed resources from elsewhere.

If I were to guess, that's why the southcom commander left, because there really isn't any upshot to this operation. It's potentially a massive boondoggle that the military really isn't prepared for. Washington wants to put its foot down, and has no idea that they're going to be stepping in it hard.

>>2524891
>the actual realistic scenario is just what happened Panama
idk i think the balance of forces is a bit different

>>2525092
Gegseth is also committed to his war agaist Cuba and Nicaragua, the thinking in the white house is apparently that if Venezuela falls these two fall and if it survives there probably will be far less opportunity in the future for american ambitions in the region.

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>>2525117
could you summarize this? I'll try to watch some of it. But my point is that just like in that case, even if Americans kill thousands of civilians, we'll just have a comprador government willing to lick that boot harder than Argentina's current administration with the worst part being that extreme amounts of concern have been built over years to make regime change in Venezuela palatable for nearly everyone in the US and a big part of Venezuela's population and diaspora.

I can easily see it going up to 5k deaths before Maduro scurries and then the US appointed gusano and her puppet will say it was necessary while it will be conveniently memory-holed by everyone or justified.

>>2525128
That makes sense. Venezuela has supplied Cuba with oil in the past, so knocking them out would be getting two birds stoned at once. With Venezuela being a Brics aspirant, crushing them sooner is better than later.

Imo while everything Trump says and does needs to be taken with a grain of salt, I think the circumstances lend credence to the admin's stated intentions to tighten control over North and South America. I imagine they'll probably stick with their winning strategy of crushing smaller states while working their way up to prostrating Brazil. A subjugated LA is the sine qua non of US hegemony, so brics has to be forced out by any means necessary.

https://xcancel.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1979022580439732517

>JUST IN: Venezuela is moving troops into position on the Caribbean coast and mobilizing what President Nicolás Maduro asserts is a millions-strong militia in a display of defiance against the biggest American military buildup in the Caribbean since the 1980s — WSJ

>>2525022
>dude, trade war, lmao!
Nah, fuck off.

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It has been a long time Trump wanted to do that and now he's surrounded by sycophant imbeciles instead of competent political operatives.

>>2525385
Does Trump love Guaido that much?

>>2525405
Reminder that Corina has dedicated to him the Nobel prize.
So now he has a faustic deal to complete his side of the bargain

<Pres. Maduro | “The people is ready and willing to defend the peace of the country”

>>2524830
>because the precedent is that the people are *terminally* retarded and will sooner than later support their own Milei.
they already had elections with the candidate against maduro winning with numbers that milei can only dream of

>>2525229
they basically strafed downtown and massacred thousands of civilians blitzed the capital and occupied it then did a media blackout and buried everyone is mass graves. they could try to do the same thing to caracas but it wouldnt work out the same because panama didnt have any defenses and was basically just a militia inside the presidential palace that pretty much surrendered immediately. venezuela has an actual army air force and air defense and is 20 times bigger with mountains

>The film recounts the events which led to the invasion, the death and destruction caused by the invasion, and the aftermath. The film is critical of the actions of the United States Armed Forces. It also highlights the media bias within the United States, showing events that were unreported or systematically misreported, including downplaying of the number of civilian casualties.[2] The film also argued that the true purpose of the invasion was to prevent the then-scheduled retrocession of the Panama Canal Zone to Panama as agreed in the Torrijos–Carter Treaties, rather than the stated justification of removing Manuel Noriega from power due to his indictment in U.S. courts on racketeering and drugs trafficking charges. Panama ultimately gained full control over the Canal Zone on December 31, 1999, fulfilling the terms of the Torrijos-Carter agreements.


>The film states that the U.S. government invaded Panama in order to destroy the PDF, the Panama Defense Forces, which were perceived as a threat to U.S. control over Panama, and install a government which would be friendly to U.S. interests. The film includes footage of what are claimed to be mass graves uncovered after the American troops had withdrawn and footage of burned-down neighborhoods, refers to the alleged use of experimental weapons, including supposed secret laser or beam type weapons, and presents depictions of some of the 20,000 refugees who fled the fighting.

>>2525577
I haven't bothered to really study the state of Venezuela's military as my assumption is that the level of corruption that's rampant in the police and GNB (militarized police), is likely to also be found in armed forces, maybe not to the same degree. But I wouldn't put it past them to have the same problem the Afghan Army had against the Taliban where they had extreme absenteeism among soldiers or massive amounts of missing military equipment due to theft.

I hope you're right though.

>>2525405
That uygha is a nobody nowadays.

>>2521281
Waria Glowrina Machudo

>>2525623
>same problem the Afghan Army
ridiculous, they're not a puppet war torn state holding only through foreign support where military is the only way to get any money and theres 0 loyalty to some national ideal. And the military are literally the ones that got the chavist ball rolling

>level of corruption that's rampant in the police and GNB

I dont think those are especially more corrupt (and likely actually way less) than other police forces in the region

>>2525835
>I dont think those are especially more corrupt (and likely actually way less) than other police forces in the region
you think raping teenage girls is their goal and what they're ordered to do?

The US could easily defeat Venezuela's military in a matter of days in direct conventional warfare, but overthrowing their government and installing some US-friendly dictator is only the beginning - the US would still have to contend with the population of 28 million pissed off Venezuelans who now unanimously hate the United States regardless of their political leanings and trying to maintain the new regime would just be another case of neverending guerilla warfare with insurgent factions and we already know how that ends for the US after Iraq and Afghanistan, and from Vietnam we already know what happens when you send US troops into a god damn jungle.

>>2526688
The US army brutally raped little girls in Afghanistan shortly after mutilating and murdering their parents, I dunno where you got the impression that sexual assault is unique to the Venezuelan army. In this regard the US might be worse.

potentially notable. T&T is the only Caribbean country on-side with amerikka for this adventure.
U.S. Embassy issues warning to Americans in Trinidad and Tobago as tensions with Venezuela escalate
The U.S. Embassy in Trinidad and Tobago cautioned Americans on Saturday to stay away from U.S. government facilities in the Caribbean island nation.

It was an unusual warning that came as tensions grow between the United States and Venezuela over deadly U.S. strikes in Caribbean waters targeting suspected drug traffickers.

The embassy didn’t specify why it issued the warning, saying only that, “due to a heightened state of alert, please avoid and refrain from visiting all U.S. government facilities through the holiday weekend,” as it urged people to “be aware of your surroundings.” Monday is a holiday to celebrate Diwali, a Hindu festival of lights widely celebrated in Trinidad and Tobago, where 35% of its 1.4 million people identify as East Indian.

Venezuela is located just miles away from Trinidad, where people in one coastal community are mourning the disappearance of two local fishermen believed killed in a U.S. strike on Tuesday.

The alert is based on threats directed at American citizens in the Caribbean nation, with U.S. authorities saying “it could be linked” to ongoing tensions in the region, Trinidad and Tobago’s minister of homeland security, Roger Alexander, told the Associated Press. Local authorities declined to share details about the reported threats.

Authorities in Trinidad and Tobago have responded to the threats by implementing security measures to deal with any situations that may arise, Alexander said.

>>2526701
So when you think of "the region" in relation to Venezuela, you think of the United States of America 2000km away instead of the countries surrounding it?

so apparently venezuelan government kept people from publicly saying relatives had been among those killed by drumpf on the boat so as to not "anatgonize" the us
yeah okay i read it on msm but honestly anons? i feel like maduro is a cuck and will fold and let drumpf have his way with the country

>>2531633
he's playing a hard game anon, the lives of potentially 10's if not 100's of millions are at stake. i doubt he's thinking about who's le based and who's le cuck when facing these realities.

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US ‘Night Stalkers’ seen in Caribbean as fears of regime change rise in Venezuela
They call themselves the Night Stalkers and their unofficial motto hints at the group’s lethal nocturnal line of work: “Death Waits in the Dark.” “You can flee, but they will find you,” warns a rare book about the US army’s secretive 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (SOAR).

Since the elite helicopter unit’s creation in 1981, its daredevil pilots have taken part in some of the most dangerous missions in recent US military history: battling Islamic State during Operation Inherent Resolve in Iraq and Syria, and Somali warlords during Operation Gothic Serpent; and spiriting Navy Seals into Pakistan to kill the al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden as part of Operation Neptune Spear.

“I honestly think these people are the best rotor-wing pilots in the world … They are the Formula One drivers of aviation,” said Steven Hartov, the author of a book about the unit’s top secret missions, which nearly always happen under the cover of darkness.

In recent weeks the Night Stalkers have found themselves in a different part of the world, their egg-shaped Little Bird attack helicopters and Black Hawks spotted not in Idlib, Kandahar or Baghdad but 90 miles off the coast of Venezuela.

The group’s Caribbean training assignment – part of a major military deployment which has also seen B-52 bombers and F-35 fighter jets take to the region’s skies – comes as Donald Trump ratchets up the pressure on Venezuela’s authoritarian president, Nicolás Maduro, in what many believe is an attempt to force him from power.

Last week Trump publicly confirmed authorising covert CIA operations within Venezuela and boasted that Maduro “doesn’t want to fuck around with the United States”. Since September, at least 27 people have been killed in US missile strikes on alleged drug vessels in the Caribbean.

“If there was a ‘probability of US military action in Venezuela’ radar, I would say it’s definitely leaning past the 75% probability at this stage, if not more, because things have never escalated to this level,” said Eva Golinger, an American lawyer who advised Maduro’s predecessor, Hugo Chávez. “I’m waiting for the text in the middle of the night or the call that [there has been] … some type of US incursion inside Venezuela or selective bombing.”

Trump was “willing to go for it because he believes his power is limitless”, Golinger said. “Venezuela is in the eye … and it’s pretty terrifying.”

Robert Evan Ellis, a Latin America expert who advised Mike Pompeo, the secretary of state during Trump’s first term, said the Caribbean exercises were one strand of “a carefully calibrated military messaging” campaign to pile pressure on Maduro’s regime as part of a “controlled negotiation” designed to advance US interests.

Ellis saw three possible outcomes: the pressure could convince Venezuelan military bosses to topple Maduro “and solve the problem without the US”; Maduro’s regime could be “decapitated” by a major US operation, paving the way for a democratic transition; or Trump could strike “some sort of substantive deal” that ensures Maduro’s exit and gives US companies access to Venezuela’s abundant natural resources.

He thought such a deal might leave an undemocratic regime in place. It might also involve building a Trump hotel “with a great golf course” in Venezuela’s capital​.

“What is very difficult for me to imagine happening is that Maduro stays in power and this just goes on as it had before,” added Ellis​, who suspected Trump’s failure to remove Maduro during his first term meant he would be loth to fail again.

“I’m inclined to believe that … if we arrive at end of November [or] early December and there’s not a good deal or a resolution with the military taking this into their own hands … [then] the president very well could pull the trigger and do the operation,” Ellis said.

A Venezuela mission would not be the first in Latin America and the Caribbean conducted by the Night Stalkers, whose pilots specialise in infiltrating and exfiltrating special forces troops – called “customers” – from hostile places, nearly always at night.

In 1983, the group played a key role in Operation Urgent Fury, the invasion of Grenada that Ronald Reagan ordered to stop the former British colony becoming what he called “a major [Soviet-Cuban] military bastion”. In 1989, its pilots helped topple Panama’s dictator, Manuel Noriega, during George HW Bush’s Operation Just Cause. That campaign involved an audacious Night Stalker assault in which operatives rescued a US citizen from a Panama City prison while under heavy fire.

“They basically deliver [special forces] and extract them into impossible places … at night,” said Hartov. “When there’s a mission … that appears to be impossible because of the location or the [enemy’s] defences – whether it be extracting a high-value target or knocking out a particular dangerous target – the Night Stalkers are the only ones who can deliver.

“If you look at the record of how many [members] have died or been terribly injured in just training crashes, it’s probably higher than any other unit because they’re going fast and low in the dark.”

Many of the regiment’s hair-raising real-life operations have also ended in tragedy. In 1993, two Night Stalker helicopters were shot down with rocket launchers and five members killed during the Battle of Mogadishu, the two-day skirmish remembered in Ridley Scott’s film Black Hawk Down. Hundreds of civilians are also thought to have lost their lives.

“For the Night Stalkers, Mogadishu was a watershed moment … They emerged with some painful wounds,” said Hartov, who noted that the episode taught its members a hard lesson. “Despite their incredible access to hi-tech gear, weapons, support, communications, a man in a T-shirt and jeans with an AK-47 can bring down your helicopter.”

Andrés Izarra, a former Chávez minister now living in exile, said he foresaw a Somalia-style debacle if the US raided Caracas, the Venezuelan capital.

“The Venezuelan military [is] not very well prepared … but they have at least 30,000 praetorian guards,” he said of Maduro’s security apparatus, which includes the intelligence agencies DGCIM and SEBIN and police special forces.

Izarra reckoned Maduro also boasted 20,000 “hardcore” militia fighters armed with assault rifles and Igla portable surface-to-air missiles. “How are you going to get a Black Hawk to operate in Venezuela, where anyone can have an Igla and bring it down?” he wondered. “They’re going to turn Caracas into Mogadishu.”

The prospect of a US attack has spooked regional governments, with Brazil’s president, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, this week warning against outside meddling in a “continent free of weapons of mass destruction”.

“Foreign intervention can cause more damage than it seeks to prevent,” said Lula, whose military commanders recently sent 10,000 troops to Brazil’s northern border with Venezuela for exercises.

Earlier this month, Venezuela’s UN ambassador, Samuel Moncada, claimed Washington was “walking towards a catastrophe that may destroy the whole region for generations”. He said: “They’re coming for an invasion … to take away our country and turn us into a colony,” noting the presence of US helicopters near Trinidad.

Some doubt Trump will follow through, viewing his military manoeuvres as a bluff designed to intimidate Maduro or his military top brass.

Hartov was also sceptical Washington would launch a “massive” snatch-and-grab operation targeting Maduro or his ministers. “But they did so with Noriega – and the Night Stalkers were heavily involved in that. They did so with Saddam Hussein – the Night Stalkers were involved in that. They did so with Osama bin Laden.

“I would be nervous if I were [Maduro].”

>>2532485
>i doubt he's thinking about who's le based and who's le cuck when facing these realities.

He's sure as shit not winning any internet arguments THAT way!

>>2525405
>Does Trump love Guaido that much?
He apparently didn't like Guaido because Guaido was weak (according to John Bolton, Trump was calling him the "Beto O'Rourke of Venezuela." Ouch.)

>>2525623
>That uygha is a nobody nowadays.
Also this

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Say what you will about Maduro, but he looks like he can handle a machine gun. He's got the mustache and can carry himself around the military. He doesn't have Chavez's charisma and might be bad at his job, but he has a certain aura.

At any rate, Guaido had his chance and he BLEW IT

>>2510775
>decap,
>retaliation against empty barracks,
>fizzle

>>2531633
All of the so-called enemies of the American hegemon behave like a bunch of cucks with the exception of North Korea and (to some extent) China.

>>2532577
>not wanting your country to be utterly ravaged by the biggest army in the world = being a cuck

is it happening?

>>2533664
Nothing ever happens

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>>2533664
I'd be honestly surprised if this happens under Trump - both the orange man himself and his voter base are just overgrown bullies who love to act tough, but cowardly run away from any situation where there is a chance they may take even miniscule real harm. Remember how Trump acted like a pussy and betrayed the best of his followers on January 6th?

Chinese proletarian democracy stops buying national bourgeois Russian oil to signal to American imperialists that they will not help Russia who will help Venezuela so that Americans attack Venzuela and then Russia and China and Venezuela and Palestine and Iran enter an alliance of the based and end American imperialism for good.

>>2533664
chances are not low.

the USS Wichita is stopping by in Costa Rica for about a week. Probably heading towards Venezuela. Anyone with militar knowledge may share what's the possible purpose of such a ship?

>>2533832
many are saying this

>>2533887
that ship looks like it is about to fall apart

reminds me of that clip where US navy stans shared videos and pics on russian, chinese and even danish (!!) ships and passed them of as american

>>2532510
ENTER IT AND LEAVE IT FOR US

seriously invading venezuela would be the dumbest thing ever. have you seen that country's topography? it's a hellscape to invade with a military fiercley loyal to maduro and a mobilized population.

>>2533887
It's a corvette that can do a little bit of everything, it has guns, missiles, drones and an helicopter

>>2533907
They only need to bomb most AA, planes and other annoying military assets, maybe the electricity and some infradtructure, roll in a few cities and put the gusanos in charge tbh. Sure there'll be an insurgency but the military or the militias won't be that much of a problem unless they are ready to fight a nasty guerilla warfare from the get go and wire Caracas with so much booby traps and IEDs it will make ISIS look like choir boys

>>2533935
>won't be that much of a problem unless they are ready to fight a nasty guerilla warfare from the get go and wire Caracas with so much booby traps and IEDs it will make ISIS look like choir boy
<unless
Yea. I'm thinking it's going to be a very big problem.

>>2533664
yes
bombs have been dropped

<vid: Pres. Maduro highlights importance of defense for the success of the Workers’ Movement

Trump: A ground operation in Venezuela will happen soon.
U.S. President Donald Trump made a concerning statement during a live broadcast. Referring to the tension with Venezuela, which he blames for drug trafficking, Trump said, "There will soon be a ground operation in Venezuela."
US President Donald Trump stated in a live broadcast, "There will soon be a ground operation in Venezuela."

<TRUMP: THERE WILL SOON BE A GROUND OPERATION IN VENEZUELA

The tension between the US and Venezuela has reached its peak. US President Donald Trump, who accused Venezuela of drug trafficking, made a statement that alarmed the whole world. In a press conference, Trump gave a clear answer to journalists' question about "intervention in Venezuela." Trump stated, "There will soon be a ground operation in Venezuela."

<MADURO: "WE HAVE DEPLOYED RUSSIAN-MADE MISSILES"

Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro said that they have deployed thousands of Russian-made anti-aircraft missiles in the country's strategic air defense areas against the "possible operation of the US," which is increasing its military presence in the Caribbean. According to CNN's report, Maduro evaluated the military threats of the US, which continues to expand its operations in the Caribbean, during a speech at an event attended by military personnel.

Maduro stated that they have deployed Russian-made "Igla-S" type short-range anti-aircraft missiles in the country's strategic air defense areas, saying, "All military forces in the world know the power of the Igla-S, and Venezuela has more than 5,000 of them."
Maduro mentioned that the lightweight missiles, which can be carried by a single soldier, have been deployed "to the farthest mountain of the homeland, the farthest town, and the farthest city."

<TENSION BETWEEN THE US AND VENEZUELA

US President Donald Trump had previously issued an executive order instructing the military to be used more and effectively in the fight against Latin American drug cartels.

In this context, the US sent a naval force consisting of submarines and warships to the waters off Venezuela at the end of August, and US Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth stated that the US military was ready for operations, including regime change in Venezuela.
In response, Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro announced that he had mobilized 4.5 million militia forces in the country and was ready to repel any attack.
The US's continued targeting of some vessels off the coast of Venezuela on the grounds of "drug trafficking" has led to criticism from both the Venezuelan government and the international community, with claims that the attacks are "contrary to international law."

>>2533907
Military are not loyal to Maduro. They may be loyal to Venezuela, and their families. Most of the population hates Maduro if I understand correctly. He was a fucking bus driver jesus

>>2534011
>He was a fucking bus driver jesus
Saying the quiet part out loud there buddy.

>>2533901
Saddam also had aura. No doubt about that. Assad not so much.

>>2533823
This is a completely different Trump than pre-2024 Trump though. This one is much more bloodthirsty

>>2533954
This would be an international embarrassment which would alienate America on the global stage ….. only a idiot like Trump could phantom something like that

Slant reports of a U.S. air strike on Caracas?

>>2534011
>anarchist spewing NAFOid bs
never would have seen that coming

>>2534011
>He was a fucking bus driver jesus
wtf is this class supremacist bs? you hear this shit all the time from guanos.

>>2534011
Hello Agent Smith. How's the weather at Elgin?

>>2534044
Any other sources on this?

>>2534182
nothing. anon was doing fake news. well done he made me check

Any chances China or Russia have sent Maduro something juicy?

Reward and Retribution Is the New U.S. Policy for Latin America

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/10/reward-and-retribution-is-the-new-u-s-policy-for-latin-america.html

>During the press conference after the meeting with Zelensky, a reporter asked Trump how he would proceed with Venezuela, since Maduro had “offered everything.” Trump’s answer was telling: “Yeah, he has offered everything, you know why? Because he does not want to fuck around with the United States.”


>On the other hand, the U.S. has extended a $20 billion credit to Argentina’s Milei and is looking to extend another $20 billion. On top of that, the U.S. is flaunting buying Argentine bonds. It’s highly dubious that Argentina would actually be able to stabilize with this bailout or ever pay back that money, and it would be naive to believe that Bessent and his team think otherwise. So why this largesse?


>The simple answer is that the U.S. is trying to set an example with Argentina and Venezuela for the rest of the region. It seems that the U.S. is following a reward-and-retribution policy for Latin America as part of reinstating its “sphere of influence,” and that Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Chief of Staff Stephen Miller are behind it.


>According to The Wall Street Journal, the pressure campaign against Maduro is at the center of a “Venn diagram of interest” among Trump’s top lieutenants.” Meanwhile, Scott Bessent is at the forefront of Argentina’s bailout. Paul Krugman argues that it is to save his investor friends, and while this might be true, there’s a wider regional policy that emerges.


>James Bosworth, whose analysis I usually respect, though the narrative tends to be too Western-biased, drew up a parody map that holds a truth: the Trump administration is forcing every government in the region to take a side.

>>2533078
Yikes, reading comprehension.

>>2534019
>This is a completely different Trump than pre-2024 Trump though. This one is much more bloodthirsty
Makes one wonder how utterly dogshit non-NATOid secret services must be if they have nothing on this likely pedo that will sit him the fuck down.

>>2534154
What understanding does a bus driver have of politics? Anyone here would be a better president

>>2533954
It's just Trump's "clever" ruse. The US is going for a decap strike. It's not going to humiliate itself the way Russia does by letting Banderalensky run around in 5-star hotels.

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What's this Igla-S about? Will it really kirkinate many amerikkkans or is it just another tacky MIC nonsense with good marketing?

>>2534591
It's a short range, mostly infantry operated, anti-aircraft system. It's good at what it does, sure, but what it does is mostly engage targets such as helicopters or low flying aircraft.

It's gonna be so funny how all the zog posters of tiktok and twitter, lauded as based antiimperialists, are gonna cheer con the rape of Venezuela by the US.

>>2534316
>eginning his working life as a bus driver, Maduro rose to become a trade union leader before being elected to the National Assembly in 2000. He was appointed to a number of positions under President Hugo Chávez,[1] serving as President of the National Assembly from 2005 to 2006, as Minister of Foreign Affairs from 2006 to 2012 and as the vice president from 2012 to 2013 under Chávez.

are you retarded? He had plenty of experience in politics before becoming president? He didn't simply magically go from bus driver to president.

>>2534632
>zog posters of tiktok and twitter
>lauded as based antiimperialists
you seem to live in an alternate reality

Trump deploys aircraft carrier strike group to South America amid Venezuela tensions
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth deployed a U.S. nuclear-powered aircraft carrier and its complement of guided missile destroyers to the South American coast Friday, according to his top spokesperson.

Sean Parnell, who is Hegseth's assistant defense secretary for public affairs, announced that the USS Gerald R. Ford, its on-board warplanes, and the other ships in its strike group are deploying to "dismantle Transnational Criminal Organizations … and counter narco-terrorism" in the region.

In recent months, President Donald Trump's administration has destroyed at least 10 suspected drug boats off the coasts of Venezuela and Colombia. The deployment of a carrier strike group represents a significant escalation in that campaign and could foreshadow the beginning of airstrikes against targets in Venezuela. U.S. officials have accused Venezuela's leadership and President Nicolas Maduro of running drug cartels and facilitating mass migration towards the U.S. southern border.

The Ford and its accompanying destroyers — the USS Winston Churchill, the USS Bainbridge, and the USS Mahan — have spent the past few weeks in the Mediterranean Sea, according to the U.S. Naval Institute's fleet tracker. They will join the eight Navy ships, thousands of Marines, special operations forces, and the land-based fighter jets already deployed to the Caribbean.

>>2534280
Why would non-NATOid secret services want to "sit him the fuck down"? Almost everything he does is retarded and hurts american hegemony.

>>2440896
>>2440562

I think something will happen, but given the small number of troops mentioned above it won't be a full-scale invasion.

My money is that Trump will invade Venezuela with a few thousand US soldiers, in the hopes it will trigger a coup (if said coup has not already been organised) or a mass uprising.

As others have pointed out the army is very loyal to Maduro, so that would probably fail, but the country is sadly quite corrupt to so its possible it won't.

Best case scenario: Trump invades without an understanding of how 7k is too small to defeat Venezuela and then a bunch of Navy Seals are BTFO

>>2535228
>My money is that Trump will invade Venezuela with a few thousand US soldiers, in the hopes it will trigger a coup (if said coup has not already been organised) or a mass uprising.
Worked so well for Wagner Group, I look forward to it.

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>>2535228
>Best case scenario: Trump invades without an understanding of how 7k is too small to defeat Venezuela and then a bunch of Navy Seals are BTFO
I live in hope.

>>2440562
Yep, just a bunch of wishcasting about slaughtering US troops, like the wishcasting about downing the B-2s striking the Iranian nuclear sites. They're not sending an invading force lmao. They're just gonna pop Maduro and hope something comes of it. If Venezuela retaliates at all, it will be after the Iranian model of 'strategic restraint' sans the evacuated buildings and empty barracks because there probably aren't any in reach.

>>2510775
>decap,
>retaliation against empty barracks (none in reach),
>fizzle

>You heard it here first.

>>2533823
what possible damage can venezuela inflict


>>2535401
What are the 7k soldiers sent right off the Venezuelan cost for then?

>>2535416
Sadly, nothing really unless Russia and China want some revenge arming and do so asymmetrically. But they're pretty passive when it comes to grudge matches.

ameriKKKans stand no chance

>>2535417
Because Trump and those around him like Hegseth have adolescent brains that dabble in cringey trickery, like what happened when he gloated about how he and Israel tricked the Iranians into thinking there was sharp disagreement between him and Israel.
>no way they'd drag all those troops there for a trick
Hegseth dragged in generals from abroad to fat shame them and give a $2 motivational speech.

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OK time to call it, is Maduro gonna go out like Allende or like Asad?


>>2534316
>a lowly prole shouldn't get involved in politics, this is a job for higher thought proscesses.
get that spook out, a trashman has more right to be the president than every liberal groomed into politics together.

>>2535442
He's gonna go like JFK, assassinated by a comrade for being anti communist

>>2535442
More like Ho Chi Minh or Pol Pot.

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>>2535442
More like Noriega, probably.

>>2534591
<Make me Technical, but all military-like and green and shit and lots of wheels…
<And it has to be able to park in my McMansion garage
>One armored golf-cart coming right away, sir!
That vehicle looks so goofy lel

What are the main leftist grudges against Maduro that explain the blasé attitude toward his fate? I see it when scroooooolling Reddit too.

>>2535453
>More like Ho Chi Minh or Pol Pot.
One of them died in his home, beloved by the people after ushering revolution and some of the greatest anti-imperialist victories the world has ever seen, the other died an anti-communist pawn of the monarchy, after an hero'ing being the only thing in life he didn't fail at his corpse, mangled from an incompetent embalming, burned on a pile of trash.

>>2535469
stop talking shit about Uncle Ho.

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>>2535469
>One of them died in his home, beloved by the people after ushering revolution and some of the greatest anti-imperialist victories the world has ever seen
Based Pol Pot.

>>2535471
read the post again

>>2535429
Reads like a poor example. The point, if there was one, with Iran was to misdirect away from US intentions to attack. That isnt happening here

>>2535467
I mean he's a socdem and socdems will never push the envelope hard enough to make themselves obsolete. They let the problems fester and keep themselves and their buddies essential.

My hope is that PSUV recognizes the threat to their person and institution coming form the USA and stop trying to make nice with he US.

>>2535480
The misdirection is in the form of attack. We'll see, I guess. I'm betting we'll see Maduro decapped before thousands of Americans slaughtered.

>>2535479
re read, and it still shits on Uncle ho, even makes conspiracy that he killed himself and works with the monarcy.

>>2535484
trvke, maduro should have started a trial and execution of anyone involved with the US instead of trying acting nice.

>>2535479
>read the post again
they're obviously shitposting, anon. No man is this retarded.

>>2535494
he's talking about pol pot

>>2535467
he is even more retarded than chavez

>>2535469
Not a pro-Pol Pot Maoist here, but im curious anyway about what pro-Pol Potists have to say about him.

I know that one video deboonking everything anti-DK but is there any pro-Pol Pot lit out there?


>>2535515
Maduro said Russia gave them some missiles. Maybe? Not that it matters though. Both China can't do anything about it, Russia won't.

>>2535519
nothingburger unless they are nuclear missiles
fuck cucktin
why is the russian commie party so useless and dont remove that soy riddled unc already

>>2535525
Eurasianist cucks are too busy fighting the culture war on the side of their bourgeoisie, simple as

>>2535467
>>2535484
"socdem" doesnt really capture the particularities of chavism or boliviaranism. but in either case, maduro has been moving away from any kind of socialism for years now. he has focused more on building alliances with the religious & broader nationalists, while sidelining and in some cases repressing former allies among communists and socialists the latter is disputed due to claims that the communists in question were in fact glow or something, idk the details nor do i have an opinion and hard to research not knowing spanish

goes without saying but full support to venezuela in their resistance to the US regardless of the particularities of their politics

>>2535469
>mangled from an incompetent embalming, burned on a pile of trash.
he was cremated and the pyre is a makeshift buddhist rite by his (second) wife and daughter

>What interests us particularly here is the rushed and unceremonious disposal of the body of the perpetrator, on a makeshift pyre and without any ritual accompaniment. This was the funeral of a beaten enemy whose last remaining supporters kept, and still keep, very quiet. This final failure is clearly legible in the contrast between the modest tomb of the “Brother Number One” and that of his nemesis, Ta Mok (who died in 2006).

>For the latter now rests in a sumptuous tomb, built within the walls of a Buddhist monastery in the village of Srah Chhuk, halfway up the slope of the forest plateau. Following his wishes, he was not cremated, perhaps because of his Chinese lineage, as one of his followers suggests. The decoration on the lintels is based on Angkorian motifs, and a statue of an elephant, a symbol of strength, is prominently placed on the dome of his concrete monument.

>Just as the humble appearance of Pol Pot’s tomb reflects his ultimate fate within his own movement, so the various different ways in which the dead leader was treated can only be understood in the light of the multiple inflections of status <…> former enemy position, now a government stronghold, has been made into a deliberately low‐key tourist site, before discussing the quiet homage paid by the “children and grandchildren” (loyal supporters) of Pol Pot, who now form a minority within their own movement, and finally the ritual practices of the area’s new inhabitants, who have come from around Cambodia, attracted by freshly cleared land and the prospect of creating small businesses.


<Anne Yvonne Guillou. The ”Master of the Land”: cult activities around Pol Pot’s tomb. Journal of Genocide Research, 2018, The Death of the Perpetrator: Interdisciplinary refelctions on the dead body of mass criminals, 20 (2), pp.275-289.

>>2535513
Malcolm Caldwell. I read that Philip Short (BBC guy, no love for KR) said that Vietnamese commandos killed him. i found that interesting, idk the logic though.
Sorry for shitting up thread with KR shit.

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>>2535467
i don't care that maduro isn't perfect. i want burger reich troops who volunteer to destroy countries that didn't attack them to DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE

Venezuela is fucked up because of BURGER SANCTIONS and BURGER MEDDLING not MUH BUS DRIVER BAD

>>2535555
Fives of truth

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>>2535513
>is there any pro-Pol Pot lit out there?
some of it exists, excluding self-reports such as economics publications by khieu samphan or state magazines published by KR inside democratic kampuchea for domestic consumption
Samir Amin, The Struggle for National Independence and Socialism in Kampuchea 1986
Yang Mu and Others for Beijing Review, Reports from the Jungle of Kampuchea 1987
Vokler Grabowsky, Theses on the Kampuchean Revolution, 1975-78 1981

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The U.S. Is Preparing for War in Venezuela
s a naval aviator, Alvin Holsey trained to conduct missions that required precise targeting. For years, his job was to fly helicopters over potential targets and, using radar and other detectors, assess whether they posed a threat to the United States; if so, he had to determine whether to launch an attack.

On September 2, Holsey, now an admiral leading the U.S. military’s southern command, was put in charge of a mission unlike any that has come before: The United States was, without any warning or attempt at interdiction, striking suspected drug boats in the Caribbean Sea. Early into the mission, Defense officials told us, he privately raised concerns to Pentagon leadership about the operations, which have now struck at least 10 suspected drug-trafficking vessels that the U.S. redefined as “terrorist,” killing 43 people.

Holsey’s complaints led to a tense meeting with Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, officials said, after which the 37-year Navy veteran announced that he planned to leave his post next month, less than a year into what was supposed to be a three-year tenure. (Like other officials we spoke with for this story, they requested anonymity because they are not authorized to speak publicly. The Pentagon did not respond to requests for comment on Holsey’s departure.)

Since then, the strikes have escalated even as the legal questions around them have yet to be answered. There was another strike overnight, this one killing six, according to Hegseth. And today, the Pentagon announced that the USS Gerald R. Ford aircraft-carrier strike group, a multi-ship force staffed by as many as 5,000 troops, would travel from the Mediterranean to the Caribbean. The intent, the Pentagon said, is to “bolster U.S. capacity to detect, monitor, and disrupt illicit actors.” The ships, which are currently on a port visit in Croatia, will take just over a week; their movement was the latest indication that what began as a campaign to pick off alleged drug runners as they ply the seas in small fishing vessels is evolving into something far larger.

The U.S. hasn’t sent this many ships to the Caribbean since the Cuban missile crisis. There are already roughly 6,500 Marines and sailors in the region, operating from eight Navy vessels, as well as 3,500 troops nearby. Once the Ford arrives, the U.S. will have roughly as many ships in the Caribbean as it used to defend Israel from Iranian missile strikes this summer. The carrier strike group also provides far more firepower than is necessary for the occasional attack on narco-trafficking targets. But the ships could be ideal for launching a steady stream of air strikes inside Venezuela.

“The only thing you could use the carrier for is attacking targets ashore, because they are not going to be as effective at targeting small boats at sea,” Bryan Clark, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and retired Navy officer, told us. “If you are striking inside Venezuela, the carrier is an efficient way to do it due to the lack of basing in the region.”

As U.S.-military assets in the region have accumulated, the administration’s language about deposing Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro has grown more threatening. A person close to the White House told Semafor this week that the administration would cooperate with Congress on its plans for military action only when “Maduro’s corpse is in U.S. custody.”

For about two months, the flotilla of American warships in the Caribbean has kept Venezuelans in suspense. The White House calls it a “counter-narcotic” mission, but Latin American analysts see it as a regime-change operation. Some Trump-administration officials hope that the threat of attacks on Venezuelan soil, coupled with the drumbeat of strikes at sea, will be sufficient to force Maduro to flee, making a direct campaign to remove him unnecessary. “Sending a message may be enough,” a senior administration official told us. “The pressure that is going to be applied will be immense.”

The antidrug mission has been “a pressure campaign to see if the regime will crack,” Elliott Abrams, who served as special representative for Venezuela during the first Trump administration, told us. Among the aims of the strikes is to prompt military defections within the regime, which could in turn lead to its demise. “The idea is that officials will say to themselves, Maduro will fall, but I don’t have to fall with him,” Abrams said. During other Venezuelan political crises—including in 2014 and 2019—there have been prominent defections. But this time, the regime has held together—so far, at least.

None of the strikes has landed in Venezuelan territory, either at sea or on land. All have been in international waters. Maduro, an autocrat who stole last year’s election, has written letters to “His Excellency” Trump, pleading for de-escalation. He’s laid peace offerings in the form of oil and riches at the White House’s doorstep. But the one thing Maduro seems unwilling to do is relinquish power, and it doesn’t look like anyone in his government will make him. And so earlier this month, the Trump administration told its last diplomat in Venezuela to pack his bags.

Maduro is not the only target of Trump’s ire in the region. The president of Colombia, Gustavo Petro, started complaining this month about the Caribbean strikes, claiming that they had taken the life of an innocent fisherman. Trump accused Petro on Sunday of being a “drug leader”—the same accusation he’s made against Maduro. On Tuesday, the American military struck a boat close to Colombia’s Pacific Coast. Petro, far from seeking a de-escalation, went on Univision to invoke Freud and ruminate about genitalia and machismo. At the end of the interview, he called for Trump to be ousted.

Yesterday, Trump seemed particularly resolved. “There will be land action in Venezuela soon,” he said after two American bombers flew near Venezuela’s coast but stayed over international waters. Whatever he opts to do, Trump isn’t planning to consult Congress before acting. “I’m not going to necessarily ask for a declaration of war,” he said. “I think we’re just going to kill people that are bringing drugs into our country. Okay? We’re going to kill them. You know, they’re going to be, like, dead.”

Although the U.S. has called those who have been killed in its air strikes “combatants,” the administration has not provided any evidence to either Congress or the public of the threat they posed to the U.S. When two people survived a strike last week, the United States chose not to hold them, which would have led to a court hearing at which a judge might have ordered the administration to provide legal justification for the strikes. Instead, the U.S. released them to their home country. Hegseth called the decision “standard” practice in warfare.

The unending news cycles since the 2016 presidential campaign have obscured many of its particulars, but actual issues were debated in that race. Trump’s pledge to end U.S. involvement in foreign conflicts set him apart, not just from Democrats but also from other Republican contenders. Night after night at his rallies, Trump thundered against American involvement in the “forever wars” of Afghanistan and Iraq, and pledged that, if he were elected, he would not put U.S. troops in harm’s way.

The escalation of pressure on Venezuela coincides with the ascension of Marco Rubio within the Trump administration. Early on, isolationists such as Vice President J. D. Vance held more sway with the president, but the secretary of state has kept accumulating jobs and power within Trump’s orbit. Rubio has long loathed the Venezuelan regime, and while still in the Senate, he began quietly undercutting American economic ties to the nation and the administration’s own diplomatic efforts. But he did not make the case to Trump with arguments about democracy or human rights, causes that the president has rarely embraced. Instead, he made it about drugs.

That pitch dovetailed with the hawkish immigration plans being embraced by the powerful White House aide Stephen Miller. Rubio’s approach worked. The administration has cited vague Article II powers as legal justification for the strikes, and Rubio has made the case that the attacks were legal because Maduro was no longer considered a head of state, but rather the head of a drug-running terror operation.

“These cartels are the al-Qaeda of the Western Hemisphere, using violence, murder and terrorism to impose their will, threaten our national security and poison our people,” Hegseth wrote on social media. “The United States military will treat these organizations like the terrorists they are—they will be hunted, and killed, just like al-Qaeda.”

All of the military experts we consulted agree that the United States doesn’t appear to be preparing for a boots-on-the-ground invasion like the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. More likely, they said, the administration is gearing up for a “push the button, watch things explode” operation, like the strikes against nuclear facilities in Iran in June. Among the potential targets being considered is infrastructure used by suspected narcotics traffickers, officials familiar with the administration’s thinking told us.

But such a campaign would not be without peril for the troops carrying it out. Since the strikes began, Venezuela also has already flown F-16s over American destroyers operating in the region. During any attack in Venezuelan air space, U.S. pilots would likely come up against Maduro’s air defenses. Analysts differ over how much of Venezuela’s air defense is fully functional and maintained, but they are in consensus that its military has a network of anti-aircraft batteries, multiple air-defense units armed with cannons, and numerous portable air-defense systems. The military also has a sophisticated long-range-missile system capable of shooting down aircraft and ballistic missiles, according to Geoff Ramsey, a Venezuela expert at the Atlantic Council, a Washington-based think tank.

Ramsey warned that even if the strikes lead to defections and eventually the fall of the regime, multiple pro-government armed groups in the country could challenge a new government and contribute to a bloody outcome that would look something like Libya after the 2011 fall of Muammar Qaddafi.

“I think ultimately, what you need is a way to channel the enormous pressure that Maduro is under towards a peaceful, democratic outcome,” Ramsey told us. “And I think you can get there without firing Tomahawk missiles into the country.”

During the Arab Spring, Trump had initially said that he supported U.S. and NATO intervention in Libya. But as instability followed, he shifted his position. During the 2016 presidential campaign, Trump said that Libya would have been better off if Qaddafi had stayed in power.

“I was never for strong intervention,” Trump said that year. “It’s a total mess.”

Now he seems to have rediscovered his interventionism.

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>>2535572

> Once the Ford arrives, the U.S. will have roughly as many ships in the Caribbean as it used to defend Israel from Iranian missile strikes this summer. […] the ships could be ideal for launching a steady stream of air strikes inside Venezuela.


Oh shit. It's going down.

>>2535555
>i want burger reich troops who volunteer to destroy countries that didn't attack them to DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE

>>2534192
>Any chances China or Russia have sent Maduro something juicy?
No lol. Putin recently signed some kind of strategic deal with Maduro, which is always a bad sign because he did that in the months leading up to the Iran attack. It gets him his "in" to spread more of the Restraint Gospel (tm) that works so well against the West.

Would be good if Petro and Lula met, came up with something and tried to rally other American countries. Burger proles need to get ready for massive anti war protests as well, same for euroids like me.

>>2535580
Mr. Maduro, I don't think the two russian batteries Chavez bought are going to last…

>>2535653
>Burger proles need to get ready for massive anti war protests as well
BACO (burgers always cuck out)

>>2535653
>non-NATOids ever collaborating on anything instead of letting the hegemon sequence its aggression and attack them one by one
That'd be the day!

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>>2535671
Less kissing the homies more fucking the gringos!!

Time for a people's revolutionary war

>>2535408
decap,
speech at the UN,
audiovisual teases on Twitter,
retaliation against empty barracks (none in reach),
missiles-in-the-night-sky fireworks pictures posted on Twitter (targets don't matter),
fizzle

You heard it here first.

>aircraft carrier to be used against "narco trafficing"
I guess drumpf is gloves off after not getting the peace price.

>>2535732
>gloves off
he already mogs cucktin and his SMO hasnt even started lol

>>2535744
It's gonna look pretty pathetic when Trump bumps off Maduro and Putin still lets Zelensky go around propagandizing against Russia.

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Bros, no need to lose hope. I have received word that the Militaires Sans Frontières has entered Venezuela and are currently conducting stealth operations to prepare for conflict with the cia's tech bro financed ai drones.

>>2535467
Without fear of being wrong, I'd say that he's the most hated alive person in latin america rn (being a regionally recognizable figure). Not only because of the propaganda against him, but also because he's dumb, corrupt, and incapable of resisting the onslaught of imperialism.
This was only relevant to politically aware people until the migration crisis began.

>>2535653
lula is having meetings with Trump rescently btw.
hes also letting US troops do trainings in brazilian regions btw.
expecting something out of a limp wrist like Lula is expect ruin.
petro did more in 1 turn than him and his party did in 5.

>>2535810
>until the migration crisis
>>2535555
>BURGER SANCTIONS and BURGER MEDDLING not MUH BUS DRIVER BAD

>>2535814
Yeah there's a Lula-Trump meeting on the 26th of October
Was there any more within the last few months?

>>2535653
Unfortunately most Americans are dumb as fuck, they can't even find Venezuela on a map, all they know about Vuvuzela is that it's commie and that's bad.
Also unless Trump goes into a full land war like Iraq, Americans won't feel the impact of a conflict with Venezuela at all. It'll just be a background thing. Were there any major protests against the attacks in Syria or Libya? I don't think so.

The anti imperialist movement doesn't need corrupt useless tinpot dictatorships like Maduro. All you need is competent technocrats who develop the economy in preparation for the transition of social relations. Anything else is dogmatic retardation. Lula is a better anti imperialist simply because he is putting Brazil on the path to becoming a fully industrialized country.

Imagine if someone like Maduro was in charge of Brazil and trashed the economy and made it dependent on a single resource. Would Brazil be in a better position to resist imperialism than if does today? Obviously not.

The same applies to the clowns running Iran and Cuba. Just become competent and technologically developed while maintaining a degree of strategic autonomy. The pieces will fall in due time.

>>2535878
Venezuela and especially Cuba are victims of geography and history not so much political decisions. Agree with Iran though, but they arent even demsucc

Is it safe to assume Trump's Venezuela SMO will start once that aircraft carrier arrives?

>>2535585
i'm literally a burger
i'm tired of the 7% of our country that puts on green and puts in their shift at the orphanmaker factory to pretend they're protecting me. they're making millions of people hate me. they need to die. they are rabid dogs.

>>2535534
Source? I recall reading something along these lines elsewhere, but specific events to refer are a better gauge to evaluate the south american sockdems

>>2535310
You guys should get ready for when that happens and the admin looses their shit

>>2535814
>hes also letting US troops do trainings in brazilian regions btw.
grim

Is there anything realistically we can do from the outside to help Maduro?

>>2536170
Yes but I cant tell you without fedposting.


>>2535814
I never liked Brazilians.

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>>2536193
Bruh chill
We don't even know how it will go yet

>>2536193
imagine not trvsting the plan
LAW (lvla always wins)

Regime Change By Decapitation: The US Is On Venezuela Again | Stas Krapivnik

>>2536206
what the fuck is PT going to do when he dies? Run Haddad again?

>>2536204
That's not a favela, that's a quebrada (eerily similar to mine).
>>2536272
He's grooming Boulos. Yes, Boulos, Haddad, Alckmin… Brazil is a crypto-arab country.

>>2536288
It’s better than being crypto Italian
>in4 what’s the difference?

>>2536288
what's a quebrada

I cant believe America is going to war with vuvuzelas. I mean I thought they were annoying during the South African world cup but I think this is a bit of an overreaction

>>2536326
quebrada down on my dick, lmao gottem.

>>2536327
A simpler time. A easier time. :(

>>2536272
Brasil has a historic of parties being propped up by a single leader that dies or twist itself like a pretzel, when Lula dies PT will either split or become even more rightist, it's already the Democrat party on brazil so it's gonna follow that way.

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How do people become this comfortable with lying? I really don't understand it

>>2536327
>I cant believe America is going to war with vuvuzelas.
it was kind of obvious that the US would sooner or later start some shit in latam

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>>2536350
I love how every rightoid media personality including those in the government are just this but unironically

EMPTY BARRACKS

>>2536327
>I cant believe America is going to war with vuvuzelas.

You wouldn't be surprised if you learned theory (James Cameron's Avatar)

>>2536350
>How do people become this comfortable with lying? I really don't understand it

because nobody holds them up against a wall and fires two rounds into their useless lying brain stem for being reactionary pieces of shit whose only purpose in life is to defend the narratives of the powerful from the scrutiny of everyone else

>>2535989
>Is it safe to assume Trump's Venezuela SMO will start once that aircraft carrier arrives?
Dunno, but Trump is unlikely to be a restraint cuck like Putin and end up in some WWI trench war (with fiber-optic drone characteristics). Plus, no country will provide tangible assistance to Ven, because also unlike Putin, Trump won't hesitate to consider those countries co-belligerents, especially if they give Ven missiles that kill American citizens on American soil.

>>2536269
>Regime Change By Decapitation
Correct. Not guaranteed to get the government the US wants, but that's the gamble: decapitation strikes or some other form of low-risk assassination.
>Venezuela will be a second Vietnam
Incorrect. Trump isn't going to do anything more than decapitation and strat bombing. At worst it will be a clownshow that accomplishes nothing.

>>2536639
Yeah I think even Trump is smart enough to know that actually getting stuck in to any degree will basically cede the Asia theater to China. That's why they did what they did in Iran, bombing run and 30 missiles then ceasefire

>>2536639
You don't have to come here to repeat yourself every day, you know.

>>2536808
Repeat your meds.

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>>2535869
>Unfortunately most Americans are dumb as fuck, they can't even find Venezuela on a map
I have brainlet strategies for remembering countries on the map. For instance, I remember that it goes Guyana and then Suriname instead of vice versa by thinking of "surname," last name.

>>2536639
>Trump isn't going to
thats how it always works. pentagon lies to commander in chief that war will be "over by christmas" and then when it isn't tells them how bad it will be for midterms if they "abandon our boys". only time it didn't work was kennedy

Trump Insider Claims Admin Will Coordinate With Congress On Venezuela 'When Maduro's Corpse Is In U.S. Custody': Report
A person close to the White House said the Trump administration is set to continue escalating pressure against the Venezuelan regime, and it will only coordinate its actions with Congress "when (authoritarian President Nicolas) Maduro's corpse is in U.S. custody."

The person made the claim while discussing with Semafor criticism against the legal justifications for the administration's strikes off Venezuela and Colombia.

The outlet noted that so far the White House has held six classified briefings for lawmakers about the pressure campaign. Most Republicans remain supportive of the campaign, with some even taunting the Maduro regime and claiming its end is near. Others, however, are voicing doubts.

Republican Sen. Todd Young said on Thursday he is seeking to "learn more" about the campaign, telling Axios that "Congress isn't hearing enough — in any form, including a public forum." He went on to say that lawmakers need to be involved in the discussion of legal ramifications of the strikes.

"I think Congress needs to go further. Rather than just asserting our ability to authorize military force — which we certainly need to do — we also need to officially bring to close these conflicts and make clear that we have constitutional prerogatives that need to be consistently asserted," Young added.

The lawmaker has also requested a meeting with Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to discuss the campaign, and asked the Upper House's Foreign Relations Committee to hold oversight hearings.

Moreover, Sen. Rand Paul joined a bill introduced by Democratic Sen. Tim Kaine, which will force a vote to stop Trump from unilaterally declaring war on the South American country.

Paul addressed the move in a social media publication, claiming "it's imperative that we make it clear that war powers reside with Congress, not the president."

Trump seemingly intends to move ahead with the campaign despite the reservations. "I don't think we're necessarily going to ask for a declaration of war, I think we're just gonna kill people that are bringing drugs into our country. We're going to kill them. They're going to be, like dead," he said on Thursday, claiming the administration intends to take on cartels operating in the country and led by regime members.

Maduro, on his end, said his regime has "more than 5,000" Russian-made Igla-S surface-to-air missiles positioned across the country, warning that they stand ready to defend the country should the U.S. conduct strikes in its territory.

"Any military force in the world knows the power of the Igla-S," Maduro said during a televised address. "Venezuela has nothing less than 5,000 of these at key air defense posts to guarantee the peace, stability and tranquility of our people." He described the Igla-S as "one of the most powerful weapons that exist," adding that the nation's air defense operators were fully trained to use them "from the last mountain to the last city."

<The Imperialist Offensive is Nothing New for the Bolivarian Revolution’: A Conversation with Ana Maldonado
>A Chavista organizer examines the US militarization of the Caribbean and the Bolivarian Revolution’s enduring resistance to imperial aggression.

>In recent months, Washington has stepped up its military presence in the Caribbean, sending warships, aircraft, and even a nuclear submarine to waters near Venezuela amid extrajudicial attacks on fishing vessels. For many, this new phase of aggression is all too familiar — part of a decades-long campaign of hybrid warfare designed to undermine Venezuela’s sovereignty.


>In this context, Cira Pascual Marquina spoke with Ana Maldonado, a sociologist, international relations coordinator for the Francisco de Miranda Front—a national Chavista movement—and member of the Venezuelan chapter of ALBA Movements. In this interview, Maldonado offers her perspective on how Venezuelans are experiencing the latest imperialist escalation, reflects on the country’s long resistance to hybrid war, and situates the current threat within the broader struggle for sovereignty in Latin America and the Caribbean.


https://venezuelanalysis.com/interviews/the-imperialist-offensive-is-nothing-new-for-the-bolivarian-revolution-a-conversation-with-ana-maldonado/

<Venezuela Denounces US-Backed Military Drills by Trinidad and Tobago as Hostile Provocation

>The information was released in a statement by Venezuelan Vice President Delcy Rodríguez. In the statement, Venezuela reported it captured a mercenary group with direct information from the US intelligence agency, the CIA, and has determined that a false flag attack is being prepared from waters bordering Trinidad and Tobago or from Trinidadian or Venezuelan territory itself. It warned this could lead to a full-blown military confrontation against Venezuela.

>“We are not intimidated by military exercises or war cries. The Bolivarian National Armed Force (FANB) will remain alert and mobilized in perfect Popular-Military-Police unity in the face of this extremely serious provocation. Our Republic, heir to Bolívar and Chávez, will always defend its sovereignty, its territorial integrity, and its right to live in peace against foreign enemies and their vassals,” the statement read.

https://orinocotribune.com/venezuela-denounces-us-backed-military-drills-by-trinidad-and-tobago-as-hostile-provocation/

<Venezuela Bolsters Coastal Defense with 700+ Strategic Points

>In a decisive move to safeguard national sovereignty, the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela has activated a massive network of over 700 coastal defense points as part of its ongoing “Coastal Independence 200” military exercise.

>President Nicolás Maduro announced the deployment, framing it as a necessary response to persistent external threats, primarily from the United States, aimed at destabilizing the nation’s hard-won peace and the Bolivarian project.


>The strategic deployment, which began on Thursday, October 23, establishes 73 central points of operation for the National Bolivarian Armed Forces (FANB), with each point branching out into approximately ten more.


>This creates a robust defensive web of up to 1,000 locations along the coastline, designed to protect the nation from what authorities describe as ongoing imperialist aggression.

https://www.telesurenglish.net/venezuela-bolsters-coastal-defense-with-700-strategic-points/

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>>2538494
>In the statement, Venezuela reported it captured a mercenary group with direct information from the US intelligence agency, the CIA, and has determined that a false flag attack is being prepared from waters bordering Trinidad and Tobago or from Trinidadian or Venezuelan territory itself.

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>>2514857
>A common opinion on Reddit is that all this bluster is about deterring Venezuela from attacking Guyana and that US doesn't care about Venezuelas oil because it's high sulfur. What's your opinion on this?

>>2538788
Even if they don't directly want to use the oil they can benefit from taking off the market, either way they don't want that oil to be reinvested in Venezuela

>>2536485
Based. Agreed.
I'll give you some guns and we'll wack em together.

Maduro status?

2 b-1 bombers

>>2539251
>Maduro status?
They likely know where he is and what weapon to use but are seeing whether they can cause a "totally organic" coup first.

Venezuela | Pres. Maduro explains the determining role of the working class and its power
Is he trying to accelerate the revolution?


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