I hope all you anons enjoyed your christmasses. May this thread contain many productive and non baiting conversations 🎅🙏
Trump is live rn btw
>>2615280Apparently it's what Grok thinks Lenin looks like
>>2615281idk but im in SHOCK
>>2615282The hair made him a The Beatles member.
https://www.cpusa.org/article/reactionary-imagery-and-magas-far-right-aesthetics/Instead of doing anything, CPUSA does petty bourgeois pmc analysis of AI trump posts. CPUSA spend 1500 words fixated on the tiger's stripes like gazelle on psychotropic monkey fuits. CPUSA defies Lenin Stalin self determination, for CPUSA fails to recognize the peoples of the internal occupied nations, regarding and equivocating them all with liberal syntax as merely "marginalized groups," like what they call disabled and trans people. CPUSA attempts to virtue signal to, but fails to recognize, the Black Belt Nation, Aztlán, or the First Nations. CPUSA does not recognize that the "scapegoating" of indigenous Azltán peoples is routine maintenance of the snake settler state. Cpusa does not see that attack on Palestinians is the logical extension of U.S. settler-colonial mass practiced first at home.
>>2615295>Aztlán, or the First NationsAztlán and First Nations territorial claims overlap. How do you resolve that?
what is really the importance of public opinion? and when does it reach a tipping point? it seems not to matter if a government is unpopular
>>2615337>>2615338I hope this POS goes to prison for lying under oath about the Epstein files.
>>2615337>>2615338those are not sunglasses. they're just glasses
>>2615338Imagine trying to set up a police state and then putting this incompetent clown in charge. wtf was trump thinking?
>>2615339bro that's never going to happen
>>2615327>what is really the importance of public opinionThe public’s opinion determines their willingness to stay or leave the system they are currently in. Not that this will necessarily translate to revolutionary action, rather it will simply indicate their openness to it.
>and when does it reach a tipping point?Better question.
When the conveniences stop being convenient. When the gears stop churning, and the products stop coming. When the beatings become conflict, and when living devolves into survival. When flight or fight kicks in, and the threat of losing everything is fully realized. When even the roads cannot stop proletarian anger.
>it seems not to matter if a government is unpopularIt does. But opinion alone is simply not sufficient.
what happened to bernard? no more no kings protests? i guess he's ok with all the latest trump shit. maybe he's also in the epstein files
>>2615281This is a loop recording from over 2 fucking months ago and they present it as breaking news
>>2615288she's cuter than erika kirk imo.
>>2615346He's not thinking in terms of competence but in terms of agreeableness with his whims. Incompetent yes men will be given priority above competent but less agreeable people
Let us consult Kim Il Sung,
not dogmatically, but critically, and dynamically:
On the one hand, Kim Il Sung said:
>Internationalism and patriotism are inseparably linked with each other. You must know that the love of Korean Communists for their country does not go against the internationalism of the working class but conforms fully with it. To love Korea is just as good as to love the Soviet Union and the socialist camp and, likewise, to love the Soviet Union and the socialist camp means precisely loving Korea. They constitute a complete whole. For the great cause of the working class has no frontiers and our revolutionary cause is a part of the international revolutionary cause of the working class throughout the world. The one supreme goal of the working class of all countries is to build a communist society. The difference, if any, lies only in the fact that certain countries do this earlier and others later.It would be wrong to advocate patriotism alone and neglect internationalist solidarity. For the victory of the Korean revolution and for the great cause of the international working class, we should strengthen solidarity with the Soviet people, our liberator and helper, and with the peoples of all the socialist countries. This is our sacred internationalist duty. The Soviet people, on their part, are doing all they can to consolidate solidarity not only with the countries of the socialist camp but also with the working class of the whole world both for communist construction in their country and for the victory of world revolution.
Thus, patriotism and internationalism are inseparable. He who does not love his own country cannot be loyal to internationalism, and he who is unfaithful to internationalism cannot be faithful to his own country and people. A true patriot is precisely an internationalist and vice versa.
If we cast aside all that is good in our country and only copy and memorize foreign things in ideological work, it will certainly bring losses to our revolution, and thereby prevent us from properly carrying out our internationalist obligations to the international revolutionary cause.On the other hand he also said:
>Marxism-Leninism is not a dogma, it is a guide to action and a creative theory. So, Marxism-Leninism can display its indestructible vitality only when it is applied creatively to suit the specific conditions of each country. The same applies to the experience of the fraternal parties. It will prove valuable to us only when we make a study of it, grasp its essence and properly apply it to our realities. Instead, if we just gulp it down and spoil our work, it will not only harm our work but also lead to discrediting the valuable experience of the fraternal parties.Both quotes are from this work:
On eliminating dogmatism and formalism and establishing Juche in ideological work Speech to Party Propagandists and Agitators December 28, 1955
Link:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/kim-il-sung/1955/12/28.htmIf we abide the first quote, it seems to justify, for the American, a sort of "Patriotic Socialism" which is also "Internationalist." But at the same time, we have to understand that America is a Settler Colony like Israel, rather than a Civilization State like China or Korea. Is it justifiable for US Marxist Leninists to abide by the first quote? Is American "patriotism" not inherently hostile to the indigenous First Nations of the USA, as well as all the global south countries who are victims of US imperialism, including the DPRK?
Kim Il Sung also said (same source as above),
>Comrade Pak Yong Bin, on returning from the Soviet Union, said that since the Soviet Union was following the line of easing international tension, we should also drop our slogan against U.S. imperialism. Such an assertion has nothing to do with revolutionary vigilance. The U.S. imperialists scorched our land, slaughtered our innocent people en masse, and are still occupying the southern half of our country. They are our sworn enemy, aren't they?
>It is utterly ridiculous to think that our people's struggle against the U.S. imperialists conflicts with the efforts of the Soviet people to ease international conflicts with the efforts of the Soviet people to ease international tension. Our people's condemnation and struggle against the aggressive policy of the U.S. imperialists towards Korea are not contradictory, but conductive to the struggle of the people of the world for lessening international tension and for defending peace. At the same time, the struggle of the peace-loving people the world over, including the Soviet people, to ease tension creates more favourable conditions for the anti-imperialists struggle of our people.Thoughts?
>>2615386I mean I'm no American so I can't really say how patrioticly socialist you should be. But it seems to me a good strategy to out american the american imperialists, for socialists to be able to obtain legitimacy in the eyes of the american working class they must be more representative of that national image than said imperialists. This does certainly not mean that they should be chauvinists or nationalists or that they must mindlessly copy the sort of burger country liberty, rock, flag and eagle vulgar patriotism that america is known for, which is heavily intertwined with the genocidal imperialist history of the country. Rather, a new synthesis of american pride must be pushed forward, one based in a more proletarian, revolutionary idea of what your country is or could be, rather than what the ruling class has decided it would be.
I don't know if any of that makes sense, that's just my 2cents for you guys
>>2615354Lmao I had not realized that. I just posted the first thing that came up when searching trump live
>>2615397That makes total sense to me. Thank you for your thoughts.
>>2615386America is going to have to be reconstituted with people who are going to be more amenable to the isues of the oppressed people across the world no matter what, so i don't see where this idea that any america is going to be inherently against the indigenous
like half of this thread is literally coming up with complaints about a non-existant socialist USA that has never existed except in fantasy and then people going off on incredibly asshurt rants about the crimes of this fictional society did to people who are being hurt by the society it replaced
>>2615397exactly, thank you
>>2615401>like half of this thread is literally coming up with complaints about a non-existant socialist USA that has never existed except in fantasy and then people going off on incredibly asshurt rants about the crimes of this fictional society did to people who are being hurt by the society it replacedLet's not invite it.
>>2615273>May this thread contain many productive and non baiting conversations 🎅🙏Yes
the logic people use here is some of the most nonsensical shit i hear sometimes
>this house has mold growing in it making people terribly sick, we should knock it down
<you can't do that, the new house you'd replace it with has mold growing in it!
Like it's motherfuckers who think that a society can undergo a foundation-reforming overhaul in a civil conflict done with the aim of trying for something new and better from the ground up and then it'll just…go back to the way it was? We're gonna go through a civil war just so we can get President Biden 2032?
>>2615401>>2615407I think the issue is more that the american national identity is so steeped in imperialism, genocide, etc. That it makes leftwingers, who are averse to nationalism anyway, hesitant or reluctant to reappropriate said identity into a new form, out of fear that it will reproduce the same things as before. This is of course a bit idealist, but it's understandable that they would be concerned with that, given the associations that exist. It's definitely not an easy thing to tackle I think
>>2615386Marx apparently should have been more explicit in his anti nationalism
>>2615409A solution I've seen thrown around is that the American identity be tossed completely and be replaced with a new Turtle Islander identity.
American socialism is gonna have a hard time being international. I would like nothing better than to join together in a big worker polity spanning the western hemisphere, or even with the entire world, but after 150+ years of violence and coups imposed on our neighbors I find it hard to believe that socialist nations around us would willingly give up their sovereignty to join in a socialist union with the united states. Would Brazilians honestly want to follow orders not coming from Brasilia?
>>2615410internationalism is not anti-nationalism. In order to love others you must also love yourself.
Let's read Lenin speak of the necessity of supporting oppressed nations in their anti-imperialist struggles:
>>2577969>>2577998>>2577999
<Marx also acknowledges that proletarian revolutions will happen on a national scale, and that the measures they carry out will, initially, be national measures.
<Of course, in the beginning, this cannot be effected except by means of despotic inroads on the rights of property, and on the conditions of bourgeois production; by means of measures, therefore, which appear economically insufficient and untenable, but which, in the course of the movement, outstrip themselves, necessitate further inroads upon the old social order, and are unavoidable as a means of entirely revolutionising the mode of production.<These measures will, of course, be different in different countries.
<Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.
<1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.<2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.<3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.<4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.👆 this deals directly with the "gusano" question of counter revolutionaries fleeing to places where revolution has not happened yet
<5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.👆 was Marx "Dengist?" No! Deng was Marxist!
<6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.<7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.<8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.<9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.<10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.
<When, in the course of development, class distinctions have disappeared, and all production has been concentrated in the hands of a vast association of the whole nation, the public power will lose its political character. Political power, properly so called, is merely the organised power of one class for oppressing another. If the proletariat during its contest with the bourgeoisie is compelled, by the force of circumstances, to organise itself as a class, if, by means of a revolution, it makes itself the ruling class, and, as such, sweeps away by force the old conditions of production, then it will, along with these conditions, have swept away the conditions for the existence of class antagonisms and of classes generally, and will thereby have abolished its own supremacy as a class.So it is pretty clear, even as early as the Manifesto that the nation or country is the main stage on which proletarian revolutions will occur. National sovereignty is necessary in the context of protecting proletarian revolution ,and internationalism is necessary in the context of spreading it to new countries. Make sense? Marxism-Leninism is
internationalist but not
anti-nationalist since it respects the sovereignty of oppresed nations, and nations where proletarian revolution has already occurred, but relentlessly attacks bourgeois and imperialist nations. Makes sense?
>>2615415I think that's probably the worst solution I could think of, as I don't see how you're going to get people on board with that. But I'm annoyed at the turtle island thing anyway, as not all Native American groups believed in that turtle myth and the ones that did didn't really refer to the landmass of America per say, but rather what they saw as the entire world
>>2615418Classic Onion was so good lmao
>>2615419>I don't see how you're going to get people on board with thatI don't either but it's something I'm seeing being pushed and taken seriously in American communist spaces because decolonization is a major tenet of a lot of socialist orgs now.
>>2615415The Socialist Federation of Fredonia. The name we should have had and in solidarity with the American continent so we are not hogging up American
>>2615421well this hypothetical name change (which I think is silly btw) would have to take place after the original thing has been destroyed.
>>2615417>bourgeois and imperialist nationsbourgeois and imperialist states you mean?
>>2615416Hot take, a Socialist America will end up being a Cold War and back to ground zero because our socialist leadership will say China, Russia, Brazil,etc are doing socialism incorrectly and it is our job as the greatest socialist nation on earth who is doing what Karl Marx said correctly needs to spread liberty,democracy and socialism to backwards ideologies.
>>2615337He always looks like he is lost. Like he lost his parents at the grocery store.
>>2615429 (you)
Also adding, Russia,Brazil are not socialist just giving an example of a hypothetical where a domino effect happened
>>2615425I know I've seen it too. I'm not an anti decolonization guy either, I think that school has it's place, the problem imo is that in classic American fashion those yanks who purport to uphold decolonialism don't understand that colonialism and the genocide of native Americans was already completed over a hundred years ago. So now it just looks like them digging up a bunch of shit, trying to turn back the clock hundreds of years, which is never going to happen. That is not to say that real native American issues, of which there are plenty, shouldn't be taken seriously or something, just that this kind of turtle island business is stupid
>>2615417>internationalism is not anti-nationalismSure, if you’ve gone completely bonkers. It literally in the name. International. Not national. International.
>Let's read I care not for your egregious misinterpretations and lack of media literacy. You probably think Marx was promoting nationalism because he said to work initially on the national level and overthrow ones own local bourgeois, don’t you?
>>2615439Must you really imagine your interlocutor to have the least charitable position anon? Can't you give them some grace and try to understand what is being said without twisting it into something else?
Inter does not mean anti actually, pretty funny you're accusing others of being illiterate lol
>>2615447>Must you really imagine your interlocutor to have the least charitable position anon?Ruthless criticism of everything that exists
>Inter does not mean anti actuallyIn the context of communism, the ideology that is against class, money, and
State, it in fact does.
>>2615450For you
>>2615396They were going to put names on it but it turned out that too many of them were Nazis and collaborators so they just scrapped the names altogether lmao.
>>2615396Communism has killed no one, capitalism has killed millions
>>2615456Tsar Bomba Trvke
>>2615459No communist society has developed the nuclear bomb
>>2615439inter = between
national = national
the cooperation of nations to establish socialism is proletarian internationalism. It is inter-nationalist, not anti-nationalist.
>What we have to deal with here is a communist society, not as it has developed on its own foundations, but, on the contrary, just as it emerges from capitalist society; which is thus in every respect, economically, morally, and intellectually, still stamped with the birthmarks of the old society from whose womb it emerges. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch01.htmIf the nation has no place in socialism, then why are all of Marx's recommended measures for a proletarian revolution taken at a national level?
I will not list these again because they were in my original post, which is accessible by scrolling up. Because it is obvious that socialism will first emerge in some places faster than others, just as capitalism did. So before it can become global, nations which become socialist first will have to
defend their own national proletarian revolutions from
bourgeois counter-revolution. This is proletarian nationalism. As proletarian revolution spreads, the socialist nations cooperate to support each other, which is inter-nationalism, not anti-nationalism.
>>2615436de-colonialism will be taken seriously when it starts talking about how to cure rampant
physical alcohol addiction and dealing with people getting away with murder on reservations as if it were a human game hunting range more than it cares about catering to an ancient creation myth, i'm gonna be honest.
honkoid status?
>>2615464>inter = between>national = nationalIn between nations, and in the context of communist theory, being against them as well.
>the cooperation of nations to establish socialism is proletarian internationalismThe cooperation of true proletarian dictatorships to be exact.
>If the nation has no place in socialismNot my position nationalist.
>proletarian nationalismProletarian nationalism is a thing that already exists. What you speak of is proletarian internationalism working on the national, under the assumption they will also automatically form a nation state.
>>2615467<I care not for your egregious misinterpretations and lack of media literacy. I will not repeat myself.
Two of Marx’s daughters committed suicide. What’s the materialist explanation?
>>2615429this
cuba will remain under blockade, but now due to its "social imperialism"
>>2615480also Agent Kochinski will be head of state
>>2615476>Not my position nationalist.internationalist. No need for slander.
>>2615476>I will not repeat myself.It doesn't matter what you "care" or "don't" care to do. Say what is wrong with the interpretation. Educate. If you can.
>>2615478They didn't have TikTok in the 19th century
>>2615407>>2615401Oh, look, here we are!
>>2615429>You can't talk about destroying the moldy old house and build a new one, that new house has mold in it! https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2025/12/26/ussr-china-world-anti-fascist-war/When the USSR and China saved humanity: How they won the World Anti-Fascist WarIt was the Soviet Union and China that defeated fascism in WWII. Their heroic contribution was later erased by the West. In the First Cold War, the US recruited former Nazis.
2025 marked the 80th anniversary of the defeat of fascism in World War Two. Unfortunately, the history of this extremely important conflict is not very well understood today.
It was not the United States and its Western allies that defeated fascism in WWII. That is a myth that is promoted by Hollywood movies.
In reality, it was the Soviet Union and China that defeated fascism in WWII. However, their heroic contribution was later erased by the West, when the US waged the First Cold War against the global socialist movement.
The vast majority — approximately 80% — of Nazi casualties were on the Eastern Front, in the Third Reich’s savage, scorched-earth battles against the Soviet Red Army.
More than 26 million Soviets died in the Nazi empire’s genocidal war. Compare that to the just over 400,000 US Americans who died, and the roughly 450,000 Brits who lost their lives.
This means that 62 Soviets were killed for every US American who died in WWII. Yet, tragically, their sacrifice has been forgotten in the West – or, better said, erased from public consciousness for political reasons.
The fact that the USSR defeated Nazi Germany was even admitted by the inveterate anti-communist Winston Churchill, an explicit racist, colonialist, and erstwhile admirer of Hitler who oversaw the British empire’s extreme crimes, including a famine in Bengal in 1943.
In a speech in August 1944, Churchill acknowledged:
>“I have left the obvious, essential fact to this point, namely, that it is the Russian Armies who have done the main work in tearing the guts out of the German army. In the air and on the oceans we could maintain our place, but there was no force in the world which could have been called into being, except after several more years, that would have been able to maul and break the German army unless it had been subjected to the terrible slaughter and manhandling that has fallen to it through the strength of the Russian Soviet Armies”.Then, in October 1944, Churchill said, “I have always believed and I still believe that it is the Red Army that has torn the guts out of the filthy Nazis”.
In fact, the USSR wanted to crush fascism even earlier by proposing a surprise attack on Nazi Germany in 1939, weeks before Hitler invaded Poland. Soviet military officers made an official request to British and French officials to form an alliance against Nazi Germany in August 1939, but London and Paris were not interested. The USSR had a million troops ready to fight, but the Western European powers were not prepared.
What the capitalist countries in Western Europe and North America had hoped for was that Nazi Germany would attack the Soviet Union, which they considered their main enemy. This is why the Western imperial powers had long appeased Hitler, signing shameful deals like the 1938 Munich Agreement, which allowed the Nazi empire to expand in Europe.
What the Western capitalist “liberal democracies” and the fascist regimes shared in common was mutual hatred of communism. The rich oligarchs who controlled Western governments feared that they would lose their privileges if workers in their countries were inspired by the Bolshevik Revolution.
In the 1930s, the US State Department spoke positively of fascism as an alternative to communism, and the US chargé d’affaires in Germany praised the supposedly “more moderate section of the [Nazi] party, headed by Hitler himself … which appeal[s] to all civilized and reasonable people”.
It must be emphasized that, when the Japanese empire officially allied with Nazi Germany in 1936, the name of the deal they signed was the Agreement Against the Communist International, or the Anti-Comintern Pact. Benito ᴉuᴉlossnW’s fascist regime in Italy subsequently signed the agreement in 1937, and the fascist regimes in Spain, Hungary, and other European countries joined in the following years. It was extreme, violent anti-communism that united all of these fascist powers.
While there is widespread ignorance about the Soviet Union’s leading role in crushing Nazi Germany in WWII, the heroic contribution that the people of China made to the defeat of the Japanese empire is even less well known.
For Europe, WWII began in 1939, when Nazi Germany invaded Poland. For the people of China, the war started much earlier, in 1931, when the Japanese empire invaded the Manchuria region of northern China.
For 14 years, the people of China resisted Japan’s aggression, as the imperial regime sought to colonize more and more Chinese territory.
By the end of the war in 1945, roughly 20 million Chinese had lost their lives. This means that approximately 48 Chinese were killed for every US American who died in WWII.
In China, WWII is known as the Chinese People’s War of Resistance Against Japanese Aggression, and it was part of a larger conflict called the World Anti-Fascist War.
China held an important event on 3 September 2025 commemorating the 80th anniversary of the defeat of fascism. It featured key leaders of countries that are today, once again, fighting against imperialism and fascism, including China’s President Xi Jinping, Russia’s President Vladimir Putin, the DPRK’s leader Kim Jong-un, Iran’s President Masoud Pezeshkian, and officials from other countries in Asia, Africa, and Latin America, including Cuba’s President Miguel Díaz-Canel and Nicaragua’s representative Laureano Ortega Murillo.
The United States has long taken credit for the defeat of the fascist Japanese empire, but this erases the enormous, heroic, 14-year contribution made by the Chinese people.
Although it is true that the United States was briefly allied with the USSR and China during WWII, and it did provide significant military assistance through its 1941 Lend-Lease Act, Washington immediately terminated that partnership in 1945.
In fact, even before WWII officially ended, the United States had already started to recruit fascists to help them launch the Cold War. US intelligence agencies saved many Nazi war criminals in the infamous Operation Paperclip. Instead of facing justice, these genocidaires assisted Washington in its subsequent attacks on the Soviet Union and its communist allies in Eastern Europe.
Later, the CIA and NATO created Operation Gladio, in which they used fascist war criminals as foot soldiers of their new global imperialist war on socialism. The former top Nazi military officer Adolf Heusinger was appointed the chair of NATO’s military committee, and the ex Nazi Hans Speidel became commander of NATO’s land forces in Central Europe.
The United States even rehabilitated Nazi war criminal Reinhard Gehlen, who had directed Hitler’s military intelligence on the Eastern Front in WWII, and who later led the CIA-backed Gehlen Organization to help Washington wage its cold war against communists.
The United States did not defeat fascism; it rehabilitated and absorbed fascism into the capitalist empire that Washington built after WWII, centered in Wall Street and based on the dollar.
The contemporary German government published the results of a study in 2016, called the Rosenberg project, which sifted through classified documents from 1950 to 1973. It found that, at the height of the Cold War, the government of capitalist West Germany, which was a member of NATO, was full of former Nazis.
In fact, 77% of senior officials in West Germany’s Justice Ministry had been Nazis. Ironically, there had been a lower percentage of Nazi Party members in the Justice Ministry in Berlin when the genocidal dictator Adolf Hitler himself was in charge of the Third Reich.
Similarly, in Japan after WWII, US occupation forces released Japanese war criminals from prison and used them to construct an imperial client regime. The CIA helped to create and fund the powerful Liberal Democratic Party (LDP), which has essentially governed Japan as a one-party state, with few exceptions, since 1955.
Notorious war criminal Nobusuke Kishi had overseen genocidal crimes against humanity against the Chinese people as an administrator of the Japanese empire’s puppet regime of Manchukuo, in Manchuria, during WWII. After the war ended, the United States strongly supported Kishi, who led the LDP, established the de facto one-party state, and became prime minister of the country.
Still today, the Kishi dynasty is one of the most powerful families in Japan. Kishi’s grandson Shinzo Abe also led the LDP and served as prime minister from 2012 and 2020, closely allying Japan with the United States, while antagonizing China and rewriting the history of WWII.
In short, after the Soviet Union and China led the fight to defeat fascism in WWII, the US empire recruited fascists to fight its global war against socialism.
Today, it is extremely important to learn these facts and correct the historical record, because 2025 is the 80th anniversary of the end of WWII, and it is clear that the proper lessons have not been learned in the West.
The planet is still plagued by extreme imperial violence, and closer than ever to another world war.
The United States and Israel have been carrying out a genocide against the Palestinian people in Gaza, committing atrocities that are reminiscent of the fascists’ crimes against humanity in WWII.
Fascism has its roots in European colonialism. The genocidal tactics that the European empires used in Asia, Africa, and Latin America were later used by the fascists inside Europe.
Nazi leader Adolf Hitler was inspired by the genocidal crimes that the German empire had committed in southern Africa, and also by the genocide that the US colonialists had carried out against indigenous peoples in North America. The Nazis were also influenced by the US government’s racist laws against Black Americans, in its apartheid system known as Jim Crow.
Given the close links between fascism and Western imperialism, it is not surprising to see that, today, the US regime has become increasingly fascist. Politicians in Washington scapegoat immigrants and foreigners for the many domestic problems in their country, including the significant growth in inequality, poverty, and homelessness. They have no solutions other than more violence, racism, and war.
The increasing political desperation and instability in Washington is combining in a toxic mixture with the greed of US corporations in the military-industrial complex, which profit from war, and are thus incentivized to push for more conflict, not for peace.
The United States, as the leader of NATO, has already been waging a proxy war against Russia in Ukrainian territory, using the people of Ukraine as cannon fodder in an imperial war, tragically destroying an entire generation of Ukrainians in a vain attempt to maintain US global hegemony.
The US empire has also used its Israeli attack dog to wage war on the people of Iran, in an attempt to overthrow the revolutionary government in Tehran and impose a puppet regime, like the former king, the shah, who was propped up by Washington.
The number one target of the US empire today, however, is the People’s Republic of China. US imperialists fear that China is the only country powerful enough to not only challenge but to defeat Washington’s global hegemony.
The US empire is waging a Second Cold War against China, and it has weaponized everything in this hybrid war, imposing sanctions and tariffs to wage economic war, using its control over the dollar system in a financial war, and exploiting the media to spread disinformation and fake news as part of an information war.
Part of the US empire’s strategy in this information war is to erase the Chinese people’s major contribution to the defeat of fascism and imperialism in WWII.
This is why it is so crucial to defend the facts, and to teach the true history of WWII to people today. If we don’t correct the historical record, the fascists and imperialists of the 21st century will weaponize ignorance in order to carry out the same crimes that their ideological brethren committed in the 20th century.
>>2615478idk about the second one, but the longuets committed suicide in old age due to feableness. They made a pact. Lenin remarked upon their deaths that (paraphrasing) euthanizing yourself is the right thing to do when you can no longer serve the struggle.
>>2615483>internationalistAnd unicorns exist
>It doesn't matter what youYeah it does. You already know why. We’re already at the meat of it anyways, so resistance is futile regardless.
>>2615476https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/dec/15.htm<This is the essence of Rosa Luxemburg’s amusing error for which she was ridiculed a long time ago by German and Russian (August 1903) Social-Democrats; in their fear of playing into the hands of the bourgeois nationalism of oppressed nations, people play into the hands not merely of the bourgeois but of the reactionary nationalism of the oppressor nation.THIS ONE IS CRUCIAL 👆
>>2615490>THIS ONE IS CRUCIALFor you
>>2615490Not gonna lie, considering Poland, Ukraine, and the Baltics exist now, Rosa might have been vindicated.
>>2615492You want a gold star, captain obvious?
>>2615495I’m certainly one of those things
>>2615493it was the dissolution of the USSR by the revisionist CPSU leadership, against the popular will of the republics in question, not the establishment of autonomous republics in the USSR, which was the chief cause of the existing reactionary ex-soviet countries in eastern europe
>>2615497>You want a gold star, captain obvious?well I'm glad you confess that you reply without engaging with the substance.
>I’m certainly one of those thingswhy bother replying if you aren't going to educate the other comrades present why I'm wrong (your opinion).
>>2615489>added another scoffing throwaway comment without substance award What are you suggesting?
the USA must be destroyed
>>2615499>well I'm glad you confess that you reply without engaging with the substanceThat’s a funny way of saying filler. The substance was already engaged with.
>internationalism is not anti-nationalism>why bother replying if you aren't going to educate the other comrades present why I'm wrong (your opinion).I did already though.
>>2615501That you are a humorous, relentless, and unrepentant individual
>>2615505
Brimstone
>>261548766 is not so old. Maybe in those times yeah.
Post images of babyjak/cacajak on this thread if your a pedophile
>>2615312>Aztlán and First Nations territorial claims overlap. How do you resolve that?This non-antagonistic, tertiary question is resolved by resolving the principal, antagonistic question, which is resolved by expulsing settler back to their caves in caucuses. After settlers are expulsed, overlapping claim is resolved by joint-soverignship and mutual land-right.
Father tracks kidnapped daughter using phone's parental controls, authorities say
The suspect was partially nude when the kidnapped girl's father found her, authorities said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/father-tracks-kidnapped-daughter-using-phones-parental-controls-rcna251115>>2615588>This non-antagonistic, tertiary questionNatives still seethe about the Spanish and Mexican settlers. You would know that if you actually knew what you were talking about.
>overlapping claim is resolved by joint-soverignship and mutual land-right.So all of Aztlan in America is jointly owned? That means all the First Nations in the southwest get nothing to themselves while northern and eastern First Nations get their own lands. That also means none of the Hispanics get anything for themselves either. This arrangement privileges the northern and eastern First Nations over everyone else. Why are they the only ones who get the good end of the deal?
>>2615591Gabe has to micromanage that shit, the moment he retires or dies, Steam turns into the most anti-customer game company as they have a near monopoly and games you own digitally, well, you don't really own.
>>2615588So why don't you leave?
I don't think American leftists should hide their views but I do think that due to the reactionary indoctrination and atomization of the American people we may want to focus on immediate, transitional demands before building socialism.
Obviously two of these demands would have to involve fighting climate change and rolling back American empire.
How is multipolarism incorrect?
>>2615620It hurts American eyceptionalism.
>>2615609This should be framed in a way that explicitly shows them the benefits. Not be framed like they are hippy martyrs giving up something for lent.
Fighting climate change is "making life more convenient and easy by reducing all the stupid shit you have to deal with."
Rolling back American empire is "stop wasting trillions of your tax money giving soldiers vacations to exotic locales."
>>2615503I think you were just very dismissive tbh. You asserted your position, didn't use any theory to back it up, and didn't say WHY (key word) other anon was wrong. There's a much stronger case that "The proletariat has no country" is the
beginnning of Marx's analysis, not the end, otherwise he wouldn't stress the immediate goals of proletarian revolution in a
national context. You started by saying Marx "should have" been "more explicit" in his "anti-nationalism" but I think you failed to demonstrate Marx's "anti-nationalism" or why "internationalism" is "anti-nationalism" rather than just an articulation of how existing nations should co-operate after respective proletarian revolutions. The abolition of nation states themselves is so much further off than the immediate tasks of bringing about proletarian revolution in each nation, which will probably occur one by one, but with greater and greater rapidity, rather than being a simple, easy, smooth, global, simultaneous process. The "nationalism" you accuse me in this conversation of is proletarian internationalism and it is explicitly based on what Marx says in Chapter II of the Manifesto, and what Lenin says about imperialism. It also draws on Kim Il Sung. Why would Marx mention "state capital" and "national bank" and the conditions of a revolution in "each country" if he was not interested in articulating the tasks of the proletariat at an initial scale which is smaller than the one we desire, that is, the national scale. You have to start
somewhere. >>2615622>This should be framed in a way that explicitly shows them the benefits. Not be framed like they are hippy martyrs giving up something for lent.Yes precisely, I neglected to mention that. We have to show them these changes benefit them. We focus on self-interest, not moralism.
>>2615622>>2615622>This should be framed in a way that explicitly shows them the benefits. Not be framed like they are hippy martyrs giving up something for lent.Truth nuke
>Fighting climate change is "making life more convenient and easy by reducing all the stupid shit you have to deal with."exactly
>Rolling back American empire is "stop wasting trillions of your tax money giving soldiers vacations to exotic locales."you have to make it clear the soldiers aren't "protecting" anyone but oil corporations, while making america and americans despised around the world. we're destroying our global reputation (which was already bad) for moar fossilized plankton juice.
>>2615637American anti-intellectualism, etc.
>>2615644
Ok and?
>>2615647Do ypu homie. Everyone has a hobby.
>>2615651
Bro, like you can go post our conversation into any machine a d get an autism score rating. Bro you are sub llm tier.
Like I am not just insulting you. You have to have realized by now you are dim-witted right?
>>2615644
it's not RETVRN wankery because it's no a matter of moving "backwards" towards a "tradition" but moving forwards past exploitation, capitalism, imperialism and other serious issues like climate change. Still confused? Let me know.
>>2615637>>2615641>>2615642I like this weird cope where, in a world where the vast majority of people still follow ancient religions, if you bring up a guy from only 200 years ago you're doing "idol worship" supposedly. It's not idol worship motherfucker. I arrived at Marx because I kept telling people my opinions and they kept saying my opinions were "Marxist" and "Communist." Libs and conservatives kept accusing me of "Marxism" before I even knew what it was. I wasn't raised Marxist like a person is raised Christian.
And even oncee you get into "Marxism" you find there's a bunch of infighting and shit and it's not blind faith but rather a contentious field of study, and the founders of Marxism themselves said their method was meant to be creatively applied to a dynamically evolving struggle, not mechanically applied in a dogmatic fashion.
>>2615660
you're saying less than anyone.
>>2615668
>Marx himself said he wasn't a Marxist.
Here is the context of that anecdote. It comes from Engels, in an 1890 letter to Conrad Schmidt:
>However, as I said, all this is secondhand and little Moritz is a dangerous friend. The materialist conception of history has a lot of them nowadays, to whom it serves as an excuse for not studying history. Just as Marx used to say, commenting on the French "Marxists" of the late [18]70s: "All I know is that I am not a Marxist."
Note how Engels puts "Marxists" in scare quotes. The implication here is not "Marxism bad and a deviation from Marx" but that some of the very first people calling themselves Marxists, in the 1870s, frustrated Marx.
>You are an idol worshipper plain and simple. Reevaluate yourself.
"plain and simple" huh? There's a narrative, an accusation, an attack you're lazily trying to lay down like the law over and over while not actually giving any supporting evidence. You think, like Goebbels, that by repeating a lie enough times you can transform it into the truth.
>Your whole story is that people accused you of worshiping Marx so you did?
That's not what I said you dishonest rat and anyone can scroll up and see that. I said that my conclusions were "Marxist" before I even knew who Marx was. I realized there is something seriously wrong with the way our society is structured. When I finally did get around to reading Marx I read him critically not uncritically, that is to say I read him with skepticism and a hesitation. Despite that I still found myself agree with the majority of what he said, and the parts I didn't agree with still had reasonable overlap.
>Why would you name yourself after any man but your father you fucking loser.
?????? what kind of question is this supposed to be. I didn't "name" myself after Marx, to be a "Marxist" is simply to have a political outlook which draws significantly from his works. It doesn't mean "idol worship" but "idol worship" is usually an accusation thrown around by literal worshipers of the Abrahamic God anyway, so it's rich coming from them.
>>2615680
Well, we're both here and I'm looking for a place that is somewhat usable for leftist discussion. I think I'll stay lol
>>2615683>The fuck you even mean "scare quotes?" Are you fucking retarded? Do you think this term even existed 10 years ago let alone 150?People used scare quotes before the term for them existed. Putting things in quotations marks sarcastically is a very old practice. The more you read the more you would realize this.
>From the text it is ambiguous is the fair rating I would give it.No it's pretty clear.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1890/letters/90_08_05.htm>It certainly doesn't dispel that he would hate all people who took that monniker as he himself never approved of it or are you claiming he did in certain instances? Like are their kosher Marxists in Marx's eyes is what you're saying?you're overly concerned with the words we call ourselves, which are also the words that we are accused of being. When someone calls me a Marxist I just go "sure, whatever, here are my actual thoughts:" rather than wasting all day denying it like you want me to. What use is denying it when liberals and conservatives will accuse me of being it anyway. I'm not interested in deception. I'm more concerned with the actual political methodology of alleviating working class suffering through methods that do not involve constantly compromising with the ruling class.
>But you didn't address the actual point of why you call yourself a "Marxist." I already addressed it in the quote you replied to. You say that you took the moniker because people called you it before you adopted it from them.I literally did up here
>>2615665<I arrived at Marx because I kept telling people my opinions and they kept saying my opinions were "Marxist" and "Communist." Libs and conservatives kept accusing me of "Marxism" before I even knew what it was. I wasn't raised Marxist like a person is raised Christian.then you lied and mischaracterized this anecdote in a way that suited your accusations here:
>>2615668<You are an idol worshipper plain and simple. Reevaluate yourself. Your whole story is that people accused you of worshiping Marx so you did? Why would you name yourself after any many but your father you fucking loser.I couldn't have dreamed up a lazier or more bad faith response. You really are creative at being a lying asshole. Luckily the people can read the entire exchange if they're interested. Most of them won't though, and will jump in halfway through, which is probably what you are hoping. Just keep the accusations refreshed so I have to constantly rehash what I've already said. You're a vampire. You're trying to make me waste more energy than you. That's your real goal with this conversation. You keep your posts short, sweet, and accusatory, so I can be on the backpedal making longer smarter posts that you then ignore. This is the essence of trolling.
>Yes, it is idol worship. You say "I am a Marxist." You are taking another man's name and naming yourself that.You're just repeating your tiresome rhetoric that's already been addressed again. See? It's not a real point. It's just a rhetorical accusation. Dumb people lap up shit like this.
>>2615679>Don't tell me /leftypol/ has turned into a botted up shithole.yeah it's basically nonstop trolling now. the few real people are constantly accosted with the most bad faith nonsense meant to waste our time. It comes from all possible angles.
>>2615696
>no i will not educate people i see as uneducated, i will just farm their cortisol for my own cheap entertainment
YWNBAC
>>2615699
>Are Americans too cuckolded for even labor union consciousness?
We had very strong labor unions, but they were cucked by Taft Hartley in the late 40s. Unionization rates stayed high until the 1960s. But the unions became increasingly reactionary and class collaborationist. Finally neoliberalization happened starting in the 70s and 80s. Unions continued to become less effective, unionization rates fell, and that's how we got where we are today.
>Are anti-union voices simply promoted above others,
Definitely
>or is a different approach needed?
Unions are still important but it can't be the only form of organization we do. It should be the starting point, not the end point. You also have to make sure the unions aren't class collaborationist or imperialist. For example the ILWA recently went on strike, and they refused to load cargo. Good. But! They made an exception for "military cargo" because it was "important for national security." This allowed weapons to be shipped to Israel. That's not the kind of union we want.
>>2615700
I'm neither a mod nor a ban evader so… your anecdote is made up.
>>2615705
>wrong. You defy universal science of de-settler-colonization
man i wish it was down to a science. things wouldn't be so bleak.
>>2615600wrong. You defy universal science of de-settler-colonization. joint sovereignship solve contradiction. without settlers, there are enough resources to be shared. without settlers, there are no problems.
>>2615664You would not be foolish enough to say Hamas is blood and soil for getting rid of settler. euro settler is socio-economic-political category, not racial category. Fact that settlers came from and shall be returned to europe is not racist. You may as well say settler zionist is jewish race like theodore herzel, therefore you are most like racist settleroid.
that video is full on mental gymnastics. That is a genuine white genocide song…
>>2615683
>You say "I am a Marxist." You are taking another man's name and naming yourself that.
I'm gonna make you take another man's name when I make you my wife anon, you retarded faggot
>>2615715
>Leftypol will say
just ask what we think next time
>le HECKIN antisemitism
no it's not antisemitic to be against israel. are you new here?
>>2615715
People here barely give a fuck about actually antisemitic rhetoric, Bad Empanada's view on jewish exceptionalism and Zionism, which are not antisemitic at all, are entirely mainstream here anon
>>2615714>that video is full on mental gymnastics. That is a genuine white genocide song…don't be such a crybaby 4klanner. kill the boer is a song, and the full lyrics of it call the white communist joe slovo "our father"
maybe learn some history
>>2615714Every time they say Boer, you must imagine them killing Elon Musk. Do you understand how this song is based now?
>>2615729
>your crap excuses and deflections about jews
He doesn't know me and has never spoken to me. WTF are you talking about.
>The video is not simply about Israel. Bad empanada is focusing on support for Zionism by Jews globally
Support for zionism is support for Israel.
>by Jews globally
simply kill all zionists and 100% of remaiing Jews will be non-zionist. Simple.
>>2615714Boers are the zionists of South Africa. Do you understand now?
>>2615732Okay I like you. You are cool. That guy with the nazi rainbow flag writes essays about how careful we have to be to not sound anti-semitic and at same time he shills super hard for the terrorist al qaeda leader of Syria and has now reached the point where he post music videos about him
I really learned something on leftypol today. You guys are really smart.
>>2615734Gay nazi anon is a known cryptozionist, he tries to hide it but it's obvious. People call him out on this all the time
>>2615738I have seen him make long post on multiple occasions attacking malema from South Africa too as a bad guy or someone that should not be supported. Meanwhile he's fine with al qaeda
>>2615739Malema's funny. I like him. He makes Trump seethe. They pretend he's president of South Africa because of the seethe he generates in zionists and imperialists.
>>2615506>unrepentant What is there to "repent" about?
>>2615734>shills super hard for the terrorist al qaeda leader of syrialet me stop you there, he acknowledges reality, there is no large movement in syria against him, whether you like it or not, he is the leader of a country of tens of millions, his "shilling" is acknowledging this fact and hoping the best for the syrian people, who do in fact benefit from no longer being sanctioned, even if for an arbitrary reason beforehand
>>2615739At one point he said the EFF was too violent during a protest against a white supremacist school and compared red berets to blackshirts. His track record on South Africa should lead people to not be surprised by his Israel takes
>>2615748also this
meanwhile I think Norton's video demonstrates zionists support Sharaa (jolani)
See
>>2615735Topics
0:00 Syrian government is overthrown
3:17 Al-Qaeda leader Abu Mohammad al-Jolani
4:39 AQ rebrands: Jabhat al-Nusra to Jabhat Fatah al-Sham to HTS
6:16 Western media whitewashed Osama bin Laden
7:53
Jake Sullivan: "AQ is on our side in Syria"8:49
CIA spends billions arming Salafi-jihadists10:06 Diplomat says HTS is US "asset"
11:33 HTS' medieval rule in Syria
12:44 Libya: where NATO brought back slavery
15:40 (CLIP)
Biden takes credit for overthrowing Assad16:58
Syrian Al-Qaeda got US weapons17:24 Turkey backed Syrian assault
17:50 Ukraine's role in Syria
18:30
Israel boasts of Syria regime change19:12 (CLIP) Netanyahu:
Israel helped topple Assad19:26 Israel supported Syrian rebels
20:38
Syrian rebels say they "love Israel"22:09
Israel seizes more Syrian territory23:15 Axis of Resistance is weakened
25:15 Syria's territorial integrity
26:41
US military occupies Syria's oil fields27:19 (CLIP)
Trump boasts: I took Syria's oil27:46 Congress backs US military occupation of Syria
28:33 US starved Syria of oil revenue
29:43 Western sanctions suffocated Syria's economy
32:42 Inflation in Syria
33:35 This is not about "authoritarianism"
36:08 US strategy to collapse Syrian state
37:30 (CLIP) US official outlines Syria regime-change plan
39:46 Will Syria's borders be changed?
41:41 Iran: the ultimate US target
42:45 (CLIP) Wesley Clark: US planned to topple 7 governments
43:38 US collapsed 6 of 7 states on regime-change list
44:34 Will US war on Iran be next?
46:24 Outro
>>2615713>joint sovereignship solve contradiction.Are you retarded? They will be ripped off while their neighbors get everything. That will create resentment. Communism solves contradiction, joint sovereignship is radlib bullshit.
>without settlers, there are enough resources to be shared. without settlers, there are no problems. If only the Aztecs and Inca agreed with your noble savage racism.
>>2615770Wrong Schizo (as I call him) is a known troll who starts every post with "Wrong." and then says some stupid bullshit, usually not in response to anything you actually said.
Malema is a meme. It is ridiculous to either support him od be scared of him.
>>2615507What gives these guys the confidence to say shit like
>I'm ascendingOr really the idea that they are superior to anyone at all. Both are basically doing the modern equivalent of being a street entertainer and their lives are dependent on begging for money from strangers, wealthy donors, and companies. Neither is really an übermensch compared to the average AGP programmer socks wearer who makes 120k a year making a few python scripts weekly and enjoying peace of mind.
>>2615729
>he
>>2615623>I think you were just very dismissive tbh. Of course I was. You think I have time to engage in lengthy debates over the basics like that? If I did, I’d be stuck being an eternal debate bro on /pol/ or something.
>You asserted your positionExplained and asserted
>didn't use any theory to back it upSimple logic was sufficient
>and didn't say WHY (key word) other anon was wrongYou mean I skipped over several paragraphs of filler to get to the meat and potatoes of the discussion, which was the misuse of the term nationalism
>There's a much stronger case that "The proletariat has no country" is the beginnning of Marx's analysis, not the end, otherwise he wouldn't stress the immediate goals of proletarian revolution in a national context. As strong as an ant lifting a human maybe. You were told explicitly that this ideology goes against the idea of the state and that this is internationalism working on the national level. Yet in a hypocritical manner, you continue to assert that there is in fact some pro nationalist motive by Karl Marx in the absence of any actual evidence that indicates so.
>You started by saying Marx "should have" been "more explicit" in his "anti-nationalism" but I think you failed to demonstrate Marx's "anti-nationalism" or why "internationalism" is "anti-nationalism"I repeatedly stated communist ideology and Karl Marx goes against the idea of the state, which goes against nationalist ideals. He literally called the state nothing more than a apparatus of the bourgeoisie.
>rather than just an articulation of how existing nations should co-operate after respective proletarian revolutions.I loathe dealing with the politically illiterate.
>The abolition of nation states themselves is so much further off than the immediate tasks of bringing about proletarian revolution in each nation, which will probably occur one by one, but with greater and greater rapidity, rather than being a simple, easy, smooth, global, simultaneous process.You have evidence for literally none of this, so it’s getting dismissed as well.
>The "nationalism" you accuse me in this conversation of is proletarian internationalism Proletarian internationalism ≠ proletarian nationalism
>and it is explicitly based on what Marx says in Chapter II of the ManifestoIt is explicitly based on a twisted view on what Marx says in Chapter II of the Manifesto
>and what Lenin says about imperialism. It also draws on Kim Il Sung.I care for neither
>Why would Marx mention "state capital" and "national bank" and the conditions of a revolution in "each country" if he was not interested in articulating the tasks of the proletariat at an initial scale which is smaller than the one we desire, that is, the national scale. Your brain keeps getting twisted on this part, so let me explain it again to you. That’s not nationalism, that’s internationalism working on the national scale.
>>2615633>That makes senseIt does not
>>2615295cpusa has basically always been trash, like it barely had a chance to be anything else given domestic perscution followed by the degeneration of the comintern
>>2615632i would fuck that juicy peach
Is gold and silver worth getting into right now? Is it worth sitting on a bunch of metals and cashing out at peak?
>>2615837I recommend funkopops instead.
>>2615655In that scenario, the third world would have allied with the USSR and the us would have been starved of resouces
I hope the us continues to be more overt in their racism
Also it's important to note that on the outside to those uninitiated, that reverence for Marx and his thought can appear religious or maybe arbitrary but…
The more you read about theory, even contemporarily, on politics and the more you witness the average westerner try and fail to understand the mechanisms of world politics, it becomes ever apparent that Marx was one of history's greatest geniuses and we are so lucky that he dedicated his life to proving his theories.
He's fucking incredible. It blows my mind every single time I read him just how thorough and empirically correct he was and continues to be. It's a fucking miracle we have his works to learn from and without him I honestly don't know if humanity would have a chance to survive at all
>>2615958
If Marx was right about anything at least one of his predictions would have come true by now.
>>2615958
very naive understanding of how "power" operates
>>2615861>Also it's important to note that on the outside to those uninitiated, that reverence for Marx and his thought can appear religious or maybe arbitrary but…<Goes on to give Marx some sloppy toppy religiouslyLmao.
>>2615861>He's fucking incredible. It blows my mind every single time I read him just how thorough and empirically correct he was and continues to be. It's a fucking miracle we have his works to learn from and without him I honestly don't know if humanity would have a chance to survive at allPeople say the exact same bullshit about Jesus, Allah, Buddah, whatever the fuck philosopher.
>>2615861well marx didnt come up with much original thinking, by his own admission, he was just a recepticle for the zeitgeist of 19th century europe. what impresses me is not the breadth of his thought, but the quality of his education.
So that whole Epstein thing
What comes out of it? Forgotten already?
>>2615977And they were, for their time, figures of incredible historical significance with massive influence pushing society forward.
>>2616036>>2616034Glowing
>>2616050
Glowing brighter
>>2616086
I have sunglasses glowie
Every end of the year I look up music I've missed. Here's some political ones from America.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3GRsy8GDsw&list=OLAK5uy_nb2_R4xXsIYtXwZnuP7sDyOlNmizq77TE&index=1 (full album playlist)
>>2616050
>these people have ruled humanity since the beginning
Jews? Nah, Jews have only been around since the iron age. And pre-Jewish YHWH worship started off as part of a pantheon and was very provincial in Canaan. Actual Jews are a byproduct of the Babylonian exile. And Zionist Jews as they are conceived of today are a byproduct of the development of interfaith relations in Europe 1300-1900. It's very ahistorical and non materialist to posit that Jews have controlled everything "since the beginning." They haven't even been around that long. Do you also think the world is 6000 years old like they do? LMFAO
>>2615813>He literally called the state nothing more than a apparatus of the bourgeoisie.under capitalism. Now go re-read the "filler" where anon shows what Marx says about the state AFTER proletarian revolution.
>>2616121You’re very naive if you think I was talking about Jews, Jews don’t even exist
>>2616124>You’re very naive if you think I was talking about Jews,well you asked about epstein, then said "these people" (without specifying who)
so why don't you specify who instead of mystifying what you're saying.
>>2615813>Proletarian internationalism ≠ proletarian nationalism There is no internationalism without the nation state as the unit for cooperation between nations. hence the formulation internationalism ≠ anti-nationalism. Also why Marx, Engels, and Lenin constantly talk about what the proletariat do with the "country," "state" and "nation" after the revolution, with Marx even using the terms "state capital" and "national bank." The withering away of the state does not have an explicit timeline. It will take potentially a very long time between the first proletarian revolution (which in our time has already been rolled back; what happened to the USSR in 1991?) and the total control by the proletariat of the entire global economy. For all intents and purposes the global "civil" war between capitalism and socialism is still ongoing. Hence the nationalism of the proletarian revolutions where they occur, as a necessity to defend gains made htus far. When more and more countries have proletarian revolutions, internationalism becomes easier and the dissolution of particular nation-states into a single socialist international entity becomes more and more possible. And when I say dissolution I mean the actual dissolution of particular nation states, rather than their mere incorporation into a greater polity, like the USSR.
>>2616123bro literally called the direct quotes proving the point "filler"
>>2616047
A completely ahistorical conclusion. Religion served its purpose but eventually phases out under anything close to social democracy. But that doesn't change the fact that its advent was a psycho-technological solution to societal challenges. The Islamic golden age is the clearest example.
>>2615603Tragic truthnuke. They better turn it into a coop (and that doesn't solve the profit problem) or it burns to the ground
Chagosian vanguard status?
>>2615977> Jesus, Allah, Buddah, whatever the fuck philosopher.>AllahDid you mean Muhammad? 🤣
>>2615861>He's fucking incredible. It blows my mind every single time I read him just how thorough and empirically correct he was and continues to be. It's a fucking miracle we have his works to learn fromI like Marx a lot, but the way science works is you come to the same conclusions regardless of which "genius" discovers them. "Genius" is overrated. I think Marx would agree. Had he been killed as a child by some accident, someone else would have made similar discoveries. Maybe it would have taken a bit longer, or taken more people, but it would have happened. What is necessary is observing reality and discovering its underlying rules through repetition of experiments. Even dialectical materialism was also "discovered" by Dietzgen and a lot of the groundwork for Marx was already laid by 300 years of political economy which he studied before writing Capital. The groundwork for Marx's ideas about socially necessary labor time come from the labor theories of value already laid down by Smith and Ricardo. Newton said "If I have seen further, it is because I stand on the shoulders of giants." And a man can figure out the rate at which objects fall whether he is standing in London or Timbuktu. What enables man to discover particular physical laws is the development of productive forces to an extent which gives him the precise tools needed to make particular discoveries. Leeuwenhoek's discoveries in microbiology made in the 1600s were enabled for example by developments in lens crafting. Earlier people could not have made his discoveries because the productive forces had not yet developed to be capable of suppyling the lenses capable of the necessary level of magnification. What sets "dialectical" materialism and "proletarian" science apart from "bourgeois" science is the recognition of how the economic base and class relations distorts the practice of science. Bourgeois science relies on bourgeois funding, and the discoveries made under capitalism reinforce capitalism. If a scientist employed by Raytheon, for example, makes a particular discovery which can enable the creation of new medicines OR new weapons, which subsequent research do you think Raytheon be more likely to fund? The weapons, obviously.
more epstein were released. you'll never guess. this epstein guy? pedophile.
>>2616169if trump allows the election to happen and doesn't run himself, then newsom will win. because it's time for the pendulum to swing the democrats way.
>>26161692028 will end up in the House and lead to the National Salvation Council taking over. There is an increasing amount of support for a military coup in the country. Trump has given testing grounds with National Guard deployments. National Guard is still really popular and only are disliked because Trump. If a reasonable General did it there would be surprising mass support. Military is the only institution that is respected now
>>2616114Interesting stuff anon, pretty nice. Thank you for sharing
>>2616215impressive cajones, but lacking direction
>>2616305The right dosent hate landlords, you're confusing some antisocial degen freaks on 4chins.
>>2616324i repeat: no one likes landlords
>>2616327landlords and facebook boomers
>>2616123>>2616136>under capitalismNot quite, and even then that is not the end of his disdain for states. Leaving the capitalist mode of production does not change the inherent nature of the state, and should it entrench itself, it will inevitably backslide into being nothing more than an apparatus of the bourgeoisie once more. None of this solidifies your defense of nationalism by the way.
>>2616131>There is no internationalism withoutThere’s nothing to indicate this whatsoever, and Marx himself was open to the idea of bypassing the nation state stage himself. Nice try.
>Also why Marx, Engels, and Lenin constantly talk about what the proletariat do with the "country," "state" and "nation" after the revolution, with Marx even using the terms "state capital" and "national bank." The withering away of the state does not have an explicit timeline. It will take potentially a very long time between the first proletarian revolution (which in our time has already been rolled back; what happened to the USSR in 1991?) and the total control by the proletariat of the entire global economy. For all intents and purposes the global "civil" war between capitalism and socialism is still ongoingNone of this defends nationalism. Like I said earlier, just more filler.
>Hence the nationalism of the proletarian revolutions where they occur, as a necessity to defend gains made htus far.There is literally no justification for this statement.
>>2616169it's very likely newsom gets the nomination and his chances against JD Vance are a bit better than a coin flip if Trump does not nominate himself for a third term. everyone, and i mean everyone is polling poorly. there's a huge crisis of representation, EVERYONE is unpopular, even darlings like AOC are within margin of error of winning against JD Vance. a huge crisis has been coooking in a pressure pot and the minute pressure is released shit will boil
>>2616366Perhaps 2028 is the year of the Leftypol candidate
>>2616369This shits crashing and burning before 2028 btw
>>2616369i feel like we're living in the twilight years of…. something, like somehow that ship has sailed, bernie really was your last shot at normal politics
>>2616163>Did you mean Muhammad? 🤣You didn't say PBUH
Since we apparently don't do Collapse generals anymore, I guess I'll ask here: Should I invest in gold and silver? On the one hand, unlike other recent speculation bubbles, it seems to be driven by actual macroeconomic factors like the collapse of the dollar and real supply shortages. On the other hand, I don't want to be the dipshit who buys at the peak of a bull run and feels like a retard when everything crashes.
>>2616414Sorry, I should have clarified. I meant buying ETFs or futures or options, not physical silver lol. If we reach the point where I need to physically own precious metals to profit off them, then we'll be in a full-blown revolutionary situation and my priorities will be different.
>>2616419Dunno who that is but I love my Pitt.
>>2616414So that’s a yes for gold then.
>>2616426Of course you own a pitbull.
>>2616379It's funny what a difference ten years makes. Back then I genuinely would have been content with a Bernie presidency and some succdem reforms
>>2616435I think most Californians who own dogs own pits
>>2616435Yup! Love my baby boy.
>>2616434The reactionary hatred of pitbulls is because they see them as black coded.
>>2615770You are utterly wrong. You speak like imperialist settler. Russia made it work. First Nation, Afrikan and Aztlán get sovereignship like Russia. So YOU are the fool who defies Lenin
I AM GOVERNOR GRUESOME GAVE
MY PEOPLE WANT BUT WILL NEVER HAVE
SOON I WILL BE PRES -I-DENT
>>2616467>they randomly let out*who accidentally got out
i have no idea who his owner was btw, and still don't
>>26164012 much noodle, not enough veg
>>2616443Ignoring the IDpol, pits are statistically more likely to maul and kill people. Dogs are from wolves and you can still breed more aggressive behaviors.
>>2616465>Russia made it work.USSR failed tho…
>>2616125he never specified wtf he was talking about lol.
>>2615401>like half of this thread is literally coming up with complaints about a non-existant socialist USA that has never existed except in fantasyi know what you're talking about and i find it annoying too, but people will need to answer some questions and come up with a party line before the questions become urgent. not everything can be handled on the fly without planning. The question of indigenous sovereignty and whether a revolutionary government will need to pay the former capitalist government's foreign debts are big questions here.
>>2615439>You probably think Marx was promoting nationalism because he said to work initially on the national level and overthrow ones own local bourgeois, don’t you?Yes you have to initially work and defend the revolution on a national level… this is nationalism whether you like it or not. once there are many socialist states capable of supporting each other… you still have nationalism because "internationalism" takes the form of….
allied nations recognizing one another and respecting each other. under communism pitbulls will be exterminated
>>2616477>Yes you have to initially work and defend the revolution on a national level… this is nationalismThat is internationalism, not nationalism which is to be opposed. You can’t twist that fact.
>>2616467I think a big issue is that American culture as a whole is allergic to any kind of discipline, whether it’s dogs or kids or guns, so you get situations where someone doesn’t train a dog they should. Sorry that happened to you mang.
>>2616471It’s got Zucchini, Celery, Carrot, onion, and minced garlic.
>>2616473Scientifically Pits are about as aggressive towards humans as golden retrievers. Dog attacks are often misattributed to pits so you get incidents where a random mutt attacks a person and it’s labeled a “vicious pitbull”
>>2616483did you read the rest? you might as well be pretending molecules are anti-atom.
>>2616483wait until you learn what the USSR called WW2
CPUS(sy)A anon has a small penis that's why he has an attack dog. Benis broblem makes him insecure that's also the reason why he chose the socially most acceptable "communist" party that shills for the democrats anyway.
There, I told you a secret he told me in private chat.
If he denies someone might post his migrobenis pics too.
>>2616485>Dog attacks are often misattributed to pits Most studies differentiate breeds and some will even go into head shape and weight if breed is unknown. Pitts are still on top.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/05/190522141825.htm >>2616491I did. Didn’t make a difference when it came to condensing it down.
>you might as well be pretending molecules are anti-atomThat’s more comparable to what you’re trying to do right now, nationalist.
>>2616492Don’t make me laugh
>>2616505>That’s more comparable to what you’re trying to do right now, nationalistIs it? You say internationalism is anti-nation. That is much more analogous to saying molecules are anti-atom. Again, the constituent piece of "internationalism" is the nation, mutual respect for sovereignty is essential. If internationalism were simply anti-nationalism it would be called that.
>>2616493https://www.reddit.com/r/BanPitBulls/comments/17vxhvo/its_not_a_dog_overpopulation_crisis_its_a_pit/
>Out of 62 dogs in this image there are 4 huskies, a Chihuahua, 2 small terrier types, a corgi, what looks to be a border collie mix, and what looks to be a Great Dane mix (second row, third from right). The rest are pit bulls. Looking at their website, this is a pretty representative sample. That corgi is probably adopted already.
>This particular shelter is so full, they’re housing dogs in staff offices and crates for lack of space.
>Pit bull saviors, why isn’t every ounce of your effort and energy out towards spaying and neutering pit bulls to stop this tide of unwanted dogs before it happens? Why is it preferable to let these dogs be born into a world where there’s no space for them, no room anywhere, where they don’t fit in with modern society? Why is the solution “every home needs to own a pibble uwu” instead of pushing for MANDATORY alteration and registration so we know exactly who is creating the problem?>>2616501It's more of a White guilt thing. White liberals started getting into pitbulls like in the last 10 years, probably because they were made aware of how many pitbulls the Mexicans are producing that nobody wants and I guess they feel like they're helping solve that. The same White guilt thing also started a trend of them adopting sickly dogs recently.
Why are rightoids acting schizo about somalian daycares now? How have they deluded themselves into believing its fraud when you dont let strangers film in your daycare?
I feel like these guys have subhuman levels of intelligence at this point.
Do we even exist in the same reality as them?
>>2616509Got a link to what you're refrencing?
>>2616485>Sorry that happened to you mang.It's fine. Nothing came of out. My neighbor saw it happen. We asked around and nobody knew where he came from or who owned him so we called animal control.
>>2616509Seriously, it feels like mass psychosis almost. The tweet has over 90 million views on twitter. JD Vance is saying this guy is better than pulitzer prize winners.
Nick Shirley, the "journalist" filming this shit, tells you near the end of his video that he's got private security with him while filming. And that's in addition to the old white guy aggressively shouting about fraud and his cameraman. Despite this, he acts like the only possible reason people don't want to talk to him is because they are involved in fraud.
He's basically just racebaiting on a massive scale. I genuinely hope this guy gets sued, because he's slandered a bunch of random people.
>>2616510>Got a link to what you're refrencing?This shit is what i was referring to:
https://x.com/nickshirleyy/status/2004642794862961123 >>2616507>You say internationalism is anti-nation. It is.
>That is much more analogous to saying molecules are anti-atom.Saying nationalism is the same as internationalism is much more analogous to saying molecules are anti-atom.
>Again, the constituent piece of "internationalism" is the nationIt is not.
>mutual respect for sovereignty is essential.It is not.
>If internationalism were simply anti-nationalism it would be called that.Why not just call it nationalism then? Oh wait, because they’re not the same in the slightest, and communism explicitly goes against deranged “patriots” and their fervor for the state.
>>2616517Also, the signature ear shape is the result of ears getting clipped in the young age. Heh heh
>>2616517America is certainly trying to start trouble with venezuela. I wonder if the upcoming war will just be for the oil or also because trump wants to distract from the epstein files.
>>2616523Had a shepherd once, objectively the Pit I’ve got now is just way sweeter and more obedient. Had a couple walk their Aussies off leash about a year ago and they started running up and snapping at my dog and I.
Either way I’ve had a few breeds over the years and I think pits are my favorite now.
>>2616524>upcoming war we're already at war.
> just be for the oilit's for several reasons
>distract from the epstein filesthat's one of them, too
>>2616523>>2616529D tier dogs
>>2616534>>2616529>>2616523Wat da dog doin
>>2616544this meme goes too soft on anglos
kept greentexting on accident; i'm tired all this shit about phrenology and crime statistics about a fucking dog breed kinda sounds like racism to me desu no thanks kiddo
>>2616545I don’t think Shepherds are bad, but I think they need training and enrichment that some people really don’t give them.
I like Pits cause they’re people pleasers. They’ll be big lapdogs if you’re watching a movie and they’re gonna be bounding around with you if you take em hiking. They just like being around people.
>>2616558WAOWIE so wholesome chungus capitan of industry is a heckin based ENLIGHTENED CENTRIST?
>>2616556>Chihuahuas were bred to be small and have big bulging eyes<so true>Pit Bulls were bred to bite people<wtf I don't believe in that made up nonsenseConsider the following:
>It is believed all dogs that are now classified as pit bulls descend from the British bull-and-terrier, which were first imported into North America in the 1870s.[7][8] The bull-and-terrier was a breed of dog developed in the United Kingdom in the early 19th century for the blood sports of dog fighting and rat baiting. It was created by crossing the ferocious, thickly muscled Old English Bulldog with the agile, lithe, feisty Black and Tan Terrier.[7][8] The aggressive Old English Bulldog, which was bred for bear and bull baiting, was often also pitted against its own kind in organized dog fights, but it was found that lighter, faster dogs were better suited to dogfighting than the heavier Bulldog.[7][8][9] To produce a lighter, faster, more agile dog that retained the courage and tenacity of the Bulldog, outcrosses from local terriers were tried, and ultimately found to be successful.[7][8][9] >>2616558it's just like muh awesome super captain amerika comics, ebpic
What can actually be done to prevent war with Venezuela? Armed action is off the table and protest doesn’t work
>>2616567only nuclear deterrence
>>2616563>Black and Tan Terrierawesome, so it's based on a fascist death squad. not a good look for CPDNC Anon
>>2616570Civilians in America hijacking a nuke silo in defiance of the government? Sounds cool, how could it be done?
>>2616565>>2616561Was his plan correct tho?
>As Douglas Brinkley writes in “Wheels for the World,” his book on Henry Ford and Ford Motor, the automaker was firm in his belief that introducing capitalism was the best way to undermine communism.Considering the USSR no longer exists, maybe he was right.
>>2616573oh. you meant what can USAnians do? nothing. they don't want do anything anway
>>2616569my ex's family had pits when she was a kid that murdered cats for sport and it was normal. fuck that noise
>>2616569truth nuke and when I ran into that loose pitbull the other day with my toddler I had to stay super fucking still even though I wanted to run because I knew if I ran he would see us as prey. whereas if you walk away calmly they MIGHT leave you alone.
>>2616563>”Pits were bred to bite people”<points to them being bred in dog fightsDog fights aren’t comparable to “being bred to bite people” because the dogs were often fighting other dogs.
This isn’t even science, it’s just vibes based—actual studies show pitbulls aren’t this intrinsically aggressive dog breed.
>>2616580but dogs are people
>>2616575I’d prefer to have some legal defense when the JDPON comes
>>2616581If dogs are people pigs are superhuman
the USA being the maximum exponent of fascism and the pitbull being their poster dog, the pitbull is therefore the most fascist dog.
>>2616580there was a kid in my class in elementary that had a fucked up freddie kruger face because a pit attacked him. vibes based maybe, but the notion that people should be allowed to have these literal murder machines as pets without licensing and that 'people just need to raise them better' is retarded cope on your part
>>2616587Jazz and rock ARE fascist, Adorno was right
>>2616587that being, CPUSAnon the maximum PROponent of fascism?
>>2616581Oh yeah well if they're people how come they cant talk?
>>2616587Is the pitbull the US's poster dog? That doesn't sound right. Most of them end up in shelters and pounds because people don't want them.
I'll never fucking understand why Xi Jinping doesn't just go on the JRE to clear everything up. He doesn't give a fuck about us or communism
>>2616595just like amerikkkan children
>>2616597what I would have done to see Nasrallah make a TAFS appearance
>>2616600sounds like both should be NEUtered
>>2616588It’s literally been proven again and again that pits aren’t innately aggressive. Saying “uhh you need a loisence for that pit” but not applying that to Shepherds or Retrievers is ridiculous.
>>2616571>Thinking the “black and tan terrier” was named after fascist death squads in Northern Ireland Literally the epitome of vibes based anti-pit nonsense.
>>2616580This is true tbh. Not to say pitbulls don't attack people, but I've owned several and their instinctive aggression is clearly directed toward dogs, not humans. They are generally quite affectionate toward humans and when they do attack people, I suspect it's because their prey drive momentarily misfires.
That said, most people should never own a pit. But most people probably shouldn't own dogs period.
>>2616603when did I say it was a pit exclusive thing?
>>2616603you are so right, preventable animal maimings really kill my vibe and I don't want that in my society, ideally
There’s literally no reason to own a dog if you aren’t a shepherd or hunting geese
>>2616611To be fair, hunting in the US is also treatler
>>2616574>introducing capitalism was the best way to undermine communism.This doesn't really make sense from a Marxist standpoint, since capitalist development is a prerequisite for communist development (excluding primitive communism ofc). "Introducing" capitalism can't undermine something that couldn't exist without capitalism. And indeed, industrial capitalist property relations had already existed in Russia for quite some time before Henry Ford.
Now, *regression* toward capitalism would certainly undermine communism, and that's a more accurate characterization of Ford's philosophy.
>>2616612hunting is less treatler than buying foreign meat. if consuming imported meat is treatler exploitation of third world proles, then hunting your own meat is less treatler, especially since burgers fucked up and killed all the wolves so now we have an overpopulation of deer that need to be culled regularly.
>>2616615The only hunters in the US are petit bourgeois republicans with small businesses, those are the only peoples who can afford a gun, ammo, all the various gun and hunting permits and the private land needed
>>2616620i love how dumb old propaganda is
>>2616595It was an extremely well liked dog in the early 20th century because it was both a notable American breed and very affectionate to their humans. Gradually got pushed out in favor of golden retrievers and shepherds.
>>2616604Funny enough mine is pretty friendly around small dogs and cats, it’s the big ones he gets nervous around, usually tries to back away from them.
>>2616607You’d be more likely to get breed specific band than anything universal cause Karen with her dog that growls at anyone nearby and wears a fake service dog vest is fine and it’s just those pits that are problems.
Oh and if you want to do bow hunting or muzzleloading good fucking luck there’s more permits and more money spent like anyone can afford this crap
>>2616626>It was an extremely well liked dog in the early 20th century because it was both a notable American breed and very affectionate to their humans. Gradually got pushed out in favor of golden retrievers and shepherds.<Every year the American Kennel Club releases our ranking of the most popular dog breeds based on AKC registration statistics for the previous year.
<The French Bulldog continues to top the rankings at the No. 1 spot for the third year in a row. The Labrador Retriever, who had a 31-year run as the most popular breed, is in the No. 2 spot for the third year in a row. Since 2022, the top 5 most popular breeds nationally have not changed rankings, but many other breeds have moved spots from 2023 to 2024. Below, find ranked annual lists of AKC-recognized breeds.1 French Bulldog
2 Labrador Retriever
3 Golden Retriever
4 German Shepherd Dog
5 Poodle
French Bulldogs won.
>pic 2<Mutt, a French Bulldog belonging to the YMCA Cigarette Dog delivery service, was wounded twice while trying to improve the morale of soldiers in the U.S. Army's 11th Engineers during World War I. Muzzle loaders, especially modern ones are such a fucking pain, my piece of shit brother in law gave me one for cleaning his place, he left it loaded for three years and I can’t get the breech out to actually clean this rusty piece of shit so it’s gonna take at least $75 to go to a gunsmith because black powder is absolutely filthy
hunting is inherently treatler because it requires you to own fucking PROPERTY and a BIG OBNOXIOUS TRUCK and fucking GUNS (the ultimate treat for amerifats). fuck them uyghas in they trees that are set up with FOOD to lure UNSUSPECTING, INFERIOR CREATURES to their deaths. Maybe the same would work for them, like bait them with treats and cap them
>>2616580>This isn’t even science, it’s just vibes based They cause the most bite damage to children.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/05/190522141825.htm>actual studies show pitbulls aren’t this intrinsically aggressive dog breed.That one "study" was done by the American Temperament Test Society a privately owned business that sells temperament test published on a dog rescue site trying to get people to adopt Pits. It's not a real study.
>>2616638Not all hunters use bait, many states ban it, and you don’t need a truck to carry a deer carcass, you can drag it or use an atv
>>2616642atv is treatler too. dragging a dead dear up a hill good album
>>2616645Indie folk is the most treatler music, sorry bro
>>2616646Under the hood is true insanity, especially if you haven’t field dressed it
>>2616654Objectively a good thing as feral hogs are the worst thing to happen to any environment short of nuclear catastrophe
>>2616640Quick question; are you the same anon who posted a link from a subreddit called “ban pitbulls”?
That said studies repeatedly corroborate that breed is a poor predictor of aggressive behavior in dogs.
https://www.aaas.org/news/dogs-breed-doesnt-determine-its-behavior >>2616668i've posted so fucking hard
honkoid status?
>>2616668i voooted harder o' NAFOxisters
>>2616668I called Trump a doody head.
whatever happened to brett coopers snow white movie
>>2616675Honestly I wish Disney would just apologize to the team that did Treasure Planet and take more risks on animated productions. Who was looking at Snow White or Cinderella or whatever and saying “this would be so much better with Gal Gadot!”
>>2616683Oh yeah, this is why we were talking about it, watching this Smokey Bear PSA from 1993 and how fucking clean the animation is.
Honestly American animation from the 90s-early00s era was the best that's ever been done IMO. Blows anime out of the water. Well 90s-early00s anime blows the rest of anime out of the water too.
>>2616683>nowEverything was outsourced to Korea back in the 90s.
>>2616636could have chipped so much steel away from the chamber thats its unsafe for use now
>>2616683Something that blew my mind and depressed me at the same time was I heard ages ago that someone crunched the numbers and the average episode of Family Guy cost more to produce than the whole Mahoraga fight in JJK. Which for those who don’t watch anime here was basically an insane spectacle of over the top action where the animators were working themselves to the bones creating. Like the most apt comparison would be imagine if one of the Madea movies cost more to make than James Cameron’s Avatar. Like the animators and the artists were fucking working themselves almost to death for it and then family guy spends maybe 5 times the cost animating Peter Griffin saying this is worse than the time he played FIFA with Tom Brady.
>>2616696I doubt it but it could be true, I broke two sockets trying to get that breech plug out
>>2616660No I only posted the sciencedaily link which was summary of a study of hospital recorded maulings by The Ohio State University College of Medicine.
>https://www.aaas.org/news/dogs-breed-doesnt-determine-its-behavior<paired with 200,000 answers from dog owners on related surveysA self reported survey of dog owners meaning if they like their dog they will overlook aggression out of bias. Hospital recordings of bites have more weight imo.
>>2616636Okay so just a shot in the dark here, but couldn’t you use a bit of Barkeeper’s friend (heads up it’s Oxalic Acid) on the most rusted parts and then maybe some compressed air to force it out? Don’t have guns in that bad a shape but if it’s a gift I figure you can maybe try some cheap ass methods. BKF has been great at cleaning some uncleanable stuff in my experience.
>>2616668I killed several reactionaries (communists who disagree with me on 1 or 2 small issues)
>>2616720If I remember right I think Browder briefly worked as an accountant so the lack of joy or life in his eyes can be explained by that.
>>2616668I've read theory and history and recommended others read theory and history and right now that's the baseline for furthering the cause of communism because the masses have reached a state of terminal retardation and the so-called "leftists" are on average probably even less class conscious than the average Joe. The average Joe at least has a healthy contempt for both ruling parties whereas American "leftists" almost universally are mentally enslaved to the Democrats.
>>2616668I wonder if Browder's "American as Apple Pie" socialism or Foster's Syndicalism could make a comeback and overcome the failures of the current popular models.
>IP range-ban the worst shitposters on this thread
<posting rate crashes
hmmm
>>2616683Luckily that's one problem AI is aiming to fix. Instead of outsourcing or cutting corners, the talent will be retouching,re-AI-processing the media.
And the whole thing (all of computing really) will run "on the cloud" from some abstracted network of datacenters property of a few megacorporations who have the rights, because of national security, on all the hardware. Eventually that too can be off(friend)shored, since datacenters employ basically no one and worse comes to worst and some actual labor is required it's just cheaper to call them in.
Say what you want, but when techbros and lolberts talked about "the magic computah black box" what would conjure a passive income for you by meaninglessly crunching numbers through unfathomable energy costs… they weren't lying. It was just not crypto which would achieve the digital rentier model, it was the cold war/AI consolidation.
Rejoice. If big capital are making this a thing, they are either in a cannibal frenzy OR…
They have it on good word that :
1)China can't be stopped and will, if they don't consolidate first, destroy their semiconductor cartel profits.
2)Energy production is about to be revolutionized to allow for this retarded model to function.
>>2616733My regular ISP is range banned. It says:
>Datacenter node (AUTO)Now they're banning a lot of the VPNs too. I hope they remove all possible methods of posting on this godforsaken website. It would be the best for everyone.
>>2616725I think it’s less a trick of rhetoric (“communism is actually uber patriotic”) and more being connected to the actual struggles of people daily.
Like it’s been a while since I read anything by Browder but I’m pretty sure some people are just putting the cart before the horse. Like I don’t think Browder’s personal ideology was “we should do stuff if it’s American” and then convincing himself Communism was the most American thing, he was doing a rhetorical parry of the old attack that “communism is UnAmerican”—something he was a perfect candidate to do because he was a homegrown American white guy. He didn’t “sound foreign” he didn’t “look foreign”, and that was something he could use to his advantage. Funny enough this is a lasting accusation thrown at us, which makes subverting it a little fun. Like I don’t “look” like a communist as most people imagine, and I had a friend who joked about my membership saying I report to some Russian accented guy that threatens to kill me if I don’t complete “my missions” but he softened up when I explained that the head of the Los Angeles club are basically friendly Hispanic grandparents. It’s easy to hate and fear communism when you think it’s, like, the bad guy from Stranger Things—some 6’7” Russkie in a military uniform who says nothing and can break your neck with one hand. It’s a lot harder when it’s your neighbors.
Anyways, yeah, Browder was pushing against the idea of Communists being UnAmerican. Like in “what is communism?” Part 8, Browder talks about “Americanism” and in the first paragraph specifically mentions how often Communists are told to “go back to their country” if they “dislike America so much”. Now he does a few rhetorically clever things by quickly attributing the accusations to “Mr. Hearst” aka William Randolph Hearst, an old news baron who was disliked enough that we got Citizen Kane out of it. Basically elevating the conflict from the ignorant schmuck saying “Commies go home!” to the yellow news baron behind these remarks. He then immediately responds with “We can’t think of any other spot on the globe in which we’d rather be. We love our country.” And then creates a juxtaposition: Hearst says he “loves America” because he profits from it and Communists “love America” because they actually work and toil among the masses, that if they hated America they’d just “surrender it to Wall Street”.
The argument isn’t “let me tell you how much Communism is American” or “how important America is”, it’s getting at the subtext behind “communists hate America” and reframing it: “it’s not US making people’s lives miserable, it’s YOU and if we hated America as much as you say we do we’d leave it to YOU because where YOU go you make people poorer and you exploit them and we’re trying to prevent that.” It’s not all that different from Lenin’s piece on Russian Chauvinism in that regard.
>>2616733I think they just gave up on USApol, but they're still posting on other threads.
>>2616785Oh, following it up with what I think are decent rhetorical arguments from Browder in the piece. Here's the whole thing
https://www.marxists.org/archive/browder/what-is-8.pdf
>We are determined to save our country from the hell of capitalism. And most of us were born here, so Hearst's gag is not addressed to us anyway. But workers in America who happen to be born abroad are just as much Americans as anybody else. We all originated across the waters, except perhaps a tiny minority of pure-blooded Indians. And the foreign-born workers have worked harder for less wages on behalf of this country than anybody else and deserve, at the minimum, a little courtesy from those who would speak of Americanism. There is less historical justification in America than perhaps in any other major country for that narrow nationalism, that chauvinism, that makes a cult of a "Chosen People." We in America are a mongrel breed and we glory in it.[…]
>half the names in the American social register [Minor note, this is a thing WASPs did to admire their "pedigree"] originated in men who were transported from Europe on conviction of crime or who, in the new country, became bold bandits and buccaneers. It was the more aggressive and violent types who rose to the top most quickly in our early days and laid the foundations of the great American fortunes. They were the Al Capones of their day, with no income tax department to bring them to grief.This is where it gets pretty cheesy, he talks about the founding fathers and 1776 for a bit but I think the national mythos was far stronger back then, still this was a fun bit:
>The Declaration of Independence was for that time what the Communist Manifesto is for ours. Copy all the most hysterical Hearst editorials of today against Moscow, Lenin, Stalin, substitute the words America, Washington, Jefferson, and the result is almost verbatim copy of the diatribes of English and European reactionary politicians in the closing years of the eighteenth century against our American founding fathers. Revolution was then "an alien doctrine imported from America" as now it is "imported from Moscow."See I think this was clever because he's pointing to the obvious fact that the Conservatives/Reactionaries would be on the wrong side of every historical battle, and only pretend later they'd supported it all along. Like you see this with fucking Republicans pretending that MLK was a Conservative.
Finally, to end his case, after glazing Lincoln for a bit:
>The revolutionary tradition is the heart of Americanism. That is incontestable, unless we are ready to agree that Americanism means what Hearst says, slavery to outlived institutions, preservation of privilege, the degradation of the masses.>We Communists claim the revolutionary traditions of Americanism. We are the only ones who continue those traditions and apply them to the problems of today.>We are the Americans and Communism is the Americanism of the Twentieth Century.>That does not mean, of course, that we communists raise the slogan of "Back to 1776." Such reactionary stupidity was committed by the LaFollette "third party" movement in 1924,[…]
>Americanism, as we understand it, means to appropriate for our country all the best achievements of the human mind in all lands. Just as the men who wrote the Declaration of Independence had been nurtured upon the French Encyclopedists and the British Classical political economists, so the men who will write our modern Declaration of Independence of a dying capitalist system must feed themselves upon the teachings of Marx, Engels, Lenin, and Stalin, the modern representatives of human progress.Decent enough closer in my opinion. And given how comparatively "recent" Lenin, Marx, and Engels (and still living: Stalin) were as opposed to The Founders, Browder was basically elevating them to mythic status.
Are we starting to witness a "battle for second place" between the U.S. and India?https://arnaudbertrand.substack.com/p/are-we-starting-to-witness-a-battleMao Keji - whom I have the pleasure to know personally - is one of the most thought-provoking thinkers in China right now.
Mao studied at Tsinghua University - China’s top academic institution - and worked during several years as an analyst at China’s influential National Development and Reform Commission (NDRC), the central organization coordinating China’s economic planning and policymaking. He is currently on leave as a visiting PhD Candidate at Harvard University.
Mao’s main field of study is India’s geopolitics, and he was one of the very few to predict the counter-intuitive cooling of US–India relations all the way back in March 2025, almost 6 months before Trump’s punitive August tariffs, and before the warm Modi-Xi-Putin meet at the SCO summit in September.
But his wisdom goes way beyond India. Long-time followers will recall I’ve written about his thoughts three times before: first on his analysis of Chinese youth and their pragmatic rejection of Western ideological tribalism, the second time on his striking parallels between Trump’s DOGE movement and episodes like Khrushchev’s secret speech and China’s Cultural Revolution, and lastly I shared an article he wrote about interpreting Nezha 2 geopolitically.
What makes Mao such a valuable thinker is precisely this range: he moves fluidly between civilizational analysis, domestic politics, history and geopolitics, always grounded in material realities rather than ideological abstractions. And, most importantly, he’s typically right.
Long story short, he just published a new article in Sinification and, true to form, it’s easily the sharpest piece of geopolitical analysis I’ve come across this month.
In that article Mao analyses the sharp deterioration of US-India relations and even ends with this striking prediction: that the US and India may eventually find themselves locked in a “battle for second place” - competing for the silver medal in a world where China has become the unassailable number one.
Let’s look at his arguments.
Decline and anxiety as the root causeMao believes - as do I - that there’s been a fundamental shift in the U.S. strategic approach to the world caused by two intertwined factors: 1) structural reality - the actual erosion of relative American power and in particular the narrowing gap with China, and 2) the associated decline anxiety which he says is particularly acute within the MAGA coalition’s “national survival” narrative.
As he puts it, the US now increasingly perceives the costs of geopolitical confrontation with traditional adversaries as outweighing the benefits. Containing China and Russia requires sustained investment that the U.S. now fears is accelerating its decline: “the Trump administration has been deeply preoccupied with concerns over America’s own relative decline, displaying a far more pronounced inward-looking tendency and adopting extreme caution towards traditional forms of geopolitical competition, lest the depletion of strategic resources accelerates that very decline.”
Under that new strategy, nominal “allies” aren’t investments anymore but liabilities: the U.S. is paying for their security, their access to American markets, their privileged position in the global order - and essentially getting nothing in return if geopolitical confrontation is now something the U.S. wishes to steer clear of.
Heck, under that new framework “allies” are even actively harmful: they’re tripwires that could drag America into exactly the kind of costly confrontations it’s now trying to avoid, and they’re altogether obstacles to the deals Washington wants to strike with Moscow and Beijing. From Washington’s new perspective, allied solidarity isn’t a force multiplier anymore but a straitjacket.
From “chess pieces to encircle enemies” to “blood bags”Mao uses a vivid metaphor which I find excellent: he says that the U.S.’s new approach is to treat “allies” no more as “chess pieces to encircle enemies” but as “blood bags”, in the medical sense of the term whereby a patient in decline requires constant transfusions just to stay alive. Allies aren’t there to help encircle China or Russia anymore - they’re there to be tapped: their markets opened to American goods, their industries subordinated to American priorities, their resources extracted to revitalize a declining hegemon.
The relationship has gone from predominantly strategic to overwhelmingly parasitic.
This logic explains what otherwise looks like incoherence. Why is Washington harsher on say Europe than on Russia? Because Russia has power - and continuing confrontation risks accelerating American decline. Europe does not (or, rather, it could have power but it prefers to bend the knee), making it a safer target. The friend-foe distinction has collapsed into something simpler: who can impose costs, and who can be a “blood bag”?
In this frame, China and Russia become not threats to contain but actors to coexist with - perhaps even, as Mao provocatively suggests, “collaborators in forms of geopolitical collusion.”
The ultimate “battle for second place” with IndiaThis all brings us to India, which as a reminder is Mao’s core area of expertise.
For two decades, India was Washington’s darling. The US practiced what Mao calls “strategic altruism” - supporting India’s rise without demanding returns, on the assumption that a stronger India would naturally balance China. Trump’s first term followed this orthodoxy faithfully: he revived the Quad in 2017 after it had lain dormant for nearly a decade. Biden afterwards intensified the India investment, launching iCET to give India access to cutting-edge technology in AI and semiconductors, elevating the Quad to leader-level summits, and creating INDUS-X to deepen defense cooperation. The consensus seemed unshakeable.
Trump’s second term dramatically broke the pattern. India now faces 25% tariffs plus an additional 25% secondary sanction for buying Russian oil - a total of 50%, higher than China. H-1B visa fees have been hiked dramatically, targeting the Indian diaspora. The proposed HIRE Act would impose a 25% tax on outsourcing, threatening India’s $260 billion IT sector. And the rhetoric has turned vicious: Trump mocking that “the Indian economy is dead,” advisers calling India “a laundromat for the Kremlin,” figures from Trump’s camp branding Indian immigrants “Third World invaders.”
There might seem to be, at first glance, a contradiction with what Mao is otherwise saying: if Trump is looking to step back from geopolitical confrontation with Russia, why is he trying to pressure India with these sanctions for buying Russian oil and why the demonizing rhetoric around being “a laundromat for the Kremlin”? Not quite, as Mao argues: the Russia angle is a pretext, not a principled policy. If Washington genuinely cared about Russian oil purchases, it would apply similar pressure to China and Turkey - but it doesn’t, because they can impose costs. India cannot, so it gets squeezed and Russian oil becomes a handy justification. Principle has nothing to do with it.
Why such harshness with India? Mao’s answer is that, essentially, India is becoming what China was - a rising power that won’t bend the knee.
It’s in a way remarkably similar to the shift in approach that Trump took with regards to China during his first term. Of course China wasn’t exactly “Washington’s darling” the way India was, but up until Trump 1.0 the nominal policy towards China was engagement - the assumption that integrating China into the global economy would eventually liberalize it. Trump shattered that consensus, opting for a strategy of aggressive confrontation towards a rising China that wouldn’t subordinate itself to the U.S.
Now he can’t confront China much anymore as they can hit back and impose real costs. But he can still do India. Same pattern: rising power, won’t align fully (doesn’t want to become a full-fledged blood bag), confident about its own destiny. And India is still at a stage where it can’t hit back meaningfully so they’ve become the safe outlet for the same impulse the U.S. had towards China: punish the upstart that won’t defer.
As Mao puts it, in the U.S.’s eyes “India appears conspicuously ungrateful” for benefiting from American generosity while refusing to play by American rules. It’s the same narrative once applied to China: we opened our markets, transferred our technology, welcomed you into our order - and you repay us with defiance instead of deference?
Mao argues this friction is structural, not personal - and will outlast Trump. China’s rise hit America’s manufacturing base, fueling Trump 1.0’s trade war. India’s rise hits America’s service sector - the white-collar jobs America retreated into after deindustrialization. China took the factories and India is coming for the offices. And that’s arguably worse politically: it threatens the educated middle class who thought they were safe.
Follow the logic forward and you arrive at Mao’s most provocative prediction: the US and India, instead of allying against China, may end up competing against each other -for second place beneath Beijing.
And if China’s lead becomes truly unassailable? Mao sees a scenario where China’s structural tensions with both Washington and New Delhi might “mutually unwind,” as each rival would become more preoccupied with the other than with Beijing.
The great irony would be complete: the whole point of America’s two-decade investment in India was offshore balancing, building up a regional counterweight so China could be checked without direct US confrontation. In Mao’s scenario, China becomes the offshore balancer - secure at the top, watching its two rivals turn on each other.
The battle for the number 2 spot may have just begun.
>>2616813I can't imagine how hopelessly ignorant I would have to be about economics, geopolitics, the worldwide balance of powers, imperialism, and just plain basic common sense to ever think there's a world (at least a world anytime within the next century or two) where America and India are "competitors" for second place to China. It's just so absurdly detached from reality that you might as well argue that Nicaragua and the UK are in a battle to see who can unseat Sweden as the top dog.
>>2616813>Heck, under that new framework “allies” are even actively harmful: they’re tripwires that could drag America into exactly the kind of costly confrontations it’s now trying to avoid, Hasn't that usually been the case? WW1, WW2, Vietnam.
>>2616827America's power is obviously declining, I'm not disputing that. But you do not understand the scale of how vastly USA exceeds India industrially, economically, militarily, socially, technologically, etc. America's GDP is roughly 8 times as big India's despite India's population being nearly 4 times as big as America's. The US spends over 11 times the amount on its military as India. These countries are not even in the same geopolitical ballpark, let alone being actual competitors. China too absolutely dwarfs India in development, but even China lags way way way behind the US in terms of overall development, power, and standard of living.
Now, the US obviously has a hostile and combative relationship with China, but that does not mean it's a "competitor" with equal power in the way that the imperialist powers are competitors. China is a vast country with vast resources and an even vaster labor market and the US wants a bigger slice of that pie, especially given China's increasing regional influence. That is the root cause of the escalating tensions and probable future war between the two. But to suggest that the two are competing superpowers, let alone that China is WINNING such an imaginary competition, is absolutely ludicrous.
>>2616835>But to suggest that the two are competing superpowers, let alone that China is WINNING such an imaginary competition, is absolutely ludicrous.You live in delulu. The sooner you accept China as your Lawd and Saviour the sooner you can escape delulu.
But you won't. Delulu is the air you breath in and exhale.
>>2616838If I consoooom enough Labubu, can it cure my Delulu?
>>2616838What, you think I don't wish China was winning its war against the US? I'm keeping sober and realistic because I have to, not because I want imperialism to win.
>>2615288Vance looks like a wholesome chungus in this pic. Where did it all go wrong
>>2616813Read through all of that and at no point did he address how India could become number 3 let alone vie for the number 2 spot.
>And if China’s lead becomes truly unassailable? Mao sees a scenario where China’s structural tensions with both Washington and New Delhi might “mutually unwind,” as each rival would become more preoccupied with the other than with Beijing.He made zero case for it, the only thing he said is that America will turn on India. Ok…. How does that make India powerful?
India is like a dozen countries in a trench coat. If anything I'd expect India to balkanize at some point.
>>2616847
Or you could simply stop blaming the working masses for decisions largely made beyond their control or consent.
>>2616849
The degeneration of the communist parties (and the associated trade unions) was a result of a privileged and bureaucratic layer of the working class, who effectively became middle class functionaries in all but name. This phenomenon was already being noted by Marx and Engels by the late 19th century and Lenin obviously did a more detailed breakdown. But the labor aristocrats are a relatively small portion of the proletariat. It's wrong to blame the proles as a whole for the crimes of their so-called leaders.
>>2616738The Leftypol that we deserve is one where only CPUSAnon and Moffin' post.
Wtf happened to Houdini and King Lear btw?
>>2616846I have a bad feeling. The CCP will collapse by 2034. Xi will be remembered as the Brezhnev of China, the man of stagnation.
The Do Nothing and Win meme will be viewed in retrsopect as Xi's fatal lack of initiative.
>>2616861China is doing stuff all the time anon, like building the largest hydroelectric dam on earth, they're just not interventionist like the US. That's what the do nothing win meme is in reference to
>>2616864Why is china stagnating then
>>2616846>>2616813In all of that too, he doesn't address at all why India and China are going to stay cool. China and India have much more reasons to go to war than the US and either of them. They're saying that a rising India is a threat to USA power, but what about China's. Why are they going to become besties?
I think the whole thing reads like wishful thinking.
>China and India are the two largest countries by population vying for the same kind of role in the global economy>They're right next to each other. >>2616865They're not, they have 5% gdp growth, it will likely take more than 9 years for their economy to mature enough so they do a complete neoliberal turn which still won't be a collapse
>>2616867They've had almost 0% GDP growth in $ for 3 years now.
Reminder that reading to your kids gives them an unfair advantage against other kids
>>2616878I don't care that much about flat GDP growth. But yes, it's also stable around 5% sure. Unlikely they'll do a complete neoliberal turn tho, not really sure what that would even mean in the context of China
>>2616887like anybody here is gonna have kids
>>2616835Mark Milley:
>“During the Cold War there were two superpowers, immediately following the Cold War there was a unipolar moment, so for a short time the US clearly was pre-eminent and the only real superpower out there,” Gen Milley said.
>“But today, it is clear that we are in a multipolar world.”
>“They are probably the one country who has the legs and the distance that could literally challenge the US position on a global scale,” the retired general said.thinking india is a superpower is silly, but what's more silly is assuming americas position as #1 is secure. I think its obvious to all observing countries that america and china are neck and neck in power rankings. america doesn't even have the industrial capacity to restock their reserves of interceptor missiles it blew through defending israel over the summer, for that reason alone it would never want to get into a total war with china
>>2616935There are 2 and a half poles in the world. USA and China, Russia being half a pole. Russia could become the third pole, but Cucktin cannot commit. He will act buddies with Xi and Modi, posture as a great Slav indépendantist with Lukashenko, and then lick the ass of the West at the first opportunity because he still believes in the possibility of being integrated in the Civilised Garden od Evropa
>>2616954 (me) [continued]
India could a pole in 10-15 years
if they wage a ruthless war on their backwardness, strategise and actually
work theirs asses off to become a 'superpower'. So far, they are satisfied just boasting about it, nothing more.
>>2616846Apart from Kashmir, none of these states will want to leave India. There are issues among them, sure. But when push comes to shove, they will choose to remain in India.
Very similar to Wales and Scotland. They can bitch all they want, but when referendum time comes, they will stick with England.
>>2616954TBH I consider China and Russia a single united pole. Their respective national securities heavily depend on each other for survival. Because China uses so much oil, Americas plan in the event of a confrontation is to shut down the south china sea and starve China of energy, so lots of work is being put into pipelines connecting the two nations. In the same vein Russia cannot survive as an energy supplier without buyers so its imperetive to them China is friendly enough and wealthy enough to be able to purchase it. China would be half as strong without Russia and Russia would be half as strong without China
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I WILL BUY CCP XIAOMI NEXT TIME
>>2616966It's more like Russia is a satellite of China, China depends on them for raw resources but Russia depends on China for everything else. Russia essentially punches above its weight geopolitically because of the soviet inheritance they did a good job to squander in the last 35 years. And China will wane off fossil fuels soon so the relation will become even more unbalanced
>>2616978Russia is getting stronger with time. Don't tell me you think they were more of a threat in 2004 back when they were in SWIFT lol
>>2616842GROK:
>Consuming Labubu does not cure Delulu.(Sry.)
>>2616971again, the lack of integration in India somehow does not diminish their belonging to the Republic. It is weird if you are not Indian or you do not have deep ties to India. From an outsider's logic, India should be 5 to 12 different countries. But somehow, whatever the quarrel, whatever the bitterness, leaving India and declaring independence aint really a thing (in 2025, there were more independence movements in the past). Except Kashmir that is. Kashmiris are the only independists in India.
>>2617020All mutlipolaroids already know that.
You insist on erecting a fictional multipolarista who you can then defeat with your smug one-liners.
>>2617006For now, I think it might seem paradoxical, but as the country develops and becomes a non-feudal shithole, the more people will question things like being part of the retarded empire. I don't see that India has any power of central organization or identity. It was completely created by the English.
I don't know enough about India, but the way I see it, you will never progress past medieval shithole without a complete cultural revolution.
>>2617006>>2617132I mean, the only reason the Araps can exist as medieval shitholes on the modern world stage is because they are all relatively micronations and they have a money printing machine. That's why you Indians are all their serf class.
Eventually you have to into modern society and shit tho.
>>2617135at least with the Arabs they can rely on indian foreign labor never running out. places like Norway, also a small oil rich kingdom with a coastline, will crack long before the MENA states do because they're allergic to brown immigrants
Does anybody if Misato is an ML, anarchist, leftcom etc?
MOMENTARY LAPSE OF REASON bros: the EU/USA policy makes no fucking sense, lmao!!"
>>2617020If you are an American and if you dare to "crit" AES, you are OBJECTIVELY FASCIST.
Have a nice day!
>>2617028Fyi, the Empire, which you are part and beneficiary of is collapsing.
Bye, nikkga
>>2617208There is no actually existing socialism on earth today
>>2617222You wasted those perfectly good trips on such a shit take.
>>2617204Those chicks in the back seat are hot. Their mother must've been a hottie too.
>>2617225The american religgers are generally hawt
>>2617204The fedora is strong in these two
>>2617173Probably.
Personality disorders seem rampant in his family tree.
>>2617214>Can the Burgerreich please collapse already, or will it take Vietnam 2 Venezuela boogaloo for that to happen.the burgerreich has been collapsing in slow motion for decades. You are mid collapse saying "collapse already" as though empires fell at the speed a normal person does when tripping over their shoelaces
>>2617020stupid post
>>2617028correct reply
>>2617207correct reply
>>2617208stupid reply
>>2617210replied to wrong post perhaps
>>2617204epic drunk retard wine mom trolls fedora daughters with theological gibberish
>>2617280I just wish it would hurry the fuck up, the amount of suffering it causes is painful to watch.
>>2616998Russia is as much of a threat because the only threatening thing they have is nukes and a seat on the UNSC. Swift doesn't matter because they have a ridiculously small influence on the global financial market. Russia doesn't export finished products in any meaningful scale, it's basivally just raw materials so t's virtually a neocolonized country on the global market and a periphery of China and Europe where they deliver those raw goods and buy finished ones, most of those exports being fossil fuels in a time of accelerating shift to renewables electrification. Add to this that every rubble they put in the Ukraine war is a lost investment to create fruitful industries capable of keeping those export revenues in the future. So the future for Russia as of now is to be a weak Chinese satellite.
>>2617291(NTA)
>Russia is as much of a threat because the only threatening thing they have is nukes and a seat on the UNSCThey don't
just have nukes, they have the second most nukes of any country, except the USA. idk what their actual launch capabilities are but I imagine it's not zero.
> Swift doesn't matter because they have a ridiculously small influence on the global financial market.Isn't SWIFT used to fuck with Cuba (by exclusion)? So it's not a non-factor in neocolonial politics.
>Russia doesn't export finished products in any meaningful scale, it's basivally just raw materials so t's virtually a neocolonized country on the global market and a periphery of China and Europe where they deliver those raw goods and buy finished ones, most of those exports being fossil fuels in a time of accelerating shift to renewables electrificationThe USA were relying on Russia for finished fertilizer products prior to the war in Feb 2022. It hit US agriculture pretty hard in 2023 but I think the US has found alternative sources since then. But you're right that their strongest export market is fuel. They do annually export $1.13 Billion in Nuclear reactors, which is a hell of a commodity to export, but that's not really that much money.
> Add to this that every rubble they put in the Ukraine war is a lost investment to create fruitful industries capable of keeping those export revenues in the future. idk holding back NATO expansion seems pretty important for their security. I really do believe the US has long term ambitions to balkanize Russia further, because simply balkanizing the USSR was not enough. Even if it's delusional and psychotic, it makes sense for the US to pursue that, in order to divide up Russia's near-peer nuclear arsenal mentioned above among several smaller states.
>So the future for Russia as of now is to be a weak Chinese satellite.Better than being 30 ethnostates dreamed up by Gunther Fehlinger.
>>2617302
can't watch right now, i'm assuming this is the guy who executed his family then killed himself because his wife asked to change the channel lol
>>2617302
He shot her because he likes getting drunk and snorting blow and she was bitching at him over it.
>>2617309anti-sportsball fun-haters proven right once again.
>>2617204anti-religion fun-haters proven right once again.
Face it, fun-haters are always right.
>>2617205what does this refer to
>>2616968Based, buy Huawei
>>2616733/drugfeel/ had a similar phenomena where up to half the posts were from a couple no lifers, rest in piss heroinanon you were a piece of shit
>>2617204i hate this shit kinda shit so much but even more frustrating are 1st World Democrat Atheist Liberals like this guy because they get
so close to the truth but then their vulgar materialism, liberalism, petty bourgeois outlook, and 1st world chauvinism completely prevent them from reaching proper Communist conclusions.
>>2617362
rootless cosmopolitanism is a cool and good
>>2617363When did I ever insinuate the contrary?
>>2616954Russia is not a pole at all. Not a single country anywhere on planet earth follows it in any meaningful capacity. Neither is its economy very relevant from a global perspective.
>>2617291The productive forces it had in 1991 were too much for the market already. What you are missing is that you can't just create fruitful industries under capitalism since they will have to operate under market pressures. There was some growth in higher industries since 2022 but it was driven by domestic demand and domestic demand will always be rather limited in a somewhat poor country with a mere 150 million in population, less than 2% of the global population at nominal gdp per capita close to world average.
>>2616998We didn't have Azerbaijan humiliating Russia in 2004. Just because westoids are getting weaker faster doesn't mean Russia is getting stronger. We are still a European country and that means we are also done for until we become socialist.
>>2616813I think it makes much more sense to say that America is fighting Russia for its place in the global economy. Especially since they blew up Nordstream and took market share in Europe. Sure, India may be getting office jobs, but that is in American capital's current cost-cutting interests.
>>2617367Ok. Amriqa number 1.
>>2617365
I responded to his report and he said he would "get around to" responding but unfortunately did not in time.
>>2617372Well if his ban is not permanent, you can hope he gets back to you in a few weeks lol
>>2617373I think they IP rangebanned the entire country he currently lives in, Mauritius, since he's the only poster from there (maybe) and because he was already permaban evading and using airplane mode toggle to get a new IP.
>>2616806>>2616785Why no one correct this deviation?? Browder was BTFO by Comintern because he was anti-Commumist liquidationist revisionist. All Communist globally united to destroy Browder and save Communist Party from absolute liquidation. Why then do you glaze Browder in 2025? Comintern destroyed him so long ago. Why you stricken by his amerika exceptionalist fascist revisionism?
>>2617376Jacques Duclos shoved a Red Grenade up Browder's ass.
>>2617375Damn. The mods really wanted him gone lol
>>2617386it would be trivially easy for him to use a VPN, though at that point he would be paying to post here which is sad.
>>2617285I know the image is small but I don't care. I want any of those women in a biblical sense
>>2617389Well I have seen people complaining about getting banned for using VPNs and Datacentres (idk wtf that is) in the /meta/. So I'm assuming mods nuked VPNs as well.
>>2617386who are we talking about again?
>>2617392The anti-American islander, who else.
>>2617397what did c-poster even do to break the rules?
>>2617400Only the mods and regular USAnons can answer this. Too often I am checking the thread after many posts have already been deleted.
>>2617400>>2617403He was a Leninhat-Iron Felix-China.Is.Fully.Communist type of poster. Just turns every thread they touch into another episode of attention-seeking shitflinging. That being said Chagos poster was definitely not as bad as the 3 examples I used and would actually provide pdfs and links to sources and was not nearly as overdramatic as other posters in that vein.
>>2617408Oh I know who he is, I just do not know what post got him banned exactly.
>>2617439
Are you normally this much of a drama queen.
>>2617391>I'm assuming mods nuked VPNs as well.they try to the best of their ability but it is actually hard to keep up with every VPN on the market, and a list of all IPs they use.
>>2617376It was the Comintern that helped Browder ascend to leadership. That said I think his writings are an interesting historical capsule.
>>2617456I hate agreeing with liberals, but he may in fact have dementia.
>>2617480liberals don't have a monopoly on noticing obvious things like "people age and their brains stop working so good"
>>2617480>>2617488especially not when they pretended for years biden's brain wasn't soup
>>2617491>Dems are hypocriteswhat else is new.
>>2617461Always the Kremlin to blame
Sick of this russophobia
>>2617491>>2617506Yeah Trump is reaching Late Stage Brandon in ways not even Biden did and somehow even more obvious
>>2617508Trump's mind is gone but still nowhere near Biden's lol
You people forget too quickly
Or you are a Democrat agent
>>2617510
>shit nobody said
>>2617510
Leave comrade strawman out of this.
> scrolling through yet another thread of radlibs crying while the planet burns
>realize the so-called"American Left" is a containment board for the PMC to LARP as revolutionaries
>let me predict the next decade,because the trajectory is fucking obvious
Phase 1: The Great Aesthetic Split ( 2026)
The DSA glowies and TikTok anarchists will completely merge with the Democratic Party.Their "socialism" will be reduced to voting for the lesser evil and posting infographics. Union leadership will continue to sell out every significant strike for scraps and photo-ops with Biden. The "Left" you see on reddit and blue checkmarks will become fully, openly, just the progressive wing of capital. They'll win some cultural battles (more gender flags in corporate logos), lose every economic one.
Phase 2: Grassroots Collapse & Online Balkanization (2026 - 2028)
The activist class,burned out and demonetized, will retreat further into niche online spaces. IRL orgs will wither. What remains will be us: the autists, the tankies, the doomers, and the fedposters, arguing theory on obscure boards and closed Telegram channels. The only growing "movements" will be wildcat strikes organized outside the union apparatus (which will get ruthlessly crushed by the state + media) and mutual aid networks that exist because the state has fully abdicated its role. Expect more Fred Hampton cosplay by NGOs with government grants.
Phase 3: The Fash Acceleration & The False Choice (2028 - 2032)
A competent,media-savvy fascist will win the presidency. The radlib "Left" will have a total psychological breakdown. Their entire ideology was built on defeating Trump 2.0 through voting and decorum. They will pivot entirely to a desperate, hysterical defense of "liberal democracy," forming a popular front with the fucking CIA and Raytheon. Anyone to their left who points out that liberalism birthed this fascism will be called a Putinist saboteur. The choice presented will be: Liberal Hellworld vs. Fascist Hellworld. We will be told to cheer for Hellworld 1.
Phase 4: The Real Split - Barbarians vs. Managers (~2032+)
The PMC"Left" will become the compassionate managers of the neoliberal decline, providing therapy speak for empire. They'll administer the climate camps and write substacks about equity in the water rationing.
Meanwhile, an actual barbarian class will emerge from the decaying hinterlands. Not ideologically pure comrades, but a weird mix of stranded logistics workers, armed rural poor, cynical veterans, and nihilist youth with nothing to lose. Their politics will be incoherent—a brew of libertarian survivalism, bastardized Maoism, and primal rage. They won't read theory; they'll meme it into existence with guns and IEDs. The state will label them all domestic terrorists, regardless of actual ideology.
The Only Hope (Copium Hit):
The barbarians somehow link up with the remaining disciplined cadres who actually understand material conditions and historical motion.A vanguard emerges not from book clubs, but from the rubble of the Amazon warehouse and the abandoned strip mine. The revolution, if it comes, won't look like a DSA convention. It will look like a natural disaster with a theory of history.
TL;DR: The organized Left dies, the aesthetic Left becomes the system's woke police. The future belongs to either fully automated luxury gay space fascism, or to the schizoid trenchcoat-wearing accelerationist in your local Walmart parking lot. Place your bets.
>>2617521>implying there is an "American Left" to have a future>implying your phases of decay aren't just the normal motion of capitalyour entire perspective is bourgeois subjectivism wrapped in a"materialist" aesthetic.
The so-called "split" you describe between PMC radlibs and "barbarians" is not a political split. It is capital's own development. The PMC are the administrative stratum of the real movement of value. The "barbarians" are the surplus population, the lumpenproletariat produced by the falling rate of profit. Neither are a revolutionary class. The proletariat is not defined by poverty or rage, but by its objective position as the producer of surplus value and its potential negation of the value-form itself.
Your "analysis" is just leftist catastrophism. "Accelerationism" is the passive hope that capital will do the revolutionary work for us by creating such misery that people "snap." This is anti-dialectical idealism. Capital's crises do not automatically produce communism; they produce barbarism, fascism, and deeper re-subsumption. Your "barbarian" is just capital's own negative product, a force of reaction with no historical consciousness.
You speak of "vanguards" emerging from warehouses. This is councilist spontaneist nonsense, a fetishization of activity. The party is not an organization you "build" from grassroots up when things get bad. The party is the historical memory of the working class, the theoretical mediation that exists as a continuity from the Communist Left. It exists even when it has no mass organization, because the critique of political economy exists. Your "disciplined cadres" reading theory in the rubble are a religious fantasy.
The future you predict—liberal managers vs. armed nihilists—is just capital with the veneer stripped off. It is the present. The "American Left," from DSA to your /leftypol/ LARPers, is a spectacle of politics, a debate over how to better manage capital. Communism is not a "better management." It is the abolition of wage labor, the commodity form, and the state. No one on your board, "tankie" or "anarkiddy," even proposes this. You argue over which state capital to support (USA or PRC) or which mode of exploitation to aestheticize.
The real prediction is simpler:
The"Left" will continue its bourgeois function. The working class, as a class-for-itself, remains absent. Our task is not to predict which zombie faction wins capital's civil war, but to relentlessly affirm the program:
(i) Against all factions of capital. No support for bourgeois states, "anti-imperialist" or otherwise.
(ii) Against unionism and the struggle for a "fair wage," which is the struggle to remain a slave.
(iii) For the dictatorship of the proletariat as the negation of the existing state, not its capture.
(iv) For the party as the invariant historical expression of the proletarian project, not an activist NGO.
>>2617523Schizo times you live in
>>2617527Endless truklear bombs
honkoid status?
>>2617533Crying over RAM prices since openai bought them all, which confirmed my belief that AI i the ultimate treatler killer
They permabanned chagos?
>>2617527Waiting for another ultroid bordigger to contradict things written in your post.
>>2617547He's a verbose drama queen.
>>2617577What do you mean by this
>>2617593>former vice president at the geopolitical intelligence firm Stratforlmao
>>2617595
pol pls
>>2617595
>goy
But Mark Levin said Trump is the first Jewish president, anon
>>2617527Based reply, leftcom as usual.
But why do you keep treating the proletariat as the revolutionary subject?
You seem to treat the proletariat as a logical negation whose realization is communism. How do new material relations of production actually emerge, rather than assuming the contradiction resolves itself?
Historical and dialectical analysis of transitions between modes of production shows that it is not class conscious actors who drive transformation, but new economic subjects emerging from new material social relations. Logically it should be a post-capitalist subjectivity that abolishes capitalism, rather than a dictatorship of the proletariat.
>>2617641>There are a lot of Jewish people at an Israeli meetup, this means that an entire ethnicity is a monolith Read book
>>2617641>Every single person in this photo is Jewish except TrumpTrump is Jewish. You are Zionist. You deny truth and cover up with half truth. I see through your dirty tricks.
>>2617461Wrong. Still, you only defend browderism. You present most cowardly, insidious form of revisionism. Your obsession with rationalizing browderism is beyond mere interest. You only credit Browder for everything he did that was wrong while ignoring everything he did that was right. You defy Party line and openly praise social-fascist browder deviation because it appeals to your genocidal, revisionist amerikan exceptionalist deviations, and actively serving chauvinistic revisionism in defiance of universality of scientific socialism.
>>2617595My grandmother was literally a shabbos goy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabbos_goyThe Jews used to pay her to turn off their lights on Saturdays. I was reading about the Jews in New York, and apparently they just try to rope whatever goy in the neighborhood into turning off their lights and whatever stupid shit they are forbidden from doing. That's lame, fuck you, pay me. I was hearing this crazy story about how because they leave their stoves on from before the sabbath to after it so they don't have to turn off the switch. Well this mother and child were at home and the flame had gone out, but they were forbidden from turning off the switch, so the entire apartment had filled with gas by the time they were able to ask one of their goy neighbors to turn it off for them. Nearly died of cabon monoxide poisoning and probably blow up the whole apartment. Jesus Christ I could never live next to Jews. Got to be the most retarded religion ever invented. I think containing them in their own country is a good idea.
>>2617686> I think containing them in their own country is a good idea.Palestinians would rather you not
>>2617695>Confusing "Wrong." schizo with Felixlurk moar
>>2617686>I was hearing this crazy story about how because they leave their stoves on from before the sabbath to after it so they don't have to turn off the switch. Well this mother and child were at home and the flame had gone out, but they were forbidden from turning off the switch, so the entire apartment had filled with gas by the time they were able to ask one of their goy neighbors to turn it off for them. Nearly died of cabon monoxide poisoning and probably blow up the whole apartment.see
>>2617204 for similar insanity from the pig-eating Abrahamics
>>2617720>>2617204The bibble already has a quote from Lord Christ himself covering that.
>Then the devil took Him to the holy city and set Him on the pinnacle of the temple. 6“If You are the Son of God,” he said, “throw Yourself down. For it is written:
<‘He will command His angels concerning You,
<and they will lift You up in their hands,
<so that You will not strike Your foot
<against a stone.’b”
>7Jesus replied, “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’c”Explicitly says don't do stupid shit to test God's protection. American Christians are too illiterate to know what their Lord God said tho.
>>2617456Designer in Chief
>>2617731oh god oh fuck
double negative
that means he's gonna do it
>>2617204she sounds drunk
>>2617741she's drunk on the blood of christ you fucking heathen
box wine from publix >>2616813India will be number two. US can't even do the Monroe Doctrine anymore
>>2617006That is the long-term British plan to swoop back into India. India cannot last and easy to divide and conquer. Pakistan and Bangladesh were easy to seperate and only a matter of time when the Republic falls into smaller states.
>>2617757>At their current growth ratebut their growth rate is always increasing silly chud
>>2617786that's your king
>>2617811>Crimethinc. has published a 28 pages long analysis of the world and the Trump era, promising the reader a way out of his "autocracy". Picrel is their only practical advice they give. I skimmed the text so you won't have to.Bro, I notice leftists do this so much in their books. They start out with a premise, question, whatever, then they write on and on about anything but answering the question, then in the very last paragraph they're like, uh like I guess I have to finally deliver on the premise, here, have some non-answer.
>>2617828It's a form of domesticated hypergraphia, which is to say one step removed from psychosis proper. You correctly identified that extra step. So instead of "I have this urge to write so that I may keep my sanity" it adds "but all this was for you."
Masters of wasting time.
>>2617811That kinda already happened, and it’s not sufficient either
>>2617811the precise problem is what alternative are YOU proposing instead? these groups are wishy-washy yet they do just fine precisely because no one can get out a message like they can
>>2617840They’re doing fine on what metric? And the alternative is quite obvious to anyone who bothered to read the manifesto.
>>2617811>Bitcoin had spiked when Trump took office, ahead of his promised deregulation of cryptocurrency. It peaked immediately before the White House panel spreading fear about “Antifa.” In November, however, it plunged, shedding almost a third of its value. At the same time, there were murmurings that the Artificial Intelligence investment bubble could burst, tanking the stock market. Some Republicans likely feared that Trump’s tariffs and general recklessness could contribute to an economic crisis. This may have diminished their eagerness to be counted among his most obsequious supporters.You call this "practical advice." You are wrong. Serving the bitkoin fascists and stock market spekulators is imperialism.
>>2617840https://crimethinc.com/2025/12/16/at-the-turning-of-the-tide-how-fight-our-way-out-of-the-trump-era#how-to-escape-the-trump-era>The anti-Tesla protests of spring 2025 demonstrated the effectiveness of this strategy. Facing a unified front of fascist demagogues, Christian nationalists, and tech billionaires, the protesters applied pressure to Tesla dealerships and achieved startling results within three months. What results? LMAO. "You know what results were talking about, those ones, no need to specify which ones."
<Coincidentally or not, the fracturing of the alliance between Donald Trump and Elon Musk—one of the most powerful participants in Trump’s coalition—took place immediately before the June 2025 uprising in Los Angeles, distracting Trump at a crucial juncture.Wait, are they saying maybe the "results" were coincidence? Or maybe that protests at the dealerships caused Trump to get annoyed by Elon as everyone predicted he would even faster than he did before the election?
>>2617637The Proletariat is NOT a "Logical Negation" or a "Subject" in the philosophical sense you use.
You treat the proletariat as athing (a "class conscious actor") that must choose to become revolutionary. This is the standpoint of the activist, the organizer, the Leninist vanguard—all of whom see the class as an object to be led. For us, the proletariat is the contradiction-in-motion of capital itself. It is not a "subject" that stands outside capital and decides to overthrow it. It is the living, breathing embodiment of capital's central antagonism: the class which is the necessary precondition of capital (as variable capital) and simultaneously its gravedigger (as the potential negation of value-production).
The "proletariat" as a revolutionary force is not a collection of individuals with the correct consciousness. It is the objective movement of the class driven by its material conditions towards becoming a class-for-itself. This is not guaranteed, nor is it a logical trick. It is the real, practical unfolding of the crisis of the value-form.
>On New Economic Subjects and Post-Capitalist SubjectivityThis is Mystification.
You speak of"new economic subjects emerging from new material social relations." This is a tautology disguised as theory. It is precisely the proletariat, through its struggle within and against capital, that creates the new social relations! There is no magical "post-capitalist subjectivity" that descends from the heavens to abolish capital. The only possible "post-capitalist subjectivity" is the proletariat that has succeeded in abolishing itself as a class.
>>2617527Sorry leftoid but there WILL be unions and strikes and demands for higher wages and shit.
>>2617941Can't wait for them to democratically vote all the jobs overseas
>>2617751I like it anon. I chuckled a few times.
>>2617751>>2617970It might be funnier though with Jesus on the cross in the second image.
>>2617982I despise satanists more than Christians, tbh. A literal pseudo-opposition.
>>2617984Atleast christian chicks are cuties
Satanist chicks are gross
>>2617985>Atleast christian chicks are cutiesThey can't fuck for shit tho
>>2617986Peter was a master deal maker. He knew about the art of the deal.
>>2617990Yeah but that's for you to teach them bruh
All you uyghas want a sex beast but none of you want to put in the effort to train a sex beast
>>2617976Well nobody on the left talked about the endless peasant jacqueries either, only about the Paris Commune whose suppression was far from uniquely tragic from a historical perspective.
>>2618006The sooner we forget about the Paris Commune, the better it will be.
>>2618000Too much faggotry when you gonna kill the man anyway
Just crack his skull with a stone and leave him on the ground mate
>>2615588i want to go back to the mother country (and i happen to qualify for potential citizenship) but it is eastern yoorop and i happen to be a transhumanist so i dont think it would be a wise idea
>>2617932100% correct, but then: so what?
We have not seen the proletariat actually being for-itself btw, this shit is why poststructuralism is a thing because decades after the USSR was a thing, decades after widespread automation and collapse of the Fordist production line, decades after the welfare state, we have not yet seen this massive movement of the declassed and the Historical Process that Marx predicted. The other day i saw a leftcom ngga saying that its ok that the party form has collapsed because the Communist party will remain even with no masses, like you guys realize you are talking about this shit like Christians talking about the second coming of Jebus right? Its time to pack the bags and try to discover new theoretical basis for the Left
>>2618006Intriguining, I only read about the peasant's revolt on the other side of the channel during that war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquerie>The Jacquerie (French: [ʒakʁi]) was a popular revolt by peasants that took place in northern France in the early summer of 1358 during the Hundred Years' Warhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peasants%27_Revolt>The Peasants' Revolt, also named Wat Tyler's Rebellion or the Great Rising, was a major uprising across large parts of England in 1381. The revolt had various causes, including the socio-economic and political tensions generated by the Black Death in the 1340s, the high taxes resulting from the conflict with France during the Hundred Years' War, and instability within the local leadership of London. The revolt heavily influenced the course of the Hundred Years' War by deterring later Parliaments from raising additional taxes to pay for military campaigns in France. This story really sums up all you need to know about the Bongs. They still have statues up in London commemorating the guy who killed the people's champion. That is the character of the British.
https://exploring-london.com/2011/08/15/famous-londoners-sir-william-walworth/
>On 20 June, the King's uncle, Thomas of Woodstock, and Robert Tresilian, the replacement Chief Justice, were given special commissions across the whole of England.[221] Thomas oversaw court cases in Essex, backed up by a substantial military force as resistance was continuing and the county was still in a state of unrest.[225] Richard himself visited Essex, where he met with a rebel delegation seeking confirmation of the grants the King had given at Mile End.[226] Richard rejected them, allegedly telling them that "rustics you were and rustics you are still. You will remain in bondage, not as before, but incomparably harsher".[226][nb 13] Tresilian soon joined Thomas, and carried out 31 executions in Chelmsford, then travelled to St Albans in July for further court trials, which appear to have utilised dubious techniques to ensure convictions.[228] Thomas went on to Gloucester with 200 soldiers to suppress the unrest there.[229] Henry Percy, the Earl of Northumberland, was tasked to restore order to Yorkshire.[229] >>2618011>transhumanistapparently i cant call myself a slur on here. i am trans
>>2617993Bruh. If I date an adult human being I expect her to know some basic shit like how to swim, ride a bike, cook, fuck, sing, read and write, know basic math, etc. You had decades of your life to get to this very basic level. I'm sorry that religion crippled your development, but it's not my responsibility to fix you.
>>2618000Peter knew a good deal when he saw one. The upside-down cross deal should be taught in business schools worldwide.
>I give you: less nagging>You give me: quick death >>2618014Our enlightened pc police mods know better than you what's good for you.
>>2618011Really depends which specific country. You could easily live in Budapest as trans and get some office job where english is a prerequisite. I'm not sure you could safely do the same in Belgrade or Bukarest.
But the main problem is your americannes anyway.
>>2618025Fucking is different.
Some hags learn how to properly fuck at the age of 50.
Dont judge. Support.
>>2618031A deal breaker is a deal breaker.
>>2617731>Explicitly says don't do stupid shit to test God's protection. American Christians are too illiterate to know what their Lord God said tho.Then what about God explicitly giving Christians protection from snake bites and drinking poison in Mark 16:18? Real Christians should down poison by the gallon and swim in snake pits if they truly believed.
>>2618025> I'm sorry that religion crippled your development, but it's not my responsibility to fix you.It fine you feel that way. I can fix her instead.
is gabe newell the videogame version of sweden
>>2618061He is cringe fat uyghur
>>2617984> A literal pseudo-opposition.as opposed to the figurative pseudo-opposition of Satan himself
>>2618050>Then what about God explicitly giving Christians protection from snake bites and drinking poison in Mark 16:18? Real Christians should down poison by the gallon and swim in snake pits if they truly believed.Yes God protects you from all poison if you believeth on him, but the point is you shouldn't be wasting god's time by intentionally ingesting poison.
>>2617521>Phase 3: The Fash Acceleration & The False Choice (2028 - 2032)>A competent,media-savvy fascist will win the presidency. The radlib "Left" will have a total psychological breakdown. Their entire ideology was built on defeating Trump 2.0 through voting and decorum. They will pivot entirely to a desperate, hysterical defense of "liberal democracy," forming a popular front with the fucking CIA and Raytheon. Anyone to their left who points out that liberalism birthed this fascism will be called a Putinist saboteur.This already happened
saudi arabia is bombarding yemen
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>>2618152>>2618150you just described wave particle duality in 5 words
>>2617932The first part, I basically agree with you.
>It is precisely the proletariat, through its struggle within and against capital, that creates the new social relations.This is mostly a semantic disagreement dressed up as a theoretical one. If the proletariat, through struggle, produces an alternative mode of production, that is a qualitative transformation, not merely the continuation of the same subject under a new name. That qualitative shift is exactly what I mean by a post-capitalist subjectivity emerging from new material relations.
My point is not that some external or "magical" subject abolishes capital, but that the revolutionary agent cannot precede the new relations it enacts. The proletariat as it exists within capital cannot simply will communism into being. Only once new economic relations are materially constituted does a new form of social subjectivity emerge, capable of abolishing capital as the dominant political and organizing force.
In that sense, the overthrow of capital follows the consolidation of a new mode of production, not the other way around.
Calling that mystification just avoids the question. How do new material relations actually come into existence? Rather than assuming the contradiction resolves itself at the level of logic.
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