How exactly do we successfully fight against and reverse Gen Alpha brainrot?
https://youtube.com/shorts/h2i3cGyzNKoThis stuff is becoming alarming. When I was a little kid in the 90s I would watch stuff that had actual substance to it (think: Disney renaissance, Don Bluth films, TV shows like Arthur). Plus our parents made an effort to read to us and get us looking at science books and history books for kids. When I babysit my neighbours’ kids who are eight and six (both boys) I’m horrified by how stupid they are. They can’t read at all. They can’t play musical instruments. They don’t do arts and crafts. They have the vocabularies of preschool-aged kids. They can’t do math and the eight-year old asks me to do his math homework for him. Both of them are either glued to their iPads or glued to watching YouTube on TV. It’s sad as hell. What do?
>>2602627>How exactly do we successfully fight against and reverse Gen Alpha brainrot? By making communist-oriented brainrot.
Tell the parents frankly that their kids are retarded and that they are to blame.
>>2602651It's not just the fault of the parents though. It's also the fault of a failing school system and a culture that has increasingly moved childhood to centre around electronics like iPads/Tablets.
>>2602655It's the fault of the parent to not detect this as a problem early on and protect the kids. The majority of millenials should have been castrated to be honest.
Now just imagine the retarded mongrels that Gen Z will give birth to when they grow up.
What if the problem with kids is that fewer people who would make good parents are deciding to become parents at all? And it's impossible for families to be immune to the consequences of what other families are doing, so everyone ends up affected.
All the smart people don't want kids because they worry they're going to fuck their kids up the same way their boomer parents fucked them up, so all the kids are born to stupid people who simply didn't care. Could that be it?
>>2602671This could be it, they aren't obligated to, anymore, and the worse off people end up spreading their genes which is worse off in the long run.
>>2602627>muh cultureMods, permaban this OP
>>2602692Not just genes but also socialization. Stupid people tend to raise stupid kids. They don't understand the value of reading to your kids or teaching your kids about science and history.
>>2602651This
I'm genuinely sick of society's aversion to calling out bad parenting and simply expect these kids to magically cure themselves when they're 18. This isn't a movie, there won't be a third act turnaround. A lot of these kids will end up failures if shit doesn't change.
>>2602627>This stuff is becoming alarming. When I was a little kid in the 90s-Lol, just more mental masturbation surrounded around a "I'm not like other boys!" attitude. If you want someone to kiss your ass and validate your ego then you would have far better results on 4cuck where this mindset is widespread. And using the "BACK IN MY DAY" shit too? The lowest form of self masturbation for the ego too.
>>2602752Dont worry, China will save the day. Their kids arent like that.
>>2602752Usually, the shitty spineless parents expect schoolteachers to do all the disciplining for them. You should see what elementary school teachers are saying about the kids they teach. It's nightmare material.
>>2602768It's just a continuous race to the bottom, material conditions have gotten worse for every generation since WW2 and its bred a mindset of "Well, why should I be burdened with raising my children if MY needs aren't being met?" and it just gets worse and worse from there. The modern generation is one born from parents who grew up as Reddit, 4chan, Newgrounds, sociopathic manchildren who in turn were raised by Gen-X with their issues and then the boomers and so on. The post-war hyper capitalist system the US built up has ironically been its downfall in the long term. And of course, from a communist perspective it was to be expected.
>>2602768>>2602789I place the bulk of the blame on the gentle parenting trend. Xennials and millennials were raised by boomer parents during the era of neoliberalism. They groomed their kids into being mini-adults at a very young age in order to prepare them for corporate jobs. Then the economy crashed in 2008 and all those dreams fell apart. So, xennials and millennials have decided to raise their gen alpha kids in the polar opposite way. They want their kids to focus on being “good people” instead of smart people. There's no point to wanting a smart child if you know your kid will grow up to be nothing other than a Starbucks barista or Amazon warehouse worker. Smart people are still living with their parents well into adulthood just like literal retards, so the parents of gen alphas think it's more important for kids to learn compassion on the basis it will create a more compassionate, less harsh economic system in the future. Ironically, this bullshit ends up creating a lot of authoritarian and fascist tendencies in kids because the kids start acting like the dominant force in the household. When the people who are supposed to be your authority figures are soft and cowardly you start becoming the authority.
Also, you need to be intelligent in order to be truly compassionate. Like, you have to have intellect to hold a concept of justice and understand why a just world needs to exist. There's a reason why the stupidest people you know are also some of the meanest and least considerate of others. Actual retarded people often times become aggressive and have violent meltdowns because they can't express their pain and anger through words.
>>2602855Not really "gentle" and more neglectful
I've been around millennial parents and they barely pay attention to their kid. Similar to past gens but this time they have a portable dopamine machine to place in their hands rather than plopping them in front of the tv or sending them into the woods.
The truth is that most Americans never wanted children, they only have them because condoms don't feel good.
>>2602873>Similar to past gens but this time they have a portable dopamine machine to place in their hands rather than plopping them in front of the tv or sending them into the woods.They use iPads as substitute parents, yes. A lot of us grew up with TV, video game consoles, and Gameboys, but the difference between that and what we're seeing now is staggering. We would watch TV and play Nintendo/Playstation together as friends. Even the Gameboy games we used to play required intellect (lots of puzzle games and adventure games where we had to save our progress). Nowadays the games young kids play are completely mindless.
>>2602885>Even the Gameboy games we used to play required intellect (lots of puzzle games and adventure games where we had to save our progress).Oh my fucking god you people are so pretentious.
>>2602892How is he wrong though. Look at the phone/tablet games that get advertised to children, it's pure dopamine slot machine slop. Proper children's games or edutainment are pretty much an extinct niche nowadays. It's not an "in my days I was an EPIC GAMER" thing, the industry objectively degenerated to favor the cheapest and most exploitative practices.
>>2602905If you legitimately believe most of the consumer games made for the gameboy, DS, 3DS etc. wasn't a majority just shovelware, or even worse, actually believe that a majority of the content made back then was "edutainment" then I honestly do not know what to tell you. But, it doesn't matter anyways, because consumer products DON'T AFFECT MATERIAL CONDITIONS THAT WAY, people in the 19fucking30s were complaining about how Hollywood was churning out slop, NONE OF IT HAD ANY BEARING ON THE MATERIAL CONDITIONS IN THE US OR ELSEWHERE.
>>2602627I year ago I was browsing the newest random vids on Youtube after Xmas and I found a vid of a 4 yrs old kid who uploaded footage of him showing around his room which included his naked little brother. Obv he couldn't know that that was inappropriate. Reported it immediately, ofc.
Fuck parents who buy toddlers tech and then let them use it unattended. For fuck's sake I was supervised playing DOS games so that I don't get to play anything too aggro or erotic, and we are talking about 640x480 pixels here with beepity boop soundcards and contemporary parents just let 4 yrs old watch intentionally erotic youtube channels aimed at 5 yrs old kids.
Similarly, when I watched TV a parent was always around, and explained to me things that we were watching ranging from the most mundane ("what's a divorce") to more explicit stuff ("sex is when mommies and daddies love each other very much and they hug and hug in bed")… Today, while going to work and taking mass transit I see kids with headphones blasting unsupervised youtube schlock into their little skulls while their parents are doing the same. The whole family unit has been atomized into private consumptions.
we need to get them off the damn phones but it all starts with the adults themselves, you can't talk against slop if you consume slop yourself.
speaking of that I'm logging off and never coming back to this site again
FUCK YOU MODS, BAN ME
>>2602627>Plus our parents made an effort to read to us and get us looking at science books and history books for kids.Isn't the sentiment now that reading to your kids gives them an unfair advantage against other kids?
Ban everyone under 20 from using internet and throw them into socialization camps.
>>2602954Please tell me you are joking. Even americans cannot be that dumb surely.
>>2602659Boy am I glad I didn't have a kid. I have Autism and can barely take care of myself. I can't be expected to take care of a kid.
>>2602974Track of the year.
>>2602974At least this is better than We Are Charlie Kirk and Kanye's HH song.
Labubu or Kautskyism? Of course, Labubu.
2 Labubus or Social Chauvinism? Of course 2 Labubus.
3 Labubus or Adventurism? It's easy. 3 Labubus.
5 Labubus or N.E.P? 100% 5 Labubus.
10 Labubus or Bourgeois Revolution? 10 Labubus.
15 Labubus or War Communism? War Communism.
>>2602954Holy liberalism batman
>>2602671Well there's also a huge problem of skills just not being transferred to younger generations any more as society has become more specialized and practically all basic life skills are now outsourced to professionals.
>>2603003another reason the porks bet on AI to create their cyberpunk dystopia. glad this shit seems not to work out and the upcoming generation, as sad as it is for them, will be actually incapable of building GAI because they can't read nor do basic arithmetics.
We traded too much discipline for too little.
You should not treat your kids like punching bags like old people did but you should also give them strong rules. The slopfication of culture also hit them the hardest.
>>2602942That’s it. The parents act more like kids than the kids do.
sure is boomer in here
are children bourgeois?
>>2602917You can’t lead a revolution with retards.
>>2602855This is the only material explanation so far ITT.
>>2603820
what if we said 1917 instead of 67? that could be the next big thing 👀
>>2603824>>2603856https://youtube.com/shorts/7oUVVbz8lHALatest video is literally a labubu one.
Just fuck these parents.
Idk I do know kids should be banned from phones till at least like 16. I don’t let my kid look at phone for the most part, but the few times they get ahold of one it’s like ripping a crack pipe from addict. My mother in law is bad about just shoving a phone in her face and letting YouTube auto play for her. Caught her watching some questionable stuff multiple times.
>>2603052I try to frame discipline as a benefit, one thing my no good druggy gen X parents did for me was sit me down and tell me I will be an addict. There’s no escaping it, you got to work with it or against it.
We should bring back corporal punishment but for parents who give their kids devices and turn them into retards.
Oh what's what? Mr and Mrs Smith let little Timmy watch nonstop brainrot on his tablet and now he's illiterate? Well looks like Mr and Mrs Smith are getting the belt!
>>2602627Honestly Australia probably has the right idea. The internet is so far gone that you can't really engage in half-measures anymore. You have to cut it off completely and let the kids grow up normally.
>>2602954No one has ever said that at any point in human history.
>>2602855Nah this is dumb as fuck.
Parents who want their kids to be good people aren't raising fascists. Parents who dump their child in front of a tablet are.
>>2603831There's nothing material about it.
You embrace it, communism is tuff
>reverseUndialectical. Brainrot is good because it shatters the pretentiousness spooks rely on to be adhesive.
>But still, art also accompanies religion, for the inwardness of man is expanded by its struggle with the Object, and in the genius of the artist it breaks forth again into a new expression, and the Object becomes yet further enhanced and illuminated. Thankfully, hardly a generation has been passed without such enlightenment by art. But, at the last, art will stand at the close of religion. Serene and confident, art will claim its own once again, and by so doing will rob the Object of its objectivity, its ‘other-sidedness’, and free it from its long religious imprisonment. Here, art no longer will enrich its Object, but totally destroy it. In reclaiming its creature, art rediscovers itself and renews its creative powers as well. It appears, at the decline of religion, as a trifling with the full seriousness of the old belief, a seriousness of content which religion has now lost, and which must be returned to the joyful poet. Hence, religion is presented as a ridiculous comedy. [6] Now, however, terrible this comedic destruction might be, it will nevertheless restore to actuality that which it thinks but to destroy. And so, we do not elect to condemn its horror! https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/max-stirner-art-and-religion >>2604104>Parents who want their kids to be good people aren't raising fascists. Parents who dump their child in front of a tablet are.Depends on what you mean by "good". The problem is, the parents refusing to be authoritative (not authoritarian, but authoritative) who treat their children more like friends than children end up installing fascist tendencies in their kids, because the kids end up feeling entitled.
It's basically an economic issue. Better parenting. Ability to afford extra curriculars. They don't need to rely on technology because they have friends to do things in person with. And it's back to parenting where they are allowed social media but it's not looked at like a serious career.
>>2603003Yeah my mom grew up on a farm and she was hellbent on teaching my brother and I how to chop food, grow our own food, and survive in the woods. I'm not bullshitting you. She taught me more about DIY shit than the Girl Scouts did.
>>2602627It's actually pretty funny to see how much the social isolation and excessive screen time in kids causes them to have behaviours that mimic those of autism and ADHD all while not being autism and ADHD. Everyone wants to talk about how these two disorders are overly diagnosed in kids when the real culprit is the screens and severe lack of socialization.
>>2602627Blame the parents.
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>>2602756He says, putting a giant dragon dildo with the word "China" written on it up his ass while furiously fapping to BBC porn, knowing that he, as a white demon, is not worth of Communism
>>2602627>>2603824Parents who exploit their children by turning them into influencers deserve to be executed.
>>2605270Very faggy post.
>>2605263SIX SEVEN YEAAAAAAHHHH
>>2605477People who outsorce the revolution to a foreign nation, rather than attempting to build it at home are the biggest fags on the planet. This is especially true when that foreign nation is China, which has repeatedly stated that it has zero interest in that kind of thing.
>>2605500It's just like when Spartacus got free and carved its own kingdom and then made nukes he was be like "oh wow I love roman slavers let's trade slaves and stuff" and then he had a desaprobating stare each time the romans made a genocide
>>2605270But i am worthy of chinese made high quality dragon dildo AND a device on which i am witnessing the BLACKENING of a CHINESE pornstar.
This thread is just xennials being triggered by kids, nothing changes in society
>>2606009The kids are retarded and will being humanity back to the stone age.
>>2602627Maybe you should explain why it's a bad thing that people are getting "dumber." We all know intellectual ability is socially constructed. Someone who may be considered "intellectually disabled" in certain societies might be considered average intelligence in others. Right now, we're getting to the point where machines will soon do most of our work both physical and intellectual. We don't need to be "geniuses" anymore when AI exists. Maybe instead of lamenting the "loss of intellect" we should instead celebrate all forms of intellect and the diversity of human intellectual ability.
Parents need to be proactive in their children’s education. This is the real problem. The TV, iPad, and Nintendo Switch aren’t babysitters.
>>2602627Get kids reading again.
>>2610762The roblox > mascot horror > SCPwiki > actually reading for fun pipeline
>>2603824That’s Gekyume’s grandmother’s channel.
>>2611876This TBH
Implement policies like divorcing healthcare from employment and reducing the amount of debt workers enter the workforce with. That way no one will have to work exorbitantly long hours and can actually parent their kids.
>>2612225And better pensions, also isolated from employer. I'm on the EU and have free, universal healthcare and a bunch of welfare measures over the USA.
However, pensions and retirement keep getting held over the worker's heads because of minimum years worked and raising retirement ages and constant nickel-and-dime-ing over pension conditions, and inflation. The latter is always, always estimated way lower than it is in official statistics, so pensioners, even those with livable payments are losing money year by year when they are "adjusted to inflation".
But one can already see how liberalism addresses these issues, even if it's so called "socialist" parties doing it.
Not enough time for family life? Tax money to subsidize daycare
Not enough welfare to have any leverage over the employer? Tax money to "harm reduction" for the "less fortunate"
Shitty pensions/healthcare? Privatization
Too much unrest? Fascism and scapegoats
>>2606026So true anon, go ahead and drink bleach and I'm sure you'll become very intellectually diverse.
>>2602627I remember a mainstream article about a mother who vowed to enrich her child and not give him a phone like she saw other parents doing. But then there was some BS about how she met with a kid whose parents didn't let him watch TV or play games and he felt left alienated from his peers and their kid didn't know how to connect with other kids on the internet and he felt left out so she surrendered. Bleak.
Who fucking cares? They’re not growing up to be anything anyway
>>2602659Im gonna have 20 kids and they're all gonna be educated with skibidi toilet and brainrot
>>2612343That's just sad.
Childhood today is nothing but Labubu, Roblox, and 6-7.
>>2612225>>2612232If American socialists were smart, these are the exact programs they would push for. Raising wages is much, much more in-line with socialist goals than raising welfare. Universal healthcare, make all higher education free (so no more student debt), guaranteed housing (so rent doesn't gobble up 2/3rds of your paycheck), healthy food is dirt cheap, public transit is entirely free, etc. The less time people need to spend at work the more time they'll have to raise their fucking kids.
>>2612416Indeed. Welfare just encourages low-paid proles to give up work altogether and become welfare 'gib me fri gibs' lumpens.
He who does not work does not eat >>2612416>Universal healthcare, make all higher education free (so no more student debt), guaranteed housing (so rent doesn't gobble up 2/3rds of your paycheck), healthy food is dirt cheap, public transit is entirely freeThese are also welfare policies
>>2613171Whatchu gonn do bout it bitchtrot
Short-form video addiction proven harmful in new study:
https://psycnet.apa.org/fulltext/2026-89350-001.html>>2603824100% grooming this kid into becoming a child star.
>>2613675A future public nuisance. Well done, Amerikkkan parents.
>>2613574who coulda guessed PFLPanon
>>2613675How is this even allowed on YouTube?
>>2612353>skibidi toiletunironically too old for nowadays
>>2613171>that haircutDisgusting
>>2613171Notice how focused this child is on his iPhone. That's not normal.
>>2602627>Plus our parents made an effort to read to us and get us looking at science books and history books for kids.Not just read to us, I remember my dad had me read to him every other night or so, and then explain to him what I read. Reading is one thing, comprehending it is another, and I've found that the kids who are considered "literate" can barely understand what they're reading. Allowing your child to go through life like that is honestly sickening and should be considered child abuse.
>>2602659> The majority of millenials should have been castrated to be honest. Genpol statements like these should be banned. The american generation names are literally an interclass marketing construct
>>2614784This. So much this. My mother would always ask us questions as she would read to us before bed so we understood what was going on in the story.
>>26136756-7 is such a bad song it makes Gucci Gang look like Bohemian Rhapsody.
>>2615381Demoncrats are doing their duty by reducing the amount of evil amerikkkan spawns. Meanwhile the migas are also controlling the burger children population by trafficking them and denying them vaccines. Everything is good
there is no way out of this other than getting restrictive with certain things, screens are addictive period.
>noo you can't prohibit access to screens this will make them more addicted later when they have them as teens or adults!!!
apply this same logic to crack cocaine, it's retarded, just be strict with your kids in things that are worth having some discipline in, like food, exercise, reading and screentime, it will not turn them into fascists or repressed future addicts trust me.
>>2615387also, there is another retarded argument
>if you don't let them watch tiktok they will be out of the loop and werid, they will be bullied and have no friendsand of course everyone is very sociable due to screens right? everyone has perfect social skills now because screens help in that right?
>>2615387Yes, people shouldn't have access to information, they should hang out in parking lot wastelsnds and malls
>>2615391do you consider all information to be equal value? I guess skibidi rizz 67 tiktok compilation is technically information.
>>2615390Screen time is causing neurotypical children to eco it symptoms of autism like no eye contact and dogshit social skills. It’s scary as hell.
Just get off TikTok and go for a walk or do whatever you love outside of social media
>>2613171iPad kid final boss
>What do you want to be when you're older?
<I want to be a gaming/tech review YouTuber
I did get, as the kids say "the ick" when I heard that from my niece and nephew, I think the primary issue is that kids don't have aspirations that would warrant an interest in studying. Yeah becoming an astronaut was about as likely as becoming a millionaire YouTuber, but when I was a kid being "whatever you wanted to be" was predicated on studying hard to get the necessary knowledge and wisdom to be able to pick your own job.
But the kids have been conditioned to only want slop, (in-game microtransaction slop, "collectable" mystery box slop, internet personality merch slop, energy drink slop, etc) the purpose of work is solely to afford slop, if you're a YouTube tech reviewer then you get the slop for free to sell to other people and if you're good at that then you get paid to receive slop.
If acquiring slop is the goal set for kids, then getting paid to consooom slop is the dream, in the same way turning your passion project into a job and escaping the rat race was for our generations.
>>2612717Not necessarily. Welfare is when the government hands you money.
>>2617555Welfare is when government hands money to porky
>>2615479Free will is an illusion.
>>2616941>but when I was a kid being "whatever you wanted to be" was predicated on studying hard to get the necessary knowledge and wisdom to be able to pick your own jobAnon you probably just betray your class position because growing up in the ends people aspired to be shit like footballers and music producers. It's intuitive to people that going up in class is no longer feasible and the only way they see one of fee routes is in becoming a celebrity.
>>2617612Being a footballer and a music producer both require study, wisdom and hard work.
>>261766399% chance it was put there by a Chinese Student. They love visiting the grave; leave loads of Yuan there.
>>2617663They’re made in China so Labubu is objectively /ourtoy/.
>>2617683Aren't all toys made in China?
>>2602627>>2603824Does anyone else think these types of videos of little kids are basically pedo-bait?
>>2617727No. What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>2617727You're right anon, we need to ban all images of children, we can't let the nonces get ahold of them
One thing no one is bringing up ITT is how many Gen Alphas are essentially “island children” in that they’re the only child AND the only grandchild. My nephew is three and it hit my brother and sister-in-law this Christmas that he will be alone his whole life without siblings or cousins, because I have no kids and my SiL’s only brother is severely autistic. This causes a lot of kids to look for “companionship” in electronics.
>>2618825And your nephew will probably be the one assigned to care for his autistic uncle when his parents get too old and can’t do it anymore.
Shot like this is exactly why the One Child Policy failed so miserably: a single kid ends up having to be responsible for all other family members simultaneously.
>>2618847Imagine spending your teen years being forced to help your mom wipe your uncle’s ass and balls. Ouch.
You need to all stop being such fucking boomers.
>>2618847NGL low birthrates are terrible for disabled folks. Who provides us with care if we have no siblings?
>>2618927A strong American left could implement the reforms needed to provide for disabled people. But since we don't have that, the disabled are the sole responsibilities of their families.
>>2602855I'm an aging millennial, and when I ask my fellow aging millennial friends why they haven't had kids they all say it's because they don't trust themselves to be parents. Not wanting to continue generational trauma is a big one.
What's sad is that these kinds of mentalities are what stops the people who should be raising kids from having kids, all while right-wingers who don't give a shit about trauma end up having bucketloads of kids.
>>2613754i can corroborate a lot of these sentiments.
kids who at 8-9-10 have lost all interest in life. They dont dream of anything, they dont risk dreaming either for fear of being seen caring. They have no interests except brainrot. they will literally tell me their interests are brainrot. you initially think its a bullshit answer and they are just playing around but no, they come to school shattered cos a really significant amount of them spend all night till 2am on screens watching brainrot.
The kids are violent, abusive and selfish in the extreme. any number of the things the kids routinely say wouldve got me suspended as a kid. let alone the violence. The education system as it stands gives the children no punishment worth shit and they know it.
The American empire has done such inexplicable horrors to the world but the one that routinely does most damage to me and my country is the social media companies theyve invaded my country with
>>2619080>The kids are violent, abusive and selfish in the extreme.So I guess the gentle parenting didn't turn them into compassionate people, then?
>>2619096i dont think its gentle parenting. i dont think the parents are there at all. the parents are glued to their phones and vapes whenever i see them. waiting in the car, waiting to go to a meeting, waiting for their kid to leave class, walking from one area to another. Its brutal. every moment i see these parents they are on their phones. why wouldnt it be the same at home?
>>2619096Gentle parenting makes kids authoritarian.
>>2602855Similar to your point: many parents have no desire to teach their kids how to be self-reliant. They don't teach their kids how to brush their teeth, tie their shoes, make themselves a sandwich when they're hungry, or fix a broken doorknob. They expect their kids to live in mutual aid-based environments where others will do everything for them.
Deliberately retarding your kid's development like this is neglectful as fuck.
>muh culture war
>>2626712It's not a culture war.
>>2602855This. Kids are apathetic because the parents are apathetic.
>>2619106I think a big part of that is there being a lot of the pop culture these days just shit-talk parenthood exclusively. There's very little "parenthood is magical!" to counter-act "parenthood is putting your life on hold, you must choose between kids and that big executive job".
>>2602873>Not really "gentle" and more neglectfulGentle parenting always leads to neglectful parenting. When parents focus entirely on smothering their kids with affection and have no real expectations for them the kids end up becoming entitled, self-centered, and apathetic.
>>2626757Yeah it seems like people act as though there’s no middle ground between beating your children and having them diagnosed with every excuse under the sun for their behaviour.
I think it’s just easier that way, I don’t think anyone enjoys disciplining children, telling them their grades are disappointing, taking their toys away when it’s time to do their homework or chores, pressuring them to take up a hobby or learn a skill, etc so it’s better to just frame discipline or just “parenting” in general as an intrinsically traumatic experience for children and they “deserve better”
>>2626762I question how many of these gentle-parented gen alphas will be able to handle a real revolution, since they have no coping skills and can't handle challenges. If you were gentle parented you were never taught how to push through challenges and discomforts, so you start to doubt yourself and give up. And you start thinking in terms of "I have no real obligations, I'll only do something when I feel like doing it" even if you need to do it for the sake of something bigger than yourself. Internal motivation isn't enough, you need some external motivation in your life (e.g. doing something for "the cause" even if you personally don't benefit from it in the short-term, like sabotaging a weapons factory knowing you'll get arrested and brutalized by cops but doing it anyway because fighting imperialism is more important).
>>2626768In my experience on leftypol, they can scarcely handle discussing imperialism, let alone discussing revolution against it.
I'm gonna be the cool uncle who shows kids selected good shows from yesteryear on my old tee vee.
It's not much, but it helps.
I think this ties into the lack of independence in outside play children now experience. My sister is raising children in an extremely low crime medium sized town in England. Her eldest child is 10, and she can barely ever spend time outside with her friends by herself. It's not because my sister doesn't let her, but that she doesn't have any friends who are allowed outside by themselves. When I was a kid, pretty much from 7 years old onwards we spent all the weekend and summer holidays outside at the park with friends, playing football or scraping together enough money to buy sweets, typical kid shit. Half of us didn't even have mobile phones then, parents just accepted that it was super low risk and that all the kids would come home for lunch and then before it got dark. Nowadays, in spite of most children getting smartphones very young, parents don't seem willing to let them out to the park or whereever by themselves. Again, this is in the most low crime and low traffic town you can imagine. Absolutely no idea what is going on in parent's heads that makes them think kids aged 8-12 arent mature enough to play with friends independently, but it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy of learned dependence.
God only knows what this is doing to children's development, mentally and socially. Neural pathways not being developed, social skills not being gained, and most of all, confidence and joy in outdoors activity not being acquired. Just a goddamn mess. I don't know how widespread this phenomenon is but I suspect it's closely tied to the rise of terminally online brainrot addicted Gen Alphas across the west.
I'm willing to throw that whole generation into the meat grinder.
How is spending all day on an iPad any different than spending all day reading? You truly believe there’s a hierarchy of pleasures in life?
>>2626785Do people even use nukechan?
>>2631182If there’s no hierarchy of pleasures then you might as well gamble and do fentanyl all day
>>2631186No, explain to me why iPads are somehow more toxic than reading books all day of spending all day playing sports.
>>2631190Even trash genre fiction doesn’t have slot machines embedded within them, iPad gives you the power to gamble on live tables, virtual slots, bet on any sport or political event
>>2631196Okay, and how does online gambling make an iPad worse?
>>2631199Something something poverty tax nihilism suicide rate
>>2631202What does my question have to do with philosophy?
>>2631259youre abstracting two completely different concrete actions into meaninglessness
>>2631182>>2631190Reading stimulates the mind.
Sports stimulate the body.
iPad addiction does neither. Especially if the iPad is used for playing mindless games like Roblox.
by banning commercialization of behavior and attention via social media banning data and bandwidth monopolization, copyright for software, the idea of buying more bandwidth this is popular right now due all the AI outrage. the fact that this thread is 90% anti children shit just shows how worthless you are all are fuck all of you.
just be a better parent yeah ok and you cant even be a parent.
>>2626768They will be disciplined in workplace.
There's no use in redeeming Gen Alpha when AI will be doing 90% of the work 10 years from now. Just wait until they reach high school where AI will have effectively replaced written assignments.
>>2626768>"I have no real obligations, I'll only do something when I feel like doing it" This is precisely why Kanye the Aspie refuses to drop like half his discography.
>>2602627Millennial boomer here. (Week 1 4chan opening 2003, Gaia Online before that, before that just random phpBB forums, before that Usenet, so a lot of experience with online communities).
Issue with Zoomers is they grew up largely online, during the peak of woke which made them all super thin skinned little fucking groupthink narcs who go running to the mods anytime they see a nono thought (look at the state of leftypol and its beyond shit tier eggshells tier moderation today), A lot of the woke shit they gobbled down was largely just out of context Tumblr bullshit they interpreted in the worst and most insufferable way which became a large part of Zoomer culture (example: Millennials complaining about grooming gangs where 25-30 year olds would hang out at high school for their 16 year old girlfriends became "if you are 27 and have a 24 year old girlfriend you're a paedophile"), Covid absolutely fucked zoomers entrance into the real world and socialization, they spent much of their University years in lockdown and doing everything remote leading to more focus on online trends rather than real world ones, being terminally online and terminally Tumblr brained and hyper-politicization led to youth subcultures being replaced with online political activism. This is why Zoomers are also the most culturally sterile generation of the modern age, there are no meaningful Zoomer genres, no meaningful zoomer artists, no meaningful zoomer scenes, no meaningful zoomer music etc because it all got replaced with dogshit political takes and LARPing.
Also just for me, they are the single most annoying generation online (though it might be alphas as well), they are pathologically snarky and bad faith, they can't take any fucking criticism, they can't stand people having different opinions than them, they project like crazy and have no fucking critical thinking skills, the terrible socialization and lack of experience in the real world is way more than it was with us Millennials. I had friends straight out of highschool into Government and Corporate careers (College/Uni was less of a thing in the early 2000s), Zoomers are in their mid to late 20s and still act and talk like they are fucking teenagers in high school and have no understanding how normal people actually think or act. They're doing teenage LARPing of being an adult rather than being an adult. This is a large part of why I think online discourse has gone to shit as well, Zoomers are basically know it all teenagers who think they know everything from fucking Tumblr discourse of all things, but they are in their late 20s wtf.
>>2638607>wokeStopped reading lmao
Who cares? What’s the point? They’re the final generation anyway
>>2638607>Millennial boomer here. (Week 1 4chan opening 2003, Gaia Online before that, before that just random phpBB forums, before that Usenet, so a lot of experience with online communities).So fucking what? You wanna get a medal for being a graybeard atop shit mountain? As if the early 2000s internet wasn't also a period of rampant narcissists run amok on forums. The only difference being that you might've had more anonymity before the panopticon really set in, but that only made the people using the internet then even more narcissistic. I bet you were a tryhard then like how you sound right now.
>Issue with Zoomers is they grew up largely online, during the peak of woke which made them all super thin skinned little fucking groupthink narcs who go running to the mods anytime they see a nono thought (look at the state of leftypol and its beyond shit tier eggshells tier moderation today)Borderline projection. The internet/social media has become so ubiquitous that growing up without the internet is little more than memories to remind older people about something to be angry over. If it weren't for their jobs disciplining their phone time, I'd bet money that Millennials would be little better than Boomer dads and Gen-X housewives with their internet addiction like the rest of us.
>Covid absolutely fucked zoomers entrance into the real world and socialization, they spent much of their University years in lockdown and doing everything remote leading to more focus on online trends rather than real world ones …Sure, though those were trends that were years or decades in the making that Covid simply accelerated
>… being terminally online and terminally Tumblr brained and hyper-politicization led to youth subcultures being replaced with online political activism.Sure, but at the heart of this notion–the idea that cultural consumption is capable of being a complete stand-in for political activism–can be traced back at least to the Boomers. The only real difference is that nearly all of fandom has been consumed into this culture/political arguments by-proxy, where political debate over fiction has become just another vector to argue how "[x] group aren't
real fans!"
>This is why Zoomers are also the most culturally sterile generation of the modern age, there are no meaningful Zoomer genres, no meaningful zoomer artists, no meaningful zoomer scenes, no meaningful zoomer music etc because it all got replaced with dogshit political takes and LARPing.Fuck you man. Most Zoomers are statistically children of Gen-Xers, who were almost totally eclipsed by the Boomers in pop culture. Millennials likewise are mostly the children of Boomers. What the fuck have Millennials done with culture that wasn't constantly living in the shadow of their parents that they resent anyway? I guess you won't have to worry for long. Once most of the Boomers die off and you Millennials finally get your gibs in inheritance when you turn 58, you'll finally have your place in the sun to crank out forgettable nostalgia-bait slop.
>Also just for me, they are the single most annoying generation online (though it might be alphas as well), they are pathologically snarky and bad faith, they can't take any fucking criticism, they can't stand people having different opinions than them, they project like crazy and have no fucking critical thinking skills, the terrible socialization and lack of experience in the real world is way more than it was with us Millennials. I had friends straight out of highschool into Government and Corporate careers (College/Uni was less of a thing in the early 2000s), Zoomers are in their mid to late 20s and still act and talk like they are fucking teenagers in high school and have no understanding how normal people actually think or act. They're doing teenage LARPing of being an adult rather than being an adult. This is a large part of why I think online discourse has gone to shit as well, Zoomers are basically know it all teenagers who think they know everything from fucking Tumblr discourse of all things, but they are in their late 20s wtf.This part is pure fucking bait. If you're serious about this, then all I got to say is you literally started this, and the only reason why you find it annoying is because the Zoomers and Gen Alpha kids are like peering into a mirror and you can't stand the sight of your own shit.
t. "Zillennial", if that even means anything
>>2638607Unc thinks we'll be reading allat 💀
>>2631182>You truly believe there’s a hierarchy of pleasures in life?Some online activities are measurably healthier than others. I'd rather my kid be surfing the web and building a personal website than rotting on twitter, live streams and short form videos.
>>2631774Depends what 'games' you're playing on Roblox, but yeah Minecraft, Vintage Story and Hytale are healthier, and reading is essential.
Sports are overrated though, as someone that grew up on sports. Puts you in the company of anti-social chuds that are usually on hard drugs, and overexposes you to the sun.
>>2652133Roblox is a haven for child predators.
>>2602627>>2603824Gekyume has been exploited since birth. Modern-day Macaulay Culkin.
It pains me to say, but I can't help but think that the children of right-wingers might end up academically better-off than the children of "trauma informed" millennial liberals, because at least right-wingers are proactive in their parenting and make an effort to teach their children (which certainly amounts to indoctrination, but it's still education nonetheless). This could mean that in the future universities are full of kids raised on right-wing values, and in a few decades time the ivory tower will be fully conservative again.
>>2657926No. Kids raised by right-wing parents will go on to deconstruct their upbringings and become communists.
>>2602627>TV shows like Arthurimma just say Arthur is a damn good show.
>>2652133>Sports are overrated though, as someone that grew up on sports. Puts you in the company of anti-social chuds that are usually on hard drugs,Terrible take. What sport was like this? And why do you generalize it to others?
>and overexposes you to the sun.Sun protection exists. I'm sorry if your parents and school neglected this.
Obligatory mention of 3SF:
https://nukechan.net/social/thread/310.html “iPad kids” are another moral hysteria indicative of the culture war. How does someone else’s kid using an iPad at a young age affect you or your kid? Seriously all this hysteria over “gen alpha can’t read” or “gen alpha is addicted to screens” is nothing but the older generation feeling threatened by anti-authoritarian millennial parenting styles. Boomers see children as property and want to reinforce this idea. Millennials and zoomers understand that children are autonomous individuals who should be treated as equals to adults.
We don't, if anything we should boost it, ADHD retards are bad for profits
>>2660380Those iPad kids will be the ones responsible for the care of the older generations in a few decades. What happens in 30-40 years when the Gen Alphas are just as incompetent as the elderly millennials and zoomers they’re assigned to care for? What about care for the disabled? You think a former iPad kid can take care of a level 3 autistic adult when the former iPad kid is barely able to do anything on their own?
Schooling itself is outdated or will soon be in 10 years. The problem is that teachers today keep acting as if it’s still 1996 and use the exact same teaching methods that they were exposed to in 1996. The times have changed due to tech. We don’t need to learn math because our smartphones have calculators. We don’t need to read novels because ChatGPT can summarize them. We don’t need to learn history or science because we all have access to Wikipedia. Instead of demanding Luddism we should be rethinking the whole purpose of education itself. Teach kids critical thinking and logic instead of facts they can look up online in two seconds. AI will soon be doing most of the teaching for us anyway.
>>2660380This. It’s no different than people who push for weed prohibition. It’s not about health but about solidifying one group’s power over another.
>>2660453You want a person whose brain never properly developed due to prolonged screen use as a kid to care for you when you’re elderly?
>>2660380Having an iPad raise your kid for you isn't "anti-authoritarian parenting". It's neglectful.
i read an opinion on another website that said that reading is going to get cool again because no one reads so its become like some elite hipster thing to be into books again like in the same way obscure music used to be consumed by hipsters
Anyways, there has to be a backlash to this culture of hyper over stimulation eventually, i picture the next generation being laid back dudes who want to chill instead of doom scroll for eternity
but who knows.
>>2660544We already have cool kids who read books instead of smartphones, they're Performative Men.
>>2638607wth unc yappin abt 💀
>>2660544I've seen the term "Chronically Offline" be mentioned as the next big thing for young people and honestly I wouldn't be against it.
>>2602967Pretty sure it's one of those lines the feds feed to radlibs to get them to bicker about stupid shit.
Ban tictock and all other form of brainrot material.
I don't like it either but it's the only solution.
And what will be done is that it will be used as a justification to force realID over the entire internet.
>>2657956Zizek supports NATO
>>2638607Trvke
And we gotta organize with these freaks
Tumblr brained fuckin zoomers are the worst. Everything is fuckin ableism.
>>2602627The only realistic solution is creating a healthy social environment around children that is free to access and fun to them. Parents were never able to "just parent properly", children always grow up in a society and parents are just human beings who can never direct that process all that much.
>>2660380Talk to anyone who's been working as a teacher or college/university professor for at least 15 years and they'll tell you that there are noticeable problems in the way kids and young adults behave today vs. how they behaved 10-15 years ago. A close friend of mine (who is also a Marxist) has been a poli sci professor at a notable state university since 2004. He's told me that the students he's taught in his freshman-level intro course for the past three or four years have been the worst groups of students he's ever dealt with. For one thing, no one takes education seriously. He says the students in his freshman course never initiate intellectual discussions, ever. They don't care. They may say a thing or two about Israel-Palestine or about something stupid Trump has said but they can't keep a conversation going. They also can't read, and I mean they seriously can't read. My prof friend will assign chapters in the textbook that are only 10 pages or so long and only a handful of the students will actually do the reading because most of them can't read at all. But the worst thing he's told me is discovering all the "algorithm speak" in the essays his students write. They will literally use buzzwords from TikTok like "un-alived" or "graped" for raped or "jenny-cide" for genocide in what's supposed to be university research papers. He's said he's at the point where he's going to mark down any paper that uses such repulsive and unprofessional terminology. I asked him about how the freshmen he teaches today compare to the freshmen he's taught in other years and he says the ones today are way, way worse, just because they treat education so flippantly and have very real deficits in how they learn.
In other words, yes, "iPad kids" are a real social problem. This isn't moralism but recognizing the effects electronic addiction has on the mind and the way the mind gathers knowledge.
>So fucking what? You wanna get a medal for being a graybeard atop shit mountain?I'm showing how being online in the 1990s and 2000s didn't make me turn out to be a little histeronic thin skinned faggot like most Zoomers are who are little fucking narcs who can't stand opinions that don't 1:1 match theirs and go running to mummy and daddy mods for the no no opinion that makes them feel bad. The internet until 2008 was a pretty fucking mean place and that built graft among us Millennials that bitch ass Zoomers don't have.
>The internet/social media has become so ubiquitous that growing up without the internet is little more than memories to remind older people about something to be angry over. If it weren't for their jobs disciplining their phone time, I'd bet money that Millennials would be little better than Boomer dads and Gen-X housewives with their internet addiction like the rest of us.We had the internet, the difference was the internet was poorly moderated back then and was seriously mean. People would tear into your ass if you said anything retarded, being a little faggot snitch who runs to the mods would get everyone, including the mods clowning on your ass. "Just turn the computer off you faggot lol" would the be the standard response to anybody crying about decorum or no no opinions back in the day from 4chan to Digg to Early Reddit to Facebook etc. The difference now is zoomers internalized toxic inclusivity, everyone is heckin valid and anybody who has mildly a different opinion than me is a Nazi and the mods need to ban them.
I mean, look at Leftypol, where NAZBOL GANG originated from our community, they were one of the most creative meme groups on Leftypol, yet they would get banned within 5 minutes now. Was Leftypol shittier when they were around? NO, Classic Leftypol before the BO became a thin skinned banhammer nutcase was way fucking better.
>complete stand-in for political activism–can be traced back at least to the Boomers. True and we can see that in hysterias like "omg people who like sisters of mercy literally worship Satan", "Pokemon is devil worshipping", "omg I smoked a joint and listened to Pink Floyd i'm such a rebel" but seriously took off Post-Gamergate, Gamergate is actually a super important period in how consumption became politics. It also showed Corpos that politics and consumer identity can be melded and they've gone full steam with that ever since which has accelerated this trend among not just Zoomers but Millennials as well.
>What the fuck have Millennials done with culture that wasn't constantly living in the shadow of their parents that they resent anyway?Cope, Boomers, Gen X and Millennials were all hyper creative generations that created new forms and genres of music, have tonnes of hyper influential fashion designers and artists, all had their own real genuine scenes and counter-cultures.
Zoomers literally turn the past into a corpo Hot topic aesthetic and wear it as a season, they have never invented any new genre (even shit like Hyper-pop, Soundcloud Rap, Hypebeast which is associated with Zoomers was actually late Millennial) they have zero counter-culture at all.
Zoomers were played a bad hand, but even then it's pathetic the cultural output of Zoomers is literally… nothing.
>If you're serious about this, then all I got to say is you literally started this, and the only reason why you find it annoying is because the Zoomers and Gen Alpha kids are like peering into a mirror and you can't stand the sight of your own shit.Never reported anybody to a mod ever in my life lmao. Most (non tumblr) Millennials are not crybaby losers who have a existential meltdown if they see the word faggot or retarded or see a opinion they can't stand, most Millennials who are like this are either Tumblr brained or Type As playing the ladder climbing game using it to knock out their competition.
Just look at Leftypol, filled with Zoomers now and the mods literally ban you for having the exact same position as Marx, Engels or Lenin because it's "problematic" to "intersectionality" bullshit.
Yes I put the blame of Woke shit on Millennials actually, but it's not the majority of us, just the Tumblrite/Feminist retards who started this shit, but Zoomers took that crap and turned it into a tornado of fucking horseshit. If us Millennials were the PLA then Zoomers are the Radical Red Guard. One comes from the other and technically on the same team but the application is very different.
>>2661963Third of kids today in the UK literally cannot read and try swipe books like Ipads. Not even kidding.
>>2662047Screen addiction is WAY WORSE than alcohol or tobacco addiction, and in a few decades from now the data will prove this.
>>2662047Millennials are the 🚂 generation and if you accidentally deadname one they break down in a fit of hysteria. You are NOT the tough guy, homo.
>>2662047>Millennials are not crybaby losers who have a existential meltdown if they see the word faggot or retarded or see a opinion they can't standGeg, you're such a larping faggot its unreal. Just admit you want people to suck your cock and validate how BADASS AND AGAINST THE GRAIN AND NOT LIKE OTHER BOYS you are. It would make this embarrassing peacocking of mental masturbation a lot more dignifying then trying to play it off like some kind of form intellectualism from a wannabe tortured genius.
>I mean, look at Leftypol, where NAZBOL GANG originated from our community, they were one of the most creative meme groups on Leftypol, yet they would get banned within 5 minutes now. Was Leftypol shittier when they were around? NO, Classic Leftypol before the BO became a thin skinned banhammer nutcase was way fucking better. The NAZBOL GANG shit died out because it was an obvious meme ideology that no one but absolute retards actually believed in, it was never going to stick around once it became old and stale. And the only time I ever see people getting banned is when they are derailing threads with shit completely unrelated to the topic of said thread, the mods don't even ban people for being a NEETSOC or far-right retard, you can even make threads debating leftists on this very site if you wanted too, just don't shit up threads not even tangentially related to it.
>>2662047unc thinks hes tuff because he called people faggot retards on a image board 200 years ago
Mods permaban everyone for idpol
>>2602627I blame the millennial and zoomer obsession with trauma. Parents are so obsessed with raising trauma-free kids that they’re willing to deprive them of meaningful life experiences and instead keep them glued to the iPad.
>>2666946A lot of millennials have the same narcissistic tendencies as their Boomer parents, just without the money.
>>2662047Shit like this is why zoomCHADS are so much better than millenioids. You VVILL be vvoke, you VVILL be b& for saying slurs, you VVILL respect the pronouns!
>>2626757>>2602873actual millenial parent here. there is truth to what you guys say. some (not enough) of us try to take the kids outside without devices once a day. I go on mile walks with my toddler. it's hard to strike a work/life balance with the kids. instead of giving my kid a tablet, I let them watch 1 hour of traditional TV a day before their bath, but the rest of their time they have to spend with their toys, and so forth.
a lot of kids from my child's age cohort are getting hit with autism diagnoses (including my own) and some of them struggle with potty training, language learning, etc.
>>2666946>why is [group] like [this negative encounter online]why are you as an individual asking loaded questions? and why is it you in particular? do not use your demographics as an excuse.
>>2670437you will get hit with the genpol by alphas soon
>>2670548I have to ask: who is going to provide care for all of those autistic kids when their parents get too old and can’t do it? There’s a care worker crisis as it is, and it’s only going to get worse in a few decades.
>>2670825That tech won’t be developed in time.
Don't just blame the kids and the parents, blame the school system for routinely failing the kids. Public schools in America have been dogshit since the early 2000s when the focus became less on the acquisition of knowledge and more on how well students take tests. That's why you have so many straight-A students who are actually really fucking dumb and have no intellectual interests.
>>2660380Kids need responsibilities and the ability to understand obligations to others. This can't come from having infinite choices and emotional mirroring like what gentle parents seek to do.
>>2662047>Falling for the muh millennials vs zoomers culture warCringe honestly
>>2602627Ruling class benefits from a weak population that isn't able to defend itself (but is able to create surplus value).
>>2670823not all autistic people are incapable of taking care of themselves. that's a complete misunderstanding of what autism is. Especially since the "spectrum" which diagnoses fall under has widened in the past several decades. What used to merely be considered aspergers, for example, is now considered high functioning autism.
Then you have the fact that plenty of "neurotypical" people are incapable of taking care of themselves, due to drug and alcohol addiction, chronic joblessness, etc. You could say those are undiagnosed people, and you may be right, but the whole idea of "neurotypical" is a bit of a misnomer in the first place. Most people have
something wrong with them and most people are social animals who survive in a social setting rather than isolated. The meme of surviving by yourself in self-imposed solitary confinement, in nature, the literal Robinson Crusoe gold standard of bourgeois economists, it doesn't make any sense, and the fact that we construct our mental health diagnoses around it also doesn't make sense.
>>2666970In my experience as a parent: Most parents don't actually do this. Maybe it's because I live in a more "backwards" area where people still go outside… but in my experience most parents take their kids outside and don't give them tablet 24/7. That's an outlier
>>2671763Autistic people are way more likely to need assisted living services. I know an autistics woman who was late diagnosed level 2 and she has said she can’t live alone and will need to move into a group home once her parents can’t provide for her anymore. Where will she go when the care homes have wait lists that go on for 10+ years?
>>2666970As long as your not leaving your kid unattended with pedophiles so you can party uninterrupted your doing alright.
>>2671763>Most people have something wrong with them and most people are social animals who survive in a social setting rather than isolated. The meme of surviving by yourself in self-imposed solitary confinement, in nature, the literal Robinson Crusoe gold standard of bourgeois economists, it doesn't make any sense, and the fact that we construct our mental health diagnoses around it also doesn't make sense. This is a full blown deflection and highly belittling of the disabled. You’re basically pulling an “all lives matter” statement.
>>2666827They will probably make AI music and attach this kid’s name to it.
>>2631182I think reducing everything down to 'pleasure' is part of the problem
>>2602627It's a socialization crisis. The old moral norms and values will no longer apply to a generation that's been raised entirely online from birth. The problem is, in order for communities to function you need some kind of predictability, since predictability is the basis of trust, and gen alpha iPad kids will have to learn some kind of moral norms in order to ensure that predictability. The reasons classrooms are hell and so many teachers are quitting now is because gen alphas have very sporadic behaviours and can't be told to sit down and do their math worksheets.
>>2666970It's the modern day "stranger danger". Back in the day, kids used to have a lot more freedom. Look at how kids growing up in NYC in the 70s used to be raised by the entire apartment building. Neighbours all took care of each others' kids. Today most parents would freak at the very idea of having their neighbours look after their kids for a few hours.
I hate to be "that comrade" but I also blame some of this on daycares. Parents who have to work stick their kids in daycares where their kids' worlds shrink.
Millennials and zoomers were priced out of adulthood, so it makes sense that they would see their own gen alpha children as friends rather than the people they need to have authority over.
>>2666970They think having a full experience of life is "trauma".
>>2680752So, accelerationism?
>>2680715Have you even lived if you haven't been molested at least once?
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