/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2660380
Those iPad kids will be the ones responsible for the care of the older generations in a few decades. What happens in 30-40 years when the Gen Alphas are just as incompetent as the elderly millennials and zoomers they’re assigned to care for? What about care for the disabled? You think a former iPad kid can take care of a level 3 autistic adult when the former iPad kid is barely able to do anything on their own?

Schooling itself is outdated or will soon be in 10 years. The problem is that teachers today keep acting as if it’s still 1996 and use the exact same teaching methods that they were exposed to in 1996. The times have changed due to tech. We don’t need to learn math because our smartphones have calculators. We don’t need to read novels because ChatGPT can summarize them. We don’t need to learn history or science because we all have access to Wikipedia. Instead of demanding Luddism we should be rethinking the whole purpose of education itself. Teach kids critical thinking and logic instead of facts they can look up online in two seconds. AI will soon be doing most of the teaching for us anyway.

>>2660380
This. It’s no different than people who push for weed prohibition. It’s not about health but about solidifying one group’s power over another.

>>2660453
You want a person whose brain never properly developed due to prolonged screen use as a kid to care for you when you’re elderly?

>>2660380
Having an iPad raise your kid for you isn't "anti-authoritarian parenting". It's neglectful.

i read an opinion on another website that said that reading is going to get cool again because no one reads so its become like some elite hipster thing to be into books again like in the same way obscure music used to be consumed by hipsters


Anyways, there has to be a backlash to this culture of hyper over stimulation eventually, i picture the next generation being laid back dudes who want to chill instead of doom scroll for eternity

but who knows.

>>2660544
We already have cool kids who read books instead of smartphones, they're Performative Men.

>>2638607
wth unc yappin abt 💀

>>2660544
I've seen the term "Chronically Offline" be mentioned as the next big thing for young people and honestly I wouldn't be against it.

>>2602967
Pretty sure it's one of those lines the feds feed to radlibs to get them to bicker about stupid shit.

Ban tictock and all other form of brainrot material.
I don't like it either but it's the only solution.
And what will be done is that it will be used as a justification to force realID over the entire internet.

>>2657956
Zizek supports NATO

>>2638607
Trvke
And we gotta organize with these freaks
Tumblr brained fuckin zoomers are the worst. Everything is fuckin ableism.

>>2660830
This.

>>2602627
The only realistic solution is creating a healthy social environment around children that is free to access and fun to them. Parents were never able to "just parent properly", children always grow up in a society and parents are just human beings who can never direct that process all that much.

>>2660380
Talk to anyone who's been working as a teacher or college/university professor for at least 15 years and they'll tell you that there are noticeable problems in the way kids and young adults behave today vs. how they behaved 10-15 years ago. A close friend of mine (who is also a Marxist) has been a poli sci professor at a notable state university since 2004. He's told me that the students he's taught in his freshman-level intro course for the past three or four years have been the worst groups of students he's ever dealt with. For one thing, no one takes education seriously. He says the students in his freshman course never initiate intellectual discussions, ever. They don't care. They may say a thing or two about Israel-Palestine or about something stupid Trump has said but they can't keep a conversation going. They also can't read, and I mean they seriously can't read. My prof friend will assign chapters in the textbook that are only 10 pages or so long and only a handful of the students will actually do the reading because most of them can't read at all. But the worst thing he's told me is discovering all the "algorithm speak" in the essays his students write. They will literally use buzzwords from TikTok like "un-alived" or "graped" for raped or "jenny-cide" for genocide in what's supposed to be university research papers. He's said he's at the point where he's going to mark down any paper that uses such repulsive and unprofessional terminology. I asked him about how the freshmen he teaches today compare to the freshmen he's taught in other years and he says the ones today are way, way worse, just because they treat education so flippantly and have very real deficits in how they learn.

In other words, yes, "iPad kids" are a real social problem. This isn't moralism but recognizing the effects electronic addiction has on the mind and the way the mind gathers knowledge.

>So fucking what? You wanna get a medal for being a graybeard atop shit mountain?
I'm showing how being online in the 1990s and 2000s didn't make me turn out to be a little histeronic thin skinned faggot like most Zoomers are who are little fucking narcs who can't stand opinions that don't 1:1 match theirs and go running to mummy and daddy mods for the no no opinion that makes them feel bad. The internet until 2008 was a pretty fucking mean place and that built graft among us Millennials that bitch ass Zoomers don't have.
>The internet/social media has become so ubiquitous that growing up without the internet is little more than memories to remind older people about something to be angry over. If it weren't for their jobs disciplining their phone time, I'd bet money that Millennials would be little better than Boomer dads and Gen-X housewives with their internet addiction like the rest of us.
We had the internet, the difference was the internet was poorly moderated back then and was seriously mean. People would tear into your ass if you said anything retarded, being a little faggot snitch who runs to the mods would get everyone, including the mods clowning on your ass. "Just turn the computer off you faggot lol" would the be the standard response to anybody crying about decorum or no no opinions back in the day from 4chan to Digg to Early Reddit to Facebook etc. The difference now is zoomers internalized toxic inclusivity, everyone is heckin valid and anybody who has mildly a different opinion than me is a Nazi and the mods need to ban them.
I mean, look at Leftypol, where NAZBOL GANG originated from our community, they were one of the most creative meme groups on Leftypol, yet they would get banned within 5 minutes now. Was Leftypol shittier when they were around? NO, Classic Leftypol before the BO became a thin skinned banhammer nutcase was way fucking better.
>complete stand-in for political activism–can be traced back at least to the Boomers.
True and we can see that in hysterias like "omg people who like sisters of mercy literally worship Satan", "Pokemon is devil worshipping", "omg I smoked a joint and listened to Pink Floyd i'm such a rebel" but seriously took off Post-Gamergate, Gamergate is actually a super important period in how consumption became politics. It also showed Corpos that politics and consumer identity can be melded and they've gone full steam with that ever since which has accelerated this trend among not just Zoomers but Millennials as well.
>What the fuck have Millennials done with culture that wasn't constantly living in the shadow of their parents that they resent anyway?
Cope, Boomers, Gen X and Millennials were all hyper creative generations that created new forms and genres of music, have tonnes of hyper influential fashion designers and artists, all had their own real genuine scenes and counter-cultures.
Zoomers literally turn the past into a corpo Hot topic aesthetic and wear it as a season, they have never invented any new genre (even shit like Hyper-pop, Soundcloud Rap, Hypebeast which is associated with Zoomers was actually late Millennial) they have zero counter-culture at all.
Zoomers were played a bad hand, but even then it's pathetic the cultural output of Zoomers is literally… nothing.
>If you're serious about this, then all I got to say is you literally started this, and the only reason why you find it annoying is because the Zoomers and Gen Alpha kids are like peering into a mirror and you can't stand the sight of your own shit.
Never reported anybody to a mod ever in my life lmao. Most (non tumblr) Millennials are not crybaby losers who have a existential meltdown if they see the word faggot or retarded or see a opinion they can't stand, most Millennials who are like this are either Tumblr brained or Type As playing the ladder climbing game using it to knock out their competition.
Just look at Leftypol, filled with Zoomers now and the mods literally ban you for having the exact same position as Marx, Engels or Lenin because it's "problematic" to "intersectionality" bullshit.
Yes I put the blame of Woke shit on Millennials actually, but it's not the majority of us, just the Tumblrite/Feminist retards who started this shit, but Zoomers took that crap and turned it into a tornado of fucking horseshit. If us Millennials were the PLA then Zoomers are the Radical Red Guard. One comes from the other and technically on the same team but the application is very different.
>>2661963
Third of kids today in the UK literally cannot read and try swipe books like Ipads. Not even kidding.

>>2662047
Screen addiction is WAY WORSE than alcohol or tobacco addiction, and in a few decades from now the data will prove this.

>>2662047
Millennials are the 🚂 generation and if you accidentally deadname one they break down in a fit of hysteria. You are NOT the tough guy, homo.

>>2662047
>Millennials are not crybaby losers who have a existential meltdown if they see the word faggot or retarded or see a opinion they can't stand
Geg, you're such a larping faggot its unreal. Just admit you want people to suck your cock and validate how BADASS AND AGAINST THE GRAIN AND NOT LIKE OTHER BOYS you are. It would make this embarrassing peacocking of mental masturbation a lot more dignifying then trying to play it off like some kind of form intellectualism from a wannabe tortured genius.
>I mean, look at Leftypol, where NAZBOL GANG originated from our community, they were one of the most creative meme groups on Leftypol, yet they would get banned within 5 minutes now. Was Leftypol shittier when they were around? NO, Classic Leftypol before the BO became a thin skinned banhammer nutcase was way fucking better.
The NAZBOL GANG shit died out because it was an obvious meme ideology that no one but absolute retards actually believed in, it was never going to stick around once it became old and stale. And the only time I ever see people getting banned is when they are derailing threads with shit completely unrelated to the topic of said thread, the mods don't even ban people for being a NEETSOC or far-right retard, you can even make threads debating leftists on this very site if you wanted too, just don't shit up threads not even tangentially related to it.

>>2662047
unc thinks hes tuff because he called people faggot retards on a image board 200 years ago

Mods permaban everyone for idpol

>>2653718
They’re already getting him to record music in a professional music studio. Grooming.

>>2662047
Why are so many millennials like this?

>>2602627
I blame the millennial and zoomer obsession with trauma. Parents are so obsessed with raising trauma-free kids that they’re willing to deprive them of meaningful life experiences and instead keep them glued to the iPad.

>>2666946
A lot of millennials have the same narcissistic tendencies as their Boomer parents, just without the money.

>>2662047
Shit like this is why zoomCHADS are so much better than millenioids. You VVILL be vvoke, you VVILL be b& for saying slurs, you VVILL respect the pronouns!

>>2626757
>>2602873
actual millenial parent here. there is truth to what you guys say. some (not enough) of us try to take the kids outside without devices once a day. I go on mile walks with my toddler. it's hard to strike a work/life balance with the kids. instead of giving my kid a tablet, I let them watch 1 hour of traditional TV a day before their bath, but the rest of their time they have to spend with their toys, and so forth.

a lot of kids from my child's age cohort are getting hit with autism diagnoses (including my own) and some of them struggle with potty training, language learning, etc.

>>2666946
>why is [group] like [this negative encounter online]
why are you as an individual asking loaded questions? and why is it you in particular? do not use your demographics as an excuse.

>>2670437
you will get hit with the genpol by alphas soon

>>2670548
I have to ask: who is going to provide care for all of those autistic kids when their parents get too old and can’t do it? There’s a care worker crisis as it is, and it’s only going to get worse in a few decades.

>>2670823
Robots?

>>2670825
That tech won’t be developed in time.

Don't just blame the kids and the parents, blame the school system for routinely failing the kids. Public schools in America have been dogshit since the early 2000s when the focus became less on the acquisition of knowledge and more on how well students take tests. That's why you have so many straight-A students who are actually really fucking dumb and have no intellectual interests.

>>2660380
Kids need responsibilities and the ability to understand obligations to others. This can't come from having infinite choices and emotional mirroring like what gentle parents seek to do.

>>2662047
>Falling for the muh millennials vs zoomers culture war
Cringe honestly

>>2602627
Ruling class benefits from a weak population that isn't able to defend itself (but is able to create surplus value).

>>2670823
not all autistic people are incapable of taking care of themselves. that's a complete misunderstanding of what autism is. Especially since the "spectrum" which diagnoses fall under has widened in the past several decades. What used to merely be considered aspergers, for example, is now considered high functioning autism.

Then you have the fact that plenty of "neurotypical" people are incapable of taking care of themselves, due to drug and alcohol addiction, chronic joblessness, etc. You could say those are undiagnosed people, and you may be right, but the whole idea of "neurotypical" is a bit of a misnomer in the first place. Most people have something wrong with them and most people are social animals who survive in a social setting rather than isolated. The meme of surviving by yourself in self-imposed solitary confinement, in nature, the literal Robinson Crusoe gold standard of bourgeois economists, it doesn't make any sense, and the fact that we construct our mental health diagnoses around it also doesn't make sense.

>>2666970
In my experience as a parent: Most parents don't actually do this. Maybe it's because I live in a more "backwards" area where people still go outside… but in my experience most parents take their kids outside and don't give them tablet 24/7. That's an outlier

>>2671763
Autistic people are way more likely to need assisted living services. I know an autistics woman who was late diagnosed level 2 and she has said she can’t live alone and will need to move into a group home once her parents can’t provide for her anymore. Where will she go when the care homes have wait lists that go on for 10+ years?

>>2666970
As long as your not leaving your kid unattended with pedophiles so you can party uninterrupted your doing alright.

>>2671763
>Most people have something wrong with them and most people are social animals who survive in a social setting rather than isolated. The meme of surviving by yourself in self-imposed solitary confinement, in nature, the literal Robinson Crusoe gold standard of bourgeois economists, it doesn't make any sense, and the fact that we construct our mental health diagnoses around it also doesn't make sense.

This is a full blown deflection and highly belittling of the disabled. You’re basically pulling an “all lives matter” statement.

>>2666827
They will probably make AI music and attach this kid’s name to it.

>>2631182
I think reducing everything down to 'pleasure' is part of the problem

>>2602627
It's a socialization crisis. The old moral norms and values will no longer apply to a generation that's been raised entirely online from birth. The problem is, in order for communities to function you need some kind of predictability, since predictability is the basis of trust, and gen alpha iPad kids will have to learn some kind of moral norms in order to ensure that predictability. The reasons classrooms are hell and so many teachers are quitting now is because gen alphas have very sporadic behaviours and can't be told to sit down and do their math worksheets.

>>2666970
It's the modern day "stranger danger". Back in the day, kids used to have a lot more freedom. Look at how kids growing up in NYC in the 70s used to be raised by the entire apartment building. Neighbours all took care of each others' kids. Today most parents would freak at the very idea of having their neighbours look after their kids for a few hours.

I hate to be "that comrade" but I also blame some of this on daycares. Parents who have to work stick their kids in daycares where their kids' worlds shrink.

Millennials and zoomers were priced out of adulthood, so it makes sense that they would see their own gen alpha children as friends rather than the people they need to have authority over.

>>2666970
They think having a full experience of life is "trauma".

zeitgeist of intelligence has left the left I see in the thread . You comrades are discussing how to prevent brain rot like the reactionaries you are instead of weaponizing it . It’s a dialectical issue think like that . Lenin talks about this in emperico criticism. the contradiction must get to a point and get worse and then something new is bot . The brain rot is the incubator of the future

>>2680752
So, accelerationism?

>>2680715
Have you even lived if you haven't been molested at least once?