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>>2485590Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet >>2487205>How is a communist movement, which requires individual liberation to combat Capitalism's alienation effects, going to work if we just approach the masses as fodder for our goals?Communism doesn't happen overnight, it requires a vanguard to direct the state through the transition from Capitalism to Communism. You can't just educate people and expect them to understand how to operate in a classless society. It takes multiple generations of steady progress and a guiding hand to eliminate the evils of Capitalism from the psyche of the masses.
>How would the leaders even grasp or care about the needs or the masses, and instead just take it as an opportunity to gain power and be a dictator? That's on the proletariat's trust in their leadership. You can't achieve any movement or revolution without some level of faith in the people you choose to follow. You also can't just have a leaderless movement when 99% of the people around you were raised under Capitalism and have very flawed or misguided ideas. You need figures that can communicate to the proletariat in terms that can be digested by the least educated victims of Capital. That's why effective leadership is important.
>>2487254Some American travelers are ‘flag jacking’ and Canadians are livid
> It was only after a heated confrontation with Canadians and a surprising exchange with a local taxi driver during her vacation in the Dominican Republic earlier this year that the American tourist from upstate New York resorted to lying about her nationality for the first time.
>Metzger, 33, and her fiancé were at a French-Canadian bar in El Pueblito in February, which was showing the final of the 4 Nations Face-Off hockey tournament between Canada and the US.
> When the American team scored a goal, Metzger’s lone, “Woo, USA,” did not go down well.
<“A Canadian couple screamed at me, saying that America is selfish, and ruining everything for Canada and the world,” Metzger told CNN. “The girl started crying, and said, ‘I don’t think Americans realize that what’s going on is really affecting us here.’”
>Metzger tried to defend herself, explaining that she didn’t vote for Trump. But tempers flared under the influence of alcohol. Eventually, the situation de-escalated and the couple returned to apologize with a flight of shots.
<“I told her I get it. As somebody who didn’t vote for this, it’s affecting everyone. We’re all feeling the effects of it and unfortunately, the only thing we can do right now is ride it out together.”
> The maple leaf has long been a powerful diplomatic accessory for Canadian travelers who have been known to sew the Canadian flag on their bags to distinguish themselves from Americans.
>But over the last few months, some US tourists have revived a decades-old practice of masquerading as Canadians in order to avoid anti-American sentiment abroad under the Trump administration. They’re hiding behind the maple leaf, falsely identifying themselves as Canadians and displaying the Canadian flag on their bags in a phenomenon known as flag jacking.
>And Canadians are irate.
<“For some reason, Americans think that we are their backup passport. The world’s first dual-action moral absolver. Just apply gently and watch the shame disappear,” says Tod Maffin, a Canadian cultural commentator who eviscerates flag-jacking Americans in a short video rant that has had more than 100,000 views across his social media platforms since being uploaded less than three months ago. >>2487302>more perfect unionoh, I've seen their videos, and they love to attack Chynah, whenever, and wherever they can.
aw shit.
>>2487330which in all likelihood will be ig reels
>>2487319>>2487338btw it's me UvU
>>2487385but dems had shillary, mommala, amy "blizzard" klobuchar…
>>2487388>She doesn't have the irl charisma to be elected president.since when is that an issue for politicians? it's a circus, not a platform for real change.
>>2487150Imagine having a 1 trillion dollar budget but no cool projects
Where's the Liberty Prime? Wheres the flying tanks? Laser beams? Fucking nothing
>>2487443idk who this avatar breadtuber is but they sound pretty lib 90 secs in. please keep it isg. i'm not even very dismissive of breadtubers by default but this guy is just tut-tutting over being glad this stupid reactoid is dead.
>oh but its heckin useful to the rightplease. let the left and right switch places. let the left embrace total violence against their enemies and the right embrace the limpdicked martyrdom that the left is known for. it would be very funny. See how "useful" that is to the right after a few years of it.
>>2487456Also that. And he's a white guy who's not too woke and she's a brown Latina. They want an ethnic / gender mix like that. The other question is, is AOC careerist enough to position herself to spring into the vice presidency? (Yes)
>>2487463I was been thinking this too (for betting purposes) because he's supposed to have some appeal to young chuds, or so I've read on the internet, while also being very Republican establishment at the same time (makes sense?) but I don't see any momentum. There's no mo. Everyone is talking about Vance in 2028 but that guy is such a dweeb. Idgi
>>2487480The 'aesthetics' or charisma is totally detached ATP. Vance will get momentum because he's both NOT a geriatric and because he's recognized among Amerifats as 'The VP to Trump'. He's also just liked amongst the 'median' MAGA voter
This is if we don't get a Term Limit extension though, in which it will definitely just be trump running again
>>2487254i care plenty about socialism but believe it or not i prefer the 2nd option to the 1st. that said i do think some kind of major disruption to break US imperial hegemony is necessary and despite the potential for massive suffering in the US
which i think is bad, actually! on the whole if it breaks the strangehold US empire has on the world its for the best
>>2487499kissinger died at 100 yo. carter died at 100yo. biden is three years older than trump, and got to be the DNC official candidate first, before he fucked up the debate with trump in mid 2024.
the US has had many instances of congresspeople dying of old age in office.
don't underestimate the boomercracy.
>>2487425>But yeah, imagine if we had a commie any guy with like a reasonable amount of charisma, and just seemed like a normal guy for the most part.Unironically why I think Communists need to have normie friends that they don't treat as some intentional conversion project.
>>2487282That's why you gotta own up to it like Homer does in the second part of that gif
>>2487450Wont' do.It's getting ridiculous. Absurd. Preposterous levels of sag.
That's too much sag. She's barely 35 and her breasts are already lowered to Pelosi's level.
>>2487580>The European elite would rather start another world war with RussiaThe Americans actually couped ukraine in 2014 and pushed the EU semi-willingly into conflict with Russia, accelerating this process by bombing nordstream 2, which biden promised would happen before russia even invaded, and which victoria nuland celebrated after it happened.
but really the primary contradiction was NATO. NATO promised gorbachev no more eastward expansion in 1991. if the USSR dissolved. that promise (which gorbachev was stupid to believe and even stupider to keep secret) was immediately betrayed. yugoslavia was destroyed, and at the same time NATO expanded to nearly double in size (15 out of 32 have joined since 1991). What's more is only 6 of the 32 NATO members held democratic referendums before joining. So this was bourgeois decree in nearly every situation.
>>2487582Yeah the world is transitioning so peacefully to the USA having mere competition in the global markets.
And USAnos themselves, in their political discourse are so chill about it aswell.
Yeap.
https://vxtwitter.com/atrupar/status/1969152340595720245?s=46TRUMP\: That's why I sued the New York Times two days ago for a lot of money
KARL\: A judge just threw that out
TRUMP\: I'm winning\. I'm winning the cases\. https\://t\.co/svLZbTuQR4
>>2487155>>2487158t. Demonkkkratcells rejecting the advanced immortal superscience of MAGAcommunism
>>2487603Is… is he getting more orange?
>>2487604
>It's the strongest air power in the world still I think, but the AA missile has simply surpassed them. Houthis can shoot down their pride and joy now, one of the poorest states on the planet. 3000 useless jets, trillions of dollars wasted on a defunct paradigm.
I think you're overstating it a bit. I don't think it's the case that being able to shoot down fighter planes makes them obsolete all of a sudden. If that was the case, China wouldn't be invested in its air force.
At any rate, the U.S. attacks on the Houthis ended when the Houthis agreed to stop attacking shipping in the Red Sea. That was the U.S. demand when the Trump administration began bombing them. I think they claimed one attack since then, but in that sense, the U.S. bombing was mostly a success. You can see this with the drop container spot prices (with another surge when Israel and the U.S. attacked Iran), although major shippers are still only gradually returning to the Red Sea according to their trade publications.
>They won't worm their way back into Afghanistan, if they even try.
The only way I can see that happening is if the Taliban agrees to it, although I don't think that would be as shocking as some people might think.
>>2487654Nobody does, it's all an excuse to further crush down dissent and push censorship online and in MSM. Even KKKirk's wife has opportunistically used this whole circus to launch her political grifting career.
I almost feel bad for Charlie, mf truly didn't have any real friends.
>>2487610>Autism is totally out of control.fuck you i won't do what you tell me
fuck you i won't do what you tell me
fuck you i won't do what you tell me
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Religious Persecution of Peace Activists Esclates in South Korea
>Rev. Sun Myung Moon met with Kim Il Sung on December 6, 1991, and reconciled with him, forgiving him for his imprisonment prior to the Korean War. Moon proceeded to invest millions of dollars into joint ventures with North Korea’s state-run industries, including the creation of a car company, and opened the door for other Christian missionaries to visit North Korea, such as Rev. Billy Graham.
>After the death of Rev. Sun Myung Moon 13 years ago, his widow, known as Holy Mother Hak Ja Han, continued this important work. The historic meetings that took place during Trump’s first term in office—where Trump and Kim Jong Un shook hands, and Trump became the first sitting president to visit DPRK territory—were made possible in part by the relentless work of the Unification Church under Holy Mother Han’s leadership.
>The efforts of the Unification Church to promote peace with North Korea have also led to an escalation of the persecution the church has faced over the years. The Japanese government outlawed the church and forced it to legally disband earlier this year. Now, prosecutors in South Korea are targeting the church and have compelled Hak Ja Han to meet with state authorities.https://www.cpiusa.org/news/religious-persecution-of-peace-activists-esclates-in-south-korea >>2487660>Do they though? On paper they should but stranger things have happened than a big country loosing to a small country. On paper they should have bagged it a while ago actually. Yeah, Russia has won the war at this point. Outside of Army Group South spontaneously rising from the dead or the US somehow nuking all of Russia off the map before Moscow can respond or their deadman's switch fails, Ukraine is toast. Their replenishment rate is a third of what they need just to tread water and their government is coming up short some 50 billion dollars it needs to fund itself and the war through next year, with none of its backers leaping at the chance to finance it.
Even before all that it was on the wrong side of a number of ratios since the war started, and those have only grown by significant degrees in Russia's favor as this conflict has gone on. The only area Ukraine enjoyed superiority in was drone production, but since this year Russia has eclipsed them, not only in production but in tactics, anti drone AD, and development of new technologies.
>Not to mention this invasion made NATO bigger and willing to amp up military spending again. The only real change from making "nato bigger" is the shift from de facto to de jure membership status in Sweden, Finland, and Austria, which the combined size of their current standing militaries doesn't add up to a single one of any of the three whole armies that Russia has stood up since the war started.
As for increased nato spending, at this point it's just pushing rope because there a) isn't any coherent economic policy behind it besides "spend more money", b) hasn't actually produced meaningful increases in arms production, military size, or readiness, and c) is coming at the expense of their civilian populations and economies which is producing increasing levels of discontent across the eurozone as governments announce increased austerity up to and including the abolition of the welfare state, as well as overt suspensions of democracy to maintain cohesion.
The root of the problem is exactly the sort of laissez fair economics that the West has cultivated over the past 30 years, which has created a situation where increasing industrial capacity and actual production runs counter to the economic priorities of the bourgeoisie. One example is that the price of shells in Europe has more than tripled since the beginning of the war, which is great for weapons manufacturers but not for the military that they're supposed to supply. Arms producers have stated serious skepticism about building new facilities because they doubt that demand for these weapons at these prices will outlast the war, which makes investing in new facilities unappetizing.
Another example is a report from the US Government Accountability Office which pretty much states that the US mic isn't built for task. It is now dominated by a handful of monopolies that make a small number of bespoke weapons and is more or less incapable of reforming to create the levels of industrial output that Russia or even North Korea have proven capable of. To put it simply, the mic of the US is designed to make money, not weapons, and you can't have both. Also thanks to the laissez fair policies of the US politicians, the government has pretty much lost the ability to either supervise or punish these companies in any meaningful way, so there's nothing really they can do to force these companies like Raytheon to do what they need them to do, or punish them for taking money meant to increase production and just pocketing it.
So yeah, increased nato spending is a big "so what" at this point because they're cutting their nose to spite their face. It's only increasing costs for themselves, both economically and socially, and not producing anything truly tangible besides unhappiness. If anything it's evidence of just how dire the straits have become for nato because increasing spending is really the only thing they can do to try and respond to how severely fucked they are and it simply isn't going to work.
>>2487722LMAO, too bad any retard on the internet can make their own very rough inflation report with basic math skills.
Seriously, just put walmart.com into the wayback machine & compare prices for the same goods, lol.
trumpists and allies have for some time now been acutely worried about assassinations. trumps' heart has been beating a little faster since tommy crooks' warning shot & the man in the bushes soon after – no more feeling safe speaking. no more feeling safe golfing. then there was the man in the cybertruck. that one was just scary.
then there were the constant intrusions by small planes into mar-a-lago airspace. just individual pilots accidentally turning their old cessna in the wrong direction & not responding for long enough to set off warning bells. but then they hop on the radio, act confused, and apologize. this is happening orders of magnitude more than it was during his last term.
maybe the air is just busy down in florida. maybe old men with small planes are thrillseekers with "don't tread on me" tendencies. but the effect either way is trump being woken up in the middle of the night…night after night after night. "nonresponding incoming aircraft, mr president." no more feeling safe there either.
haley barbour gave him a warning – that gun being found in his briefcase in 2018 wasn't an accident. trump's mortal enemies – those with the means and the daring – are far more numerous among republicans & libertarians than democrats…liberals pine for a clean electoral victory to wash away his memory, but to those whose "side" he took over, he is a wart, a defiler of their own house.
he is protected, to some extent, by his ignobility as an enemy – it always seems like, surely, everyone will realize tomorrow that he is ridiculous. and his name does not deserve to be listed next to the presidents of the united states who died in the line of duty. but they'll keep making runs at him. keep coming just up to the line. never let him sleep.
and it's been working – does he look good? that black & yellow snake is killing by constriction.
then there's the latest event. now trump supporters are saying they won't do outside events anymore. in a prior day, that would be called "letting the terrorists win" – but the degree of fear, so suddenly, makes one wonder how many close calls, found gun caches and unidentified individuals there have been at republican events.
there did keep being people stopped with guns at elon musk events while he was in the president's circle – he was reportedly maniacally paranoid about being shot in the head. that could have just been drugs, but considering what elon was up to at the time, it probably wasn't. (why did his rockets keep blowing up until he left trump's side? one for another time.)
they've been boiling in fear, and what just happened proved their fears real…there is a stranger in the menacing shadows…and because they are cowards, who hide behind each other, they think there must be some opposing group out to get them – but there isn't…just lone gunmen. they have marched into a swamp of bees and snakes, and they'll tilt deeper yet looking for the wizard who must be controlling them.
each line that they cross from here will only generate more bees and snakes…remember that nikki haley won vermont – for better or worse, there is no shortage of lone gunmen in the country.
>>2487735ok nvm i love trump now. sorry guys
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>>2487736The country is fucking sinking and Trump is using a smokescreen of spectacle, both of the vulgar type like what you just posted as well as symbolic culture war wins that don't actually mean fucking anything. Rightoids completely buy it btw, the other day I was checking /pol/ threads about antifa becoming a terrorist organization and some of the smarter /pol/tards were pointing out that they can now just accuse anti-israel people of being antifa, which in the /pol/tard world-view is a massive W for da joos.
The replies? people going "yeah but right now its a win and the libs are crying so its fine".
>>2487683>What is the actual purpose of having a plane take your missile to a point on the map, when the missile itself has evolved to such a degree it can now take itself to that point on the map?There's still a lot of perks for using planes as a launching platform for the missiles, because you can launch the missiles from wherever the planes can go. Also physics (velocity, lower air density, etc.). You launch a missile at high altitude while traveling at 500 mph, the missile is already at a head start. There's a trend now towards cruise missiles and drones being combined into the same weapon. I should mention that one of the deadliest weapons aimed at Ukrainian troops are air-launched ballistic missiles (that travel on a ballistic trajectory) which are flinged by Russian warplanes from inside Russia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-47M2_KinzhalAir forces are expensive and it tends to be rich countries that can afford them or have the industry to manufacture expensive aircraft at scale. It's true that the Houthis maximize their advantages by firing ballistic missiles at Israel rather than investing in an air force, but Yemen is a poor country. It's not a preference to rely on cheap ballistic missiles with 1950s technology, it's more like doing them doing their meta based on the resources they have available. Most of the missiles don't get through Israeli air defenses but it's still a problem for Israel. That's how I see it. If Yemen was a rich country that could afford a fleet of warplanes, it would be a different story.
>As I remember it this was some kind of face saving deal that saw the Americans lose several jets and have a carrier damagedWell "we" lost several jets to accidents (falling off the carrier) and also accidentally shooting down one of "our" own jets with a surface-to-air missile fired from a U.S. warship. Which is hilarious but I don't think a carrier was ever damaged. This was stuff people said on the internet but I don't think it's true and no evidence was ever provided for it. There was also a story that checked out that an F-35 had to do some maneuvering to avoid being shot down. You have to put it into relative perspective a bit though, the U.S. military has lost literally thousands of jets in accidents since World War II. A lot of warplanes got shot down during the Vietnam War too including B-52 strategic bombers.
>Have the Houthis actually stopped attacking shipping? Did they get concessions? Because I think they still bomb Israel quite a bit, and they did give the US a black eye.I've read about the Houthis sinking a ship once since then (looking it up, it happened in July with a ship called the "Magic Seas"), but I haven't read about any others, so it might still have been a one-off thing. But they were attacking a lot of ships for awhile. They also still fire at Israel, but when Trump escalated the attacks on them, the U.S. government stated that they would bomb until the Houthis stopped firing at shipping, but not Israel. The way I look at it, in any military conflict, the first question is: what is your political objective. In this case, I think the objectives were limited (halting attacks on shipping) and it corresponded to the forces supplied to the conflict (basically a single carrier group and some supporting aircraft based in the Middle East), although that had not been the case during 2024. The U.S. was trying to stop the Houthis from attacking ships by firing at Houthi drones and missiles over the Red Sea, but that wasn't actually deterring the Houthis from continuing to do it, and it's not like those missiles and drones were costing the Houthis very much. Very cheap.
>They seem to be the least cynical faction on the planet so I'm skeptical of them folding totally just because the Americans bombed them one tenth of how much the Saudis bombed them.I don't know what the Houthis thought about it, but I think they probably saw a deal where they stopped firing at shipping (largely), but continue firing at Israel, in exchange for an end to the U.S. campaign against them as an acceptable trade-off.
>>2487468no.
unless someone make a new Charlie Kirk thread
>>2487782I don't think this applies to current H1B visa holders? Wouldn't it only be for new applicants?
Besides, the 3rd world needs professionals too.
>>2487799Ask Cuba if having lots of really smart professionals has improved their community significantly
>But Cuba is poor cuz of AmeriKKKan imperialism!True but US imperialism won't stop after they ban H1-Bs
>>2487743>Sorry but I hear that Russia won since 2022 so you will understand I have my doubts. And it's been true since 2022, just as much as the fact that Germany was going to lose the war by 1943 but kept on fighting through 1945.
>I agree it's the most likely scenario but the fighting is still raging among more or less static positions and a possibility is that Russia enters a very bad recession with a loss of public support and then the clock won't be ticking in their favor. The only problem is that this isn't true. The positions aren't "more or less static" and every meaningful report from the Ukrainians is that their numbers and conditions continue to deteriorate while Russia's improves. The Russian economy is on more firm footing than Europe's or even the US and public opinion about the war is that its necessary and being fought correctly. The idea that the autarkic Russian economy is going to suddenly collapse from outside pressure or that the Russian people are going to rise up over vague grievances is pure think tank hope and prayers that haven't borne out since the sanctions regime started in 2014.
>The truth is even with the american mic being ossified russia's military is still second rate compared to the US, and North Korea is a joke. Technology wins wars now not billions of shells, China learned that after Iraq and you can see them parading their new toys while Israel humiliated Iran with bespoke weapons and good intelligence not too long ago…The exact opposite is true and I feel embarrassed for you for being so childishly inept. Not only does Russia have technological parity with the US, in some domains it actually exceeds it such as with its hypersonic missile technology. Beyond that, the US not only demonstrates deficiency in high technology, but in simple industrial production as well. When the war started in 22, Raytheon had to recall retired engineers in order to restart stinger missile production because no one then at the company had the skills or knowledge to produce them. As far as shells go, artillery still is the leading cause of casualties, and this plays out with the fact that Russia has enjoyed a 10:1 or greater advantage in artillery since the war began and this correlates with the actual casualties in Russia's favor.
Your conception of reality is the exact opposite of what it actually is. If that were the case, there'd be no question about what's happening in Ukraine because nato would be fighting in Russia by now, but instead Ukraine cedes territory by the day. The idea that Israel "humiliated" Iran is pure fantasy, actual delusion. They failed to destroy Iranian AD, topple its government, or even substantially impede or degrade its nuclear program, and had to be rescued with a face saving gesture by the United States, which was allowed to portray the farce by the Iranian government. This nonsense has been thoroughly refuted by the fact that in spite of their technologically advanced wunderwaffen neither the Israelis nor the Americans have been able to defeat the Houthis. The ones humiliated are these technological terror regimes exposing their pathetic impotence to the world as they fail to cow peoples they consider utterly inferior.
>>2487815>does not make communism inevitableI would gladly see that die roll again. Again. Again. And again.
>how many dead does it take for you to-All of them.
>>2487735This is unironically the most based thing trump has ever done
$100,000 fee per year per strikebreaker lmao
>>2487818>dieddid ever stop?
<'A national scandal': US excess deaths rose even after pandemic, far outpacing peer countries>Excess deaths in the United States kept rising even after the peak of the COVID-19 pandemic, with more than 1.5 million in 2022 and 2023 that would have been prevented had US death rates matched those of peer countries, estimates a Boston University (BU)-led study today in JAMA Health Forum.
>Rates more than double comparable nations in young adultsFrom 1980 to 2023, 107.5 million people died in the United States, and 230.2 million people did so in other HICs. During this period, an estimated 14.7 million excess US deaths occurred, peaking during the COVID-19 pandemic in 2021.
>Yet there were still more than 1.5 million excess deaths in 2022 and 2023, and rates remained substantially elevated compared with those from before the pandemic. Other HICs saw less-pronounced pandemic surges.>Gaps between the United States and other HICs widened before and during the pandemic, especially among younger adults, before shrinking in 2022 and 2023. Age-standardized death rate ratios comparing the United States with other HIC averages were 1.20 in 2010 (20% higher), 1.28 in 2019, 1.46 in 2021, and 1.30 in 2023. Death rates among US adults aged 25 to 44 years were 2.6 times higher than in other HICs in 2023.https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama-health-forum/fullarticle/2834281https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/national-scandal-us-excess-deaths-rose-even-after-pandemic-far-outpacing-peer-countriesand with a 30% less medical personnel?
LMAOwelcome to the white genocide perpetrated by white men.
https://www.them.us/story/trump-admin-fbi-trans-nihilistic-violent-extremists-terroristFBI to Categorize Trans People As "Nihilistic Violent Extremist" Threat Group, Report SaysThe Federal Bureau of Investigation is reportedly preparing to categorize transgender people as “violent extremists,” a categorization supported by organizations affiliated with Project 2025.
>According to a September 18 report by independent journalist Ken Klippenstein, two anonymous national security officials said that the Bureau is discussing treating trans subjects as a subset of its new threat category, “Nihilistic Violent Extremists” (NVEs), which was created earlier this year. The Bureau defines “Nihilistic Violent Extremism” as “criminal conduct… in furtherance of political, social, or religious goals that derive primarily from a hatred of society at large and a desire to bring about its collapse by sowing indiscriminate chaos.”
>Officials said that such a classification would give the Trump administration “political (and media) cover” as they escalate their anti-trans campaign in the aftermath of right-wing pundit Charlie Kirk’s death.
>“They are cynically targeting trans people because the shooter’s lover was trans,” an unnamed senior intelligence official told Klippenstein. “The administration has convinced itself that the Charlie Kirk murder exposes some dark conspiracy.”
>Last week, the false claim that there were “transgender” engravings on the bullets that suspect Tyler Robinson allegedly used to shoot Kirk began circulating widely, boosted by anti-LGBTQ+ conservatives like Rep. Nancy Mace and Steven Crowder. Utah Gov. Spencer Cox later confirmed that there was “no indication that the ammunition included transgender references.” On Sunday, Cox told Meet the Press that Robinson was allegedly in a romantic relationship with a roommate who is trans, providing no additional public corroborating data or information of the roommate's gender. The authorities have stipulated the roommate has been cooperating with the investigation and was not aware of the shooting prior to its occurrence.
>Despite no evidence linking an alleged trans roommate to Robinson’s motivation for shooting Kirk, right-wingers are nevertheless attempting to use this detail to push an anti-trans agenda. In a petition launched on Thursday, the Heritage Foundation — the far-right think tank behind the derided and controversial Project 2025 — and its spin-off group, the Oversight Project, asked the FBI to designate “Transgender Ideology-Inspired Violent Extremism” (TIVE) as a domestic terrorism threat category.
>The group defines “TIVE” as “the belief that violence is justified against people who oppose [the trans community],” as well as the belief that opposing trans rights “itself constitutes a form of violence towards people who identify as [trans or gender nonconforming]… or poses an imminent threat to such persons’ emotional, psychological, or physical safety, including through self-harm or suicide.”
>As The Independent noted, if such a category is adopted by the FBI, it could be applied to rhetoric used by activists, writers, and allies speaking out against anti-trans policies and rhetoric.
>At least a dozen hoaxes have claimed trans people were responsible for mass shootings and other incidents since 2012.In reality, there is no evidence suggesting significant patterns of violence committed by trans people. In 2024, The Gun Violence Archive’s Executive Director, Mark Bryant, said that out of 5,000 mass shootings tracked by the archive, the number of trans or LGBTQ+ suspects is in “the single digit numbers.” >>2487834>you're a petty little sociopath filled with resentment, indistinguishable from any boomer maga reactionaryoh, boo-hoo. you are crying over spilled milk. put a pair and do something about it.
like anything.
>>2487853ehem:
>>2487471 (me)
he already stated that he will run again.
>>2487859does that answer your question?
>>2487843Every time I see news like this it makes me wonder why other transformers haven't totally scrubbed as much of their face and name offline as possible
It's a ticking time bomb, really.
I was thinking the other day of how Charlie Kirk was one of the few non-freak prominent rightoids. Bland. Banal. True. But also a family man who wasn't known as a disgusting sex pest, closeted homosexual, or pedophile degenerate.
The only other "non-freak" I can think of is unironically Ben Shapiro. But he's a jew. And so remains an "outsider".
It's going to be difficult moving forward for the larger MAGA/Christofash movement, especially with Trump pushing 80, when you lack any role models or flag bearers able to pick up where their predecessors left..
I saw some clips of Kirk doing interviews, and whilst he was hardly an intellectual titan, there was a soothing agreeableness to him that made his stances appear "reasonable" (even if they weren't). And I think in part this was due to his innate banality. But now you're at a point where no one has either Trump's secret sauce, or Kirk's average joe aura.
Kirk was also one of the few near the top who appeared to be universally liked (Fuentes/Groypers excepting) and didn't engage in constant twitter and other edrama.
I think it's gonna to be quite interesting once Trump croaks, and they have no one agreeable to rally around.
>>2487799I think it should be pretty obvious by now this is mainly popular with the 'PMC" wing of the GOP/MAGA movement.
And ultimately, I think this is what everyone who cared about this "issue" always thought was the 'real problem', and not some 'unskilled" migrant worker from Honduras picking fruits in California.
There's a lot angst and psychopathology surrounding opposition to immigration (including internal)., but the recurring theme remains the fear the 'out-group' will take well-paying prestigious professional and managerial jobs, or push out established "native" small businesses. (Carpet Bangers etc).
I'm not saying you should shed tears over this, but considering who's pushing for this, and the reasons for it, it's not something which should be cheered on either.
It's very different from unions and organized workers demanding companies and sectors only hire union labor.
>>2487872>He'll be 83.and? biden would have been 82 years old, had he been elected. no one bated an eyes at the DNC. no one will at the RNC.
and as I said:
>>2487539, and just 8 months ago, a congresswoman disappeared from the public eye because she had dementia, FOR FUCKING 6 MONTHS.
kek.
>>2487884Don't forget
>Libs and rightoid billionaires like H1B1 visas<Commies and aunt teefa did this!Lel
>>2487901It's great, isn't it?
>American Farmers Are Feeling the Pain of Trump’s Policies>US agricultural communities that had expected Trump to have their backs have found themselves flung into a second trade war. If the situation continues, it could put loyalties at risk.Press S to spit on Orange Retard's supporters. And America.
>>2487925It's funny, one of the major complaints I saw a rightoid make about immigration is that they "play their music too damn loud".
The guy ended up sounding like an old man from the 60s complaining about rock and roll, yet this is 2025 and this MF was in his 20s.
>>2487879just love that they can repeat the
actual blood libel of hamas beheading babies, shit that literally never happened, while crying that pointing out the actual 680,000 they have truly killed (34% of Gaza City) is "blood libel"
>>2487898Thielites are way too highbrow for a mass movement. And most of them, Thiel included, have less charisma than Chris Chan.
Carlson also isn't a leader figure. Kirk on the other hand I think (as some have suggested) was being groomed for higher office.
And if the rumors about the motive are true, Robinson really went for the both the literal and figurative jugular of the movement, Trump himself excepting.
There's simply no one who can take over the reins, has the same level of elite backing, is agreeable to most, and isn't a sexual degenerate. The rest of them can barely get along with one another.
And I think deep down a lot of them know this. Regardless if they're unwilling or unable to articulate it. There's too many freaks, too many dumb vendettas, and too many egos.
>>2487933>isn't this what is just already happening? kyle kulinsky's father died from vertebral cancer because he relied on a chiropractor for back pain instead of going to a real doctor.I mean homeopathy exists (and is being actively pushed) but its a little different from what the libertarians ultimately want, which is a return to this bizarre and extremely archaic kind of capitalism where you'd go to a barber and he'll say "I also do root canals!" I think the nightmarish thing is where you don't even have this distinction between "doctor" and "chiropractor" anymore, you'll have all these little clinics that can look as clean and as "official" as can be, but your "doctor" was a guy who made a career change from an Amazon driver to a "doctor" and is kept around because he's great at "customer service".
>>2487934Good on you my man, I hope the exercise goes well!
I really need to get back to it, I fucked up my wrist a while back (knee before that) and once you fall off a consistent exercise routine, the hardest thing is getting back on it.
>>2487950can someone explain to me why the green nation is defending the blue nation.
also can someone explain to me how the average american (not oil barons and weapons contractors) benefit from palestinian genocide? I keep getting told average americans benefit from the genocide of palestinians, but what I have seen during the intensification of this genocide from 2023 until now is not benefits, but more privatization, more deregulation, more austerity, more union busting, more violence from the police state against the civilian population. I really don't see how corporations plundering ukraine for minerals benefits me either.
>>2487957>can someone explain to me why the green nation is defending the blue nation.why the green USA is defending the blue EU*
according to that very map, the average american would actually benefit from a global redistribution of wealth while its "vassal" the EU would not. why are americans paying to protect the actual imperial core, the EU and canada? We're their golem, not the primary beneficiaries, especially once you consider our failing schools and our huge prison population and our terrible health care, all of which are superior in EVROPA, whose defense we pay for. but we are the supposed beneficiaries of this system and not them/israel.
>>2487957>also can someone explain to me how the average american (not oil barons and weapons contractors) benefit from palestinian genocide? I keep getting told average americans benefit from the genocide of palestinians, but what I have seen during the intensification of this genocide from 2023 until now is not benefits, but more privatization, more deregulation, more austerity, more union busting, more violence from the police state against the civilian population. I really don't see how corporations plundering ukraine for minerals benefits me either.We subsist on the souls of the innocent, apparently.
There's no actual explanation to it, these same people on here literally claimed we wouldn't have electricity without imperialism. They just want to bait by exclaiming that "things will get worse" under Communism then point to you saying "no they wont" as proof that they're right because "See! I'm a truth speaker! They hate me for preaching the truth!"
>>2487950>communism isn't about lowering people's standards of living.I was thinking about this the other day. My parents are petite bourgeois retirees. Just the other day my dad was basically complaining about this smoker grill he's got. Basically he only uses it once or twice a year for holiday cooking. He's also got a nice, big expensive gas range that also pretty much goes unused. Instead he just uses a nina airfrier because that's all he really needs for him and my mom.
So is that what they mean by "lowered standards of living under communism?" That wealthy people might not be able to own everything they want? Even stuff they don't really even need, want, or can use themselves? My father spent a lifetime working and saving to build a beautiful house for him and his wife to retire in, put a fantastic stove in it, got a grill for the deck, and now they're both just ornaments collecting dust while his wife slowly dies of cancer.
So much for "standards of living" I guess.
>>2487966There's a difference between excess commodities and "standard of living". SoL is supposed to be a representation of your ease of access to
the necessities of life.Y'know what people need? They need housing, they need healthcare, they don't fucking need the latest iPhone or whatever. My buddy, God bless him, was still using a ratty ass flip-phone into the 2020s until his manager just gave him his old smartphone out of pity. It's not about having "duh most cheezburgers" or whatever the fuck.
>>2487969Don't make me tap the sign.
Besides, yelling at subhuman /pol/ macaques is relaxing.
>>2487920https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHVA_FyXvPkautomation is CUMming for you luddites
Orange trees are NEXT
>>2487878I have a this insane prediction they're going to keep Trump "alive" via AI once he dies. They'll create an AI programmed to perfectly replicate Trump so he can still be president but forever now. MAGATs will go bonkers and love it because their Golden Calf will never die.
Again this sounds genuinely insane but seeing them use an AI video of Trump to comment on Charlie Kirk's death has made such a nightmarish scenario a very real possibility.
>>2487960>I'm sure there will be another lieutenant in the TP ranks who grasps at the opportunity to make a name for himself. They're missing out on 13 years of name recognition however. And Trump has 4 years left before he has to hand on the torch, unless he's willing to enter the cool zone. And even then he might not make it that long.
>>2487969Not responding creates the impression their stances are uncontroversial.
>>2487820>Well in regard to your first point, if they're just launchers you can do that with Soviet meme equipment made of plywood. And further:You can do that too. But in general I think you also want a mix because you get different options to choose from, or you can get the aircraft off the ground faster and launch from wherever you want. Land-based missiles are slower to maneuver around, can be more vulnerable in some ways in comparison to an aircraft that is flying from a base hundreds of miles away. There's no kamikaze drone that can deliver a 1500-kilogram warhead that can blow away an entire position like this Russian air-launched missile.
>>2487820>Come on man you think there was an inordinate amount of planes falling off the carrier when everyone was on their best behavior?Well they were probably hauling ass. And a lot can go wrong on aircraft carriers. I've been on one. (It was at sea, not in port, and it wasn't an American one either.)
>Yes, which makes it concerning that Houthis ceased their attacks to such a degree. Why? I think they had America by the balls, but it's sounding like they relented.I think they relented when it comes to the attacks on shipping yeah because the U.S. was blowing up their shit, but they were very brave and saved face and the world moved on. I think the reality is that a lot of conflicts can end inconclusively. There's no way the U.S. military can remove the Houthis from power by bombing them. That can only be done on land by ground troops, but the political will does not exist for that in the United States.
>They have the power to bring the world to its kneesWell, no. Generally speaking, attacks against shipping lanes (even at choke points) divert traffic rather than stop traffic, causing temporary dislocation and a mild increase in costs. Houthi attacks certainly disrupted merchant traffic in the Red Sea and inflicted some degree of economic damage (felt most directly by Egypt btw) but most of the shipping traffic re-routed around South Africa, which doesn't matter that much because of the cost advantages of shipping over the sea compared to air and land is so extreme that it doesn't have much effect on maritime trade on the whole. The other thing I'll add is that large navies have pretty much always struggled to prevent attacks on shipping by small-scale naval forces since the Barbary Pirates.
>>2487878>I was thinking the other day of how Charlie Kirk was one of the few non-freak prominent rightoids. Bland. Banal. True. But also a family man who wasn't known as a disgusting sex pest, closeted homosexual, or pedophile degenerate. I thought it was funny how Radio War Nerd described him as having a grown-up Nickelodeon child actor vibe, which is something the older Evangelicals with money love. Like "ahh it's good to see clean-cut young people like him."
>>2487927Well those “libertarians”are retarded. Anarchism is individual freedom within social context. What you are mentioning is straight up irresponsibility.
Even communists don’t clearly understand libertarianism/anarchism. It’s not about doing whatever you want regardless of people around you. It’s about being free while respecting other people’s freedom. Which can only happen I everyone is free. No Gods nor Masters.
A credential system can and will exist within a stateless society
>>2488088>>2488093>>2488099The issue with normie liberals is a difficult one. But I think two things are true. (A) people are contradictory (b) they are usually in some process of change.
People are often, usually, in some kind of transition phase from one thing to another. What they're transitioning into might not be that great or even good, but it can be good in some way.
You can definitely find liberals online who will damn Palestinians out of spite from blowing the election. But my father is true-blue liberal Democrat. I'm talking about normie Reddit (he has a Reddit account) who unironically follows Jeff Tiedrich. He will vote for whoever the Democrats slam onto the ticket in 2028 with no questions asked. He will love it if Gavin Newsom is the nominee. But he has increasingly come to despise Israel and is about as brutal about Israel as most leftists would be. He also now says that socialism is a good thing. However, what he means by that is social democracy. (He likes Zohran.) He recently even said that MARXISM is good. I don't know how he came to that conclusion or what he thinks Marxism is, but that was striking to me. It makes me wonder what he's reading. I haven't talked about that with him in much detail yet, but our political chats tend to be short and pretty direct, not long-winded or philosophical. On the other hand, I've heard him use "communism" as a pejorative. You see what I mean by contradictory. I'll have to ask him some questions about that.
>>2487159lmao, this made me laugh
rest in piss charlie russian saboteur
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