>>2506959god will rise, and end chudcuckery
>>2506959We will be swiftly updated ITT on how low vodka supplies are in Russia
>>2506965Is that still a stereotype?
>>2506968It is with the people most affected by a burger famine
>this is /ISG/ for people who treats geopolitics like shitty map games
I remember people said they would remove this
Burgers were invented in germany i believe. Like frankfurters and berliners
>>2506971They did but the mods will always add it back in.
>>2506975I still laugh at that cringey boomer attempt to fix his party's anti-Ukrainian sentiment by clumsily trying to tap into the party's anti-woke sentiment.
>>2506982If it’s what needs to be done to placate the mods, then I’ll take it because they don’t let nafoids have a separate thread /ukr/ thread of their own.
How goes the 3 day svo?
*looks inside*
Russians attrited so hard they're back to using cavalry
Day 1500 will see the return of the gladius. Calling it now.
>>25069871. /ukr/ has a low opinion of Dugin.
2. notice how he actually mentions the problems with both sides instead of being a glowie cunt claiming to be a both-sideser but always criticizing only one side
>>2506988She looks like the SS woman in Wolfenstein in most of her pictures
>>2506991Ukraine is ruled by Galician Nazis who should be liquidated and the soldiers of the 3SAB (now part of the "Azov" corps) should be summarily mass executed after a round of cock and ball torture. On the other hand, Russian soldiers and mercenaries that torture Ukrainian POWs should be tortured to death and be skinned alive while hanging from meathooks. Happy now?
>>2506996Hmm, I dunno. Does being prompted count? Or should I take only your unprompted comments?
>>2506999go all the way and start posting the ARYAN posters of third reich era you scummy nafoid
>>2506999They are both mating pressable
>>2506994Both of them are mating pressable
>>2507001I just think that people who claim to be anti-campists should honor that label instead of being indistinguishable from pro-Ukro campists. The honest pro-Russian campist and the honest pro-Ukro campist at least have integrity.
And so the fascist state is destroying itself. Provisions for welfare and healthcare are getting destroyed whilst security apparatus spending goes up. You will lick the boot and die russnazis.
>>2506994Blonde haired, blue eyes, a look of extreme satisfaction when voicing fascist rhetoric. It’s all there.
>goddessThat’s a yikes from me dawg, there is a spectre descending on Europe, it’s the spectre of coomers getting excited over Kallas, Marin, Sandu, Von Der Leyen when she was younger, that photo of Merkel from her East German nudist days, etc.
>>2507009>blue eyesam i blind or her eyes look light brown to me?
>>2507010Nah on closer inspection her eyes are indeed brown
>>2507009
>photo of Merkel from her East German nudist dayscmon man you cannot not post that pic here
>Kallas, Marin, Sandu, Von Der Leyendont care, my only goddess i simp for is melanie jolie <3
>>2507009>that photo of Merkel from her East German nudist daysYeah, the thirsty lads need to—
wait, WHAT?
Putin is gay. That is the only explanation why he acts like he does towards male politicians.
>>2507013>In February 2022, a coalition of states including all G7 economies froze approximately US$300 billion in Russian state assets. <Ukrainian budget lacks 300 billion hryivnas for 2025Is this some kind of coded messaging?
>>2507032Yeah this smells like a Zelensky plot to steal all of Russia's frozen assets.
>>2507037I am talking about current Putin, not that Putin. There are like 5 of them.
>>2507041Fair enough. Would explain the constant pining for Trump.
>>2507026would explain his inconsistent homophobia as well
Did current Putin really say he spent a night at Blair's house, where they mingled in their pajamas, or was that NAFO slop on my feed?
>>2507037Look at their hands and fingers. That putin probably mating pressed timoshenko
>>2507060That putin was probably a sexual seducer specialist. Maybe current putin is a homo seduction specialist? There are different putins for different tasks.
>>2507064What if it's one straight dude dedicated to the mission, like the Jackal character?
>>2507037If you look closely you can see they are slightly leaning towards each other. This is why ukrainian bourgeoisie imprisoned timoshenko. She was compromised. Spies do use sexual seduction in their work.
>>2507068You mean Putin is pretending to be gay to lure homo westoids?
>>2507074Yeah, or so persuasive that he one-nights other straight dudes anyway.
Okay, I've figured it out.
He drugs them with some old KGB shit and then takes photos in sexual positions for blackmail.
>>2507063kek, I think that was one of KampucheaAnon's AI masterpieces.
>>250708114 moments of spring is kino
>>2507081Is that from The Shield and the Sword? In Putin's bio, it was that series that inspired him to enter the secret services. I've been meaning to watch it to see whether the protagonist always miraculously saves the day with cuck patience.
>>2507125There is a playlist on youtube with english subtitles. Just type 17 moments of spring
>>2507125You do need patience to enjoy it. Its a slow burn kind of series.
>>2507125No, he crashes through the window of the Bundestag duel wielding MP-40s, says “Pain Macht Frei” and guns down the Nazi high command before saving, converting and then slamming Eva Braun.
>>2507144You laugh but if Putin personally executed Zelensky in hand to hand combat and then fucked his wife after, Ukraine would have already surrendered years ago and we wouldn't have had 500 pointless /ukr/ threads of cope posting about how this time Russia really will take off the gloves.
>>2507128Different series, but I'll give it a watch.
>>2507137>Its a slow burn I have no doubt about that.
>>2507144This is the verisimilitude I like in my movies.
>>2507318That’s a new take on this conflict
>The great cock theory<whoever fucks the other leader’s wife first wins the war
>Russia really will take off the gloves.Anti-campists truly are just talking to themselves the entire time.
>When is Putin going to take the gloves off?<*effortpost disputing that framing of the conflict*>Oh soon? I’ll check in tomorrow to ask again so the oil tanker was a nothingburger…
… but nafo told me that cuckteen was cuckeeng to the cuckienth exponential for not nuking Paris?
Please stop saying cuck it's really russophobic
>>2507318Putin is the great mirror of the self, a reflection of a person's personal failings. He reflects one's personal failings regardless of whether one's attitude toward him is negative or positive.
The people who criticize Putin for his weakness and timidity are typically people of middling stature (figuratively speaking) who regret a life of sloth and underachievement.
The people who laud Putin for his monumental restraint and patience are typically the most impulsive, combative, short-fused curmudgeons around.
I always wondered why TankAnon simped so hard for Putin
Verily, the dark mirror of Putin. He's actually without attributes himself, a pure monad. If you hate something about him, it's something present in your character you wish you could excise. If you love something about him, it's something absent from your character you wish you could cultivate.
>>2507318>if action movie logic was real, wars would be over quicklyno shit
>>2507500Wha if you love to hate something about him? Od hate to love something about him?
>>2507509That requires more advanced study.
The archetype of the Putin-Negative is Spurdo anon. You can sense the personal pain and regret.
The archetype of the Putin-Positive is Tank anon. You can see quite readily the bellicosity.
>>2507523tfw his cumbersome, slow plan was to become president of Russia so he could meet his actor hero, instead of using more expedient measures. Checks out.
>>2507531I am an enjoyer of torturing my enemies, physically or mentally. And this war has been absolutely torture on the Western brains.
Russia blew up another TPP lol.
Right about now is probably when the nafoids wish they didn't ride the "Russian commuters getting no gas" thing so hard, cuz now they can't pull the "Ukraine targets oligarchs, Russia targets citizens" shit again.
>Due to the critical situation with Ukraine's power grid in Sumy and Chernihiv Oblasts following intensified Russian drone and missile strikes, rolling power outages will begin in both regions, with some users experiencing up to 67% of the day without electricity.
>>2507551Who do you think works in power plants? Poroshenko's family? Zelensky's?
This interimperialist war
must stop.
Thousands of proles have died and continue to die for nothing. Workers of the world, unite against the fascist dictatorships of Ukraine and Russia!
>>2507551didn't take too long, LMAO.
>>2507568 (me)
Or are they just Avangards that look a little different from typical pics?
https://www.lilyslynch.com/p/the-global-sumud-flotilla-the-view?
<Moldova’s other autonomous region
>This week, I covered the elections in Moldova. That piece should be coming out today. I haven’t enjoyed learning about a new country so much in a long time. I was especially taken by the autonomous region of Gagauzia. When it comes to internationally-recognized autonomous regions of Moldova, Transnistria gets all the attention. The de facto Russia-controlled rebel territory of Transnistria might be more popular with backpackers on the “dark tourism” circuit, and it may have Lenin statues, but Gagauzia is far more interesting. First of all, the Gagauz people are Turkic by ethnicity but are Orthodox Christian by confession. They are also overwhelmingly pro-Russian. They really hate the EU and the pro-EU political party that just won the parliamentary election, the Party of Action and Solidarity (PAS). In fact, just over 3% of people in Gagauzia voted for PAS on Sunday. This poor showing echoed the results of last year’s constitutional referendum on EU membership in which 95% of people in Gagauzia voted against joining the EU.
>What’s fascinating about these poor results for the pro-EU party and for the EU itself in Gagauzia is that you’ll never hear about them. The Moldovan elections were reported on in the West as if they had dealt a crushing blow to Moscow. Of course, the pro-EU Party of Action and Solidarity (PAS) did win the election. But the fact that there were such stark regional and ethnic variations strikes me as important and newsworthy. My sense is that the pro-EU/NATO side in Europe is so eager to present an image of itself as the undisputed winner in the current contest with Russia that it often papers over cracks that detract from that picture. We all know that papering over cracks doesn’t actually make them go away. If anything, cracks tend to grow wider with neglect.
>And that is exactly the way the Moldovans I spoke with this past week characterized Chisinau’s relationship to Gagauzia: as one of neglect. And indelicacy. In the few recent reports from Gagauzia that exist, the pro-Russian sentiments of the Gagauz are explained away as the result of “Russian propaganda”. There is little attempt to explore why Russian messaging would find such fertile ground in Gagauzia. Reading the handful of Western media reports that acknowledge the abysmal result for the EU referendum in the region you can tell that the journalists think that their job is to make the EU look good and popular everywhere, regardless of what the numbers say. Ironically, it is very Soviet. How big of a difference is there really between the poor sap from Deutsche Welle who encounters a 5% figure of support for the EU and who must bury it or explain it away as a product of “Russian brainwashing”, and a Soviet bureaucrat who has to fudge the numbers in a report to meet a high production quota for grain?
>Of course, there is a very real and relevant story about Gaguazia here. It is one that goes back to the late 1980s and the resurgence of nationalism in Eastern Europe. During the Soviet era, Gagauzia underwent Russification, meaning the Russian language was promoted over smaller local languages. The Gagauz language was not taught in schools, so Gagauzia was more Russified than any other region of Moldova. But with perestroika in the 1980s, the Gagauz grew interested in their national heritage and traditions. Moldovans, who were experiencing their own nationalist renaissance, hated that: they were interested in unification with Romania. In October 1990, a full-on civil war between Moldovans and the Gagauz was narrowly avoided. Gagauzia declared independence and the leadership in Chisinau mobilized thousands of people to march on the region. However, a military unit dispatched from Odessa managed to prevent any bloodshed. Gagauzia agreed to autonomy instead. Even so, the nationalist fad of the 1990s saw the Moldovan majority adopt slogans and attitudes with fascist overtones. One famous slogan used against the Russian-speaking minority was “suitcase, station, Russia”, suggesting that minorities like the Gagauz should self-deport. Chisinau still uses nationalist rhetoric to this day. In 2023, the Moldovan parliament changed the name of the country’s official language from Moldovan to Romanian. This passed almost without comment in Western media, but was viewed as hostile in Russia, where Romanian is seen as the more nationalist name and also carries pro-NATO and pro-EU associations. Naturally, it was viewed much the same in Gagauzia, where Russia is seen as a protector. In 2024, the governor of Gagauzia, Evghenia Gutul, traveled to Moscow to meet with Putin and secure his support for the region’s secession in the event that Moldova united with Romania. She also asked for Russian protection in a scenario in which Gagauzia’s separatist aims were impeded by the central government. Then, in March of this year, Gutul was arrested at Chisinau Airport, where she was to board a plane to Istanbul. She was accused of having received illegal funding from Russia for her gubernatorial campaign. In Comrat, the regional capital, thousands of people protested Gutul’s treatment by the authorities in Chisinau. Finally, less than one month before the parliamentary election, Gutul was sentenced to seven years in prison. Somehow, I think there is a bit more going on here than mere “Russian propaganda”. For its part, Turkish media has also depicted the Chisinau government’s treatment of Gutul terms unsympathetic to the pro-EU side. As Gagauz are Turkic people, goings on in Gaguazia receive far more attention here than in the West. I also find it eternally fascinating that on Europe’s Eastern flank, any nationalism that asserts an identity emphasizing separateness from Russia is to be celebrated, while any nationalism that expresses an affinity with Russia has to be suppressed. >>2507568 (me)
>>2507573 (me)
nm, they look nothing like Avangards. I must've been thinking of something else I can't remember the name of.
>>2507600Yeah, I think you're right.
Don't know why it was in an article about nukes.
>>2507611Probably journaloid "assault style weapon" moment
>>2507638https://korybko.substack.com/p/re-evaluating-the-special-operationRe-Evaluating The Special Operation In Light Of The Valdai Club’s Startling Insight
>To be clear, the Valdai Club only represents one of Russia’s policymaking factions and their insight might not accurately reflect Putin’s calculations, which could always change in any case.
>The Valdai Club, which is Russia’s premier think tank and elite networking platform at whose annual meetings Putin participates, shared some startling insight into “the changing purpose of wars”. It was included in the eponymous section of their report titled “Dr. Chaos or: How to Stop Worrying and Love the Disorder”, which was written by Oleg Barabanov, Anton Bespalov, Timofei Bordachev, Fyodor Lukyanov, Andrey Sushentsov, and Ivan Timofeev. They’re all regarded as Russia’s top policy influencers.
>They wrote on page 25 that “Russia would not risk its own socioeconomic stability for a decisive victory in a military conflict. One exception is direct full-scale aggression, but the probability of such an action against a nuclear superpower is close to zero…Perhaps the purpose of wars has changed. The contemporary objective may no longer lie in victories – wherein one party achieves all its goals – but rather in maintaining a balance necessary for a period of relative peaceful development.”
>This startling insight prompts a re-evaluation of the special operation, which has been going on for over 3,5 years, in no small part due to Putin’s restraint in not waging a US-inspired “shock-and-awe” campaign at the cost of Iraqi-like civilian casualties among what he believes to be the fraternal Ukrainian people. In light of what Russia’s top policy influencers just revealed, however, a complementary reason might be his trusted policy advisors’ reluctance to risk their country’s “socioeconomic stability for a decisive victory”.
>It can only be speculated what form this could take if Putin abandoned his restraint by ordering the bombing of bridges across the Dnieper, the total destruction of all major Ukrainian power plants, and/or targeting political sites like the Rada. Nevertheless, the salience rests in the Valdai Club’s implied assessment that pursuing “a decisive victory in a military conflict” presumably like the present one could lead to such risks, thus further contextualizing why this hasn’t yet happened and might never will.
>More insight followed on page 26. According to the authors, “The current system is not excessively unfair to any of the major players; in other words, it is not so flawed as to require revolutionary solutions. The world has experienced numerous social and political upheavals on its path to self-awareness, learning to manage nature and control the most destructive socio-political processes. This capability has now reached a significantly high level.”
>Moreover, “It appears that the era of grand ideas, overarching theories, comprehensive programmes, and great expectations is over…national plans – even the most ambitious – are based on existing opportunities and realistic, accessible means of expanding them; they do not require a fundamental restructuring of the global order.” This suggests Russia’s satisfaction with the multipolar gains since 2022 and its reluctance to risk their reversal through a “decisive victory” that might destabilize this new order.
>To be clear, the Valdai Club only represents one of Russia’s policymaking factions and their insight might not accurately reflect Putin’s calculations, which could always change in any case. Even so, it does indeed explain Russia’s willingness to compromise with the US, ideally with the aim of reforming the European security architecture as the grand strategic outcome of this conflict. Trump thinks that he can coerce Russia into concessions, however, which risks unleashing the chaos that Putin’s restraint seeks to avoid. >>2507727They weren't dethroned by falcon, it was simply a lobbying effort by American producers. Soyuz is still reigning supreme. Well, it will get starved and stop getting upgrades, unless China does something to help, buy it off Russian hands, or Russia miraculously finds new markets
>>2507668Your economy on no Nordstream.
>>2506947>>2506823>>2504413i guess the spam is over tomahawks? they are back at it on reddit and twitter too
>>2507784>Putin’s restraint in not waging a US-inspired “shock-and-awe” campaign at the cost of Iraqi-like civilian casualties among what he believes to be the fraternal Ukrainian people. Cuck?
>>2507784>It can only be speculated what form this could take if Putin abandoned his restraint by ordering the bombing of bridges across the Dnieper, the total destruction of all major Ukrainian power plants, and/or targeting political sites like the Rada.He's started the attacks on power plants again, so let's hope he's decided not to heed these obvious CIA glowies.
How many of you fascist leftypoltards have roped over the utter humiliation of your shithole country?
>>2508028tbh, I've felt like doing it, but I ended up volunteering in NYC soup kitchens instead.
>>2508022"Actually, we don't need to win"
- Putin's top think tank
>>2508030Pick your own namefag name. I can think of many creative ideas.
>>2507784Ahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahhaha
Ukraine collapse status? Not even in the plans lol
>>2507800Saved for reading when the bull visits
Kirishi status?
Orsk status?
>>2508038Most of the defenders of Cucklerism engage in geopolitical hipsterism, trying to gaslight people into thinking that their everyman drives and understandings are, by their commonness alone, in error.
A lot of the problem is that there's a tendency within think tanks to produce ideas that are surprisingly novel, contrarian, even bizarre. It's how think tanks justify their existence and funding. You don't want to release a 30-page report containing the pedestrian idea "if you enter a war, win it."
>>2508063Korybko is a critic of Putin's approach, if I understand correctly. I'm not overly familiar with his beliefs, but his comments get reposted approvingly in doomer feeds a lot. I'm not detecting any fondness of that report.
If I were in Russian intel, all those authors would immediately be placed on watchlists.
>>2508063not ML but NL
nuke lvov Okay, here's a question for discussion: Is Putin actually naive enough to think he can get a favorable, honest deal from Trump… or is Putin's calculation that, as long as he pretends to be naive, Trump might feel that the con job is working and therefore not want to ruin it by doing something too aggressive?
Another question: How much does Christcuckoldry factor into Putin's decision-making?
Second largest oil refinery in Russia on fire, attacked by Ukr drones
https://bsky.app/profile/ukrainewarpod.bsky.social/post/3m2dvkqhfzk26>>2508073Russia is afraid of Western escalation. Russia thought this war would go like Crimea or Georgia. They didn't expect Western pushback. Remember this is the same country that lost to Afghanistan back when they were an actual Superpower.
>>2508109Theater to make the domestic Ukro audience believe Cucklensky is doing something. There's a reason he does this so sporadically and pretends he has nothing that can reach Moscow.
Basically Cucktin and Cucklensky have some kind of MIC profitable agreement happening where the front has stagnant lines and where there are low-impact happenings in the rear just to sell it better. Wouldn't be surprised if there are a few insurance scams in play too.
How long do the sabotage attacks on oil facilities have to go on for until the human RSS feeds start doubting their efficacy on the same grounds as they doubt the efficacy of Russian drone and missile strikes due to not yet forcing a Ukrainian surrender? Because clandestine sabotage attacks within Russia have been going on for pretty much as long as the conflict itself, albeit not to the scale of Russian attacks in Ukraine.
Is efficacy even a concern? Is it the case in their mind that Russian drone strikes need to win the conflict outright, while Ukrainian ones merely have to embarrass Putin and thus every successful attack is a resounding victory while every Russian drone strike is a humiliating failure?
What comes first in this plan? That oil refineries are the only appreciable target for a 50kg warhead (of which perhaps a maximum of three will hit the target) and a narrative of destroying the Russian economy, or the other way around? Did they decide destroying the entire Russian airforce to be a slower way towards victory compared to the oil facilities? Whether they’re somehow flying these drones thousands of kilometres over a country at war or smuggling them much closer to the target, surely they’d be able to attack all sorts of targets like tank factories but it seems what everyone wants are oil facilities, is that because 50-150kg doesn’t plausibly disrupt a non-flammable target?
Many questions for why everything that happens to Ukraine is an irrelevancy while all that happens to Russia is a major event.
>>2508142Zelensky is never going to do any significant damage to Russia's oil economy (assuming he even can) because Ukraine needs that Russian oil from India. These are performative strikes.
>>2508143
>unban me pls
how does that work?
>>2508144Btw much of that Russian oil is entering Ukraine after being refined by Hungary :)
>>2508158I thought it was Russia - India - Ukraine.
Russia - Hungary - Ukraine would be even funnier.
Marx would have supported nato against russia
Marx would have supported BRICS against NATO.
marx would have supported china. critical support
>>2508241No, full blown support. China is socialist, after all
>>2508115>Remember this is the same country that lost to Afghanistan back when they were an actual Superpower.<Equating the USSR with RussiaUkrop and Russian nationalists atleast have one thing in common, kill yourself
>>2508109Just a small and smokey fire. Probably good for Russian economy.
>>2508115>Remember this is the same country that lost to Afghanistan back when they were an actual Superpower.So did all of NATO plus several more of its allies.
>>2508265Afghanistan really is the top dog militarily.
What % of russians are rightoids?
Pokrovsk status?
>>2508115>lost to Afghanistan but they didnt though. When they left, the local communist government still controlled all the important part of the country, and was even in the process of slowly winning with only economic support and weapons deliveries until ussr got destroyed by gorbie&co
>>2508284In government and military? 90%.
As percentage of total population? Probably 20-30%.
>At today’s rally, the Euro-America NGO fan club announced the formation of a so-called “National Convention” and issued a declaration claiming:
>Sovereignty resides with the people;
>The October parliamentary elections were “rigged,” rendering current authorities “unconstitutional” and terminating their mandate;
>The establishment of a “peaceful transitional government” to assume all state functions, restore EU integration, and ensure Georgia’s security.
>Opera singer Paata Burchuladze publicly presented the plan, urging employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs to cease cooperation with the Georgian government, labeling current authorities a “junta.”
>Burchuladze also called for the immediate arrest of government officials including Irakli Kobakhidze, Shalva Papuashvili, Anzor Chubinidze, Mamuka Mdinaradze, Tea Tsulukiani, and Bidzina Ivanishvili.
>Additionally, Murtaz Zodelava, a member of the opposition United National Movement (UNM) party’s Political Council—who was recently detained by the State Security Service on charges of resisting law enforcement—appealed for the creation of a force to take control of the Presidential Palace, describing it as the initial step in assuming power.
damn, another maidan in process?
Almost 4 years into this retarded inter-imperialist war and neither side has produced a single vehicle explicitly designed to counter drone spam. Not because they can't, but because this is just ritual blood sacrifice for the bourgeoisie who are enjoying this conflict.
>>2508499meat is cheaper…simple as
>>2508406>appealed for the creation of a force to take control of the Presidential Palace, describing it as the initial step in assuming power.<They've done exactly thatYou basically never see this in the west, mass protests, burning cars, smashing up civilians buildings sure, but actually making the breaching and seizure of central government buildings an explicit goal that the people on the ground actually carry out is stuff you only achieve via organised action (and even if it happens by chance like January 6th, they suddenly turn into tourists) and are the Georgian masses really spurred into organised revolutionary action because NGOs had to declare foreign funding? Overthrowing their bourgeois government to replace it with.. a pro-EU bourgeois government? An opera singer moonlighting as a political radical calling for the arrest of the current leadership?
Man, with all the mysterious drone activity lately (which was also in New Jersey last year) and separately with the distinctive buzzing sound of the Geran-2 drone, I'm pretty sure there's a thriller/horror concept in there somewhere.
>>2508499Drones get countered by jammers
They are a meme
a Euro-sceptic who opposes supporting Ukraine has won parliamentary elections in Czech republic. The dynamic duo of Hungary and Slovakia seems like it will expand to a trio.
But then maybe the Czechs and Slovakia should just join up and form one bigger country…
>>2508607czechs are massive euro-cucks
nothing will result from this
>>2508678Maybe Czechia is too close to the Good Countries for nato to pull out the stops like in Moldova and Romania
>>2508607NO NO NO NO NO IT CAN'T BE EUROPE WILL BE FREE OF PUTIN AND ILLIBERALISM
MILLIONS OF GERMANS AND FRENCH MUST WAKE UP NOW OR IT WILL BE LATE
>>2508714Crazy once you realize this dude is bascially just an unemployed bum and shitposter that is high on online politics. Basically just like the average imageboard poster.
>>2508471>>2508435remember when ukies called this the "cope cage"? I still remember.
>>2508607>Czech>Serbia>Sloveniait' be great if they do back Yugoslavia.
>>2508607>a Euro-sceptic who opposes supporting Ukraine has won parliamentary elections in Czech republicThat's all based but knowing what European politics are like he probably also wants to put Roma and Muslims into camps.
>>2508067He doesn't strike me as a radical, and he's a fellow at a Russian government think tank (RIAC). Or has been:
https://russiancouncil.ru/en/andrew-korybko/I dunno, I've never met him. But I think he presents a relatively objective take on Russian policy, and he's critical of other pro-Russian influencers (although he rarely if ever names anyone, a polite person he is) for misleading people, he says.
>Many observers from the Mainstream Media (MSM) and the Alt-Media Community (AMC) alike were surprised by Russia’s support for Trump’s Gaza peace plan. Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov was the first to express such a position by declaring that “Russia always supports and welcomes any steps by Trump that seek to avert the tragedy that is now unfolding. We want this plan to be realized, so that it may help steer events in the Middle East toward a peaceful path.” […] The reason why Russia’s support for Trump’s Gaza peace plan surprised so many observers is because they were misled by some top “Non-Russian Pro-Russian” (NRPR) influencers into thinking that Putin is secretly anti-Zionist and allied with Iran against Israel as part of some plan to jointly liberate Palestine. The MSM considers this conspiracy theory to be something bad while many in the AMC consider it to be something good and that’s why both amplify it. The problem, however, is that there’s no truth to it.https://korybko.substack.com/p/russias-support-for-trumps-gaza-peace >>2508607You ever notice how apart from Slovakia, the left anti NATO, anti EU candidates/parties are never allowed to get the 5% threshold? BSW didn't, Stalico didn't either. Only right wing slop "populists" are allowed to get above 5%.
>>2508920Looking forward to seeing the phrase "potemkinism" itt every time someone says something out of line with nato propaganda
>"Foreign agents in Georgia will be completely neutralized following today’s riots.
>The protesters who attempted to storm the presidential palace committed a criminal offense."
>— Georgian PM Irakli Kokhabidze
looks like the USAIDS bots will be spending some time in jail.
>>2508989torture and kill them, zero torelance for agents of the reich and their allies.
transnistria status?
>>2509018AfD and Die Linke are the only parties against militarization of Germany. Funnily enough, red-brown alliance is a thing
>>2509049Ukrainian weapons production is done outside of Ukraine, thoughbeit
>>2508607>Euro-sceptic who opposes supporting Ukraine has won parliamentary elections in Czech republic. The dynamic duo of Hungary and Slovakia seems like it will expand to a trio.It would have already spread to Romania and Moldova, were it not for EU interference (banning parties, candidates, etc.)
>>2509018I think the thing you're missing is the fact that a lot of these right-wing populist parties that appear to be slaking the thirst for disruptive politics and attacking the "elitism" of the status quo, never actually end up doing anything to that effect once elected. Or even while unelected the ostensibly populist rhetoric is merely a thin veneer over extremely pro-establishment positions that will appeal to the bourgeois political funders, where they're either fearful of something
genuinely disruptive growing or otherwise are pissed off at losing out in the only democracy that exists, amongst themselves as the bourgeoisie and need to have a second attempt by briefly including proles in their spat by throwing some populist chum to shake the support of the established parties a bit.
Like, despite the hitherto narrative being that the EU and NATO were extremely popular in central and eastern Europe due to the inherent threat Putinist Russia supposedly posed to former Communist states, paradoxically, support is flaking for both in the face of a sustained, armed European conflict with Russia because that now involves spending tax Euros, Krona, Zloty, etc on Ukraine at the demand of Washington DC and Brussels rather than solely on the interests of the domestic bourgeoisie.
So the domestic bourgeoisie of these countries start to see EU and NATO membership as "empire" because they're coming to realise the capital they've generated via membership isn't entirely their capital, but via the state they've been claiming both have been saving their nations from empire for decades now, how do they 180 this? By now claiming that they're being culturally colonised by the same "woke mind virus" that Trump is banging on about, that such a thing doesn't exist in Russia and Russia has proven themselves to be quite harmless in Ukraine according to Cucktinists.
Next no doubt will come the attitude that if the former Communist states don't want to fund their own protection, then why should the western Europeans who "saved them" in the first place? But this process of telling the EU to fuck off an Poland Stronk the second EU/NATO stop paying out and start cashing in (as in the comic), cannot be delegated to anything other than a rightoid populist party because the lib-left are supportive of social progressive policies of the EU and, more importantly, won't just relinquish tax money from the command of Brussels and Washington but then have demands of their own about what state funds should instead be spent on while rightoids are happy to steal back money and have that just sit in the pocket of the wealthy, so long as it's the pocket of their own wealthy.
>>2509170Poland be like
>GIVASand unlike Ukraine they don't even have the excuse of fighting an active war.
>>2509170capitalism is great until you run out of other peoples money!
>>2509170Polish politics makes so much more sense now. No wonder they love capitalism. Anyone will love capitalism when they've been given 10 trillion dollars from other countries. Literally the Israel of the European Union.
Uh, NAFO bros, why is Zelensky suddenly begging for an aerial ceasefire again like back in March? I thought he had the initiative with those refinery strikes.
>>2509241There's also a research
https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2025/10/03/the-frontiers-of-value/ that says that Japan is the largest (relative to it's economy) beneficiary of trade. The best examples of capitalism are literally welfare queens lol
Hopefully Putin doesn't cuck to Blumpf again by adhering to a 30-day energy/infra ceasefire that Ukraine breaks immediately… and then throwing in a bonus 6-month unilateral ceasefire for nothing.
>>2509242Understanding your opponent is an important element of any war. And Zelensky knows Putin loves making unilateral gestures of goodwill.
>>2509248That's the only thing I'm worried about. Every time Russia applies the squeeze to Ukraine, Putin does something ridiculous like retreating as a "gesture of goodwill," reassigning effective people like Surovikin, or giving unilateral ceasefires to Trump.
>>2509248>Pro-Banderite disgusted by a willingness to engage in diplomacy, considering it weak and humiliatingWell stop the fucking presses, that's quite the revelation
>>2509251>reassigning effective people like SurovikinHoly nostalgia that's a name I haven't heard in years. Is he still under house arrest for supporting Prigozhin? Lmao Putin getting rid of one of his only effective military leaders just because of an attempted coup smh.
>>2509248>>2509251i kind of think the russians like the slow pace. if you're playing the long game it can make some sense. the west is stuck in a losing war that it can neither turn around nor abandon. And it can't really do le pivot to asia while ukraine drags on. if you see all these conflicts as connected, and see russia and china's fates as connected, it might make sense to want to keep things where they are and moving slowly.
Zelensky called for a "unilateral cease-fire" in the air after today's massive shelling of Ukraine.
"A unilateral cease-fire in the sky is possible, and it can open the way to real diplomacy. America and Europe must act to make Putin stop," Zelensky wrote on his telegram channel.
At the same time, he did not explain what is meant by a "unilateral cease-fire in the sky." Does it mean that Ukraine or Russia should declare it unilaterally? Or does Zelensky mean by this that the cease-fire will only be in the sky, while the fighting on land will continue?
Zelensky also said in his address that
today Ukraine was attacked by more than 50 missiles and about 500 attack drones. Infrastructure facilities were also affected. It is known about 10 injured and 5 dead.
"They attacked with cruise missiles, shahids, and daggers. Lviv, Ivano-Frankivsk, Zaporizhia, Chernihiv, Sumy, Kharkiv, Kherson, Odessa, Kirovohrad regions were under attack," Zelensky wrote.
It became known that the Sparrow Industrial Park in Lviv stored a lot of cargo received from Poland, including components for the assembly of UAVs and other equipment.
>>2509255stop huffing the copium
no one likes long wars
not a single person
not a single country
not a single government
the dream of every military leader is to win decisively in a week with minimal casualties
>>2509254Surovhin had warm ties with Prig while Putin did. During the rebellion, he dropped a vid pleading with Wagner to stop. He's had Russian roles outside the Ukraine conflict since then.
>>2509258When Japan invaded China, Westoid press was urging Japan on by running first pages saying that Japan will mop up Chinese resistance in 2-3 months. Their goal was to make Japan stuck in China. Similarly, they were running op-eds urging Germany to invade USSR by claiming that Germany will destroy USSR in months also
In other words, you are confusing real actual reality with propaganda image out of bourgeois warmonger press
>>2509258There used to be a lot of patient-chud quoting from Sun Tzu until…
>Thus, though we have heard of stupid haste in war, cleverness has never been seen associated with long delays.>There is no instance of a country having benefited from prolonged warfare.I think the real lesson was not that the patient chuds were wrong but that, much like with the Bible, you can find quotes in classic texts to support anything.
3 years or even "like 5 years" is not really a notably long war in the grand scheme of things, people make the point of
>Well by THIS point in WW2
when length is not the notable part of the World Wars
>>2509270That's racist to flies
>>2509258>>2509258>the dream of every military leaderputin is a civilian
>>2509269imagine if ww2 got stuck to a slow grind in italy for 3 years while nothing happened to speed it up for either side
>>2509272it's the dream of any civilian leader too, you don't want a longer and longer war going on forever, you want a quick war that ends in 2 years or less
>>2509274Imagining that has to involve ignoring what made the World Wars notable.
>>2509275But this is wrong, both military and civilian men dream of forever wars because it feeds the MIC
Soviet texts like this
https://www.marxists.org/russkij/stalin/t14/t14_57.htm show quite clearly how MIC-infested countries in crisis have better GDP growth rates compared to countries that don't militarize. It is quite obvious that bourgeois leaders, military and civilian alike, LOVE wars and want them to last as long as possible
>>2509281that'd be true if it was a distant war, but ukraine is within arms reach of their greatest assets economically and politically, if you are engaging in a war on your border, you want that war to end as quickly as possible, the winter war for example did not last 5 years so the soviet union could build up its military industry, it lasted as long as it absolutely needed to take, the soviet union slowly disintegrated itself however with the afghanistan war, which weakened its military and economy
>>2509256There's a lot going on in that quote.
It's possible he (or his social-media staff) meant to write "unconditional ceasefire" for the air, not "unilateral ceasefire" for the air.
Another possibility is that he meant a unilateral aerial ceasefire on Ukraine's part. For a long time, there's been some nervousness in the Westoid press about Ukraine's refinery strikes, likely because of international tycoon interests. Zelensky could be offering a unilateral ceasefire in return for more NATO involvement on Ukrainian soil.
Then there's the possibility that he thinks Russia can be pressured into adhering to a unilateral aerial ceasefire while Ukraine continues its aerial activity. It's a comical idea, but the Russian clown car did actually give Trump a unilateral aerial ceasefire on energy targets for seven months.
US believes Tomahawks won’t help Ukraine – FT>The limited number of long-range missiles and sporadic strikes won’t turn the tide of the conflict, the paper reported, citing officialshttps://swentr.site/news/625867-tomahawks-wont-help-ukraine/Translation: they're already on their way
If Cucktin finally nukes Lvov because Moscow gets Tomahawked to death I will retract all Cuck allegations for the rest of the war.
>>2509299Really not that much of a stake tbh
>>2509292
Yea, same song and dance.
>US is considering
>Russia warns
>US probably starts sending covertly
>Russia detects this and begins climbdown about how it won't change anything
>US affirming won't change anything
>>2509300Trve…I wish Russia was being led by a leader willing to retaliate…
Putin is just doing his best Xi impression. Do nothing (drastic). Win.
How's that Ukie debt to GDP looking? What happened to the German economy? Macron on the fritz yet?
>>2509303He's been retaliating well on the conventional front the last week or two - look at Zelensky begging for an aerial ceasefire again - but we'll see how unrelenting he is this time. Ukrainian officials are talking about Russian plans for an extended blackout in Kiev, and Zelensky is threatening to reciprocate against Moscow with a blackout. All good signs if we can use our hoodoo to stop Putin taking calls from Trump.
>>2509302Well to pay Spurdo his due, a key part of the dance is Russia pointing out that such weapons aren't something Ukraine can use by themselves as soon as they're received, which is then corroborated by westoid media in at least admitting Trump intends to help
plan routes for the missiles to avoid Russian AA, but stopping short of outright confirming that claim on the basis someone with too many "y"s in his name is going to be the one who will ultimately press "Fire", after US technicians have created a strike plan, twisted all the dials, keyed in the super sekret launch codes, etc.
That being said, similar to
>>2509289 in
>For a long time, there's been some nervousness in the Westoid press about Ukraine's refinery strikes, likely because of international tycoon interests.the US openly helping facilitate these strikes will likely go down in history, along side "we'll just fund Ukraine using Russian money.. and we're not even at war with them or treatied to help Ukraine lmao!", as significant gambles in the US's and the West's standing on the world stage.
>>2509308From what I know, Putin hasn't taken any victory points yet like Kyiv or Odesa and it really doesn't matter if NATO has to buy up mercs or overextend for a while because the war goal meter is falling every day russia does not capture a victory point.
>>2509275>dream whisperer says…whatever the initial dreams might have been, a quick war didn't happen. the only question is how long the long war is going to be. in some situations, like where your enemy is the one being atritted and has other military agendas he'd like to get to but can't, a longer long war might be preferable.
>>2509312>Putin hasn't taken any victory points yet like Kyiv or OdesaThose being the Russian victory points as defined by… Ukraine.
>>2509170the fun about that graphic is that it doesn't reflect that the contribution presents itself mostly as a power influence, loans, and interests. though Germans might think other countries are parasitic, Germany gets the best of being the "donor" in that list.
>>2509291oh no, they'll send the cat to the front.
>>2509315Dude, that's HOI4/generic paradox game logic. You can't sue with AI for peace until you get enough victory points
>>2509313This, the only reason why NATO is willing to reciprocate in funding a longer war and Kiev to keep bussing people to the front, is because when all else fails, you just have to hope that something
mostly out of your control happens to Russia in the intervening years while you collapse that will save you in the 11th hour.
Essentially, NATO has gone through plans A through Y, Plan Z is just this meme.
>>2509049oof some porkies be angry.
Toxic fumes over Lvov right now.
>>2509256>"unilateral cease-fire in the sky."when Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is hitting hard.
>>2509334Thanks “no u” anon, I needed some feedback in knowing the post irked you, but that you also couldn’t really dispute it outside of essentially asking
>well what if it’s the country that hasn’t conducted a single wave of general mobilisation so far that needs rescuing by an act of god, not the one that’s kidnapping people off the street just to fill the foxholes and wondering loudly to its allies where their multibillion dollar budget for next year is coming from? interimperialist war
ukraine is fascist
russia is fascist
>>2509352Putin is stuck in this war until he dies. It is the new Afghanistan that will lead to the collapse of Russia just like how the Afghan war depleted the Soviets. Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!
>>2509355I think with Putin dies, Russia should honor him by putting his body into a cannon and firing it into the sewer.
>The Burshtyn TPP, Ladyzhyn TPP, and gas storage facilities have been hit in the Ivano-Frankivsk and Vinnytsia regions.
I wonder if all this pounding of the electrical system of ukraine force the nafo dog to leave the chat.
I spoke too soon, nafo apparently got some solar panels or something similar.
>>2509352>wrecking its own economyLMAO then, Russia would like to keep it forever wrecking EU's economy.
that guy sucks in many aspects. I remember once he talked about some things that were fabrications, mixed with historical facts, but I don't remember the specifics.well, typical burger teaching in Texas.
>>2509372A truly fitting punishment for MIC ghouls
>>2509334If we're seeing what Russia is gaining, the military pay and coffin money is transforming Russia socioeconomically, as poorer regions now are getting rich. There's partial reindustrialization, and Russia is better off, in terms of wages and GDP per capita (real, not nominal), than before the war began.
Now, in terms of NATO getting anywhere, yes, the effects of military Keynesianism have stalled out in Russia, with growth only expected to be 1.6% this year. There are serious questions of sustainability past 2027, which is why I'm saying the war will last.
But at the same time, Ukraine and the West is saddled with a 500 billion reconstruction bill, Ukraine is partially depopulated by refugee flows (and they won't come back because Ukraine's one of the poorest countries in Europe), and Ukraine is up to 100% of GDP in debt.
I generally think Russia is winning; you can go "at what cost" all you want, but Russia isn't losing much to date once you consider non-Western countries have substantial casualty tolerance. Territory is being gained slowly; without direct Western intervention, Donbass will either fall or be on the brink by the end of 2026. Ukraine's fighting will is strong, but it'll break after hyperinflation kicks in or casualties end up too high. And Russian military capacity is now replenishing. By Western accounts, Russian stockpiles are now growing again, and the Russian armed forces is likely more capable than it was when it started the war.
I generally see this as Mao's "you fight your war and I'll fight mine", by Western standards, Russia's in a quagmire. But by Russian, BRICS, and Chinese standards, Russia's doing great, although there's much room for improvement.
>>2509385some good points but mostly wrong
>>2509385>>2509394 (me)
nm, I'm messing with you. Been waiting for my chance to do the meme…
>>2509170The worst offender here is clearly Luxembourg since it is in net contributions, and not per capita.
Luxembourg, with a population of 670k, gets the same gibs as Spain which has a population of 48million!
>>2509352>"keep russia bogged down wrecking it's economy"I don't know which is more depressing. His denial that the west and Europe isn't paying a massive cost in this war and that Russia is going to croak first anyway. Or that he knows that Europe is fucked, but he knows that the chains of social control and propaganda are much more stronger in Europe so that the leaders can go much further with their shit in cannibalizing welfare states and wages and sending the money to Ukraine and not be challenged domestically as long as Ukraine doesn't collapse or something huge.
>>2509247they're allowed to print nudes in a tabloid?
>>2509265This just isn't true at all. If you look at NY Times articles from August to November 1937 about the fighting in Shanghai, the articles are basically doing an early 2022 pro-Ukraine version of how the Chinese troops were deterring the Japanese advance at every axis and how the Japanese weren't making any significant progress. Then when the Japanese outflanked the Nationalist Chinese forces in Oct/Nov, there's basically total silence about the Chinese collapse.
>>2509247>smuggling her inuygha how? she's literally whale sized.
I love the red-tops. jfc.
>>2509479I judge every country's intelligence by their tabloids and newspapers. Based off their papers I think British people are among the most retarded people to have ever existed on earth. And I can double check this by looking at their voting records where they've voted Conservative for like 90 of the past 100 years.
>>2509425Can someone cut from this the stuff about nazi's at around 55m-1:00:00 mark?
He talks about everyone having nazi tattoos and his commanders calling everyone untermenschen and saying the nazi occupation of france was based actually.
>>2509385>>2509425which one is right?
>>2509510I dunno what you’re so incredulous about, IIRC we both agreed that these attacks aren’t destroying the facilities and you made the claim then and now that the attacks are about destroying demand for oil.
What do you want from me? To be as impressed about small and smokey fires as yourself despite that understanding? Are you perhaps also impressed by having keys jangled in front of you?
>>2509296Don't they only make like 50 a year
>>2509413Luxembourg shouldn't exist
Why do people want me to believe that the same West that fought brutal wars throughout its 2500 year history over things much less important, is just going to roll over and accept losing this war while putting less than 1% of it's GDP into it and also while not sacrificing a single soldier (Ukro meat shields notwithstanding)
There are only two possible reasons. Either this war is nowhere near as important as people make it out to be so EU/US are not putting much money/soldiers into it. Or EU/US are winning and getting what they want out of it, making further spending unnecessary.
>>2509540They won’t fight it directly, so that’s a pretty big limitation on how much they’re going to spend on it, that being said 1% of geedeepeepee being spent for years on saving face because sanctions didn’t work as expected is pretty stupid and whether it’s necessary or not, sacrificing healthcare and other social programs on a conflict they’re not fighting and Russia has supposedly already lost is not likely to remain popular in the long term.
>>2506950There seems to be something fucked up going on with Russia's drobe production
https://www.dw.com/en/russia-africa-drones-ukraine-war-forced-labor-human-rights/a-72881545I have some contacts with a brazilian woman who sent me their website
https://program-start.com/And according to her not only it's real but also widely pushed by brazilian beauty influences
https://xcancel.com/conradorodrigo0/status/1973092610194415973The cherry on top is that apparently the portuguese website doesn't mention that you'll have to pay the equivalent of 300$ per month for a language course
>>2509543They also target only girls between 18 and 22
>>2509543Can't wait for Ziggers to try to justify Russia tricking immigrants into working dangerous non-unionized jobs with low pay. Anything for muh Russia amirite? Socialism? Who cares?
>>2509546bro just minimise the thread. spend time reading things you enjoy reading.
>>2509482I think every country have some sort of retarded tabloid.
>The Russian economy must be booming.
reminder that this nafoposter never engages in the EU economy recession discussion, nor in the impossibility for ukraine to sustain itself without nato givas.
>>2509540>Why do people want me to believe that the same West that fought brutal wars throughout its 2500 year history over things much less important, is just going to roll over and accept losing this war while putting less than 1% of it's GDP into it and also while not sacrificing a single soldier (Ukro meat shields notwithstanding)Because the military power of imperialism is in decline as is domestic patience with wars to expand liberal capitalism. This war dwarfs the scale and involvement of US wars in recent history in a time of great turmoil and stagnation. The war did not overcome, as promised, the decade of turmoil leading up to 2022. It accelerated such a thing and made it feed into global power shifts that force US attention elsewhere.
Ukraine was always the furthest point of overextension that immediately failed, whether you're marking 2003 or 2014 or 2022 as the start point. It is untenable as the world changes and no longer supports this projection of power. That's why Russia can wait the west out while the west grasps onto the straw of some budget war. This is a far cry from western goals and seeks to obscure political, military readiness, and economic costs behind the US defense budget.
>>2509546Bordiga would've supported Putin
>>2509552that guy is a troll (using nafo tier narrative, but Im not even convinced he actually believes his own shit), I doubt hes an actual leftcom
>>2509556The Zigger cries out in anger as he whips immigrants.
>>2509556also a continuous samefagger, and possibly a ban evader.
>>2509578>ANYONE I DON'T LIKE IS A SAMEFAGCalm down Ivan stop with the projecting. Just because you like to hop around on VPNs to defend Putin doesn't mean the rest of us feel compelled to do the same.
A building in Moscow's Technopolis special economic zone caught fire, where companies producing drones are located.
https://bsky.app/profile/wartranslated.bsky.social/post/3m2h4fgr3nc2uthe only guy who uses "Ivan", the same retard who justified nazism in ukraine, runs with panicum to say that he doesn't ban evade.
>>2509602Apparently she was a nazi and deserved it (I wholeheartedly trust everyone who tells me Ukraine is fascist)
I’m thinking there’s some bad faith coming from these fellas
>>2509600Fuck you Putin for not sending an oreshnik on Zelenskys head when it was possible
I sincrely hope the russian army mutinies and puts his monke head on a spike.
I used to laugh at prigozhin, but the man was right. He understood that putin is playing Le Master Strategist while russians are dying when he could just steamroll ukraine and be done with the shitshow
Fuck you Putin
>>2509540Instead of crying about gdp how about you do the fucking math on how long it's going to take them to replace all the equipment they've lost. In fact why not just try and tell us how long it's going to take them to actually build and deliver however many patriots they've bought and promised them?
Muh gdp. All the money in the world doesn't matter if there's nothing to buy with it you mongo.
>>2509600Why do most random buildings when hit with explosives produce a huge column of fire and black smoke when struck with relatively small explosive charge. These buildings themselves are mostly steel and concrete. Does every one of them have a tub of flammable chemicals waiting there?
>>2509540> that fought brutal wars throughout its 2500 year historyI did not know the European man lives across 2500 year simultaneously
>>2509540People have constructed this war as between "industrial Russia vs. deindustrialized NATO." There might be some elements of truth in that. But the global trend has actually been towards smaller and mid-sized countries now having the technology and skills to design and build their own weapons. Like people talk about multipolarity but they don't consider how Turkey fits into that. That's just one example.
But you see this everywhere. You go into maker spaces or electronic stores, you don't need Lockheed or UAC to manufacture airframes. You can do it yourself with a 3D printer at much lower cost. I have one now, for peaceful civilian purposes, but I want to manufacture my own drone, the most expensive part will just be the radio receiver. Anyhow even small hobbyist teams can convert commercial drone tech into a weapon or an ISR platform. High-performance GPS systems and high-definition cameras are now widely available and cheap. Much of the manufacturing technology in this Ukrainian recruitment video is commercially available.
>>2509600It's over.
You had a good run, but Zelensky is begging for an aerial ceasefire again.
There are just too many videos of Ukrainian energy/industrial sites getting rekt in the last 72 hours for the penis pianist to be happy.
>>2509666I hope cucktin does not agree to the ceasefire and completely cripples ukro
>>2509669March 2025:
>Ukrainian energy/infra getting rekt (third operation of its kind since Nov 2022 that may or may not have been short-lived like the previous two)>Trump begs Putin for 30-day energy ceasefire because the US realizes that Ukraine can't sustain such attacks>Putin accepts>Ukraine violates the ceasefire immediately, and the US doesn't give a shit>Peskov says that Putin intends to keep adhering to the 30-day ceasefireApril 2025
>Russia announces 30 days are up>Russia doesn't resume energy/infra strikes for half a year anyway[fast forward to now]
>Russia resumes energy/infra strikes>Zelensky demanding a ceasefire again because the strikes are painfulAre we gonna loop on Tsar Cuck or not? :)
At least Russia is hitting the railway logistics now after almost four years…
That might be another thing that's suddenly terrified Zel.
kek, Ukraine just hit the TPP in Belgorod again, NAFOids celebrating…
Then within half an hour, Russian drones blacked out all Kharkov, NAFOids bitching like little babies…
Did Russia finally read American slop on the OODA loop? Becoming much more efficient in retaliations…
>>2509717 (me)
I like to think there's a connection and Monke's forces have become more efficient, anyway…
Anyone know what the deal is with Russia focusing half its energy strike efforts on Chernigov? There used to be some spergs around here making the case that Chernigov is a pressure point in the entire Ukrainian power grid, but I forget the details.
>>2509647Insulation or other materials?
>>2509697>now after almost four years1) First:
2024, Odessa.
2) Second:
Somewhere in Ukraine, 2022.
3) Third
Chaplino, Dnipropetrovsk.
And many more. only libs have the memory of a goldfish, and start to talk out of their asses. do you have your head up your butt?
>>2509766Given that you can't distinguish between a car and a train - or even count to two/three - I doubt your ability to analyze much of anything, champion.
These train attacks are new. Even the hohols are whining about them being new:
>@visegrad24
>Oct 4
>BREAKING:
>Russia has started attacking Ukrainian passenger trains with suicide drones.
Muh passenger trains. The truth is that for years Russia has let these logistics trains slide for reasons explained here:
>@mog_russEN
>Oct 4
>Zelensky came up with the so-called weapon-passenger trains, where, as part of the human shield tactic, wagons for transporting weapons are attached to passenger trains.
>This tactic used to work well for Zelensky - but now the Russians have had enough.
Trump Has Been Bamboozled About Ukraine’s War Prospectshttps://larrycjohnson.substack.com/p/trump-has-been-bamboozled-about-ukraines
>What I want to focus on is Sy Hersh’s latest SubStack piece on the War in Ukraine: NO END IN SIGHT FOR UKRAINE. The really interesting part of Sy’s piece is not that Sy is drinking the kool aid about the war in Ukraine being a stalemate… Rather it is the fact that his sources in the Trump administration are spewing this nonsense. Knowing Sy for more than 45 years, I am confident that he is accurately reporting what the sources — unnamed — are telling him.
>Sy, drawing on interviews with U.S. officials linked to the Trump administration and Russia experts, paints a grim picture of the Russia-Ukraine war, ongoing since February 2022, with no resolution in sight. The piece blends insights from intelligence sources, diplomatic perspectives, and historical analogies to argue that the conflict has settled into a brutal stalemate, with economic pressures and shifting U.S. policies complicating prospects for peace.
>First, let’s clarify the meaning of stalemate… A stalemate is a situation in which neither side in a conflict can make significant progress, gain an advantage, or achieve a decisive victory over the other. This leads to a deadlock or standstill, where both parties are unable to alter the outcome meaningfully despite ongoing efforts. In military and geopolitical contexts, stalemates typically result in prolonged confrontations, entrenched positions, and unresolved disputes, as seen in examples like the Korean War or modern conflicts where front lines barely move and no side can prevail.
>I’m not bothered by the fact that Sy is not paying attention to what is happening on the ground in Ukraine; but how can the Trump folks, who supposedly have access to the best intelligence, can spew such nonsense. Russia is making steady progress all along the line of conflict in Ukraine.
>Russian sources, including the Ministry of Defense (MoD) briefings, TASS, and state-aligned reports, portray the ongoing special military operation as a steady, attritional advance by Russian forces, particularly in Donetsk Oblast, with significant Ukrainian losses and infrastructure degradation. The MoD’s weekly summary for September 27–October 3, 2025, reported up to 10,660 Ukrainian personnel casualties, destruction of 96 artillery pieces, 29 field ammunition depots, and strikes on 1,452 military facilities, including energy infrastructure to disrupt logistics ahead of winter. Overall, Russia is using encirclement tactics, drone integration, and small-unit infiltrations to exploit Ukrainian manpower shortages, while dismissing Western aid as ineffective. High-volume missile and drone strikes (e.g., 381 drones and 35 missiles on October 2–3) targeted energy grids, causing blackouts in Donetsk cities like Druzhkivka, Kostyantynivka, and Kramatorsk.
>Russian sources, as well as Ukrainian channels, describe Pokrovsk as the focal point of operations in southwestern Donetsk, with Russian forces actively enveloping the city from multiple axes to isolate Ukrainian defenses. The MoD reports daily assaults near Pokrovsk itself, north (Rodynske), northeast (Krasnyi Lyman, Novoekonomichne, Sukhetske), east (Myrnohrad, Myrolyubivka, Promin), southeast (Novopavlivka, Lysivka), and southwest (Kotlyne, Udachne, Molodetske, Zvirove), using small infantry groups and FPV drones for infiltration amid foliage cover. TASS, citing Donetsk People’s Republic head Denis Pushilin, states Russian forces maintain control despite Ukrainian counterattacks in Pokrovsk and nearby Dzerzhinsk (Toretsk), with Ukrainian intelligence admitting the front is “most critical” due to concentrated Russian efforts.
>A successful push here will open paths to Dnepropetrovsk Oblast and northward to Kramatorsk-Slavyansk, per Russian assessments. MoD claims Ukrainian losses in the sector exceed 1,485 troops in late September alone, with infantry casualties up 30% in September compared to August, attributed to drone strikes and poor weather hindering Ukrainian reinforcements. Russian units like the 3rd Spetsnaz Brigade (GRU) and 80th Sparta Reconnaissance Battalion are highlighted for drone operations near Hryshyne and Myrnohrad.
>The situation is equally dire in Kramatorsk. Although Russian sources indicate a temporary slowdown in ground offensives southwest of Siversk toward Kramatorsk due to poor weather, the Russians are accumulating forces for future assaults, while sustaining high artillery fire that is disrupting Ukrainian movements. The MoD reports no major clashes in the Kramatorsk direction on October 3–4 but ongoing strikes, including a ballistic missile hit on a thermal power plant causing a major fire and blackouts.
>Elements of the 98th Airborne Division are reportedly redeployed from the Kramatorsk area (near Chasiv Yar) to Kherson, suggesting a strategic shift, though Russian narratives frame this as rotational to bolster other fronts. TASS links potential advances to successes in Pokrovsk, warning of northward momentum toward the Kramatorsk-Slavyansk agglomeration. MoD claims include destruction of Ukrainian artillery positions in the sector, with overall Donetsk losses for Ukraine at hundreds daily. Russian milbloggers and MoD emphasize drone surveillance and rail strikes near Kramatorsk to interdict supplies, portraying the city as increasingly isolated (less than 20 km from positions in some areas).
>Ukrainian sources, by contrast, report no such advances… While there are reports that Ukrainian units make small advances in some areas, they are unable to consolidate these gains and reinforce their positions… The Russians, who enjoy a decisive advantage in manpower and firepower, are content to press forward with Ukraine doing the overwhelming majority of the bleeding.
>The most disturbing and delusional part of Sy’s article is this assessment from one of the Trump team:
<The official continued: “It’s not about conquering Europe. He’s not Catherine the Great” (who overthrew her husband and became empress of Russia for more than three decades in the late eighteenth century). “He’s got to know he has limited resources.”
<“At one time,” the official said, in the American-led negotiations to end the war with Ukraine, “There was an agreement that you”— Putin—“would get the land” that Russia had won in the war—at least three provinces—and “Ukraine would get peace. And now,” he added, referring to more recent talks, “we told Putin he can’t get any of it. The president said land is not on the table any more. Putin overstepped and he walked away. The war will go on until he is killed or there is a revolt” in Russia. “In other words,” the official said, “it’s an open door” full of imponderables.
>The official’s view today “is to let Putin stew in his own choices. He will never get Ukraine, and his summer offense failed miserably.” The American policy now is to put as much economic pressure as possible to help bring down the Russian economy. Putin is now busily selling Russia’s “sour” crude oil—known as such due to its sulphur content—with India as one of his main buyers. Thirty percent of Russia’s current economy, the official told me, now comes from the sale of Russian gas and crude oil. Putin, he said, “has no choice but to continue fighting a war that is destroying his economy.
>This is delusional bullshit. The Russian oil and gas sector contributes about 15-20% to the country’s GDP on average, according to comprehensive assessments that include extraction, refining, transportation, sales, and supporting activities. This share has fluctuated due to global prices, sanctions, and wartime disruptions; for instance, Rosstat data shows it at 15.2% in 2020, with earlier peaks around 21% in 2018. While oil and gas exports (including minerals) account for 45-50% of total exports and up to 30-50% of federal budget revenues, their direct GDP impact is lower because GDP encompasses the full economy, including domestic consumption and non-energy sectors.
>Russia has one other great advantage over the United States with respect to its economy… Its debt-to-GDP ration is 19%. The US, by dramatic contrast, sits at 126% and growing. It is the United States, not Russia, that has an economy unable to produce the weapons and ammunition to sustain the level of combat we are witnessing in Ukraine. Russia is not struggling to produce air defense missiles, hypersonic missiles, tanks, armored vehicles, artillery and artillery shells. Oh yeah, almost forgot… Russia is light years ahead of the US in producing drones that are regularly employed in a variety of combat missions.
>I wonder if the Trump team will ever wake up to reality? Russia, for its part, will continue to grind westward while dismantling the combat capability of the NATO-backed Ukrainian army. This ain’t no stalemate. >>2509849>Trump Has Been BamboozledWhy can't any of these burger-adjacent fuckwits ever give Don the Con enough agency for being the con man that he is? It's not bad advisors. It's not bad intel. This is who and what he is.
>>2509912people believed the tsar was the good guy who loved his peasants and the common folk it was just bad advisors bamboozling him
>>2509849>Thirty percent of Russia’s current economy, the official told me, now comes from the sale of Russian gas and crude oil. Putin, he said, “has no choice but to continue fighting a war that is destroying his economy.That's how you know a retard wrote this - they are literally mistaking exports for everything there is in an economy
>>2509925Colombian mercs remained alive - this wasn't in the deal!
>>2509917They blamed bigdick Raspitin for the degeneracy and manipulating wholesome innocent Tsar Nikky
>>2509849>debt-to-GDPAnother retard who doesn't know why countries with high interest rates and shit warmongering treacherous governments like fascist Russia don't get lent to in the first place.
All of that debt is domestic. No-one would touch a Russian bond with their own money if they could help it. Not even the Chinese want in on it and they're vassalising Russia as we speak
>>2510016Why would an RF more dependent on China be a bad thing? If anything it will prevent the former from cucking out too much for NATO relief.
You NAFOids seem to think that, if you can paint the opposition to US hegemony as an unified front, led by communists, then people will finally see the truth in your cold war propaganda and you will win. It's china controlling the means of production what is making you lose, not propaganda.
Your best hope in "winning at propaganda" is your governments obtaining consent to send your sons and daughters to die in pointless wars, you know that, right? And you will still lose, because your economies are predicated on never having to do that and hegemony.
>>2509971That part's quoting Hersh also. The retard is in the Trump admin.
>>2510014Live UA map and deepstate are showing most of pokrovsk unclaimed (naturally), but live ua is showing the T-05 north of town severed by Russian control, which just leaves the M-30 west of town as a supply artery. Deepstate is showing the salient north of pokrovsk cut up into several chunks, but liveua has it fully in russian hands so I think it's just wishful thinking.
>>2509912But also it's bad intel and bad advisors. The retard went into negotiations assuming the pile of shit served to him by Ukronazis was true.
>>2509660You know why people don't do additive manufacturing by default? Because it's expensive, only components like titanium parts where the cost of the raw material is immense is additive manufacturing cost effective.
For at least the next 10 years, you're asking mid-tier and smaller countries to go bankrupt fighting industrial China and Russia.
I like how mask off leftoids have become about this inter imperialist war. Just straight up excluding slaughtering hundreds of thousands of people and displacing millions of people. Id like you faggots to get off this safe space and spew your rhetoric in the normal parts of the internet so more people can see how bloodthirsty and psychotic you are. It would be great pro-Ukrainian propaganda. Just like how the best pro-Israeli propaganda is simply watching videos of what Hamas actually does, and translations of their Arabic speeches
>>2510114It's just Tankies. Most materialists wouldn't support one authoritarian imperialist country just because they hate another imperialist in the west so much
>>2510114I’ve seen the normal internet, it’s way more edgy in terms of celebrating violence and the death of thousands. I’d challenge you to present NAFO gore posting, videos of conscripts getting kidnapped off the street and just a compilation of every Ukrainian Nazi salute snapped to people *not on the internet* and convince them that’s what being “the good guys” looks like.
>>2510127You have no idea how radicalizing the pro-Ukrainian propaganda campaign has been. I've gone from donating to Ukrainian refugees to cheering total Hohol death.
>>2510114>>2510115>leftoidsYou could also have really stopped trying to Kirk us by misusing our own lingo against us, you don’t have an audience here who also doesn’t know what those words mean
>>2510114I'd like to remind whoever is doing this negative polarization stuff to be more subtle. Those kinds of NAFOids rarely show up. And even when you are doing propaganda, it shouldn't be just nationalist judge-me-by-my-enemies stuff. It should encourage the reader to become invested in your side of the conflict.
If you present *just* as the detestable other, your support hinges on keeping that going. The audience won't post the strawmen in your stead. And when you stop, all you have is combative retards who know nothing and fill the thread crossposting to find themselves an adversary.
>>2510114Crying about anti imperialists won't save western support for Ukraine and Israel
It also won't prove us wrong. Post 9/11 wars expanded a militarized global plutocracy that brought rot to the west, post 08 decline fueled a stagnant bourgeois division of nationalism and globalism with both undermining belief in liberalism until it ground to a halt as a historical force. The escalation of the wars to deal with the turmoil forced former cold war antagonists together. They now appropriate and reorient capitalist globalization so it can be saved from what birthed it. That doesn't exactly speak to imperialism, but its crisis forcing everyone together after it moved on from a few 'rogue nations'. Now you get nationalism for globalism, a familiar synthesis that dwarfs what Leninists observed in the 20th century with Turkey, Persia, China/India, etc.
>>2510143 (me)
That works well enough on bigger platforms, but this IB is already a rather isolated echo chamber. So no adversaries will show up naturally save from the occasional vandal, who isn't much invested in anything and just wants to shit up the threads. If I wanted to read the average glowtard on reddit, I'd go to their reddit board.
>>2510146I refute that any thread or board can be an echo chamber when the subject is something that has a state-mandated narrative that is being actively promoted via mainstream media and quite possibly glowies, because it’s impossible to not therefore hear the other-side as their narrative develops, ebbs and flows and often has to contradict itself, it’s that which causes people to spread the word, even if only for their own sense of self-confidence.
Echo-chambers are for stuff like flat earth theories, stuff that isn’t actively discussed, it’s people arguing against their geography teacher from 30 years ago and the occasional pop science YouTuber who indulges them in re-explaining what said geography teacher taught them that they’ve already discarded as damn lies.
Like a big part of shitposting in this thread takes the form of something like
>The sabotage attacks are going to DESTROY the Russian economy, it’s so over! x9001
<Express doubt such attacks will be so effective x9001
<*economy still hasn’t collapsed contrary to narrative*
>…..So you were all wrong in claiming these attacks were GOOD for the Russian economy? We can all admit that now right? I win!
>>2510149not sure if we're an echo chamber or our marxism permits an alternative view suppressed by a blindly pro-west digital info bubble
>>2510180I think for other conflict and events of interest, you can find discussions and viewpoints that don’t pertain to the ones the state espouses, unfortunately I think the echo chamber ultimately is Russophobia.
I think the anti-campist hysteria is purely down to us not prefacing criticisms of Ukraine and NATO with a statement confirming that we accept the consensus that Russia is responsible for NATO’s existence and the support Banderites received in Ukraine for being like, all Russian-y, and stuff.
Ironically the accusation therefore comes that we’re pro-Russian campists for not paying due reverence to the extremely anti-Russian atmosphere that has been developed over centuries in the west and instead treating that as an irrelevancy in our analysis of the conflict.
Not really caring about the narrative of Russia being le notably evil, totalitarian, invasive, colonialist, etc as espoused by the imperialist conglomerate and not building our analysis from an acceptance of said narrative as a base, is treated like we’re trying to convince them black is white, that by discarding that western narrative from the start, what we really want is to dispute it and that’s our motivation in saying
>Nazi salutes are bad, actually. Even for MAGA sympathisers of Russia, they’re never disputing the narrative that Russia at its most idle is every bit as evil as the US is at its most uncharacteristic excesses, simply that they think that’s based and necessary to not become a socialist woke utopia like the US is at idle.
>>2510202lol yes, ironically the idea of who a campist is gets warped by an anti-russian english discourse, which is where ultraleftism exclusively exists. global views feel like bias if you're used to the west being the world.
Russia continues their genocidal campaign. Launching over 500 drones and dozens of kinzhals, killing 5 and injuring 10.
Someone do some liberal math and calculate how long it'd take Russia to kill the ~30 million Ukrainians in Ukraine.
>>2510224500drones to kill 5?!?
Fuck putin
>>2510202Nobodies saying their Ukraine doesn't have abit of a Hitler problem. How about we wait until those naziboos make as much of a mess or start a war where hundreds of thousands die for geopolitical ends before being such a purist about it, mmkay?
Condemning Russia and pro-russian propaganda is not mutually exclusive with critiquing right-wing chains and past pogroms in ukraine while acknowledging the country on the whole has the right to defend themselves, in a way not devalued by a few bad actors.
>>2510224Ah you didn’t like my post then?
But it’s a good segue into pointing out that the anti-campist hysteria determines how shitposting is formed ITT, with the bizarre spin on concern trolling where the assumption is that we *DID* accept the narrative on Russia and that’s our motivation for campion but secretly hiding our disappointment that Russia hasn’t lived up to it and thus we will be “mindbroken” by
>Wew I used to be so pro-Russian until I realised what a cuck Putin is with all of his adherence to rules and diplomacy, come on already we want nooks on lvov! We want shameless retaliations against Ukrainian civilians! We want merciless big arrow assaults! We want a declaration of war against Turkey for playing both sides! Right fellow campists!? >>2510229But there you go, I’m certain the “naziboo” problem would not be discounted as harmless little hand movements and unserious rants by some edgy politicians under any other circumstance that didn’t involve that all being directed at Russia.
That ultimately Russia uniquely is actually deserving of fascist rhetoric and military aid provided to back that rhetoric, because when they retaliated to the military aid with invasion, that retroactively proved the fascist rhetoric correct.
Russia is fascist thoughever.
Not for anything they've done in Ukraine or over the course of this war.
Just simply for the fact that they rig elections to deny the communists a majority and they host meetings with european neo nazis and glorify conservatives and right wingers.
>>2510262Fascist countries don't have multinational structures that halt repudiation of communist history in european wars, compromise with oligarchs, or an entirely pragmatic realpolitik foreign policy that works with anyone including the West
They tend to mass mobilize their own society into one mythical will and seek war to rebirth themselves
I find these views just echo how neocons can't make sense of Russia, China, or baathist states.
They're all Hitler-Stalins.
>>2510269yeah the lib retards cant help but view the world as "goodie(us) vs baddie, and throughout history goodie and baddie countries and their conflicts are fundamentally the same"
the constant reference to ww2 and fascism without any decent analysis of how its actually completely different show how they are simply lost morons without any grip to reality or understanding of the actual dynamics at play, they just want talking points to repeat
>>2510014>Pokrovsk almost completely captured.That's too much progress too soon. The Krems will have to order another retreat.
>>2510274Absolutely, it’s all “have YOU punched a Nazi today?” and “you’re all Joseph Gobbles!” over the minutiae between the two wings of the united bourgeois party until suddenly both CNN and Fox News are asking you to throw your support behind people unironically throwing out Nazi salutes and talking about “Orc extermination”. Then identifying Nazism becomes an absolute minefield because perhaps larping as cannibals eating a Russian soldier as part of a themed barbecue is beyond the pale and to be condemned by conventional logic, but then what if someone jumps in to chastise you online as ignorant and victim blaming for not knowing and respecting the ancient ritual of the galicians in pretending to eat their enemies that predates Nazi occultism, and you get thousands of downvotes destroying your good reputation and banned from your favourite subreddit for spreading Russian propaganda?
Oh just let the people throwing up the Nazi salutes tell us what is and isn’t fascism, I can’t be humiliated if I just obey CNN and Fox News and allow myself to be led by the Ukrainian Government on this.
>>2510285Please kindly point out a single post in this entire thread where
A) Someone defended CNN
B) Someone defended Fox News
C) Someone defended American Imperialism
>>2510293>This is a situation that only exists within this threadYou're demanding the context to be arbitrarily limited to only posts within this thread (and presumably specifically thread #262), but you're apparently not interested in
>>2510254 when it meets your criteria, why?
Russian military blogger (Romanov) tells us about the shelf life of a zigger stormtrooper.
> Average life cycle of a stormtrooper: 12 days.> - Day one: he signs a contract and arrives at the training ground;> - Days two to eleven: training at the training ground;> - Day twelve (last): deployment to the position.
> In hot spots, out of two fighters, only one reaches the position. In the best case scenario.
>Because of enemy drones. Because almost no one is systematically engaged in intercepting the initiative in the sky.
>There are no resources, skills, or desire.
>When there are no Mavics or FPVs, they are replaced by assault troops.
>I often talk to those who have signed a contract and are pouring into positions.I> ask the question: do you understand that tomorrow you're f***ed? What's your motivation?
>The most common answer is: “My family will get the payout.”https://t.me/romanov_92/49495>>2510307what's even the point of deploying stormtroopers in that case?
>post says 'zigger' unironically
discarded
>>2510314Tbh for me it’s the stormtrooper part. I dunno if that’s the cringe of
>It’s like Star Wars, the Russian soldiers are like stormtroopers!Or the cringe of just trying to use any kind of fascistic naming of Russian stuff as whataboutism in a solely verbal way, I.e
>Stormtroopers>Putler>RuZZia (the Zs are like SS runes, get it?)>’Z’ is Russia’s stand in for the Swastika they wish they could use >>2510312it's just a fancy term for cannon fodder, why waste a highly trained soldier on a task like exposing Ukrainian firing positions
>>2510293>Someone defended American Imperialismthe people defending the ukronazis are objectively defending american imperialism
>>2510293How I learned to stop worrying and love ChampyOnce you realize it's not deliberate/malicious - and it's not, which took me a long time to realize - you can ignore it and achieve harmony with Champy…
>>2510317Weren’t stormtrooper (the real ones) actually supposed to be highly trained? I think you’re confusing two nafo angles here of Russia being “le reel Nazis” and Russia conducting “le Stalinist Zerg rush human wave tactics”
>>2510323stormtroopers would rush into an area, these ones have likely already been conscripted before, so they are assumed to have good training
>>2510321He truly is Bilbo beggings
>>2510319bothsidism is inherently defending imperialism. There is no other imperialism in the world today than American. Framing it as just one of multiple competing types, and that these should be equated and treated the same, is already to whitewash and defend it.
>>2510321I hope it's real and not AI. I'm seeing it on a lot of feeds.
>>2510322>it's not deliberateWhat do you mean? Replying to a post about lib takes on this conflict and mentions Reddit specifically with
>Erm but where was that said specifically in this thread, please tie your hands behind your back and pretend history started when thread #262 did and that there isn't a world outside it, please consult this picture I drew of how I already accept my own arbitrary limitations and that embarrasses you to understand whyis a non-argument.
>>2510330>There is no other imperialism in the world today than Americanimagine believing this
>>2510334>imperialism is when tanks cross international border>imperialism is when big country small countryno, it's not
>>2510336america is just one of many imperialist nations
Neither Ukraine nor Russia is an imperialistic force in this war, but they are both classist forces in that they keep it a battle between proles while refusing to touch the other side's elites. That's obviously a common occurrence in wars.
>>2510323i'm not conflating anything, it's well documented that units like the so-called "Storm Z" battalions were marketed as stormtroopers but in reality are just used as bait to expose Ukrainian firing positions as i previously stated, which then can be mopped up with actual "stormtroopers" and regular units, there are phases to the assault. you may not like how brutal it is but it works very well considering the alternative is to just not advance at all.
>>2509362>>2509546>Muh unions* Laughs in Lenin *
>>2510340Nope
America is the only imperialist nation
>>2510348This just sounds like the mockery of bike assaults as desperate and wasteful but necessary due to how based Ukrainian defences are, that then eventually get adopted by the Ukrainians as just clever out of the box thinking when they do it
In fact, “Storm Z” as described just sounds a lot like the “proooobing” attacks Ukrainians did/do
>>2510340it's not,. that's what the unipolar order means.
>British imperialimextension/subordinate of American
>French imperialimextension/subordinate of American
>Turkish imperialimextension/subordinate of American/NATO
>Israeli imperialismAmerican proxy
>Ukrainian imperialim>American proxy>Russian imperialismdoesn't exist
>Chinese imperialismdoesn't exist
etc. etc.
Since 1991 there has been only one imperialism (Unipolar). All other nations are its subordinates or targets tyrng to defend their sovereignty
>>2510359>>2510362i don't get your frustration here, i didn't say anything about the media war and narratives so you can shove your faux indignation up your ass. what is your argument here even, if Ukraine was constantly on the offensive they'd use a ton of cannon fodder bait too. it's just how the war is now.
It'd be really nice if anons who call this war interimperialist elaborated on that.
From the perspective of the past future wars are going to be clown shows, arent they?
Also “well documented” this is the first I’m hearing of it and the first result I got when searching was The Independent with the headline
>Putin’s ‘punishment battalions’ full of convicts and drunk recruits: ‘They’re just meat’
<Russia is recruiting prisoners into ‘Storm-Z’ squads to bolster their forces in Ukraine. They are often used as cannon fodder
The undoing of nafo propaganda is its unwillingness to ever give Russia a fair shake, everything they do has to be evil, desperate, exploitative, cowardly and above all conducted with an understanding that they’ve already lost.
>>2510376All wars are clown shows.
>>2510077>>2510293If you are not against Ukraine, you are pro imperialism.
End of discussion
>>2510366>>2510358Nope, these are willing collaborators will their own ambitions and agency. You are doing nothing but running cover for the thousands of imperialist pigs across the globe you claim to be innocent and 'just following orders'. you'll join them against the wall when the time comes inshallah
>>2510376No, it was revealed to me in a dream that dialectical materialists, if they ever have to fight wars, won't have Christcucktin's cheek-turning behavior.
>>2510367Well there’s no need for hostility, I’m only doubting a claim made without sources, just an assertion it’s “well documented” and what kind of jackass just accepts that at face value?
>>2510388If you arent pro russia you are pro imperialism.
>>2510394It is not enough to be pro-Russia
You have to be anti-Ukraine
>>2510389>willing collaborators will their own ambitions and agencysure but that doessn't make them a separate imperialism from the source of their power. They are "collaborators" with it.
>>2510395It's not enough to be anti-Ukraine.
You have to be pro-Posadist.
I was wrong guys. This isnt an interimperialist war. I was just mindlessly repeating ICP talking points. They are probably glowies too.
>>2510398some collaborate willingly because they are vassals like the UK, some collaborate unwillingly because they enjoy the military framework of NATO. France has their own independent nuclear project that also took the lead in destroying Libya in 2011. Of course with American help, but France has the initiative the whole time. there's not a lot of true imperialist states out there but to say america is the only one implies they still have global hegemony which is long gone
>The war is between imperial fronts, between alliances of States.
>Ukrainian nationalism is a mask for Western imperialism, just as the defense of Russian minorities in Ukraine serves to justify the Russian one.
> It is a war by proxy: the capitalists of Russia intend to recover markets for their products and the capitalists of the West are arming the Ukrainian army and the "resistance" to fight for their expansion to the East.
>The war is for the preservation of capitalism globally. It’s against communism, which is always an invisible but ever-present spectre. A current which is maturing and presses from inside of capitalism in its monstrous phase. Because communism, denied by all, is already ready to be born, once the dictatorship of capital is overthrown
>Bourgeois pacifism, faced with the reality of war, obediently hides the flag of peace to take up the blue and yellow of the bourgeois Ukrainian State. The word Peace to morphing into praise for a War "for Freedom".
>>2510418to the extent that US hegemony is 'gone' it's only because of an inability to contain or control China, Russia and their allies, not because of the UK or France. If the latter were pursuing any imperial projects that were contrary to American interests they would get a talking to and quickly put back in place.
>The pro-Russia militias in the Donbass, refusing to accept orders from the new regime in Kiev, have organized a referendum, using the “popular will” to sanction their request for the region, baptized New Russia, to be united with Moscow, following in the footsteps of the Crimea. Their intention is thereby to head off the outcome of the national elections on May 25, which is bound to sanction the victory pf the pro-western governing parties in Kiev.
The proletariat, which is particularly numerous in that region because of the mines and metallurgical factories situated there, is seemingly assenting to its “passage” to Russia, not out of patriotism but because, or so it believes, it would obtain, if not higher wages, at least greater social security and higher pensions and so on.
>In the ruthless war between the bourgeois states the outward justifications are of no interest; that is, whether or not the Kremlin’s coup de main, which in a few days succeeded in militarily occupying the Crimea and securing its old naval base in Sebastopol, was in compliance with “international law”; and we are equally uninterested in knowing whether or not Moscow has reacted to the attempt by the United States to move NATO’s missiles even further to the east, or if NATO has been forced to respond to the maneuverings of Russia, preparing to occupy a part or all of the Ukraine.
>we are equally uninterested in knowing whether or not Moscow has reacted to the attempt by the United States to move NATO’s missiles even further to the east
ICP doesnt care about NATO expansion confirmed. ICP is NATO apologists.
>>2510432>quickly put back in place.which French nukes? please. america couldn't even handle the DPRK at the empires height. No, imperialist France will be left to control and vassalize Europe when the US fulfills it's promise to withdraw troops from the continent
>>2510442More like imperialist Germany will vassalize Europe (they already have). France is too internally divided and politically chaotic to act as the EU's hegemon. Germans on the other hand have displayed impressive political unity and iron will in making life for the rest of the EU as miserable as possible (see: Greece).
>>2510442>>2510445Based Germany and France challenging unipolarity?
>>2510440heh, don't let facts get in the way of The Narrative
Russia literally has an automated system that guarantees MAD. A dead man's switch. Russia has nuclear subs and other mobile nuclear laucher vehicles that constantly move around inside the country in secrecy. Moving nukes closer to its border is useless.
>>2510445After the Iranians hacked an israeli nuclear facility over the summer it was revealed that israeli nuclear scientists are/were helping an unnamed european nation realize a covert nuclear weapons program. Seems obvious that this nation was Germany but I don't see how they'll secure the material without any nuclear reactors
>>2510464Merkel mating press. Plap those plump pale germanic asscheeks. Plap plap plap
>>2510456moscow's apathetic reactions to american weapons strikes on its soil since 2022 and the constant nut-licking of trump speak volumes about its nato concerns
Somebody photoshop merkels head to sara jays body
>>2510468It reserves the right to use, it is not written in their doctrine that they have to immideately nuke. This is why they invented that automated system ( dead man's switch) i bet. Its called perimeter
>>2510472apathetic in non-nuclear responses too.
all along it's looked more to me like a business quarrel than an existential war.
>>2510466If only putin recruted merkel as a spy by mating pressing her, alas.
>>2510476Le interimperialist conflict
>>2510468American weapons never passed 1991 russian border.
>>2510456>Because of MAD, Moving nukes closer to Russia's border is useless.<NATO is expanding for no reasonThat's not really good enough to change the conversation away from why NATO is expanding in the first place, to why Russia takes issue with it. Because the "dead man's switch" and
>>2510468 asserts that Russia's ultimate deterrent to nuclear annihilation on America's terms is… nuclear annihilation on their own terms.
There's no reason to be this disinterested in why NATO is expanding and why Russia are against it, while venturing an opinion on the conflict that contradiction sparked.
>>2510456This is actually a good point. Even if NATO and America do a first strike against Russia, Russia has an automated system to retaliate. Hmm, it's almost like the NATO security concern rationale isn't real and was just a convenient excuse…….
>>2510487Nato is expanding to sell weapons and military stuff because all nato members have one standard. Is this good enough answer?
>>2510496 (me)
And russia takes issue with it because muh spheres of influence and muh markets. Is that also a good enough answer?
The reason it's still an SMO and not a war is, quite frankly, that the Kremlin itself doesn't see it as a war and therefore doesn't want to be legally bound to fight it as one.
>>2510505It is not a war therefore it is not an interimperialist war. Take that ultroids
>>2510509Correct. It's not an interimperialist war or an existential war.
>>2510464 (me)
The article
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15164671/Ex-German-Chancellor-71-blames-Poland-Baltic-states-Putins-war-Ukraine.htmland the interview:
https://youtu.be/wjSHkSPUxRc?t=580(I brought the moment the interviewer asks the question, to put some more context)
Context: Interviewed asks the efforts Germany and France did to de-escalate the situation and the Baltics plus Poland decided to put breaks on their efforts to de-escalate the problems with Russia.
Possible scenario:
-Planted question. Merkel is still a relevant and an influential figure in German politics, exerting some soft influence in the CDU, Merz's political party, through private meetings, and interviews like this that incentivize debates.
If so, why then? are they playing the blame game now? why? German economy has suffered widely and the continuous silence of the "ukraine sabotage" to Nord Stream I and II, tells me this could be a series of political scandals aimed to force a shift towards something else.
what's that else? dunno, but ain't peace, I am sure of that.
Nato is not only an organisation, it is also a brand in a way with all the attached prestige. Russian weapons are also kind of a brand. And russia too has a military prestige that makes its weapons sexy commodities just like nato's.
>>2510496No, because plenty of US weapons get sold to nations not in NATO.
>>2510500No. Because you haven’t explained to what end the “sphere of influence” would be, because the primary goal would presumably be not having their neighbours become staging grounds for US nuclear strike capabilities.
People constantly argue who's weapons are better, russia's or nato's. Imo both have distinct sexyness. Russian weapons are just as sexy.
>>2510519Primary goal would be muh energy markets.
Imagine thinking that Cucktin of all people is an imperialist lmao.
Ukraine is single handedly fighting off the Chino-Russo-Iranic imperialist bloc. Their heroism is unbelievable. It's like when Israel fought off 7 genocidal Arab Armies in the 60s. Small western force fighting off hordes of barbarians has been kind of the Western thing since Xerxes.
>>2510519Becoming nato member makes it so that a country buys more of its weapons. Non nato countries buying western weapons is for some units of special forces.
>>2510493In 2022, I believed the NATO rationale, but as the war progressed and I saw Moscow's behavior, it became apparent to me that something else was going on. What that something else is, I dunno.
This whole war has been a humiliation exercise for the Sino-Russian imperialists. They're being cockblocked by what was unambigously the shittiest, poorest, most corrupt and incompetent Western country before this war.
>>2510521This conflict hasn’t stopped NATO states from buying Russian oil and gas, for decades Russian oil and gas was being bought by NATO states without issue, so still not good enough I’m afraid.
>>2510527>le special forcesAustralia has near exclusively American armaments while not being in NATO. Again, not good enough I’m afraid.
>>2510525Be it heroism or cold callous herding of men to the meatgrinder for nato, Ukrainian resistance has been impressive.
>>2510536I think its good enough. Nothing you said contradicts that nato is expanding to sell weapons and shit and to sell it is scaremongering about rusha and in a way also is justifying its own existence.
>start war supposedly to stop Ukraine joining NATO
>NATO joins Ukraine instead
>NATO hits Russian soil with weapons that require NATO ISR and approval
>suck Trump's cock trying to get Arctic, space, and energy deals
>le existential war, le urgency of the moment, le crisis
>>2510487Nato is expanding because it is imperialist. Russia takes issue with it because it is capitalist. Is this explanation good enough?
>>2510493Wtf is "security"?
Geopolitics brained people itt. Geopolitics is bourgeoisie politics.
>>2510543>I think its good enoughYeah that was kind of my point that you're rather disinterested in what the contradiction actually is between NATO and Russia beyond generalities like "markets" and "sphere of influence"
>>2510555>Is this explanation good enough?Are you proud of being a retard or something?
>>2510567Whats a contradiction? One sentence answer is enough for me.
>>2510567Can you answer to your own question without justyfying a bourgeoisie state?
>>2510497Strom shadows and atacms only hit former ukrainian territories
>lel
🇬🇧⚡️🇷🇺 Russian Intelligence Accuses Britain of Planning Provocation Against Moscow
Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) has accused the United Kingdom of preparing a false-flag operation aimed at discrediting Russia and escalating tensions in Europe.
According to an SVR statement cited by TASS, London is training a group of Russian nationals fighting for the Ukrainian Armed Forces to carry out an attack on either a Ukrainian Navy vessel or a civilian ship belonging to a foreign nation in a European port. The staged attack would then be blamed on “Russian agents.”
The SVR reports that these militants have already arrived in Britain to undergo sabotage training. They are to be equipped with Chinese-made underwater gear — which, after the provocation, would be “discovered” and presented as fabricated proof of Beijing’s alleged support.
Moscow says the operation’s objective is to fuel anti-Russian hysteria in Europe and justify further militarization and Western arms deliveries to Kiev.
As the SVR notes, London is counting on Europe’s deeply entrenched Russophobia to make such a fabrication easily accepted as truth — serving as yet another excuse to rally the West against a supposed “Russian threat.”
>>2510569>justifying a bourgeoisie stateI don’t even… do you know what analysis is?
>>2510456>>2510493There's one problem with "Russia has the largest nuclear arsenal - therefore NATO expansion is no threat to Russia." That problem is when Russia has a leader who NATO believes will never use nukes in response to conventional strikes on Russian soil. Then it makes sense to grab Ukraine and position NATO conventional missiles right near the Russian border. If it wasn't a plan before 2022, it's surely a plan now given Putin's timidity.
>>2510575Can you please tell me what the contradiction is? I want to know. Do you know? If you do tell me. Dont do that bullshit where you tell me to figure it on my own.
>>2510572Bryansk, Kursk, Rostov?
>>2510582Damn, nato has no shame
>>2510584>on russian soilLike hitting some empty place with nothing in it?
>>2510576NATO still believes it defeated the Soviet Union without triggering MAD by putting any kind of pressure it could on the Soviet state, but mostly by attempting to force the USSR to consistently overspend on defence, whether that is the truth of the matter or not, that’s ultimately going to inform their tactics in trying to get Russia to collapse also without triggering MAD.
Even if that’s not the interpretation for the Russian state of the USSR’s collapse, that pressure would still be felt and naturally will be resisted and resistance naturally doesn’t involve responding to every provocation from the US in retaliating against NATO states directly or cutting the world off from its oil and gas, dropping the first nuke in anger since 1945, or falling out with China for not getting directly involved, etc
>state is le historical subject
>>2510582I thought russian civvies didnt feel the effects of war at all. I thought they didnt even notice its effects that much since russian army is made up of volunteers.
>>2510588Any hypothetical automated system or dead-man switch (which historical research and Medvedev's rants support) is irrelevant for hitting targets inside Russia, as long as conventional missiles are used and as long as the leadership isn't targeted. NATO is gradually building its confidence that Putin is unwilling to respond on NATO homelands
even conventionally. So I'm in this bizarre situation where I believe that Russia has valid NATO security concerns… because Putin.
>>2510575Still waiting for your correct line regarding this war.
>>2510600Unironic le great cuck theory?
>>2510600>hypothericalIt is real and they have been upgrading and updating it
>>2510513quite surely, a redivision of the world. Russia gets (Eastern) Ukraine and Belarussia, EU centralizes and gets Balts and Poles. If anything, Merkel knows war with the PRC is coming, so better EU and America make peace with Russia and redivide a part of the world now and hope to sway the Russian rump-bourgeoisie towards Western Imperialism against China, or risk not having breathing time before the War to End All Wars.
>>2510612I meant hypothetical because I can't know for sure that it's real, but I also mentioned that historical research and Medvedev's threats support that it's real. I guess common sense too may also support that it's real.
>>2510608I've unironically been a hardcore believer in great-man theory ever since Luka said that MoD wanted to drop Oreshniks on Bankova and Putin refused. In that case, it was literally one man's decision.
>>2510622Putin decided that on a whim huh? There were no factors that influenced his decision huh?
>>2510616 (me)
Any kind of peace will the European imperialists and bourgeoisie too much breathing time, which they will use to place troops in the Baltics and Polands and blitzkrieg Russia otherwise. Putin is not Stalin and the RF is not the USSR and I doubt the Russian bourgeoisie is capable of an immense movement of industry or preparing for a world war. Peace in Europe means victory for imperialists for the next 1000 years.
Champsoc better post the correct line regarding this war.
>>2510625Indeed. He needed only to articulate the word 'yes' in Russian. His judgment should be ignored because Christcucks don't have reliable judgment and because he admits being "led by the nose" and "fooled" by the West multiple times. The
Great Man has better judgment.
>>2510425>the capitalists of Russia intend to recover markets for their products lmao imagine believing this, the russian porkies were mad at putin for the war, because it was fundamentally not a war for economic reasons for russia (but getting ukraine was both for economic and geopolitics reason for nato)
>>2510632Is that what great man theory is? For example, commies dont deny that there are exceptional individuals that act as operating agents while not being the motive force of history.
>>2510634Post your correct line regarding this war. What reasons?
>>2510450both are megacuck for the US, so no
the leverage US have on france is not military, its economic (and all the ruling classes being their bitches since their young leaders days too)
>>2510636GMT is used very loosely as an insult on this board toward people who believe that some leaders can make better decisions than other leaders, that some leaders can be weaker and more feckless than other leaders, etc.
>>2510636No, denying 'great men' exist is not Marxism. What the Marxist critique of the great man theory is that 'great men' are
not exceptional individuals but precisely those individuals whose ideas led the masses and became a material force in its own right. Every idea is an individual idea, but some of these ideas resonate with the masses because the ideas of the mass are mass ideas. Once this mass idea is let to move freely, it also changes the one who first vocalized the idea, and thus also his ideas, which now may or may not no longer lead the masses, because they are (or aren't) mass ideas.
The only other explanation is this being a national liberation war of rusha against the west. But if so, why is there no mobilization? Why arent more russians more eagerly joining army to fight western opressors? Maybe because current volunteers are actually enough for war needs.
>>2510638security, safeguarding one of their most important port in crimea, preventing having nato on its most vulnerable frontier and a hostile nazi and vehemently anti russian government actively fucking with them with their cia trained sbu there, and protecting the pro russian separatists. Choosing their best time to start a confrontation with nato that seemed inevitable.
>>2510643Spend enough time in this thread wistfully wondering how Stalin or someone tougher would handle the "SMO," and eventually someone will object that you're engaging in the crime of Great Man Theory. It's been some months, but there was one poster in /ukr/ who was some kind of hardcore causal determinist and who believed that the decisions leaders make are the only possible decisions they can make, which is fine I guess, except that this poster also appeared to believe that the posters he disliked had some kind of blameworthy agency.
>>2510254>But there you go, I’m certain the “naziboo” problem would not be discounted as harmless little hand movements and unserious rants by some edgy politicians under any other circumstance that didn’t involve that all being directed at Russia. In the lead up to the war, in places like tumblr and reddit the line was "if a Nazi sits down at a table full of people then there's a table full of nazis." That went out the window the second the smo started and suddenly it was time for nuance.
>>2510644I mean, this isn't a total war at all. ruZZia has delinked from the West a good while ago. Why would ruZZia mobilize then? For the Ukrainian nazi lumpen-bourgeoisie, it is a war of survival. They have every reason to fight to the last Ukrainian.
>>2510662Right, natlib isnt only achieved through miltitary stuff i gueess. You are right.
>>2510662>delinkedYou mean escaped opressive exploitative relationship. Natlib
So how will the new gov in the Czech Republic pull a Meloni? I'm guessing it will go with some kind of loan/IOU scheme.
>They have every reason to fight to the last Ukrainian.
I love how, similar to neocon lindsay graham, this westerner speak for ukrainians, as if zelya truly represents that sentiment, and that sentiment is democratically chosen.
>>2510681Bastards, but they were so patriotic! Well back to Femen girls!
>>2510685Post your correct line regarding this war.
>>2510681So let me get this straight… if I watch Ukrainian OnlyFans models, that means they don't have to work for employers who hand over taxes to the Ukrainian state, which means I'm depriving the Ukrainian state of war money? Lads, you mean I can pound my meat for a cause?
>>2510687Porn is illegal in Ukraine so yeah
>>2510677potato potato, stop moralizing, lib
>>2510686Does the correct line have to be just one line as well?
>>2510684'They' as in the ukro bourgeoisie, they have every reason to freeze elections, install martial law and continue bussifying Ukrainians. Retard.
>>2510694You wont post your analysis huh?
>>2510695ok, that's different. but remember, ukraine is a proxy state. bourgeoisies of proxy states don't have say.
>Andrius Kubilius, the European Commissioner for Space and Defense, has announced that German Intelligence has obtained relevant evidence indicating that Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin are discussing a potential attack against NATO, with it currently unknown if these are only discussions or if preparation are being actively made for a direct conflict with NATO and the United States.
Another thing to file in the "if only Putin were this based" folder.
>>2510692>moralizingWhere do you see the moralizing, stupid?
>>2510697In one line
>You’ve been fazed, you’ve been irked and you’ve been..CHAMPSOC’D >>2510701'national liberation' is a spook, russia was not a colonial state after 1991 by any measure and clearly most of production in russia remained or restarted sufficiently so, that they can play pretend to be a different kind of civilization altogether from the europeans. It's a rift between capitalists, not an epic anticolonial struggle. You cannot have a nation liberated while still living under capitalism, no matter how much you hate the west.
>>2510533>SinoChina isn't involved in this war. If they were Kiev would have been taken in 3 days because China can produce a million drones per day and simply overwhelm every defending force. Not that they would ever do such a thing because Xi is happy staying at home building more trains.
>>2510711>Xi is happy staying at home building more trains.You make it sound like that's a bad thing.
>>2510533>sino? Xi does not give a fuck about this lmao
>>2510691Hahahaha porn is illegal in the land of thot factories?!
>>2510715https://www.kyivpost.com/post/55940
>President Volodymyr Zelensky had responded to a petition to decriminalize pornography in the country on Tuesday, adding that the parliament is working on it.
>Pornography in Ukraine – including sending nude photos between private individuals – is currently illegal in Ukraine and can lead to three to five years in prison. This is from july but last I heard yeah
>>2510722step 1
>decriminalize prostitution, including e-thots porn, soft-core porn.step 2
>tax prostitution????
MUGA>MAKE UKRAINE GREAT AGAIN. >The Kremlin says Russian President Vladimir Putin and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke by phone.
Hm, Bibi has a tendency to call Putin before and only before attacks on Iran.
It’s zover, ziztas, Denys Davydov told me Ruzzia’s hordes have been vanqvished
>Russia's mysterious "Doomsday Radio" has become active again
>UVB-76 transmitted the cryptic code НЖТИ 59400 ОРЕХОБРУС 2456 1459
>Some observers see similarities to February 2022 transmissions or to ‘Oreshnik’
>Only those sending and receiving the messages know what it means.
Is this anything? Isn't there some Russian radio thingy that always gets trolled with picture messages, or is that something else?
Will There Be a Deal by Thursday?
Also, winds of change at Al Jazeera, and a sober reflection on Israeli society two years after the October 7 massacre.
What’s going on at Al Jazeera? If you go onto its website, you’ll see relatively mild news items, as opposed to the incitement that is usually prominent on the Qatari propaganda network. First, I’ll give a small example, and then I’ll explain the background to these developments.
An Al Jazeera correspondent in Gaza recently came across locals who wanted to protest against the war. Ordinarily, when Palestinians try disrupt the pro-Hamas narrative on live air (you’d be surprised by how often this happens), Al Jazeera’s “journalists” are very quick to cut them off.
But this time, they stood silently by as the man shouted, amongst other things, “take Jerusalem—we don’t want it anymore.”
Ok, so what should we make of this? The other day, my Channel 12 colleague Ehud Yaari explained that “Qatar is carrying out a purge at Al Jazeera. The director is gone, the deputy is gone, and this comes together with a gradual softening of the network’s editorial line. For example, Al Jazeera now—instead of praising and boasting about the actions of Hamas’ military wing—is focusing more on the humanitarian situation in Gaza.”
Why? “This is apparently part of understandings between them and the United States, under which Al Jazeera will reduce the amount of incitement it spreads throughout the Middle East,” Yaari explained.
Wanting more information, I asked an intelligence official for their thoughts. Here’s what they told me.
“Yesterday I read several times that Hamas is very unhappy with the changes at Al Jazeera.” The two even had “an apology call,” according to the official, during which they “agreed upon” the fact that “Trump and Netanyahu forced the Qataris to change direction.”
But did the official buy this narrative? “I thought they were fantasizing,” they said, “but then I happened to see this, and I also went to Al Jazeera’s homepage, which really doesn’t look the same as it did a week ago (back then—dozens of articles about Gaza and against Israel. Now, you can see for yourself—a neutral main headline, another fairly neutral one about the flotilla, and that’s it).”
The bottom line? “If this is a real shift, it’s a huge game changer,” they said.
https://mailchi.mp/81085055db78/its-noon-in-israel-will-there-be-a-deal-by-thursday?e=a34d4dc9d8>>2510757Great cover and obviously gripping imagery from Eisenstein
>>2510644Every army in every war ever has felt like it doesn't have enough. Nothing is ever done as it should be. It's kind of in the nature of it and tactics are built around it, like where to concentrate your forces operating under conditions of limited resources.
>Trump says he has made a decision on sending Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine but he wants to make sure how Ukraine will use them
Translation: Ukraine will try to hit the Kremlin, which is what Trump wants, but he has to pretend it's Ukraine going rogue.
>>2510725cool it with the anti-ukrainian caricatures!
>>2510961>be Nazi in Russia>fight for Ukraine against Russia>get arrested>die under suspicious circumstancesWonder how Rusich stays alive.
>>2510777there are plenty of military radio sending cryptic stuff all the time. If you could predict military moves with it there would be no point in doing it
>Russian caricatures
<I sleep
>anti-ukrainian caricatures
<COOL IT
first time ever I see someone having a spat for that, huh.
>>2510961Dumbo Havryshenko fully supported Euromaidan, naively believing the whole ‘fighting corruption, integrating in the garden of EU’ etc and then pikachu-faced herself when she got a Banderite-fascist regime instead.
>>2511154"still has some questions" = will pretend he had no idea what Ukraine was going to do with them… and the Kremlinoids will pretend to be believe him (or be dumb enough to believe him outright lmao)
>inb4 the new wunderwaffen is a nooteen burger, same with french and british missiles, and before that, the atacms.
>inb4 it doesn't matter, only an unimportant part of the kremlin building was smoked… also interception rates were quite high
>>2511236What did javelins and ATTA-boy do exactly?
>>2511249I did not know the Kremlin was the Russian Army. Must be hard fighting so far from the front.
>>2511218she's so funny. easily uncovers her fake opposition position, taking one step against zelya, then taking three or four steps in favor of the same state that gave birth to the political creature zelya is.
>>2511250atacms killed some russian civilians, but people with weak minds like to make excuses
>>2511253you're very stupid
>>2511253or for that matter, that they ever got any meaningful impact with the storm shadows and scalps missiles to a front they aren't holding.
>>2511256Russia will not collapse for that. not now, not in 10 years. Specially after almost 8 years of ATO where the average person knows exactly what people in Donbas endured.
>>2511256So it was not this wunderwaffen which nafoids claimed would annihilate the ruzzian washing machines once for all?
>>2511258you’re so smart im in awe
>>2511262atacms were a red line
the red line was crossed, killing civilians
you don't see it as a problem because you just sit on your armchair with your weak mind - you're not the family that suffered
>>2511264why are you even a leftist?
Over the past few days the largest apartment complex district in Pokrovsk has fallen to Russia.
>>2511261more russians than necessary have been killed because the kremlins prioritize treating the brotherly hohols humanely and having good relations with trump
>>2511276Good, let's hope a certain leader doesn't create a humanitarian corridor that lets all the Banderites escape…
Putin said the other day that Tomahawks delivered to Ukraine would kill Russian-US relations.
[fast forward a few weeks past their use]
Putin, Peskov, Lavrov: still complimenting Trump
Note this down, I'm very psychic lmao
>>2511270Atacms’s whole point was to cross a red line?
Not to defeat the Russian Army?
>>2511272because America, NATO and EU must die
the wording of "red line" it's funny. barely mentioned by Russian politicians (Putin last time he used that literal line was in February 24, just hours after the SMO). And every time it's an escalation, indeed. but hey, everyone cope in the way they want.
>>2511298you can defeat the ukrainian army and at the same time not let your weakness result in more deaths than necessary
>>2511303Yes, Russian officials don't often use "red line," but they promise retaliation that doesn't come. Like Shoigu, for instance, said in mid 2023 that HIMARS use against pre-2022 Russian territory would result in immediate attacks on Ukrainian decision-making centers. HIMARS has been used on pre-2022 Russian territory.
We've gone from the US being too reluctant to supply safety vests and helmets to Ukros to real-time approval of strikes on Russian soil with their own weapons lol. A strong leader could have made them back off at any moment, because they're terrified of a direct confrontation with Russia, which is why they use a proxy in the first place.
>>2511276>Over the past few days the largest apartment complex district in Pokrovsk has fallen to Russia.Not sure if trolling or serious
>>2511346Neither am I after the gains in ostrich farms, dachas, waste heaps, and mines over the past few weeks.
sorry krautproles you will have to work longer for less because zelensky needs the money.
>Germany's pension and social security system on the verge of collapse
>Germany has proposed raising the retirement age to 73 to prevent the collapse of the pension system, per Reuters
>Chancellor Merz said that Germany can't afford the current social security system and that people will need to pay more from their income.
Christcucktin and his cheek-turning, man… gonna get us all killed.
Ukraine now the all-purpose storm troopers for imperialism. I guess you gotta keep down the ziggers AND the n*ggers.
>Ukrainian mercenaries destroyed in Darfur: Sudan's Ministry of Defense reported the elimination of foreign specialists supporting the Rapid Support Forces rebels
>During combat operations in the Darfur (Sudan) area, units of the 6th Infantry Division of the Sudanese Army eliminated a group of foreign mercenaries, including Ukrainian specialists who were acting on the side of the Western-backed armed formation Rapid Support Forces (RSF). According to the Sudan Ministry of Defense, during the offensive operation on the besieged city of El Fasher, the capital of North Darfur, the rebels suffered "heavy losses in personnel and equipment". Among those destroyed were Ukrainian and Colombian contractors, including engineers in the field of unmanned systems and electronic warfare technologies, who tried to penetrate the outskirts of the city.
>Sudanese sources emphasized that the involvement of Ukrainian specialists outside the Eastern Europe region is not new. Kyiv mercenaries have already been spotted in Syria (since 2023), where they supported anti-regime formations operating under the auspices of the USA, Turkey, and Israel. Previously, similar activity was recorded in West African countries — primarily Mali, where after the withdrawal of the French contingent, Ukrainian specialists actively worked with militants, engaged in operation and maintenance of strike UAVs. Local sources repeatedly published footage confirming the presence of Ukrainians in the zones of armed group activity.
>>2511601>I guess you gotta keep down the ziggers AND the n*ggers.More importantly, what about the zyghurs?
Russia lost because Ukraine survives as a PMC for NATO.
>>2511629Russia lost because Ukraine is de facto NATO, something unthinkable not so far ago and quite a difficult pills for Russians to swallow.
I love however how Russia fights either just Ukraine or whole NATO according to how it suits you
>>2511635>de factoBy which you mean they can’t trigger Article 5
>I love however how Russia fights either just Ukraine or whole NATO according to how it suits youMerely mockery of
>>2511623 >>2511637By which you mean they don't even need to do but they can just send whatever weapon to respond to whatever Russia is doing
>>2511638Oh hey it’s “no u” anon again!
>they don't even need to do but they can just send whatever weaponSo then ISIS was de facto in NATO lmao
>>2511431Russia will win (in heaven due to their massive attempts to avoid all civilian casualties). On Earth though it seems like a stalemate so far.
>>2509571>>2509580Samefag.
Bordiga would've supported Putin
>>2511669>Bordiga would have supported PutinWho gives a fuck about Bordiga and what leftcoms think; Lenin is more important:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1915/jul/26.htm>During a reactionary war a revolutionary class cannot but desire the defeat of its government. Yet for some reason this general gets away with calling relentlessly for a Russian victory as if that's supposed to help workers at all when there are workers being exploited
>>2509543and innocents dying on both sides. Communists in Russia are inept; if they were really Communists and not social chauvinists swept up in war fever, they should have rebelled against Putin and tried coordinating with Ukrainian workers to end this war. No one has answered how a Russian victory in Ukraine helps workers. No one has even answered why this war had to have happened in the first place. If we take Putin at his direct word, he blames Lenin for creating artificial nations and claims that Ukrainian people don't have a historical case for existence and instead have always been part of muh Russia instead. This is reactionary mythologizing and a direct example of Greater Russian chauvinism which Lenin repeatedly criticized.
>>2511678>leninistLeninism isnt real. You are a falsifier
i just wanted to post to call for a russian victory
>>2511635Ukraine is not a member of nato. Even though russia is fighting against its entire mic.
>>2511154Russians can intercept tomahawks with ease.
>>2510961"Russian community" are not ideologically driven nazis. They are just kind of a mobsters. A petty ones at that.
xcancel.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1973717881666875875
An interesting dialogue between Prime Ministers Orban and Tusk:
[Q]: Who's the main threat against Europe right now?
[Hungarian PM Orban]: Economic stagnation and losing competitiveness - this is the danger.
[Q]: Not Russia?
[Hungarian PM Orban]: No, we are stronger than Russia. Make some comparison and base your opinion on the facts. We have more than 400 million people. Russia has 130 and something. Look at the European GDP. It's like that, the Russian is like that. We spend altogether - 27 countries - more on military spending than the Russians. So why we are afraid? We are stronger than they are.
Paper Tiger bros…we've been vindicated…by Orban of all people…
>>2511699>muh gdp>muh demographicsAll that matters is le production. Rusha has more of it.
>>2511702Europe has more production than Russia. What are you talking about?
Poland stronk but also Poland has self-esteem issues
>>2511678>No one has answered how a Russian victory in Ukraine helps workers.>No one has even answered why this war had to have happened in the first place. If we take Putin at his direct word..Again, there's a
hopefully unconscious bias that assumes NATO expansionism is ordinary, the status quo, neutral, uninteresting, etc (and that's me just presuming ignorance on your part, unless you're actually suggesting expansion is progressive), so the question is therefore not
why are NATO expanding, but instead a demand for proof that Russia resisting that expansion is "pro-worker".
>During a reactionary war a revolutionary class cannot but desire the defeat of its government. I'm from a NATO nation, NATO expansion is reactionary to the post-Cold War possibility of there being more factions in Europe than simply themselves and "Russia", factions that may have continued as successors to their communist states with new ideas on continuing towards socialism rather than pre-communist ones, sought alliances with Russia or even countries beyond Europe, may not participate in the spread and rhetorical reinforcement of liberal democracy, etc, I therefore desire the defeat of NATO.
>>2511678>who gives a fuck about bordigaThe youth of belgium
>>2511691>Ukraine is not a member of nato.This doesn't really matter anymore when NATO is now a member of Ukraine.
>>2511635Russia lost? When and where?
>>2511693Russians can intercept tomahawks with easeA 76.4% interception rate is adequate.
Ukrainian military plagued by overspending – NYT>An internal audit has uncovered possible waste and graft in Kiev’s Defense Ministry, the newspaper has reported<The findings fuel concerns that “Ukraine has made little progress in reining in a long history of corruption in military procurement,” the NYT noted, especially as Western donors increasingly shift from sending weapons directly to financing arms production within Ukraine.>“They overpay for unknown reasons and without justification,” said Tamerlan Vahabov, a former adviser to the agency. During ongoing hostilities, he added, “there is a lack of political will to do it the right way.”<The NYT also described Ukraine’s “wartime experiment” of sourcing equipment from a “chaotic swirl of more than 2,000 weapons suppliers” rather than a few big producers. A separate audit revealed that many of the startups had failed to deliver or even lacked production facilities when awarded contracts.https://swentr.site/russia/626019-ukraine-arms-procurement-nyt/Kind of reminds me when NATO was complaining that Ukraine's artillery deficiencies weren't down to the west's low production capacity for shells and maintenance-heavy artillery pieces, but Ukrainians being "wasteful" by using their artillery according to "Soviet" doctrine of firing hundreds of shells a day for area denial, rather than using magic to ensure each non-guided shell hit something militarily relevant.
>>2511678>>During a reactionary war a revolutionary class cannot but desire the defeat of its government. >Yet for some reason this general gets away with calling relentlessly for a Russian victorydo you think leftypol is majority russians or something? most of us live in nato countries
>as if that's supposed to help workers at all the end of the US empire hegemonic domination is a prerequisite (but not enough in itself) for socialism to develop in most of the world, this isnt a hard concept
>had to have happened in the first placebecause when a state feel threatened, it takes measures to protect itself, and the US empire refused all negotiations and a finlandization of ukraine, preferring a destructive war.
>>2511793>the end of the US empire hegemonic domination is a prerequisite (but not enough in itself) for socialism to develop in most of the world, this isnt a hard conceptFor some reason this concept is very hard for like 50% leftypol.
>>2511623>fighting for the RSF, the criminals who managed to surpass the Sudanese army in atrocities against humanity is fighting for democracy Please commit suicide it will be the best thing you ever do
>>2511794Probably because some folks here were around during the fall of the Soviet Union and remember all the futurecasting talk about the fall of America. The lesson was to focus on what's happening right now and not to justify inaction against the hegemon by referring to some unmanifest future.
>>2511790>unironically reposting Kremlin propaganda rt.com+15 Rubble
>>2511802 (me)
On a second read, I think our views may be aligned.
>>2511809I'd post Ukros in Kharkov, but they don't have any power rn.
>>2511805Source is the New York Times, but glad to see you've not fallen to propaganda and have a healthy hair-trigger rejection of the letters R and T
So many ridiculously arrogant claims were made by Ukrainian and NATO officials in the early stages of this conflict, but why do we only ever hear about Russian TV Personalities claiming "Kiev in three days"?
Like earlier I saw a Xweet that was something to the effect of
>If you told anyone in the west in 2021 that they'd be one day firing Tomahawks at Russia they'd be laughing it off as impossible
But the flip-side of that is no one in 2021 in the west thought Russia was going to last so long after having the "ruble turned to rubble" with "devastating" sanctions and Russia running out of tanks to javelins in "two weeks", that giving Ukraine Tomahawks would ever be a necessity for keeping the Ukrainians in the fight.
>>2511823It's not much of a win to point out US generals like Milley overestimating Russia's capabilities.
The problem as well is that Russia did reach Kiev in three days but then later retreated, the official reason being that the West lied (yet again)
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