/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2573251
>sanctioned tanker
What does that mean, though? Will they sink it? Will they seize it?

>>2573251
reposting in usapol

>>2573667
I imagine they will just seize it. burgers have been blowing up venezuelan fishermen, but nothing on the scale of a tanker.

>>2573251
>On Monday, a State Department designation of the Cartel de los Soles as a foreign terrorist organization came into effect. US officials have repeatedly claimed that Maduro directly commands the so-called cartel.

This is an entirely fictional cartel btw. It simply doesn't exist. It was invented by the US government and CIA just this week, to create an excuse for ground invasion under the guise of "this nation is run by a drug cartel that is using cocaine to destroy ordinary American lives as part of a communist guerrila war".
They are simply revising and reusing the same strategy that worked to justify the invasion of Iraq. History never repeats but it spirals.

>>2573681
The Cartel de los Soles is just a codeword for the Venezeulan Military. I think the American government made a statement that the Venezuelan high command just so happens to also be a high organised cartel smuggling drugs and "le prison gang rapists" to America. It's textbook regime change prelude bullshittery.

>>2573686
>It's textbook regime change prelude bullshittery.
Decap doubters btfo.

>>2574031
Who doubted that the US would engage in reactionary tictacs?

The peace candidate btw

>>2574131
The tree of porky peace must be watered by resource wars

>>2574132
to walk the road of peace, sometimes we need to be ready to climb the mountain of conflict

Nothing ever happens

I think this is the proper order (with more detail):
<Maduro decap [still here, activity intensifying]
<Russian/Chinese words of support
<Cucktin using his new strategic-agreement line with Venezuela to counsel le epic restraint chess
<harsh words at the UN from Global South countries, none of whom will actually cut ties with the US, despite the copium smoked by some Cucktin apologists on what the Global South values about his cuckoldry
<Iran-style social media blitz and then retaliation against empty barracks, prioritizing fireworks displays over targets
<fizzle

>empty barracks
for some reason, this phrase cracks me up every time I see it, btw

>The Dominican Republic permits the United States to use the Las Américas International Airport in Punta Caucedo, Santo Domingo, and the San Isidro Air Base to support Operation Southern Spear targeting alleged drug traffickers linked by the U.S. to Venezuelan authorities.
yeah it's regime change alright

>>2575174
>Trinidad and Tobago
>Puerto Rico
>US Virgin Islands
>we need Dominican airport, too!
Well?.. I'm waiting.

>>2575174
They're setting up some empty barracks in range of the crippled gear that China and Russia have reluctantly donated so that Maduro's successor can save some face. Otherwise, hard to see how Ven collects the Iran upgrade without those empty barracks.

>>2575216
>crippled
proof?

>>2575483
It occurred to me in a dream. QED. I also like being optimistic instead of a doomer - crippled gear from China and Russia would be a yuge deal.

EMPTY BARRACKS status?

>>2575512
I’ve heard unconfirmed reports of Venezuela getting a large number of German 2 drones from Russia. It’s very possible considering that some Rubicon Center specialists are in Venezuela rn

>>2575534
Subjecting the pindos to cutting-edge drone warfare that the Russians have honed in Ukraine would be based poetic justice, but Putin doesn't have it in him.

I don't see China intervening. What I do see China doing is something akin to the Saudis in the Yom Kippur War.

>>2575581
Anyone who thinks China will do anything is delusional. At most you can expect diplomatically worded platitudes about respecting the sovereignty of nations.

>>2575585
Why do you think that? China has repeatedly expressed its desire to defend its sovereignty.

>>2575585
>At most you can expect diplomatically worded platitudes about respecting the sovereignty of nations.
Yeah, probably a few minutes after the comments on some new optimization in high-speed rail. Or some mercantile happenings in Cambodia.
>>2575587
>Why do you think that? China has repeatedly expressed its desire to defend its sovereignty.
Defend how, though? Technically speaking, those diplomatically worded platitudes constitute a defense.

>>2575655
>Defend how, though?
Economic warfare. It's not the 2000's anymore. China can fuck America by restricting access to strategic elements and labour.

>>2575174
2 more weeks

Venezuela bans six airlines amid US tensions
Venezuela has revoked operating rights for six major airlines including Iberia and Turkish Airlines after they heeded western warnings and suspended routes following a military build-up by US forces in the region.

Venezuela’s civil aviation authority also revoked the rights for Latam, TAP, Avianca and Gol, accusing the carriers of taking part in “acts of state terrorism promoted by the US” in a social media post on Thursday.

The US Federal Aviation Administration last week warned airlines of potential dangers when flying in Venezuelan airspace, citing the “worsening security situation and heightened military activity”.

Other national aviation regulators have also issued warnings after a major US naval build-up in the Caribbean that Venezuela’s authoritarian President Nicolás Maduro says is a pretext for his ousting.

Iberia said on Thursday that it “cannot operate in areas where there is a high security risk. This is the current situation in Venezuela, where Aesa, the Spanish aviation authority, recommends not flying at this time.

“The company is confident that, once calm is restored in the area, normal operations can also be resumed.”

The US deployment — which includes the world’s most advanced aircraft carrier, more than 14,000 troops, a dozen warships and a nuclear-powered fast-attack submarine — has carried out strikes against alleged drug trafficking vessels, killing more than 83 people. President Donald Trump has been coy about the mission’s true objectives.

“We can do things the easy way, that’s fine, and if we have to do it the hard way that’s fine too,” Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One on Tuesday. “I’m not going to tell you what the goal is.”

Maduro, a revolutionary socialist who has been in power since 2013, is accused by Washington of leading the Cartel of the Suns, an alleged drug cartel run by Venezuela’s political and military elites, which on Monday was designated by the US as a foreign terrorist organisation. A US Department of Justice reward for information leading to Maduro’s capture stands at $50mn.

On Tuesday, Maduro rallied supporters in Caracas, describing the tensions with the US as “decisive for the existence of the republic”. “If the homeland needs it, we will give our lives,” he said.

On Wednesday, during a visit by US defence secretary Pete Hegseth, the Dominican Republic authorised Washington to operate in restricted areas within its San Isidro Air Base and Las Américas airport outside Santo Domingo, the capital.

“We’re deadly serious about this mission,” Hegseth said, speaking alongside the Dominican Republic President Luis Abinader, adding that Washington hopes to “expand [the model] with other countries that want to associate with us” in fighting drug trafficking.

US forces also this month carried out exercises in Trinidad and Tobago, whose coast at its nearest point is only a few miles from Venezuela.

The flight ban on Thursday leaves Venezuela, which has long been under US sanctions, further isolated, with only a handful of airlines operating a few routes to Cuba, Colombia, Panama, Curaçao and Bolivia. 

its happening

Looks like they're trying to pressure Maduro off with the Turks. Really trying to not fire shots, i think the amerikkkans know they have no viable plan here.
Maduro’s ties to Turkey could smooth path to possible exile
When Nicolás Maduro declared himself Venezuela’s president once again after a 2024 election that the United States and more than 50 other countries declared fraudulent, Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan was one of the few foreign leaders to call.
When Erdogan was inaugurated for a third term in 2023, Maduro flew from Caracas to be there for a fellow leader he has called his “brother.” Their governments have exchanged numerous cabinet-level visits in recent years, usually to sign strategic agreements, and maintain a healthy trade relationship.
So it would come as no surprise, experts say, if Maduro — whom President Donald Trump has said he wants to push out of office “the easy way … or the hard way” — is looking to Turkey as a possible safe harbor if he decides to flee Caracas.
The hard way, Trump has all but said, involves the use of the massive U.S. naval and air forces he has assembled in the Caribbean near Venezuela’s coast to try to capture him or destroy his military’s will to fight.
“Turkey is the perfect place for him,” said a person familiar with administration deliberations over the current operations near Venezuela. Maduro “trusts Erdogan … [and] Erdogan has good relations with Trump. … At end of day, what are realistic and acceptable outcomes? Obviously, people are thinking about it, working on it.”
A potential Turkish exile deal for Maduro, said the person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak for the administration, could come with “guarantees,” presumably ensuring he would not be extradited to the United States, where he is under indictment for drug trafficking, corruption and narcoterrorism, with a $50 million bounty on his head.
The International Criminal Court, on the request of several countries in the hemisphere, has been investigating alleged “crimes against humanity,” including illegal detentions, in Venezuela since shortly after Maduro first came to office in 2013.
Asked if a Maduro exile to Turkey is being or has been discussed, or if Trump, as he said Tuesday, “might talk to him” directly, deputy White House spokeswoman Anna Kelly said “no comment.” The Turkish Embassy in Washington did not respond to queries.
The Venezuelan government has denied repeated reports that Maduro is considering exile. In a speech to supporters Tuesday in Caracas, Maduro said Venezuelans had to be “capable of defending every inch of this blessed land from any sort of imperialist threat or aggression,” and vowed he would “give my all” to that cause.
The administration claims that Maduro heads two separate “terrorist” cartels it says are using the profits of drug trafficking to engage in an armed conflict with the United States and that its actions are legal under the laws of war. Amid various justifications for blowing up more than 20 small boats allegedly carrying narcotics, killing more than 80 people aboard, Trump has also said Maduro emptied his country’s prisons and “insane asylums” to send “millions” of illegal Venezuelans to the U.S.
Those claims have come under intense scrutiny by Democratic lawmakers and some Republicans who question both their veracity and legal underpinnings. This week, after six Democratic members of Congress, all military or CIA veterans, posted a video reminding U.S. troops that they have a duty not to comply with illegal orders, Trump labeled them “seditious” and potentially “punishable by DEATH.”
The Defense Department almost immediately announced that it was launching an investigation into one of them, retired naval officer and astronaut Sen. Mark Kelly (D-Arizona), and the other lawmakers said Tuesday the FBI has requested to interview them.
Numerous polls have indicated that a majority of Americans do not favor U.S. military intervention in Venezuela and a large part of Trump’s MAGA base — including some cabinet members — have quietly suggested that the headlong push toward war could be a betrayal of his “no more wars” campaign promise.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio, the son of Cuban immigrants and a former Florida senator, has long argued for a tough posture against Maduro. But several people familiar with White House deliberations, both in Trump’s first term and now, have insisted that the hard line comes directly from the president.
Maduro is not without international friends. Cuba reportedly has supplied personal security for Maduro and senior regime officials. Russia has been a close ally, supplying weaponry for the Venezuelan military and filling in economic holes left by harsh U.S. sanctions. As U.S. pressure escalated, Maduro reached out to Russia, China and Iran last month with appeals to enhance its worn military capabilities and solicit assistance, The Post reported. Several large Russian cargo planes with unknown cargos reportedly landed recently in Venezuela.
In a phone call Tuesday, Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi told his Venezuelan counterpart Yvan Gil that the U.S. “threat of the use of force against [Venezuela] is a clear example of the gross violation of the fundamental principles of the UN Charter and the peremptory norms of international law,” according to Iranian media.
Araghchi condemned Washington’s “bullying approach” toward Venezuela and other Latin American countries, the media reports said.
But experts discounted Russia, Iran or Cuba as likely destinations should Maduro decide his time is up.
“If he’s worried about guarantees and people holding up their end of the deal” a Turkish landing “provides more security,” the person familiar with administration thinking said. Maduro “has been moving gold there forever” and he and his extended family and cronies “have enough wealth and networks there to keep him happy.”
Turkey holds mining concessions for much of Venezuela’s substantial gold reserves. U.S. officials in the past have alleged that gold sent from Venezuela to Turkey for refinement has found its way to Iran and into Turkish accounts personally held by Maduro and other regime officials.
Turkey also would jump at the chance to be seen as essential to Trump’s foreign policy goals, said Lisel Hintz, a scholar on Turkey and assistant professor at Johns Hopkins University’s School of Advanced International Studies. Ankara could try to leverage its support to get U.S. approval for F-35 fighter jets, after it was booted from the program for purchasing Russian S-400 antiaircraft defenses.
Erdogan, whose government has allowed senior Hamas officials to maintain residences in Turkey, has been praised by the White House for helping to achieve the Gaza ceasefire by bringing Hamas to the table and getting it to sign on to Trump’s peace plan.
Turkey has also hosted early-stage peace talks between Moscow and Kyiv and is expected to do so again if Trump’s proposed peace plan for Ukraine progresses. And it was Erdogan who encouraged and facilitated the advance by Syrian militants into Damascus that late last year brought about the fall of Bashar al-Assad.
Venezuela could be “the fourth conflict that Erdogan is helping to end with Trump,” said Soner Cagaptay, a Turkish American political scientist who directs the Turkish research program at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.
“Turkey is the sweet spot for both Trump and Maduro,” Cagaptay said. “If [Maduro] is in Russia, he disappears,” much as Assad has in Russian exile. “If he goes to Cuba,” where the economy is collapsing and there is little freedom of movement, as in Iran, “good luck.”
Maduro exiting to Turkey, he said, “doesn’t involve any loss of face for Trump, Maduro won’t have gone to the dark side. For Maduro, he won’t feel unsafe.”

>>2575660
>China can fuck America by restricting access to strategic elements and labour.
1. they don't need to wait for Maduro's corpse floating down the river to do that if they were going to do it (they won't)
2. as this year has shown, they're very forgiving toward America and never keep the pressure on until it really hurts

>>2575768
From what I know China prevented complete collapse of Venezuelan economy when oil prices crashed. Wouldnt be surprised if Venezuela has Chinese made anti-naval drones up in her sleeve.

>>2575768
Also doing economic suicide would be completely idiotic at this point as Chinese position is so strong. Everything has to be made in silence so CIA doesnt completely chimp out about communist domino effect.

>>2575792
I have no doubt that China's assistance to Venezuela will be so silent and deadly that nobody knows it's there…

I bet BRICS are negotiating the price of selling Venezuela right now lel. Maduro and Venezuela are SO fucked. However this ends it will be Venezuelans paying the bill and becoming the bitch of a great power.

If the US negotiates to not regime change, they'll still keep Venezuela as is and do everything possible to undermine it. And if the "ati-imperialist" liberals put their foot down about the US fucking even more with OPEC and trade… well then those trade partners will want *their* assurances of return for their investment. So then it's Maduro's ever more corrupt government doing even more class collaboration, until such time as the US decides to break the deal anyway.

So best case scenario Venezuelans are on borrowed time to become another "blunder" on the US bodycount.

>>2575857
>I bet BRICS are negotiating the price of selling Venezuela right now lel.

Based on what?

>>2575857 (me)
>If the US negotiates to not regime change, they'll still keep Venezuela as is and do everything possible to undermine it.
decides to*
in order to keep the country as an undeveloped extractive colony.

IMO the best outcome here is the US misjudging support for the government, invading and getting fucked by a long ass war. Because of course none of Venezuela's "allies" are gonna extend their protection to prevent the US from jumping in.

And even then, Venezuelans get fucked.

>>2575857
>BRICS are negotiating the price of selling Venezuela right now
venezuela cant be sold by the brics because its barely an org and it has 0 impact on venezuela, the worst thing that could happen is the individual countries composing it stop trading with venezuela, and they're not about to do this just to please the US, on the contrary they send signals of support

>those trade partners will want *their* assurances of return for their investment
if countries were to challenge the US directly like that, it certainly wouldnt be for the petty reward of venezuelan wealth, but for geopolitical consideration and competition with the US, so its unlikely the support would come with strings attached

>However this ends it will be Venezuelans paying the bill and becoming the bitch of a great power
venezuelans will pay the bill but they might well keep their independence and dignity at least

>>2575861
his schizo glowie tendencies

>>2575862
>Because of course none of Venezuela's "allies" are gonna extend their protection to prevent the US from jumping in
nothing short of threatening nuclear war could meaningfully be done by these allies to directly prevent an invasion or airstrikes, so thats a weird ass comment.

I'm astounded that people actually think China is gonna assist Venezuela militarily or set up some kind of economic embargo against the US lmao.
inb4 it's the Iran thread all over again and the cope quickly turns to China operating covertly…

Chinese state media is still non-stop talking about the Japanese chud lady and her desire to do away with Article 9 for the Japanese constitution. I haven't heard anything about the obvious US military build up in the Caribbean.

>>2576377
It’s related. If tensions are high in the Chinese sea then the US can’t afford to have the battlegroup with their most advanced carrier diddling around in Latin America. Imagine if the US Navy gets bogged down in an invasion of Venezuela and China starts blockading Taiwan at the same time, they’re screwed

>>2576401
America wants Japan to remilitarise to put the pressure off themselves.

>>2576401
The US obviously doesn't believe that China has the will to attack Taiwan (except in two conditions: a Taiwanese declaration of independence or a suicidal Taiwanese preemptive attack on China, both of which the US has full control in keeping Taiwan from doing). The US sees BRICS states as a bunch of paper tigers in the sense that some of these states have highly advanced militaries but are lacking that certain 'drive'.

Breaking: OSINT analysts monitoring satellite photos of Trinidad have discovered newly formed empty barracks marked with a massive "hit me" sign.

>>2575857
>I bet BRICS are negotiating the price of selling Venezuela right now lel
Didn't read. Need to tell you that you are retartid.

The Revolution Will Not Be Terrorized
The Caribbean Sea holds the memories of countless African and Indigenous lives brutally killed by imperial power. From the terrible Transatlantic Slave Trade to today’s US bombings of civilian vessels, executing dozens of Caribbean people. Though separated by centuries, the underlying motives remain the same: profit-driven colonial domination.

This year, Latin America and the Caribbean honor the memory of the victims of the “Zong Massacre” on its 244th anniversary and its lasting impact on the fight against colonialism.

In 1781, the British slave ship Zong left Accra in Ghana with 442 Africans on board, which was more than twice its capacity. The captives were destined for Jamaica, where they would be sold for an average price of £36 each to work on sugar plantations. However, the British enslavers ran low on supplies after navigating off course miles from the island and decided to mass murder captives to collect insurance money of £30 per person.

On November 29, 54 women and children were thrown into the Caribbean Sea. A further 78 men were tossed overboard in the following days, while 10 enslaved people jumped into the water in an act of revolutionary resistance. Another 62 Africans had already died on board from malnutrition and disease. The story is only known because of court documents, which were filed after the insurance company sued the ship’s crew to avoid paying.

The “Zong Massacre” reminds us of the horrors of colonialism and serves as a warning against today’s Western imperialist efforts to repeat history through different methods, exploiting the labour and resources of indigenous and black nations.

<The Caribbean massacre
Centuries ago, the bodies of thousands of Africans were either left to drown or to be eaten by sharks. The same is happening now, with more than 80 people having been killed since September, mostly in Caribbean waters just a few miles from the Venezuelan coast, but also in the Eastern Pacific, by US military forces. Their mangled bodies have been left to sink to the bottom of the sea or wash up on the shores of nearby countries such as Trinidad and Tobago, as happened soon after the US attacked the first vessel, killing 11.

Trinidadian villagers said that the two corpses that washed ashore had burned marks on their faces, making them unrecognizable, and that they were missing limbs, as if they had been blown up. Rather than acknowledging these deaths as likely victims of US terrorism, the New York Times, which first reported the story, described the bodies’ mutilated appearance as a “mystery.”

The victims of recent US bombings hail from Venezuela, Colombia and Trinidad and Tobago, all territories with a centuries-long legacy of Indigenous and African anti-colonial resistance. Fishing communities have reported friends and relatives missing in the past three months, believing US forces likely bombed them. The Trump administration claims the boats were trafficking narcotics, but it has never presented any supporting evidence.

United Nations officials and experts have classified the strikes as “extrajudicial killings,” a term that essentially means murder. Even if the allegations were true, the US government does not have the authority to kill people in the Caribbean on the colonial basis that their lives are worth less than American lives, as the British slavers on the Zong did to Africans.

“Every boat we knock out, we save 25,000 American lives,” said convicted felon and US President Donald Trump. Not only is this argument entirely false, but deeply racist.

<US lies and terrorism
Washington has dubbed its maritime terrorizing campaign “Operation Southern Spear.” With a self-declared anti-narcotics mission, the US has stationed thousands of troops, dozens of tactical aircraft, and destroyer ships in the Caribbean since mid-August. This excessive force includes the USS Gerald R. Ford, the world’s largest aircraft carrier, and its strike group.

In addition, the Pentagon is rehabilitating its former Roosevelt Roads Naval Station in Ceiba, Puerto Rico, where US Marines are conducting amphibious landing drills. Meanwhile, the US 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit, specialized in attacks in foreign countries, has held two joint exercises since October with forces from Trinidad and Tobago, only about seven miles off the coast of Venezuela.

Two Caribbean nations — one under US colonial rule since 1898, and another, a former European colony until 1962, which shares indigenous roots with Venezuela — are being used as staging grounds for US militarism in the region, and to terrorize Venezuela’s 26-year-old anti-colonial Bolivarian Revolution, which is under threat of invasion.

The main objective has never been to stop drug smuggling into the US. This is an evil that US officials have historically welcomed because it is profitable. After all, it was American pharmaceutical companies that created the US opioid crisis by aggressively marketing addictive pain medication that kills thousands yearly, while politicians turn a blind eye.

The real objective is to prevent Venezuela’s revolutionary project. This involves halting the flow of Venezuelan oil to allies, such as Cuba and China, under sovereign agreements. The intention is to force Venezuela back to a time when US oil companies could exploit the country without restriction and the Venezuelan people were denied sovereignty.

History has taught us that every US regime change effort is preceded by false narratives to justify intervention. In this case, Washington has accused Caracas of playing a major role in international drug trafficking, a claim disproven by both the UN Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) and the US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) in their yearly reports. Venezuela does not produce drugs and is an insignificant transit country in the global narcotics trade.

Around 90 per cent of the cocaine from South America reaches the US via Pacific routes and US-allied Central American nations. Deadly fentanyl primarily enters the US through official ports of entry on the southern border, mostly smuggled in by US citizens.

Despite all the evidence pointing to the opposite, in 2020 the US Department of Justice brought “narcoterrorism” charges against Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro and other senior officials, tying them to the non-existent “Cartel de los Soles.” A USD $50 million bounty has been placed on Maduro’s head as well.

No international court, UN body, or independent investigation has ever found the existence of a real, organized “Cartel de los Soles” entrenched in the Venezuelan state. The term was coined by Venezuelan media to refer to CIA assets within the military who were involved in drug smuggling in the 1990s. This label was later adopted by Washington and corporate media as a political tool to smear revolutionary leader Hugo Chávez and, later, his successor, President Maduro.

Washington does not care how infallible its narratives are, because its aim is to render revolutionary projects toxic and terrorize the people carrying them forward. The current military threats against Venezuela follow years of coercive economic sanctions that have killed tens of thousands of people, failed mercenary invasions, attacks on critical infrastructure and the imposition of a parallel US-backed government.

<Holding on to the future
The lies evolve into increasingly ridiculous ones and the strategies for regime change vary, but at the heart of it all is the same racist US empire, built on stolen indigenous land and African slavery, which is attempting to recolonise South America. Venezuela is the obvious target because it is at the forefront of the struggle against this imposition, and is a living example that it is possible to resist and thrive despite imperialist aggression.

Under Chávez, Venezuela nationalized its oil and gas industry in 2007, bringing the world’s largest oil reserves and fourth-largest gas reserves under domestic control, with revenue funding free healthcare and education for the people. The country began to advance a new model of social relations based on community and a better life. This can be seen today in the country’s assembly-driven and self-governed communes, which are reimagining a future of life over profit, popular power and solidarity, despite the constant wars waged by the US.

Omali Yeshitela, longtime leader of the Uhuru Movement and founder of the African People’s Socialist Party, perfectly identified the current struggle as one between the colonial past that the US decadent empire is trying to “lock us in” and the fledgling new world. The 1781 “Zong Massacre” and today’s US atrocities in the Caribbean are mirrors of this struggle.

“What is happening between the US and Venezuela is an attempt to hold back history,” he said during an online Venezuela solidarity event on November 13. “To prevent the future from occurring. A future of liberation, free from the past of slavery and colonialism.”

The Uhuru leader issued a timely warning that those trying to hold us back would stop at nothing to achieve their goal, from killing fishermen on small vessels to invading Venezuela to loot its resources and to stop the example set by the Bolivarian Revolution.

“The revolution will not be terrorized,” said Yeshitela. This statement conveys more than we realize. Venezuela’s Bolivarian Revolution cannot be terrorized into submission, nor can it be defeated, because it has already shown the world what our collective future holds.

The views expressed in this article are the author’s own and do not necessarily reflect those of the Venezuelanalysis editorial staff.

>>2576763
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>>2575768
Why are you so mad that they haven't gone all-out with the trade war which Trump and not China started? Clearly it was not planned to have a sudden full decoupling in 2025. However, they can very much apply pressure with new rare earths restrictions as soon as an invasion of Venezuela starts, forcing the Trump administration to either back off or fight a trade war and guerrilla war at the same time.