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The Central District Military Court in Yekaterinburg has handed down a verdict to members of a Marxist group from Ufa. This was reported by an EAN correspondent from the courtroom.
The defendants in the case are Bashkir Communist Party deputy Dmitry Chuvilin* and his comrades: otolaryngologist Alexei Dmitriev*, pensioner Yuri Efimov*, and two volunteers who fought in Donbass in 2014-2015, fighters of the “Prizrak” battalion Pavel Matisov* and Rinat Burkeev*. Before his arrest, Matisov* was the chairman of the Ufa branch of the “Union of Donbass Volunteers.” The members of the group are accused of preparing for the violent seizure or retention of power (Article 278 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), creating a terrorist community (Article 205.4 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation), and preparing to steal weapons (Article 226 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation). In the end, the judge announced the verdict:

o Dmitry Chuvilin* — 20 years imprisonment;
o Alexey Dmitriev* — 20 years imprisonment;
o Yuri Efimov* — 18 years imprisonment;
o Pavel Matisov* — 22 years imprisonment;
o Rinat Burkeev* — 16 years imprisonment.

At the same time, an investigation is underway into the case of Left Front leader Sergei Udaltsov***. He was arrested on January 12, 2024, after publishing several posts on his Telegram channel in defense of the Ufa Marxists, which the investigation considers to be justification for terrorism.

https://eanews.ru/ekaterinburg/20251216144423/chleny-marksistskogo-kruzhka-iz-ufy-poluchili-bolshie-sroki-v-voennom-sude-ekaterinburga
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It's actually a good thing when communists get arrested on trumped up charges by a bourgeois state because something something Ukraine. I am very smart.

>>2599828
For reading a book?

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>>2599848
>>2599850
The primary objective for Russian parties both communist and capitalist is to resist NATO’s very strong belief that the collapse of the USSR can happen again for the Russian Federation. There’s little in the way of a communist future for a state that has been collapsed and its resources extracted by western imperialists.

>>2599851
You’re not very smart, because you didn’t have a point to make (fine) but you just had to anyway even if that means making something up (retarded)

>>2599855
Are they literally called “The Marxist group”?

>>2599857
And this necessitates arresting and imprisoning people for distributing Lenin's works?

ASSAD BAD! Resisting Assad was the right thing to support!


But I hasten to add that I wash my hands of the fact that only benefited Israel and the west as those redfash warned me would happen.

>>2599863
Already covered in the /ukr/ thread, it’s a misleading headline

So there is now no such thing as legal marxism in rusha

>>2599866
Yes I'm aware the police claim they were plotting to violently overthrow the state. Because as we all know the police are incapable of lying

>>2599870
Communists dont plan on overthrowing the state?

>>2599870
The irony is not lost on me that the US is full of lone gunmen thinking they’ll trigger historic change (or just get their personal beliefs some airtime) that shoot up anyone but the American bourgeoisie every day, but the concept that five guys in Russia belonging to “a Marxist group” plotting something similar is both nuts but also supportable if true, bad naughty KPRF for not overthrowing Putin now!

>>2599873
Then what does that make the CPRF?

>>2599882
Communists

>>2599882
Very clearly not ML

>>2599882
Kautskyists

>>2599885
>>2599883
>>2599884
Ah yes, the three genders

>Western leftists when other countries aren’t doing a revolution: fucking cucks and anyone excusing them is a third worldist
<Western leftists when they’re not doing a revolution: <recounts every piece of Marxist literature that states revolution is driven by conditions rather than want, even despite everyone losing their shit about AI eliminating the need for work>

>>2599887
They cannot be ML because they're in a position that ML analysis was ever set up to work with.

>>2599894
Conditions and considerations for me, absolute mandate for thee has always been the watchwords of this site

>>2599894
I dunno I just think it's not too big of an ask to not do apologia for a bourgeoisie state arresting communists but I guess I'm just a cringe westoid ultra

Like fr fr western leftists unironically seem to think revolution is primed and ready to go in Country X because they think it’s a shithole that anyone would be desperate to topple and replace with “something” “better” that is only probably and unlikely to be communism, that it doesn’t happen must be because of the people by and large being reactionary religious dictator loving twats. But by that token, it can’t happen in their neck of the woods because it’s currently too nice and convincing people against capitalism therefore is like, too hard.

>>2599900
A bordigger even

>>2599900
I don’t doubt you lack foresight, it’s just whether thinking in general is absent, that’s my concern.

>>2599901
Revolution in Russia and revolution in America are far from mutually exclusive positions. Hell I agree that if anything revolution would be easier in America in no small part because under the surface of commodities that give the artificial impression of "wealth" everything sucks. But on the other hand, Russia actually has a communist party in government unlike America so the argument could be made that it's closer to revolution than America And I think it's bad when communists get arrested for random bullshit no matter where it happens.
>but what about Ukraine?
I think that's bad too and Zelensky's a fucking cunt for banning communist parties on the grounds of them supposedly being "pro-Russian". I hope that when Ukraine's funding invariably dries up and their government falls following their loss in the war the proletariat will take the opportunity to seize control.

The whole point of this thread was that a group of Marxists were arrested by a bourgeois state for the crime of, for all intents and purposes, distributing Lenin. Claims of terrorism are completely unsubstantiated. It shouldn't be that controversial for a communist of any sort to look at that and say "hey that's bad", but apparently on leftypol it is.

Also fuck off with your
>weeeh I guess to you I’m just a cringe evil westoid ;_;
Fuck off what are you and your party in power doing so much better than the communist parties of the world that means you get to point the finger at them as traitors to the cause but unipolar imperialism being based in YOUR society is just something you’re powerless to oppose?

That’s why you’re evil, because you’re a pathetic snivelling piece of shit looking for excuses that explain why you’re the good guy of the world and the bombed, starved and oppressed have done it to them selves Marx damn you people

>>2599919
>waaah YOU are a treatler treatler treatler

>>2599919
Yeah I'll take "shit nobody said" for $800

>>2599923
Argue a fucking point or just accept it

>>2599926
>muh points

>>2599925
>$
Nice

But this entire thread is full of people who pay in dollars, chastising an actually successful communist party for not destabilising shit while those who pay for ICBMs in dollars are wanting to claim the oil fields of Siberia

Russia cockblocking usa is good, actually

>erm that state arrests their own communists the second they acquire guns
<global imperialism? massive military alliances against the word? Prolific anti-communist secret police that operates around the world? Oh you can’t claim that MY country is worse because of this, please oppose ALL bourgeois states EQUALLY! I have a prescription for anti-depressants ya know I think I’ve suffered enough

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we know its you Georgi

>>2599692
No Im sure a capitalist state would never spread anti comunist lies for its own benefit

>>2599929
Hey so if the CPRF is so "successful" then why didn't they do anything to combat Yeltsin when they had control of the Duma? The CPUSA may suck ass but they at least have the excuse of never being in power.

>>2599937
cockblocking em with their anus that might be

>>2599783
>minor points of foreign policy
wtf, the SMO was a revolutionary shift against economic subservience to western finance. That's not some minor shift, that's fundamental. You have KPRF derangement syndrome.

>>2599973
>denigrating Russia by denigrating homosexuals
Well that’s another tick on my “yep that’s a lib” bingo card

>>2599973
And now that cock is smeared in shit so who really lost?

>>2599996
Well you know what they say, he who found it browned it

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>>2599967
I think the worst part is you are very clearly American, because you have that tiresome American trait of needing to feel smart about something you're obviously uneducated about via "Hey so, if X then why Y" sarcasm, when sarcasm is the lowest form of wit

>>2600030
ur one of def one of us burgers, I can tell cuz your fucking annoying

Trotskyite down!

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>>2599967
>why didn't they do anything to combat Yeltsin when they had control of the Duma?
They did. It's not like the Duma had any real power compared to Yeltsin and the oligarchs though, and they never had a true majority. They lost the move to impeach Yeltsin in 1998 by 17 votes

Supporting Putin is more important than socialism for many here

>>2600104
Whatever you need to tell yourself

>>2599894
>>2599901
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to shit on the KPRF too much, nor am I suggesting that they should be doing an armed insurrection or something. However it's a simple fact that communist parties are only tolerated by bourgeois governments to the extent that they don't constitute a threat to the dominance of the capitalist class. If the Russian communists have been allowed to grow to the level that they have, then it's indicative that they have done so in a way that the Russian ruling class finds non-threatening. It's clear though that when the push the boundaries allotted to them by the Russian bourgeoisie, they are swiftly shoved back into line. This doesn't mean that the CPRF has no real communists in it, or that it can never be a vehicle for revolution in Russia. It just means that the tolerance that the Russian ruling class shows them is evidence of their general passivity and the collaborationist orientation of their leadership. As Mao says, if your enemies aren't attacking you then it should be taken as an indicator that you aren't doing enough to confront them.

All of this is beside the point however, which is that it's downright embarrassing for a "communist" to see a bourgeois state repressing communist party members and immediately side with the former.

>>2600135
didn't deny his point


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