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LEFTYBRITPOL GENERAL

Fat Scouse Edition
Another shitty thread for the Shitty Isles, for the naive Sultanah glazers, for the Jesus Corbyn worshippers, for the Nigel Farage enjoyers.

New thread new reminder that Zultanass is a vile opportunistic narcissistic wrecker

We are witnessing the century of British humiliation…

>>2494320
may it last

>>2492846
This paints such a sad empty existence :(
Why does he stay with his girlfriend if he hates her? Is this a common British dynamic? Is this just what straight relationships are like?

>>2492920
I get that, but using idpol after the membership debacle (where money was involved) raises red flags for me.
Also, it would've been better to say that, rather than use idpol buzzwords.

Still shows that Sultana should've just kept the party with her and Corbyn, so they could have been on more equal footing.

>>2494284
>OP
Imagine being so obsessed with trying to shit up a leftist forum full of people who don't like you.
Get a life.

Are the Amish the best example of a functional communism?

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>>2494467
>Still shows that Sultana should've just kept the party with her and Corbyn, so they could have been on more equal footing.
A party cannot have 2 leaders especially from different factional wings. Politics is about power and politicians are all egotists. Co-Leadership always ends in factional shitfighting.
Any leftist party should be structured as pic related.
Not that YourParty is anything more than a vehicle for shitlib activists who basically have 99.9% the exact same positions as the greens so will just be fighting over the same voterbase while Reform march into power.

>>2494842

Oh no good heavens not [democracy option c] how awful, we should stick with [democracy option b].

It's the same bunch regardless.

>>2494842
Lovely how the PLA is shown as this small little thing in the illustration as if it couldin't shoot them all by orders of the president.

>>2494848
it cannot
your brain is affected by Eton rot

>>2494921
Why are you obsessed with my country? isn't that a bit pathetic. I don't even know where your gay little island is yet you spend all your time thinking about mine. very sad.

>>2494938
He was right to call you out as a brainwashed bonglander. Seethe harder.

>>2494817
The Amish are the opposite of historically progressive

>>2494946
So is that a yes?


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>>2494945
obsessed.

>>2494938
calling out your GBNews level understanding of China =/= being obsessed

Its got so bad in this thread I cant actually tell who is a retard and who isn't, so I have to assume everyone is a retard.

>>2494972
including yourself?

>>2494948
Can you name a better one? I don't think old Carl had progressiveness high on his agenda did he?

>>2494817
they could be seen as primitive communist societies (since marx admitted of various communities having patriarchy like they do with the amish), but marx's modern communism is based on individuals being deraccinated from traditional bonds (capitalism melting everything into air) before there can be a negation of negation.

>>2494842
>china.gif
>2 leaders
>flagfag
Then set everything up before hand between the two.
I don't care, i was already replying for another anon reply.

>>2494981
>modern communism
See footnote 1, page 1 of his book.

>>2495021
which book?

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There's no way this shit isn't generated by AI

>>2495028
sauce?

>>2495028
Fuck Marcus Rashford. That assholes ruined so many weekends for me.


Richard Tice is such a gross fascist weirdo, everything about him screams demonic evil intent, how can people not see all the fucking Hitler particles his aura exudes?


>>2495028
Why is "black" capitalised but "white" is lowercase?

>>2495048
Do you feel discriminated against?

Wes Streeting has announced today he's working with the government on creating legislation to ban both MtF and FtM individuals from women's spaces, proclaiming that trans people will have to use mythical "third spaces" which these people don't seem to understand only exist in the south of England and university cities.
Furthermore, Streeting called the existence of trans individuals in single sex spaces "unpleasant" and that the segregation of trans people would be based on "respect" and "empathy".
Eagerly awaiting our resident cis female pro-ana ban evading China flag poster to celebrate this development.

>>2495053
Prefer not to say

>>2495048
makes you think.

>>2495044
>My idea of patriotism isn’t about flags, nor is it about nostalgia for a past that never really existed. It’s about caring enough for this country to want to make it better now. It’s about clean streets and safe neighbourhoods. About helping your elderly neighbours with their shopping. About lifting a stranger’s suitcase up the train station stairs. About making sure that multinational corporations pay their fair share of tax to fund our NHS, schools and infrastructure. About taking back control of our water, rail, mail and electricity, so they serve the British public, not boardrooms and shareholders. About decent public services for everyone who needs them.
https://hyphenonline.com/2025/09/24/st-george-cross-union-jack-flag-patriotism-british-identity-history/
such metropolitan banality. and later, his national identity is pure consumerism: footie teams and chicken shops innit? thats what england means.

>>2495028
What's wrong with this? Do you not like civic nationalism?

>>2495125
when you think of england, what do you think of?

>>2495140
chippy chips and norf face bruv

neema parvini exposes right-wing populism as a zionist program

>>2495022
The big red book of out-of-date hogwash


But seriously, is it like a religion where you have different holy texts?

>>2495246
england is dying and you are busy talking shit
save the country

>>2495246
incoherence.

>>2495284
I'm talking about Carl's big red book. Look at page one chapter one footnote 1. It basically acknowledges that it is out of date. I.e it's not modern. That's what we call a slam dunk

>>2495265
All you have is pithy bait

>>2495125
>What's wrong with this?
This is an identity that's only really appeared in the past 10-20 years and to frame it as "this is how things have always been" is just blatantly subversive.
>Do you not like civic nationalism?
No. To be English you need to have at least some English ancestry, I think that's widely accepted. You can be any race and British though, as that is a political identity rather than a cultural and racial one.

>>2495048
its a weird new editorial standard from a few years or so back. i dont really get it either

>>2495313
I didn’t know England is an ethostate ?

Greens are quickly back to being liberal
>pro NATO
>pro rejoining EU

>>2495467
Video with audio this time

>>2495467
>>2495474
no surprise here

>>2495048
why is 'ough' in 'though' pronounced 'oh' but the 'ough' in 'through' pronounced 'ooh'?

>>2495313
if we could separate london from england, the national situation would become more understandable

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>How Israeli operatives took control of UK Labour Party, by criminal means…

>Keir Starmer's Chief of Staff Morgan McSweeney used £730,000 of illegally undeclared donations to fund a campaign to bring down Jeremy Corbyn and elect Keir Starmer as Labour Leader.


>This Scandal Could Bring Down The Government:


>>2496019
<Another instance of total bourgeois capture of a leftoid party by capitalists who have interests aligned with Israel
>this is le international jewish conspiracy! ZOG!
I'm tired boss

>>2496123
>It's Isra
<BLAMING IT ALL ON THE JEWS ARE WE?
This is what's actually tiring.

>>2495046
How will the nail salons of Essex hire illegal Vietnamese girls if they don't have digital ID!?

>>2496156
>It's Isra
But it's not, that's the thing, it's some fucking capitalists who gave that money to push their interests with one among them being involved with Israel trough "Labour Friend of Israel" which already made up a quarter of Labour MPs in 2020 five years ago long before Starmer. It's hardly like (((israel operatives))) took control of the party, this kind of discourse is conspiratard class obfuscation. But I checked and this guy commenting looks like the bong version of Blumenthal, which makes sense as to why this tweet looks like glow in the dark grift journalism.

fuck this digital ID shit, i'm swapping to a dumb phone and snaping the physical card in half

>>2494284
Britain needs a new Edward I, if you lads know what I'm saying

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its over for keith, time to feel the burnham

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>>2495055
>Eagerly awaiting our resident cis female pro-ana ban evading China flag poster to celebrate this development.
I will. This is exactly the sort of policy that should have been adopted long ago and solves many of the brazen material manifestations of gender Idpol. Even gays are sick of this shit.
I, along with most Gender Critical people, have always held the position that a Legalized Non-Binary third gender is a perfectly fine compromise to accomidate schizos.
(Pro-ana) nope, I just love pointing out the hypocrisy that a different manifestation of largely the same dysphoria is bad because of nothing more than aesthetic reasons, the same as Transracial. It's just an extension of "White dudes with Dreadlocks are literally Hitler" of 2018.
>>2495467
Any members led left wing party in the UK will have these positions because to the shitlib "MUH NATO" and "MUH REMOAN" are 2 of the core planks of their ideology along with Gender idpol and Open Borders.
>>2496019
Israel lobby started it's take over of the Labour Right in 2016 as Jeremy Newmark returned from being a shill in Israel and reorganized the largely defunct JLM with the express purpose of taking down the Labour Left and Corbyn.
Jon Lansman also was the Zionist mole in who had wormed his way up the left to control Momentum, then used Momentum to spread "muh antisemitism" allegations against it's own members and Corbyn. Pic related, here's your Momentum leadership lads.

Are they stupid or do they just think we're stupid? Anyone with two braincells can see that this won't stop anyone from working illegally.

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>>2496593
I mean, British politics is literally run on huge levels of class contempt. Blairites are Blairites because they are typically petite-bourgiousie who had working class backgrounds, and were able to successfully transition into small business/7 figure income tyrants, so they think they deserve to enter the same old boy clubs and networks as the Tories, but they get knocked back because here in the UK, elite is more than just money, but class revolves around Class Bloodline theory like it did with the Baohuang Pai during the Cultural Revolution. This is why Alan Sugar is one of the most rich British people to have ever have existed, but he's still barred from all the old boy networks and isn't invited to their Child Sex murder orgies, because of his Working Class/Tradie background.
So Blairites hate the tories because they think they are incompetent nepobabies and they hate the working class because "if came from an estate and am on a 7 figure income because I was smart enough to do to Oxbridge and jump into a City of London job, then poor people are only poor because they are fucking stupid and lazy".
UK Centrism/Blairism is cultural middle class seething and yes, they think everyone below them is a grade A retard and they are the "adults in the room". It doesn't help the working class as well when they fall for such obvious grifts as Rightoid Brexit and Reform, or that the British left is a fucking clownshow of the worst of the worst of student politics infighting and "empathy politics" over serious statecraft.
That is kind of the ideological tragedy of Blairites, they are genuinely from working class backgrounds, they were the smartest of the working class, they got scholarships to Oxbridge and they got brainwashed into the Neoliberal pieces of shit they are today where the only issue with the Tories is that they are incompetent Nepobabies, and the job of the Blairites is to do Toryism "but competently", except it turns out Starmer is less competent than Sunak, May, Johnson and Cameron.

>>2496635
tory: ruling class
labour: middle class
reform: underclass

no one exists for the working class

>>2496593
I can’t see id cards being popular. I almost wonder if it’s deliberate to tank Sir Kier even further and give Reform a boost, and set the path open for a replacement. A bit like Rishi Sunak’s bizarre drive to bring back conscription. Maybe he really believed in it, but I can’t see how that was supposed to appeal to anybody except a few pensioners and colonel blimps, and give Labour a little boost and finish the Tories.

>>2496607
Yes posting this shit IS Cringy.

>>2495028
Guy who wrote this; Taj Ali, I have a lot of time for as one of the few active Trade Unionists today who actually have vision, but yeah this is postmodernist slop.

>>2496639
Labour Right have entered their "We're fucked next election" mode and have just turned to pushing all their unpopular bullshit that nobody wants but has been on their wishlist for decades while throwing dodgy PFI/PPP contracts at their mates.
It's the same with Sunak after his leadership didn't turn the polls around and they just turned to "loot the country before we are kicked out" mode.
The Labour right expect they will get coup'ed in the leadup too, or after the local elections. They probably even expect relalitatory purges from Burnham though I don't expect the soft left to have that sort of backbone.

>>2496580
You are not gender critical. Your whole life is built around coming here to seethe about people not correctly presenting according to their assigned gender.
This is not gender critical. This is gender reinforcing.
Peak retardation.

Kneekcap won, again.

MOOOODS remove the schizo please.
>>2496682
Go outside you yank freak. lmao.

>>2496682
>china flag concerned with egg_irl
good lord almighty…

>>2496683
Why cry to mods, I have many gay friends and this is literally what most of them are saying. If you interacted with trans people at any point in your life you'd know this guy is onto something.

>>2496711
Anon, i've known trans people before this whole sorry culture war was concocted, before any of your autistic subreddits were invented and probably before you were politically conscious.
shut the fuck up.

Dude, you just dropped your digital ID…

Daily reminder that mass immigration is a pro capitalist policy that drives down wages, destroys working class solidarity, eliminates support for the welfare state and creates a fascist reaction. It's a win-win-win-win for the ruling class. There's a reason the old communist parties opposed immigration before all the parties were thoroughly taken over by opportunists and revisionists. China has 1/50th the immigration rate of the UK.

I cannot put into words my burning hatred for Starmer without likely breaking several laws

>>2496772
keep calm and trust the Zultanagenda

Digital ID wouldn't have stopped Axel Rudakubana nor would it have stopped Salman Abedi. This has nothing to do with making Britain a safer and more secure country.

>>2496784
we already live in a digital ID world: instagram, snapchat, WhatsApp, twitter etc

>>2496786
I don't use any of them other than WhatsApp, which just has my given name and phone number.

>>2496786
Have mandatory state ID in order to live an ordinary life, work, etc, is NOTHING alike to optionally having an anonymous Xitter account. There is nothing in common.

The face of the Reform UK youth vote?

>>2496784
why are you going on and on and on about this thing?

>>2496784
It’s so they can give all the data to Palantir and Peter Thiel’s Matrix on his quest to search for the anti christ. and a lot of fat contracts and money to be made.

>>2496801
Are you fine with unknown megacorps and the state having/selling all your personal data, tracking your location, limiting your access to work and who knows what else, mandating you carry digital ID just to exist in modern society? All at the behest of Blair and Starmer's wet dreams?
This is the stuff of Fascism, of some cyberpunk dystopian nightmare.

>>2496801
That was actually my first post about it.

>>2496805
they do that already m8. just don't use it.
jfc it's not that complicated.

>>2496800
>british patriot
>glorifies N*poleon, Roman scum, Shitalian and Germanoid 'musicians'
SHAME

>>2496805
>>2496803
>>2496793
>>2496792
>>2496784
Zultana and JeZZa will defeat them
keep calm and carry on


>>2496807
>just don't use it.
They have already stated you will not be able to have a legal job without using it.
Of course if you work an illegal job, it's not like they're going to ask to see your digital ID so they can ensure you're working your illegal job legally is it?
So it's already entirely useless except for control, surveillance, data collection, and allowing Palantir or whoever the fuck else they pay to manage the data.
Why are you so adamant on defending this?

>>2496811
I will follow her career with great interest.

The petition on the UK government petitions website for stopping digital ID cards has jumped from 10k signatures to 100k in the past 2 weeks, and from 100k to 1 million signatures in the past 4 days.

>>2496679
How do they keep on getting away with it.

Big government database full of brown people, trans people, autistic people on lists, managed by Palantir at the taxpayers expense, and Reddit and half of this thread is cheering for it

>>2496864
>Big government database full of brown people
Half of the current front bench is brown, including the Home Secretary.

>>2496881
Compradors

>>2496881
And there were also numerous homosexuals and Jews working for the NSDAP

to be fair to digital ID, all that is being said is that already-existing and required legal documents such as birth certificates and national insurance will be recorded on a national database. its a way of making the state more efficient in what it ALREADY does (for example, i once tried to blag off police on the train by giving a fake address and they clocked on cos they have a database of all names and addresses in the country - simply searching on the national database would make legal processes more proficient in their inevitable task). there is no precedent in the policy then, so the reaction against it is excessive. no, i am not making excuses for any lack of privacy and the like but just seeing how this can only make things better, not worse, than what we currently have. and as people have suggested, what people are really anxious about is NOT illegal immigration, but UNSKILLED LEGAL migration:
>More than half (65%) of the increase in the UK population between 2004 and 2023 was due to the direct contribution of net migration. Since 2020, almost all of the growth in the population has come from net migration.
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-impact-of-migration-on-uk-population-growth/
the idea of national ID tackling illegal immigration is a red herring which takes away from the larger issue. you solve this by restricting visa application by higher gradients of income, which blair did back in 2003 but what reform are planning to do in 2029. nothing ever happens, as they say, since we're just correcting the errors of the last 20-odd years, under tory incompetence and malice. a patriotic "revolution" and "civil war" literally just means two sides of blairism. cool britannia.
>>2496864
>i DEFINITELY care about minorities, guys…

>>2496892
This equivalency would make sense if Von Ribbentrop was a Pole and Goering a member of the Rothschild family lmao

>>2496899
I am literally a minority you cisoid crakkker freak

>>2496899
Those are not mistakes, allowing massive numbers of immigrants was in order to suppress wages, divide the population and dismantle the welfare. They already achieved 1 and 2, now Reform will do 3, so they no longer need immigration (as much) anymore. In the future if need be they will turn the tap back on. The same thing happens in basically every western capitalist country.

>>2496919
>i am a minority therefore i care about minorities
im glad youve internalised tokenism for yourself
>>2496923
well we can see that the boriswave was directly caused by the tories messing with the immigration points system and changing the validity of visas through lowering salaries - indeed, it was a tactic of suppressing wages, as we may even read here:
>Illegal migrant crackdown risks pushing up takeaway prices, warns Uber
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/09/05/illegal-migrant-crackdown-risks-pushing-up-takeaway-prices/
its quite brazen here.

drumpf is also doing the same thing btw. he wants mass deportations but also says that farms need cheap slave labour to keep the economy going.

>>2496938
>being a minority who doesn't want to be placed on a state/corporate controlled list of minorities means you have "internalised tokenism"
pull your head out your arse you Blairite schizo, what the hell is wrong with you?

>>2497079
>list of minorities
the ID is for everyone, not just (you).

>>2497117
Starmer is going to put all brown people in concentration camps and shoot them it's obvious if you're mentally ill enough to see it.

>>2497149
he has already opened the camps (hotels) and is scattering them into HMOs in the norf. the patriots shot themselves in the foot on that one.

>>2497117
Do not care. The ID will list identifying characteristics. These details will be on a digital database.
I'm not having the details about my life on a database operated by Peter Thiel and Palantir or by the Tony Blair Institute.
Nobody should want that, especially not minorities. Do you want Palantir to have a list of every black, immigrant, or trans person on these islands?
That is literally what you have spent the day defending.

>>2497149
It doesn't matter if Starmer does nothing with the data and keeps it all secure.
What about when Reform win the next election? Do you trust them with the data on who is an immigrant, who is LGBT, etc?

YANK DICKHEAD SHOCKED TO DISCOVER THAT YOUNG ENGLISH AREN'T WEIRD ETHNONATIONALISTS LIKE AMERICANS

>>2497209
>why are you MAD bro? 💀 did i ragebait you, huh? 😂
<pans to the calmest bloke on earth who has healthy disagreemrent 🫤🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
yanks live in a sensationalised reality

>>2497209
>muh ancestors built this country

>>2497200
the government already have your stats
dw mate they dgaf about (you), or me either

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>>2497220
The ancestors that built Britain;

>>2497220
i wonder what people built amerikkka? 👀


>>2496800
would tbh

>>2497225
I thought Windrush built Britain what is this white-washing shit

>>2497229
I can respect that.

Now Blair wants to be the ruler of Gaza as a loyal puppet of MAGA and Israel. Truly his evil knows no limits, no end to it's depths.

>>2497298
>he doesn't know

>>2497309
Hamas have the chance to do something very funny

>>2497209
>can't be saying that surely
lmao. lad.

>>2496635
>Class Bloodline theory
Yeah the self-image of the elite generates racism, no matter how genetically similar the population is. Here is a half-hour talk by Edmund Griffiths about 19th century British white-on-white racism.

>>2497386
"Race is more than skin colour" is such a loaded statement and just deflecting it as silly kinda ruins his argument. You KNOW that guy wanted to get into autism score tests.

>>2497521
White on white racism?
Dont you mean just good old classism?

You won't be a racist if you live in a working class area because these are the places where there's a lot of diversity. It's only in the middle class areas where there's no diversity, or the places where there's no jobs and its the middle of nowhere where people have no outlet for their frustration other than taking the bus down to the asylum "hotel" (concentration camp).

The discussion we should be having is not about work permits, but about how we can deport the psychopathic Zionists who get away with robbing millions.


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The Hans Zimmer music makes the whole video seem so ominous. I know it's only supposed to make you think of the Far Right guys as the ominous ones, but a lot of the shots of Britain seem ominous with the music. Maybe it's because I've been primed by all the Brit dystopian flicks to always see the British government as evil and authoritarian(1984, V for Vendetta, Children of Men, Clockwork Orange, etc.)

Makes him sound like he's the villain giving the speech over that music.

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Redpill me on Britcard.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LabourUK/comments/1nr3ije/is_it_fair_to_not_trust_what_corbyn_says_about/
Once again, British "leftists" putting "self-id" gender idpol ahead of any actual fucking class or economic positions while wrecking the UK left's most popular figure over it.
Lmao every fucking time.
>>2497209
I understand the spirit of what he is asking but he's retarded. It's that would you support and england team where everyone is imported non-british Africans that wins over a english team of natives that losers.
The issue with football is all these teams are filled with people who aren't even from the UK or France or whatever, playing in national teams because players are bought and traded like they are being human trafficked.
>>2496899
The system is perfectly fine if it was handled inhouse by the Government. Palantir's literal fucking name is Palantir ffs. It's literally Thiel mocking retarded politicians for handing over everyone's documents to a company that is quite literally, when translated to english: "The spy device of a demonic evil dark lord"

>>2497715
Pro-ana TERF ban evader is awake at 4 am to complain about trans people on an anonymous leftist internet forum…….
BTW Corbyn isn't a magic dem-soc grandpa we all need to hero worship. If it were up to him alone you can be 99% certain there would not be any party even announced yet, if ever.
He is well meaning but slow and ineffective. He won't lead but also won't step to the sidelines.
If he wants be a leader, then great, he'll be a great attractor to the party, but he has to actually commit to doing it and putting in the hard graft.
and no, I will not vote for an anti-LGBT rights landlord just because le friendly allotment guy is on his side.

>>2497634
We have no money, so now we're offering ourselves up as a test subject for the US tech industry to try out computerised governance with needing to provide digital ID for all transactions offline and online, sacking as much of the public sector as possible to replace them with AI, probably the next thing will be CryptoSterling so every digital pound spent has a traceable ID that can be associated with every mandatory wallet its ever been in, of course it's all to prevent the small boats though.

That being said, that may result in reduced illegal immigration from places of less development where their locals prefer the freedom that allows in comparison, however we need to prepare ourselves for the flood of ironic Cyberpunk 2077 and Bladerunner fans that will come to experience computerised dystopia.

>>2497622
>you cant be racist if you live in a diverse area
you sure about that?

>>2497622
Diverse areas concur the most racism as minorities are pittied against each other like a warzone

>>2497209
why would he even post that? surely just wait until you find someone who agrees with you?

>>2497784
>He is well meaning

Not even sure I agree with that after the last couple weeks


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>>2497911
IDK but he took his tiktok down after it.

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There's an anonymous Wikipedia editor who prolifically and almost exclusively edits Wikipedia pages related to paedophiles in order to downplay or obfuscate their involvement in sex crimes.
The same account has also been obsessively editing Labour party related pages including editing Peter Mandelson's, Starmer's, and Andy Burnham's page with verifiably false information to make Mandelson and Starmer look good.
Now would you happen to guess where that IP address is located? None other that Downing Street itself.
Of course, this doesn't tell us who in Downing Street is responsible, but someone in the building is trying to make Labour and the Starmer faction look good, delete Mandelson's links to paedophiles, and spread misinformation about the Epstein case.
Will the government admit to this? Will it make the news? It should, but I don't have the power to make it happen.

>>2498053
Fuck I don't know why the images came out so low quality, you can see their edits yourself here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/209.93.85.118

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>>2498057
Why is someone from the Downing Street IP address editing articles about P Diddy?

>>2498066
very very strange but
not unsurprising. unless im reading the map wrong, the IP isn't actually in Downing Street? but near charing cross? there are smaller buildings with offices for private finance and consultancy firms. it could easily be a private glow agency cut out with a small office there doing this.

>>2498092
Yeah you're right. Sorry I am pretty retarded and clearly not the person who originally noticed this.
If you go to their contributions page however you can see them editing pages about the Labour party and about paedophiles still in real time.

>>2496809
They're going to split. Corbyn doesn't seem to have much of an interest in leading a party anymore, and he hasn't been shy about shitting on Sultana in the press. Plus he's surrounded himself with the same people that forced him to cave to the antisemitism allegations back in 2019, and they all want Sultana out because she has explicitly said that she's anti-zionist.

Every party with elected officials in the north of Ireland has come out against digital ID. Finally something to unite all sides…
The Unionists claim it's an assault on civil liberties and the right to privacy, a massive overreach of state surveillance.
The Republicans say they refuse to use something called a "Brit card" on principle, and also legally can't be required to comply with having one as per the Good Friday Agreement since they are recognised as being Irish citizens too.

Has the British Jewry turned on Starmer?

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POV: You're Jeremy Corbyn

George Galloway has been arrested on unknown charges.

>>2498288
Steve Laws and now Galloway within the space of a few days…. something is going on lids

>>2498092
>not unsurprising. unless im reading the map wrong, the IP isn't actually in Downing Street? but near charing cross? there are smaller buildings with offices for private finance and consultancy firms. it could easily be a private glow agency cut out with a small office there doing this.
>>2498066
>Why is someone from the Downing Street IP address editing articles about P Diddy?
Most likely just a private PR firm hired to do this. That's the obvious reason someone would be working on behalf of both the Labour party and P Diddy.

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https://www.bristol247.com/news-and-features/news/hundreds-march-bristol-solidarity-with-trans-community/
Hundreds march through Bristol in solidarity with trans community
>Hundreds gathered in solidarity with Bristol’s trans community on College Green, before marching through the city centre on Saturday afternoon.

>The march is one of many the city has seen since a Supreme Court ruling in April concluded that the legal definition of a woman is only based on their biological sex and not their acquired sex.


>Alongside chants in support of the trans community, the crowd also rallied support for Palestine and the ongoing conflict in Gaza.


>Placards demonstrating the spirit of pro-trans rights supporters were held high as the crowd made its way through the city towards Broadmead.


>One such placard read: “Fuck cops. Arm trans women.”


>Addressing the crowd before the rally, one speaker said: “Our work will not be over until the political and economic systems that facilitate and necessitate the destruction of free thought and identity are themselves destroyed.


>“It will not be over until we are organised. We are seeing movements across the world that are successfully bringing about change.


>“They are demonstrating the destructive and constructive force that is generated when large groups of people cooperate and dream of a different future.


>“It is possible, it works and we can do it too.”

>>2498369
>“Fuck cops. Arm trans women.”
so these lot are pro-gun then?

>>2498369
yea, they do this semi-regularly here.
Are you trying to trigger our resident schizo by any chance?

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>>2498375
Absolutely fucking based if true

>>2498375
A lot of left-wing queers in Britain are heavily Americanised so very possibly. It is a judgement-neutral statement.

>>2498490
Good, it’s about time British people owned guns

UK detained George Galloway under the counter terrorism act

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20e4ge36e6o

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>>2498806
Lol, lmao even

>>2498806
the silencing of anti-zionists continues
>>2498813
of course a stalinist would support israel

>>2498496
and america also needs to preserve its first and second ammendments from trumpstein

Blue Labour is literally just zionism for white people but with jews still at the helm for some reason.

>>2499127
semites on the "left" (arab muslims)
semites on the right (zionist jews)

which way, western man?

>>2498375
Always have been

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>I refer to your freedom of information request which we received on 30 January 2022 requesting the
>following information.

>Dear NHS National Services Scotland,

>when do you plan to implement quantum scientific technology med beds that are currently on the market for public use?

>I can advise you that we have now completed the search of our records and can provide you with the following information:

>Under Section 17 of the Freedom of Information Scotland Act an organisation does not require to
provide information if it does not hold that information. NHS National Services Scotland does not hold
this information. I would recommend you contact individual health boards who may hold this
information locally.

https://www.nss.nhs.scot/media/3148/foi-000027-quantum-scientific-med-beds.pdf

>>2499173
schizos rise up!!!

>>2499127
It's so funny its catholics and jews orientalising English Anglicans. I grew up an Anglican and most of the shit they talk about the "social church" is a fucking lie.

RCP released a youtube video claiming "uhm ahckchually Trump and MAGA aren't fascists it's not scientific to call them that please don't use big scary words"
Meanwhile the orange fuck is abducting civilians off the street, putting people in camps in the Florida swamps/ Central America without charges, is actively funding and promoting genocide, is labeling opposition to capitalism and religion as "terrorism indicators"
Why do these British Trotskyite morons think they're achieving by downplaying the situation? Their smarmy smug ass claims their analysis is scientific and therefore perfect is a total fucking joke.

>>2499514
Their strategy is explicitly "first them, then us" which is kinda funny.

>>2499897
Critical support to MAGA in their jihad against shitlibs
After them, us
Thälmann vor allen, Thälmann ist niemals geffalen

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The best thing for the UK and it’s “proletariat” is to sink to the bottom of the Atlantic

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>>2495073
>My idea of patriotism isn’t about flags, nor is it about nostalgia for a past that never really existed. It’s about caring enough for this country to want to make it better now. It’s about clean streets and safe neighbourhoods. About helping your elderly neighbours with their shopping. About lifting a stranger’s suitcase up the train station stairs. About making sure that multinational corporations pay their fair share of tax to fund our NHS, schools and infrastructure. About taking back control of our water, rail, mail and electricity, so they serve the British public, not boardrooms and shareholders. About decent public services for everyone who needs them.

Anyone else keep finding giant house spiders?
My bedroom is off limits until further notice, I've had two of the bastards this week alone and the latest practically crawled up right next to me and launched itself at me.
This country needs to do something, right NOW…

>>2500487
That’s not a nice thing to say, comrade Felix.

They're going to kill him for this.

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>>2500805
You don't have to imagine when you have this dawkins dude in front of you

>>2500805
Based signs, fuck Dawkins


>>2500805
>Le toxic masculinity

>>2500805
AGPs always have to ruin it for the HSTS 😢

>>2500805
This is why white people shouldn't transition.

>>2500881
SPEAK ENGLISH

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>>2500917
The majority of this has to do with class relations. HSTS are overwhelmingly from the third world while AGP are from the first world and bourgeois or petty bourgeois. The only way to produce an organic culture would be to slash the exploitation of woman in the third world and the elimination of the bourgeoise as a class. There is also many stigmas regarding transitioning in the first world that don't exist in the third world which cause these conditions as well.

>>2500917
>>2500946
Where do you get this shit from?

>>2500978
/tttt/
>>2500946
its just a basic clash of civilisations

>>2500978
My own person research. Understanding class and material conditions is what broke me out of the /tttt/ prison.

>>2500917
HSTS are valid, AGPs are valid, you are valid

>>2500991
>/tttt/
You, in the year of our lord 2025, are getting your political theory from 4chan??
>>2501001
Research where exactly? I want to see the point of origin of your "theory".
>>2501012
>“Do you believe that male-bodied people with a penis should have the right to undress in front of women and young girls?”
I take it you have never been to a Sauna?

>>2501012
IDK, not sure why people are so histrionic about bodies anyways. If someone is clearly getting off in a public space they should be asked to leave, but also better if private spaces are available to change anyway.

>>2501110
>2025
i havent been on /tttt/ since 2018
but in that time i read "men trapped in men's bodies" about autogynephilia

>>2501115
And what exactly was compelling about it?

Labour Conference, at the LGBT+ Labour event last night.
Bridget Phillipson and Lucy Powell both had 30 minute disco slots.
They reintroduce section 28, repealed trans people's legal recognition and rights, now they are ready to partyyyy.
Just goes to show the rich elite gays will continue to get piss drunk and go to camp drag & disco events without any thoughts or cares about the situation of ordinary LGBT people face…

>>2501168
The event was literally called "Camp and Furnace", which is exactly where they want to put trans people.

>>2501132
it was written by an autogynephile who studies similar phenomena and brain science to decipher the cause of the symptom.

Is there any hope for turning the petite bourgeoisie and the lumpenproletariat away from fascism / Reform UK at this stage?
Is there any functional strategy to deradicalise these classes? Or must we face them in bloody revolutionary warfare?

>>2501187
why are you acfing like reform isnt just the tories 2.0?

>>2501191
Because they aren't. They're further to the right and they directly target the lumpenproletariat, something the Tories would never do.
They are pushing for cultural Americanisation and building a British MAGA movement out the lumpens in addition to courting the traditionally small business Hitlerite petite bourgeoisie.
Meanwhile the Tories target the financial elites, upper classes, upper-middle classes, farmers, and aristocracy. It's a different demographic.

>>2501197
>theyre further to the right
how?

>>2501200
Their policies, their rhetoric, basically everything? Maybe try reading both parties policies and statements and comparing them?
Tories maybe be very right wing and evil but they don't deny vaccines.
Tories want to deport refugees and asylum seekers but not all people with citizenship who weren't born here too.
Tories may support MAGA in the US but they don't want to MAGAfy British culture.
There's a clear distinction. It's not my job to educate morons.

>>2500917
I ain't reading all that shit, Free Palestine

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Lads there's a slagocrat on big brother

>>2501234
She's a 3am 10/10.

>>2501208
by "right wing" i assume you mean re-establishing sensible pre-brexit policies concerning immigration? you must love what boris johnson's done to the country.
>Maybe try reading both parties policies and statements and comparing them?
have you looked at their policies yourself?
https://www.conservatives.com/our-policy-prospectus
>Disapply the Human Rights Act from all immigration-related matters – Preventing foreign nationals from exploiting our court system.
>Increase the salary threshold for work visas to £38,700.
>Introduce powers to deport all foreign criminals – If you break the law here, you go home. No one who commits crime should be able to get Leave to Remain or citizenship.
https://www.reformparty.uk/policies
<deport foriegn criminals
<put a tax on immigrant labour
tories seem more serious.

>>2501234
restoring the slagocracy

>>2501239
Shes a 10 at any time of the day. I can fix her

>>2501272
she can fix me instead

>>2501287
She can have sexual intercourse with me if catch my drift.

>>2501297
a quaint bit of buggery, perhaps.

>>2501234
There was a great article I read on the resurrection of female toryism through the ultra-consumerist vision of the Pretty (note, not Beautiful) Woman; with Molly-Mae as the arcitype.

>>2501309
its a winning strategy

If the above posts show anything it's that we can probably convince many young men and women to become Communists just by showing off sexy Marxist babes and hot Leninist hunks

>>2501234
wtf they're still making big brother?…

>>2494974
Especially myself

>>2501110
What theory actually? It's more so a debunking of the logic they use of that board with actual facts and reality. The whole meme of that site is to basically say that reading books is AGP so don't ever read any theory or else you are AGP or a fake trans person because smart people are not trans. It's more so a trap to keep trans people from seeing class as a factor in society or becoming revolutionary as a group.

>>2501110
By more so I mean the poor and exploited. There are plenty of exploiters awful people among trans people but they use argues distinctions to describe particular phenomena and distinctions among trans people rather then explaining material and class relations that explain how those groups of people are formed. They pose themselves to be a counter point to mainstream liberal culture but the whole point of the board functions exclusively as a form of "woke" anti communism. I have seen many oppressed trans people fall down the rabbit hole and it is sad honestly.

Hypothetically, if transitioning is at least for some people driven by other factors than dysphoria, be it a sexual fetish, a psychological crisis, indoctrination via certain groups, etc… then there will always be a subset of trans people who detransition.
Hell there is also people I'm sure who are actually dysphoric too but detrans due to the long-term stress of being visibly trans in our current society and the financial and societal backlash they receive for transitioning.
My real worry is what the hell do we then do with hundreds or thousands of people who have had surgeries, complications from surgeries, who have breasts removed or grown via hormones, who have had genital surgeries, and who then cease being trans?
If you have had a phalloplasty or vaginoplasty operation and then decide you aren't trans anymore, like where do you even go in life from there? There's noone to relate to, nobody has the experience in dealing with that kind of traumatic experience.
Sadly it's impossible to discuss this without immediately being labelled a transphobe, and it isn't helped when a lot of detransers are AFAB individuals who never medically transitioned in a meaningful way and use their detransition to grift money from socially reactionary groups.
I just feel this is a topic nobody is even ready to address yet but maybe 5-10 years from now is going to be a much bigger issue.

>>2501769
The funny thing is how quickly this ceases to be a problem when people stop talking about it. In certain bourgeoise circles in the United States and Europe people seem to choose to transition for reasons other then dysphoria. This is not the fault of working class trans people at all and seems to be an implement of bourgeoise culture. The majority of people in the first world who can even afford those surgeries in the first place are those of the upper strata of society so stuff like this basically never happens. People who transition know what they are agreeing to and there is no sort of indoctrination whatsoever going on. If a bourgeoise liberal chooses to transition and regrets it I couldn't really give two shits. This is not the fault of working class trans people.

>>2501790
>People who transition know what they are agreeing to and there is no sort of indoctrination whatsoever going on.
Transgrooming doesn't exist? Detransed people also don't exist?
Lol

>>2501799
>the thing that i made up doesn't exist?

My parents and siblings are not intelligent enough to understand politics so I try my best to help steer them in the correct direction whenever they ask me stuff.
I wonder though, there must be many other families where 0 people are smart enough to understand basic shit going off in the world.
In fact 50% of people are below average intelligence. And the average isn't that high.
It's no wonder things are so fucked up in such a scenario.

>>2501807
*going on
You type like a naive teenager. You speak of understanding the world, yet uncritically accept autism score statistics. You have a lot to learn.

>>2501832
Don't care + cry more
Also language is decided by those who use it sweetie I can use it how I please
You sound like someone told you off at work and these kinds of snarky pointless comments on the internet is how you compensate

why do reactionaries find the need to hide themselves amongst leftist groups in order to slander the same people getting targeted by fashies and bourgies

Give me 3 good reasons not to become a soft-libertarian. Because it's too easy, I'll have to reject the reason "it's cringe", even if it is true.

That is: Not becoming a full anti-age of consent nonce, or even an enthusiastic neoliberal, but in the end accepting that basically: We do not have state capacity and the left cannot organize a pissup in a brewery. Once you take those two factors into account, all the fantasies of delivering socialist reform or revolution fall away and the next best thing is the successful parts of the actually-existing market system.
"You can make lots of money if you aren't an idiot" is simply a much better incentive structure than "You can fix things if you actually take power, but taking power is confusing and complicated, and you can get 75% of the dopamine by staying out of power and roleplaying like you're actually Stalin" or "You are a nominally social democratic party, you have no plans and take over a slowly collapsing state incapable of doing almost anything. All of your MPs have been bought by corrupt, incompetent companies in fake markets created by the state. You're currently the most unpopular PM in history"
I mean look at water. Obviously, obviously the solution to this natural monopoly is to have it in state hands. But the state's too corrupt - it'll never nationalise the companies, and if it does, it'll apppoint the same incompetent bastards to keep running them into the ground. At what point do you start thinking, christ, if we actually privatized them it couldn't be worse than this? At what point do you look at something like National Insurance and go: You know what, I accept there's no desire to implement worker control of industry, or even to nationalise things, but you could still stop collecting this particularly idiotic and economically distortionary tax. (The recent employer NI contribution hike means every single worker in the country costs between £1000 and £4000 more per year without getting a single extra penny in wages, madness!)

Then there's social issues. How you respond to them is greatly simplified when you're not playing social planner: is it hurting anyone else? No? Fine, then fuck off and do it. Should businesses and other institutions be able to discriminate? Sure, fuck it, why not. But the whole thing flows both ways and you can always exploit a niche in the market by appealing to a hated minority, or apply enough social pressure that they cave. Is that ideal? No, but again, what's the alternative - a crooked, politically motivated supreme court arbitrarily deciding that you're banned from discriminating against some people because their prejudices are protected philosophical beliefs, and obliged to discriminate against others because their very existence infringes on the right of normies not to see freaks? An "equalities and human rights" body stacked with reactionaries who believe in neither equalities nor in human rights that puts out legal guidance so impossible to implement that it simultaneously suggests you renovate every single public building in the country with an extra loo, or, if you don't like that, take your own legal advice.
Fuck off, fuck off, fuck off.
Forget it. I see now what economists see: there are a lot of market failures, but the market failures are rarely so insultingly stupid as the state failures. A market failure happens when a factory dumps toxic sludge in the sea because it's selfish. State failures increasingly happen because everyone involved is a blithering idiot with power over things they've no business meddling in and fake-private water companies in a fake-market get state bailouts so they can keep dumping literal shit in the sea because they're fucking idiots.

>>2501883
>We do not have state capacity and the left cannot organize a pissup in a brewery.

First question - what is your actual end goal. Let's say hypothetically you had infinite power, what kind of society would you want?

>>2501234
She got voted off, fastest ever

>>2501736
ray blanchard has already legitimised autogynephiles as "real" trans women. the typology isnt invalidating, which is why its funny when AGPs sperg out about the typology yet HSTS never do. AGPs have this conservative idea that because their symptom comes from a fetish its "dirty" and contaminated by sexuality.
>>2501751
>material conditions
heterosexuality and homosexuality are denoted. if your claim is that being poor makes you gay, or that being gay and poor makes you trans, then youre being incoherent.
>>2501790
most "trans" people are boymoders with anime pfps. theyre not getting the surgeries or even the hormones. its a phase for most, which it should be allowed to be.
>>2501769
transgender essentialism is at the root of a lot of evil.

>>2501905
I could write up a big fantasy, but in summary you can just imagine the USSR, Postwar-Keynesian Futurism, and anarcho-communism all tossed into a blender and then gone over with a fine tooth comb to make sure everybody sums out to equal.
But this is a set of aesthetic preferences rather than a serious politics. The real movement at its best may achieve many things, but it can't change aerodynamics and physics such that cars stop being ugly, even if it can make them prettier.

But I don't orient my serious politics around such a goal, except vaguely. (I don't like inequality, I do like people controlling their own lives, I'm not too worked up about what cars will look like if the CPGB-ML gets in) I could run a big long ranked-preference list on everything from the most idealistic anarcho-communist fantasies to actually existing social democracy. When I look at left wing orgs, my problem is that they're bad at organizing to achieve their own fantasies (look at Your Party's difficulties in creating Labour 2.0!), not that they don't share my own. Then, on top of that, you can look at the state itself: this government cannot build a railway, and yet a lot of left-wing fantasies rely on the idea you just take over the government (by vote or by revolution) and then go "build six railways!" as though the institutional knowledge to do so will come out of thin air. I can't buy it.

That's how I come to some of these conclusions. If I was a true believer, I'd call myself a market socialist and feel very proud of my new MBTI result. But it's just a practical judgement: A chunk of the state is now so dysfunctional that it's worse than nothing, and nobody likely to fix that is anywhere near power. "Just stop interfering" is the most practical option on the table. (And even then, it's a fantasy. A dysfunctional system can't identify where it's dysfunctional and withdraw…)

>>2501769
Hundreds or low-thousands of people isn't very many. Why do "we" need to do anything? particularly when the practical answer is "a gatekept discord group for real detransitioners" and the most likely result of highlighting the issue is "gatekeeping transition in a way that ironically forces people to suppress their doubts while causing worse outcomes for the much larger number of people who're satisfied with their transition"?

I don't say this cruelly, just practically: what exactly can be done? You have to live with it. It sucks, but that's it.

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>>2501883
we have to look at the principles of efficiency. i would define efficiency as a condition of scarcity. we employ a limited amount if variables in the most particular manner possible, like the division of labour. here, labour becomes most efficient where it is suited to specific tasks rather than general tasks.

the market is nothing but divisions of labour competing for their survival by selling commodities at a competitive rate. what underlies this however is a fixed budget. its the scarcity of funds which causes us to be efficient in planning and spending, like how when you get paid, you are initially wasteful, and the more skint you become, the more resourceful you become. business operates on fixed budgets, while government operates on variable budgets. to me, that is the first issue. secondly, the state doesnt produce commodities so it has no market incentive to provide competitive services. why then, do we have the public sector? to preserve what is necessary in service at the expense of efficiency. the truth is that as things stand, the NHS is a net deficit rather than a net benefit, but whose fault is this? its twofold; NHS budgets are irresponsible, but also, the persons it provides for are irresponsible too. they have national healthcare in japan but its not expensive, because they dont have as many unhealthy people as we do. so its a cultural issue, that we are allowed to get unhealthy, then bankrupt the country. if you stuck fat people in a camp and forced them to slim down, everyone, including the fatties themselves, would be grateful. we see dictatorships arise at the point where necessity and efficiency meet. when countries lose money, power becomes more central, since resources need to be better managed. of course, a businessman is really just a dictator over his own private kingdom, but it works for what it does. you work in a business but wouldnt like to live in one. so its a balance between necessity and efficiency.

>>2501924
You need a coherent and well defined program, and more importantly, you need a party where everyone unanimously agrees on the program.

Organization is not done for itself, but it's done in order to be able to execute a program. So useful politics begins first when you can assemble a group with clearly defined common goals and a common body of theory that everyone is in unanimous agreement with.


>>2501927
Sounds racist

>>2501923
>heterosexuality and homosexuality are denoted. if your claim is that being poor makes you gay, or that being gay and poor makes you trans

That is literally just projection and not my position whatsoever. There is a huge difference between people who transition out of the means of subsistence and those who don't. Sexuality is irrelevant as a factor and more tied to cultural practices if anything. At the end of the day the bourgeoise are those who create and enforce culture in Capitalist society. If you find T4T and T4F couples disgusting you have all the right to do so, I share similar views.

>>2501966
your argument is literally that more HSTS in poorer countries means that HSTS is a symptom created by poverty. what other meaning could you imply?

>>2501967
The fact that they transition out of the means of subsistence makes it more organic.
>your argument is literally that more HSTS in poorer countries means that HSTS is a symptom created by poverty.

When did I ever say anything like this?

>>2501974
here: >>2500946
>The majority of this has to do with class relations. HSTS are overwhelmingly from the third world while AGP are from the first world and bourgeois or petty bourgeois.

>>2501976
The point I was trying to make is that people who transition outside of survival (ie the bouroise) create this dichotomy because they don't work to survive. They simply transition for entirely other means . HSTS is not a symptom of poverty but more a more organic form of transition. I would assume many in bourgeoise circles simply transition because they have the money to afford it or because of other cultural factors. Rich people simply do whatever shit they want because they can and that is what creates these type of people in the first place.

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Has anyone else noticed that litter has become completely and totally out of control across England in recent years? Came back from Edinburgh which was spotless, walked out of Kings Cross Station and almost every inch of ground was covered in walked into the pavement litter. The difference between Edinburgh and England in terms of litter was astronomical. It's not just London as well, Bristol, Birmingham, Sheffield, Leeds, Manchester etc, it's just fucking litter goddamn everywhere.
What the fuck happened to leave no trace and keep britain clean?

>>2501927
The practical difficulty in organizing such people, or even finding people really incentivized to organize such a party, make it difficult to imagine it really coming to fruition. I think you wind up having to step back and try to organize the kind of institutions that can 'train' the kind of people who've the right experience, character, knowledge, etc, to come together on the basis of a common theory and set of common goals.

It's too easy to design a fantasy program held up by half-understood theories and held together by people who agree unanimously because they refuse to think, and too difficult to design a serious program based on a solid understanding of reality, held together by people who agree unanimously because they've all reached the correct conclusion. Even then, having the correct program doesn't guarantee you've got the correct means to carry out the program - "our program says: build a railway network" and "we have several railway engineers ready to start building, equipped with plenty of material resources with which to build, and we've correctly chosen where the railway connects" are very different situations.


>>2501984
what is more "organic" exactly? there are femme gay men who do drag and "pass" as women better than most transhumanists, yet there is ZERO logical next step in their mind to become a woman, while you have dysphoric AGPs who will NEVER pass yet feel an imperative to transition. the person who has the "choice" in this situation is the gay man, and the person powerless to their passions is the AGP person.
>>2501985
… lets just say that there are some cultures which have no concept of cleaning up after themselves. fly tipping has increased everywhere as well.

>>2501995
AGP only exists because of wealth accumulation and rich people having access to expensive surgeries while never working a day in their life.

>>2501997
i heavily disagree but to each his/her own

>>2501985
Drop a street view pin literally anywhere in India and report back with your findings

>>2501998
I think all bourgeois trans people should all be put to hard labor and have their property confiscated but obviously you don't agree because this is not a leftist board. I am just supposed to pretend that some plastic surgery ridden billionaire Hollywood freak is actually someone who is oppressed in some way or deserves any form of my recognition. Have a nice day.

>>2502015
Oppression is a tedious axis on which to judge things. You don't magically surrender your leftism by opposing kristallnacht just because many of those harmed were bourgeois and would in different circumstances be judged as oppressors and class enemies.

>>2502015
as i said, the vast majority of AGPs are not getting surgeries or even taking hormones, but are going through a phase, so your insistence upon this matter is meaningless. the real difference is a clash of civilisations, as i have previously highlighted. the west is far more comfortable with homosexuality than the rest of the world, so many homosexuals become women in non-western cultures. in iran for example, its illegal to be gay, so many gay men are pressured to become women.

>>2501751
>>2501769
>>2501790
Why the fuck are you up talking about your retarded bourgeois vs proletarian trans 'theory' at 4 am? Go to sleep.

>>2502027
>Why the fuck are you up talking about your retarded bourgeois vs proletarian trans 'theory' at 4 am?
It's a yank. they slip and use burger spelling all the time.

>>2501923
>AGPs have this conservative idea that because their symptom comes from a fetish its "dirty" and contaminated by sexuality
My sentiments against hard AGPs are not so much genealogical as they the pragmatic results of my own experience. The problem isn't as much with fetishes and sexuality as an introduction as it is with AGP being the main way for them to engage with womanhood. Being perpetually aroused by your own state of existence is the mental equivalent of only eating junk food and sweets and these people shouldn't be seen as capable of sound judgement, case in point habitual gooners. Anyone serious about transitioning should eventually be able to accept everyday things they might have eroticized in the past as normal and not in the gooner way that leaves them wanting for the next hit of feminization.

it appears that the contradiction of multicultural universality is reaching its limit with the ascendancy of islamic identity politics, which, as it has been held by held for some time by liberals, was a marginal token of diversity, yet is now increasing its incriment to homogeneity. many of the members of our political parties are of islamic identity and the illusion of their conformity to liberalism is fading, as they speak against the unconditional openness of western values. we see mothin ali for the green party show an absolute aversion to the question of LGBT+ rights, being the only elected member to formally deny a pledge to the queer community - his religion clearly conflicts with what has already been reformed away in britain's protestant infrastructure. Jesus and mother mary are chic icons, while muhammad is forbidden to even depict in illustration. upon winning his election he praised his deity, surrounded my similar kinsfolk. his victory didnt seem to simply be a run-of-the-mill british victory, but a symbol to an international brotherhood. we also saw this with rishi sunak, where his ministerial reign was celebrated more by india than the british themselves. here, the particularity of identity plays a central role, defying what is supposedly neutral or formal about political platforms. policy is replaced with pride.

another islamic figure at the head of progressive politics is adnan hussain for the troublesome "your party" (a party which is founded on a wedge issue of palestinian liberation, causing a false unity between the secular liberal left and theocratic muslim conservatives). adnan has similarly averted from pledging loyalty to the LGBT+ populations of britain and instead teams up with TERF zionists to override what would otherwise be a mandatory obligation by a non-islamic politician. here, his particularism is forgiven by avowed egalitarians like jeremy corbyn, who higs adnan instead of quarreling with his contradictory platform. corbyn appears to no longer value what is best for everyone, but only what is strategic to certain ends. but we cannot claim a clumsy anti-imperialist motivation here, for as i have noted, transphobia is apparently more unifying than anti-imperialist struggle. zionism is preferable to trans rights.

the liberal left now has an issue, since there are minorities who are accepted, but of whom refuse to accept others. the particularism of this politics is schmittian; it says that there are those included and excluded from one's concerns. it says that the public is really private; that society is a skirmish for tribal loyalties. this is a state of war, not a state of peace. what then, is immanently islamophobic is really that which attempts to defend liberal values. it is the intolerance of intolerance. we see in france for example, political islamophobia, not in the form of christian supersession, but rather, of liberal debasement. the burka is sought to be banned so that a woman may lose her humility. pork must be eaten to circulate commerce. this is an imperative liberalism, which exceeds what is mutually private to what is involuntarily public. the struggle for liberal values then concerns the preconditions of publicity, in civic and political life.

>>2502060
you are performing the same error by trying to decouple sex and sexuality.

>>2502098
uygha, not everyone is a pubescent male or afflicted with perpetually horny syndrome you know like when i try to talk to someone about metroid, and they immediately bring up zero-suit samus. I don't think about sex for most of my waking life and during the time of my life i did it was out of boredom or cope + T. Modern female socialization promotes sexualization to a far lesser extent and for all of its flaws shows a healthier relationship to it than the male imperative to constantly think of how to get ahead of others sexually.

>>2502160
why are you so afraid of sexuality?

owen jones status?

>>2502166
I have a sexuality, i read erotica and sometimes i think about how to meet a s/o long-term. I just think most people are overly concerned with theirs to an alarming degree, being detrimental to their mental health and social prospects. Overindulgence is a vice, addiction a weapon and goonerbait maybe the most popular opium next to contentslop in general.

>>2502185
should we ban gay pride parades?

>>2502167
OJ busy defending the zionists and posing on Novara

>>2502195
No, but i agree with S that explicit kink should be censored.

>>2502210
s anon is a deranged activist
i dont take their advice

What's your honest opinion of Zack Polanski?

in a fantasy situation, what would happen if literally a million people in london held up palestine action signs?

>>2502311
Nothing. How about this hypothetical: What would happen if literally a million people started actively resisting the government and arming themselves with homemade weapons and shooting police officers?

>>2502231
I don't take that as a bad thing. You can't change the world without some people thinking you're deranged.

in a fantasy situation, what would happen if i hypothetically took a massive shit on keir starmer's front porch?

Zultanass will be the final nail in the Great British coffin

Your Party? Never existed.

>>2502336
we were never at war with eurasia

is it possible to be patriotic while also not alienating immigrants? 🤔

>>2502251
Seems like a pretty decentish fellow

>>2502388
i agree, but i also feel bad, because i think a multicultural britain should still be britain - if you get me.

>>2502391
Of course it would, if most of the other cultures are willing to be part of Britain.
Take the example of your cheese-eating wine-drinking neighbours, it has one of the biggest diasporas of Armenians, Vietnamese, Chinese, Iranian etc, and yet you never here a failure of the French system to 'integrate' these populations. That is because if you know Sino-French, Viet-French, Iranian-French people, you will know they wanted tp integrate in French society. They moved to France for better career opportunities, but also because they sincerely liked French culture and they're more than happy to see their kids growing up in that culture.
There is a big immigrant population which unfortunately despises French (and UK) culturel, they do not want to integrate, they do not want to abide by the rules, and yet they insist on being there. With those people, my friend, there is nothing you can do.

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>>2502400
in this article for example: >>2495044
britain is basically described as an economic zone, where "patriotism" for this man of immigrant descent is defined by better public spending. its a soulless, metropolitan vision of things, where culture is debased to consumerism. the left seems lost in this, where simultaneously we're all treated as atomised individuals pemeating an anonymous urban landscape, but we're also supposed to conjoin on particular issues and have solidarity. if the left have accepted thatcherism, then there is no society to be mediated by. its the contradiction which is bothersome. i want to feel like we live in a shared society, not just tribes.

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Maybe a society is really only the legal framework behind it. It's like arguing about whether everyone's favorite color should be blue or green. What does it mean? What does it matter? Everyone debating the window dressing as if it fundamentally changes anything. If a society wears pants or kilts, what difference does it make?

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>>2501253
> pre-brexit policies concerning immigration?
Hey guys, look at this remoaner. This eurocuck wants to go to pre-brexit Immigration policies.
Mate, we won. Brexit happened and we don't have those WOKE undemocratic EU-enforced migration-policies anymore.
Suck it, lib.

>>2502437
law, custom, values, manners, language, religion, art, culture, codes, dress…
a lot of things go into what makes a society

The problem with Greens is that they aren't inherently socialist, and there is a massive gulf in the economic stance between the two big Green factions.
Historically there was a name for the two types of Greens - Fundis and Realos.
These terms were used a lot in the 80s-00s and aren't used so much today, but the two groups still exist very distinctly.
Realo Greens are pro-capitalism, centrists, want to be part of the mainstream political establishment, wear a suit and tie, are generally from bourgeois backgrounds. Tories on bikes as they're sometimes called.
Fundis are basically all of those Greens who oppose this - which in itself consists of two very different and distinct strains.
One group of Fundis is the eco-socialist, the libertarian socialist, the kind who maybe have fondness for Bookchin, Chomsky, the Zapatistas, Rojava, Veganism or hunt sabbing, etc. These are often called Watermelon Greens these days - Green on the outside, Red inside.
The other is the whacky acid tripping dreadlocked alternative medicine deep ecology never bathing barefooted neopagan hippy type.
Thankfully this second type of Fundi is nowadays politically irrelevant, many of them also followed the schizo pipeline into far right Q-anon antivax conspiracy circles in recent years and now probably support Reform anyway.
Anyway, depending on whether Realos or Fundis are in charge massively alters the political structure of a Green party.
The German Greens are as Realo as it gets. Fully centrist, neoliberal, pro-capitalism, pro-Nato, pro-Israel, etc.
Zack Polanski is obviously a Fundi Green, but still moderate enough for the public to accept.
Adrian Ramsey and Ellie Chowns are both Realos, (although they aren't Zionists afaik?).
Carla Denyer like many Greens doesn't necessarily sit on the extreme of either side but somewhere in the middle.
Anyway, there will always be an internal tension and struggle for the direction of the movement between these two sides, always at war for control until one side is eliminated. Usually Realos seize control - but at the moment they're the weaker faction in the UK green parties.
And then beyond even all that, even withing the Green Eco-Socialist Watermelon Fundis, just like with Anarchism and unlike Marxism, a lot of it is vibes based, many people in the movement have good intent but don't have a proper scientific or philosophical framework to operate in, they just base things on what feels right to their own personal moral compass.
There are I'm sure many Marxist Watermelon/Fundi Greens, but it's not exactly something they feel they can brag about, they have to suggest Marxist ideas through a Green lense, which always means some watering down and distortion.
Anyway that's my understanding and analysis of the Greens. I feel if there is no Marxist option to vote for, if Greens can win where you are, then it's fair enough to support any Fundi Green.
But if the Realos manage to wrestle control you basically have another Lib Dems 2.0 in which case voting for them is not worth it really is it?
/blog

>>2502437
>It's like arguing about whether everyone's favorite color should be blue or green
it's really not like that and nobody here thinks they are remotely the same

>>2502440
If you can't or won't codify them to law, they're largely irrelevant. People may like rock music today and rap music tomorrow since you haven't legally codified that. This would be the same with or without immigration as well. You can have a completely have a homogenous society and you'll still be talking about "the kids these days" not behaving or thinking as your generation did.

>>2502444
Well actually everyone everywhere thinks the opposite. You've just been trumped.

It's funny how leftybritpol is like the one general where people are so unironically nationalistic that they weep over their shitty flag. It's funny because they live in the country with the least reason to feel pride in their own cultural identity. Your whole cultural identity is built around subservience to a geriatric pedophile and his pedophile family.

>>2502439
lets take a look at some of the changes:
>The post-Brexit immigration system makes it easier for migrants on work visas to remain in the UK long-term or permanently.
>Under the previous Tier 2 (General) route, a worker could remain in the UK for a maximum of six years. If they wished to stay for longer, they had to apply for settlement. To qualify for settlement, they had to meet a settlement salary threshold, which in 2020 was £35,800. If they were not able to meet this threshold, they would have to leave the UK, and would not be able to return on a Tier 2 visa for another year. This was known as the 12-month “cooling off period”.
>Under the Skilled Worker route, there is no maximum period of stay and no cooling off period. This means that a person can work indefinitely under this route if they keep extending their visa.
>The salary threshold for settlement has also been lowered. If a Skilled Worker wishes to apply for settlement after five years, they no longer need a salary of £35,800. Instead, they must simply earn the same rates that apply at entry.
<These changes are a notable liberalisation on the previous system, and mean that some Skilled Workers can settle in the UK on salaries as low as £20,480.
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/primers/policy-primer-the-uks-2021-points-based-immigration-system/
so the new visa system allows for a massive margin for low-skilled labour leading to permanent settlement.

>>2502445
right, so you are a thatcherite
thanks for proving my point

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>>2502455
So what is British cultural identity? Gargling Windsor family balls and cunt?

>>2502457
if you dont know, you dont know.

>>2502445
>If you can't or won't codify them to law, they're largely irrelevant.
completely wrong, legalist perspective.
There is no law that we must brush our teeth everyday and yet it's something which has become so natural

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>>2502460
>There is no law that we must brush our teeth everyday and yet it's something which has become so natural
Lies.

>>2502410
yeah the european left today have abandoned many improtant things such as family structure, national identity, anti-gangsterism/hooliganism. SImply bringing these up means you are a Farage right wing retard nowadays. They will carricature your stance as a racist gamon.
The left has become the most loyal soldier of neo-liberalism. Dirty Thatcher is laughing from the depths of hell.

>>2502461
fucking hell I forgot this was leftybritpol, i should have found another example lmao

>>2502466
🤣🤣

>>2502458
>if you dont know, you dont know.
I know.

>We are the Village Green Preservation Society

>God save Donald Duck, vaudeville and variety
>We are the Desperate Dan Appreciation Society
>God save strawberry jam and all the different varieties
<Preserving the old ways from being abused
<Protecting the new ways for me and for you
<What more can we do?
>We are the Draught Beer Preservation Society
>God save Mrs. Mopps and good old Mother Riley
>We are the Custard Pie Appreciation Consortium
>God save the George Cross and all those who were awarded them
>We are the Sherlock Holmes English speaking vernacular
>Help save Fu Manchu, Moriarty, and Dracula
>We are the Office Block Persecution Affinity
>God save little shops, china cups and virginity
>We are the skyscraper condemnation afiliates
>God save Tudor houses, antique tables, and billiards
<Preserving the old ways from being abused
<Protecting the new ways for me and for you
<What more can we do?

There is no such thing as Britain, only England and her subjects. Britishness is hollow, hollow, hollow. It is spoken of as little more than an economic zone because that's all it is - and even then a currency zone, not a national economy. A national economy cannot help but create a national culture, but the national economy was shut down long ago.

The real problem once you set aside Keynesian fantasies is that Blair was unwilling to take on English reactionaries. He pandered rather than crushing. Somewhere out there is a multicultural Britain, and it's more economically liberal than what we've got now, and in the EU. Somewhere out there are 4 national economies of the former UK, too, but the only place you'll find a British Nation is in the history books. (I recommend Edgerton's rise and fall of the British Nation personally.)

>>2502464
That's because these things appeal to the uneducated and the left is made up of educated people. Fortunately, society is becoming more educated over time. Pandering to old superstitions is a great way to appeal to nobody - no small-c conservatives are going to take a punt on your radical party and no high openness educated person is going to take a punt on your conservative party.

>>2502538
go spend 3 months in Saudi Arabia and you will understand immediately what Britishness means

>>2502541
>the most educated people are thatcherites
good to know

>>2502450
Ralph miliband said that the english were the most nationalistic people in the world.

>>2502450
England and France gave birth to the modern world. Seethe and cope, retard.

>>2502450
The cruel irony o this post lmao. British Socialists irrationally hate their own flag more than any other nation.

>>2502450
>t's funny how leftybritpol is like the one general where people are so unironically nationalistic
Who?

>>2502616
>>2502631
Read the thread.

>>2502613
>England and France gave birth to the modern world. Seethe and cope, retard
Probably why you think your culture is vanishing. It is so ubiquitous it is invisible to you. So how is it going to disappea from immigrants if the whole world follows it?

>>2502586
They aren't, they're socially liberal (which Thatcher wasn't) and economically left of center.
Meanwhile the uneducated overwhelmingly vote vote for a self-professed Thatcherite.

>>2502665
>Read the thread.
Lots of schizoid raving. Doesn't change what I said.

Farage claims he's at risk from being assassinated by antifa because Starmer said his policies are racist
Fucking LMAO

>>2502968
Little does Farage realise that ANTIFA in this country can't even organise a trip to the pub.

Not a Trot but RCP seem to be doing stuff. Still an outfit for Students; especially the stereotype of the button-wearing leftist, but they appear to be bringing people in and starting to challenge the SWP for being shit.

>>2502586
>economically left of centre
you are insane

>>2503002
I accept your concession, your lack of a rebuttal with any numbers behind it speaks louder than an open concession ever could.

I think Trotsky was right about a lot of things, which is precisely why I despise the 3 or 4 different petit bourgeois student activist self righteous newspaper seller organisations claiming to be the heirs of Trotsky in the UK.
I mentioned a few days ago how one of the RCPs most recent videos was just an hour of sanewashing Trump and claiming he's more moderate than the left claim.
I don't need an hour long lecture of you doing that shit and then trying to LARP as if that position is an infallible scientific fact.
Instead of such pointless youtube vlogs, why don't they infiltrate the left of existing institutions or register as a real political party or organise some kind of revolutionary activity?

>>2503145
Trump is objectively to the left of the Democratic Party.

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>>2502674
Economically very right to centre
Labour, Tory, Reform = Far Right
Your Party = centrist
British Left does not exist.

>>2503149
How so? They're both zionist imperialist capitalist parties. Only difference is whether you want woke zionist capitalism or racist transphobic zionist capitalism.


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Britbongs are still trying to nationalize the trains. Meanwhile Amtrak is already nationalized and now Trump is nationalizing tech companies like Intel. MAGA Communism will lead the way for the West to compete with Socialism With Chinese-Characteristics.

>>2503159
>MAGA Communism
>Socialism With Chinese-Characteristics

🤡

>>2503159
>Britbongs are still trying to nationalize the trains.
it's been done, no?
>>2500875 btw.

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>>2503190
That's nice. How soon tho?

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>>2503198
>How soon tho?
Are you a literal illiterate, or?


Why aren't you engaging in sabotage against the imperialist machine? Why aren't you preparing for a protracted people's war?

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>>2502377
Yes, the issue is that European Multiculturalism has largely failed because shock horror, what anyone with a brain who isn't a oikophobic post-modernist retard (like 99% of the left are) has been saying the obvious for a long time. Cultural Relativsm is an absolutely retarded concept to base the running of a society on, especially when the new groups coming in are pathologically hostile to other cultures, and have extreme ingroup biases to the point they literally set up dual power structures and it becomes near impossible to police them. This is where you get the situation here in the UK, where law abiding people are punished way more harshly than Lumpen BAME/Migrants, because it's simply too hard for cops and judiciary to deal with BAME/Migrant dual power structures, protection etc. Classic example of this is Hasids, who have Shomrim who basically cover for any crime a Jewish person commits against outsiders, you could be a Jewish guy, rape a 5 year on in the middle of Piccadilly Circus, and you'll have a free first class ticket to Israel within 2 minutes.
It also doesn't help the Left are pathologically oikophobic and frankly, extremely reactionary when it comes to the defense of Migrants/BAME. Grooming gangs were fucking obvious to anybody with eyes, but to the left they were just a "right wing conspiracy theory", "muh ray guns lmao", even now that the left actually acknowledges they are real Leftards blame the police rather than the actual gangs of rapists, and the police were only involved, because the police were fucking Pakistanis themselves.
Look at Chris Kaba, the entire UK left were sucking his dick "he dindunuttin he's a good boy who wants to study architecture", "Muh police brutality" bullshit for 2 fucking years… until it turns out he was a gangland hitman involved in numerous driveby shootings and in one night discharged more bullets at people the amount of ammunition UK police have used in a decade.
Notice almost nobody has issues with Yank migrants, or Canadian migrants, or Australian migrants, or Chinese migrants, or Korean migrants, or New Zealand migrants, hell most people don't even have issue with Sikhs or Brahmin Hindus this is because these people aren't obnoxious lumpens who have values that go directly in contrast to British values and civic society. People are sick of roadmen, people are sick of lumpen BAME culture, people are sick of Islam, people are sick of sitting on the tube and getting blasted with Pakistani tiktok at full volume, people are sick of sitting on the tube and getting blasted with Drill at full volume, people are sick of pick pockets and electric bike/scooter gangs etc meanwhile the entire left gaslights people as too "uhh why don't people like migrants, they just are ignorant". Sorry
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_sex_abuse_ring
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_child_sex_abuse_ring
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_child_sex_abuse_ring
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keighley_child_sex_abuse_ring
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derby_child_sex_abuse_ring
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_child_sex_abuse_ring
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banbury_child_sex_abuse_ring
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aylesbury_child_sex_abuse_ring
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_child_sex_abuse_ring
The left covered up, covered for, and mocked anybody who dared point out what was happening for 20 fucking years. "Muh ray guns lol Nazi", the left has absolutely no fucking credibility when it comes to issues of migration and in general civic behaviour anymore because the British left for 20 years, covered for mass child rape simply because BAME did it. The left still CAN'T STOP covering for the abusers, by trying to shift responsibility to "lazy classist cops".
There is a way to do multiculturalism and immigration correct, look at China, but the Western left are so fucking oikophobic that even the fact Great Replacement is a retarded conspiracy theory, it really genuinely is how 90%+ of the left actually think. Most UK leftists would be fine with native white brits being pushed to the population and cultural fringes of UK society.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>>2503572
>White Brit never asks why his White Brit teens are easily groomed by Unibrow Abdul.

You are a failed society way before immigrants.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/sinead-o-connor-minister-affair-b1855723.html
Sinead O’Connor says she had an ‘affair’ with a 47-year-old Baptist minister when she was a teenager
>When O’Connor was 18, she was introduced to a 47-year-old minister of a London Baptist church, and began seeing him romantically.

>“We had somewhat of an affair,” she wrote.


>“The minister had convinced me (since I was young and an idiot) that his wife didn’t understand him. I was his true love and all that stuff.


>“After a while I realised I was being duped for the shtup. Sitting by myself until our weekly hour-long visit, not going out with anyone else, I was like Whitney bloomin’ Houston, saving all my love, like a total moron.”


Maybe if White bongoloids weren't grooming their own kids, they wouldn't fall prey so easily.

>>2503572
Make rapists white, got it

>>2503582
I will openly say, there is tonnes of white british rape as well, it's "Nonce island for a reason". Rape and sexual abuse is so endemic to Elite Private Boarding Schools that "public school boy syndrome" is a real psychological disorder unique to the UK, Stephen Fry outright defended kids being abused in elite private boarding schools as character building, Jimmy Savile was covered for raping kids since the 50s, that said the UK left doesn't have an issue with calling out this stuff. Nobody on the left is running to the defense of Savile, people on the left covered for migrant grooming and rape gangs for decades, still largely cover for them by trying to deflect from the gangs, and still push Lumpen bullshit.
It's not just the gangs though, it's that high streets are turning into crime riddled ethnic enclave shitholes, my area now has fucking full on wet markets after influx of migration lmao. It's the general anti-civic attitude in public, the harassing of women in public, the antisocial behaviour that goes on until early hours of the morning. Yes, the left can call it racist all they want, but do you really want to grow up in a UK town, and then end up a minority population in an ethnic enclave of a hostile foreign culture, who then take over local governmental organs and start enforcing their bullshit ideology and values? No of course not. This though is a reality across the UK.
>>2503150
You have to love very basic state functions like SOEs or even just investing into business for Public coffers is "Maoist" now. NO YOU NEED TO GIVE PUBLIC MONEY TO PRIVATE COMPANIES FOR FREE ANYTHIGN ELSE IS LITERALLY MAO REEEE
>>2502541
It's funny the more apparently "educated" you become the more of a antisocial retard who hates civic values and society you become. Yes, only poors care about civicism compared to the oh so smart middle class cosmopolitians.
>>2502450
Sorry, the UK produced the greatest music culture ever to exist between 1960s-1980s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiVGD1rcQxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pa9x9fZBtY
The idea that the UK has no cultural identity is absurd.
>>2502442
Great breakdown, when I worked on Green campaigns in the 2000s though, there were a lot of Marxist old guard in there. Marxism isn't incompatiable with Environmentalism read Kohei Saito.
>>2502400
>There is a big immigrant population which unfortunately despises French (and UK) culturel, they do not want to integrate, they do not want to abide by the rules, and yet they insist on being there. With those people, my friend, there is nothing you can do.
Yes there is, China did it in Xinjiang.
>>2502011
White brits litter all over the place as well I see it all the time. Pic related is a 95%+ white area. The issue is that the UK has lost it's no trace left behind/keep britain tidy culture. I know for FACT Keep Britain Tidy has been whittled down to just 2 people.
Thinking of just recreating this old anti-litter ad for the UK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgqX0VhCSsM
and paying for Youtube to play it as a youtube ad. Jingles always get stuck in peoples minds so is a pretty good strat to start a new campaign on.

This is peak bong culture:

>You! Yes, you! Stand still, laddie!


>When we grew up and went to school

>There were certain teachers who
>Would hurt the children in any way they could

>By pouring their derision

>Upon anything we did
>Exposing every weakness
>However carefully hidden by the kid

>But in the town, it was well known

>When they got home at night,
>Their fat and psychopathic wives
>Would thrash them within inches of their lives

>>2503608
>Sorry, the UK produced the greatest music culture ever to exist between 1960s-1980s
Blehh, all you music is over-hyped and a copy of American music and American Black music palatable for a albino baby's palette. I like a lot of the bands don't get me wrong but still. Actually Yes is no my favorite bong band of all time. I've been stuck on this song for over a month now.

>>2503609
It's genuinely depressing how shit UK music became post 2000s.
Up until the mid 2000s, UK was still turning out stuff like Faithless, Hybrid, Fatboy Slim, Massive Attack, Burial, Shpongle, Arctic Monkeys etc then it all fell apart and the UK now just can't produce fucking shit in terms of good music, just drill and terrible modern gay bait pop like Charlie XCX.
Zoomers seem to be the least talented modern generation in regards to music. Even big "zoomer" artists/genres are all the doing of Millennials.

>>2503613
If you make another early 70s Yes, I will become a fan of Britain again. 80s Yes, no dice.

>>2503615
>Up until the mid 2000s, UK was still turning out stuff like Faithless, Hybrid, Fatboy Slim, Massive Attack, Burial, Shpongle, Arctic Monkeys etc then it all fell apart and the UK now just can't produce fucking shit in terms of good music, just drill and terrible modern gay bait pop like Charlie XCX.
No Aphex Twin, no LFO. Lilly Allen was pretty good too no lie.

Still pissed I missed Ozric Tentacles playing at the Peak Cavern a few months back.
Seriously bring back UK psy-rock and 1980s-1990s rave.

>>2503619
I even liked that one Kasabian song. (do you know what they're named after lol?)

>>2503572

The simple thing is to ask modern leftists "Would China allow this?"

<Would China allow thousands of Chinese girls be raped by immigrants?

No.

<Would China allow mass immigration of illegal AND legal immigrants?

No. Their immigration rate is 1/50th of Western rates.

<Would China tolerate Islamist retardation?

No. They set up literal re-education camps to turn Uyghurs into secular normal people.

<Would China support "soft on crime" policies?

No.

But leftists want the opposite of China does, because leftists have been successfully psyopped into taking the most ridiculous and unpopular social positions, so that their more reasonable and popular economic positions are neutered politically.

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>>2503648
The hilarious thing is that in regards to policing shit like religion, even Muslim countries have no issues with enforcing a 'state acceptable' version of religious belief, for example every mosque you go into in indonesia basically has Government banners on the Government approved Islam.
Meanwhile in the UK "Nooo muh poor Wahabis nooooo you can't police them wahabi islam is a beautiful culture and belief noooooo BUT FUCK CHRISTIANITY AND CHRISTIANS BUNCH OF NONCE PAEDOPHILES"
Like you said, I base a lot of my pragmatic policy on China, and there is nothing "reactionary" agaist reeducation and forcing adherence to civic norms. If you can't speak english and you come some from bumfuck backwards culture, you should not have to pass a fucking 10 question multiple choice quiz to become ILR with questions like "What is not acceptable in the UK, talking to friends, going to work, murdering people" and instead it should be like Xinjiang, Xinjiang + beatings. If you litter, council officers should be able to come up and beat you with a baton, if you are engaging in public wahabi evangelism, beatings then dragged to reeducation.
100,000 new police and ASBOs back in full force. Reopen Botany Bay and if you get caught littering 3 times, off on a fucking prison ship to a Labour camp where you get daily beatings.
Hilarious China can have 56+ (arguably 200+) ethnic groups live in Harmony, but the UK struggles with like 10.

>>2503660
It's by design. The ruling classes of UK and all of EU frankly got their blueprint from looking at America and the total social dysfunction caused by hostilities between Whites and Blacks. They saw how this hostility effectively destroys class solidarity. And they saw how the ruling class cleverly maintains the hostility by never actually fixing the problem. It also has the benefit that the working class itself becomes anti-socialism because the lumpen will get free stuff.

So the EU/UK turned on the immigration tap till it got to 10-15% and that's enough to serve the purpose of destroying social solidarity, reducing wages and eliminating any appetite for socialism. And the Left was the ruling class's strongest footsoldier in defending this hugely unpopular anti-worker policy.

>>2503660
Das rite
Countries like Egypt, Uzbekistan,Azerbaijan etc have laws when and where you are allowed to wear a hijab

>>2503672
It's ok we still have countries like Poland or Israel who have a lot of class solidarity!

>>2503648
china is also functionally an ethnostate (not for han chinese people, but for chinese people), would this be a great idea to import into britain?

>>2503692
Non sequitur, it was never stated that the absence of this thing automatically results in communism.

<pooping on a plate of food makes its bad

>oh yeah well I didn't shit in this plate of surstromming and it still tastes bad! Destroyed with facts and logic! Numpty numpty num num!

>>2503696
how can you function with this level of illiteracy? anyways this is probably the most reactionary and chauvinist thread on the site, pricks like you are proof of it

>>2503699
You don't understand, worker solidarity only ever happened in countries like Russia where every worker waw speaking the same language, practicing the same religion and having the same skin color…

according to this video:
>the british class system
<"the ruling class" (no specificity)
<the "professional middle class" (PMC?)
<the "cultural" middle class (uni graduates)
<shopkeepers/merchants (petit bourgeoisie)
<the white van man (self-employed)
<the precariat (uber drivers)
<the "white" working class
<the "multicultural" working class
>all classes must unite against the ruling class using the power of gary's economics and the green party
>gib me patreon money on top of this sponsored video
shocking.
and no mention of the lumpenproletariat or pensioners, who collectively take up about a third of public spending, and who have been politically mobilised over everyone else.

>>2503702
yeah the Chechen retards were very conducive to Bolshevism… The workers of early 1900s Russia is totally the same as Mohammed Hijab and Ali Dawah bro

>>2503695
>functionally an ethnostate
wrong, you can go there and work but you cannot go there illegally, and just demand that Chinese society conforms to your backwards retardation and pampers you for it

>>2503705
yeah therefore we have to be chauvinists, since every muslim is ali dawah
>>2503707
you can go there, but it is extremely hard to become a citizen in china if you are not one of its registered ethnic groups

>>2503572
well, the only alternative is to surrender public concerns about immigration to the right, which is unacceptable. it was the tories who already opened the floodgates. that isnt contradictory with tory racism; whats contradictory is leftists supporting tory policy.

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>>2503718
indian and african descendant immigrants have canon in british imperial life. i suspect "asians" have a lower identification with britishness, and they also appear absent from the results you posted.

>>2503572
>>2503603
Shut the fuck up racist cunt. Keep worshipping the real paedophiles and blame it on brown people. You are disgusting and you should not be tolerated in public life.

Also what 'UK culture' lmao? Royal noncery? A long gone Empire? The last good patriotic song you had was literally from 1804 and was written by a christian socialist XD

>>2503718
>scale goes from 0 to 7, and not 0 to 10.
Oxford and Cambridge ain't sending their best.

>>2503742
>>2503740
What does Gonzalo think of Britannia?

>>2503648
<Would China allow thousands of Chinese girls be raped by immigrants?
Non-argument. Real rape by immigrants is used as propaganda to make it seem like all interracial consensual relationships are rape by browns.
<Would China allow mass immigration of illegal AND legal immigrants?
We'll see about those birthrates.
<Would China tolerate Islamist retardation?
China made schools. You took anti-china propaganda and fliped it to seem "based". The paradox is that most "islamists" are just basic european rightoids but muslim. Which means they are integrating well with the rising far-right.
<Would China support "soft on crime" policies?
China and Singapore aren't the end of history.

I bet you think the Labour party is socialist.

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>>2503648
Bro thinks saying china china china is an argument lmao

>>2503608
>It's funny the more apparently "educated" you become the more of a antisocial retard who hates civic values and society you become.
That simply isn't true. Smarter areas are universally nicer places to live. Smarter people are universally less guilty of crime or social disorder. Smarter people take more account of the consequences of their actions (for example: not littering because even though it solves the problem of you having rubbish, it creates a new problem.)
And if course, smart people don't vote for obvious wronguns like Farage.

p.s. citing Britain's influence 1960-1980 as proof of British culture just shows how dead Britain is today. Austro-Hungarian culture looks very strong when you look at late 1800s military marches!

>A nation of more than 1 billion people doesn't take immigrants, clearly this means the same policy is a good idea for a stagnant backwater of 60 million
lole

>>2503841
More importantly, China still has a large rural population that they can keep sucking into the cities. Sorry, I meant "poverty reduction".

Mass migration is done with the express purpose of driving down wages and delaying investment into modernization and automation.
How people quickly forgot the mask falling off during Covid and the BoE demanding borders be reopened to stop a "wage-price spiral".
The issue by 2040 will be underemployment due to automation of a lot of white sector work, transport jobs etc. I have no idea how leftists bought this "muh demographics muh mass migration is needed" bullshit when it's clear whole sectors are going to be wiped out by smart automation in the next 20 years, especially when the UK is a fucking dogshit "services" economy that can be easily automated. Last time I worked on a services job, I literally automated 90% of my work using fucking keyboard macros alone. A friend of mine completely automated his job using visual basic. It's not long for a lot of office jobs to go full digital.

>>2503886
Kicking Young Fathers or TV on the Radio into the English channel won’t save you or make your awful angloid race capable of revolution

>>2503613
> all you music is over-hyped and a copy of American music and American Black music
Yes. Because african-american music was appreciated here, and the only way one could get filthy white yanks to listen to it was to sell the exact same thing back to them but through a white face.

>>2504113
>America had many "two-tone" bands decades before Albion.
This is not two-tone you musical illiterate.

>>2504139
>Two-tone, or 2 tone and ska revival,[1] is a genre of British popular music of the late 1970s and early 1980s that fused traditional Jamaican ska, rocksteady, and reggae music with elements of punk rock and new wave music.[1] Its name derives from 2 Tone Records, a record label founded in 1979 by Jerry Dammers of the Specials,[3] and references a desire to transcend and defuse racial tensions in Thatcher-era Britain: many two-tone groups, such as the Specials, the Selecter and the Beat, featured a mix of black, white, and multiracial people.
>Originating in Coventry in the West Midlands of England in the late 1970s, it was part of the second wave of ska music. It followed on from the first ska music that developed in Jamaica in the 1950s and 1960s, infused with punk and new wave textures.
What's going on here? are you legitimately retarded or wot?

>>2504197
I could ask the same about you, no?
Just what are you intending to suggest here? two-tone music is just when black people and white people do music together? Do you not know how ridiculous a notion that is?

Your Party has been registered with the electoral commission with TERFy McLandlord as the nominating officer (the guy who officially chooses their candidates), Corbyn as sole leader (you didn't vote for him? Huh, weird, I was at the election and so was everyone else, honest, you must've forgotten. Everyone was invited.), and £850,000 in assets.

>>2504448
Let's see what happens after the founding meetings first. I'll ditch it depending on what direction it goes when members start to say.

>>2504448
salty Sutanass hands typed this post

>>2504498
Literally Palestine party since Corby is a tribune so of even greater weight than Galloway

>>2504498
Yeah but registering a change later is really easy. For example: the Lib Dems fucked around a lot in 1988-89 when they decided to merge the Liberals and SDP. They were the social and liberal democrats, then the democrats, and then finally the liberal democrats.

owen jones status:

Terrorist attack at a Synagogue in Manchester.

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hey remember that time Enoch Powel admitted that the gods want to kill anglos?

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>>2505034
>dant fooking shoot im!
<
<*tap*
>fuuuuuken ell

>>2505064
Cops are bad for shooting a terrorist?

>>2505034
Zionist one or sane one?

Expect the government to take full advantage of this attack and implement further restrictions on pro Palestinians protest

Post Zultana pics.

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>>2505084
>Ajournalist from Manchester has been selected to serve on Israeli president Isaac Herzog’s “Voice of the People” council, a monthly meeting of Jewish people from around the world to address issues important to global Jewry.
<Josh Aronson (picrel husband), 38, is one of 150 Jewish individuals selected for the initiative, which aims to strengthen ties and forge new connections between Israel and Jewish communities worldwide.
Yep. Zionist. Still shitty though and will be used to undermine us even though it was probably a jihadi retard who did it. But it's not the neutral space they will make it out to be.
Would one, if christfag, go to a church if we were in the height of the crusades except with internet access?

>>2505119
Inb4 anon says "I meant Zultana feet pics"

>>2503718
>>2503747
It's a common sentiment among people who create polls that agreement scales should not have a neutral option. I'm not entirely sure about the reasoning. I guess they believe it is more informative if people who only very slightly care one way or another don't choose neutral. But that is just an artifact of using a low scale resolution. Another argument is that even people who do care quite a bit may be reluctant to express themselves.

Anyway, what is truly the correct pollster position on having neutral is far from settled. Your average neutral hater is probably more vocal. It's "eh neutral is ok with me" VS "NEUTRAL IS SHIT".

>>2505185
>Josh Aronson
He was just interviewed on BBC News about 20 minutes ago lol
Anyway, salafists doing jihadi terror attacks on a random pro-zionist synagogue in the norf of the UK achieves nothing positive.
It's not going to help people in Gaza, it provides more rhetoric for people trying to claim pro-Palestine people are violent terrorists, it leaves random people dead.
It just harms anyone who actually supports the Palestinian cause.

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very convenient timing, don't you think? just 2 days ago, the labour party voted to accept the UN's commission acknowledging the genocide in gaza and to using “all means reasonably available” to stop the commission of genocide (which, in theory, means stopping the flow of arms to israel). now, however, the bbc is reporting that;
"Directly addressing the UK's Jewish community, he says he'll do everything in his power to give "the security you deserve" said starmer. with regards to the bbc's reporting, they've also, rather suddenly, declared that "police data suggests a rise in anti-semitic crime"
i find this all very interesting.


>>2505521
surprising but unsurprising

The Synagogue attacker has been named as Jihad al Shami, 35.
Originally from Syria, he came to Britain as a refugee during the Syrian civil war and had since obtained full British citizenship.
His legal, real name is literally Arabic for "Jihadi from Syria". You cannot make this shit up.

>>2505777
Labour-approved expulsion of Syrians incoming

reminder that Sultana is a vile wrecker, an opportunist who is trying to usurp Corbyn
Oppose Zultanass

>>2505783
Do you get a rent-discount for saying this shit?

>>2505777
>real name is literally Arabic for "Jihadi from Syria". You cannot make this shit up.
I wish English still had names that meant things.

Remember how the Cass Review was used to shut down trans healthcare and trans rights?
Now Wes Streeting is launching his own review into mental health and autism, with the aim of providing the mentally ill and autistic shouldn't be entitled to benefits.

Source: https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/controversial-professor-to-investigate-overdiagnosis-of-mental-health-and-neurodivergence-for-labour

>>2505787
*Proving not providing, fuck yes I'm a mobile poster…

>>2505784
the truth hurts
sultana is the final nail in the coffin of the British left
I hope Jezza does some old-school stalinist manoeuvre to kick her out

Question Time is full of open Hitlerites tonight, literally saying there's an "insidious erosion of our culture" and how it's unfair to call Reform far right and they just have "legitimate concerns"
Not a single comment from a non-fascistic audience member so far.


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