Can we talk about the new revelations about Noam Chomsky and Jeffrey Epstein?
>The prominent linguist and philosopher Noam Chomsky called it a “most valuable experience” to have maintained “regular contact” with Jeffrey Epstein, who by then had long been convicted of soliciting prostitution from a minor, according to emails released earlier in November by US lawmakers.
>Such comments from Chomsky, or attributed to him, suggest his association with Epstein – who officials concluded killed himself in jail in 2019 while awaiting trial on federal sex-trafficking charges – went deeper than the occasional political and academic discussions the former had previously claimed to have with the latter.
>Chomsky, 96, had also reportedly acknowledged receiving about $270,000 from an account linked to Epstein while sorting the disbursement of common funds relating to the first of his two marriages, though the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) professor has insisted not “one penny” came directly from the infamous financier.
>The emails disclosed on 12 November by the Republican members of the US House oversight committee generally detailed the correspondence Epstein had with political, academic and business luminaries, including the Bill Clinton White House’s treasury secretary Larry Summers and Steve Bannon, the longtime ally of Donald Trump. Further, they reveal Epstein and Chomsky were close enough to discuss musical interests and even potential vacations.
>Perhaps the most telling of the Chomsky-related documents in question was a letter of support for Epstein attributed to Chomsky with the salutation “to whom it may concern”. It is not dated, but it contains a typed signature with Chomsky’s name and citing his position as a University of Arizona laureate professor, a role he began in 2017, as first reported by the Massachusetts news outlet WBUR.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/22/noam-chomsky-jeffrey-epstein-ties-emailsA couple of things:
1. How could any principled anarchist be friends with a billionaire?
2. I get that Chomsky radicalized a lot of American Gen Xers and Millennials. Anarchists in the 90s and 2000s looked up to him as a god-man of sorts. He wrote many books that have become classics among the Gen X and Millennial American left. But how will this stain his reputation? Will he be cancelled? His books burned or thrown in the trash?
3. Is this a case of "live long enough to be the villain" or was Chomsky always sus?
4. How do you think Michael Parenti and Slavoj Zizek are taking this news?
>>2604398Lad if you view Marxism as a science you cant be going on and on about how everyone who disagrees with you is an immoral child molester rapist. This is not scientific temper, this is religious moralism. Quantum physicians dont go around saying that whoever disagrees with their specific interpretation of the space time curvature is an animal torture or some nonsense like that!
>>2604414In fact i think this position is rather hypocritical considering how many sexual and harassnent scandals happened in tankie spaces, be it with trotskyite microsects or leninist influencers on twitter
>>2604415How are trotskyite groups tankie spaces? Who are these supposed "leninist" twitter influencers? Get outta here man
>>2604417>Marxism-Leninism-Trotskyism is not Tankie, unlike Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism Also on the matter of tankie influencers i still remember when a grooming scandal happened with socdoneleft and one involving a minor celebrity that ppl here probably wont recognize, but again my point is that when you say shit about how all of the people who disagreed with you especially fellow leftists are all secretly evil rapists you are not being scientific, much less materialist, you are adopting a religious zealot's mentality
>>2604414>Quantum physicians dont go around saying that whoever disagrees with their specific interpretation of the space time curvature is an animal torture or some nonsense like that!If you actually hang out with Quantum physicists you'd know they do hurl wild accusations to their rivals.
Science is not a libtard-reddit reunion, science is a bloody war. Read Lenin.
>>2604424They dont do that uygha, i've read books about the Bergson-Epstein time debate, you can debate about the limits of empirical bourgeois science all you want but you're gonna be clowned if you call anyone disagreeing with you a Jeffrey Epstein. Fuck you can read what Marx thought about Adam Smith too, he didn't think that Smith was an evil landlord monster because the latter believed that capitalism was caused by private investments and legal uniformity. This is not something that online leftists are capable of doing apparently
>>2604421Yeah it's not lmao, are you dumb? Socdoneleft is just some reformist cuck, he's even less of a tankie that trots are.
>but again my point is that when you say shit about how all of the people who disagreed with you especially fellow leftists are all secretly evil rapists you are not being scientific, much less materialist, you are adopting a religious zealot's mentalityNobody cares about your pearl clutching
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Wtf is this? Ain't clicking on that shit
>>2604450Yes, nobody cares about this, until some anarchists defame (you) as a rapist child molester because you dont think we should immediately aim for the dismantlement of any state structures
>>2604421False SA claims are one thing that will hurt the US left. The liberal reaction against so much mysogony has made even an accusation of SA just as bad as being found guilty. If you want to wreck any movement find an organizer that is doing well then accuse them of a laundry list of vague sex related charges
Bill Cosby had to put sedatives in women's drinks.
Noam Chomsky simply spoke normally.
>>2604414My brief claim was a psychological one about the kinds of people who are anti-Stalin.
I was not making a point about their worldviews or arguments against marxism, the political economy of the USSR, etc. being invalid on the basis of their degenerate behaviour or psyche. That would be an informal fallacy.
>>2604415The form of my claim is something like "If they hold anti-Stalin views, then they have higher likely of being depraved/degenerate."
Given its just a conditional and not a biconditional, the converse isn't necessarily true.
>>2604502Interestingly the original writer of Lolita was a Russian liberal, who opposed both the tsarism and bolshevism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_NabokovAnother example consistent with "If they hold anti-Stalin views, then they have higher likely of being depraved/degenerate."
>>2605686🙄 Lolita is not in any way a defense of pedophilia.
>>2604363bourgeois accuse beria of pedophilia
but bourgeois are proven pedophilia
>>2606675lolita is pedo garbage
>>2606675'Hey so this books sounds like an erotic pedo fan fiction but since it gives the thumbs down on pedophilia, it's ok!'
>>2606675Uh huh, nabokov was shaking his head while writing it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qVtwVcYbz7k >>2604398Beria was a prolific child rapist
>>2570895I hate to hand it to him but at least he isn't a pedo
>>2606783>khruschev and montefore said so!!!!Lmao
>>2606818>>2606931t. didn't even read any of the cited sources
t. intentionally lying to cover for a pedophile
>>2606761>>2606687>>2606693Thank you comrades for backing me up.
I actually have never seen the clip posted in
>>2606693 . Intellectually its to be expected, but emotionally, by jove is the clip damning.
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>>2606675Yeah and 1984 is definitely not an attack on the Soviet Union and planned economies 😂🤣😂
Now that both anarchism (chomsky) and marxism leninism (beria) are proved to be pedophile ideologies can we all agree to become trotskyists?
>>2608602>as far as I knowWho is that?
>>2608615What evidence is there that Epstein was a pimp?
Really recontextualizes the fact he wrote back to me when I sent him a letter as a child.
So glad I outgrew my anarkiddy phase.
>>2608875>as a childNo wonder he wrote you back
Jewish niggers
"We have to oppose AES lilke the USSR we can trafficl their girls into my anarchist grooming commune." - Chomsky.
Ive been watching old clips of him in light of this. Maybe he was always fulç of shit.
>>2613684Modberg is gonna freak
>>2571035>his response was it was actually "thats none of your business" lmao
>>2614666So being a compatible leftoid superstar was just his personal indulgence?
Imagine you are head of an academic department like anthropology or whatever and you get an invite by a rich guy who is eager to donate and who also knows other rich guys. He tells you that he is a bit of a renaissance man and into "the big ideas", whatever these are. Why, just recently he saw something about ancient aliens building the pyramids, and isn't that interesting. You nod politely and just think about the big bag of money you want for your colleagues.
You can all whine how that is disappointing behavior but this is a nothingburger and you are all retarded.
>>2615335The fact Chomsky was friends with a known convicted pedophile and billionaire is enough for me to believe this is not a nothingburger but a very real somethingburger.
>>2570962Wtf I'm an anarkiddie now
>>2600880Is that Fidel Castro?
>>2571465Manufacturing consent is the only useful work of his imo and even then there are other leftists that essentially say the same thing. Chomsky always rubbed me the wrong the way for how intertwined he was with the bourgeoisie.
Perhaps I'm being romantic but the best leftist philosophers either partake in revolutionary activity or lose their minds and commit suicide from the pressure of living in a capitalist society and not being able to do anything about it, ~Mark Fisher, Debord, etc
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