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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Ghetto Bird Edition


🏈 💵Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich and the pedophile Hitlerite-Zionist clique of the American bourgeoisie and its iron grip upon the greatest bigliest country McGod™ ever gave McMan™ on the face of the McEarth™🌭 🍔

>Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.

<Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

📺 Glowie News 📺
(sponsored by the Burger Eagle Freedom Institute (formerly USAID))
• CNN: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
• MSNBC: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
• FOX: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
• Bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us

🏚️ Local News 🏚️
https://www.50states.com/ce/

✊Live Protest Streams✊
https://woke.net/

🏝️ Epstein's Client List🏝️
https://epsteinsblackbook.com/

🇮🇱 Track Zionazis (apparently ShareBlue backed, gross)🇮🇱
https://www.trackaipac.com/

📖Read, Burgga, Read! 📖
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXUFLW8t2sntNn5jQO8vF7ai9x0fna3PV

Previous thread: >>2571257


Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trolls
Not reporting is bourgeois
Violators will be launched from trebuchet
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>>2572982
i never said white people bad
i never said moralism good
i never said individualism good
you are making up a guy in your head to get mad at
all i did was notice that your first instinct upon hearing about two white people gearing up to rape and enslave haitians was to cry about black crime statistics like a typical /pol/ack. You then proceeded to shit your diapers in a number of new and innovative ways.

>>2572984
Rent free in your tiny microcephalic skull

>>2572983
i'm making fun of antisocial worms who have no hatred for reactionaries but infinite condescension for the people rightly disgusted by reactionaries. Being disgusted by reactionaries is not moralism.

>>2572984
Nothing wrong with shitting in diapers.

>>2572986
Yeah? And? So?
>waaah reactionaries are disgusting waaaah
Okay?

>>2572966
>religious creationist denying evolution and pretending to be leftist.
Our closest relatives the Chimpanzees have warbands and commit genocide. They also take bribes funny enough.

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>>2572990
Why even reference those monkeys. Humans do that too

>>2572990
there is no metaphysical "human nature", to acknowledge that things can change is to acknowledge evolution. meanwhile you insist humans MVST act like war pigs forever because of some metaphysical "hvman natvre". that is retarded.

>>2572986
>muh social norms
You are reactionary though

>>2572995
>hey leftypol, these two chuds were planning on enslaving and raping a bunch of people
<uggggggh i'm so tired of black people whining about white crime

you want people to forget this is how the conversation started

>>2572994
>must
Voluntarist. You have no free will, btw

>>2572996
There is no conversation. Its all in your head.

>>2572997
>>2572998
nice trolling

>>2572999
>muh trolling
>trolling is le bad
Trolling is a spook.

Materialist explanation for the ideology of racism?

>>2572938
It's Imperialism that makes America particularly evil. No other nation can come close to American Imperialism. America is the absolute pillar of the global system of neo-liberal Capitalism. It has to be destroyed in order for this present system to be overthrown.

>>2572993
The idea is we are not alone in how we behave. Insiting humans are the only animals that have no natural inclinations is wrong.
>>2572994
>there is no metaphysical "human nature"
Never mind our physical brains shaped by billions of years of evolution.
>meanwhile you insist humans MVST act like war pigs forever because of some metaphysical "hvman natvre". that is retarded.
Never said we must act like that forever or that it is good. However since we do act this way now it makes sense for us to use this to actually win. Killing the bourg is the only way to win. If you think singing at them will solve the issue you've watched too many children's cartoons.

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>>2572829
i hate when people use the photo of that wax figure of marx. it doesn't look like him.

>>2573004
Didnt they use his bones to make it?

>>2573001
it's post-hoc ideology, where you subjugate another people economically, politically, socially, and then make up the mythology of their sub-humanity or inhumanity to justify the continuation of that state of affairs. You point to the result of the unenviable conditions they live in as evidence of their inferiority. It would be like if I went to your house, tied you up, smeared shit everywhere, then said "wow, what a dump you live in, you're basically an animal. you aren't even strong enough to free yourself and clean up!"

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>>2573005
idk, maybe, but bones ain't everything.


>>2573003
>Never mind our physical brains shaped by billions of years of evolution.
yeah that means we're changing constantly, meaning there is no metaphysical "human nature". Change is the only constant.

Reminder the original context of the conversation was felix doing his usual "everyone is collaborators bit" and rather than rejecting that and pointing out that most people are cooperative, full of empathy, and not particularly prone to rape and murder (only a small percentage of people ever do that, and you are much more likely to die from a heart attack or car crash than from murder), you doubled down on his stupid bullshit and said "actually all of humanity is bloodthirsty warpigs, it's literally our nature, because muh chimpanzees"

that's stupid! yeah we're related to chimpanzees, I'm not some creationist, retard. I'm saying humans aren't that vicious, and even if we were there is no eternal physical law forcing us to be that way forever.


>>2573010
Trvke.
>>2573003
War and its atrocities are a product of class society.

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>>2573006
Your explanation is too voluntarist and conspiratorial as if there are clever priests and ideologues making up ideologies to trick people rather than ideologies being determined products of history and material conditions

Ugh, guys, ugh, America like, is accelerating, dude.

>>2573015
it's both. it starts off as a product of history and material conditions, but then maintaining it becomes deliberate. The slave owner or ethnic supremacist isn't unaware of what they're doing or why they're doing it, or what will happen to them if the circumstances which benefit them suddenly came to an end.

>>2573002
America is the current hegemon but it's not unique. Bourgeois can hijack any country, region or city and make it the center if they want. Pretending there is one single weakness in Capitalism and it is only America is short sighted at best.
However I don't think you are being short sighted but are using motivated reasoning. You need America to be evil incarnate and will find any reason. Notice how you started talking about Americans the individual people being especially evil because treats and now you've switched to America the country being especially evil because imperialism. Seems like you will come up with a completely new reason why America has to be evil. This is how religious based reasoning works. You already have the conclusion and are making up anything to reach it.

>>2573010
>only a small percentage of people ever do that,
That's all it takes. I would say they are evenly distributed throughout the human population. Besides the main point I was making is that Americans aren't magically more evil given the track record of everyone else around the world and throughout history.
> even if we were there is no eternal physical law forcing us to be that way forever.
Fine our nature is not stagnant and humans will change over time. But that change hasn't happened yet.

>>2573012
>War and its atrocities are a product of class society.
Do chimps have class society?

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>>2573024
>Fine our nature is not stagnant and humans will change over time. But that change hasn't happened yet.
It's happening all the time! Also evolution isn't always slow. You sometimes have long periods of evolutionary stagnation, followed by brief periods of rapid change. Also unlike other animals, we are developing technologies to influence our own species-being. To Marx, who I agree with, we have no "human nature" but an ever-changing species-being.

Guys, do ants have a class society?

>>2573030
ants have a class-like (caste) society, but it’s biological, not social.

Queen(s): reproduction
Workers: foraging, nursing, nest maintenance
Soldiers: defense (in some species)
Males: short-lived, only for mating

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>>2573024
No, America is unique because it is a purely bourgeois republic which does not have in it the remnants of class struggle. It was founded, from the beginning, as a bourgeois republic and it remains one today. It is unique because it essentially cannot be invaded, it cannot suffer from the same sort of crises that have plagued the rest of the world. America must be destroyed to overthrow the present system, and America must be destroyed from within if it is to be destroyed at all.

The VAST majority of Americans will oppose the destruction of the American state, but it doesn't matter. We have to do it anyway. We might have 20% of the population on our side, if we're lucky. But if we can at least erode the authority of the government to such a point where it must abandon Imperialism and focus it's energy inwards, we have won the war. Neo-liberal capitalism would collapse and fall apart. This would allow us to BEGIN the process of organizing the majority of the people to our cause, but America MUST be destroyed first.

>President Donald Trump recently silenced a female journalist by telling her, “Quiet, Piggy” as she asked him about the Epstein files. The moment has been captured on camera and will now forever remain on the internet. However, despite clear proof of the incident happening. Trump’s daughter-in-law, Lara Trump told Bill Maher on his Club Random that Trump did not say any such thing.
Lol, vid???

>>2572841
FACT CHECKED ✅

>>2573036
>The moment has been captured on camera and will now forever remain on the internet. However, despite clear proof of the incident happening. Trump’s daughter-in-law, Lara Trump told Bill Maher on his Club Random that Trump did not say any such thing.
Was this written by an ESLLM? How do you fuck up this bad?

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>>2573040
Of course it was written by jeets. It always fucking is.

>>2573034
>No, America is unique because it is a purely bourgeois republic
> It was founded, from the beginning, as a bourgeois republic and it remains one today.
Capitalist society, on a national level, takes the form of teh bourgeois republic
> which does not have in it the remnants of class struggle
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>It is unique because it essentially cannot be invaded,
I doubt that, but it will balkanize anyway from its own internal contradictions. It's really 50 small countries in an unstable relationship. Also there are so many diaspora communities now (largely as a byproduct of American imperialism) driving internal changes to the culture of each state. This is why you have supremacist reactionaries coping and seething about Somalis in Minneapolis and Muslims in Dearborn. They want everything to stay WASP forever, but it won't. America might not get "invaded" militarily but it will change from within and is not a stable unchanging entity.
> it cannot suffer from the same sort of crises that have plagued the rest of the world.
It can. America isn't some invulnerable thing. It can be bombed, sanctioned, couped, and embargoed just like it has done to other countries. But much more likely, is it instead will suffer from crises it has brought on itself, and in fact it already is.
> America must be destroyed to overthrow the present system, and America must be destroyed from within if it is to be destroyed at all.
America is destroying itself daily and will continue to be destroy itself because America is its own gravedigger. America is a suicidal entity, but it is also a changing entity.
>The VAST majority of Americans will oppose the destruction of the American state, but it doesn't matter.
They will "oppose it" in sentiment but carry it out in deed, whether they realize it or not. Someone posted a clip of a reactionary saying that the American regime must be destroyed. Yet he also says "America First." It seems we are reaching a point where both reactionaries and revolutionaries yearn for America's downfall, and only reformists and conservatives want to maintain the stability of the existing system despite its inherently self-destructive tendencies.
>We have to do it anyway. We might have 20% of the population on our side, if we're lucky.
Please, it's more like 5%. But it doesn't matter anyway, because even the reactionaries, who are a much larger camp, will blunder their way into destruction. Nothing destroys a nation faster than its reactionary nationalists, as we saw with Ukraine recently, and Nazi Germany less recently. They make enemies of everyone and are too incompetent to manage all the fights they start.
>But if we can at least erode the authority of the government to such a point where it must abandon Imperialism and focus it's energy inwards, we have won the war.
This has been happening in slow motion for decades. America used to do things like the Korean and Vietnam war. It used to pull off coups in countries like Iran and Indonesia. Lately failure rate of American coup attempts is much higher than its success rate, and even its succesfull coup in Bolivia was quickly rolled back. China is bailing third world countries out of their IMF debt, undermining America's structural adjustment programs that it imposes on the periphery. America's flriting with an invasion of Venezuela, and I suspect that it will be a catastrophic failure and huge embarassment. America is still capable of doing a lot of damage, but it is severely weakened, and its internal politics are more unstable than ever.
> Neo-liberal capitalism would collapse and fall apart. This would allow us to BEGIN the process of organizing the majority of the people to our cause, but America MUST be destroyed first.
I think it will be destroyed internally either way. It's just a question of whether reactionaries or revolutionaries are better organized in the aftermath.

>>2573029
Hope you are right but I am skeptical given our current state.
>>2573034
Was America always a pure bourgeois republic? Didn't it start as a backwards Monarchist colony with some theocratic slave society mixed in?
Also seems like American hegemony is breaking down as we speak, no civil war required. Years of lead scenario is the more likely as it crashes and burns.

>>2573044
>Was America always a pure bourgeois republic? Didn't it start as a backwards Monarchist colony with some theocratic slave society mixed in?
Cockshott weighs in on America's "modes of production" here

So what is the best way to destroy America and how do we pitch this plan to Amerikkkan treatlerites?

>>2573043
>>2573044
Your strategies of "sit and do nothing" are undermined by climate change though. Climate change poses an existential threat to civilization as we know it and not only is it caused mostly by Capitalism, it can only be undone with Communism.

We have to do this within our lifetimes or we will see an extinction event the likes of which hasn't been seen since the Cretaceous.

>>2573048
Climate change it is what will finally destroy kkkrapitalism.

I think the world is literally too stupid to be saved. Communism was always a pipe dream.

>>2573050
Yeah, and it will take human civilization as we know it down with it.

>>2573052
Human civilization = kkkrapitakism. It needs to be destroyed

>>2573048
>Your strategies of "sit and do nothing" are undermined by climate change though.
I didn't say sit and do nothing. I said America is its own gravedigger. Go take a nap, cranky man.

>>2573051
well first of all, the world is going to have plate tectonics come to an end, at which point the electromagnetic field of the earth will be lost, causing solar radiation to kill all life on the surface. Then, long after that, the sun will go red giant and swallow the earth. But that's long after we're all dead. It's really just a matter of what we do with our time while we're here. Personally, I am a fucking idiot, so I go on imageboards when I should be sleeping.


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