Why is leftypol not throwing massive support behind Mamdani?
No one believes he’s an actual socialist, however his victory will be the most important victory of the American left of the past 90 years. Why? Because it shows the Zionist Lobby has NO POWER compared to the power of the MASSES OF PEOPLE and we can defeat the satanic Zionist entity not with a violent revolution but simply with voting. Nobody believes Mamdani is a perfect candidate but that’s not the point.
So why aren’t we backing him en masse? His inevitable win will be the biggest blow to US-Zio imperialism in modern history.
>So why aren’t we backing him en masse?
We arent a masse, there is like 100 regular posters on this site.
>Why is leftypol not throwing massive support behind Mamdani?
Lmao what? Leftypols opinions are irrelevant and dont matter or affect anything in the real world.
I hate when retards online say "i support something" as if them saying this actually matters or affects anything.
>>2539310Because electoralism doesn't matter, capitalist societies will degrade until the workers revolt, this is the process, it's unavoidable
I hope a thousand more planes crash into New York until every building is levelled.
I prefer him over platner
Who cares? He works for gentrifiers.
>>2539418
So why are billionaires against him?
>>2539418
Considering how much the establishment democrats hate him, there's got to be something to him.
>>2539310>communists need to waste their time on backing up electoralismdo you get paid to post this retardation or what
also
go to the USApol thread >>2539423It’s not about anything except stopping the Zio.
What is the mayor of new york going to do when the NYPD is loyal to Trump and the rest of the city officials are loyal to the mainline democrats?
I support Zohran wining so we can point and say "look - look at all the nothing electoralism gets you"
>>2539437props for being one of the few honest ones lol. anyway i doubt a single us mayor is going to stop the palestinian genocide
>>2539445Yeah worst we can get is nothing from him, and nothing would make an example. Win-win candidate really.
>>2539310>electoral politicslol, literally never.
Bernie's shtick stopped working because everyone knows he's a Dem bootlicker, so they rolled out this guy
>>2539474
Trump is probably gonna deport him. He's not going to be a success. They simply won't let him. We had the shot at social democracy with Sanders in 2016 and again in 2020. America's not doing that shit again.
because he is a suc dem who will ultimately disappoint. we have seen this movie before with obama
>>2539310I speak for myself but he is just male AOC.
>>2539310How many of us do you think live in New York, USA?
Retard.
i don't support him mainly because i'm canadian.
>>2539501>I speak for myself but he is just male AOC.Yeah. Very much. In fact, unlike Bernie, he explicitly identifies as a Democrat. At any rate, did you see him on this Flagrant podcast? I had never heard of this, but it's a popular bro comedy podcast. But there was this whole thing after the Democrats blew the election about "how do we reach deeeze keeeeeds" and history summoned forth this guy who does.
Leftypol has some anons with Zohran derangement syndrome. They think if Mamdani wins that will undermine their project of destroying the American empire on leftypol. Or if people vote for Mamdani that it'll steer them away from more radical alternatives. I think this is fairly delusional and childish. We're not even close to a revolutionary situation or even a pre-revolutionary or pre-pre-revolutionary situation, and a large number of his voters are just normies who like Mamdani because of his vibes, and because he can hang out, and because he's good at pushing "common sense" center-left ideas (in either 30-second Instagram or one/two-hour podcast versions) which are also popular with normies without talking down to them or making them feel stupid. And that is combining with the inevitable whipsaw tendency in American politics when voters for the party which just blows a general election gravitate towards "anti-establishment" types.
because i don't live in new york
Reminder that Entryism is actually running your own orgs and candidates and organizers into the liberal elections. Not just waiting for the liberal propaganda machine to proved you with the shittiest most obvious plants and casting a ballot. I honestly don't know how you resist feeling betrayed by Zohran or how you keep falling for whomever the Democrat PR wing elevates this week as a heel.
It was pretty much 100% over when he started backtracking on Palestine, that was the single redeeming factor other than flashy promises by a literal nobody. It was the only thing that countered what looked, like a massive Democrat (DSA) bait and switch. That he was running with an anti Zionist agenda which could not mix with the dems.
And then he dropped that.
And picked Bernie and Obama advisors.
But no, you waited until Mamdani apologized for ever hintign at anti-zionism and fully integrated into the Dem "progressives" along your favourite Zionist imperialist AOC and Bernie. And the baffling milieu of buffoons currently endorsing a literal Nazi "from the left"… which Zohran also endorses.
Then Zohran's going full liberal Zio jerking them off in Cct 7 and promising to megafund the combating of "antisemitism" and keeping Ms.ADL as his police chief…
I mean… like, when do you get off?
I mean fuck, that's like the bartender kicking you out. It's over mate, It's so fucking over.
What the fuck are you doing with your life, that got you here? Is it really important to you? Because if it is, you should see the signs of how much you are being taken advantage of.
And if *it isn't* that important, why on earth are you spending any effort in your life volunteering for this smiling pile of red flags? Leave it to the libs to canvas and volunteer their time for the next psyop in line, for self-absolution. You don't need it. You KNOW you ain't gonna get shit out of it.
"Lesser evil" or not, its out of your hands now. It's the mainstream libs and Zios who run the show now.
https://xcancel.com/zei_squirrel/status/1981198842314854439>>2539627nta but is this an American thing? I'm from a country in EU where being a volunteer for a politician rarely happens, maybe small scale local level. Not to the scale that Americans seem to summon (tens of?) thousands of volunteers for already well funded (and lobbied!) parties every presidential election, for example.
I may show, my grass-deprivation but it looks kind of cultish. Like… don't they have money, your politicians?
>>2539631i think it's just an anglosphere thing?
>>2539631Hard for me to say but I've heard it said sometimes. Mainly from Russians actually. Like I heard it said that Americans look like they're always trying to influence things in some particular direction, or they treat politics like they do a sport. One caveat though is that tens of thousands of people sounds like a lot but it's both exceptional and highly unusal for a local political campaign and it's also New York City which has a population of 8.5 million.
>>2539631It became more of a thing in the early 2000s when Obama used grassroots orgs to get elected.
>>2539310>A guy who wants to build public housing and make public transportation less shitty is the most socialist thing they're going to get, and probably not even that because he'll end up suffering electoral fraud or being murdered.Good luck to the anons living in the US, you need it.
>>2539660>It became more of a thing in the early 2000s when Obama used grassroots orgs to get elected.Ok so it's normal to do unpaid work for ultraliberal rich politicians, got it. Bizarre, to do charity for the rich and powerful.
I was quite surprised when Zohran's campaign expenses, at least some part of it I bet, like everywhere else there is a big wall of bureucracy obscuring much of the money flows. But I digress, the man apparently hit the cap of money he could spend on campaign, and had to ask people to stop donating at around $14m. (
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/05/nyregion/mamdani-donations-mayor-money.html)
And I'm looking at this stuff and man. Zohran has 14 million to spend. He can pay millions upon millions to PMC consultants and media companies
https://www.nyccfb.info/ftmsearch/Candidates/Expenditures?ec=2025&rt=can&cand=2899&stmt=&trans=FBut can't spare a single say, $600k~ payment to give every one of the 60k volunteers a thousand bucks for their efforts.
Ah but I know, He can't do that because of the tight regulations and bureaucracy with making all those people employees and whatnot. They understand, they are just doing it for the love of the game, I'm sure. And that only makes it weirder.
>rich Indian nepo baby
No.
TNBD
>>2541083>clocks generic white guy as indianI hope he wins to piss off the chvds, that's all that electoralism is useful for outside of china anyway.
I hope Mamdani loses to help discredit the Trotskyite approach. Why bother with rigged elections?
Is 22ml like a lot nowadays?
>>2541097He's guaranteed to win. He's polling at like 86%.
this is a fucking image board. support? what are you talking about? what the fuck do you want?
>>2539310The leftypol twitter page is throwing their massive support behind him. They made many posts for the cause and some of those got as much as hundreds of likes.
Who cares about some minor dem soc politician in New York? All I'm interested in in his regard is seeing pictures of his hot wife, but that's it. I wish I could forget everything I know about new york and everyone that lives there. Grand Central station? Central Park? 5th Avenue? Mamdani? Why do I know all these unnecessary and irrelevant things?
>>25393101. Elections change nothing.
2. Hes a liberal.
3. Only cares about idpol issues.
4. I personally dont care about idpol so much.
>>2539310Because Mamdani isn’t a socialist and is already very likely to win?
>>2541178Palestine is “idpol”?
>>>/USApol/
You can't be a socalist on a city level. Plus he's a democrat. Plus he's soft. Plus he's shilled by MSM.
>>2539310>No one believes he’s an actual socialistYou answered your own question. Don't care about the rest of the revisionist drivel, I'll exploit his popularity to try to spread class consciousness but he's a social fascist. I'm not going to support a social fascist. You shouldn't support a social fascist. forming a coalition with the enemy won't help them, it will hurt you. Pretending that you're building a mass base while literally having no vanguard is asinine and you're being used again you fucking opportunist.
>Why is leftypol not throwing massive support behind Mamdani?
do you think the guy needs leftypol's support?
only 22 million from 26 billionaires? usa politics is so cheap bruh
>>2542081aren't that limited to donations directly to the campaign? superpacs don't have any limit last time I checked
>>2539310We supposed comrade sliwa here sir
Imagine if he loses.
He’s going to win 60% of the vote tomorrow.
Screenshot this.
He won. Why isn’t leftypol celebrating?
>>2549798He’s still a succdem
>>2549798>>2549798The majority of users here are /pol/ larpers looking to get a reaction for their friends on 4chinz
>>2539445>I support Zohran wining so we can point and say "look - look at all the nothing electoralism gets you"At this point I think that's a lot more likely to result in apathy than anything else. The left needs to actually start racking up wins if a real worker's movement is ever going to materialize.
>>2549798I'm somewhat happy he won but I also don't really have anything past boilerplate to say about it. Just repeating the boilerplate is equivalent to not saying anything.
>>2539310This is huge for the left, socialists actually winning in the US is ground breaking.
Mamdani killed Rosa Luxemburg
>>2549818IM DRUNK AND FEELING JOY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN YEARS. LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>2549798Half people holding their breath and optimism after all the past experiences of getting burnt from voting. Bernie losing, Fetterman backstabbing, vote blue no matter who doing what it does(which the DNC abandons the minute socdem or leftist is chosen, as we saw with the Cuomo shit). Tired and battered
The other half are /pol/yps or "leftists" who probably think Tucker Carlson is a true leftist but will scream whenever there's someone even remotely a foot leftward of the overton window. MAGA communist COINTELPRO shit and people spouting every argument that they never use against right wing candidates
I'm glad he won though, but I seriously think Trump or his cult will try to do something fucky(you're against the working class if you don't worship trump btw)
>>2549912I have work tomorrow so I can't drink so drink for me too
I'm happy
>>2539485>BRO HE'S JUST AN ESTABLISHMENT DEMOCRAT SHILL FORGET THE FUCKING MILLIONS THE DNC AND BILLIONAIRES POURED INTO STOPPING HIM BRO kill yourselves, nothing is good enough for you cucks
your option is literally doing nothing and forming your own dead end cirlcejerks
Isn't Mrs. Mamdani an anti-Assad Syrian?
I don't care if Mamdani is a bit of a lib. He's the best candidate that could come out of an American lib election, or close to it.
>>2550024>The other half are /pol/yps or "leftists" who probably think Tucker Carlson is a true leftist but will scream whenever there's someone even remotely a foot leftward of the overton window.Tucker has the correct views on anti-imperialism.
Mamdani's views are just those of AOC.
>>2550088>Tucker has the correct views on anti-imperialism.YEAH LIKE WHEN HE WANTED TO REIMPOSE THE MONROE DOCTRINE BACK WHEN LULA WON AND MET WITH XI SO FUCKING LEFTIST I LOVE IT WHEN HE SAID WE NEED SHIPS CIRCLING BRAZIL IN CASE THEY BECAME CLOSE TO CHINAAAAAAAAA
FUCK FUCK FUCK I LOVE BEING A NEOCONSERVATIVE I LOVE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY I LOVE NICK "LITTLE GAY KID" FUENTES I LOVE HERITAGE
YOU LITTLE FUCKING SUBHUMANS SUCK OFF A LITERAL CROTCHSPAWN OF A CIA AGENT FOUNDER OF VOICE OF AMERICA AND A FAILED CIA AGENT HIMSELF WHILE GETTING MAD AT PEOPLE MAMDANI OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH MY FUCKING GOD I'M GONNA KILL YOU
>>2550088tailism for rightists will just have them eat your face as well, retard. long live the socdem mamdani who works in spite of himself to create the conditions of the proletarian world revolution
>>2550091Tucker wants to cut all ties with Isn'treal and renew America's relations with Russia. That's objectively the right positions that Mamdani doesn't have. Mamdani has Zios working for him too.
>>2550091>HERITAGE HERITAGE FOUNDATIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
SUCK OFF EVERY FUCKING RIGHT WING THIEL FUNDED THINK TANK GROOMED WELL ORCHESTRATED WHITE SUPREMACIST REACTIONARY
BUT GOD FORBID A FUCKIGN SOCDEM DOES ANYTHIGN THAT'S THE REAL FASCISMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA >>2550095>Tucker wants to cut all ties with Isn'treal==OH MY GOD THE NEOCON VAGUELY SIGNALS TO A VAGUE ANTIZIONIST POSTION OMG I'M CREAMING MY PANTS OH MY GOD THE BEAR IS ON A UNICYCLE NO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THE BEAR IS GOOD AT IT OR NOT, JUST THAT IT'S DOING IT AT ALL
I'M RAPING YOUR THROAT YOU STUPID FUCKING WORTHLESS COINTELPRO FUCKING TAILIST
FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGOT DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE I'M GONNA KILL YOU I'M GONNA KILL WHOEVER FUNDS YOU I HATE YOU YOU PEOPLE YOU FUCKING SUBHUMANS ARE LITERALLY AS BAD AS EVERY FUCKING NEONAZI ON /POL/ FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK >>2550098Tucker isn't a neocon. He's anti-neocon.
>>2550092>tailism for rightists will just have them eat your face as well, retard.It's almost like he's a right winger who just hates the "gay" "idpol"(brown) shit of the left, calls them astroturfed because of le soros or some shit, and then supports a fucking ex Fox News associate that was fucking born into a CIA-tv dinner heiress family and got the heritage foundation to kneel to him, that type of a fucking INSECT
He's willing to support that because for whatever reason, the white supremacist fascist death camp military prison industrial complex won't touch him, or he thinks it won't
These people are not honest, these people are shills, the Jackson Hinkle types, lower than bugs
>>2550099tailist scum, FUCK YOU
>>2550102they are human cockroaches, they never shut up, they keep multiplying, and they're a drain on the morale of everyone who isn't a neo-nazi conservative cock licker,
>>2550099You
*stabs you*
people *stabs you again* said this about *slices your throat* Trump *pokes your eyes out* ten years ago *cuts your head off* and five years ago *wet willy* and last year *kicks your head like the taliban kicking dead us soldier heads(people tucker called monkeys)*
>>2550105Trump was always a Zionist puppet. No one believed Trump was anti-imperialist, only that he was far less imperialist than his opponents.
>>2550103This place is infested with these little fucking slugs and I really do wonder who genuinely falls for this shit where the neonazi adjacent people are somehow seen as the most leftist
baby leftists probably,which is concerning, but I doubt they come here
What will they do when Trump cuts off funding? Threatens to deport Mamdani who is a naturalized citizen? Send in troops to NYC like he has done to other cities? Send in ICE to the city with the most immigrants? Throws people into gitmo for being immigrants? What will they do? NOTHIGN. THIS CUNT WILL STAY QUIET, OR EVEN CHEER,
CUZ THAT'S WHO HE'S SIDING WITHhurr duuur immigrants le fucking scabs huuuuuuuuuuuuuuurr imma side with the people who hate children of immigrant DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURR I LOVE GITMO I LOVE FASCIST BANANA REPUBLICS LIKE EL SALVADOR DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUR
>>2550024>>2550030It's important to have maximalist demands. "Nothing is ever good enough" is the correct position. It's why we have maximalist demands when it comes to Palestine and other issues.
>>2550123Trump won't deport Mamdani. He's married to a US-born citizen.
>>2550124>It's important to have maximalist demands."AND THAT'S WHY I LOVE REPUBLICANS WHO ARE BARELY DISCONNECTED FROM GEORGE BUSH"
HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUR KILL IMMIGRANTS DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUR>>2550126>WTF THAT'S ILLEGAL TRUMP WOULD NEVER BREAK THE LAW DOESN'T HE KNOW THAT'S ILLEGAL HAHA STUPID LIBTARD HAHAHA YOU ACT LIKE HE'S IGNORED SUPRE COURT ORDERS HAHA TRUMP JUST WANTS TO DEPORT THE CRIMINALS I MEAN TRUMP JUST WANTS TO DEPORT ALL THE ILLEGALS I MEAN TRUMP JUST WANTS TO DEPORT ALL THE IMMIGRANTS I MEAN TRUMP WANTS TO DEPORT ALL THE "HOMEGROWNS"YOU ARE DEMOCRATSYOU ARE DEMOCRATSYOU ARE DEMOCRATSYOU ARE DEMOCRATSYOU ARE DEMOCRATSYOU HAVE DNC BRAINYOU HAVE DNC CONSULTANT BRAINYOU ARE CONTROLLED OPPOSITION Realistically, what can Mamdani do?
>>2550143All of his proposals are possible but most of them besides freezing the rent will require some external aid (local or state) to accomplish
>>2550156Can he do anything to help Palestine?
How is Mamdani defeating the billionaires and Zionists not bigger news?
>>2539310This shit should have been deleted and merged into USApol a week ago.
trump is actually a anarchist accelerating the collapse of the american state and mamdani is a leftcom bordgist
>this is a big win for da Left(tm)!!!!!!!!
For Americans, the rest of the world doesn't exist (and New Yorkers are even worse at this).
>>2550184Because he didn’t?
>>2550174He can shut down the synagogues that support Zionism, yes.
>>2550184Hoping the stupidly wealthy politician does a heckin socialism!! Any day!
>>2550088>Tucker has the correct views on anti-imperialism.>>2550099>Tucker isn't a neocon. He's anti-neocon.< Tucker Carlson's father, Richard Warner Carlson, was the director of Voice of America, not the CIA, from 1986 to 1991, but he did have dealings with the intelligence community. Tucker Carlson has stated that his father worked in conjunction with the CIA during his time at Voice of America, which operated during the Cold War, a time when foreign intelligence services targeted media networks like Voice of America. While there is no public evidence Richard Warner Carlson was a CIA agent, the association with a U.S. intelligence network has led to speculation about his role. the ACP who empathize with him because they are also satanic liberals who glow in the dark from their demonic energy
>>2550184He didn't but leftypol pretending said people don't have a violent hatred for this man is also delusional
>>2550405>satanic>demonicThe ACP are a bunch of idiots who are piss easy to criticize and you choose the most retarded possible way to do it?
>>2550411Because this shithole instead of communists has only anti-anti-communists incapable of critical reasoning.
>pretending said people don't have a violent hatred for this man is also delusionalNobody ever. The haute bourgeois being at odds with the petit-bourgeois and viceversa is nothing new.
>>253931026 billionaires and they only came up with $22 million? Guess they don't care that much
>>2550425i think new york has some financing limits?
>>2550416>The ACP are a bunch of idiots who are piss easy to criticize<The Jakarta Method: Washington's Anticommunist Crusade and the Mass Murder Program that Shaped Our World is a 2020 political history book by American journalist and author Vincent Bevins. It concerns U.S. government support for and complicity in anti-communist mass killings around the world and their aggregate consequences from the Cold War until the present era. The title is a reference to Indonesian mass killings of 1965–66, during which an estimated one million people were killed in an effort to destroy the political left and movements for government reform in the country. noooo you're crazy and irrational for calling my fellow class of pseudo-intellectual armchair pundits 'monsters'! ACTUALLY there's no such thing as ontological evil, liberals are merely ignorant fools who haven't read my Substack criticisms that debunk them 🤡
>>2550456why is jackson like this? genuinely?
>>2550466Grown in a basement vat in Alexandria, VA.
>>2550447You must be more retarded than I thought if you think my post is an endorsement of the fucking ACP, lmfao.
>ontological evilRetarded and a pseud.
>>2550456>"Anti electoralism" uyghasWhat the fuck is anti-electoral about the ACP, a group actively participating in parliamentarism. Man everyone here is
seriously mentally retarded >>2550416>The ACP are a bunch of idiots who are piss easy to criticize and you choose the most retarded possible way to do it?His criticism and real point of his post is right there, calling them demonic is just insults, are you gonna wring your hands when people call each other faggots at the end of their posts?
>>2550483Criticizing the ACP for endorsing this or that politician kind of doesn't hit as much when every dumbass Amerilard here is endorsing the social-democrat in OP with a social program that can only hinder communist struggle, lol.
>>2550466These type of guys either negatively polarize themselves so much against "woke"(aka culture war slop manufactured by think tanks and oil oligarchs for white boomers yet they willingly engage with) to the point of literally just siding with reactionaries who even have less in common with them(nominally speaking at least)
That or they're another one in a long list of paid psyops and wreckers
They cheer on reactionaries for even saying 1/10th of what leftists say or even do
>>2550489>that can only hinder communist struggleWhat the fuck are you doing then faggot? What revolutionary struggle are you engage in?
>>2550489Nobody believes Mamdani is an actual communist. We’re celebrating because it shows we can win over the billionaires, bankers and Zios without a full-blown revolution.
>>2550456>second picthat's a pretty fucking wild gun design
>>2550174He can shut down 770 Eastern Parkway in Crown Heights, which is the headquarters of Chabad-Lubavitcher, the biggest religious Zionist organization in the world. These monsters have billions of dollars and routinely threaten pro-Palestine activists. Mamdani could forcefully remove their org from the city which he should do.
They also perform metzitzah b’peh on babies.
>>2550732so some Indian Muslim will stop tunnel pedo Jews and not God emperor Trump…what a retarded timeline
>>2550732He can’t shut religious institutions down.
>>2550515We won't. Every action Mamdani does will be challenged in the courts, and pork flight will damage or even devastate NYC 's competitiveness.
What Mamdani achieves is sabotage in the Imperial core. If Mamdani actually helps set up a thriving socialist movement ready for Trotskyite revolution, great. But the median expectation is that he causes a lot of heat and fire disrupting the arch capitalist city and country.
>>2550905>Trotskyite revolutionanon I
>>2550905This is one of the most retarded reasons I've seen for celebrating some affluent bourgeois liberal and praise him as putting forward working class demands when he clearly isn't.
>set up a thriving socialist movement ready for Trotskyite revolutionLmao, what.
Because after Bernie Sanders, AOC, Syriza, Podemos, Lula, etc, etc, I know better.
But specifically about Mamdani, he took into his team the same dnc shills that shanked Bernie, among other things. Saying a few nice sounding things isn't gonna cut it.
>>2550975The most Mamdani will do is establish a string of community fridges.
>>2550975none of those are communists. the problem is that you people expect socdems to be communists when they clearly arent, if you saw them as socdems that are limited by their conditions you wouldnt be "disappointed"
>>2551096Yeah Mamdani isn’t a communist either.
>>2551096Tell that to Jacobin and Slavoj Zizek.
>>2550905>and pork flight will damage or even devastate NYC 's competitiveness.Why are their fox news believers here
>Porkies might retaliate so do nothing!????
porkies do pork shit and it's mamdani's fault?
Do I need to rape Hinkle harder to make you make sense? At least say "kill porky" or some shit because the only shit I'm hearing impied here is do nothing or else proky will be mad
>>2551096>the problem is that you people expect socdems to be communistsNo one does this outside of dumb memes
>>2551283what's the context
FAGGOT >>2551283>NerdeenShe's an idiot.
>>2551291Take that anprimm flag off if you even have to ask this.
vgh I was all in for zorro mmomydommy until he SOLD OUT and condemened "KILL ALL UYGHURrussian saboteurS" written on a child's face comrades
There's only one solution: comrades in NYC must stage a Kronstadt moment the day after Mamdani takes power.
I don't care what you do but it has to be massive. Stage a mass protest for Gaza and/or Sudan. Wreck shit. March through the financial district in Manhattan. Just make it wild and see how Mr. Mayor reacts.
>>2550937I'm saying left accelerationism, because Mamdani is likely to fail. Maximize damage to AmeriKKKa in the process and protect the real movement.
>>2551088>H-m-sWhat the fuck is this
>>2551338leninist rxn to kronstadt was a betrayal of socialism so not best example but point takn but how could ppl stage something so big
>>2551390the kronstadt mutiny was organized by whites, financed by french and english imperialists, and was petty-bourgeois anarchist, thus a betrayal of worker-peasant bolshevism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnUNrTX8YCohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpKZRuoyJT0 >>2551429Itll work this time because the economic calculstion problem was solved in the 80s quit being such pansies
>>2551404Amazing, nearly everything you've said is completely bullshit. The Kronstadt soldiers were loyal to socialism and simply want to create a better world without unilateral tyranny by self-assured Leninists who already had a track record of suppressing dissent and crushing opposition. You making excuses for their betrayal is telling.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/mett/1938/kronstadt.htm >>2551450Why would Hizb care about the mayor of NYC?
>>2551470Shit, forgor flag. It's been a while, Leftypol
Mamdani is only slightly to the left of Obama when Obomber was elected in 2008.
This is just another Syriza/Podemos red herring.
>>2551137Has Zizek said anything about Mamdani yet?
>>2551470Is there anyone alive that this contrarian likes?
>>2551497Have you considered
kys?
>>2551338Mamdani controls one of the largest terror forces in the world, the NYPD. If they’re going to protest do it as soon as he comes into office.
>>2551821so the real actual opposition argument is that PENSION FUNDS should go to israel? what even is america?
>>2551823Bill is a giga Zionist Jew billionaire. He spends a ton on funding Israel. He is who paid for those trucks driving around doxxing protestors and he got the Harvard president fired
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ackman#:~:text=Ackman%20has%20been%20an%20active,as%20president%20of%20Harvard%20University.
>>2551821Imagine being so delusional in thinking most of these will happen.
>>2551821Why is Palestine the only issue centred in “anti-war” activism?
Because he's brown and his name is Mamdani.
>>2551821>divest CUNYthey're going after the lolishos
People here are too cynical, yeah he isn't going to establish communism in the imperial core but anything that weakens the empire and its overall influence is a good thing, no matter how small.
>>2551821If even one of these things is true its a boon.
>>2551907It's over getchan bros
>>2551821>>2551911The DSA's take here is probably best. Present a list of demands and if some get passed then we've helped Palestine. If no demands get passed then we've discredited bourgeois democracy.
>>2551856Yeah let's not even bother and just whine on an imageboard instead
>>2551821He should simply order ICE to deport all “Israeli” citizens from NYC.
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>>2552250Jacobin, Zizek, CTH: the unholy trinity of asinine leftists.
Pol is malding over his victory hahahaha
>>2552260All this means is, Mamdani won’t need to raise taxes or ask Hochul for money because he has big investors.
>>2539310Ironically, he won nearly all of Manhattan including most of the wealthy districts.
>>2552376>>2552374Hot take, people demanding ideological purity (i.e. open endorsement of the resistance, exclusively calling for a one statr solution) from American politicans on the Palestine question aren't thinking strategically or practically. The most important shift in the situation of Palestinians that Americans can affect would be ending US military and economic support for Israel. Without it the Zionist project is not sustainable or viable, and will collapse sooner or later. If somebody like Mamdani is in support of cutting that aid, then frankly it doesn't matter much what his opinion is of Hamas. The Palestinian cause will succeed or fail based on whether Israel can be cut off from their American benefactors, not whether politicians express sympathy for Hamas.
>>2552383You will have to tell this to the Thawabet-tards.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DLV9kuJI3zJ/ >>2552385Dafuq?
No way this account isn’t satire or glowie shit.
>>2539310>No one believes he’s an actual socialist, however his victory will be the most important victory of the American left of the past 90 years.It's because leftypol is filled with anti social retards who don't understand the basic concept of being popular and getting people on your side
Mamdani is charismatic, witty, well liked by normies, is a pretty chill guy and most importantly, isn't a doomer
leftypol will shame you for these traits, because their only personality is "america bad" "why hasn't america started a revolution?
It's why you see them go full damage control trying to doompost him because they know that it's how to get people to follow you and they can't produce the same result
>>2552391>problematic>normalizeG L O W
>>2552422Oh and
>internalized X >>2539310He spreads imperialist disinformation against Cuba and Venezuela
>>2551449Watch the videos and confront actual facts.
millenial anon I beseech thee, was this kind of what the rise of Obama was like? but a random DSA guy instead of Keynesian?
>>2552493>nooo all the criticisms of the people who lived through it and all the historians who have analyzed it are all wrong only my ML youtuber is correctThat's why the sailors never actually attacked the mainland government even though if they were actually anti-socialist it was in their best interest to do so because it was the only possible way for them to not get immediately annihilated, right? Them waiting around and asking, hoping for their demands to be met can be easily ignored in favor of a simplistic "It was the Whites" narrative! So true!
https://www.marxists.org/archive/serge/1937/11/truth-kronstadt.htmhttps://www.marxists.org/history/etol/writers/macdonald/1938/04/kronstadt.htmhttps://www.marxists.org/archive/steinberg/1953/workshop/ch21.htmhttps://www.marxists.org/history/ussr/events/kronstadt/1975/lessons-kronstadt.htmhttps://www.marxists.org/history/ussr/events/kronstadt/analysis.htmhttps://files.libcom.org/files/kronstadt_1921_avrich.pdf >>2552381QRD on Indians in Uganda?
>>2552391How did Said have "internalized racism" exactly?
>>2552544We don't negoiate with terrorists
>>2539310You are actually retarded if you believe that.
1: He will throw you under the bus in a millisecond. He did so to Hasan who is way more lib than you are.
2: Democracy is a load of bullshit. Go see if voting will ever get pig cops doxxed and fired, go see if voting will ever actually lower the price of goods or protect your job/increase your pay. Violence is the only thing that works. Voting is a cope for those unable or unwilling to commit violence. Period. Yeah jail sucks. So I don't expect you to go commit violence, but that doesn't meaning voting does dick.
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