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Stalinoids have a tendency for projecting their great man idealism and assume Marxist critique of their cult is based on vilifying Stalin the man. However we reject their mythology of the one man (Khrushchev) singlehandedly dismantling an entire mode of production.

The Russian revolution lost because it failed to become international. Stalin had little to no role to play in that. In fact our only contention with Stalin is much less dramatic, it's simply his opportunist decision to not recognize the defeat of the revolution and instead to parade its corpse in order to maintain yet another capitalist state. His and others desecration of the revolution set the workers movement decades back.
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>>2527764
Your analysis is very far from marxism or materialism. You are an idealist through and through


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>>2527555
Anarkiddie/leftcom retard thinks the USSR was 'state capitalist'
Water is wet
more news at 11

>>2528089
Yeah that's the post im replying to silly goose.

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Why are memes made by leftists so verbose?

>>2529388
Because, at least form Marxism, literacy is a prerequisite for participation.
Same cannot be said about "anarcho-"capitalism, liberalism, conservatism, fascism…

>was the Bolshevik party supposed to step down from power when the Germans workers lost in 1918?
Yes. Let the capitalist industralization be led by self-identified liberals to not soil the name of communists for 100 years. Even the libs understood that when they fought against absolutism in 19th century Europe, all or nothing.

>>2529429
HOLY RETARD

>>2529429
the anti ussr ultra just casually admitting to being a complete moron

>>2529443
A regular Tuesday on leftypol

The USSR fell because the party chose to amplify itself above the proletarian masses(non socialist) and dissolve itself against the will of the latter. A people’s government by necessity can not act against the will of the general masses. The reality is the idea of the communist bloc has been proven faulty. Both revolutions in china and russia were overthrown fairly quickly. An international proletarian movement is not maintained with big countries who ultimately have to give in to the interests of imperialist global trade systems. Like stalin even said himself an international proletarian movement is from the bottom up. People of the third world coming together to smash the mechanisms of imperialism themselves

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>>2529428
Literate and /edu/cated people should be able to synthesize their ideas too.

>>2529428
there is basically no truth in this lol, they're often just as unread and illiterate

>>2529329
>brain fried from gooning and defending bourgeois state can't digest and respond to a short sentence
>defaults to automated text axiomatically refuted by what he is replying to

>>2529429
HOLY TRVE

bvmp

>>2532757
>>defaults to automated text axiomatically refuted by what he is replying to
actually the "automated" (past post someone made) text refutes OP and not the other way around


>>2527555
Yeltsinoids and Putinoids seethe about GM and call it reactionary and Nietzschean and deboonked or whatever, but it's undeniably true that the glory of a country can be held back by the weak decisions of one man.
You have only to compare the execution of the Great Patriotic War a world away from the homeland with that of the Donbass "Special Military Operation" right next door.

>>2535651
how could great man theory be nietzschean
why cant people just read the second untimely meditation and shut the fuck up

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tbh, the only time I ever hear people rubbish the great-man sentiment in connection with Stalin is when they're salty about an unfavorable comparison being drawn between the timid actions of the current boomer in the Kremlin and "what Stalin would do."


>>2535651
where to even begin with this ideological slurry you've made.

>>2536009
Yours is the kind of flapping-lips post one makes when one is mad about a post but has nothing cogent to counter it with. It's a rather hackneyed bluff.

>>2536007
>our problem with stalin isn't his person
<but have you considered that he was 'wholesome 'and not 'evil'?
you sound retarded

>>2527555

congratulations ultras, now socialism has no history, historical precedent, or successful examples to point to. you have struck another blow against communism. for some reason.

>>2536433
>congratulations Marx you have destroyed all what the socialist movement hitherto built by critiquing utopianism

That Stalin had force of will and steely resolve while other leaders did not (and do not) wasn't even controversial in leftist circles until 2022.

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Comrades… the revolution has failed. It didn't become international and therefore we have to abandon it. We will be stepping down from power and returning it to the pre-revolution businessmen and landowners. The Soviet Union, party and soviets will be dissolved. Capitalism and liberalism must be embraced by all the soviet republics for the next 100 years. This is the only way to save the workers movement. Thank you and good night, comrades.

>>2527555
Trotsky literally said this. He said if you replaced him with Stalin the exact same thing would happen, with him just being the "big man" instead.

The issues of the Russian revolution stemmed from the peasantry.

>>2538255
wholesome chungus stalin

Thread is living proof that Leftcoms and Trots can only cheer for ideological suicide

>>2538255
Exactly. I agree that the world revolution was probably doomed when the German revolutions failed. But so what did these critics like op expect the Soviets to do? I doubt their answer would be “invent Dengism” but that is the only serious alternative that the Soviets could have taken instead of trying to build socialism in Russia while hoping for another crisis that would give the German/French/British proletariat another shot.

>>2538319
Step down from power as a form of tactical retreat so you can come back later under better conditions, it’s what the Sandinistas did and it worked

>>2538322
>Just capitulate to the capitalists and let the Union collapse so the reactionaries can run the country again

>>2538329
Again, it worked for FSLN

>>2538331
Its not comparable at all you retarded mongrel

>>2538336
Why not? The whites were every bit as savage as the contras

>>2538339
>The situation in this 90s Central American banana republic smaller than most states in the Union is comparable to the 1920s Soviet Union because they both had reactionaries

Kill yourself

>>2538348
No you

>>2538298
Marxism isn't an ideology, lib.

Read The German Ideology

>>2538339
but the reds won in russia. and then they had multiparty elections in the 90s and they lose. also is nicaragua communist now?

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>>2527596
>historically progressive

"Always with the historical dogmatism!"

UP

>>2527596
There isn't a feudal society left on Earth.

>>2556487
Learn to read illiterate western faggot


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