>>2445997No this was the “modern monetary theory” cope of American Keynesians. America is already having to resort to extortion to extract wealth from its financial colonies (everyone), so that Trump can blow it trying to win the next election and deploy the military internally.
Most of the stock/bond market is basically in shock and don’t think he will actually blow up the global economy. Which I think is as pure a cope as those who didn’t believe Hitler was going to start a world war.
The only reason things haven’t collapsed already is that the American government spent generations training European etc elites into subservience.
>>2445929So … nothing? You can't even write one achievement after 3.5 years?
I'll give you one. The invaders control less land than they did in 2022.
Is going backwards an achievement?
>>2445944Ukraine uses defence in depth. They allow Russia to advance continuously into no man's land and drones them as they do so. The invading army barely see any combat action because the Ukrainians are far enough back to avoid shelling. Russian soldiers confirm this themselves online on VK and TG.
What's the evidence that Ukraine's logistics are breaking down in 2025 as opposed to any other year when Ukraine was about to collapse after losing X irrelevant town?
>>2445948Accurate.
>>2446143holy trvthnvke
ziggers destroyed by fax and logic
ukraine is nowhere close to losing
cucktin has even agreed to security guarantees for ukraine he knows he's not in a position to take the country
>>2446143>You can't even write one achievement after 3.5 years?Ukraine isn't in NATO and they've not taken back the DPR or LPR by force, with Ukraine's allies now and then suggesting at least those regions plus Crimea ought to be surrendered.
Nice attempt to hyperfixate on "but whatabout Russia's goals hmm?" when this conflict entirely revolves around Ukraine's ambitions for A. being a bastion for fascism for all of Europe's far-right, B. integrating with the imperialist bloc and C. trying to impose Ukrainian nationalism against people that are not Ukrainian but happen to be caught within in the 1991 borders that Ukraine got by happenstance. Russia doesn't become the instigator because they eventually intervened directly.
Ukraine are paying the price for goals A , B and C and it seems like they're going to achieve none of them, except maybe A in some underground way. Probably in Canada.
>>2446163>Ukraine isn't in NATO and they've not taken back the DPR or LPR by force, with Ukraine's allies now and then suggesting at least those regions plus Crimea ought to be surrendered.Well good. I'm glad you're being realistic. The great Russian achievement appears to be that Ukraine is territorially in a similar position to 2022 and these 3.5 years haven't hindered the Ukrainian military nor her people's resolve.
Maybe these behind the scenes conversations with Ukraine's "allies" you refer to will add up to something. But until they do, Russia's military has no ability to force Ukraine to concede.
Nazi A (NATO+) and Nazi B (their battered broxy, aka The Borderlands) do not really, fundamentally align either. If you cannot see how this inevitably blows up (you see the end is already apparent in the beginning, real advanced marxist scrying), I cannot help you. The ukraine would (presumably, this is my assumption, I know) like to continue existing. The imperialist masters would like to use their battering ram for all it's worth, until it's in pieces. Upon which, of course, you know this script, it will be discarded. Forgotten. Real tragic, shame what happened to them. Oh well, onto the next victim. To the last…
Final victory, Endsieg, as the OGs called it.
>>2446172>fundamental reassessment>fundamentalFundamental sounds scary. This is not your regular (structural) readjustment. There is something more fundamental that need correction.
Massacre the old, the poor and the huddled masses.
>>2446174Banger. One note, they could have gone harder. I think that is a bit moderate.
But, ya know, captain hindsight
>>2446192>>2446197Why are you crying? The initial conversation was about whether Russia was "winning" and what that is defined as. If you define it as loosely as Ukraine not in NATO, you may as well declare victory because today is a Monday and tomorrow shall be Tuesday. Eternal peremoga!
If you want to engage in the substance, explain how this weak military could actually deliver regime change on a mobilised, motivated and resistant Ukrainian population who hate rossfascism.
>>2446201>The initial conversation was about whether Russia was "winning" and what that is defined as.And the point I'm making is that framing it as though the conflict is more about Russia winning than it is about Ukraine winning is a fallacy. Russia are intervening in a conflict Ukraine started with very explicit goals and thus "winning" for Russia is successfully preventing Ukraine from achieving its goals as previously described.
>If you define it as loosely as Ukraine not in NATO, you may as well declare victory because today is a Monday and tomorrow shall be Tuesday. Eternal peremoga!Sounds like you're crying tbh, Ukraine and NATO both stated that they desired Ukrainian membership and that Russia's opinion on that will not be considered, so not very loosely defined much less defined by myself.
>If you want to engage in the substance,There isn't any substance to engage with, you know that Ukraine set its victory conditions to full 1991 borders and you've instead loosely defined that to mean "preventing Russia from conquering all of Ukraine, any clay they don't capture is a victory" and "never surrender under any circumstance, to prove that Russia can't force a surrender out of Ukraine"
>explain how this weak military could actually deliver regime change on a mobilised, motivated and resistant Ukrainian population who hate rossfascism.Or rather you can perhaps explain how a resurrected state with its primary legacy being its assimilation into Poland and Russia can fail at all goals set out in 2014 at massive, suicidal cost to the population who need to be impressed upon about being Ukrainian after this conflict let alone the last 30 years, is
guaranteed to survive in the long term.
There's an arrogance here commonly displayed online when discussing the Ukrainian war by which your own mindcanon about what is humiliating for Russia is something that can answer for the remaining Ukrainian populations questions like
>Did my deceased dad REALLY have to go to Kursk?>Where do I now work? When will my former workplace be rebuilt?>My son just died stepping on a mine that was on land never touched by Russia, what are the plans to remove all of them?>But seriously, when do we join the EU?etc etc
>>2446204American empire was just Brittish empire v1.5
That might explain it, they drew mostly from the same well and had the same ideas, lead by a candidate branch of the the same anglo establishment together with old guard rom London. Empires after all die by falling on their own sword and what made them great, since at the end the sons can't imagine changing the true and tested formula of empire cooked up by their illustrious fathers even if all is going to shit. With American empire it was mostly the same engine of britbong empire with a new, sparkplugs, crankshaft and an oil change.
>>2446206Quite the yarn you have to weave to interpret the colossal failure as slowly winning but not really because they're behind their own 2022 line as well as stated war goals.
The best bit is the copium about Ukraine being an artificial state, as if that's somehow relevant and not equally as applicable, if not more applicable to the Muscovite state.
It is blatantly obvious to anyone who isn't using emoted reasoning that Russia isn't "winning" unless you produce an extremely diluted definition of such. Not only is this winning not taking place but it cannot take place with their current atrophied military strength.
Try again but this time mention Chinese volunteers appearing en masse out of nowhere. That would be a fun one to read.
>>2446242>Why are you crying>Quite the yarn you have to weaveIs there a reason why you seemingly must start your post with dumb quips like this? Is it to imply you're not getting flustered?
>colossal failure>No ackshually Russia is behind their own stated war goals!>No ackshually Russia is the artificial state!>It's blatantly obvious to anyone who isn't using emoted reasoning>extremely diluted definition of such>That would be a fun one to read.Kind of imply the opposite, just comes across as desperate to come out on top while avoiding engaging with my post.
Like what was substantial about that post? At what point are you saying something that isn't essentially just "No you're wrong"?
>>2446246You seem upset? I'm not sure why though
I just wanted to know the reasoning for how someone could reach the conclusion that Russia was winning but now I understand. Your definition of winning is meaningless so you can always believe that it's happening despite the reality on the ground.
Russia is behind its position in 2022 and none of its stated war goals have been achieved. But none of that matters because /chug/ transplants you can believe in fairytales.
>>2446254>You seem upset? I'm not sure why thoughYou couldn't avoid it even to make a point?
>Your definition of winning is meaningless so you can always believe that it's happening despite the reality on the ground.<Oh I get it, you're just wrongYou're genuinely an idiot if you're incapable of not just making the exact same post again lmao
>>2446281>Is there an adequate definition of winning that somehow includes losing hundreds of thousands of men for some villages?Precisely my point when it comes to Ukraine and their repeated victory goal of all 1991 borders. They're throwing at lot at that goal, but they're not achieving it.
>How do you make that count as a building block for Kyiv's imminent capture and regime change in Ukraine?Because if there is any truth to the recent claim of 1.7 million military deaths and MIAs for Kiev, then that's a pretty big expense for failure to recapture all of the 1991 borders which they've repeatedly stated was not just a military goal but a national goal as well. That the borders are the bedrock of Ukrainian nationhood.
Really, Kiev could have done with shutting the fuck up once in a while in order to not talk themselves into such zero sum game that they can and probably will lose, but it seems that comes with the territory of being a nafoid.
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