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How exactly do we successfully fight against and reverse Gen Alpha brainrot?

https://youtube.com/shorts/h2i3cGyzNKo

This stuff is becoming alarming. When I was a little kid in the 90s I would watch stuff that had actual substance to it (think: Disney renaissance, Don Bluth films, TV shows like Arthur). Plus our parents made an effort to read to us and get us looking at science books and history books for kids. When I babysit my neighbours’ kids who are eight and six (both boys) I’m horrified by how stupid they are. They can’t read at all. They can’t play musical instruments. They don’t do arts and crafts. They have the vocabularies of preschool-aged kids. They can’t do math and the eight-year old asks me to do his math homework for him. Both of them are either glued to their iPads or glued to watching YouTube on TV. It’s sad as hell. What do?

>>2602627
>How exactly do we successfully fight against and reverse Gen Alpha brainrot?
By making communist-oriented brainrot.

Tell the parents frankly that their kids are retarded and that they are to blame.

>>2602651
It's not just the fault of the parents though. It's also the fault of a failing school system and a culture that has increasingly moved childhood to centre around electronics like iPads/Tablets.

>>2602655
It's the fault of the parent to not detect this as a problem early on and protect the kids. The majority of millenials should have been castrated to be honest.
Now just imagine the retarded mongrels that Gen Z will give birth to when they grow up.

What if the problem with kids is that fewer people who would make good parents are deciding to become parents at all? And it's impossible for families to be immune to the consequences of what other families are doing, so everyone ends up affected.

All the smart people don't want kids because they worry they're going to fuck their kids up the same way their boomer parents fucked them up, so all the kids are born to stupid people who simply didn't care. Could that be it?

>>2602671
This could be it, they aren't obligated to, anymore, and the worse off people end up spreading their genes which is worse off in the long run.

>>2602627
>muh culture
Mods, permaban this OP

>>2602692
Not just genes but also socialization. Stupid people tend to raise stupid kids. They don't understand the value of reading to your kids or teaching your kids about science and history.

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>>2602651
This
I'm genuinely sick of society's aversion to calling out bad parenting and simply expect these kids to magically cure themselves when they're 18. This isn't a movie, there won't be a third act turnaround. A lot of these kids will end up failures if shit doesn't change.

>>2602627
>This stuff is becoming alarming. When I was a little kid in the 90s-
Lol, just more mental masturbation surrounded around a "I'm not like other boys!" attitude. If you want someone to kiss your ass and validate your ego then you would have far better results on 4cuck where this mindset is widespread. And using the "BACK IN MY DAY" shit too? The lowest form of self masturbation for the ego too.

>>2602752
Dont worry, China will save the day. Their kids arent like that.

>>2602752
Usually, the shitty spineless parents expect schoolteachers to do all the disciplining for them. You should see what elementary school teachers are saying about the kids they teach. It's nightmare material.

>>2602768
It's just a continuous race to the bottom, material conditions have gotten worse for every generation since WW2 and its bred a mindset of "Well, why should I be burdened with raising my children if MY needs aren't being met?" and it just gets worse and worse from there. The modern generation is one born from parents who grew up as Reddit, 4chan, Newgrounds, sociopathic manchildren who in turn were raised by Gen-X with their issues and then the boomers and so on. The post-war hyper capitalist system the US built up has ironically been its downfall in the long term. And of course, from a communist perspective it was to be expected.

>>2602768
>>2602789
I place the bulk of the blame on the gentle parenting trend. Xennials and millennials were raised by boomer parents during the era of neoliberalism. They groomed their kids into being mini-adults at a very young age in order to prepare them for corporate jobs. Then the economy crashed in 2008 and all those dreams fell apart. So, xennials and millennials have decided to raise their gen alpha kids in the polar opposite way. They want their kids to focus on being “good people” instead of smart people. There's no point to wanting a smart child if you know your kid will grow up to be nothing other than a Starbucks barista or Amazon warehouse worker. Smart people are still living with their parents well into adulthood just like literal retards, so the parents of gen alphas think it's more important for kids to learn compassion on the basis it will create a more compassionate, less harsh economic system in the future. Ironically, this bullshit ends up creating a lot of authoritarian and fascist tendencies in kids because the kids start acting like the dominant force in the household. When the people who are supposed to be your authority figures are soft and cowardly you start becoming the authority.

Also, you need to be intelligent in order to be truly compassionate. Like, you have to have intellect to hold a concept of justice and understand why a just world needs to exist. There's a reason why the stupidest people you know are also some of the meanest and least considerate of others. Actual retarded people often times become aggressive and have violent meltdowns because they can't express their pain and anger through words.

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>>2602855
Not really "gentle" and more neglectful
I've been around millennial parents and they barely pay attention to their kid. Similar to past gens but this time they have a portable dopamine machine to place in their hands rather than plopping them in front of the tv or sending them into the woods.
The truth is that most Americans never wanted children, they only have them because condoms don't feel good.

>>2602873
>Similar to past gens but this time they have a portable dopamine machine to place in their hands rather than plopping them in front of the tv or sending them into the woods.
They use iPads as substitute parents, yes. A lot of us grew up with TV, video game consoles, and Gameboys, but the difference between that and what we're seeing now is staggering. We would watch TV and play Nintendo/Playstation together as friends. Even the Gameboy games we used to play required intellect (lots of puzzle games and adventure games where we had to save our progress). Nowadays the games young kids play are completely mindless.

>>2602885
>Even the Gameboy games we used to play required intellect (lots of puzzle games and adventure games where we had to save our progress).
Oh my fucking god you people are so pretentious.

>>2602892
How is he wrong though. Look at the phone/tablet games that get advertised to children, it's pure dopamine slot machine slop. Proper children's games or edutainment are pretty much an extinct niche nowadays. It's not an "in my days I was an EPIC GAMER" thing, the industry objectively degenerated to favor the cheapest and most exploitative practices.

>>2602905
If you legitimately believe most of the consumer games made for the gameboy, DS, 3DS etc. wasn't a majority just shovelware, or even worse, actually believe that a majority of the content made back then was "edutainment" then I honestly do not know what to tell you. But, it doesn't matter anyways, because consumer products DON'T AFFECT MATERIAL CONDITIONS THAT WAY, people in the 19fucking30s were complaining about how Hollywood was churning out slop, NONE OF IT HAD ANY BEARING ON THE MATERIAL CONDITIONS IN THE US OR ELSEWHERE.

>>2602627
I year ago I was browsing the newest random vids on Youtube after Xmas and I found a vid of a 4 yrs old kid who uploaded footage of him showing around his room which included his naked little brother. Obv he couldn't know that that was inappropriate. Reported it immediately, ofc.

Fuck parents who buy toddlers tech and then let them use it unattended. For fuck's sake I was supervised playing DOS games so that I don't get to play anything too aggro or erotic, and we are talking about 640x480 pixels here with beepity boop soundcards and contemporary parents just let 4 yrs old watch intentionally erotic youtube channels aimed at 5 yrs old kids.

Similarly, when I watched TV a parent was always around, and explained to me things that we were watching ranging from the most mundane ("what's a divorce") to more explicit stuff ("sex is when mommies and daddies love each other very much and they hug and hug in bed")… Today, while going to work and taking mass transit I see kids with headphones blasting unsupervised youtube schlock into their little skulls while their parents are doing the same. The whole family unit has been atomized into private consumptions.

we need to get them off the damn phones but it all starts with the adults themselves, you can't talk against slop if you consume slop yourself.

speaking of that I'm logging off and never coming back to this site again

FUCK YOU MODS, BAN ME

>>2602930
>>2602938
What's scary is how the parents now consume the same junk the kids do albeit separately.

>>2602627
>Plus our parents made an effort to read to us and get us looking at science books and history books for kids.
Isn't the sentiment now that reading to your kids gives them an unfair advantage against other kids?

Ban everyone under 20 from using internet and throw them into socialization camps.

>>2602954
Please tell me you are joking. Even americans cannot be that dumb surely.

>>2602659
Boy am I glad I didn't have a kid. I have Autism and can barely take care of myself. I can't be expected to take care of a kid.

LABUBU

>>2602974
Track of the year.

>>2602974
At least this is better than We Are Charlie Kirk and Kanye's HH song.


Labubu or Kautskyism? Of course, Labubu.
2 Labubus or Social Chauvinism? Of course 2 Labubus.
3 Labubus or Adventurism? It's easy. 3 Labubus.
5 Labubus or N.E.P? 100% 5 Labubus.
10 Labubus or Bourgeois Revolution? 10 Labubus.
15 Labubus or War Communism? War Communism.

>>2602954
Holy liberalism batman

>>2602671
Well there's also a huge problem of skills just not being transferred to younger generations any more as society has become more specialized and practically all basic life skills are now outsourced to professionals.

>>2603003
another reason the porks bet on AI to create their cyberpunk dystopia. glad this shit seems not to work out and the upcoming generation, as sad as it is for them, will be actually incapable of building GAI because they can't read nor do basic arithmetics.

We traded too much discipline for too little.
You should not treat your kids like punching bags like old people did but you should also give them strong rules. The slopfication of culture also hit them the hardest.

>>2602692
>chvddy really believes the plot of idiocracy

>>2602942
That’s it. The parents act more like kids than the kids do.

sure is boomer in here

are children bourgeois?

>>2602917
You can’t lead a revolution with retards.


>>2602627
>https://youtube.com/shorts/h2i3cGyzNKo

Something about this channel seems very child abuse-y.

>>2602855
This is the only material explanation so far ITT.

>>2603820

>>2602974
>>2602987
>>2602990
>>2603824
Fuck off Labubu is objectively /ourtoy/.

Start talking to young revolutionaries on roblox

what if we said 1917 instead of 67? that could be the next big thing 👀

>>2603906
Based!

>>2603824
>>2603856
https://youtube.com/shorts/7oUVVbz8lHA

Latest video is literally a labubu one.

Just fuck these parents.

Idk I do know kids should be banned from phones till at least like 16. I don’t let my kid look at phone for the most part, but the few times they get ahold of one it’s like ripping a crack pipe from addict. My mother in law is bad about just shoving a phone in her face and letting YouTube auto play for her. Caught her watching some questionable stuff multiple times.

>>2603052
I try to frame discipline as a benefit, one thing my no good druggy gen X parents did for me was sit me down and tell me I will be an addict. There’s no escaping it, you got to work with it or against it.

We should bring back corporal punishment but for parents who give their kids devices and turn them into retards.

Oh what's what? Mr and Mrs Smith let little Timmy watch nonstop brainrot on his tablet and now he's illiterate? Well looks like Mr and Mrs Smith are getting the belt!

>>2602627
Honestly Australia probably has the right idea. The internet is so far gone that you can't really engage in half-measures anymore. You have to cut it off completely and let the kids grow up normally.

>>2602954
No one has ever said that at any point in human history.

>>2602855
Nah this is dumb as fuck.
Parents who want their kids to be good people aren't raising fascists. Parents who dump their child in front of a tablet are.

>>2603831
There's nothing material about it.

You embrace it, communism is tuff

>reverse
Undialectical. Brainrot is good because it shatters the pretentiousness spooks rely on to be adhesive.
>But still, art also accompanies religion, for the inwardness of man is expanded by its struggle with the Object, and in the genius of the artist it breaks forth again into a new expression, and the Object becomes yet further enhanced and illuminated. Thankfully, hardly a generation has been passed without such enlightenment by art. But, at the last, art will stand at the close of religion. Serene and confident, art will claim its own once again, and by so doing will rob the Object of its objectivity, its ‘other-sidedness’, and free it from its long religious imprisonment. Here, art no longer will enrich its Object, but totally destroy it. In reclaiming its creature, art rediscovers itself and renews its creative powers as well. It appears, at the decline of religion, as a trifling with the full seriousness of the old belief, a seriousness of content which religion has now lost, and which must be returned to the joyful poet. Hence, religion is presented as a ridiculous comedy. [6] Now, however, terrible this comedic destruction might be, it will nevertheless restore to actuality that which it thinks but to destroy. And so, we do not elect to condemn its horror!
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/max-stirner-art-and-religion

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Kill everyone in this thread

>>2604104
>Parents who want their kids to be good people aren't raising fascists. Parents who dump their child in front of a tablet are.
Depends on what you mean by "good". The problem is, the parents refusing to be authoritative (not authoritarian, but authoritative) who treat their children more like friends than children end up installing fascist tendencies in their kids, because the kids end up feeling entitled.

It's basically an economic issue. Better parenting. Ability to afford extra curriculars. They don't need to rely on technology because they have friends to do things in person with. And it's back to parenting where they are allowed social media but it's not looked at like a serious career.

>>2603003
Yeah my mom grew up on a farm and she was hellbent on teaching my brother and I how to chop food, grow our own food, and survive in the woods. I'm not bullshitting you. She taught me more about DIY shit than the Girl Scouts did.

>>2602627
It's actually pretty funny to see how much the social isolation and excessive screen time in kids causes them to have behaviours that mimic those of autism and ADHD all while not being autism and ADHD. Everyone wants to talk about how these two disorders are overly diagnosed in kids when the real culprit is the screens and severe lack of socialization.

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>>2602627
Blame the parents.

almost 67 replies

>>2602756
He says, putting a giant dragon dildo with the word "China" written on it up his ass while furiously fapping to BBC porn, knowing that he, as a white demon, is not worth of Communism

>>2602627
>>2603824
Parents who exploit their children by turning them into influencers deserve to be executed.

>>2605270
Very faggy post.
>>2605263
SIX SEVEN YEAAAAAAHHHH

>>2605477
People who outsorce the revolution to a foreign nation, rather than attempting to build it at home are the biggest fags on the planet. This is especially true when that foreign nation is China, which has repeatedly stated that it has zero interest in that kind of thing.

>>2605500
It's just like when Spartacus got free and carved its own kingdom and then made nukes he was be like "oh wow I love roman slavers let's trade slaves and stuff" and then he had a desaprobating stare each time the romans made a genocide

>>2605270
But i am worthy of chinese made high quality dragon dildo AND a device on which i am witnessing the BLACKENING of a CHINESE pornstar.

This thread is just xennials being triggered by kids, nothing changes in society

>>2606009
The kids are retarded and will being humanity back to the stone age.

>>2602627
Maybe you should explain why it's a bad thing that people are getting "dumber." We all know intellectual ability is socially constructed. Someone who may be considered "intellectually disabled" in certain societies might be considered average intelligence in others. Right now, we're getting to the point where machines will soon do most of our work both physical and intellectual. We don't need to be "geniuses" anymore when AI exists. Maybe instead of lamenting the "loss of intellect" we should instead celebrate all forms of intellect and the diversity of human intellectual ability.

>>2606026
t. misanthrope

>>2606026
Hell no

Parents need to be proactive in their children’s education. This is the real problem. The TV, iPad, and Nintendo Switch aren’t babysitters.


>>2602627
Get kids reading again.

>>2610762
The roblox > mascot horror > SCPwiki > actually reading for fun pipeline


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To begin with, you reduce the workday to a maximum of 6 hours. Parents can't do anything if they are absent or tired from work.

>>2603824
That’s Gekyume’s grandmother’s channel.

>>2611876
This TBH

Implement policies like divorcing healthcare from employment and reducing the amount of debt workers enter the workforce with. That way no one will have to work exorbitantly long hours and can actually parent their kids.

>>2612225
And better pensions, also isolated from employer. I'm on the EU and have free, universal healthcare and a bunch of welfare measures over the USA.

However, pensions and retirement keep getting held over the worker's heads because of minimum years worked and raising retirement ages and constant nickel-and-dime-ing over pension conditions, and inflation. The latter is always, always estimated way lower than it is in official statistics, so pensioners, even those with livable payments are losing money year by year when they are "adjusted to inflation".

But one can already see how liberalism addresses these issues, even if it's so called "socialist" parties doing it.

Not enough time for family life? Tax money to subsidize daycare
Not enough welfare to have any leverage over the employer? Tax money to "harm reduction" for the "less fortunate"
Shitty pensions/healthcare? Privatization
Too much unrest? Fascism and scapegoats

>>2606026
So true anon, go ahead and drink bleach and I'm sure you'll become very intellectually diverse.

>>2602627
I remember a mainstream article about a mother who vowed to enrich her child and not give him a phone like she saw other parents doing. But then there was some BS about how she met with a kid whose parents didn't let him watch TV or play games and he felt left alienated from his peers and their kid didn't know how to connect with other kids on the internet and he felt left out so she surrendered. Bleak.

Who fucking cares? They’re not growing up to be anything anyway

>How exactly do we successfully fight against and reverse Gen Alpha brainrot?
We don't, instead we conform.

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>>2602659
Im gonna have 20 kids and they're all gonna be educated with skibidi toilet and brainrot

>>2612343
That's just sad.

Childhood today is nothing but Labubu, Roblox, and 6-7.


>>2612225
>>2612232
If American socialists were smart, these are the exact programs they would push for. Raising wages is much, much more in-line with socialist goals than raising welfare. Universal healthcare, make all higher education free (so no more student debt), guaranteed housing (so rent doesn't gobble up 2/3rds of your paycheck), healthy food is dirt cheap, public transit is entirely free, etc. The less time people need to spend at work the more time they'll have to raise their fucking kids.

>>2612353
just show them this

>>2612416
Indeed. Welfare just encourages low-paid proles to give up work altogether and become welfare 'gib me fri gibs' lumpens.
He who does not work does not eat

>>2612416
>Universal healthcare, make all higher education free (so no more student debt), guaranteed housing (so rent doesn't gobble up 2/3rds of your paycheck), healthy food is dirt cheap, public transit is entirely free
These are also welfare policies

Gifting kids electronics for Christmas and birthdays should be illegal.

>>2613171
Whatchu gonn do bout it bitchtrot

Short-form video addiction proven harmful in new study:

https://psycnet.apa.org/fulltext/2026-89350-001.html

>>2603824
100% grooming this kid into becoming a child star.

>>2602627
OP, learn to embed

Gen Alpha = COOKED

>>2613675
A future public nuisance. Well done, Amerikkkan parents.

>>2613574
who coulda guessed PFLPanon

guess the prompt lilbro

>>2613675
How is this even allowed on YouTube?

>>2612353
>skibidi toilet
unironically too old for nowadays

>>2602627
Nothing

>>2613171
>that haircut
Disgusting

>>2613171
Notice how focused this child is on his iPhone. That's not normal.

>>2602627
>Plus our parents made an effort to read to us and get us looking at science books and history books for kids.
Not just read to us, I remember my dad had me read to him every other night or so, and then explain to him what I read. Reading is one thing, comprehending it is another, and I've found that the kids who are considered "literate" can barely understand what they're reading. Allowing your child to go through life like that is honestly sickening and should be considered child abuse.

>>2602659
> The majority of millenials should have been castrated to be honest.
Genpol statements like these should be banned. The american generation names are literally an interclass marketing construct

>>2614784
This. So much this. My mother would always ask us questions as she would read to us before bed so we understood what was going on in the story.

>>2613675
6-7 is such a bad song it makes Gucci Gang look like Bohemian Rhapsody.

Yikes.

I guess birth strike wasn’t a very good idea.

>>2615381
Demoncrats are doing their duty by reducing the amount of evil amerikkkan spawns. Meanwhile the migas are also controlling the burger children population by trafficking them and denying them vaccines. Everything is good

there is no way out of this other than getting restrictive with certain things, screens are addictive period.

>noo you can't prohibit access to screens this will make them more addicted later when they have them as teens or adults!!!


apply this same logic to crack cocaine, it's retarded, just be strict with your kids in things that are worth having some discipline in, like food, exercise, reading and screentime, it will not turn them into fascists or repressed future addicts trust me.


>>2615387
also, there is another retarded argument

>if you don't let them watch tiktok they will be out of the loop and werid, they will be bullied and have no friends


and of course everyone is very sociable due to screens right? everyone has perfect social skills now because screens help in that right?

>>2615387
Yes, people shouldn't have access to information, they should hang out in parking lot wastelsnds and malls

>>2615391
do you consider all information to be equal value? I guess skibidi rizz 67 tiktok compilation is technically information.

>>2615390
Screen time is causing neurotypical children to eco it symptoms of autism like no eye contact and dogshit social skills. It’s scary as hell.

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it's natural selection, if having internet access ruins your brain because you can't control yourself you are a fool and you deserve to be financially and spiritually drained by kkkapitalism.

rich/middle class folk will raise their children more mindfully than the poor, thus the poor will stay glued to their screens, consuming porn and corn syrup for eternity.


Just get off TikTok and go for a walk or do whatever you love outside of social media

>>2613171
iPad kid final boss

>What do you want to be when you're older?
<I want to be a gaming/tech review YouTuber
I did get, as the kids say "the ick" when I heard that from my niece and nephew, I think the primary issue is that kids don't have aspirations that would warrant an interest in studying. Yeah becoming an astronaut was about as likely as becoming a millionaire YouTuber, but when I was a kid being "whatever you wanted to be" was predicated on studying hard to get the necessary knowledge and wisdom to be able to pick your own job.

But the kids have been conditioned to only want slop, (in-game microtransaction slop, "collectable" mystery box slop, internet personality merch slop, energy drink slop, etc) the purpose of work is solely to afford slop, if you're a YouTube tech reviewer then you get the slop for free to sell to other people and if you're good at that then you get paid to receive slop.
If acquiring slop is the goal set for kids, then getting paid to consooom slop is the dream, in the same way turning your passion project into a job and escaping the rat race was for our generations.

>>2612717
Not necessarily. Welfare is when the government hands you money.

>>2617555
Welfare is when government hands money to porky

>>2615479
Free will is an illusion.

>>2616941
>but when I was a kid being "whatever you wanted to be" was predicated on studying hard to get the necessary knowledge and wisdom to be able to pick your own job
Anon you probably just betray your class position because growing up in the ends people aspired to be shit like footballers and music producers. It's intuitive to people that going up in class is no longer feasible and the only way they see one of fee routes is in becoming a celebrity.

>>2617597
>@Trad-West
Lol

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>>2617597

>>2617612
Being a footballer and a music producer both require study, wisdom and hard work.

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Labubu

>>2617663
99% chance it was put there by a Chinese Student. They love visiting the grave; leave loads of Yuan there.

>>2617663
They’re made in China so Labubu is objectively /ourtoy/.

>>2617683
Aren't all toys made in China?

>>2602627
>>2603824
Does anyone else think these types of videos of little kids are basically pedo-bait?

>>2617727
No. What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>2617727
You're right anon, we need to ban all images of children, we can't let the nonces get ahold of them

One thing no one is bringing up ITT is how many Gen Alphas are essentially “island children” in that they’re the only child AND the only grandchild. My nephew is three and it hit my brother and sister-in-law this Christmas that he will be alone his whole life without siblings or cousins, because I have no kids and my SiL’s only brother is severely autistic. This causes a lot of kids to look for “companionship” in electronics.

>>2618825
And your nephew will probably be the one assigned to care for his autistic uncle when his parents get too old and can’t do it anymore.

Shot like this is exactly why the One Child Policy failed so miserably: a single kid ends up having to be responsible for all other family members simultaneously.

>>2618847
Imagine spending your teen years being forced to help your mom wipe your uncle’s ass and balls. Ouch.

You need to all stop being such fucking boomers.

>>2618847
NGL low birthrates are terrible for disabled folks. Who provides us with care if we have no siblings?

>>2618927
A strong American left could implement the reforms needed to provide for disabled people. But since we don't have that, the disabled are the sole responsibilities of their families.

>>2602855
I'm an aging millennial, and when I ask my fellow aging millennial friends why they haven't had kids they all say it's because they don't trust themselves to be parents. Not wanting to continue generational trauma is a big one.

What's sad is that these kinds of mentalities are what stops the people who should be raising kids from having kids, all while right-wingers who don't give a shit about trauma end up having bucketloads of kids.

>>2613754
i can corroborate a lot of these sentiments.
kids who at 8-9-10 have lost all interest in life. They dont dream of anything, they dont risk dreaming either for fear of being seen caring. They have no interests except brainrot. they will literally tell me their interests are brainrot. you initially think its a bullshit answer and they are just playing around but no, they come to school shattered cos a really significant amount of them spend all night till 2am on screens watching brainrot.

The kids are violent, abusive and selfish in the extreme. any number of the things the kids routinely say wouldve got me suspended as a kid. let alone the violence. The education system as it stands gives the children no punishment worth shit and they know it.

The American empire has done such inexplicable horrors to the world but the one that routinely does most damage to me and my country is the social media companies theyve invaded my country with

>>2619080
>The kids are violent, abusive and selfish in the extreme.
So I guess the gentle parenting didn't turn them into compassionate people, then?

>>2619096
i dont think its gentle parenting. i dont think the parents are there at all. the parents are glued to their phones and vapes whenever i see them. waiting in the car, waiting to go to a meeting, waiting for their kid to leave class, walking from one area to another. Its brutal. every moment i see these parents they are on their phones. why wouldnt it be the same at home?

>>2619096
Gentle parenting makes kids authoritarian.

>>2602855
Similar to your point: many parents have no desire to teach their kids how to be self-reliant. They don't teach their kids how to brush their teeth, tie their shoes, make themselves a sandwich when they're hungry, or fix a broken doorknob. They expect their kids to live in mutual aid-based environments where others will do everything for them.

Deliberately retarding your kid's development like this is neglectful as fuck.

>muh culture war

>>2626712
It's not a culture war.

>>2602855
This. Kids are apathetic because the parents are apathetic.

>>2619106
I think a big part of that is there being a lot of the pop culture these days just shit-talk parenthood exclusively. There's very little "parenthood is magical!" to counter-act "parenthood is putting your life on hold, you must choose between kids and that big executive job".

>>2602873
>Not really "gentle" and more neglectful
Gentle parenting always leads to neglectful parenting. When parents focus entirely on smothering their kids with affection and have no real expectations for them the kids end up becoming entitled, self-centered, and apathetic.

>>2626757
Yeah it seems like people act as though there’s no middle ground between beating your children and having them diagnosed with every excuse under the sun for their behaviour.

I think it’s just easier that way, I don’t think anyone enjoys disciplining children, telling them their grades are disappointing, taking their toys away when it’s time to do their homework or chores, pressuring them to take up a hobby or learn a skill, etc so it’s better to just frame discipline or just “parenting” in general as an intrinsically traumatic experience for children and they “deserve better”

>>2626762
I question how many of these gentle-parented gen alphas will be able to handle a real revolution, since they have no coping skills and can't handle challenges. If you were gentle parented you were never taught how to push through challenges and discomforts, so you start to doubt yourself and give up. And you start thinking in terms of "I have no real obligations, I'll only do something when I feel like doing it" even if you need to do it for the sake of something bigger than yourself. Internal motivation isn't enough, you need some external motivation in your life (e.g. doing something for "the cause" even if you personally don't benefit from it in the short-term, like sabotaging a weapons factory knowing you'll get arrested and brutalized by cops but doing it anyway because fighting imperialism is more important).

>>2626768
In my experience on leftypol, they can scarcely handle discussing imperialism, let alone discussing revolution against it.

I'm gonna be the cool uncle who shows kids selected good shows from yesteryear on my old tee vee.
It's not much, but it helps.


I think this ties into the lack of independence in outside play children now experience. My sister is raising children in an extremely low crime medium sized town in England. Her eldest child is 10, and she can barely ever spend time outside with her friends by herself. It's not because my sister doesn't let her, but that she doesn't have any friends who are allowed outside by themselves. When I was a kid, pretty much from 7 years old onwards we spent all the weekend and summer holidays outside at the park with friends, playing football or scraping together enough money to buy sweets, typical kid shit. Half of us didn't even have mobile phones then, parents just accepted that it was super low risk and that all the kids would come home for lunch and then before it got dark. Nowadays, in spite of most children getting smartphones very young, parents don't seem willing to let them out to the park or whereever by themselves. Again, this is in the most low crime and low traffic town you can imagine. Absolutely no idea what is going on in parent's heads that makes them think kids aged 8-12 arent mature enough to play with friends independently, but it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy of learned dependence.

God only knows what this is doing to children's development, mentally and socially. Neural pathways not being developed, social skills not being gained, and most of all, confidence and joy in outdoors activity not being acquired. Just a goddamn mess. I don't know how widespread this phenomenon is but I suspect it's closely tied to the rise of terminally online brainrot addicted Gen Alphas across the west.

I'm willing to throw that whole generation into the meat grinder.

How is spending all day on an iPad any different than spending all day reading? You truly believe there’s a hierarchy of pleasures in life?

>>2626785
Do people even use nukechan?

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phil undergrads be like >>2631182

>>2631182
If there’s no hierarchy of pleasures then you might as well gamble and do fentanyl all day

>>2631186
No, explain to me why iPads are somehow more toxic than reading books all day of spending all day playing sports.

>>2631190
Even trash genre fiction doesn’t have slot machines embedded within them, iPad gives you the power to gamble on live tables, virtual slots, bet on any sport or political event

>>2631196
Okay, and how does online gambling make an iPad worse?

>>2631199
Something something poverty tax nihilism suicide rate

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>>2631190
>explain to me why iPads are somehow more toxic than reading books all day of spending all day playing sports
holy shit lmfao marx was so right about philosophy this is the kind of thinking you arrive at when abstracting everything

>>2631202
What does my question have to do with philosophy?

>>2631259
youre abstracting two completely different concrete actions into meaninglessness

>>2631182
>>2631190
Reading stimulates the mind.

Sports stimulate the body.

iPad addiction does neither. Especially if the iPad is used for playing mindless games like Roblox.

by banning commercialization of behavior and attention via social media banning data and bandwidth monopolization, copyright for software, the idea of buying more bandwidth this is popular right now due all the AI outrage. the fact that this thread is 90% anti children shit just shows how worthless you are all are fuck all of you.
just be a better parent yeah ok and you cant even be a parent.

>>2626768
They will be disciplined in workplace.

There's no use in redeeming Gen Alpha when AI will be doing 90% of the work 10 years from now. Just wait until they reach high school where AI will have effectively replaced written assignments.

>>2626768
>"I have no real obligations, I'll only do something when I feel like doing it"
This is precisely why Kanye the Aspie refuses to drop like half his discography.

>>2602627
Millennial boomer here. (Week 1 4chan opening 2003, Gaia Online before that, before that just random phpBB forums, before that Usenet, so a lot of experience with online communities).
Issue with Zoomers is they grew up largely online, during the peak of woke which made them all super thin skinned little fucking groupthink narcs who go running to the mods anytime they see a nono thought (look at the state of leftypol and its beyond shit tier eggshells tier moderation today), A lot of the woke shit they gobbled down was largely just out of context Tumblr bullshit they interpreted in the worst and most insufferable way which became a large part of Zoomer culture (example: Millennials complaining about grooming gangs where 25-30 year olds would hang out at high school for their 16 year old girlfriends became "if you are 27 and have a 24 year old girlfriend you're a paedophile"), Covid absolutely fucked zoomers entrance into the real world and socialization, they spent much of their University years in lockdown and doing everything remote leading to more focus on online trends rather than real world ones, being terminally online and terminally Tumblr brained and hyper-politicization led to youth subcultures being replaced with online political activism. This is why Zoomers are also the most culturally sterile generation of the modern age, there are no meaningful Zoomer genres, no meaningful zoomer artists, no meaningful zoomer scenes, no meaningful zoomer music etc because it all got replaced with dogshit political takes and LARPing.
Also just for me, they are the single most annoying generation online (though it might be alphas as well), they are pathologically snarky and bad faith, they can't take any fucking criticism, they can't stand people having different opinions than them, they project like crazy and have no fucking critical thinking skills, the terrible socialization and lack of experience in the real world is way more than it was with us Millennials. I had friends straight out of highschool into Government and Corporate careers (College/Uni was less of a thing in the early 2000s), Zoomers are in their mid to late 20s and still act and talk like they are fucking teenagers in high school and have no understanding how normal people actually think or act. They're doing teenage LARPing of being an adult rather than being an adult. This is a large part of why I think online discourse has gone to shit as well, Zoomers are basically know it all teenagers who think they know everything from fucking Tumblr discourse of all things, but they are in their late 20s wtf.


>>2638607
>woke
Stopped reading lmao

Who cares? What’s the point? They’re the final generation anyway

>>2638607
>Millennial boomer here. (Week 1 4chan opening 2003, Gaia Online before that, before that just random phpBB forums, before that Usenet, so a lot of experience with online communities).
So fucking what? You wanna get a medal for being a graybeard atop shit mountain? As if the early 2000s internet wasn't also a period of rampant narcissists run amok on forums. The only difference being that you might've had more anonymity before the panopticon really set in, but that only made the people using the internet then even more narcissistic. I bet you were a tryhard then like how you sound right now.
>Issue with Zoomers is they grew up largely online, during the peak of woke which made them all super thin skinned little fucking groupthink narcs who go running to the mods anytime they see a nono thought (look at the state of leftypol and its beyond shit tier eggshells tier moderation today)
Borderline projection. The internet/social media has become so ubiquitous that growing up without the internet is little more than memories to remind older people about something to be angry over. If it weren't for their jobs disciplining their phone time, I'd bet money that Millennials would be little better than Boomer dads and Gen-X housewives with their internet addiction like the rest of us.
>Covid absolutely fucked zoomers entrance into the real world and socialization, they spent much of their University years in lockdown and doing everything remote leading to more focus on online trends rather than real world ones …
Sure, though those were trends that were years or decades in the making that Covid simply accelerated
>… being terminally online and terminally Tumblr brained and hyper-politicization led to youth subcultures being replaced with online political activism.
Sure, but at the heart of this notion–the idea that cultural consumption is capable of being a complete stand-in for political activism–can be traced back at least to the Boomers. The only real difference is that nearly all of fandom has been consumed into this culture/political arguments by-proxy, where political debate over fiction has become just another vector to argue how "[x] group aren't real fans!"
>This is why Zoomers are also the most culturally sterile generation of the modern age, there are no meaningful Zoomer genres, no meaningful zoomer artists, no meaningful zoomer scenes, no meaningful zoomer music etc because it all got replaced with dogshit political takes and LARPing.
Fuck you man. Most Zoomers are statistically children of Gen-Xers, who were almost totally eclipsed by the Boomers in pop culture. Millennials likewise are mostly the children of Boomers. What the fuck have Millennials done with culture that wasn't constantly living in the shadow of their parents that they resent anyway? I guess you won't have to worry for long. Once most of the Boomers die off and you Millennials finally get your gibs in inheritance when you turn 58, you'll finally have your place in the sun to crank out forgettable nostalgia-bait slop.
>Also just for me, they are the single most annoying generation online (though it might be alphas as well), they are pathologically snarky and bad faith, they can't take any fucking criticism, they can't stand people having different opinions than them, they project like crazy and have no fucking critical thinking skills, the terrible socialization and lack of experience in the real world is way more than it was with us Millennials. I had friends straight out of highschool into Government and Corporate careers (College/Uni was less of a thing in the early 2000s), Zoomers are in their mid to late 20s and still act and talk like they are fucking teenagers in high school and have no understanding how normal people actually think or act. They're doing teenage LARPing of being an adult rather than being an adult. This is a large part of why I think online discourse has gone to shit as well, Zoomers are basically know it all teenagers who think they know everything from fucking Tumblr discourse of all things, but they are in their late 20s wtf.
This part is pure fucking bait. If you're serious about this, then all I got to say is you literally started this, and the only reason why you find it annoying is because the Zoomers and Gen Alpha kids are like peering into a mirror and you can't stand the sight of your own shit.

t. "Zillennial", if that even means anything

>>2638607
Unc thinks we'll be reading allat 💀


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>>2606026
>dark enlightenment dork ass losers want to make everyone stupid to justify becoming kings and nobles that cull the excess stupid people
It couldn’t be more obvious

>>2631182
>You truly believe there’s a hierarchy of pleasures in life?
Some online activities are measurably healthier than others. I'd rather my kid be surfing the web and building a personal website than rotting on twitter, live streams and short form videos.
>>2631774
Depends what 'games' you're playing on Roblox, but yeah Minecraft, Vintage Story and Hytale are healthier, and reading is essential.

Sports are overrated though, as someone that grew up on sports. Puts you in the company of anti-social chuds that are usually on hard drugs, and overexposes you to the sun.

>>2652133
Roblox is a haven for child predators.

>>2602627
>>2603824
Gekyume has been exploited since birth. Modern-day Macaulay Culkin.


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