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Why is leftypol not throwing massive support behind Mamdani?

No one believes he’s an actual socialist, however his victory will be the most important victory of the American left of the past 90 years. Why? Because it shows the Zionist Lobby has NO POWER compared to the power of the MASSES OF PEOPLE and we can defeat the satanic Zionist entity not with a violent revolution but simply with voting. Nobody believes Mamdani is a perfect candidate but that’s not the point.

So why aren’t we backing him en masse? His inevitable win will be the biggest blow to US-Zio imperialism in modern history.
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>>2554700
People did point out that Obama had alleged “communist” mentors though.

>>2554145
How do these fuckers define what a "Zionist" is?

>>2553656
Mamdani needs to ban metzitzah b'peh.

Zorhan is an imperialist capitalist, people like him should be buried alive as punishment.

this thread is the worst, i dont care if you think that every single burger on the planet is an imperialist, at least acknowledge the work has has done in propagandizing a different way of politics that isnt just bland progressivism.

>>2554895
What "different way of politics" exactly? He's doing exactly what Bernie was doing 10 years ago.

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>>2554558
Free bus ticket isnt class based politics

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>>2554895
Pushing bland progressivism as though it is socialism democratic socialism (as we all know the "horrors" of socialism and communism is to be regurgitated ad nauseum by these socdems so long as they are to remain in favor of the bourgeois establishment) does more harm to actual socialist and leftist movements. Couple this with the right-wing constantly reinforcing this lie as they wait gleefully for these socdem policies to fail (which they will due to being hamstrung by the system that the socdems work within and slavishly uphold) therefore insuring more repression to socialists.

>>2555053
it clearly benefit working class a lot more than the porkie class though, so yes it kinda is

>>2555075
Did the Nazi KdF program also help workers?
>>2555072
Indeed. Any policy proposed by a social-fascist has been done before and finds its greatest precedent in the playbook of imperialism and fascism.

Affordability is not class politics. Affordability is class collaboration politics. When Communists speak of class politics, we speak of the revolutionary overthrow of the bourgeoisie and the elimination of the exploiting classes, not everyone a bus ticket. This class collaboration is the essence of fascist "social" politics. Hence, all social-fascist proposals have their greatest precedence in imperialism and fascism.

The "free" bus ride proposal, for instance, is reminiscent of the Nazi Kraft durch Freude (KdF) program which provided KdF-Wochenkarte" (KdF Weekly Pass) or "KdF-Arbeiterfahrkarte" (KdF Worker Travel Pass)

The state grocery market proposal is reminiscent of the Apartheid Bantu Administration stores, or any company town store, which existed but to drive down the nominal wage by subsidizing the cost of reproducing labor power, thereby ensuring a pacified and stable workforce for the capitalists.

>>2549963
DeLeon proved correct.

>>2554145
Their story highlights are even more batshit.

>>2555555
the NUMBERS have SPOKEN


>>2555555
>>2555562
I’m starting to think “Zionist” means “anyone who doesn’t want to gun down Jews in the street” to these obvious glowies.

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A Red-Brown Alliance I can get behind


Democrats need to win a supermajority next year during midterms so they can change the Constitution so Mamdani can be POTUS.


>>2555587
Mamdani is not that brown tho, he even has pink fluffy cheeks

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Well I am happy about it, I’m an ML so I don’t agree with Zohran on a ton of things since he is a demsoc but I’m not stupid enough to call this a “Social-fascist” and fall into purity politics. I think that electing demsocs will grow class consciousness to the point that revolution will grow.

>>2560825
He’s literally a halal Obama.

>>2560825
correct take. larpers on this website really do not understand that the historical conditions that lead up to the Russian Revolution were similar attempts at moderate socialist reformism that ultimately failed and because this was organized in a big tent party during a notoriously reactionary corrupt regime in a backwards country made it possible to push the left further towards revolutionary organizing once it became clear that reformism was not even an option. you can't go from zero to revolution like people on this site seem to think but then again I get the distinct impression that most people on here were "radicalized" by ML grifters like Haz and BE

>>2560825
my thoughts exactly

>>2560825
Trvth nvke

>>2554936
This is the most heinous thing I’ve read all year.

>>2560825
if things don't go well, as there are macro forces of capitalist effects that are beyond his control as well as a large pro corporations liberal state house in which it will be hard to gather the votes to push certain policies, then he's going to be left holding the bag and then 'socialism' will be seen as a failure

>>2560916
that's where the revolutionary communist organizing is supposed to come in, which is also the whole point of what the DSA is doing. the contradictions need to continue to sharpen while simultaneously building up the subjective forces and broader class consciousness so that when the moment inevitably comes when reformism fails, we can point to the system that makes it impossible for people to live dignified lives and thwarts even moderate attempts to do so. communists need to be prepared to seize the momentum when the time comes; moderates like Zohran should be seen as nothing more than pawns to achieve our ultimate goal of seizing the bourgeois state by force.

>>2560876
I'm still cautiously optimistic, however the response is identical to the response following Obama's election.

>>2560930
>the contradictions need to continue to sharpen
Amerikkkans already have nationwide riots after riots and crises after crises and pogram after pogram so waiting is incorrect.
>while simultaneously building up the subjective forces and broader class consciousness so that when the moment inevitably comes when reformism fails, we can point to the system that makes it impossible for people to live dignified lives and thwarts even moderate attempts to do so.
reform always fails so there is no need to wait.
>communists need to be prepared to seize the momentum when the time comes;
They can just build army and do that now though
>moderates like Zohran should be seen as nothing more than pawns to achieve our ultimate goal of seizing the bourgeois state by force.
The pawn uses you.

Daily reminder that Mamdani's regime will be crushed if we don't cyberbully Yanks into supplying the succdem regime with institutional worker power. Don't let them forget that voting is only step 0.
For example, iirc the tax reforms need approval from state Dems. They have power to pull Mamdani rightward similarly to Standers and AOC. And the boog have capital they can withdraw.

1. I am not American
2. While western left parties can learn from his campaign, he is a democrat and will throw you under the bus in favor of the landlords

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>>2561146
Saying euroid socdems can learn from american socdems is tragic demonstration of the bankrupcy of democrat thinking. The only lesson to be learned is that all socdems must be eliminated.

Noooooooo

>>2555555
>>2555562
>>2560590
They’re going after Pope Leo too.

I swear this page is a parody.

>>2561147
>Father Gapon

>>2552247
ICE is federal law enforcement. They don't take orders from local or state politicians

>>2563999
So why are mayors kicking ICE out of their cities?

>>2551338
This TBH

The gift that keeps on giving!

Mamdani scares the right-wing. That's enough for me.

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>meets with Trump
>refuses to say Trump is a fascist
Sellout

>>2569162
If the enemy likes you, you’re not winning.

>>2569162
>>2569176
He failed le heckin purity test bros :(

>>2569162
They even held hands, beautiful bipartisanship, a mix of national and socialism you could say

>>2569220
I've seen this before

>>2569233
First as tragedy, then as farce.


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