/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2507568 (me)
>>2507573 (me)
nm, they look nothing like Avangards. I must've been thinking of something else I can't remember the name of.

>>2507568
Soyuz?

>>2507600
Yeah, I think you're right.
Don't know why it was in an article about nukes.

Vladimir Putin speaks at a plenary session of the Valdai Discussion Club

>>2507611
Probably journaloid "assault style weapon" moment

>>2507568
Russian Space Progam so bad people have forgot about it

>>2507714
Well they put all the money and talent in the petrochemical sector and just kept the parts of the space industry useful for defense or able to make money. To the credit of the engineers of soyuz they created a very reliable platform that was only dethroned by falcon 9 25 years after the fall of the ussr. And the people working in the sector they still design pretty cool missions and concepts but the state never follows on with the cash and will. Man I wish they made Uragan and more deep space missions a thing.

>>2507638
https://korybko.substack.com/p/re-evaluating-the-special-operation

Re-Evaluating The Special Operation In Light Of The Valdai Club’s Startling Insight

>To be clear, the Valdai Club only represents one of Russia’s policymaking factions and their insight might not accurately reflect Putin’s calculations, which could always change in any case.

>The Valdai Club, which is Russia’s premier think tank and elite networking platform at whose annual meetings Putin participates, shared some startling insight into “the changing purpose of wars”. It was included in the eponymous section of their report titled “Dr. Chaos or: How to Stop Worrying and Love the Disorder”, which was written by Oleg Barabanov, Anton Bespalov, Timofei Bordachev, Fyodor Lukyanov, Andrey Sushentsov, and Ivan Timofeev. They’re all regarded as Russia’s top policy influencers.

>They wrote on page 25 that “Russia would not risk its own socioeconomic stability for a decisive victory in a military conflict. One exception is direct full-scale aggression, but the probability of such an action against a nuclear superpower is close to zero…Perhaps the purpose of wars has changed. The contemporary objective may no longer lie in victories – wherein one party achieves all its goals – but rather in maintaining a balance necessary for a period of relative peaceful development.”

>This startling insight prompts a re-evaluation of the special operation, which has been going on for over 3,5 years, in no small part due to Putin’s restraint in not waging a US-inspired “shock-and-awe” campaign at the cost of Iraqi-like civilian casualties among what he believes to be the fraternal Ukrainian people. In light of what Russia’s top policy influencers just revealed, however, a complementary reason might be his trusted policy advisors’ reluctance to risk their country’s “socioeconomic stability for a decisive victory”.

>It can only be speculated what form this could take if Putin abandoned his restraint by ordering the bombing of bridges across the Dnieper, the total destruction of all major Ukrainian power plants, and/or targeting political sites like the Rada. Nevertheless, the salience rests in the Valdai Club’s implied assessment that pursuing “a decisive victory in a military conflict” presumably like the present one could lead to such risks, thus further contextualizing why this hasn’t yet happened and might never will.

>More insight followed on page 26. According to the authors, “The current system is not excessively unfair to any of the major players; in other words, it is not so flawed as to require revolutionary solutions. The world has experienced numerous social and political upheavals on its path to self-awareness, learning to manage nature and control the most destructive socio-political processes. This capability has now reached a significantly high level.”

>Moreover, “It appears that the era of grand ideas, overarching theories, comprehensive programmes, and great expectations is over…national plans – even the most ambitious – are based on existing opportunities and realistic, accessible means of expanding them; they do not require a fundamental restructuring of the global order.” This suggests Russia’s satisfaction with the multipolar gains since 2022 and its reluctance to risk their reversal through a “decisive victory” that might destabilize this new order.

>To be clear, the Valdai Club only represents one of Russia’s policymaking factions and their insight might not accurately reflect Putin’s calculations, which could always change in any case. Even so, it does indeed explain Russia’s willingness to compromise with the US, ideally with the aim of reforming the European security architecture as the grand strategic outcome of this conflict. Trump thinks that he can coerce Russia into concessions, however, which risks unleashing the chaos that Putin’s restraint seeks to avoid.

>>2507784
The whole report is pretty interesting.

>>2507727
They weren't dethroned by falcon, it was simply a lobbying effort by American producers. Soyuz is still reigning supreme. Well, it will get starved and stop getting upgrades, unless China does something to help, buy it off Russian hands, or Russia miraculously finds new markets

Reminder - Ukrainian copers draw maps where Russians are encircled, and that there's no breakthrough

>>2507668
Your economy on no Nordstream.

>>2506947
>>2506823
>>2504413
i guess the spam is over tomahawks? they are back at it on reddit and twitter too

>>2507784
>Putin’s restraint in not waging a US-inspired “shock-and-awe” campaign at the cost of Iraqi-like civilian casualties among what he believes to be the fraternal Ukrainian people.
Cuck?

>>2507784
>It can only be speculated what form this could take if Putin abandoned his restraint by ordering the bombing of bridges across the Dnieper, the total destruction of all major Ukrainian power plants, and/or targeting political sites like the Rada.
He's started the attacks on power plants again, so let's hope he's decided not to heed these obvious CIA glowies.

How many of you fascist leftypoltards have roped over the utter humiliation of your shithole country?

>>2508028
tbh, I've felt like doing it, but I ended up volunteering in NYC soup kitchens instead.

>>2508022
"Actually, we don't need to win"
- Putin's top think tank

>>2508030
Pick your own namefag name. I can think of many creative ideas.

>>2507784
Ahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhaha

Ukraine collapse status? Not even in the plans lol

>>2507800
Saved for reading when the bull visits

Kirishi status?
Orsk status?

>>2508038
Most of the defenders of Cucklerism engage in geopolitical hipsterism, trying to gaslight people into thinking that their everyman drives and understandings are, by their commonness alone, in error.

A lot of the problem is that there's a tendency within think tanks to produce ideas that are surprisingly novel, contrarian, even bizarre. It's how think tanks justify their existence and funding. You don't want to release a 30-page report containing the pedestrian idea "if you enter a war, win it."

>>2508057
There's also the possibility that those Valdai Club guys and Andrew Korybko reflect what Putinism really is and if you support this then you should drop the whole communist / ML act at this point, that gimmick is getting stale. There's a whole "end of history" section in there.

>>2508063
Korybko is a critic of Putin's approach, if I understand correctly. I'm not overly familiar with his beliefs, but his comments get reposted approvingly in doomer feeds a lot. I'm not detecting any fondness of that report.
If I were in Russian intel, all those authors would immediately be placed on watchlists.

>>2508063
not ML but NL
nuke lvov

Okay, here's a question for discussion: Is Putin actually naive enough to think he can get a favorable, honest deal from Trump… or is Putin's calculation that, as long as he pretends to be naive, Trump might feel that the con job is working and therefore not want to ruin it by doing something too aggressive?

Another question: How much does Christcuckoldry factor into Putin's decision-making?

Second largest oil refinery in Russia on fire, attacked by Ukr drones

https://bsky.app/profile/ukrainewarpod.bsky.social/post/3m2dvkqhfzk26

>>2508073
Russia is afraid of Western escalation. Russia thought this war would go like Crimea or Georgia. They didn't expect Western pushback. Remember this is the same country that lost to Afghanistan back when they were an actual Superpower.

>>2508109
Theater to make the domestic Ukro audience believe Cucklensky is doing something. There's a reason he does this so sporadically and pretends he has nothing that can reach Moscow.

Basically Cucktin and Cucklensky have some kind of MIC profitable agreement happening where the front has stagnant lines and where there are low-impact happenings in the rear just to sell it better. Wouldn't be surprised if there are a few insurance scams in play too.

Unapologetically me, btw.

>>2508124
Parasitic bottom line chasing MICs strike again. Daily reminder that capitalism is bad for your ability to fight wars.

How long do the sabotage attacks on oil facilities have to go on for until the human RSS feeds start doubting their efficacy on the same grounds as they doubt the efficacy of Russian drone and missile strikes due to not yet forcing a Ukrainian surrender? Because clandestine sabotage attacks within Russia have been going on for pretty much as long as the conflict itself, albeit not to the scale of Russian attacks in Ukraine.

Is efficacy even a concern? Is it the case in their mind that Russian drone strikes need to win the conflict outright, while Ukrainian ones merely have to embarrass Putin and thus every successful attack is a resounding victory while every Russian drone strike is a humiliating failure?

What comes first in this plan? That oil refineries are the only appreciable target for a 50kg warhead (of which perhaps a maximum of three will hit the target) and a narrative of destroying the Russian economy, or the other way around? Did they decide destroying the entire Russian airforce to be a slower way towards victory compared to the oil facilities? Whether they’re somehow flying these drones thousands of kilometres over a country at war or smuggling them much closer to the target, surely they’d be able to attack all sorts of targets like tank factories but it seems what everyone wants are oil facilities, is that because 50-150kg doesn’t plausibly disrupt a non-flammable target?

Many questions for why everything that happens to Ukraine is an irrelevancy while all that happens to Russia is a major event.

>>2508142
Zelensky is never going to do any significant damage to Russia's oil economy (assuming he even can) because Ukraine needs that Russian oil from India. These are performative strikes.

>>2508143
>unban me pls
how does that work?

>>2508144
Btw much of that Russian oil is entering Ukraine after being refined by Hungary :)

trapped.

>>2508158
I thought it was Russia - India - Ukraine.
Russia - Hungary - Ukraine would be even funnier.

Marx would have supported nato against russia

Marx would have supported BRICS against NATO.

marx would have supported china. critical support

>>2508241
No, full blown support. China is socialist, after all