The Palestine movement failed miserably to stop the genocide because the movement is largely one of SYMBOLIC politics, not one of instrumental politics. It’s not about the Palestinian people but about angry western youth letting off steam. This exact BDS movement has become about self-righteous zoomers showing off how “virtuous” they are by boycotting Starbucks and Coke, never mind that boycotts are supposed to be a militant tactic and weapon to attack an enemy head-on. The campus protests from 2024 were also aimless and did nothing except get a bunch of students and professional activists arrested. Makes sense that NYU banned criticism of Zionism right afterwards.
Let this be known for the next time the world is thrown into a state of crisis.
229 posts and 12 image replies omitted.>>2612635Which resulted in the Glorious Victory in the Great Electronic Intifada, from the Instagram Front to the Tik Tok Front, unconditional victory of Kentrell and Kayleigh
and 100k dead civilians, 80% of Hamas leadership decapitated, infrastructure of Gaza completely gone but hey Mckayleigh and Keightlynn helped!!! ♡♡♡ >>2612206Israel worker power. It's the only way. That's why it's almost impossible.
>What is to be done? That is for the Palestinian people to decideLibs I swear.
>>2612706we have nothing to learn from this bitch ass uygha
Come the heat, he will find refuge in the warm belly of the beast and leave me to die in the fields
>>2612645>It exposed most people for being disgusting slaves <who love to find reasons to look down on othersOwn own
The Palestinians have to start winning battles in the field against Israel to build momentum.
>>2613557And for that to happen there needs to be another war.
>>2610882Impossible plus it would take too long.
The only way to save Palestine is to physically destroy the infrastructure which sustains the Zionist machine. How many of their weapons have single source suppliers? Supplies can be disrupted of key weapons (like air defense missiles) which would cause actual, tangible harm to the Zionist military and degrade it's ability to wage war. It's more than just the weapons themselves, it's the parts that go into them, all of them have dozens of subcontractors and dozens of factories on the contract. A disruption at even one of those factories would starve the Zionist beast of munitions.
>>2613563Doesn't matter if Israel collapses. What matters is what the Palestinians do afterwards. People put all their hopes and dreams on the hypothetical notion that once Israel is destabilized the Palestinians will magically rise up and seize back their lands, and after that happens all 7 million Jews will flee. What happens if the Palestinians simply can't rise up again? What happens if they attempt to rise up and Israelis with guns simply stop them? The Palestinian resistance is the weakest it's ever been in decades. And how much do you believe the Israeli surveillance state has increased after October 7th?
it is becoming clearer and clearer that the israelis are not the owners of the israeli project, and that israel is a project originally designed by non Jews and to which many Jews objected . The Jews are just tools for the colonialists and the imperialists who want to continue the colonialist endeavor that started more than 500 years ago with the colonization of the Americas. The same project is continuing, but instead of using the White Anglo Saxon Puritans, it is using the European Jews . The Palestinians are not the only targeted people . This project has for target the whole of humanity, and after decimating the Indigenous Natives of the Americas, and after hoping to decimate the Palestinians and Arabs it will seek to reach other nations . For this reason the world powers are so intent on destroying the Palestinian Resistance in Palestine at whatever cost . The israelis are tools for this project, and it is not israel nor the israelis that are benefiting from this onslaught . israel will never be peaceful after committing this genocide; nor will the israelis live in peace . They are rather digging their own grave, destroying their purpose and future and these crimes will fire back on those who committed them . The israelis have ruined what remained of their so called reputation as democratic -and the only democracy so to speak in the region . They are being accused of war crimes by the international community and their so to speak political leaders have become totally exposed.
If not the israelis , then who is benefitting from this onslaught? It is the world powers or the colonialists and their genocidal agenda, and not the israelis . Those have become tools of killing and have been stripped off their humanity . They are just killers and assassins and they will not get away with their crimes . The israeli hands are forever stained in crimes that history will never forget or overlook
The israeli captives in Gaza know what the average israeli does not know, and it is that the world powers are ready to sacrifice the israelis and treat the prisoners on par with the Palestinians and do away with them and sacrifice them in the continuous shelling and bombarding on Gaza . israel will never be sovereign, it is a slave to the world powers doing the bidding of its colonialist masters at the detriment of what they believe to be their “country” . israel cannot be preserved by massacres , it is rather being exposed and even threatened with an unknown dark future filled with insecurities . israel is the most insecure place for Jews who are now seeking shelter in Cyprus and other places and are right now booking their new homes in Greek islands.
What transpires is that israel was never meant to be a homeland and a shelter for the so called persecuted Jews . it was meant to be an advanced military base for the colonialist, and is actually acting as one, and meant to sow differences between Jews and Arabs and create religious conflicts in the region, and serve thus the colonialists in their endeavor of tearing apart countries, and destroying societies one after the other . The colonial endeavor has for project to enslave humanity and rip off nations off their natural resources and off their culture and heritage . It is a destructive project by all means whose goal is to impose the colonialist so called” civilization “, and it is using technology as a means to this enslavement whereby technology is infiltrating everywhere and manipulating individuals wherever they are and subjugating societies . This vicious project the colonialists want to carry on at whatever cost, and israel is being an advanced post for this project whereby the Jews are mere tools and not the real owners of the so called project and could be disposed of for the sake of the project . This project is threatened by the Resistance movements who have succeeded in curbing the world powers in many instances : in Lebanon , in Yemen, and Palestine . They are the only hope for a better future…
>>2613583Okay, so how do activists in the West dismantle Israel then?
>>2612804Except my reasons are valid. The whole world can unite in committing genocide but westoid leftists will still come up with reasons to not call a spade a spade.
>>2613583>If not the israelis , then who is benefitting from this onslaughtWhat bullshit is this? Israelis definitely benefit from this. They get all the treats a freeloader could dream of for squatting on land of major geopolitical importance, that too at minimal personal cost while suffering minimal casualties. And the vast majority of countries in the world (even the so-called anti-Imperialist ones) try to benefit from this arrangement. Of course, the west benefits from it a lot, but diminishing how much Israelis themselves, and even non-western countries like India, China, Myanmar etc. benefit from it is plain wrong.
>>2610129>>2609982>>2609966>>2609979Extremely based takes. Westoids can never comprehend thirdie retardation and take basic rationality for granted, which is why they will always be misled.
>>2609966>>2610861Most of the Arab states either covertly or overtly collaborated with Israel and benefited off the Gaza genocide. They deserve what's coming for them atp.
>>2610125>Feudalism was nonexistent in Muslim societiesHow does one come up with such retardation?
>>2613601Feudalism in terms of government via contracts between a vassal and an overlord only exist in Europe. In MENA (much like the Byzantine system ironically) the rulers grant the right for tax collection to some local notable or the other, who will collect taxes for the government in exchange of a fixed salary. This position can be revoked anytime and thus is completely different from how feudalism works in Europe.
This is also why Islamic states relied on slave armies because their system unlike with Europe is not designed to conscript peasant levies but to extract taxes which is then used to pay a standing army
>>2613604This is also why Muslims sultanates just like the Byzantine empire were very coup prone. Unlike in Europe where having more lands make you a more powerful lord in the Islamic world having more land under your name just makes you a glorified tax collector. So the only way for upward mobility for a Muslim noble is to scheme in the Capital, and when you add to this the fact that their armies are usually slaves who have no feudal attachment to one dynasty or the other it result in very frequent palace coups
>>2611253I wouldn't say there's *no* chance. But they've been through a lot of wars.
I've found myself at odds with a lot of anti-Zionists in a weird, perpendicular sort of way. Not that they're "wrong" about Israel engaging in wanton criminality, but they think the Israelis are supposed to do the rational thing and leave the Middle East because everybody hates them and wants them to leave. But I don't think they will because they're crazy. I think they're fucking crazy, extreme nationalists who live in some kind of psychotic Starship Troopers / militaristic Prussian nation. They're just not going to run away. In the 1960s, they were digging mass graves for their own people in Tel Aviv in the days before they'd launch a war on Egypt (which they started btw). Most wars that Israel has fought were ones they initiated. These people blew the fuck out of Beirut in the 1980s with their ground army.
It might be that many of these anti-Zionists have not met any Israelis? I met one and he freaked me out. Or just met many Jews? I've known a few. These are an extremely stubborn people. I don't think defeating Israel is impossible BTW. But part of it might also be short-term historical memory? In recent decades the IDF had grown a lot weaker because it was essentially doing military occupation work where (most of the time) the violence they inflicted was bludgeoning unarmed civilians, not fighting serious wars with enemies who could bite back. So they bumbled into a war with Hezbollah in 2006 and underestimated Hamas. But if these people feel like their backs are up against the wall then they're going to fight. If that's what it comes down to then "the strong will do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" to quote a saying:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Melos >>2613604>>2613605What about Muslim empires in asia? Were they not feudal? Genuine question.
>>2613583Cracker leftist try to not innocentize and victimize Jews and Muslims all the time challenge:
impossible >>2613685Seriously though, what's the deal with the Israel-Pedo link? Happening way too many times to just be statistical noise
Is that why leftcoms are ardent defenders od Israel after all?? >>2613687They also call you an idpol moralist for rightfully calling out anyone partaking in imperialist plunder.
>>2613689It is how Israelis keep blackmail western on politicians whose support they need to function. Burgerreich's 3-letter orgs allow it so that they can maintain support for Israel. Had any other country tried to bribe and blackmail their politicians, say Russia or China (not that I like them either), there would be a lot of hue and cry about it.
>>2613708
Even Russia and China don't deserve to be coddled. They're not as bad as Burgerreich, but they're not revolutionary either.
Are there any anons on here who are old enough to remember the anti-Apartheid struggle in South Africa?
How does solidarity from western activists in that conflict compare to what we're seeing now with western activist solidarity with Palestine?
>>2613685Kyle in this clip acting like Burgroid citizens are being looted by Israel even though a large chunk of the money that goes to Israel will make its way back to American defence contractors, part of which will then line the pockets of Burgerreich labour aristocrats. There's a reason why the Burger working class refuses to do anything against Israel, even going so far as making exceptions for military cargo in the middle of a protest. They materially benefit from this shit. It's like a free handout to them by the government.
https://www.iladistrict.com/ila-the-i-love-america-union-will-maintain-its-longstanding-pledge-to-handle-military-cargo-during-strike-passenger-cruise-ships-will-also-be-unaffected-by-october-1st-strike-at-a/ >>2613721
Fair enough.
>>2613724>acting like Burgroid citizens are being looted by Israel even though a large chunk of the money that goes to Israel will make its way back to American defence contractors, part of which will then line the pockets of Burgerreich labour aristocratsread what you yourself write, you fuckign zionist rat.
1. 100% of the money is extracted out of the American taxpayer.
2. Part of it, let's say 50% goes to US defence contractors.
3. Part of that 50%, let's say 50% of the 50% = 25% goes back to the American
labour aristocrat only.
4. Conclusion: american proles give 100% of the money, receive nothing, 25% goes to US labour aristo, 25% is distributed in investments of US defence companies, 50% is distinctly for Israel.
Another line of attack, if USA sends the money and USA receives the money, it means a net zero transfer of money. BUT! There is a transfer of weapon from USA to Israel.
So for USA, no net change. For Israel, weapons obtained.
Who paid for that weapon you fucking moron?
I even made a diagram for you zionist cocksucker brain to understand
>>2613736you are leaving out how america as a whole mantain hegemonic power via israel being there and fucking up the middle east, oil n shit
America maintains Israel to keep the Jews and the Arabs fighting. What America fears most in the region is the Jews and the Arabs uniting together in a socialist federation of the middle east, a mid east SSR of sorts that channels the oil wealth into public projects and mutual defense
>>2613744I agree with you on this. On the whole, US is funding Israel for its benefits, not because of ZOG. But there is a kernel of truth in ZOG because of the dialectical relationship: USA props up Israel for its benefit <==> Israel manoeuvres this relationship in a way that USA has to keep doing it. Apologies for insulting you, I just woke up and I have ill manners. Do not blame my parents and teachers, they tried to teach me well, I did not listen.
>>2613736>you fuckign zionist rat. You're Burgerreich Goycattle. You're the worst ind of Zionist.
>Conclusion: american proles give 100% of the money, receive nothing, 25% goes to US labour aristo, 25% is distributed in investments of US defence companies, 50% is distinctly for Israel. Sure, Amerifat. Burgerreich sends money to Israel just because. It totally has nothing to do with keeping Arab comprador regimes in line. Surely it's a historical accident that they all deal in dollars which effectively subsidizes the Burgerreich economy and protects it from inflation when Burgerbankers inevitably crash the economy and the government is forced print a shitload of money.
>>2613764>On the whole, US is funding Israel for its benefits, not because of ZOG.And they do so because they benefit off of it. Even the workers. "But muh wholesome hard-hat and overall wearing proletariat would never support Israel of their own volition!!!" is what cracker leftists tell themselves to feel better about their existence. The best they can do is win more treats for an already complacent biomass of a population.
>>2613736>>2613764>>2613807And if you don't get it already, look at it this way. Israel gets free weapons, American treatlers get a free handout. America kills two birds with one stone by supplying weapons to its atrack dog and doing some succdem hitlerite welfarism both at the same time.
>>2613810
Russians themselves are goycattle, they won't do it.
can this dude just get a tripcode already I'm so tired of seeing his bullshit everywhere
>>2613816
It's a bad idea because it will never happen. Russia is happy selling shit to Israel. It's also funny how China (rightfully) got called out for not using its veto to help Palestine but Russia didn't. So much for muh based anti-Imperialism.
The Palestinian movement in the west was a total failure . BDS is pointless because the US will just Israel an aid package to cover any boycott damages . The left told people to boycott and the. voted in democrats who turned around and gave Israel money over and over again . It’s failed by design
>>2615061>None of the protesters—who are on remand—have been found guilty of anything. They have all suffered ill treatment and unjustified blocks on communication with the outside world, due to the court’s arbitrary and unjust claim that charges against individuals arrested for Palestine Action (PA) protests have a “terrorist connection.Aha, they were quite literally charged under the Terror Act. Absolutely amazing as that places them as prisoners of conscience.
>>2615413Enough with this prisoners of conscience shit, they're prisoners of war.
I wanted to post a clip from Escape from Pretoria with this paraphrased. Couldn't find it so I'll trust you've seen it and imagination suffices. Was the other Hamas threas necessary
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