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>>2568993Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchet I have the same tattoo as Peter Hegseth
man what the fuck
>>2569814Damn. Now you have no choice but develop a disturbing and uniquely embedded hatred of women. Also need to start drinking a fifth of vodka every 8 hours to stay alive
>>2569816Trump would have glazed mao the same way he glazes Putin. All this is just game recognize game. Politics is more than just "unga bunga" and "fuck you we're enemies fight to the death". If you're too stupid to understand that, then there's a reason you're coping and seething with resentment on leftypol instead of actually having motion irl to change things.
Fuck Cuckdani
Nazbol gang status?
>>2569784>I think I'm fairly well-liked. I'll admit I could have brought up the recent merger as a point of contention, maybe I can mention that another time.So I think its important to keep a few points in mind: what (if anything) are you hoping to accomplish by discussing communism or socialism with your coworkers? Secondly, don't try to "convert" them.
What I mean by the latter point is this. Lots of people, but especially conservatives, have a quiet terror at the thought of having their identity overwritten, and that's how "new" ideals and "new" ideologies can be presented to them. What they're worried about is that they wont recognize themselves, that they'll "lose" part of themselves.
What I tend to do when I discuss Socialism with others, especially conservatives, is try to keep an easygoing air about me. I'm not the wild-eyed ideologue that wants to "brainwash" them or whatever, I just say in an almost laughing tone: "Ah shucks, guess you got me, I'm a dyed in the wool red." I think "Socialist" is an easier term to start with than going for the big-C "Communist"; which isn't to say be duplicitous, not at all! But start from the term that has already softly broken Capitalism's hegemony.
From there, the important thing is to present your case in a way where you aren't actively hostile to them or attacking their presumed ideals, but instead focusing on two things: love for community and coworkers, and a shared struggle against the upper class. Start with politicians, move on to some of the most noxious members of the capitalist class. Build that enmity towards the capitalist class using language they're familiar with: "Y'know you've got us busting our asses full-time here, and I'd like to say we work hard and then miles away from here you've got some guy on Wall Street who does what exactly? He eats out at 5 star restaurants, does a line of blow, then moves a bunch of money around. The hell does he make? What's he actually doing? Why's it worth a six figure salary?"
Invite questions, invite curiosity, be someone that gently guides people to class consciousness.
>>2569821we have to ruthlessy criticize the real movement which abolishes the present state of state things, and we have to abolish the present state of having to ruthless critique the way we abolish the present state of things, and …
>>2569832this is like saying "bolsheviks lost. Mensheviks lost. SRs Lost. Cadets won." in March 1917, except it's not even that cool because our tsar hasn't abdicated and our Kerensky hasn't ascended to power in a provisional government.
>>2569834truth nuke
>>2569830>Nazbol gang status?idk but i do think it's a weird twist of fate that trump met with mamdani the same week f*entes met with h*z
>>2569833Good advice. I was just dismayed by the anticommunist tropes on display. If I had any goal in mind it would be possibly forming a union.
>>2569840The most GOATED clip of all time lmao
>>2569835acp = bolsheviks
psl = mensheviks
cpusa = SRs
dsa = cadets
shit analogy
gem in log
>>2569842ok whatever, swap them around to your licking, my point wasn't to perfectly analogize each group
>>2569844no, i'm just wondering why your first instinct was to think the acp is like the bolsheviks
>>2569837If you're dismayed with anti-Communism, why are you talking to one of the most devoted anti-Communists on here?
>>2569848You're such a fucking loser lmao. You're the REAL communist mhm. You're so COOL and so much more BASED than the literal member of CPUSA.
>>2569850"C"PUSA is a revisionist shithole of a party which is almost solely responsible for the lack of any proletarian movement in America.
They're also a far right organization that openly collaborates with America's fascist government and has provided material support to the Democratic Party, an extreme reactionary organization which must be liquidated in it's entirety if there is any hope of a genuine proletarian movement in America.
>>2569852Shut the fuck up you fucking retard lmao. Get over yourself and read Marx for once
>>2569852There's literally a Marx quote like 5 replies into this thread that's almost directly calling people like you a retard but you're too self righteous to see it
>>2569853I've read Marx, now you should go read Lenin. The state must be smashed by the armed body of the proletariat, and it must be done within our lifetimes or we are facing human extinction due to climate change.
Do you think begging the Democratic party to save you is going to work?
If so, you are not a Communist and never will be.
>>2569856>The statethe bourgeois state
read lenin, but fr this time
>>2569840I don't disagree with the well deserved condescension. But IMO much of the latest "overconfidence" and extroversion are a product of media and propaganda exacerbating that cultural trend where it's present for profit.
The ideal consumer of media is some kind of Aspergers person autistically dedicated to the social mechanics and with zero self-awreness.
>>2569858I actually think it's OK to be encouraging and kind to children, the US tendency towards "participation awards" notwithstanding. There's a balance.
>>2569856Midwit take. Lenin would call you a larping dumbass at most, but usually just ignore people like you. If you were around in 1900s you'd criticize Lenin for the NEP and all the deals he made with the enemy in order to win. America isn't Russia, and the people who tried to copy Lenin exactly failed miserably here for that exact reason.
People like you are myopic and completely ignorant of the real history of, and unique requirements of socialism in America so much that you make us look like NEET autists who can't read a room to save their lives.
>>2569856
> The state must be smashed by the armed body of the proletariat, and it must be done within our lifetimes or we are facing human extinction due to climate change.indisputable truth nuke that will nonetheless be reported to mods and responded to with puke nukes.
>>2569861You are simply not a Communist. This is why you say mealy mouthed things like "socialism in America" instead of proletarian revolution and anti-imperialism.
You don't want to overthrow Imperialism, you want to reform it, to purge it of it's most self-destructive elements and stabilize it so it can rule and exploit the rest of the world forever. This is why you provide material support to Imperialist parties like the Democratic Party. You are an Imperialist, and an Imperialist can never be a Communist.
>>2569864>Literally ad hominemMhm sure bud
>>2569861The best case scenario for your side is that MAYBE in 50 years you will have a large enough bloc of voters to give yourselves free healthcare in a dead world.
The more realistic scenario is that you continue to be an irrelevant caucus of the Democratic Party that trades it's power and credibility for absolutely nothing in return. You provide material support to Imperialism in the hopes that some crumbs will fall off the table even as the entire house burns down around you.
I want to put the fire out. We are not the same.
>>2569856Things are only going to get tougher, no doubt. But when the USA eventually collapses, you aren't having a revolution. The winners of the cold war will crush the USA socialists and join the powerful bourgeoisie who just managed the abdication of the world hegemon, to do to the USA what it did to the eastern bloc.
The EU will keep social democracy but you, USAnos? You'll just get half a century of foreigner mandated kleptocracy and balkanization. Which will still improve your material conditions so you won't do shit about it. And since a century of hegemonic propaganda has left you with little else for a culture, you will also get mindfucked to high heavens with the ease of ex-soviet naivete about liberal scams. You will LOVE the Dengism and become #1 fans of China.
>>2569864Backing you up on this:
> Obviously, out of such enormous superprofits (since they are obtained over and above the profits which capitalists squeeze out of the workers of their “own” country) it is possible to bribe the labour leaders and the upper stratum of the labour aristocracy. And that is just what the capitalists of the “advanced” countries are doing: they are bribing them in a thousand different ways, direct and indirect, overt and covert.
>This stratum of workers-turned-bourgeois, or the labour aristocracy, who are quite philistine in their mode of life, in the size of their earnings and in their entire outlook, is the principal prop of the Second International, and in our days, the principal social (not military) prop of the bourgeoisie. For they are the real agents of the bourgeoisie in the working-class movement, the labour lieutenants of the capitalist class, real vehicles of reformism and chauvinism. In the civil war between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie they inevitably, and in no small numbers, take the side of the bourgeoisie, the “Versaillese” against the “Communards.” […]
>Private property based on the labour of the small proprietor, free competition, democracy, all the catchwords with which the capitalists and their press deceive the workers and the peasants are things of the distant past. Capitalism has grown into a world system of colonial oppression and of the financial strangulation of the overwhelming majority of the population of the world by a handful of “advanced” countries. And this “booty” is shared between two or three powerful world plunderers armed to the teeth (America, Great Britain, Japan), who are drawing the whole world into their war over the division of their booty. - Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism, PREFACE TO THE FRENCH AND GERMAN EDITIONS
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/pref02.htm >>2569779I was trying to point out your saying universally common crimes is specifically reflective of America is why some people might call you third worldist. My being dismissive is reflective of years on imageboards and I shouldn't have treated you like an idiot.
>>2569781After many years of reading such stories I've become callous. Disgust is perfect legitimate reaction.
>>2569856>we are facing human extinction due to climate change.Billions will die from disruption of food supplies but how would total extinction happen?
>>2569871You have no arguments, I see.
>>2569872>Billions will die from disruption of food supplies but how would total extinction happen?trvth nvke. billions will die and who remains will larp as iron age warlords in the ruins of high tech civ. i saw it in a dream i had while on LSD 10 years ago.
>>2569873WO BU XIANG ZAI DONG MEI GUI REN LE!
>>2569872>My being dismissive is reflective of years on imageboards and I shouldn't have treated you like an idiot.ok i'm sorry too
>>2569870Shocking how few people on here have read Lenin.
>>2569881Yeah she's been getting sued by Brigette Macron for like a year because she's obsessed with non-stop accusing Brigette of being trans for no reason lol. True schizo energy
>>2569814what the fuck. He's doing the hanussem thing like hitler
>>2569891there was a true anon episode about this and its not just that she obsessed with brigete macron being a man. but she believes macron is part of some luciferian sabbatarian frankist cabal that belives the trans is the universal being that transcends genders or some shit.
>>2569913Americans will sleep easier tonight knowing that the peace president Donald Trump is protecting them from Venezuela.
>>25699173-day-anti-narco operation.
>>2569840It’s less of a dig when you realize donkeys dont have the symbolism in China as the U.S.
>>2569937What symbolism do donkeys have in America vs China?
>>2569938the glowies did outsourcing. even they cant escape the market.
William Brooke Joyce (24 April 1906 – 3 January 1946), nicknamed Lord Haw-Haw, was an American-born fascist and Nazi propaganda broadcaster during the Second World War. After moving from New York to Ireland and subsequently to England, Joyce became a member of Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists (BUF) from 1932, before finally moving to Germany at the outset of the war where he took Nazi German citizenship in 1940.[2
Joyce recorded his final broadcast on 30 April 1945, during the Battle of Berlin.[3
https://www.earthstation1.com/WWIIAudio/Germany/HawHaw'sLastBroadcast.mp3>>2569821Why do MLs keep posting quotes from Marx that reveal they themselves are faggot liberals?
>>2569850>You’re more COOL and BASED than a real (unconfirmed) member of a micro-party that was last relevant nearly a century ago and may still be stuffed to the gills with fedsYup
>>2569913Even if the USA nuked Venezuela the "intentions" would have been "good". That's all that matters to liberal morality, however flimsy or transparently cynical the pretenses.
>>2569853Oh where was his passage on sucking democrat cock and collaborating with the US gov to save capitalism?
>>2569964>Kill yourself for accurately describing stalinism Okay
Faggot
Nta
Ah yes
Another thread for burger faggots to argue why getting welfare through the democratic party is le revolutionary program Lenin prescribed and 100% identical to the worker’s party participating in a multi-party system to delegitimize said parliamentary system; which definitely isn’t pathetically outmoded in the 21st Century as proven by the utter faggotry of the worker’s and socialist parties that chose to legally participate in the actual non-two party genuine multi-party electoral systems over the course of the postwar 20th Century
Everyone in usapol should kill themselves fr
>>2569968>Everyone in usapol should kill themselves frThe only correct part of your ridiculous post.
>>2569968 (are) (a) (retard)
>getting welfare through the democratic party is le revolutionary program Lenin prescribedI type like that and have said that 12 times in this thread.
>>2569861>we are le differentthere it is
>>2569891everybody is gay for Brigitte.
i guess that joke's outdated now>>2569912lol flag
>>2569978>“I would hire this person if I were dead set on crafting Soviet style centralized control regime, instituting repressive policies and destroying the economy,” Very interesting
>>2569978The porkies really hated her at the FTC. Really think her appointment caused a lot of them them to throw in with Trump last year.
>>2569938>South Asia>NigeriaClickbait farming to make money. You can't make much but it goes further in those places.
>>2569840>>2569840If this is legit, then the Chinese have become as arrogant and patronizing as the Americans were to them in the 19th century.
How the Mamdami and Trump conversation went:
>So, invade Venezuela?
<Yes sir, Hail ᴉuᴉlossnW
>I love social democracy
>>2569986MTG getting out the Trump train cause now latinos hate her lmao
I am under criminal investigation for allegedly sending a death threat about Donald Trump's children. Thing is…I live in motherfucking Europe. They busted my place and took my computer and phone. Ridiculous and complete horseshit.
Trump can suck my dick from the back, Bubba style.
Tell his kids I said hi.
>>2570009Let me guess: Bongistan?
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