How exactly do we successfully fight against and reverse Gen Alpha brainrot?
https://youtube.com/shorts/h2i3cGyzNKoThis stuff is becoming alarming. When I was a little kid in the 90s I would watch stuff that had actual substance to it (think: Disney renaissance, Don Bluth films, TV shows like Arthur). Plus our parents made an effort to read to us and get us looking at science books and history books for kids. When I babysit my neighbours’ kids who are eight and six (both boys) I’m horrified by how stupid they are. They can’t read at all. They can’t play musical instruments. They don’t do arts and crafts. They have the vocabularies of preschool-aged kids. They can’t do math and the eight-year old asks me to do his math homework for him. Both of them are either glued to their iPads or glued to watching YouTube on TV. It’s sad as hell. What do?
>>2618847Imagine spending your teen years being forced to help your mom wipe your uncle’s ass and balls. Ouch.
You need to all stop being such fucking boomers.
>>2618847NGL low birthrates are terrible for disabled folks. Who provides us with care if we have no siblings?
>>2618927A strong American left could implement the reforms needed to provide for disabled people. But since we don't have that, the disabled are the sole responsibilities of their families.
>>2602855I'm an aging millennial, and when I ask my fellow aging millennial friends why they haven't had kids they all say it's because they don't trust themselves to be parents. Not wanting to continue generational trauma is a big one.
What's sad is that these kinds of mentalities are what stops the people who should be raising kids from having kids, all while right-wingers who don't give a shit about trauma end up having bucketloads of kids.
>>2613754i can corroborate a lot of these sentiments.
kids who at 8-9-10 have lost all interest in life. They dont dream of anything, they dont risk dreaming either for fear of being seen caring. They have no interests except brainrot. they will literally tell me their interests are brainrot. you initially think its a bullshit answer and they are just playing around but no, they come to school shattered cos a really significant amount of them spend all night till 2am on screens watching brainrot.
The kids are violent, abusive and selfish in the extreme. any number of the things the kids routinely say wouldve got me suspended as a kid. let alone the violence. The education system as it stands gives the children no punishment worth shit and they know it.
The American empire has done such inexplicable horrors to the world but the one that routinely does most damage to me and my country is the social media companies theyve invaded my country with
>>2619080>The kids are violent, abusive and selfish in the extreme.So I guess the gentle parenting didn't turn them into compassionate people, then?
>>2619096i dont think its gentle parenting. i dont think the parents are there at all. the parents are glued to their phones and vapes whenever i see them. waiting in the car, waiting to go to a meeting, waiting for their kid to leave class, walking from one area to another. Its brutal. every moment i see these parents they are on their phones. why wouldnt it be the same at home?
>>2619096Gentle parenting makes kids authoritarian.
>>2602855Similar to your point: many parents have no desire to teach their kids how to be self-reliant. They don't teach their kids how to brush their teeth, tie their shoes, make themselves a sandwich when they're hungry, or fix a broken doorknob. They expect their kids to live in mutual aid-based environments where others will do everything for them.
Deliberately retarding your kid's development like this is neglectful as fuck.
>muh culture war
>>2626712It's not a culture war.
>>2602855This. Kids are apathetic because the parents are apathetic.
>>2619106I think a big part of that is there being a lot of the pop culture these days just shit-talk parenthood exclusively. There's very little "parenthood is magical!" to counter-act "parenthood is putting your life on hold, you must choose between kids and that big executive job".
>>2602873>Not really "gentle" and more neglectfulGentle parenting always leads to neglectful parenting. When parents focus entirely on smothering their kids with affection and have no real expectations for them the kids end up becoming entitled, self-centered, and apathetic.
>>2626757Yeah it seems like people act as though there’s no middle ground between beating your children and having them diagnosed with every excuse under the sun for their behaviour.
I think it’s just easier that way, I don’t think anyone enjoys disciplining children, telling them their grades are disappointing, taking their toys away when it’s time to do their homework or chores, pressuring them to take up a hobby or learn a skill, etc so it’s better to just frame discipline or just “parenting” in general as an intrinsically traumatic experience for children and they “deserve better”
>>2626762I question how many of these gentle-parented gen alphas will be able to handle a real revolution, since they have no coping skills and can't handle challenges. If you were gentle parented you were never taught how to push through challenges and discomforts, so you start to doubt yourself and give up. And you start thinking in terms of "I have no real obligations, I'll only do something when I feel like doing it" even if you need to do it for the sake of something bigger than yourself. Internal motivation isn't enough, you need some external motivation in your life (e.g. doing something for "the cause" even if you personally don't benefit from it in the short-term, like sabotaging a weapons factory knowing you'll get arrested and brutalized by cops but doing it anyway because fighting imperialism is more important).
>>2626768In my experience on leftypol, they can scarcely handle discussing imperialism, let alone discussing revolution against it.
I'm gonna be the cool uncle who shows kids selected good shows from yesteryear on my old tee vee.
It's not much, but it helps.
I think this ties into the lack of independence in outside play children now experience. My sister is raising children in an extremely low crime medium sized town in England. Her eldest child is 10, and she can barely ever spend time outside with her friends by herself. It's not because my sister doesn't let her, but that she doesn't have any friends who are allowed outside by themselves. When I was a kid, pretty much from 7 years old onwards we spent all the weekend and summer holidays outside at the park with friends, playing football or scraping together enough money to buy sweets, typical kid shit. Half of us didn't even have mobile phones then, parents just accepted that it was super low risk and that all the kids would come home for lunch and then before it got dark. Nowadays, in spite of most children getting smartphones very young, parents don't seem willing to let them out to the park or whereever by themselves. Again, this is in the most low crime and low traffic town you can imagine. Absolutely no idea what is going on in parent's heads that makes them think kids aged 8-12 arent mature enough to play with friends independently, but it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy of learned dependence.
God only knows what this is doing to children's development, mentally and socially. Neural pathways not being developed, social skills not being gained, and most of all, confidence and joy in outdoors activity not being acquired. Just a goddamn mess. I don't know how widespread this phenomenon is but I suspect it's closely tied to the rise of terminally online brainrot addicted Gen Alphas across the west.
I'm willing to throw that whole generation into the meat grinder.
How is spending all day on an iPad any different than spending all day reading? You truly believe there’s a hierarchy of pleasures in life?
>>2626785Do people even use nukechan?
>>2631182If there’s no hierarchy of pleasures then you might as well gamble and do fentanyl all day
>>2631186No, explain to me why iPads are somehow more toxic than reading books all day of spending all day playing sports.
>>2631190Even trash genre fiction doesn’t have slot machines embedded within them, iPad gives you the power to gamble on live tables, virtual slots, bet on any sport or political event
>>2631196Okay, and how does online gambling make an iPad worse?
>>2631199Something something poverty tax nihilism suicide rate
>>2631202What does my question have to do with philosophy?
>>2631259youre abstracting two completely different concrete actions into meaninglessness
>>2631182>>2631190Reading stimulates the mind.
Sports stimulate the body.
iPad addiction does neither. Especially if the iPad is used for playing mindless games like Roblox.
by banning commercialization of behavior and attention via social media banning data and bandwidth monopolization, copyright for software, the idea of buying more bandwidth this is popular right now due all the AI outrage. the fact that this thread is 90% anti children shit just shows how worthless you are all are fuck all of you.
just be a better parent yeah ok and you cant even be a parent.
>>2626768They will be disciplined in workplace.
There's no use in redeeming Gen Alpha when AI will be doing 90% of the work 10 years from now. Just wait until they reach high school where AI will have effectively replaced written assignments.
>>2626768>"I have no real obligations, I'll only do something when I feel like doing it" This is precisely why Kanye the Aspie refuses to drop like half his discography.
>>2602627Millennial boomer here. (Week 1 4chan opening 2003, Gaia Online before that, before that just random phpBB forums, before that Usenet, so a lot of experience with online communities).
Issue with Zoomers is they grew up largely online, during the peak of woke which made them all super thin skinned little fucking groupthink narcs who go running to the mods anytime they see a nono thought (look at the state of leftypol and its beyond shit tier eggshells tier moderation today), A lot of the woke shit they gobbled down was largely just out of context Tumblr bullshit they interpreted in the worst and most insufferable way which became a large part of Zoomer culture (example: Millennials complaining about grooming gangs where 25-30 year olds would hang out at high school for their 16 year old girlfriends became "if you are 27 and have a 24 year old girlfriend you're a paedophile"), Covid absolutely fucked zoomers entrance into the real world and socialization, they spent much of their University years in lockdown and doing everything remote leading to more focus on online trends rather than real world ones, being terminally online and terminally Tumblr brained and hyper-politicization led to youth subcultures being replaced with online political activism. This is why Zoomers are also the most culturally sterile generation of the modern age, there are no meaningful Zoomer genres, no meaningful zoomer artists, no meaningful zoomer scenes, no meaningful zoomer music etc because it all got replaced with dogshit political takes and LARPing.
Also just for me, they are the single most annoying generation online (though it might be alphas as well), they are pathologically snarky and bad faith, they can't take any fucking criticism, they can't stand people having different opinions than them, they project like crazy and have no fucking critical thinking skills, the terrible socialization and lack of experience in the real world is way more than it was with us Millennials. I had friends straight out of highschool into Government and Corporate careers (College/Uni was less of a thing in the early 2000s), Zoomers are in their mid to late 20s and still act and talk like they are fucking teenagers in high school and have no understanding how normal people actually think or act. They're doing teenage LARPing of being an adult rather than being an adult. This is a large part of why I think online discourse has gone to shit as well, Zoomers are basically know it all teenagers who think they know everything from fucking Tumblr discourse of all things, but they are in their late 20s wtf.
>>2638607>wokeStopped reading lmao
Who cares? What’s the point? They’re the final generation anyway
>>2638607>Millennial boomer here. (Week 1 4chan opening 2003, Gaia Online before that, before that just random phpBB forums, before that Usenet, so a lot of experience with online communities).So fucking what? You wanna get a medal for being a graybeard atop shit mountain? As if the early 2000s internet wasn't also a period of rampant narcissists run amok on forums. The only difference being that you might've had more anonymity before the panopticon really set in, but that only made the people using the internet then even more narcissistic. I bet you were a tryhard then like how you sound right now.
>Issue with Zoomers is they grew up largely online, during the peak of woke which made them all super thin skinned little fucking groupthink narcs who go running to the mods anytime they see a nono thought (look at the state of leftypol and its beyond shit tier eggshells tier moderation today)Borderline projection. The internet/social media has become so ubiquitous that growing up without the internet is little more than memories to remind older people about something to be angry over. If it weren't for their jobs disciplining their phone time, I'd bet money that Millennials would be little better than Boomer dads and Gen-X housewives with their internet addiction like the rest of us.
>Covid absolutely fucked zoomers entrance into the real world and socialization, they spent much of their University years in lockdown and doing everything remote leading to more focus on online trends rather than real world ones …Sure, though those were trends that were years or decades in the making that Covid simply accelerated
>… being terminally online and terminally Tumblr brained and hyper-politicization led to youth subcultures being replaced with online political activism.Sure, but at the heart of this notion–the idea that cultural consumption is capable of being a complete stand-in for political activism–can be traced back at least to the Boomers. The only real difference is that nearly all of fandom has been consumed into this culture/political arguments by-proxy, where political debate over fiction has become just another vector to argue how "[x] group aren't
real fans!"
>This is why Zoomers are also the most culturally sterile generation of the modern age, there are no meaningful Zoomer genres, no meaningful zoomer artists, no meaningful zoomer scenes, no meaningful zoomer music etc because it all got replaced with dogshit political takes and LARPing.Fuck you man. Most Zoomers are statistically children of Gen-Xers, who were almost totally eclipsed by the Boomers in pop culture. Millennials likewise are mostly the children of Boomers. What the fuck have Millennials done with culture that wasn't constantly living in the shadow of their parents that they resent anyway? I guess you won't have to worry for long. Once most of the Boomers die off and you Millennials finally get your gibs in inheritance when you turn 58, you'll finally have your place in the sun to crank out forgettable nostalgia-bait slop.
>Also just for me, they are the single most annoying generation online (though it might be alphas as well), they are pathologically snarky and bad faith, they can't take any fucking criticism, they can't stand people having different opinions than them, they project like crazy and have no fucking critical thinking skills, the terrible socialization and lack of experience in the real world is way more than it was with us Millennials. I had friends straight out of highschool into Government and Corporate careers (College/Uni was less of a thing in the early 2000s), Zoomers are in their mid to late 20s and still act and talk like they are fucking teenagers in high school and have no understanding how normal people actually think or act. They're doing teenage LARPing of being an adult rather than being an adult. This is a large part of why I think online discourse has gone to shit as well, Zoomers are basically know it all teenagers who think they know everything from fucking Tumblr discourse of all things, but they are in their late 20s wtf.This part is pure fucking bait. If you're serious about this, then all I got to say is you literally started this, and the only reason why you find it annoying is because the Zoomers and Gen Alpha kids are like peering into a mirror and you can't stand the sight of your own shit.
t. "Zillennial", if that even means anything
>>2638607Unc thinks we'll be reading allat 💀
>>2631182>You truly believe there’s a hierarchy of pleasures in life?Some online activities are measurably healthier than others. I'd rather my kid be surfing the web and building a personal website than rotting on twitter, live streams and short form videos.
>>2631774Depends what 'games' you're playing on Roblox, but yeah Minecraft, Vintage Story and Hytale are healthier, and reading is essential.
Sports are overrated though, as someone that grew up on sports. Puts you in the company of anti-social chuds that are usually on hard drugs, and overexposes you to the sun.
>>2652133Roblox is a haven for child predators.
>>2602627>>2603824Gekyume has been exploited since birth. Modern-day Macaulay Culkin.
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