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>>2534525Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trolls
Not reporting is bourgeois
Violators will be launched from trebuchet
first for my toilet is fucking clogged
did houdini bake this one?
this thread seems houdini coded
>>2535908use a plunger and flush before wiping if your turds are really big
>>2535922If it's Houdini coded we need goth chicks ITT
>>2535597What the actual fuck
>>2535925i am going to die alone
>>2535934maybe one day we'll be lucky and politics will finally be atheist infighting instead of abrahamic infighting
>>2535928Hello fellow leftypolers, I need to distract from my avatar being a prebuscent child drawn by a well known japanese pedophile
On the Houdini thread theme. An anarchist writer on the Marines:
>It’s true that wars such as Vietnam and Afghanistan have been difficult for the Marines. For example, they provided the disastrous insecurity in both Saigon and Kabul during the evacuations after the American defeats. They need to re-establish their pride as a fighting force comparable to Tren de Aragua; they need to demonstrate they’re still capable of subduing civilian populations. Evidently, this doesn’t work that well in the third world. But JD Vance theorizes that the Marines can handle Angelenos, who may not impress him ethnically, overall.
>Traditionally, the Marines sing this in unison:
<Our flag’s unfurled to every breeze<From dawn to setting sun;<We have fought in every clime and place<Where we could take a gun.
>Vance characterized the exercise as “a testament to the corps’ strength and unbeatable power.” That power might be nugatory in Kabul or Somalia, but it’s more than enough, as Vance implied so vociferously, to subdue Malibu. Marina Del Rey won’t stand a chance. “Don’t make us fuck up Oxnard,” Vance said, or at least thought to himself in a sort of ecstasy. “We’re not kings,” he may have thought, “we’re a military junta, and we’re coming for Capistrano.” But what he really said was that the troops swarming ashore, the fighter jets, and the artillery rounds “made my heart sing as your vice president.” Vance’s heart sings karaoke to the tune of the falling bombs. In SoCal.
>It’s surprising to me, and no doubt pleasing to Vance, that the Marines don’t at all mind being used this way. They don’t mind being conscripted to serve as the crowd at a political rally. They don’t mind being redeployed to domestic law and immigration enforcement. If ordered to, they’ll attack their fellow Americans with the only sort of force they understand: the deadly variety.
>The discipline of the Marine Corps is staggering and makes my own heart sing, or at any rate bellow death metal. There’s no order they’d refuse as illegal or immoral. There’s no one they wouldn’t kill if ordered to do so. There’s no idea in the tiny helmeted and masked heads perched on their armored bodies except sheer obedience. You wouldn’t think there could be people like that. But you’d be wrong.
>There could be a moment in which some Marines start to reflect on and take pride in what they’re being used for. Their 250-year history has taken them from the shores of Tripoli to the Santa Monica pier, from soldiers to cops, from defenders of the nation to political enforcers. It’s a proud arc, especially if that’s where it ends.https://www.splicetoday.com/politics-and-media/from-the-halls-of-montezuma-to-the-shores-of-laguna-beach>>2535934boo hoo hoo the poor
muslim americans, they suffer sooooo much
disgusting treatlerite yankees
>>2535947kek imagine being hated by your own website not even for your politcal views but being so universally repulsive that even people who might agree with you consider you a freak.
>>2535952What a burgerous reich
full of fries and drone strikes
That is circling all 'round the sun
What a beautiful thing
when I bomb a wedding
In a blink of an eye the bride's gone from meeeeee
soft and sweet
Let me hold the flag close and keep it here
with meeeeeeeeeeeee
And one day we will die
and the nukes we will ride
From the aeroplane over the sea
just like Major Kong
in the Kubrick's flick about The Bomb
And count every beautiful thing we can see
Love to beeeeeeeeeeeeee
In the arms of all I'm keeping here with meeeeeee
>>2535954such a dogshit album
>>2535956it's a meme for a reason
dude made anne frank his waifu
>>2535928>>2535947>「メイドインアビス」つくしあきひとインタビュー (Made in Abyss - Akihito Tsukushi Interview)>Publication Date: July 7, 2017Direct quote from the author. He stares at kids on the street and then uses his memory to draw them naked.
flood post discarded. flood post discarded.
>>2535947who what
wtf which avatar are you talking about
Roundhouse kick all moralists into the sun.
>>2535947what the fuck are you talking about
I blame Jimmy Carter for this government shutdown bullshit. Guy just invented the government shutting down out of nothing to solve a non-problem. The republicans are just using the shutdown to defund every "liberal" government program and literally directing thier dollars to ICE. Is it it illegal? Probably. Who gives a fuck.
>>2535972Made in Abyss is actually completely unreadable because of this. You don't need to pull quotes from the author tbh. Some of the chapters, especially the later ones, are just straight up guro loli erotica for pages uninterrupted. Actually straight up chimo. Guy is a threat to society.
>>2536031Hey that's my state. My college is not going to be open for election day so I might just go and vote third party.
>>2536031I assume it's because she's already the nominee and Spanberger refused money from Dominion Energy. I get that there's no better option here but it's still pretty sus:
>Spanberger positions herself as a moderate Democrat[68] and has called herself a "passionate pragmatist".[69] Virginia's NPR affiliate WCVE-FM called Spanberger's legislative voting record "typical in this highly partisan era" and said she "always voted for Biden's agenda" while still being the fifth-most bipartisan House member when it came to cosponsoring legislation and opposing one of Biden's executive orders on immigration>In 2023, Spanberger voted against overturning the District of Columbia's revision of its criminal code, which reduced the maximum penalties for burglary, carjacking, and robbery.[78][79]>Spanberger opposes defunding the police,[80] and has supported bills that would increase the ability of local police departments to hire and train more officers.[81]>In June 2025, Spanberger supported the U.S. strikes on Iranian nuclear sites.I stopped expecting anything from AOC after she simped for Israel's genocide. DSA was right to pull their endorsement (arguably should have done it earlier) and you can tell someone's a liberal if they still make excuses for her.
>>2536020Fuck you Asuka Makinami >>>>>>> I will go to British heaven after I destroy the UN
>>2536031Virginian here. Not to defend Spanberger or anything but considering her Republican opponent is completely unhinged even by MAGA standards she's unironically the lesser evil here
>>2535916fascianting how hard techno/hardcore/hardstyle became mainstream and it just sucks ass. overproduced, uninspired, boring.
>>2536031semi-related, I just saw this
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/senator-warns-of-trumps-secret-watchlistunexpected for elisa slotkin. I think it's evidence that the more intelligent libs are feeling the pressure
it is wild that there are run of the mill libs and even libertarians coming out with more principled stances of things than socdems. I think it really highlights the opportunism of AOC and the likes
>>2536090I still prefer AOC over chemtrail obsessed thomas massie
>>2535916>>2536086To be pedantic: this crap has more in common with sellout slop pop whores like Scooter of old rather than the 'state' of contemporary hard techno/hardcore/hardstyle; even though they definitely have become saturated, lower quality and commercialized – but not to this extent.
Any random [current year] hard techno/hardcore/hardstyle mix will have a selection of tracks and artists with significantly higher quality of musical capability than whatever this nauseating Record Label-bait trash by a couple of literal who clowns trying to appeal to every fucking demographic possible, including Texan toddlers, can produce.
>>2536103either that or he ejaculated because he got the opportunity to brutalize civilians on the street
>>2536105chuds dont cum, they squirt
>>2535948the only cool thing the Marines ever did was let Evans Carlson form the Raider battalions based on Chinese Red Army tactics and organization
>>2536100fair enough and fully agree. i just see this crap as the logical conclusion of commercialization of the genres i mentioned.
then again, german 'ballermann schlager' always was kinda techno beats with stupid lyrics for shitfaced crowds so its whatever.
>>2536111Same but replace Charlie Kirk with the USSR
>>2536114>hanging with Nazis>raging about bordersBernie they’re gonna knight of the long knives you’re ass down the line.
if you're an American patriot you should unironically support Zohran, headline about a Muslim dude becoming mayor of America's richest city is the fucking largest and easiest PR coup de grace you can achieve after America's reputation is dragged through the mud due to support the Gaza war. American libs keep talking about how diversity is the greatest American strength but does not understand how to use that for realpolitik
>'I am not done' - Kamala Harris tells BBC she may run for president again
>>2536167I never got that vibe from him.
>>2536167tbf there's only a few sitting members of congress with dual citizenship and they're all from latam
>>2536137a white boy from West virginia is more of an obstacle to socialism than a latina from nyc
>>2536168If at first you don't succeed, fail and fail again
>>2536211the groomed soyteens of NY now has a candidate for them
>>2536197>blud still stuck in the idpol psyop:skullemoji:
NGMI
>US immigration law declares inadmissible those who have “been a member of or affiliated with the Communist or any other totalitarian party.”
>>2536243No immigrant is a CPUSA member so it’s not enforceable
>>2536197Neither of them are interested in Marxism, we have retards here debating about this or that identity while IRL momentum passed us by. I remember people here deadass thinking that the Palestine protests would result in Communism spreading across America or some bullshit, and now they're trying to do the same thing with No Kings. We're just tailing and chasing other movements rather than setting our own agenda
>>2536257nobody said they were revolutionary, or even socialist. my point was the lad from west virginia is gonna resist the transition to socialism way more than a brown new yorker, and while its nice the lad from WV pushes the epstein stuff he also believes in a bunch of insane shit like chemtrails and weather modification to please his constituency
>>2536256it should be illegal to say this unless you have asked every New Yorker. Someone get burger OFCOM on the case.
>>2536262>transition to socialismthis wont happen until the uniparty is destroyed
>Americans falling behind on car loans, credit cards, and personal loans, as FICO warns of rising delinquencies, per BI.
>>2536283>this wont happen until the uniparty is destroyedsocialists popping up like mushrooms and securing electorate seats are doing a great job at eroding it
>>2536275a new crop of "leftist" cucks would turn into communist MAGAs or just straight up MIGAs
>>2536289lol the only one "eroding" the uniparty is GLOMPF
>>2536303It's like a metaphor for society or something
>>2536303if you dont critically support this you are NGMI
>>2536303i hope he names his shitty ballroom after charlie kirk
>>2536257There's no denying though that normies are more accepting of the word socialism and some ideas associated with it (even if those ideas are just socdem and they don't really understand what socialism means) compared to even 10 years ago, which is a really good thing. AOC and especially Sanders, despite being flawed, have demonstrably been able to move the needle of the conversation to an extent. Even if AOC is just a radlib (Sanders idk, he talks like a socdem but he might still be socialist even if he doesn't admit it - he's much more consistent than her) shouldn't we still tactically tolerate her in the sense that we should utilize her as a springboard for conversations to convert more people?
>>2536307I love this country
>>2536305meanwhile federal employees are queueing for food…
>>2536087>She is a former CIA analyst and Assistant Secretary of Defense, and now serves on the Senate Armed Services and Homeland Security Committees. She defends the national security state as “good, corn-fed people who just want to help their country” and has said “I’m as hawkish as anyone” on Iran.
<Slotkin in her Senate speech warned that with NSPM-7, the Trump administration had directed law enforcement agencies to “make secret lists of terrorist groups inside the United States and send the full force of the U.S. government against those terrorist organizations.” […] She also decried the Trump administration’s secret list of designated foreign terrorist groups in its war on cartels, saying: “If this administration is not telling us who’s on their secret designated terrorist list for groups in the Caribbean, they’re definitely not going to tell us who is on their list of domestic terrorist organizations.” another astroturfed change of heart from a lifelong ghoul who got us here
>>2536310>we should utilize her as a springboard for conversations to convert more people?people aren't "converted" they pursue their own material interests in the system as i currently exists. they investigate topics which personally interest them, meaning if someone runs up to them and tries to use something which interests them as a "springboard" into something which doesn't, they will feel like they are being sold a product.
just ask working class people how they're doing. ask about their family, occupation, relationships, and dreams (none of which are usually going according to plan). Ignore partisan politics and labels. Yes even the ones you want to normalize. Keep them talking about their grievances. You follow them, not the other way around. They aren't a horse you're leading to drink from the river of communism. They're fully autonomous people. Instead of talking them into communism, let them talk themselves into it.
>>2536307is this a fucking 3d print of an AI generated building
>>2536343You lack vision. Imagine the West Wing being converted into a Casino/Hotel, imagine an evangelical megachurch outside with an animatronic Trump cribbed from Disney's "Hall of Presidents" talking about how he's the bestest Christian ever.
Jokes aside, I remember hearing ages ago that the design of Vegas casinos, the architecture behind it and all, is some of America's favorite pieces of architecture. The argument was something like Architects favoring minimalism and functionality whereas the Mobsters who helped build Vegas were tacky as shit, and Americans love that tackyness.
>>2536351imagine it getting sued to high heaven for using unlicensed copyrighted materials
>>2536360See at first I thought it’d be funny if some were order or law passed saying The President can’t commit copyright infringement, but now I’m thinking the real funniest outcome would be requiring Congress to approve debt repayment for copyright lawsuits and we get just 100 years of Congress bickering over whether to repay the lawsuits while they climb to trillions of dollars in debt.
>>2536349yeah probably. if you go on huggingface or other open source AI platforms there's a lot of generative AI that produce crappy 3D models now, and if you take the output files from those and clean them up a bit you can print them out.
honkoid status?
>>2536309what's it going to be used for? maybe tinfoil hat but i doubt all that is actually going to be for balling.
>>2536307Trump is honestly the perfect president for the AI push because it reflects both his miserly desire to never pay anyone and his tacky, surface-level aesthetic preferences.
>>2536307imagine all the garmonbozia they could serve there
>>2536366past generations of kids would have done the same thing if they had been raised under the same conditions. people are products of their environment long before they reach a state of power where they can make the environment a product of them. It's dialectical you see
>>2536340implying Trump will even make it to the end of the current term
>>2536405
IRA didn't win either, though. If Ireland is reunited it will be because Sinn Fein/some socialist group did so legally or because the UK military collapsed and those same orgs could do it forcefully.
>>2536415
There is unfortunately a big divide between the "model minority" reactionaries and the militant socialist ones. You see this with most "Asian" ethnic groups, though.
>>2536414>revolution doesn't work when not enough people do it, certainly
>>2536428I said the IRA's revolution "didn't" work, not that it "doesn't" ever.
>>2536439critical support to Kilmar and his struggle against the US federal budget
>>2536441
Justify it however you like, but a loss is a loss. History only cares about outcomes, not excuses.
>>2536443>History only cares about outcomesbased and dengpilled
>>2536439No hate to him but why is he specifically getting all this focus when they are doing this to potentially millions of people?
>>2536380It is a great synergy, all the dark money technofeudalist ideologies combine perfectly with the illiterate philistinism of the conservative base. The fact that AI churns out slop that pressures and devalues human creative work is what they want! As a group they’ve always felt aggrieved and bitter by “art,” perceiving (categorically incorrectly) as outside of their personal ability. The kind of person who visits an art exhibit and thinks “I could make this, therefore it isn’t art.”
>>2536449I've noticed this in general. For seemingly arbitrary reasons, random individuals become flashpoints. Like people asked sometimes in 2020 why George Floyd specifically became the flashpoint, and not Breonna Taylor or other victims of police brutality. It was asked why focus on a guy specifically that the right can slander. I don't have one single clean answer to that question but I think in a system full of innocent victims the capitalist media always decides to pick on one who actually does have a problematic past or whatever, in order to force people into defending that person specifically, and not the phenomenon in general. Also I think, and forgive me for pontificating about muh human nature here, people in general care more about individual stories than abstract social phenomena. police brutality against a population is just an excel spreadsheet. A collection of statistics. police brutality against one specific guy is a good story to rally around. I kind of resent this sometimes, but that's the way it is.
>>2536439Probably because he was the first transparently obvious case of the Trump administration trying to deport an American citizen for being brown that caught wider attention. They tried to have him killed in El Salvador and failed and they're fucking fuming over it
what's new in USA land
>>2536457maybe it's fatigue ppl can only handle so much cognitive dissonance b4 they snap
>>2536031not supporting CIA is leftcommunism
All politics aside these ice guys are so easy for people to impersonate for a home invasion. They cover their face, even at times where civilian clothes and they drive regular commercial vehicles. This is not good for people who may take protecting their homes seriously
>>2536471They also refuse to identify themselves and just say "I don't have to identify myself" if you ask.
This used to happen a lot in the 60's-90's I'm actually surprised people don't impersonate officers as much anymore for horrific crimes. Or at least you don't hear about it as much. Maybe they're looking to bring it back.
>>2536468eh she's kinda dumb ("bro open borders lmao") even ignoring the open propaganda. decently looking tho ig
>>2536468>reindustrializationyes
>take power from wall streetyes
>fight multiculturalism and make sure whites stay majority race, you might just think it's darwinian but that's how muh human natureHitler particle alert
tired of people likes this subtly implying I don't deserve to exist because I'm a mutt and have no "muh ethnostate" i can call my homeland and "muh majority RACE spook" gets scared if I exist too close to them
>>2536468>China has weighed in on Graham Platner<it's just some random person from China with groyper politicsok
>>2536482She isn't a random person she works for the ministry of propaganda or w/e.
Most of her content is either being racist against Indians, talking about Chinese military stuff, or weighing in on American politics to incite Americans to revolt.
She is actually a good source of Chinese geopolitics info though. Her posts are usually quite honest and easy to understand from a layman perspective if you ignore the racism towards Indians.
>>2536487>if you ignore the racism🙄
>>2536491>if you don't like racism in general you must be indian specifically. i bet saying pakistan won will trigger you because i'm a retarded reactionary whose only purpose in life is to antagonize people as much as possible with as few words as possible. stoop to my level now!!!!!🥱
>>2536492some anon who claimed to have a bunch of insider knowledge about haz and stinkle being feds whose purpose is to be the trump admin's back channel to "enemy" countries said stinkle would go to DPRK or something later this year. I don't have the screenshot anymore
>>2536487>if you point out the fact that pakistan won you must be a hecking nazik
>>2536496did you respond to yourself on accident retard. try again
THE FEEBLE AND THE FLACCID: On the CPUSA’s Terminal Irrelevance and the Failure of Joe Sims
By Caleb T. Maupin
Oct 25
A spectacle of staggering incompetence has once again exposed the total bankruptcy of the old-guard “communist” parties in America. Joe Sims, the co-chair of the Communist Party USA, recently appeared on television, and in a moment that should be studied as a masterclass in political irrelevance, revealed that he had no idea who New York City mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani was.
Let that sink in. The highest-ranking leader of the oldest communist party in the United States, a man who claims to be at the forefront of the class struggle, is utterly clueless about a high-profile political race in the nation’s largest media market, a race where the candidate is being publicly smeared as a “communist” by his adversaries.
While the CPI provides sharp, timely analysis of global politics, the CPUSA exists in a hermetically sealed bubble, seemingly unaware of the world outside their musty meeting halls. They are not revolutionaries; they are caretakers of a museum piece.
This is not an isolated incident. Recall the high-ranking chair of another fossilized trotskyite sect who, at the height of the media hysteria, had not even heard of “Russiagate.” What planet do these people live on? It is a planet of dogma, delusion, and profound, willful ignorance. They are not building a vanguard; they are presiding over a book club that occasionally herds its dwindling membership into voting for the very Democratic Party that has funded genocide and continues to enfroce the dictatorship of capital.
Their entire strategy is an exercise in flaccidity. There is no thrust, no vigor, no generative power. Only a feeble, circular motion that leads precisely nowhere. They are the castrated eunuchs of the so-called left, guarding an empty palace.
Let us be clear: your Chairman and the Center for Political Innovation DO NOT endorse Zohran Mamdani’s social-democratic project, which is destined to be absorbed and neutralized by the Democratic machine. However, we recognize the objective political reality that his victory would be a significant symbolic blow for the pro-Palestinian cause and a sign of shifting consciousness. This is the kind of real-world, dialectical analysis that escapes the feeble mind of Joe Sims.
The cause of revolution in America has been hamstrung for decades by these incompetent, bumbling fools. They are a laughingstock, and their continued existence is a gift to the FBI and the ruling class.
Thank God that the working class now has a true vanguard. Thank God we have the Center for Political Innovation. Thank God we have a leadership that is engaged, informed, and possesses the Phallic Consciousness required to actually confront and dismantle the imperial system!
While Sims stumbles in the dark. CPI is analyzing, organizing, and innovating. Our movement grows daily, with new chapters founded nationwide.
The CPUSA is the past. The CPI is the future. The choice has never been clearer.
Caleb T. Maupin
Chairman, Center for Political Innovation
daily reminder that any time someone brings up "mass migration" from the periphery to the core, and they aren't bringing it up as a side effect of imperialism and climate change, they are reactionary.
daily reminder that if someone tries to run interference for racist Great Replacement politics by saying it's actually about muh reserve army of labor or muh human nature ingroup preferences, they are reactionary.
Daily reminder that commodities are more free to move around than humans are, and people trapped in Gaza are not allowed to leave even as Israelis are slaughtering them, because Arab nations next to Israel and the US funding the genocide don't want to import the icky icky impoverished people, even as refugees from genocide
reminder that the root cause of mass migration is economic crisis, and if you just want to give more money to the corrupt forces of border militarization, you want to make the problem worse, not better.
Brushed the battery terminals down with a steel bristle brush, applied anti-corrosive and flushed it. Still no dice. Talked with some buddies and they're thinking its probably the alternator (lord knows my car is old enough) so it looks like this might set me back some money.
>>2536487I can’t find a source that Zhao Dashuai works for the Chinese government other than herself and the Atlantic Council.
>>2536514idgaf whether they do or not, either way it's just a xitter account pushing Groyper politics
>>2536500>THE FEEBLE AND THE FLACCIDhe wrote about his dick cock penis haha
>>2536487Reactionary nationalist is a working member of the contemporary "C"PC's propaganda wing
Unsurprising.
>>2536539It's called proletarian capitalism chud, every time you criticize PRC, Xi puts the communism button away for another year!
>>2536546>their capitalismas if capitalism is somehow fundamentally different in one place versus another
>>2536526but Nick's bit is that it specifically has to be a black Republican woman
>>2536551he says in the bit that it doesn't have to be a republican
>>2536553yeah i started listening and I forgot that part lol. I was going off memory
>>2536546why is chinese dirigism more glazed than the stuff that happens in norway or france
its just european social democracy but made shittier with internet censorship
like it's seen as the mark of a bernout radlib to say we should be like scandinavia, but people think they're le based hardcore fighter against the bourgeoisie for being a dengist
like surely the only reason you would glaze china is if you thought it was actually communism
>>2536494>If that's your honest fucking opinion then why the FUCK would you run a black woman WHO LOST a second time in a racist, sexist country when you are up against what you correctly percieve as explicit Fascism??Let me explain something about the dems: they can never fail, but only be failed by their voters. Shit there was some ragebait on reddit the other day smirking "Well I hope TRUMP made not voting 'cause of Gaza worth it!" and a bunch of libs in the comments saying "you can't let perfect be the enemy of 'good'" and "When you have a candidate who's a PEDOPHILE RAPIST you have a RESPONSIBILITY to vote for the other candidate!"
So they'll keep running Kamala or Hillary, because it's your responsibility vote for the wimminz and PoCs, doesn't matter if you're morally outraged by them giving Israel billions in munitions, its your
moral responsibility to vote Dem in their mind. Even if Hillary ate a fucking baby on stage it'd still be your responsibility. The party doesn't respond to you, you respond to the party.
>>2536556it's fundamentally about geopolitical alignment, not about dirigisme and social democracy.
>>2536559oh so it's even stupider then
>>2536562They don't really benefit more than any other country. If you view things from this framework, the United States may as well have funded the development of China after Nixon with its investment and consumption.
>>2536562china's just going through the process that happened in europe around 1900 where social democracy is mutating from marxism and splitting off, but it's happening now instead of 100 years ago because china developed later
>>2536468Obvious fake account come on
>>2536549>as if capitalism is somehow fundamentally different in one place versus anotherit is. state capitalism in the hands of a bourgeois party is different than state capitalism in the hands of a communist party. Lenin said the same over 100 years ago. You shouldn't flatten all differences between countries into a vague ideological soup where the burger reich and its enemies are equal because none of them have abolished commodity production yet.
>The proletarian state may, without changing its own nature, permit freedom to trade and the development of capitalism only within certain bounds, and only on the condition that the state regulates (supervises, controls, determines the forms and methods of, etc.) private trade and private capitalism.<Lenin, 1922But even if you think the CPC isn't really communist, we shouldn't ignore real differences between countries that can be taken advantage of strategically.
>>2536563Nah China's development wasn't really the same. The US thought that by introducing markets to China they could make the people "more liberal" through giving them access to western shit, but if anything support for the CCP has only grown since the 70's as the rest of the world has seen constant economic crises while China's centrally managed economy has remained stable. It's safe to say the US gambit regarding markets being a liberalizing force has failed spectacularly.
>>2536564Doubtful since Europe still had nationalist friction and living aristocracies as negative influences on its left-wing movements. That's why we ended up with shit like the Nazis replacing Germany's Social Democrats, as social democracy wasn't very effective at combating rampant nationalism and eventually fell victim to it.
The CCP in contrast has been very proactive in avoiding nationalism or aggression in its rhetoric. Even towards India if you ignore random CCP twitter accounts that only really exist to counter Indian disinformation. Though it is evident that China likes to radicalize the lumpenproles of other nations with low autism score racist clickbait that conveniently avoids mentioning China or pandering to Chinese people. Like it's very clear pic related's propaganda is directed at Americans/Canadians and not Chinese nationals. That's why it's in English.
Meanwhile domestic Chinese media is very much about "harmonious human development" and "peaceful coexistence" all the time. They even report positively on Trump, of course with a pro-China slant, whenever he meets with Xi.
>>2536570I don't know if she's fake but she posts herself fairly often. Unless you think she's AI generated or something. Her posts are also very specifically focused on the region of China in which she works and random shit that is more glazing the PLA instead of geopolitics. It seems like a genuine propaganda account, and if not then she's very good at propaganda for a shitposter.
>>2536560not really. the USA has an estimated 800 offshore military bases. China has fewer than 10. The CIA has couped dozens of nations in Latin America, Africa, and Asia. China's MSS has couped nobody yet to my knowledge. The USA uses sanctions and embargoes to strangle nations into submission. The Chinese do not. The USA uses IMF loans to force privatization and structural adjustment programs onto global south countries. China does give loans, but they are usually 0% interest, and sometimes the principle is forgiven. America calls this the "Chinese Debt Trap in Africa" but from the African perspective, if you actually watch interviews, the Chinese are bailing them out of their IMF loans, which pisses off the USA.
The USA has invaded and occupied tons of countries since the last time China invaded someone, which was about 50 years ago if I recall.
China has an export-driven market, and does not have global currency hegemony upheld by a world reserve currency status.
America has an imports-driven market, and does have global currency hegemony upheld by a world reserve currency status
America has a multiparty political system
China has a single party political system
In China all land is owned by the state, and only leased for up to a 70 year period
In America, most land is privately owned by individuals or corporations.
Even by the logic of them both being capitalist, the differences are night and day.
The only thing America and China have in common is that the Average American person and the Average Chinese person both have a house filled with commodities made in China.
>>2536580Markets always existed in Communist China. You americans have no idea of what you speak of. To negate the commodity aspects of socialist direct social products and to attempt to abolish commodity production prematurely is obviously erroneous. Ch’en Po-ta, a renegade and Trotskyite, clamored for the abolition of commodity production and exchange during the period of the rapid development of China’s rural people’s commune movement in a vain attempt to lead revolution and construction astray. Chairman Mao saw through this conspiracy in time and engaged him in a resolute struggle. In the resolutions of the Sixth Plenum of the Eighth Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party personally convened and chaired by Chairman Mao, this was pointed out: “This way of thinking which attempts to prematurely abolish commodity production and exchange, prematurely negate the constructive role of commodities, value, money, and price is detrimental to developing socialist construction and is therefore incorrect.” Socialist commodity production must not only be retained, but must also be developed to consolidate the economic link between China’s industry and agriculture and between urban and rural areas in order to promote the development of socialist construction.
zohran status?
>>2536609slandered by libs as the second coming of adolf hitler for making da jooz of new york scared
slandered by leftcoms as the second coming of adolf hitler for being a typical succdem cuck who tries to calm down his libfash critics by compromising at every turn
>>2536627here is my pro gamer tip for zohran mamdani: don't try to calm down his libfash critics by compromising at every turn
>>2536580I’m not seeing anything that screams this person is real.
>>2536580>>2536631Reminds me of when weebs use to use pictures of women they were obsessed with and claim it was them years ago. Or that one guy who pretended to be a tradwife on twitter less years ago.
>>2536638that was mostly kpop incels actually I think. weebs use anime girls.
>>2536457>I've noticed this in general. For seemingly arbitrary reasons, random individuals become flashpoints … I kind of resent this sometimes, but that's the way it is.I think it's a normal, rather natural sort of thing. It's like the movement "from the particular to the general," where a particular person or what happened to him down at the level of messy reality (not a spreadsheet) crystallizes a general social contradiction. If there's a contradiction or bundle of them (like police brutality and racism), it'll eventually find a person.
>>2536580>I don't know if she's fake but she posts herself fairly often. The first pic is supposed to be her?
>>2536631>I’m not seeing anything that screams this person is real.Ever since X: Blaze Your Glory monetized engagement a lot of accounts like this were rewarded. Like it could be some person trying to trigger Indians to increase engagement to make easy money.
>>2536649>The first pic is supposed to be her?I think so. She posts a lot about the PLA's children events. Though it could just be a propaganda cover to push the "tradwife" thing.
>>2536650Whats the groyper meme you're referring to?
>>2536649> Like it could be some person trying to trigger Indians to increase engagement to make easy money.I’m going with this until I see concrete evidence.
>>2536649>Like it could be some person trying to trigger Indians to increase engagement to make easy money.There's a lot of tweets that are unrelated to India.
I tend to believe a lot of the propaganda on Twitter from these bot accounts are actually nation-states. In which case it's not strange for China to also be involved in this game.
>>2536656> There's a lot of tweets that are unrelated to India.That makes sense.
Can’t put all your eggs in one basket on the engagement farm.
>>2536494People here unironically believe that Trump's going to cancel le elections forever. He won't need to rig or cancel the election when the Dems are seemingly intent to find the perfect candidate for the coronation of J.D. Vance or even Trump himself.
>>2536495>some anon who claimed to have a bunch of insider knowledge about haz and stinkle being feds whose purpose is to be the trump admin's back channel to "enemy" countries said stinkle would go to DPRK or something later this year. I don't have the screenshot anymoreI wouldn't be suprised if this were the case. Dutch glowies made a Maoist party back in the 60s/70s so they could have backdoor negotiations with the PRC.
>>2536629>here is my pro gamer tip for zohran mamdani: don't try to calm down his libfash critics by compromising at every turnAll he needed to do is stick to "The rent is too high" and not fall for obvious traps laid by the DNC and Israel Lobby and people wouldn't have gotten on his case.
>>2536457Floyd's murder was recorded but Taylor's murder was covered up. Stop your bourgeois psychologism
>>2536449The liberal media colludes with the fascist republican government to make kilmar a bourgeois spectacle because he is the perfect martyr because he is petty bourgeois so the millions of worker peasant migrants are untalked about.
>>2536673>Floyd's murder was recorded but Taylor's murder was covered up. Nobody who would have gone on to march for Floyd would have believed the coverup around Taylor or Sandra Bland for that matter. There are lots of civilians murdered by cops on camera btw but not all of them result in a spontaneous mass movement. Take for example Daniel Shaver, or this elderly man in a wheelchair whose name I don't even know. The mass movement around George Floyd was against police brutality
in general but George Floyd specifically became the flashpoint, just like the movement around Kilmar Abrego Garcia is against ICE brutality
in general be he himself has become the flashpoint. Anon originally asked why K.A.G. is the flashpoint when there are countless other examples of ICE brutality. I was attempting to answer that question.
>Stop your bourgeois psychologism 🙄 give it a rest
>The liberal media colludes with the fascist republican government to make kilmar a bourgeois spectacle because he is the perfect martyr because he is petty bourgeois so the millions of worker peasant migrants are untalked about.This is a good answer (and not mutually exclusive with the other one) so I will not dismiss it
>>2536676i heard the "extinct" banana he eats is what the banana candy flavor is based off of
>>2536567yeah he's a fucking nazi. wild to get a nazi tattoo to cover up your old nazi tatoo
>>2536693why are we allowing this to be the goalpost. the original loser who posted this bitch was using her as a "based chinese" mouthpiece to complain about Muh Great Replacement By Brown Migrants. idgaf about this bitch and idk why we have spent half the thread talking about her. she might not even be real, and if she is idgaf about her groyper opinions about how America needs to stay Majority White to be politically stable, which was the whole reason she was posted in in the first place. As a trojan horse to smuggle nazoid bullshit
>>2536696Well I think it's all that too. But we can connect these two threads together, because the Nazoid bullshit and online grifting go well together. It's all about creating some kind of reaction that can be exploited for $$$
>>2536031demokkkrats will never change. they will nominate hitler before daring to move one inch to the left, and cry it's the lesser of two evils (reeee the other side nominated hitler with actual horns) and yet call themselves progressives.
>>2536696>to complain about Muh Great Replacement By Brown Migrants.what?
I just thought she's funny because her tweets read like leftypol but with a lot more anti-Indian racism. I posted it because I was discussing it on 4chan to show how Chinese propaganda is like 90% focused on India while ignoring the rest of Asia, and figured I'd make a silly post here since the thread was dead.
>>2536693This is good research I thought they didn't look alike but I wasn't sure due to Chinese girls loving their filters.
Here's another selfie she posted.
don't post Agent Kochinski
>Advertising Value: Platforms like Facebook and Google generate revenue by showing you hyper-targeted ads. Your attention and clicks, guided by your data, are the product.
<The "Year of You": A 2022 report by the Australian company Omni GNT calculated that the data a typical person generates in one year could be worth up to $2,500 to a company like Meta, based on their advertising revenue.
Theoretically, in a society where big internet platforms are socialized, a population of people could live solely on the personal data they generate using the Internet, totally outside the normal capitalist wage labor system.
So long as the rest of the world manufactures the stuff using the data that's produced, there wouldn't be a reason to have a single factory in the country, as there's gonna be a point where workers using the internet generates more value than putting stuff together in a factory
>>2536712>expensive prostitutedamn the DPRK don't play lol
>>2536703Angkar killed none of the people. Angkar saved the people
<Within the new Kampuchean society, there are life-and-death contradictions owing to the presence of enemy agents, who belong to the various spy networks of the imperialists and international reaction and who secretly implant themselves to carry out subversive activities against our revolution. These antagonistic contradictions are also due to another infamous handful of reactionary elements, who carry out their counter-revolutionary work and seek to destroy our Kampuchean revolution. These elements are small in number, one to two percent of the population. Some camouflage themselves and try to pass for the people, while others work openly. We do not consider these traitors, these counterrevolutionary elements, to be part of the people. They are enemies of Democratic Kampuchea, of the Kampuchean revolution and of the Kampuchean people. Contradictions with these elements must be solved by the measures proper for enemies: separate, educate and win over the elements which can be won over; neutralize the elements which are wavering, preventing them from doing any damage to the revolution; and, finally, isolate and eradicate only the smallest possible number of those elements who are cruel and persist in acting against the revolution and the people, and collaborate with foreign enemies to destroy their own people and their own revolution. Thirdly, we have all just seen that our people, 90% of whom are workers, peasants and other laboring people, have liberated themselves. In addition, there are also patriotic elements, constituting eight to nine percent of the population, who followed and joined the revolution. This comes to a total of 98% to 99%. To liberate 98% to 99% of the population, especially the working people, is to liberate a vast productive force. Historical materialism has clearly shown that man is the determining factor in production. So, our people — who, in the past were a wasted force, suffering unspeakable humiliations and brutal exploitation, deprived of all initiative and any chance of working to improve their conditions, who could not build up their country and make it prosper — today, our people are free. They have smashed the old system of production, which was based upon exploitation. >>2536702>I posted it because I was discussing it on 4chan to show how Chinese propaganda is like 90% focused on India while ignoring the rest of AsiaIs it? I read Guancha from time to time and they have a lot of articles about what's going on in Asia. I read more about the whole dustup between Thailand and Cambodia there than I did in the Western press. I think you're getting taken for a ride.
>>2536712that vid is incredibly based but I think China is taking the correct stance here. you don't need to dunk on other nations when you're already winning. grand celebrations of your victory is enough to make the enemy seethe. China recognizes that the American Empire is gonna commit all its resources to defame the People's Republic so it's more important to maintain goodwill and completely sidestep America's media hysterics.
Now when it comes to India they're totally ruthless but that's also because India is a direct competitor in the region while the US is already a dying empire.
>>2536717I said propaganda not geopolitical analysis. There aren't a lot of Chinese trollfarms dunking on Korea for example. It's mostly the other way around. China spends most of its propaganda resources trying to undermine India as far as I can tell, since India is the only geopolitical threat in the region.
Like you don't see pic related in China shitting on other countries the way Korea/Japanese propaganda antagonizes China. It's mostly a one-way relationship of seething.
periodic idiotic
>>2536716Post as big of a text wall as you want it won't change the fact that you're a liberal fascist leftcom.
>>2536380I am pretty sure the AI he generate is expensive.
>>2536730You’re too blackpilled to see the actual reality of the situation
>>2536720>It's mostly a one-way relationship of seething.actually that-s how indians think about china while chinese people barely think about indians
>>2536736This was funny when it came out but tbqh I wish there was a non meme version, it's heartening
>>2536732And whats the actual reality?
>>2536739Chicago influencer culture is just as bad tbh. The only difference between Chicago and NYC/SF is that Chicago has affordable housing due to not being on an island.
>>2536712North Korea needs to release a diss track.
She’s spitting fire
>>2536739the public transport is nice but it's mismanaged with a mountain of debt
>>2536738I just ignore the monke. I think someone did make a quick version without the monkey, but it needs more work. Don't have that one laying around either unfortunately.
I've been meaning to edit it myself, as well as a frame by frame edit of the read a book rap video but with communist bibliography. Sooner or later I will do it.
>>2536736This is why socialists need to run on bringing back the banana
>>2536747>>2536744>>2536739Chicago is better in that its cheaper than coastal cities while still offering alot of amenities, plus will probably be more insulated from climate change.
Its basically a whiter, cheaper, Midwestern version of NYC.
Downside its kindof a slowly dying city like Detroit but with second tier not as good as NYC finance bros, and rando F500 companies that make tractors or something, meanwhile every year more people relocate to Dallas or whatever the fark.
>>2536736Ignore everything after Ted KKK shows up and it's kino.
>>2536748left and its not even close
>>2536745
Everyone was always doomed to die from the day they were conceived. The worst that you can do will still do nothing words than doom everyone to what was already going to happen. And everything you do better than that is something that gives another hope of something else.
So there's no reason not to try.
>>2536745
Isn't that exactly why I feel discouraged? And "in our lifetimes" is less than our lifetimes actually. assuming we will live 50 years more. By then it will be too late
>>2536748War crimes and genocide denial champions vs corporatist hellholes with brutal conditions for workers.
>>2536748left looks like the optimistic good mc and right looks like the dubious frenemy rival
>>2536743Late
>The masses are dumb cattle. Propaganda machine can not be beat. Neither of these things are. That is the reality of the situation. We wouldn’t have all this discussion of palestine, or ICE, or have such a high rating with younger folks if either of what you said was true.
Also, calling the proletariat “the masses” much less cattle, is more befitting of a reactionary than someone who truly seeks the end of the capitalist system.
>>2536762Idiot misanthropes need to understand that their beloved dolphins will be drowning in a green sea of acid (which is covered in algae) if nothing is done about capitalism. There won’t be much life left on this earth if man falls.
Also
>HHuman KKKind really does deserve to get extinct and leave the dolphins in charge of the Earth.>Bourgeois Socialismhttps://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch03.htm >>2536748sex right marry left
>>2536776>pump n dumping a korean woman to marry a japanesemany such cases
>>2536767I was mostly just joking about the dolphins but yeah, LOTS of species will sadly disappear in the inevitable anthropocene extinction event. Still, I doubt macroscopic life in its totality will die and the biosphere will ultimately recover even if it takes millions of years. Hopefully whatever dominant species remains in the planet after that is less selfish and ignorant than us.
>>2536727Read Pol Pot's lesson very slowly and reflect upon it before speaking
>>2536716 . You are the imperialist fascist liberal who compares Pol Pot to trump. This is grave error because Angkar saved the people.
>>2536788>Hopefully whatever dominant species remains in the planet after that is less selfish and ignorant than usThere isn’t going to be enough resources for another dominant species. Humanity is it. Anything after us is fucked.
>>2536791Idk bro if life on Earth survived pic related (which is not even top 3 biggest extintions) it can definitely survive man-made climate change.
Life on Earth will only truly perish after the Sun turns into a red giant and absorbs everything in its path, which is not scheduled to happen until like 5 billion years in the future.
>>2536724Based. The always right position.
>>2536792>Life on Earth will only truly perish after the Sun turns into a red giant and absorbs everything in its path, which is not scheduled to happen until like 5 billion years in the future.And life will be completely helpless on earth during those 5 billion years, doomed to die entirely and so permanently all because humanity failed. The futures of life after us will be stolen ones. That is what I am saying. They will never be able to reach our achievements.
>>2536792>Life on Earth will only truly perish after the Sun turns into a red giant and absorbs everything in its path, which is not scheduled to happen until like 5 billion years in the future.actually long before the red giant swallows the earth, plate tectonics is expected to stop, which is hypothesized to disrupt the carbon cycle, destroy the earth's magnetic field, erode the atmosphere and leave us unprotected from solar radiation
>>2536712lmfao this should be the opening file for every thread from now on
>>2536796>They will never be able to reach our achievements.Maybe that's for the best. Like I'm no misanthrope "humanity is the REAL virus" type but genuinely look at all the fucking harm we have caused to our fellow Earthlings and you start to wonder if maybe civilization and the ability to manipulate tools wasn't worth it at all and we should have remained in African caves living under primitive communism for the rest of time.
And yeah, I know that stuff like climate change, factory farming and habitat destruction is mostly the fault of capitalism and the bourgeoisie rather than humanity as a whole but if we aren't able to collectively overcome this system that's currently destroying us then we have nobody to blame but ourselves for our eventual collapse.
>>2536580>It's safe to say the US gambit regarding markets being a liberalizing force has failed spectacularly.You're right that support for the CCP remained strong, but China did liberalize a lot.
>>2536806>Maybe that's for the bestBruh
>but genuinely look at all the fucking harm we have caused to our fellow Earthlings and you start to wonder if maybe civilization and the ability to manipulate tools wasn't worth it at all and we should have remained in African caves living under primitive communism for the rest of time. I don’t dig primitivism. It’s reactionary, miserable, and simply more “good old days” nonsense. I refuse Ted Kaczynski.
>I know that stuff like climate change, factory farming and habitat destruction is mostly the fault of capitalism and the bourgeoisie rather than humanity as a wholeUh huh
>but if we aren't able to collectively overcome this system that's currently destroying us then we have nobody to blame but ourselves for our eventual collapse.We’ll be too dead to play the blame game.
>>2536807China is definitely the winning power of the 21st century but unironically
at what cost?
Was integrating 1/6th of the total population to the global market, subjecting them to brutal working conditions as to be a giant sweatshop for the West and reinvigorating capitalism in the 70s when it was going through a period of crisis really all worth it in the end for Labubus, Genshin Impact and drone shows in the Beijing skyline?
>>2536807meh I don't think any of China's cultural liberalization has eroded the CCP's core tenets. it was a very managed liberalization and they safely transitioned through the market economy phase and are now heading towards socialism with chinese characteristics after skipping social democracy(lol).
>>2536823If you ask the Chinese people that lived through that period of brutal working conditions they're arguably the most patriotic pro-CCP group. They would all say it was worth it to give their grandchildren a better life.
>>2536758
The question was "why should I do anything when i've lost all hope" is an ask for hope. And the simple reason is that anything you do positively gives you better chance than not doing anything, and that the worst that will happen is simply what already would happen anyway.
>>2536823what is the alternative?
Ted Kazcynski had the kind of ideas only a depraved lunatic mind could have and most of it was rubbish but like a broken clock he was right about one thing - our civilization being structured in a way that is dehumanizing and degrading and only beneficial to a very small select group of people at the top. But he wasn't the first to point that out or even close to it. We only know his name because of the bombs, if not for the bombs he would be nothing more than a footnote in a math textbook.
>>2536844Also if you're so lacking in confidence in the persuasive power of your own manifesto that you need to build bombs and blow people up just to get anyone to read it, maybe you should take that as a sign that your manifesto is a bag of shit. Marx didn't have to blow anybody up.
>>2536850why is it alway some faggot named aiden
>>2536850Dood was literally a Pagan. Fuck how I wish Hitler started with Christians. The world would be so much better
>>2536712>Told the dprk is a brainwashed nation of propaganda addeled automatonsCan't find the lie in this video
>>2536835Idk man even though I love to complain about Dengoids I doubt I myself would have done anything differently if I was in their position.
The thing with Deng and Bukharin in the early Soviet Union is that although they were definitely right deviationists and capitalist roaders they were still working under a Marxist framework and understanding of economy and politics. It's mostly the stuff that came after them (Stalinoid liquidationist bureaucracy and the total liberal capitulation that happened under Jiang Zenmin) that I hate the most. Xi's politics are a step in the right direction and China today is definitely a thriving society and great place to live in so maybe they did make the right choice after all, at least on a national level.
>>2536856Stalin was the greatest Communist leader in the world, and his only real crime was not shooting enough people.
>>2536850>Aiden Hunter<Adolf Hitlernominative determinism
>>2536856I don't think Deng did anything wrong exploiting the West's overconfidence in their own system and I don't think that makes him a deviationist for playing the long game. The Chinese thinkers of that era were still very much orthodox Marxists and not trying to radically change things. If they wanted to there was nothing stopping them from having a full Gorbachev moment and killing the experiment to enrich themselves. The fact the people in charge at the time are now just retired statesman with a normal legacy and not oligarchs like the former Soviet leaders is telling of their sincerity towards Chinese Communism.
If anything I find it extraordinary that China managed to navigate through the "Capitalist reforms" relatively unscathed ideologically. This is probably due to Xi's anti-corruption crackdowns unironically. During the 00's there was a lot of fear/expectation that China was "liberalizing" but Xi cracked down on that shit hard thank god. China's system has proven itself fairly resilient to corruption and that gives me a lot more faith in their future compared to the USSR or USA.
>>2536869>water in gas tank>not just using sugar so it destroys the car entirely and the entire engine has to be replaced
>break mirrorswhat the fuck's that supposed to do lmao
>>2536875Sugar in the gas tank doesn't work, the sugar just dissolves in the gasoline. It's not good for the engine but it's not going to instantly disable the vehicle.
The best way to do that is honestly just to swing a spike (like from a pickaxe) or crowbar through the radiator, which will absolutely fuck the vehicle up and make it inoperable very fast.
Of course, none of you soft handed nerds own or use tools so it's not a surprise you go with the bugs bunny type stuff.
>>2536823uygha, its what Marx wanted.
>>2536810>the room is shaped like a ballheh
WaOw iS tHaT a FreAkIng StAr WaRs rEfeReNcE?! >>2536712another best korea win
>>2536792imagine giving a shit about geopolitics when we boutta have another supercontinent in only
checks watch 250 million years.
wow modSS now banning mentions of climate change on here.
>>25368859 / 10 ban complainers were usually violating rule 11 or rule 14 and pretended whatever part of their post wasn't against the rules is the real reason they were banned (take it to /meta/)
>>2536887 i bet you always told the teacher that they forgot to assign homework, didn't you?
>>2536889yep, you did it every time.
>>2536799https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_futureI just checked and not only you're right but even much before that and within the next 100k years there's several possible total life extinction events (vulcanism, glaciation, melting of the poles, the sun getting bigger) that can or WILL happen and we cannot do anything to stop them, even assuming we have dealt with man-made climate change.
I don't know maybe humanity (assuming it even exists by then) will figure something out or we're REALLY completely insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
>>2536875>>2536876>water in gas tank>no use le crowbarreal ones put chlorine in the brake fluid
>>2536872Lotta people see Gorbachev as some kind of scheming figure whose plan was always to sell out the Soviet Union in exchange of a slice of Pizza Hut but him and a lot CPSU members were just doing what they believed was best to preserve the USSR a la Dengist China until the very last days when things finally got out of control and everything collapsed.
Of course there was also a lot of behind the scenes ratfuckery going on between the West and corrupt Soviet bureauKKKrats and the fall of the Warsaw Pact definitely not help either but I really don't think there was much political and ideological differences between him and Deng and the reason why the China today is good and the former Soviet Union sucks balls is mostly due to external factors.
>>2536896it's funny I got into communism AFTER learning all these things, because to me, the unification of humanity by Communism is the only thing that will allow us to become a Type II civilization in time to stop some of this stuff.
But most people think that's fantasy and we'll just kill each other in racial holy wars until the climate kills us. Oh well!
>>2536281Charming and handome?
>>2536366You'd think they'd learned what a "prompt stack" is at this point.
>>2536494Dude why so salty over libs? Kust enjoy trump ai kino while it lasts.
>>2536823>is 4x the real wages growth in merely 3 decades really worth it?I swear to god u guys turn into neocons when discussing china
>>2536929learning is what they're trying to avoid
>>2536383Past generation kids had some level of emotional autism score or at least were conditioned to be better at lying. like 20 years ago when you copied a math test from a friend you'd try to work backwards and add some chicken scratch to "show your work" so you'd have some plausible deniability if you got caught.
gen alpha grew up with a Youtube algorithm as their only caretaker and entered into a school system where some online web portal was their teacher, only to discover ChatGPT to let them cheat the web portal. but without any of the human element that required humility or finesse they just don't see a need to hide their cheating because the AI at the other end doesn't give a shit it's "sincere" or not, just that the task is completed. they were taught to be unfeeling automatons interacting with other unfeeling automatons in the way a robot would, and that's exactly what they're doing.
I still think it's extremely concerning that the humanity is being ripped out of these people.
>>2536850Adolphus Hytler IV is hurt by the objectifying antifascist gaze. Please respect Hytler's pronouns: das/führer.
>>2536905>Muh Gayson SphereDude TOKAMAK
>>2536948>v8Very good, keep em comin
>>2536904>I really don't think there was much political and ideological differences between him and Deng and the reason why the China today is good and the former Soviet Union sucks balls is mostly due to external factors.I don't know if it's external … but some kind of system-agnostic tendency in Russian history for things to eventually reach a head (on a long enough timeline) and then it just goes kablooey within three days, and nobody sees it coming, and the whole state collapses. This has happened multiple times. Only in Russia.
Remember Prigozhin? What if he didn't call it off? It's a forewarning. It's going to happen again. It'll happen in the 2030s and we're all going to be watching this Jenga tower of a state start to wobble, and everyone is going to think it's a nothingburger and "you're a schizo" and then BAM. You just have to live long enough. За здоровье.
>>2536904>the reason why the China today is good and the former Soviet Union sucks balls is mostly due to external factors.How external are we talking? Because imo it is just that Russians got too comfortable interacting with Europeans/Americans and started adopting their ideology. They were too trusting and it corrupted their society to the point it collapsed. There's too many stories of Russian political representatives becoming way too friendly with their American counterparts.
This never happened in China. Both because of the West's obsession with their own "cultural superiority" to never treat China as an equal power, and because the Chinese got a front row seat to watch how the West dismantled the USSR and its allies like Cuba that showed that coexistence with the West was not possible.
>Kamala Harris tells BBC she might run for president, again | BBC Newscast
LMFAO. DO IT DUMBASS.
>>2536953depressing trvke
>>2536504If it runs when you have an external charge on the battery, but dies soon after taking it off, it's the alternator. If the engine can't turn over at all, it's the starter. Starter is a cheap fix. It's just a little swap job.
>>2536985>pls read my mashed together quote list that defends capitalismwrong, not what is happening, illiterate as usual
>>2536792The radiance of the sun continually increases and will sterilize the Earth before the sun goes red giant although I've heard different estimates, maybe in a billion years, maybe less.
>>2536904>why the China today is good and the former Soviet Union sucks balls is mostly due to external factorsUtterly wrong. The difference is vastly internal because China is a Communist nation and not a hitlerish world spanning social fascist empire.
>>25370571. You post anime, not actual thoughts. Chances you ever have a job are below 10 percent.
2. You sound like bourgeois psychopath who is about to stab my dog and i. You will never be leftist
>>2536823A billion replies, not one actually responding to the text at hand
>>2537069Utterly unemployed blubbery
>>2537111the answer was obvious to everyone. yes it was
>>2537112Half of america is unemployed but you are brainlet ultra third worldist who just wants to kill american babies. You forgot to post your anime reaction
>>2537103What's that? I'm guessing somethin zionist?
>>2537119Not him but Americans will kill their own babies, we don't have to lift a finger. Its in the USAs nature to genocide and soon they will genocide themselves tic toc tic toc settler.
>AOC: Some of y'all need to cool it with the toxic empathy
Less than 40 percent of americans work full time so being unemployed is proletarian. Hasan Bateman labor aristocrat prolelarpers are bourgeois
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/full-time-employment>Bernie Sanders: We Fascists are the only true anarchists, naturally, once we're masters of the state. In fact, the one true anarchy is that of power.
>>2537085bolsocucks on suicidewatch
>>2535928I had a car with this setup. The radio amp was also under the passenger seat and the drain plugs were notorious for getting clogged. With enough rain/debris, water would pool, short out the amp, and kill the battery. The battery posts were also on the top of the battery (user error maybe on this one), so I had to take it out to get the connectors off. I've never swore as much as I did contorting myself inside that wheel well.
With my current car, if I want to change the front lights I have to REMOVE MY FRONT BUMPER. That's why you'll find me riding with my brights on atm.
>>2537175AOC should take her own advice considering her relationship with the bourgeoisie.
>>2537211I think the job market’s been fucked since 2008
>>2537206it's gonna be so funny how fugly it is when its done I actually can't wait
>>2537222it's honestly just trolling at this point. two sides fight over 'based' or 'cringe' aesthetics while the reps + dems sleepwalk us into tyranny.
>>2537225it doesn't matter if it's 'effective', it keeps people mad and distracted
Feels like the steam got knocked out of pro Palestine movement now. I want the war to restart.
>>2537231That’s just opposition suppression at work. They’re currently investing a lot of money to control the virtual landscape so they get fucked like they have been previously. Buying influencers, paying for ads, getting bot networks set up, etc etc.
>>2537233That, and you also have orangeman, ICE, and friends escalating in their shenanigans, so that’s taking a bit of focus away as well.
>>2537222it's all shitty AI slop?
>>2536902well how do you pop open the brake line
>>2537223>it's psyopspf. lol. Reagan certainly wasn't in favor of tariffs.
>>2537122>not knowing Debs>>2537188>having to look up who Debs isthe absolute state of /leftypol/
>>2537103They are co-opting his memory. Vid highly related.
>>2537275>>2537269>reagan hated tariffs>>2537267<no he didn't look at this counter examplelol total lack of dialectical thinking. you look at this as a binary. is you is or is you aint protectionist. as if protectionism were this metaphysical category that someone just permanently is, rather than a strategy that can be employed or unemployed at will. protectionism is becoming popular again because delusional reformists think hitting the protectionism button is how you make america great again, or in a slightly more subtle school of thought, how you liberate the proletariat.
the bourgeoisie oscillate hypocritically between being free trade and protectionism. Marx and Engels noticed this:
<The wage laborer everywhere follows in the footsteps of the manufacturer; he is like the "gloomy care" of Horace, that sits behind the rider, and that he cannot shake off wherever he go. You cannot escape fate; in other words, you cannot escape the necessary consequences of your own actions. A system of production based upon the exploitation of wage labor, in which wealth increases in proportion to the number of laborers employed and exploited, such a system is bound to increase the class of wage laborers, that is to say, the class which is fated one day to destroy the system itself. In the meantime, there is no help for it: you must go on developing the capitalist system, you must accelerate the production, accumulation, and centralization of capitalist wealth, and, along with it, the production of a revolutionary class of laborers. Whether you try the Protectionist or the Free Trade will make no difference in the end, and hardly any in the length of the respite left to you until the day when that end will come. For long before that day will protection have become an unbearable shackle to any country aspiring, with a chance of success, to hold its own in the world market.>On the Question of Free Trade>Preface by Frederick Engels for the 1888 English edition pamphlet(note he's talking about the bourgeoisie in the most advanced countries oscillating between free trade and protectionism to give themselves more leverage in the class struggle, not about whether free trade or protectionism is somehow a one size fits all strategy that permanently benefits the (interclass) nation itself in the course of its development. Obviously peripheral countries just become resource extraction hubs when the imperialists impose free trade on them but don't allow them to develop sovereign industry.)
>>2537301This looks like parody holy fuck…
>>2537191Apparently Trump compared Operation Car Wash (which sent Lula to jail in 2018) to the “witch hunt” against him LMAO
>>2537316Well, what should be done about it
>>2537312Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?
are you defending trump, trying to lie that reagan dislike tariffs, using Marx?
Jesse, stop consuming the product.
>>2537102his stance on venezuela still puts him to the left of democrats tho
>>2537339you are clearly confused and didn't read the post
>>2537339i am saying it doesn't matter whether this or that figure used tariffs as a strategy in a given moment. Neither protectionism nor free trade are "proletarian." They are both strategies used by bourgeois dictatorship to gain leverage in the class struggle at any given moment. This is why Regan can be a "free trade" devotee one moment, and then level tariffs on Japan the next moment. Because it's not a metaphysical quality of a person, but a tool to be used at discretion by the bourgeoisie.
>>2537316>is somewhat under control They're still be killed and hunted down like dogs while being put under extreme starvation what the fuck do you mean by this
>>2537347no, I am not confused. and I find fairly stupid to defend anything trump does. I don't care if the bourgeoisie swing between protectionism and free trade. they do so because they are defending their class interests. for that reason, whatever trump is doing is repudiable and must be attacked from all flanks, free trade flank, if possible.
and because they are lying on what reagan did and said, they deserve public humiliation.
note aside, the US has never been anti-protectionist. the food sector has been always subsidized, even against the GATT and WTO norms.
>>2537353TO position against one or the other depends specifically on who is promoting any of the two options.
also, the US needs to be scrapped with competition. the monopolies inside the US that feeds on imperialism and feeds imperialism would lose its economic power if they faced real technical competition with China.
but burgers aren't ready for this conversation.
>ask anarchists about logistics and international proletariat
>respond by asking if I'd rather have hitler or anarchist in power
I hate these child fucker pieces of shit with all my heart they have no opinions based on theory, no sense of global scale, and no sense of the international proletariat, these people are the single most damaging movement for communists, because they attract people with stupid rhetoric and aesthetics
>>2537360you are stupid because you think i'm defending trump when i did nothing of the sort
> I don't care if the bourgeoisie swing between protectionism and free trade. they do so because they are defending their class interests.that is literally what I was saying. you are parroting my own argument back at me but still pretending I'm defending trump. you're dumb. literally illiterate. nothing in any of my posts defended trump.
zohran status?
>>2537367cucked and raped, sliwa thought in control
>>2536844>>2536849I have also never met a primitivist/kazcynski glazer/anti-civ type that is remotely knowledgeable in Ecology and related fields. These people like the idea of Nature™ in literature and philosophy but don't even know the common native plants in their region and definitely couldn't name major USNVC communities in there area. It's more about some randian notion of being the only intelligent individual in a world full of sheeple NPCs than actually engaging with and learning about the environment around them in any meaningful way as far as I can tell. random hobbyists like birders and inatters have done more for conservation than the entire anti-civ movement has and ever will.
>>2537360>the US has never been anti-protectionist.Right now the US is protectionist when it comes to itself and free trade when it comes to everyone else. this is why they're trying to put Machado in power in Venezuela, who promises to privatize the oil and sell it at discount to foreign (American) corporations. This is what was meant by free trade and protectionism are both tools used by the bourgeoisie. But if you look at 1970-2020, when free trade orthodoxy was dominant, America was also free trade when it came to itself. That is why it voluntarily deindustrialized and outsourced its jobs. It wanted the benefits of currency hegemony, which requires a nation to export more currency than it imports commodities. Now that hegemony is being challenged, so the USA is returning to the earlier imperial paradigm of "protectionism for me, gunboat diplomacy and free markets for thee"
>>2537367Having to apologize for being brown to zionist jews
>>2537365you did once you made fun of my reply, saying that reagan never liked protectionism.
>>2537275trump can't even define
how China is doing "unfair trading practices". as anon posted:
>>2536948 China did a better job with their own rules.
>>2537454>you did once you made fun of my reply, saying that reagan never liked protectionism.I never said "Reagan never liked productionism" and even if had did said that (again, I didn't), that is not defense of Trump. You are literally illiterate. My first reply to you was here:
>>2537312I was making fun of the argument you and other anon were having. I was saying it is false dichotomy to say reagan was "pro" or "anti" tariff. clearly he was against them in some cases, and for them in other cases, depending on what they would achieve for the American bourgeoisie. Same with Trump. This is not a defense of either of them. You are just reading that into my post and getting upset. You then paraphrased my own conclusions back at me and pretended that is what you were saying all along. You can literally scroll up and read the conversation again and witness you hurting yourself in confusion.
>>2537466"wtf…. you mean the only reason i'm not getting food stamps is because illseagull miggerants are getting free gender surgery and health care? this makes me very angry because i'm retarded…" - at least 50% of americans right now
>>2537466It's kind of hilarious in a mundane way how shamelessly partisan our current government is
>>2537468I'd bump it down to 30-25% tbh, also those people are basically living breathing arguements for "authoritarian measures". Everything the CPC does the falun gong should be done to the falun maga simple as.
>>2537489That was pretty funny actually.
>>2537491I judge him by his holocaust denial. That's easier
>>2537489>"shi maybe">other women just laughsW grandmas
>>2537497Considering we have a Podcaster Occupied Government I would be extremely unsurprised if "gun girl" gets an official cabinet position within the next couple of years
>“Since siding with Barack Obama twice, Iowa has become a stronghold for Mr. Trump. Yet perhaps no state has struggled more with his economic policies. During the first quarter of 2025, Iowa’s GDP dropped by 6.1 percent, more than any other state aside from neighboring Nebraska.”
farmer moment lol
>>2537498Office of waste management
>>2537466>democratsboth floors owned by rethuglicans.
>>2537529yeah they won the cannibalistic struggle between the two bourgeois parties and now they get to scapegoat the losers. didn't you get the memo?
kill kill kill kill kill killl killllllllll
>US AUTO PLANTS JUST WEEKS AWAY FROM SHUTDOWNS DUE TO CHIP SHORTAGES, LOBBY GROUP WARNS
>>2537540Good, fuck Found on Road Dead and fuck Genital Mothers
>>2537540I see it when I believe it. I heard the same shit when Trump ordered his first big tariff wave after his inauguration.
>>2537489Evelyn Normielib
>>2537544Didn't they do that already? I swear down i read that Argentinia is the biggest beef producer and exporter in the Americas.
And that has to be at least a decade ago.
>>2537561You’re confusing argentina for brazil
>>2537544A friend to all is a friend to none.
>>2537546whats even more cringe is that there is a high chance these posters are not even white or american
>>2537545the US has it easier, by implementing some licenses to specific imports, but that's a price burden (licenses are not cheap) on consumers.
I was looking at (US) Amazon some stuff I bought before trump started the tariff wars against the world, and now months later, and some stuff, like a laptop now costs 50% more. Tvs, some appliances, etc. far from a lie, his game is creating an ordeal internally, with no end in sight.
>>2537569Foreigners need to get the hell out of America with their raycism, LIVE LAUGH LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT
>>2537563>You’re confusing argentina for brazilah, thanks.
>>2537546>>2537569What makes you both so sure? Also
>trump would thinks they are all losersWay to subtly glaze trump there.
>>2537586>if you don't say orange man bad every post that must mean you secretly think orange man goodno, anon was clearly making fun of /pol/cels for being giant simps for orange senpai who does not even notice them.
>>2537323i think the imperial ruling class wants trump doing aggressive, illegal, over the top stuff. they're losing in the status quo so they want a bull in the china shop to try to shake things up and change the trajectory. they desperately want to overthrow Venezuela and any other independent government in LatAm to loot the oil wealth and re-assert slipping dominance. They want illegal and aggressive sanctions and tarrifs (used as just another form of political sanction) around the world to try to crush other economies and force conformity with US foreign and economic policy, no matter how contrary to their previous free market/trade rhetoric. The old way doesn't work anymore and they need a rogue actor to knock over the chess board to change the game.
Then, when some of these crazy moves "work" they will pocket the benefit, but when any of them fail or backfire, they can later disavow them and say that wasn't really "us". That wasn't America, it was just crazy Trump, the wild card outsider doing his own thing, so don't hold it against us.
>>2537497God horse girls look like shit
Do you think EBT ending on November 1 will finally radicalize people or are People of Benefits permanent lumpens
>>2537643Look at all of the POC and women lol.
>>2537619Is he cool or no?
>>2537643One of the only two polcels I've had the misfortune of knowing irl was your archetypal nazi hapa, this was around the same time as this as well
>>2537276I know who the hell Debs is lmao, literally anyone who has any basic knowledge on the history of socialism in the US does. I just had no idea of this particular foundation made in his name because I had never heard of it until today, when that anon earlier posted that Bernie and AOC was visiting them and that the former was getting an award from them.
>>2537323With Venezuela, I'm honestly not too surprised since the main role of the media here is to manufacture consent for capitalism and US hegemony after all, and with all the signs pointing towards a regime change operation against a vocal US adversary, of course the mainstream media; both legacy and new, is gonna be on-board. Especially in this era where they're so terrified of Trump making another example out of one of them for speaking against him or one of his decisions that they won't even say that a video of him dropping gallons of literal shit onto people protesting against him is exactly that.
>>2537636I love how this guy can summarize an entire political trend in one image.
America has shifted so hard to the right now people with nazi tattoos run as Democrats and get support
>>2537619Can't be as bad as any DSA candidate bringing people into the Democratic Party calling themselves KKKracker Socialists or something like that, but the veteran quote does raise an eyebrow. Does he denounce the military?
Farm Crisis: What They're Not Telling You
https://youtu.be/xon9A5_4tQw>>2537619>a veteranok but was he a blackwater merc
>>2537651if only they knew CBP spends most of their time buying drugs from and selling guns to cartels at the border, in between their bouts of human trafficking and rape, only occasionally stopping to detain mothers and children running away from the people they sell guns to
>>2535954https://voca.ro/14ZTxB9q5v9ffuck you fuck you fuck you dfuck you fuck you fduck you
>>2537489Sad the ancient lib whitelady has bigger balls than any breadtuber or left podcaster when it comes to smoking on Charlie Kirk.
>>2537674hell yes brother, do not delete
>>2537674great voice terrible album
>>2537619Average Afro-Amerikkkan dog fully assimilated, complicit in and supportive of imperialism who only wants a greater share of super-profits for the Amerikkkan herrenvolk. Unlimited genocide on the first-world labor aristocracy, including the Afro-Yankee oppressors.
>>2537701Are you a Hasan cultist angry over your nazoid party and e-celebs being called out
>Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, said on CBS’s “Face the Nation” earlier that President Trump could brief senators on possible military operations against Venezuela and Colombia to combat drug trafficking.
>Graham, a vocal defense hawk, said he spoke with the president yesterday about a briefing, which could come after the president returns from his trip to Asia. “There will be a congressional briefing about a potential expanding from the sea to the land,” the senator added.
we need to turn this foreign war into a civil war
>>2537619Another Proud Veteran Socialist
Tbf though if he's a non combat veteran I care a lot less, I say let this one ride. Anywhere to read up on his policies?
there's some legitimately good theory discussions on this website but i never have time to read them because i'm always lurking in this thread reading memes and headlines and bickering
>>2537744>and wants to go to war with Chynah as soon as possible.Platler wants to go to war with China?!?! I thought it couldn't get any worse with that dude. Source?
>>2537741seriously just stop and go to other threads, you will miss NOTHING.
>>2537674Amazing
now do this one next
>Former US Sen. Kyrsten Sinema lobbies for data center developer at Chandler AZ Plan Commission. Says she's working "hand in glove" w Trump Admin & warns city to embrace DCs or face federal intervention. City Council vote on Sinema's DC scheduled for Nov. 13.
>>2537747Read between the lines on his own goddamn campaign page
https://www.grahamforsenate.com/platformShipbuilding gap, with who?
https://www.rand.org/pubs/commentary/2025/05/why-the-united-states-south-korea-and-japan-must-cooperate.htmlAnd what're they really looking at? It's halfway down the page.
>Allied Joint Production?
>Japan and South Korea have begun aligning their foreign investment screening mechanisms with the United States to protect critical defense industries. These are the building blocks of a genuine allied industrial strategy, and the three countries could reap mutual gains in both commercial and national security contracts by working together to revitalize the U.S. shipbuilding industry. South Korea's shipyards, including Hyundai Heavy Industries and Hanwha Ocean, have efficient mass production techniques that allow for the rapid delivery of high-quality warships, with expertise in modular construction and advanced ship design. Japan's shipyards, such as Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, also possess world-class expertise in naval engineering and systems integration which allow them to build some of the most advanced destroyers and submarines in the world. >>2537750On the military
>U.S. politicians, weapons executives, and Pentagon generals are steering the world directly toward a catastrophic and unprecedented conflict. As a veteran, I know the real truth: these forever wars have nothing to do with defense, or “protecting democracy”— they are part of a brutal business. Working class kids die, and the tiny ruling minority profits. We must demand an immediate end to this madness. We will fight to slash the Pentagon budget by 90%. A new era of peace must replace the dangerous doctrine of preparation for “major power conflict”. The United States must dismantle its sprawling network of 800+ military bases throughout the globe, and guarantee job training and well-paid employment with union representation within a People’s Corps for all veterans. Cold War-era alliances and tools for military domination such as NATO, the CIA and AFRICOM, must be dissolved immediately. Martin Luther King Jr. warned us nearly 60 years ago – the bombs this government sends abroad are “exploding at home.” Ohioans are all too familiar. The approximately $1 trillion that the U.S. taxpayers spend every year on war should instead be spent to address the dire crises facing working people—on healthcare, housing, and ending poverty. This means cutting all aid to the racist, genocidal state of Israel and lifting the cruel, deadly sanctions that strangle ordinary people in nations like Cuba, Venezuela and Iran. Our new foreign policy will reject forever wars and embrace global cooperation to address the true threats to humanity: climate change, pandemics, and poverty. We will share resources and technology, not deploy bombs and sanctions. The choice is between endless war for profit or a future of peace and shared prosperity. We choose peace.On capitalism
>This new vision is critical for Ohio, a state hard-hit by decades of deindustrialization enabled by the capitalist greed of both Democrat and Republican parties. We will rebuild our communities through a socialist industrial policy that puts working families first and corporate profits last. This will put Ohio’s proud union labor back to work at a living wage, manufacturing the renewable energy systems, transit and housing materials needed to slash emissions and rebuild America.Ohio workers will be integral in powering our push for 20 million union jobs nationwide, restoring manufacturing to its historic peak. The rapid rise of Artificial Intelligence, which could displace a third of workers by 2030, should not mean layoffs and exploitation. Under public ownership and democratic control, technological progress can be harnessed to shorten the workweek and improve our lives, finally creating an economy that works for the many, not the few.You don't have to lib out because his short ad for the reactionary masses doesn't have the buzzwords you're searching for
>>2537744Do you think Lenin and Mao had this same kind of disdain for military veterans? Because realistically those people are an incredibly important for training and disciplining your army. Why is leftypol so hostile to former soldiers?
>>2537759Was east germany’s army built by the Wehrmacht idiot?
>>2537759I think it really depends on whether the soldiers earnestly believe in putting the working class first and foremost and are willing to become revolutionaries. It's nuanced. You can't just take any reactionary mass killer there because you're desperate for fighters
>>2537694What the fuck is the song "Communist Daughter" about again? I always assumed it a metaphor for a slut (she "shares" her body with men like communism shares resources).
Non-burger, do you guys think if trump invaded vuvuzela, they would be able to manufacture consent hard enough to get a good portion of americans to support it like iraq? lets say 40% to 50% of the population.
>>2537767i don't really care for analyzing obtuse lyrics anymore, but the nerds at genius do line by line commentary if you're interested in that kind of thing
https://genius.com/1003945 >>2537770the war supporters would be exclusively maga people and a handful of media class ghouls
>>2537770burger polls always show burger support for latest war monger psy op and then burgers feel bad and no longer support war after they lose and claim to always have been against it despite doing nothing to stop it. i imagine this one will be no different
>>2537759the role soldiers play in the revolution will become clearer when they get wrapped up losing a foreign war in venezuela, which hopefully ends up in a wider global conflict
it plays to our advantage that the leadership of the american military is completely insulated from the rank-and-file with promotions being a popularity contest rather than merit based, ideal recruiting grounds for a workers and soldiers party like the bolsheviks
>>2537770a full scale invasion, which the americans aren't ready for at the moment would be very unpopular. I'd say 20% max supporting it
>>2537774they go after just muh billy n airs because they know that if they went after milly n airs, small biz owners, pigs and troops, 90% of burger reichlings would call for their immediate execution
>>2537779>the role soldiers play in the revolution will become clearer when they get wrapped up losing a foreign war in venezuelahow many more vietnams do burgers need to lose before they realize they're the baddies.
how many more millions of third worlders need to be killed in massively asymmetrical wars of aggression so that burger troops in the imperial core can have enough character growth to attack their own ruling class?
>>2537764Soldiers aren't in charge of policy so I kinda don't care about their nuanced views on Marxism or Imperialism. Use them to train your forces and then execute or purge them if really necessary. Worked for Stalin and Mao.
>>2537763Doesn't matter. Soldiers are a resource.
>>2537779Indeed but currently the officer corps are much more "liberal" than the rank and file which is a problem for us. The average American soldier is a lumpenprole that just wants excitement. Mao disagreed with Marx on the idea lumpens couldn't be used to advance the revolution, so we'll see I guess. When the treats stop flowing to the military families and Venezuelans start sending our boys back in caskets Mao might be proven right(again).
>>2537774>imagei'm sorry youre not nazdemsocgang
>>2537774Again. You are libbing out because he made a short ad that is easy for the masses to agree with and get behind. He did not do holocaust denial like Mamdani agreeing with zionazis on the evils of KHÄMAS, and he actually is not afraid to call himself a socialist, with direct mentions in his program of how he will implement socialist.
>>2537782They’re literally just assuming if it happens enough times we’ll have something like the Carnation Revolution which wasn’t even good in the end anyway
>>2537783>They are just following orders American soldiers are not even drafted.
>>2537783>I kinda don't care about their nuanced views And I don't care about your views on soldiers because having proud mass killers and rapists on your side is just asking for trouble.
This guy wants us to like the American military so bad. Retard
>>2537778we're not living in 2002 anymore
>>2537783>Indeed but currently the officer corps are much more "liberal" than the rank and filethat is to say, elitist. they're WW1 French general-tier detached from the lives of the men they command. this contention plays in our favor
>The average American soldier is a lumpenprole that just wants excitement.that's every army before they experience total war. let the Americans start a global conflict, lose a couple million men with outdated tactics and a restarted draft, and we'll see if the army has recalculated which party they want to be represented with
>>2537794in 1950 burgers were supporting a foreign war of aggression against a country that didn't attack them: Korea
in 1965 burgers were supporting a foreign war of aggression against a country that didn't attack them: Vietnam
in 2002 burgers were supporting a foreign war of aggression against a country that didn't attack them: Iraq
in 2025, you say "it's not 2002" anymore but it wasn't 2002 in 1950 or 1965 either. Burgers generally support wars of aggression against countries that didn't attack them as long as the opinion makers and cult leaders spend a few months demonizing the enemy in advance. burgers should prove me wrong before claiming they have changed. Just earlier this year burgers helped Israel attack Iran. Burgers do lots of proxy wars, coups, and assassinations as well.
>>2537800>lose a couple million men with outdated tactics and a restarted draft,ok those are much different material conditions than the ones that exist right now. when we assess the character of burger troops, it is based on current conditions, not hypothetical future conditions.
>>2537807bro there was widespread protests against some of those wars
>>2537680left podcaster live from breadtube bucks, if they say something like that, they'd lose the breadcrumbs.
>>2537778>went on to claim total unconditional support for overthrowing muh dick tater sad'em hoosane It wasn't like that. It was more divided. A majority of the Democrats in the House voted against the war.
>>2537787I never said they're just following orders. They should be held accountable for their crimes. But the fact Graham Platner or this other guy were in the military is not itself disqualifying. If you find crimes they participated in then send them to the firing squad tbh. My only point is don't discount the value of trained military personnel if you're actually serious about a revolution.
>>2537789>I don't careNo one asked, you have no power and never will. Get over yourself. The plague of self-obsessed narcissists infesting the American Left must be exterminated.
>>2537800>that's every army before they experience total war. let the Americans start a global conflict, lose a couple million men with outdated tactics and a restarted draft, and we'll see if the army has recalculated which party they want to be represented withI think that's all the more reason military vets that can inspire the trust of rank and file would be useful to us during this incoming conflict. People that have the experience to lead these soldiers and convince them to defect. You aren't gonna get that with armchair twitter socialists that just want to virtue signal while demonizing the same folks you're trying to bring into the fold.
tbh I don't even like soldiers or the military, but it's not really arguable that we need them and we aren't gonna get that kind of experience or technical knowledge of how the US military works from anyone else.
>>2537816>No one askedYou did though. You love child rapists and it is important to acknowledge that
>>2537756>I will work tirelessly to rebuild the American militaryCurious 🤔
>>2537811with multipolarity and war on the horizon that seems to be the direction we're taking so why not plan for the future, it's not like revolution is exactly possible in this present moment
>>2537812I can only think of vietnam, but it was because more american soldier were dying, in the other wars the majority of americans either supported or stayed in their homes watching capeshit, anime and eating burger.
>>2537820>You love child rapistswhat?
>>2537824What is there not to understand? You want child rapists for your "socialist" vanguard military.
>>2537826you're quoting a post where I said "prosecute them for their crimes" and your response is "you support child rapists" yeah I'm not humoring you anymore felix.
>>2537816Another thing unmentioned is how most of the time these soldiers have families back home, part of a constituent, we can capture a lot of support by being the 'anti-war' party in a country full of american ultranationalists
>>2537812>widespread protests"widespread" peaceful protests don't stop wars, but they weren't even widespread. they were waged by a vocal minority who were drowned out by the silent majority of americans who would gladly run over said protesters on the way to work. the silent majority of americans who turned on the news and believed the lies about weapons of mass destruction. the silent majority of americans who don't know what proletarian or bourgeois mean, all they know is that america is a democracy, and when the news says someone is a dictator, that means america has a right to destroy their country.
>>2537830>le silent majorityhi richard
>>2537828Are you trouble keeping up with what I told you before and how you responded to that
>And I don't care about your views on soldiers because having proud mass killers and rapists on your side is just asking for trouble.>No one asked, you have no power and never will. Get over yourself. Try to be less of a child rape apologist please
>>2537836ok well i reiterate we don't live in 2002 anymore
>>2537836iraq war had the largest anti-war protests in history though
>>2537839And I will reiterate that Americans believed the lies leading up to every foreign war of aggression against countries that didn't attack us. So why wouldn't they believe it this time? Burgers have to prove they're different this time. I don't have to believe them with zero proof.
>>2537845>>2537836You guys say "Americans are ready to believe any lie for any foreign war" but the media should be given more responsibility for this. The whole campaign of manufacturing consent for the Iraq war was not secret. Americans did not instantly support the war. They had to spend months leading up to it trying to "convince" people that Iraq was a threat to the world, and all 3 major news networks were totally on board with it. Individual soldiers are not responsible for the Iraq war. Political and media leadership are responsible. The war crimes of Iraq and Afghanistan should be treated as crimes of the bourgeois and not just crimes of individual military members. They should be brought up again and again any time people start talking about war. Instead of calling soldiers "baby killers" we should be calling Bush and Obama baby killers and punishing them accordingly to dissuade future conflicts. Demonizing soldiers does nothing to prevent war tbh, since they aren't the ones making the call.
>>2537836so what's the justification this time for venezuela? nobodies buying that shit, it was illegal back then and its gonna be even more illegal now. elite society will of course love and support it with their freedom fries shit but that's no indication of the median voter
As an ex Muslim, I honestly don’t get why western liberals and leftist give Islam a free pass
As an ex Muslim, it genuinely blows my mind how much liberals and leftist defend Islam. I just don’t get it. You’ll call out Christianity nonstop for being sexist, homophobic, or outdated and you’re right to do that but when it comes to Islam, suddenly everyone goes silent or starts making excuses. Why?
Islam is way more extreme than Christianity in so many ways. When Afghanistan bans women from school or stops them from leaving the house without a man, that’s not “culture,” that’s Islam. When Iran forces women to wear hijabs and punishes them for taking it off that’s Islam. But no one says it out loud.
Even the hijab itself it was originally meant to separate “free” women from slaves. And now people call it empowering? How can something rooted in control and inequality suddenly become a symbol of freedom?
When countries like Pakistan, Iraq, or Somalia fight against banning child marriage, the reasoning behind it comes straight from Islamic teachings. But no one points that out. If Christianity was behind something like that, liberals would tear it apart and rightfully so.
So why does Islam get a free pass? Why does anyone who criticizes its bigoted or oppressive parts immediately get labeled an “Islamophobe”?
I’m not saying this out of hate. I grew up Muslim, I know what’s in those teachings. I’ve seen how deeply it shapes societies. I just don’t understand how people who claim to stand for women’s rights, freedom, and equality can ignore what Islam clearly says and does.
>>2537844
>A March 2003 Gallup poll conducted during the first few days of the war showed that 5% of the population had protested or made a public opposition against the war compared to 21% who attended a rally or made a public display to support the war.
>Seven months prior to the September 11 attacks a Gallup poll showed that 52% would favor an invasion of Iraq
>Surveys conducted after the attacks but before 2002 showed that many Americans were fearful of future acts of terrorism, favored military action against Sadaam Hussein and other terrorists, and expressed a high level of trust in the federal government. Despite public concern for the consequences of war the public's support remained very high. Original concerns included, 55 percent of Americans fearing that the war would last too long, 44 percent taking into consideration a mass number of casualties, 62 percent of the public being convinced that this would increase short-term terrorism domestically, 76 felt there would be a higher risk of domestic bioterrorism, and 35 believed that the draft would need to be reinstated. At the same time 40 percent of the American public was against having protests because they believed it would undermine the success abroad. Additionally, 55 percent supported the war even without support from the UN.
>According to the CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll, conducted on October 3–6, 2002, 53% of Americans said they favor invading Iraq with U.S. ground troops in an attempt to remove Saddam Hussein from power.
<March of 2023 marked the 20-year anniversary of the U.S. invasion of Iraq. Public support for the lengthy war significantly decreased over the past two decades. As of 2023, 36 percent of Americans believe the US was right to invade Iraq in 2003, while 61 percent believe it was the wrong decision.again, burgers only oppose war after they lose. the key is to oppose war before it starts. and not by muh protesting but by converting the imperialist war into a civil war, as lenin did.
By the way protests against the iraq war resulted in only in about 1700 arrests and 0 deaths. not exactly gonna change the government's mind is it/
>>2537855>As a (insert minority)Sure bud
>>2537861Muslims are not a minority. There are 2 billion in the world
why are people saying the us lost the iraq war? that's crazy cope. at worst you can call it a pyrrhic victory
>>2537862the ex muslim was specifically talking to leftists in the west where they're a minority
>>2537855i don't give islam a pass but i primarily attack christians because i am forced to live in a christian country
>>2537858>As of 2023, 36 percent of Americans believe the US was right to invade Iraq in 2003, while 61 percent believe it was the wrong decision.how's that even possible.
ah, liberal media was mad about it, then they ignored it.
>>2537866I don't see why that matters. Do leftist and liberals in the west only focus on their own country? No. The entire world matters. There are 2 billion Muslims across the world. It's beliefs and adherence impact all of these places. Unless you are saying leftist and liberals in the world believe "it's not happening near me so I don't care". I don't believe that is fully the case since for example they usually care about Palestine which is very far away
>>2537867Okay this guy actually fits this "it's not happening near me so I don't care"
>>2537872i don't talk about islam as much because it's not actionable. there's nothing i can do about what people in another country do unless you suggest i support us sanctions or military invasion
>>2537876What do you believe you can impact?
>>2537880Western leftist and liberals are in america
>>2537882Did Islam make your brain smooth too? Cuz you ain't making no sense bibi
>>2537878i don't know. i'm mostly involved in politics to vent about shit. i think i could impact things in the us if the left were organized and disciplined but that will never happen
>>2537761They already did.
>>2537879can't believe brendan frasier gained 200 lbs and wore an oxygen mask to play senator holden bloodfeast
>>2537858>again, burgers only oppose war after they lose. the key is to oppose war before it starts. and not by muh protesting but by converting the imperialist war into a civil war, as lenin did.russians only really went hard against WWI after they were getting massacred in the eastern front?
Do you think Lenin would have had nearly that much success recruiting people if there weren't millions of wounded, dead, and prisoners even before 1917?
>>2537836no that's pro-war revisionist history
there was huge opposition to the war(s) at the time in fact the more right wing burgers wouldn't shut up about the lib protests, and voting for the war used to be a purity test used by dems against the right wing half of the party
>>2537872What do you expect western leftists to do about Islam?
They're mostly not Muslims and don't support or advocate Islam. And whenever they're expected to "denounce" Islam it's usually as a trojan horse for imperialism, which they will mostly reject. Western governments and societies are not going to change Islam. They're just going to use complaints about it to expand capitalism and imperialism.
>>2537899you're the one trying to pass off "i will work my ass off to expand the navy for unspecified reasons" as no big deal
>>2537749>I will work tirelessly to rebuild the American military.it's precisely what's wrong with the US. a military bill that doesn't end, a forever world-police that never stops sucking bone-dry the pockets of the tax payers.
>>2537855As an ex-muslim:
Critical support to Islam in its holy jihad against Western Imperialism and specifically the Zionist Entity.
>>2537815>A majority of the Democrats in the House voted against the war.
< Of 209 House Democrats in Congress, 126 (60.29%) voted against the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002, although 29 of 50 Democrats in the Senate (58%) voted in favor.wow what stunning opposition to imperialism by lesser evil incorporated
>>2537920Normal Adult Marxist type mf is the pinned comment and is getting cooked alive
>>2537920>mandatory viewing>spoiled burritono
>>2537920Hasan trying to say that not wanting Platner to be a representative for the American Left was a rejection of "rehabilitative justice" proves that he's just a pro-Democrat sophist.
>>2537920the cooked you chuds that simp for that obvious glowy
>>2537920All this freaking out about a veteran trying to align himself on the right side of class politics proves how retarded the online left is.
Tirelessly working to rebuild the American military but in a woke way
>>2537902he said some vague bullshit about "rebuilding the military" and you jump to war with China. That's on you.
You retards assume a looot of shit by "reading between the lines" as if you're astute and not paranoid.
You even assume I "uncritically support" platner or whatever the fuck, when it's retarded to ever uncritically support anything, because that's what normal people do.
NO ONE in their right minds, wants to go to war with China right now. That conversation walked out the door almost a year ago. The USA MIC has almost explicitly admitted to dropping the Pacific as a priority because China has everything on lock.
You and your ilk on this shitty shut-in autistic website are paranoid ultra-left retards who larp in their own unemployed heads.
We're probably gonna do social democracy like every other country in the world, and we're probably NOT going to have a based civil war where we kill the nazis or whatever. pic-related is how everyone looks at you when you say your opinions outside of leftypol
Chapo's line on military leftists is the only correct one: "I don't support the troops because of what they've done, I support them because of what they're going to do."
People need to stop calling western soldiers "veterans". This is programmed into us in a way to hold them in high regard. There are better words to call them
>>2537945>stop playing dumb>entire argument hinges on paranoid "reading between the lines" that the interlocutor has to accept as givenThink you might be projecting there bud
>>2537943i'm gonna dismantle imperialism and atone for my war crimes by running as a democrat for senate and demanding unconditional support from the working class less than ten years after I worked for blackwater, while simultaneously talking about rebuilding the US military and overcoming the shipbuilding gap with China
>>2537943What are they going to do?
>>2537948if you search for shipbuilding gap online right now it's all articles from american mainstream media about the shipbuilding gap with china. similar "missile gap" was used during cold war to justify escalation against USSR
>>2537949buddy I think we just want to build boats like I think people like boats
>>2537952>missiles>shipsone of these things is not like the other. Schizo
>>2537935the online left does not want to win, they are comfortable in their current position and see no urgency in the situation. all they really want is to moralize and virtue signal.
>>2537957the online left wants a civil war where they get to kill people and anything else is
revisionism >>2537955the US's imperialist power is built on its naval supremacy, idiot. It's clear you lack any sort of literacy in media or you'd see the imperialist dogwhistles all over the place.
>>2537957>you dont want to heckin winif the war criminal beats the other war criminal in maine do we start winning? braindead goof
>>2537949WHAT THE FUCK DOES
UNCRITICAL SUPPORT MEAN DUDE YOU KEEP SAYING THAT
>>2537959>it's clear you're not a based schizo with a 6th sense you clearly lackIt's a purely economic thing. We literally don't make our own TRADE SHIPS anymore. You know? The most common type of ship? Not the warship? But the ones you use to TRADE with? That carry GOODS?
>>2537942NTA.
not a dengist but, I mean le war with China is liberal BS i can see Agent Kochinski-ites stanning this guy but not anyone with a normal Marxist understanding of shit like imperialism
>>2537968Good! Let China Cook!
>>2537962it means support without criticism. which is exactly what you demand. you demand no criticism of platner and you equate any criticism of platner with supporting his zionist opponent or a vague "not wanting to win." and you make sure to interpret his entire life as innocently as possible, from his 4 tours of duty, to his extremely recent stint as a mercenary to his desire for power in the US government, to his pledge to rebuild the US military to his petty bourgeois class position as a small business owner. Every single one of these things must not be criticized or notice or else I want his senile zionst opponent to win. to hell with her too.
Dude if Platner had a "Can we just let China cook, bro?" then I would actually give my uncritical support
>>2537964smartest DSSA member
>>2537978how many Georgian bystanders were killed in Stalins bank robbery
>>2537971you are fucking retarded and you clearly don't read. Let me screenshot my OWN WORDS from the archives and show you how fucking aggro and smooth brained you really are.
Here is a screenshot of my actual take on platner that you all assume and don't actually read because your brains are mush
>>2537978gem
HWNBAS (He will never be a socialist)
>>2537979Georgians aren't real people. Next.
>>2537972>Dude if Platner had a "Can we just let China cook, bro?" then I would actually give my uncritical supportSenator Blackwater McNazi would rather cook China instead.
>>2537980So youre berniecrat healthcare accelerationist
>>2537985as opposed to…..?
>>2537958No, I actually want you to get every Platner and Mamdani that is on the pipeline. Like no really.
The change will come form external factors. Your PLatners and AOCs and Bernies and Warrens don't set the agenda anyway. It doesn't matter if you are doing rainbow Nazism by then, you will run head first into atrocious wars, followed by economic collapse when the bills catch up to all the new military spending necessary.
So I don't care, you are going to get fucked either way, even if by then you are all doing Nazism and Rainbow Nazism with a bow.
And do not, for a moment think, that socdems will save you. Nono friend, you made a liberal world and they will eat you alive. Expect another decade of 2000s style triumphalist bullshit and then… well then you will get the eastern bloc treatment by all the other liberal powers until they are sure, really sure, there will never be an US of A ever again.
And the socdems will be nothing but puppets of the foreign winners of the cold war, who will consent to every little bit.
>>2537987a normal marxist adult
>>2537969We're thinking the same thing, no? High-powered RF DEW weapon that mission-killed both systems, and since they were flying, they both crashed.
>>2537989>schizo projections of your own personal desires unto an account of assumed predictive historymhm yeah sure
>>2537965>not a dengistopinion discarded (but you are actually right)
>>2537989Mamdani still might be good he isn't as radical as he was when he was farther from power
But he still make the porkies squeal either way having him is no loss, planter was an unapologetic agent of empire where as mamdani still gets the benefit of the count from me
>>2537964>rebuilding the military via bridging the ship-building gap>HE'S TALKING ABOUT TRADE SHIPS GUYS TRAAAAAAAADE!!!!!Fucking retard stop moving the goalposts
>>2537942>pic-related is how everyone looks at you when you say your opinions outside of leftypol<Everyone thinks you're WEIRD anon you're so WEIRD! WEIRD WEIRD WEIRD stop reading between the lines SCHIZO!!The absolute state of namefags in this thread
>>2537980>OBVIOUSLY he's bad guys. But he's the DSA platform! Why not???>STOP making stuff about him guys! He's NOT THAT EVIL!!! HE WOULD NEVER SAY WE SHOULD BUILD UP THE MILITARY!! I don't even have 2 say anything to this one
>>2537958Bro but platner though he worked for blackwater and was literally at abu garaib why him?
Old imperialist model of the world doesn't apply anymore, because China is the other pole in the multipolar world as of like… this year. So the American Empire is over. Like right now. Like… right now. It's done.
And this was achieved through economics. Through the power of literal Dengism. All yall saying you need to destroy america are behind the times.
>>2538004sorry buddy, it's decided. you have to support him because this is what normal adult americans want
>>2538007>old model of imperialism doesn't work>because… There are multiple imperialist countriesLOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
>>2538007ok but what if america's still a shithole and i'm still trapped in it
>>2538004again you guys are making this about platner specifically when what I'M making it about is the online left's fascination with doing literally nothing to help anyone and hoping for a civil war and calling that "communism"
>>2538011INTERESTING YOU WOULD ASK THAT. IT'S ALMOST AS IF YOU COULD USE SOME MILQUETOAST SOCIAL DEMOCRACY BUT I GUESS NOT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT COMMUNIST ENOUGH
>>2538010>believes China is imperialisttooootal fucking retard lmao completely disqualified yourself from here on out
>>2538012>hoping for a civil war and calling that "communism"lenin said you turn imperialist war into civil war. take it up with him.
>>2538015ok but what if i think a civil war is going to happen due to trump's actions, not mine or the left's
what if i think maga will not allow social democracy to happen
>>2538008> it's what normal adults wanthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_linehere ya go
>>2538004>platner worked for blackwaterI literally don't give a shit. If he does anything stupid, I'll shit on him. Putting him in the Senate
literally could not be worse than what we already have. Let the man cook
>>2538020>guy from over 100 years ago said this one specific thing that actually only worked for him alone (and then maybe china tbf), IMPLYING THAT HE HAD A CHOICE AND NOT THAT HE GOT LUCKYok I'll never question his almighty perfection, Lenin again, even though he corrected himself multiple times throughout his writings because that's what you do
>>2537987Platner never says, "The zionist entity must be destroyed." The DSA platform is social fascist. You are a social fascist. You say things "literally couldn't be worse," but things can always be worse. Your "see what happens" platner gambit is suicidal liberal acceleration that breaks with every Communist principle
>>2538027shutup felix and also kill yourself if you're not going to take your lithium.
>>2538023>>2538026>entryist lesser-evilism nonsense >no you dont understand bro you cant learn from lenin it ONLY WORKED ONCE (no twice whoopsie daisy :3) so OBVIOUSLY it will never work againKILL yourself you stupid faggot and stop calling yourself a marxist
I want the american equivalent of the MRC in both nyc and LA
The MINUTE there's a civil war and we start installing the CPUSA as the one party that commands the heights of our glorious republic, the first thing I'll do is come here and apologize. But that won't happen. Because you're all fucking autistic nerd losers living in 1906 with no friends
There were 2,000 active bolshevik party members in Petrograd in February 1917, by the summer it would climb empire wide to 200,000
>>2538048>thing from 100 years ago and a completely different place (literally 'material conditions')mhm yup gotcha!
>>2538036Argument against what? What am I supposed to dissect here? Your smarmy DESTRUCTION of Lenin's revolutionary defeatism? Man, I've got a lot to engage with! It's really succinct and coherent, it WAS 100 years ago, I hadn't thought of that!
You deserve to be treated like the spastic you are you stupid attention whoring namefag, you have a big red sign painted on your chest that says "I AM INCAPABLE OF ARGUMENT. DEBATE ME."
>>2538044>you're all autistic and lame!Man you really showed those meanie meanie gommunists on leftypol! That argument DESTROYED them!
>>2538050does history not rhyme?
>>2538051>crashes out but Leninistlymhm
>>253805
Ur right I need to be super nonchalant and call you a loser autist instead to avoid crashing out my b jit that wasn't rlly Normal of me
>US military personnel may lose their pay by Nov. 15 if the shutdown continues — Treasury Secretary, Bessent.
>>2538071dems will capitulate well beforehand
>>2538015>Normal adult marxist<socdemlmao
>>2538071Comrades, the fate of the nation demands your strongest wishcasting. Do not let it down.
I changed my mind on the inevitability of Canada's annexation, I think the USA can forever hold the threat of doing so as leverage to get Canada focused on the Arctic shipping lane passages which is what the USA wants from Canada in the first place
>>2538088succdems summoning their ideal relateable working class candidate (a mercenary small business owner with a nazi tattoo)
>>2537770The vast majority of Americans would accept it without question just like they did Iraq and Afghanistan, which were based off even flimsier lies than Venezuela.
>>2538101>with a nazi tattooYou know, Adolf Platner is much more of a Nazi than most of the people wearing Nazi tattoos. Even the very vocal types who larp and play dress-up. The dude actually went on to do Nazi shit and have the time of his life. Platner went on to fulfill his desires of killing and oppressing millions of untermenschen for the greater glory of the only real humans. He killed them,tortured them, treated them as subhumans, conquered and pillaged their homes and had them relegated to service under his command. Then he went back to glow it up with the ambassador through Blackwater and then came back a hero and now a prospective Senator backed by damn near everyone left of Trump with any power.
Adolf Platner is much more of an actual Nazi than all of /pol/ and most of the IRL Nazis for that matter. He is a consummate Nazi who got to do all the things most Nazoids only fantasize about, in some hypothetical fascist reckoning.
It's just that, because Graham Platner did it for NATO, instead of outdated colonial race science, it is perfectly normal in the average NATOid's worldview.
Also it's pretty funny how "normal" adult "marxist" thinks everyone who attacks his insane national chauvinism is secretly Iron Felix.
>>2538183Now you are getting close to the truth, which is that NATO is just the continuation of the Third Reich and exists for the same purpose, and anyone who willingly serves NATO is functionally equivalent to a Nazi.
>>2538026>Normal Adult Marxist is pro imperialism and anti-Leninfigures
based platner wants to rebuild american military so it can spread communism internationally after america goes red
>>2537853the median voter won't lift a finger because the official narrative now will be le drug traffic
>>2537213What manfacturer is it? So I can never buy them
>>2535942Belgian? If I were half belgian I would have stayed there.
>>2535947>>2535972Rent free out of three, with some random nonsense on top.
>>2538026Bernie lost. I know shocking your dog hasn't helped gain favour by the masses but you gotta accept that
>>2538023>I literally don't give a shit.you finally went full me ne frego
congrats
>>2535903Friendly reminder that while the sacking of Rome by Visigoths in 410 CE was felt as an apocalyptic catastrophe by contemporaries, the actual final end of the [Western] Roman Empire 65 years later… was not even noticed by the majority of the people who had lived on its territories. They just thought they are having yet another normal emperor succesion crisis and some average barbarian uprisings. Then the crisis went on for generations, then centuries, then, when Charlemagne finally becames Emperor… turns out most people already forgot how to speak Latin and the Senate building is, somehow, a church now.
…I think that 9/11 hijackers were the "Visigoths" of the USAmerican empire.
>>2537922Something about liberals using the word oligarch pisses me off. A defanged and useless non-critique of capitalism.
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