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What's their fucking problem? Their membership ranges from genuine MLs all the way to reactionary rejects. Do they think the way to build communism is to adopt all the worst and most aggravating positions held by the now defunct black hammer?
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>>2454303
>vanguard party of the proletariat
>doesnt even consider trade unions in its strategy
absolute loser

>>2476115
>>2476334
Its Hazoids trying to promote their party through notoriety.
>The ACP (aka people even chuds on /pol/ have never heard about) totally killed Charlie Kirk!
>You should watch the live stream of our Great Lea- I mean the vile communist scum known as Haz-Al-Din!

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>>2480157
>they were still extremely progressive for their time, its your take that is so simplistic and straight up wrong you can say it is retarded

What I'm asking if you have a view that sees progressivims or appearance of it as an virtue in itself, not in the context of a socialists movement. Then you equate the faux progressivism of modern radlibs with that of the soviets.

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>>2480622
It doesn't matter, the soviets used the knowledge produced by the "woke radlibs obsessed with gender" of their time in the sexology institute of Berlin to set a policy that was emancipatory for the proletariat. They didn't look into the bible to guess how they should treat women and minorities like the ACP

>>2480628
Are faux leftists who support bombing of third world countries for not being woke enough "emancipatory for the proletariat"?

>>2480628
You do know that the soviets shut all of that down in the Stalin era right? They said that shit was getting in the way of communism and didn't do anything useful. They then proceeded to go to traditional gender roles + women working and sexuality was deemed a private matter. The USSR was not this paragon of wokeism radlibs make it out to be. It's more like someone trying something new, then abandoning it and going with the status quo.


>>2483009
That shit stalin did 20 years after the revolution was revoked after his death so yeah besides his reactionary sperg out the USSR was a woke radlib country for most of its existence

>>2483018
>sperg
No it wasn't revoked. The USSR retained all the criminalizations of the stalin era. Are you retarded? You can just google article 121 that was repealed only in 1993. And also, if you think the Corn Lord era completely broke with Stalin, wait till you hear about the Brezhnev era which partially rehabilitated Stalin.
USSR was woke radlib only from 1922-1929 and from 1987-1991

>>2483021
uygha Krutschev made new laws allowing workers more things regarding marriage, divorce, and abortion to reverse Stalin spaz out, he also persecuted the christfags again

>>2483027
And then brezhnev came and undid that except for the abortion (which even if legal was publicly stigmatized like modern smoking). Why are you so desperate to uphold the USSR as a bastion of wokeism when it still was a patriarchal society. You think under your worldview russia would look like sweeden but oh hey, its super conservative. And dont give me that bullshit about the 90s when the 90s liberalized fucking child prostitution and other disgusting shit. Czechia is very atheist but anticommunist, looks like they only kept atheism from the KSČ era. I also should mention that even things like a wife giving blowjobs to her husband were viewed as perversions and licking pussy was the sign of a cuckold (similar to that sopranos storyline). Im a social liberal but i hate when people bring up the USSR as an example. It was a deeply racist and socially reactionary country. Sure the government preached brotherhood of nations to the world but the people and politicians on an everyday level were racist reactionaries who used slurs and stereotypes more than anyone else. Someone should bring up that soviet police ethnicity board as example. You should talk to afghan war vets, or angola war vets theyll tell you exactly what they felt about those places. Racist drivel but hey we were fighting the pindosy (americans).
>tldr the USSR was for most of its existence deeply conservative and not woke. If anything it was the opposite of woke.

>>2483040
>>2483027
>the USSR was actually just controlled by dictators
>or people are just so retarded their morality flips every few years



>>2483040
>tldr the USSR was for most of its existence deeply conservative and not woke. If anything it was the opposite of woke.

no country throughout most of the cold war and before would qualify as woke by today's standards, by those day's standards they were pretty woke lmao

>>2455903
>Notice how the ACP has to characterize fascism in terms of vibes and ideology
because short-form video addicted teens are his target audience. That's the easiest way to communicate to them

>>2484211
boomer conservative relatives send me short form slop more than younger relatives do. the brain rot is not just generational

I am watching a haz stream of him analyzing richard spencer trolling jackson for being unable to define communism.

I finally understood why haz is hated so much. Here are the reasons imho
>Pesudism
he pretends to be an intellectual, but he is just an average retard who uses fancy words and long sentences that never end
>Ultra coping
He cannot call the sky blue and need to complicate a pretty obvious screw up/mistake. He needs to obfuscate these problems to such a degree that he pilpuls out of it
>No true beliefs
He doesn't believe in shit, all he cares about is optics and aesthetics and he sucks at both. All he ends up doing is creating a cult with its own brand that normies search for to stay away from.
>Annoying voice and lack of charisma
He has that caleb maupin voice but less buzz, still the brain hurts and only when he rants does it sound good. Any time he tries to aura farm his charisma, it looks stupid. When he poses he looks like a legit gorilla that escaped from the zoo.
>He is just fucking retarded
Let's be real, the guy is a total dumbass. He cannot explain things succinctly and simply. Fucking nicky fuentes does a better job and he is a fed bitch boy.

I honestly hope somebody takes over the acp from haz, someone that actually has charisma and intelligence. jackson is a cretin so it won't help but he is a leg up better than haz. Just his legitimate targets videos show better speech skills than haz.

My two cents. I hate this clownworld.

>>2491957
Also retard hype man lingo when he repeats the same word/sentence every 2 seconds, frequent superchat callouts and power trips when he singles out lone dissenters in chat.

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>>2491957
See picrel + vidrel

They will,you won't 'cause you still are unacceptable boogie man word believers for them,ACP has a chance

Look at these detatched internet weirdo losers. Look at this vile workerism. This is hallmark of fascist party.

>>2492675
Looks based ngl even if haz is a retard.

>>2492675
Careful, you gonna get banned like that

>>2492675
Making the revolution one construction business at the time

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They are based because they make reddit commies seethe. It's even funnier that all this shitflinging goes on when barely anyone knows about them.

They are a seed organization set up by the feds to be used if communism actually gets popular in the future. New commies will be funneled into these meme organizations, other examples are PSL, DSA, CPUSA, Green etc

>>2491957
Biggest issue with Haz is that he's streamer brained. I don't think he's retarded, he's clearly extremely intelligent and pretty encyclopaedic knowledge of his historical and philosophical interests and tears to shreds people in debates, but he's still playing to largely essentially the left version of the Asmongold base.
>I honestly hope somebody takes over the acp from haz, someone that actually has charisma and intelligence
Agreed, I mean, Haz runs a party called the American communist party… that he represents himself with a Russian flag lmao.
Haz is fine as a Commie AM call in radio show guy, but he clearly doesn't have the mindset and temprament to actually run the party properly, it's clear that most of the ACP party managing is really done by the local chapters, while Haz and Hinkle are just figureheads.
>Fucking nicky fuentes does a better job and he is a fed bitch boy.
I disagree, Haz has been basically Michael Myers chasing Fuentes around in every debate. Also Haz genuinely is fantastic at explaining Communism in an appealing way to normies.
Look up the video of Haz talking to a normie conservative about Communism, every Leftard honestly should learn from that video.
>>2504910
Honestly 98% of the hate of the ACP is simply the reality is they aren't dysgenic oikophobic self hating punk brained like the rest of the left and they, like any same Marxist, rejects gender cultism.
If Haz was full "Muh Choo Choo rights", "Uhh yes, a man can just say he's a woman and there is no biological difference between him and a female in that moment" literally 90% of the opposition to the ACP would dry up within the hour.
>>2455903
How is this any different from the wider left who deem "Umm social democracy is fascism, criticizing the democrats is fascism, having civil values is fascism, having immigration controls is fascism, this mildly conservative welfarist prime minister? Literally Nazi level Fascism".
I've long argued on Leftypol that Fascism was a fucking actual ideology and 90% of the people here disagree and have a meltdown over the fucking reality that yes, Fascists actually had a material program and actual ideological beliefs because it means they can't go around and label literally everything Fascism.
Fascism does not exist beyond some larp eastern european groups, Fascism died post WW2 and Fascist elements were them sublimated into the Liberal foreign policy blob. The average ex-literal Nazi today is your literal rainbow flag waving, redditor NAFO retard. (See Christina Freeland, The Uglies, the entire Balts, Average polak redditor, Nuland and Kagan and co.)
Also the ACP program is not Fascist at all, it's pretty much a copy-paste of China.

>>2504910
>Reactionaries are based because it annoys people at the nazi bar I refuse to leave.
Touch digital grass

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>>2504910
Haz makes anyone seethe. 2 streams ago he was like:
>WE NEED TO DESTROY CLASSICAL ARCHITECTURE OF EUROPE AND REPLACE IT WITH MODERNIST BRUTALISM
Just to see how his chat would take it. He has all the hallmarks of a cult leader and why he likes trump and strongmen. He loves to shit test his followers because he is jealous nicky fuentes can commandeer an army of racists that all came from various pockets of the right while he cannot do the same to the left. The left sees through his bullshit and avoids him. All that hurts his ego so he lashes out against his followers so he can feel good about
>At least I have a higher quality following
He constantly flexes how he has an army of loyalists. And constantly makes jokes about how he needs subs and money. He was even arguing with a bad-faith albanian dude (not zherka) and ended up debating how islam is actually communist with former nazis turned jihadis while displaying that albanian on the screen shadowboxing in a peppa pig suit.
<vidrel
Pathetic to be honest.

>>2505174
>He loves to shit test his followers
a true student of Stalin

>>2505174
>WE NEED TO DESTROY CLASSICAL ARCHITECTURE OF EUROPE AND REPLACE IT WITH MODERNIST BRUTALISM
well he's not wrong

>>2505181
I knew one of you uncultured swine was going to say that. Abandoning stalinist architecture was a really big mistake.
Fuck your worship of poverty faggot.
>muh excesses
Glowposts like yours are the reason normies will become nazis. Nobody wants to worship poverty.

>>2505188 (me)
Deng was right.
high fashion communism is the way.
Fuck haz for being a salty arab unable to appreciate the culture of superior civilizations.

>>2505190
He's. Lebanese. IDK if Levantine = Arab. I am not the geography understander.

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>>2505411
Haz pivoting to dawah-posting by mid-2026, im calling it right now

>>2505444
He's been doing this for years. I found his apostasy interesting, but let's keep it real, this dude is from and is forever a Dearbornite.

>>2505014
>Honestly 98% of the hate of the ACP is simply the reality is they aren't dysgenic oikophobic self hating punk brained like the rest of the left
Really? I get a much stronger "punk" vibe from them. Maybe my axis of orientation here is way different but like that the whole OWNED U BITCH attitude and trying to generate aggression and how they're REAL. They try to look clean cut but that's a surface appearance. This might be more apparent online though, but when I see one of their X accounts there's always a machine-gun spray of flags and icons decorating it which always looked to me like punk patches.

>I've long argued on Leftypol that Fascism was a fucking actual ideology and 90% of the people here disagree and have a meltdown over the fucking reality that yes, Fascists actually had a material program and actual ideological beliefs because it means they can't go around and label literally everything Fascism.

I think that's a defensible argument.

>Fascism does not exist beyond some larp eastern european groups, Fascism died post WW2 and Fascist elements were them sublimated into the Liberal foreign policy blob. The average ex-literal Nazi today is your literal rainbow flag waving, redditor NAFO retard. (See Christina Freeland, The Uglies, the entire Balts, Average polak redditor, Nuland and Kagan and co.)

I think the closest living examples are these Eastern European far-right paramilitary groups and the ones in Ukraine that are the playthings of those states' respective intelligence services, and Russia has them too in groups like the RO and Северный человек. But the idea that NATO = fascist because it absorbed German military officers is dumb. The East German officer corps was like 95% ex-Wehrmacht until the 1970s and like half of the functionaries of the SED (and all of the various controlled opposition parties) were ex-NSDAP. It's also not like the USSR was Tsarist because it absorbed Tsarist soldiers and officers, nor did the USSR became Nazi because it also recruited former Nazi scientists and technical experts (it did). Zhou Enlai served under the KMT in the 1920s and went to a nationalist military college (I think?). There are Ukrainian military officers who were trained by the Soviet Army, and there were Nazi collaborators who went during the Cold War as advisors to the Egyptian/Syrian armies who were armed by the USSR.

So, through a geneological account of individual identities, we can therefore conclude that the Russian Federation is not only Soviet, but Tsarist and National Socialist all at the same time! Maybe society does actually subsume itself to a few individuals and specialists (rather than the other way around).

>Also the ACP program is not Fascist at all, it's pretty much a copy-paste of China.

Well a lot of their stuff about what's "productive" labor and what isn't has more similarity to syndicalism. Then you combine that with nationalism, and I think there is a fascist potential in that. But the ACP is a fringe movement. At any rate, the argument that fascism was a distinct ideology is that it blended ultra-nationalism with a non-Marxist (anti-materialist) mutation of socialism/syndicalism and was hostile to both Marxism and liberalism. I think what also gets left out in discussions of fascism is love of war as a revolutionary force and belief in soldiers as proving themselves through their courage to be the core of a new elite.

>>2505548
>He's been doing this for years. I found his apostasy interesting, but let's keep it real, this dude is from and is forever a Dearbornite.
He might also be from a Maronite Christian background in reality.

>>2505619
>the idea that NATO = fascist because it absorbed German military officers is dumb.
You call ACP fascist, yet you break spine to say NATO is not fascist? You are the fascist. Everything you say is lies

>>2505619
NATO is fascist. Not because they absorbed german officers but because what they have been doing since their creation.

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>>2505014
>Honestly 98% of the hate of the ACP is simply the reality is they aren't dysgenic oikophobic self hating punk brained like the rest of the left

>>2505014
>unlike you dysgenic oikophobes, I'm a eugenicist and xenophobe
rope

>>2505622
>You call ACP fascist,
here is what they said:
< I think there is a fascist potential in that. But the ACP is a fringe movement
>yet you break spine to say NATO is not fascist? You are the fascist. Everything you say is lies
NATO is reactionary. ACP is different kind of reactionary. NATO is bigger threat because imperialism.

>>2505014
You are correct. Too bad the weirdos will not listen.

>>2505625
Fourth Reich shit is for conspiratards who conflate atrocities committed in the name of the established order with more infamous ones, but aren't smart enough to discuss how the differences are also important. For all their pretensions to Marxism they also can't escape being American left-liberals at their core with this bogey-manning about a form of regime that was the main enemy of global liberalism when it existed, that's why they appeal to that. At any rate, you can either commit to a serious critique of imperialism and the democratic capitalist state as it has existed since the 19th century or you can view the post-WWII period as nefarious schemes by ex-Nazis and those influenced by them. You can't really do both.

>>2505701
Fourth Reich shit is for people who are correct. Nazi germany was a project by western and british capitalists to commit atrocities in the name of the established order.

>>2505701
It is also important to not give too much importance to the differences. Fascism is just the dictatorship of reactionary capital, as per Dimitrov. We can and do put the WWII-era Japan, Italy, Hungary, Romania, Croatia etc. in the same box as Nazi Germany for most intents and purposes. Yes, there are obviously differences between different dictatorships of reactionary capital. Yes, those could be relevant. But these dictatorships of reactionary capital spawn from the same roots, they tend to have similar problems and coping mechanisms. It didn't start or stop with Germany.

>>2505757
For the examples you gave, I understand why people fighting in the Spanish Civil War would say that Franco is a "fascist" and are shooting at "fascists" even though some historian will be like "well ackshually it's a conservative restorationist regime with fascist trappings." But Dimitrov also explicitly distinguished fascism from liberal bourgeois democracy because of certain characteristics (there was a certain level of democratic space whereas that just flat-out did not exist in fascist states) and because those were potential allies in the anti-fascist struggle (at least temporarily). Especially the U.S. and Britain.

At the same time, this "Fourth Reich" stuff can also lead to a weirdly under-critical view of bourgeois democracy and the state around it as institutions as well. Those guys will say "American democracy was hijacked by an imperialist deep state" all the time. I know ACP types like to say that their support for Trump was actually some cynical maneuver to recruit MAGA people when Trump would let them down, but you know some of those guys also really did buy into Trump or voted for him or wanted to believe he wouldn't give Tomahawk missiles to the Azov Regiment or wouldn't turn the screws on Maduro, and have been disappointed. But they still like to talk like "oh it's the deep state at it again…." and maybe if Trump would only listen… while also believing that Russia is on the path to becoming socialist again (but mainly because it used to be the Soviet Union and it's the same now).


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