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>>2568993Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet 172 posts and 64 image replies omitted.>>2570193Could this demolish his legacy long-term or will it just be one of those things where people are like "yeah that sucks but he still did a lot of important stuff"? The Michael Jackson effect.
>>2570193Reminder that there is no excuse to have not read "Noam Chomsky and the Compatible Left" by now
https://archive.ph/ITidH >Richard Bruce Cheney WAS an American politician and businessman who served as the 46th vice president of the United States
i cry everytime
like and share if you cry
>>2570195for a lot of people it settles the discussion on who's more based between Parenti and Chomsky.
people don't want to think that their ideology is driven by some guy associated with a pedo.
Parenti undefeated.
>>2570162> pink-brown allianceGlad someone was here to say it. NATOism is modern day liberal fascism.
>>2569988>these americans are arrogant, so play nice with them, so we can guide them to be betteryeah, that's arrogant, but not nearly as arrogant as
>let's put these guys into indentured servitude to build our railroads, turn a blind eye when locals lynch them, and then pass the Chinese Exclusion Act when they are done.I've noticed a tendency where people view the
slightest reversal of a historical trend as a total reversal. It's similar but not identical to thinking, for example, that being called a cracker a couple of times is a total reversal of slavery and jim crow. Hit me up when the Chinese pass Burger Exclusion Acts and lynch working class Americans living in China. That would be much closer to your claim that " the Chinese have become as arrogant and patronizing as the Americans were to them in the 19th century"
>>2570204Thanks
>>2570208At the very least I feel like I see fewer people flaunting "designer ideologies" now versus a few years ago, just regular American antisocial thinking again
>>2570168Honestly I think Trump is just a dullard and Mamdani is extremely charismatic and convinced Donald's goofy ass that actually social democracy is good.
>>2569944in America donkeys are called asses, or jackasses, which people are also called when they're being rude and stubborn. In America donkeys are also the symbol of the Democratic party. (not the anon, just answering your question, not really invested in the conversation)
>>2570220why be so optimistic? I'd rather be pessmisistic and wrong (pleasantly surprised) than optimistic and wrong (naive).
>>2569861>read the roomyou are only reading the room, while others are aware there's a world outside the room (america)
>>2570224Pessimism is the foundation of defeatism.
>>2570045>aka not a lot of people. Most of the US and Europe live in poverty.relative poverty to others in the imperial core, maybe, but not absolute poverty, which is defined internationally, I think as something like living on less than $2.15 per person, per day a day (as of 2022)
>>2570228hard disagree. you should do things even if you don't expect them to succeed, rather than declare you have already succeeded, and use them as an excuse not to do things. continuing to try even after demoralizing failure is the foundation of practical experience. having low expectations is the foundation of realism. people have unrealistic expectations, lofty unachievable goals, and give up after facing very little adversity. a person can fight even in a battle where they expect they might die.
>>2570216>in a matter of months, the same people who lauded student encampments as the peak of Palestine solidarity are now celebrating a mayor who rewarded the police commissioner who cracked the skulls of these protesters.actually existing pessimism (realistic, admitting we have a lot more work to do in an uphill battle)
>Honestly I think Trump is just a dullard and Mamdani is extremely charismatic and convinced Donald's goofy ass that actually social democracy is good.actually existing optimism (naive, declaring we have already won because mamdani did the 100 speechcraft meme on trump)
>>2570230>rather than declare you have already succeeded, and use them as an excuse not to do thingsI didn't say or imply anything like that. On the contrary I think optimism is a reason to fight even harder. People are a lot more likely to struggle if they think they can win.
>>2570216I fucking swear Nerdeen is a Zionist plant.
>>2570237>declaring we have already wonHow did I declare that we won? I just said that Mamdani seems to have convinced Trump of the reasonability of his positions. Even if it's true it doesn't negate the necessity of revolutionary struggle, just that it may lead to an easing of enemy pressure in one area of that struggle (electoralism and reform).
>>2570176sliwa is one of the more amusing characters i've seen in politics in a while
not quite '16 don but up therer
>>2570224when has pessimism ever accomplished anything? communism is an ideology of hope, not one of defeat.
>>2570207Yep. NATOism is the patron of Latin American Counter-revolutionaries, Slavic neo-nazis, African comprador bourgeoisie, Zionist fascists, Guomindang revanchists, Hong-Kong liberals, Japanese and South Korean toadies, Cuban and Venezuelan gusanos and golpistas, and even as early as 1918 literally invaded Russia by way of Siberia to kill the Bolsheviks in their cradle.
On the few occasions America has aided revolutionary forces instead of reactionary forces since 1917, it was for purely opportunistic and imperialist reasons, but that barely matters, because the amount of time America has aided counter revolutionary and reactionary forces has been far more numerous.
>>2570242>How did I declare that we won? I just said that Mamdani seems to have convinced Trump of the reasonability of his positionTrump isn't "convinced" of anything except whatever he thinks helps him and his family. Why be naive?
>>2570246>when has pessimism ever accomplished anything? communism is an ideology of hope, not one of defeat.Let me clarify. Pure pessimism accomplishes nothing. "Pessimism of the expectations, optimism of the willpower" is closer to what I'm advocating. You keep fighting even if you are objectively doomed. My point is that being doomed is not an excuse to stop fighting, but also thinking everything is OK when it definitely isn't is a very bad way to fight because it hampers your strategy and tactics with unrealistic expectations. Fighting consists of setting very short term goals and pursuing those relentlessly, but if those goals are tainted with optimism you will rush stupidly into obstacles you pretended didn't exist. When holding a compass, and walking North, you don't just look at the compass and walk North with blind optimism, you look around you and make sure you're not about to fall into a swamp or roll off a cliff.
>>2570250>Guomindang revanchists,isn't KMT today in favour of good relations with PRC while the DPP libs are the ones who are in favour of rabid war? everything else i agree with.
>>2570244i find sliwa funnier than 2016 trump because he comes with far fewer consequences but is also just objectively a funnier and better person. and that doesn't mean i don't regard him as somewhat reactionary. i just respect him because he has actually put his skin in the game, been stabbed, been shot, doesn't mind appearing with the rabble and speaking with them. trump is just a catty pedophile billionaire who occasionally drops a zinger.
>>2570259yeah this is true i only call ROC gumoindang revanchists because that is how they started out in 1949 but the real life situation is more nuanced than my poetic phrasing admits.
>>2570241you can't say how she's wrong, you can only accuse her of being a disguised enemy
goofy ahh country
>>2570288ha! You just don't understand 5d chess, these votes were put forward by china and russia to make a political point, so we JUST HAD to vote against it and make ourselves look like irredeemable monsters to the entire planet
this is what was unironically argued when we voted against combatting nazism, racism, and xenophobia in 2020 and 2022 >>2570242that's a lot of assumptions for stuff mamdani hasn't said.
the only thing said, without a push was:
THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN PARTY. >>2570216Bro just let mamdani cook, is he good is he bad is he more good than bad is he a sell out? We dont fucking know yet, why did we lose with him winning?
>>2570298Isn't this true of basically every country with a functioning SocDem party(i.e. most countries)?
>>2570298no, you don't understand, it's just
realpolitik … umm what did you expect zohran to do, kill trump? ummm i know you weren't saying that but it's clearly implied so i get to accuse you of saying that. what so are you saying total burger death? are you saying kill all burger babies? are you saying we should actually do revolutionary realpolitik instead of reformist "realpolitik"? ha! how navie of you! how defeatist of you!
>>2570298What should /ourguy/ do if he gets elected?
>>2570298Reminder btw that Zohran's campaign managers, Fight Agency, also managed Fetterman's campaign, and are managing Platner's campaign. Fight Agency's explicit goal is to use working class aesthetics to get people voting democrat again. It's Sheepdog: The Agency.
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