/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2487462
/thread

>>2507402
>and songs by Eminem
Didn’t he grow up in a trailer park?

How is Eminem’s music not proletarian?

>>2507411
Ah yes, the return of "objective" beauty standards

>>2507608
8 mile is the name of the neighborhood he was from

>>2487462
Of course YOU posted something a glowie would post like every other thing you post.

Detroit and other Rust Belt cities are particularly severe cases due to the effects of globalization on the American manufacturing industry, but they're not the only ones and the reasons are more than just the changes to the industrial landscape. You also see it in cities like Jackson or Atlanta or Houston, any major city where you see the historical legacy white flight plain as day, urban areas falling to decay as Whitey cuts his losses and moves out to the suburbs.

So now you have this decayed urban city full of abandoned buildings falling to ruin and a bunch of poor black people standing around everywhere who are desperately looking for any work they can get. But they can't pick up hammers and drills and go fix up all those abandoned buildings and turn them into businesses or homes for their community and earn a decent paycheck for it, because that property doesn't belong to them. It still belongs to Whitey and he doesn't want to give it up, he's sitting on it and waiting for a miracle from heaven that will draw wealthy millions yuppie gentrifiers to the city and the property value will skyrocket and the black people will all go bye bye and Whitey can take back the city again. Until then, the inner city just sits and rots.

>>2507402
>muh socialist realism
Fuck off Maupin.

It's like, Detroit's industrial glory days are never coming back, this is the global economy and you can't reverse history, regardless of what Donald Trump might believe.

If you want Detroit to be a thriving community again, you simply give it to the indigenous inhabitants, the people who stayed in Detroit and didn't abandon their hometown. I think it's only fair that they get some kind of reward for their loyalty. Start a federal program to buy the abandoned properties from the bank and sell it to Detroit residents at very affordable rates, work with the zoning board to rezone appropriately, create an incentive for local residents to buy up all these abandoned land and turn it into businesses and apartments and neighborhoods, etc. Detroit is never going to be the giant industrial powerhouse megacity that it once was, but it could be a modest respectable town that is run and owned mostly by black people. And that's something America has never been able to abide.

>>2507741
Indigenous as in Native Americans, or the New Afrikans who overwhelmingly inhabit Detroit today?

>>2507748

Second one, I don't mean *that* indigenous, let's not get crazy now.

>>2507402
>Back in the 1930s, the city of Detroit (once dubbed the "Paris of America") was covered in beautiful socialist realist murals, all of them commissioned by FDR's administration. These murals glorified the working people of Detroit by portraying them as heroes.
Socialist Realism is gaudy kitsch shit.

Also, if that mural is of Detroit, why are all the workers white?

>Breathtaking old buildings have been demolished.
More like, their original owners left the city and had no use for them anymore, so they stuck around rotting until the city demolished them.

>Detroit music now consists of J Dilla "beat tapes" made by pushing buttons on a sampler and adding a distorted drum pattern,
Dilla was a classically-trained musician and his beats have been turned into classical music compositions.

>and songs by Eminem and Insane Clown Posse about hacking people to death.
Eminem pre-2010 is objectively good and ICP are proles whose juggalo fanbase is mostly made up of proles. Remember a few years ago when the FBI wanted to designate juggalos as a "gang" and leftists protested on the basis that doing so was an attack on the working-class?

>When you are surrounded by ugly art and music, you start to see the entire world as ugly, chaotic and confused. This causes you to start losing faith in your fellow man and creates an overall sense of nihilism and despair.
Beauty is a spook.

>and have public classical music concerts like they did in the Soviet Union.
They did that for state propaganda purposes. Most of that "Soviet classical music" was military anthems.

>BEAUTY will save Detroit before reindustrialization.
Beauty is a spook.

>>2507411
>"the political issues of the day can only be solved with the beautiful"
She has to be retarded.

>>2488150
>29:16
>Cop: you’re exploiting them
Did not expect that to come out of a cop lol

>>2507614
>>2507971
She’s making the same exact point Caleb Maupin makes every time he critiques Jackson Pollock and abstract expressionism, that without beauty in our lives we start to lose our sense of what it means to be human. Having a world deprived of beauty makes us animalistic and causes us to become insane.

I won’t go so far as to say Detroit being “ugly” is what keeps it in shambles but it certainly doesn’t help.

Juggalos are proles.

Prove me wrong.

>>2507992
yeah LUMPENproles maybe

>>2489138
>>2502981
A lot of pig brutality happens at gas stations.

>>2507992
mmwcl

>>2508034
police more gangsta than the perps

>>2507402
>Detroit music now consists of J Dilla "beat tapes" made by pushing buttons on a sampler and adding a distorted drum pattern, and songs by Eminem and Insane Clown Posse about hacking people to death.

>When you are surrounded by ugly art and music, you start to see the entire world as ugly, chaotic and confused. This causes you to start losing faith in your fellow man and creates an overall sense of nihilism and despair.

Hip hop began as a block party you mong.

>>2507402
are you the guy who spams those images about akai mpc samplers? if so please, please get a job

Many, many black people have been patiently waiting a very long time for their opportunity to step up and get their own piece of the American Dream. Detroit could be revitalized as a major black-run city full of black-owned businesses, it could attract more black entrepeneurs to invest in the project, it could attract arts and entertainment and tourism, you could turn Detroit into major cultural epicenter like New Orleans but even blacker.

>>2508071
>capitalism but make it black

Fuck off radlibs

Just relocate the population of Detroit and let Trump turn it into a villa.

>>2508071
The only good thing about this idea is that black ppl might realize capitalism is still shitty even when a majority of their people own the businesses.

>>2507966
>Socialist Realism is gaudy kitsch shit.

Look at these two paintings. Which one makes you feel a sense of love and solidarity with your fellow worker?

Now which one makes you feel angry, resentful, confused and chaotic?

>Beauty is a spook.

False on all accounts. Beauty is what makes us human. It’s what gives us morality and a stake in bettering our world.

Beauty is also the language of socialism. The Soviet Union created beautiful art and music. China creates beautiful art and music. Go to any major Chinese city and you won’t see graffiti anywhere. You won’t see abstract expressionist “art” anywhere either. You will see art that uplifts the human spirit and celebrates the working people as heroes.

China also bans hip hop. Why? Because real socialism isn’t about celebrating the gutter. Hip hop and punk were both CIA-funded and promoted for the exact same reason the CIA funded and promoted Jackson Pollock a few decades prior.

In real socialism, musically-gifted Black boys in Detroit wouldn’t be using their talents through pushing buttons on a sampler. Rather, they would be sent to elite musical academies where they would learn to compose symphonies. White boys living in trailer parks, similarly, would be taken out of the trailer park and sent to elite schools where they could channel their talents for writing lyrics into beautiful art forms that serve the working-class. There is no logical reason why genuine leftists should support such low end “art” and “music” when we can turn to socialist art and music for real inspiration.

>>2508623
>no graffiti
Their loss

>>2507966
>Socialist Realism is gaudy kitsch shit.
Nah. AI slop generators still can't make something like this without hundreds of obvious errors.

>>2487365
Just bomb detroit to the ground, expel whoever survives to south america and let trump turn into into a riviera for jewish settlers

>>2508066
Most of hip hop is money laundering. How can producers charge thousands of dollars for a beat it took them 15 minutes to make? Plus a lot of rappers like Lil Durk, Young Thug and Playboi Carti are openly gang affiliated so you know their “careers” are merely fronts for gang activity.

>>2508072

Isn't that always the way? When black people want to invest in the real estate market and get a piece of the pie, white people are like "sorry, we're marxists now, we're not doing capitalism anymore"

>>2503380
learn to sit back and ooobserve… not everything needs a reaction

>>2487365
>”why can’t black people in America submit to the Chinese/Russians?”
Because they don’t want to, idiot.

>Detroit music now consists of J Dilla "beat tapes" made by pushing buttons on a sampler and adding a distorted drum pattern

If it's that easy I strongly suggest you drop an album as excellent as Donuts. Millions of dollars in steaming all for 'pressing a few buttons on a sampler'

Idiot

If you genuinely think you can make a good hip hop beat in 15 minutes you're completely fucked in the head, also see >>2510815 which was meant to reply to your original post

>>2510815
>>2510816
Damn I'm 0/2 here. Meant for
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>>2510815
i mean i dont fully agree with them but popularity is manufactured by advertising so you need connections and funding

>>2507402
What’s the point of covering Detroit in socialist realism if there’s no industrial jobs?

>>2510973
That's as true of any musical genre as hip hop beat production, and his cited example, J Dilla, was an underground producer who gained his fame due to prominent rappers recognising his excellence and wanting to work with him, as well as word of mouth and the internet following his death

>>2511234
yeah its true of any media really

>>2507411
Heh

China has better things to do than to fix a city that should be America's responsibility.

>>2524335
What a great noticing. Noticed.

Why didn't Superman prevent the Holocaust?

They shouldn't do that. No gibs for the yankees.

wasnt there some chinaman lynched in detroit in the 90s?
its like hitler asking stalin for funds to rebuild his bunker in 1945.

What's stopping America from helping China? A lack of class consciousness and human solidarity among the 99%. And of course the 1% - the capitalists - don't give a shit, because why would they do something unless it directly materially benefits them? Worldwide suffering can only be stopped by worldwide collective action.
>>2524339
Unfortunately superheroes, like most media, are a byproduct of the pro-capitalism zeitgeist so they are never really written with enough nuance to even begin to address the world's problems. The closest you get are indie stories or liberal apologia "I can't solve humanity's problems for them" as if somehow stopping crimes doesn't contradict that https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Superman-Peace-on-Earth

>>2487365
>What’s stopping China from helping Detroit?
Americans.