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>>2613409>Mauritius is #10Fucking kek
>>2613409contrarian troll nonsense. see
>>2613311 >>2613424>>2613424>Americans are an oppressed nation and will participate in the JDPON on the imperialists.You know there is a difference between a troll and a joke, right?
>>2613425
What's confusing?
>>2613427>You know there is a difference between a troll and a joke, right?yeah it's trolling before you get called out and a joke after you get called out.
my brother gave me 20 bucks and two slices of pizza.
my other brother took a giant shit and clogged the toilet.
merry fucking christmas
>>2613134>villains and antiheroes get emulated rather than treated as cautionary tales.That isn't inherent to fiction but writers being stupid. Good fiction has protagonists who actively pursue a goal. However, changing the world by actually doing something gives liberals a heart attack. After all, they think the institutions will fix everything given enough time and people just need to follow the rules. So they almost always end up writing their heroes defending a lackluster status quo from a villain with a strong motivations to break the rules and change the world around them
This gives their villains a spine and strong character while their heroes end up being empty puppets.
>>2613435>he fed me pizzaok both your brothes clogged the toilet actually, it's just that the one who fed you pizza is clogging your toilet in the future, using your asshole to do it
>>2613383>I just state basic historical fact that America was founded as secular bourgeois Republic, even if in practice it is Christian supremacist and zionist and racist.Wrong. amerika was as protestant-settler dictatorship, not secular bourgeois republic. You think by proving the founders had a 'secular intent' on paper, you refuted 500-year material reality of a genocidal, khristian-supremacist settler state.
>I didn't say what the US "is" I said what it was founded as.amerika is what it was founded as. to deny this fact is to promote amerikan confucianist legal fetishism.
>I did not say the constitution is good or the final word in anything or even that it should be revered or continue existing.Wrong. You equate the amerikan legalist superstructure with reality of amerikan substructure. You whitewash amerika by calling it secular republic when it is theocratic fascist dictatorship.
>America allows Muslism, Jews, and Hindus to hold elected office.You fail to consider who they serve: the genocidal khristian settlers.
>>2613406>it's a basic legal fact retard.you say, "BUT IT THE LAW DO." This is textbook constitutional fetishism.
>it would be constitutional fetishism if I fetishized and revered the constitutionYou think amerikan law is reality. Therefore you are legal fetishist.
>>2613434So you genuinely believe this
>>2613409 was meant to be taken seriously…
>>2613418I'm always surprised by how her face looks.
Yearly reminder that "Whoville" was built on indigenous Grinch land after a decades long campaign of ethnic cleansing
>>2613442>posts same bait 2 threads in a row>it's not trolling it's just a joketrolling is a type of joke where you want to be taken seriously so you can feel smug afterwards. what response would you like instead? "hahahahahaha so funni!!!"?
>>2613440Are you the Menkheperra poster?
Lickspittles of the bourgeoisie, my name is Vladimir, and I despise every single one of you. All of you are obese, infantile liberals who waste every crucial moment of their day staring mouth agape at absurd artwork. You are everything reactionary in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever done any praxis? It might be stimulating to mock others because of one's own shortcomings, but all of you bring it to the highest stage. Your "theory" and "practice," if it can even be called that, manages to somehow be even more Onanistic than that of agent-provocateurs like Father Gapon. Attempt to pen a counter-revolutionary screed about me. You are unlikely to do any damage. I was on the editorial board of Iskra, and I was fond of lifting weights and hunting while I was in exile in Siberia. What sporting life have you, other than "masturbating to lewd oriental woodcuts"? I am an accomplished professional revolutionary, and my wife is similarly dedicated to the overthrow of the bourgeoisie (She just wrote a scathing review of your liberal imbecility, it was rather illuminating). You are all minions of reaction who ought to fall on your swords immediately. We are thankful for the liberation of the working class. Photograph enclosed: it is my wife and I.
>>2613450You're married to Scarlett Johansson?! A bald nerd like you?!!!?!
Fascist country.
>>2613457you could have corrected the typos
>>2613467Respected comrade, I do not believe in doctoring historical documents. It is a slippery slope, you see. Once the archives are messed with, who knows what kind of revisionism will follow.
We’re all migrating to Greenland, Canada, and Siberia anyway, there’s gonna be a solid decade or two where that’s the only arable land and fresh water
>>2613473i wonder how many years those places will be habitable for
>>2613472Indeed, comrade, it is impossible to forget the Ironheart. The report of 25th December, however, only deals with the opinions collected from USApolers on the 24th. The Forbidden Comrade was not present that day, no doubt because of the savage repression unleashed on him by the Tsarist Modocracy.
I have a good faith question for you anyone who thinks a guerrilla campaign would be workable in America. How are you going to feed yourselves in food deserts where no one grows anything bedsides weed? Rob the Dollar General or Walmart and scare everyone?
>>2613477>>2613462Insightful, dearest comrades. So, what should be course of action to realistically fight Zionism in America, in your opinion?
>>2613481Openly and publicly challenge Jewish exceptionalism
>>2613479Short term? You do exactly that, you rob grocery stores, or better yet, distribution centers and take what you need. Long term is you need to aggressively organize among farmworkers and use them as a shock force to nationalize the land in this country, breaking the back of the small class of 2 million or so families who own most of this country's arable land and food supply.
>>2613485What about hitting trucks as they’re moving? That might be less disruptive and less dangerous for the civilians your group is supposed to be fighting in the interest of (outside of truckers that is)
>>2613453Now that you pointed it out, 1890s Krupskaya kinda does look like Johansson.
>>2613485>>2613487No you just buy food with money, if the government knows who your guerrillas are then it's already too late, they have to be normal people who live normal lives and only occasionally rise to take armed action.
The guerrillas can't stand apart from the community, they are a part of it. They live in the places they defend.
>>2613479I will take the liberty to answer you comrade, even if I do
not believe in the possibility of conventional Guerilla warfare in the USA.
Firstly, there is no party or group or organisation in the USA which is both (i) numerous and (ii) fanatic enough to carry out such a task. The dialectics of the parties with mass support is that the party will never espouse revolutionary violence for it is a bourgeois party, and if it transforms into a revolutionary party legitimising violence, it loses the mass support. It is thus a two-way damper on revolutionary potential.
Secondly, is Guerilla Warfare, or Protracted People's Warfare as Maoist comrades call it, even applicable in any developed country? Every time they were tried, they were limited to small groups which were smashed easily by the bourgeois state. And indeed, why should the masses with relatively good lives in a developed country throw themselves in the perils of guerrila warfare?
America, however, has the particularity of having a small group of highly schizo, extremely high-voltage eccentric personalities. The types which were targeted and manipulated by MKULTRA. Revolutionary Communists have failed to learn from it and turn this weapon of the CIA against the bourgeois state itself. One must therefore focus on these few individuals, and make sure they commit terror acts as harmful as possible. Harmful in the sense that it disrupts and disturbs the routine of the imperialist state to the maximum. My nuclear oopsie proposal of the past was just an example. This in itself will of course never smash the bourgeoisie and establish socialism by itself. But a repeated effort to keep terrorising the normal American life by frequent and highly destructive acts will give rise to a new, less peaceful, less easy going American routine. It will be the task of revolutionaries then to analyse this new state of affairs and decide how to make the best use of it to advance the cause of socialism.
I have to specify, never should socialist groups take responsibility of these terror acts. Never should those who do these acts reveal their true motives. The perpetrators should always be prepared to die in the act. More than not taking responsibility, the socialists and communists must always spin the terror acts as the work of the class ennemy. In the act, we must learn from MKULTRA, in the propagandising of the act we must learn from Operation Gladio.
Turn the weapon of the fascist on himself. When a half-moustached man terrorised communism, the liberals tried the Gandhi route. What did the communists do? We put forward our full-moustached man. And we won.
>>2613489And how are you raising money? Member’s dues? Donations? Taxing the local drug trade?
>>2613484I beg you to elaborate, comrade.
>>2613492Refer to the Bad Empanada post at the bottom of /isg/
>>2613491Robbing drug dealers. It keeps scum off the streets, which makes people like you, provides a useful public service for the people and hones your combat skills. You should rob drug dealers and pimps at every possible opportunity and with maximal force, aiming to crush their entire organizations, organize their employees and provide the people with the clean and secure communities that the fundamentally compromised bourgeois police never could.
>>2613462>muh e-celebWho gives a fuck about what some Patreon shithead with a microphone says
>>2613493I have read it already. He makes good points about Jewish Exceptionalism etc but he does not say anything about
what is to be done.
>>2613490A heavily simplified TLDR for short-attention span special needs comrades: turn America into Lebanon.
>>2613496No shit, because he’s a fucking influencer.
Millennials and zoomers who believe fucking influencers are just at the new boomers.
Human will is the determinator of history not material conditions.
>>2613499Humans are part of the material conditions.
The Nature vs Man-made dichotomy is bourgeois nonsense. All that is, is Nature.
under communism what will be done about the patronoid class (those who have/had patreons)
>>2613490I don’t think this is what you meant but aren’t the 26 years of Mass Shootings since Colombine in America what you’re describing? One of the biggest strengths of American society is its ability to normalize any horrific fact as just the cost of doing business in America. We normalized mass shootings, we normalized the opiate epidemic, deaths from COVID, from car dependent infrastructure, you’re getting the picture.
>>2613503Work in a factory or farm as a good prole
If not, work in a gulag anyway but as a slave labour
>>2613499The officer class in every party involved in WWI thought the same, it cost many a young prole their lives charging at machine gun emplacements
Podcasters will draw from the same public art and culture funds all the other creatives will
>>2613508There is an unsustainable surplus of 'creatives' in America. Many of them will have to stop their slop and provide labour in factory or farm.
>>2613496I feel like it starts by saying similar things in public, in conversations.
>>2613508Ppease keep in mind in a socialist setting, there will be no cheap Bangladeshi, Thai and Indian almost-slave labour. The hoes will have to work.
>>2613499okay comment who made this post but this is a genuine question.
I heard this was an aspect of juche but I suspect it might be a simplification. Does juche unironically say this or is it more complicated than that
home PC status?
>>2613512Then, anon, Zionism is set to continue flourishing for at least another 30 years…
>>2613497Yes, exactly, this is what I've proposed for a long time. But that requires a much weaker federal government, while America's is still very strong. At first, we need to erode the authority of the US government and diminish it's power. This is why I always call for campaigns of assassination to go along with sabotage. We must physically target government officials and destroy them to put the government itself into a crisis and flux.
We have to create a new thread, /ISG-USA/
The overlap between american politics and american spectacle is too great. It becomes hard to criticise anons at posting isg here, when the spectacle post is equally valid to be here
>>2613516You’d be surprised how quickly these things can collapse, no one in the ANC expected to see the end of apartheid. Gaza is destroyed, totally, utterly, but so is the myth of Israeli military omnipotence. It’s this century’s Cuito Cuanavale, maybe I’m coping, but Israel is already in the process of becoming like Iran but for settler judaism, it won’t be sustainable in the medium to long term.
>>2613521For the millionth time, Israel and Apartheid SA are only similar in their racism. Israel is a million times stronger than Apartheid SA ever was.
Some jobs just inherently suck (sewage, backbreaking agricultural work) and for those jobs it works like jury duty and you sometimes have to spend 4 hours there.
>>2613522Palestinians are still the majority in the territory, even with the Gaza genocide
>>2613522Do you really think an Israel that is majority ultra orthodox can actually function? That’s where they’re headed
>>2613521No actually, Spear of the Nation was created specifically because they wanted to see change in their lifetimes. They always had a plan to end apartheid within decades, not centuries.
>>2613522Israel has the complete support of the USA while Apartheid South Africa never really did. There was support, but South Africa wasn't buying half of Congress or subsidizing American defense contractors. South Africa didn't get nearly as much aid and never got anything like the blank checks Israel does.
If Timor Leste survived and won, so will Palestine, if that means I’m coping, so be it
>>2613525As long as the imperialist USA chooses to back Israel in such proportions, Israel will stand strong.
As long as the Arab world tolerates the misery and torture of Palestinians, Palestine will remain (barely) on its knees.
Orthodox or not, Likkud or not.
>>2613527you are coping hard
>>2613526Yeah that was my point in saying Israel is a million times stronger. Not due to their own magic abilities but due to the Yankee sugar daddy.
>>2613528If Gaza has proven anything it’s that Palestinians are the only ones who can liberate themselves, the only consistent friends have been Ansar Allah
>>2613528This is why the only way to defeat Israel is to attack the United States, specifically to target arms contractors that service the Zionist entity's military machine, which is totally dependent (BY DESIGN) on American arms and parts.
Most of the Zionist weapons come from single source contractors. Supply can be disrupted easily. The genocide could be PHYSICALLY stopped.
Yet, the "left" in America would rather break some Starbucks windows and occupy libraries. The resistance begs us to open a second front and we do nothing except performative skits that accomplish nothing.
>>2613534Imagine if American dock workers sinply refused to load the weapons for shipping to Israel. Just this one act would mean so much more than all the Electronic Intifada cringe and the Ivy League bullshit (ivy league grads who will go on and make nice money in circles full of zionists and sectors which fully benefit zionism btw)
>>2613536The largest longshoreman's union specifically has collaboration with the state (loading arms during a strike) written into their contracts so I very much doubt that would ever happen.
The fact is, organizing inside the AFL-CIO is likely a dead end for now. We need a crisis which greatly radicalizes the workers first.
>Of course favourable conditions for armed struggle ripen historically. But the historical process must not be approached as if it were a mystical thing outside of man which in a crude deterministic sort of way sets him tasks to which he responds. In this sense to sit back and wait for the evolvement of objective conditions which constitute a "revolutionary situation" amounts in some cases to a dereliction of leadership duties. What people, expressing themselves in organised activity, do or abstain from doing, hastens or retards the historical process and helps or hinders the creation of favourable conditions for armed struggle-Joe Slovo, Prospects for the Armed Struggle in South Africa.
>>2613494ok Omar, while robbing some low end dealers and pimps is fine, trying to end the drug trade by fighting all the gangs is beyond the scope of a small guerilla group.
>>2613556>but I wouldn't assume that the forms religion takes right now will be the forms it takes in the future, that it's unchanging. I think in reality religionThere won't be enough time to stop the trend. The truth is that there won't be a new form and a civil war is likely to destroy the Zionist state. They only have the brutalization of Palestinians to even have a unified front. Religious Zionism will not have close to the numbers to save it and even then will still have tension that will lead to a civil war.
>>2613462BadEmpanada doesn't even have a community pantry.
Recently watched someone with 141k IG followers barely sell 30 tickets to a show. No shade to those people, the music was good, the show was good, but you'd imagine that having those followers, that clout, would translate into a higher turnout, anyone would think this. Have seen bands with 500 followers sell out shows. This internet fame, this internet clout, it's fake. It's an illusion. That doesn't discount the stats, sure we had 20k weekly readers and we're top of the charts for X, Y and Z categories, but these things are fundamentally without value. They have no intrinsic value. Clout is not capital, and capital is not clout. Clout can only be converted to capital through material praxis oriented around the clout. This is why I have been away for the last few months. Yes you can search "erik houdini" and get page after page about me, but was I feeding people? Was I really building anything material with this? Clout does not give you power, it can be a vehicle for gaining power, and can be a tool for networking, but it cannot replace the face-to-face cultivation of alliances. You cannot be a revolutionary without these alliances, without this network, you will be reduced to a man screaming his own hubris at a black mirror wall for electronic jolts of dopamine. An alliance is built on shared risk, consistent presence, and demonstrated reliability, things you will never be able to mutually share with often faceless, purely statistical internet metrics, follower counts do not reflect actual people.
>>2613576>Lenin had the right cause but went too far>Lenin redeems himself by shitting on le ebil Stalin who is the REAL villain >Trotsky somehow gets praise as the real successor who wanted to lead the revolutionary correctly before ebil Stalin stopped himThey will make it appeal to DSA types to teach Lenin because socialism is too popular among the youth. So they will make sure that Lenin gets liberalized and Stalin demonized while Trotsky gets praised.
>>2613462>Bad empanada just DESTROYED leftypol. <look inside>he's saying the exact same shit most of us saytiresome
>>2613581>Lenin's a fast talking lawyer who got over his head with the whole revolution thing. Played by Bob Odenkirk
>Stalin's the psychopathic thug who personally kills Anastasia. Played by Joe Pesci
>Trotsky's the shy intellectual who Lenin learned socialism from.Played by Jonathan Baruchel
>>2613588>burger 9 yrs old kids don't know how to<follow instructions, their left hand from their right<tie their shoelaces<what date they were born<the name of their own parentsThese are the future supersoldiers that the US will be parachuting to mainland China in 2035, btw.
>>2613462Aren't the majority of Zionists Christian?
>>2613462Have you noticed that most of the people doing jewposting here are first world white leftists and not first world muslim leftists because the latter has a higher degree of inter-minority solidarity
>>2613578Maybe you're right? I don't like predicting the future though. Have you read the Theses on Feuerbach? The basic argument is that religion is produced by specific social, economic, and political arrangements so it MUST change with those arrangements. Religious Zionism didn't emerge from nowhere, it emerged from the concrete social practice of settlement and state-building and military occupation. The theology actually follows the practice rather than the other way around. So you might see Israel form ultra-Orthodox battalions which are deemed acceptable to enough of them because they don't have to serve alongside women (which is the main problem they have with military service).
We have nationalist Islam. Judaism isn't immune to that anymore than any other religion is.
>>2613588This format of stitched together tiktok videos is pretty annoying , but its overarching doomsaying does make me want to check in with my two favorite high school teachers to see how students and staff of the more rigorous courses are holding up.
>>2613588>Gen-Z badYou wouldn't guess that from all the "revolutions" they are doing and no doubt will continue to spearhead. Ha!
>Be career stenographer, PhD in ass kissing>Alright, I can do this. It's finally my chance to be a war correspondent.>Meet handpicked youth from those trained at the NGO.>*Look down at notes*>"So here is Mr.Youth, head of the student movement against corruption and for democracy that we have heard so much about.">"How is it, taking your own destiny in your own hands as a people? How does freedom feel after so much–"<It's the ESL Rizzler<[Incomprehensible brainrot].interview >>2613600>Religious Zionism didn't emerge from nowhereIt didn't come out of now here. It doesn't change that the conditions are leading to a civil war anyway and religious zionism won't have the numbers to do anything about it especially because their issue is not exclusively because of gender in the military. A real stereotype and reason is because they don't want to serve and love the fact that they are exempt from service.
>Judaism isn't immune to that anymore than any other religion isJudaism is an ethno-religion. Zionism is already Jewish nationalism that secular and religious Jews adhere to.
>>2613393What's an example of a communist "negating a"? Let's say a con says women should stay in the home, the lib says women should be able to work if she wants, the commie says…?
I think america will be the india of the future. A backwater, retarded shithole where its citizens have no hope and no spines, and live in absolute squalor as they slave away for pennies as countries overseas end up exploiting the natural resources here and extracting them back overseas
<AI companies, data center builders, and the government have slowly been stripping away the regulations that protect normal, everyday people from destructive and feckless expansion. New orders from the White House in combination with lobbying from the AI industry, to include OpenAI, Oracle, NVIDIA, Meta, Micron, and others, have resulted in what we think is a greedy, careless expansion.
Eventually the question will bubble up in the public:
>So this is all to power a chatbots and toys and to spy on us? That's half "the economy" now?
And then, the inevitable answer:
>Then we can do without.
>>2613614>9 years on this planet>still don't have to wipeI'm thinking based
>>2613614I clean an elementary school and I'll say that I'd do almost anything to avoid taking a dump in a school toilet. The stalls are often filthy with shit smeared on the seats or walls and a lot of the kids seem to not to know that you can flush the toilet paper so they just throw it on the floor after wiping. I did notice some pull diapers thrown on the floor a couple times but I haven't seen them in a couple years. When I was kid I also avoided shitting at school if I could help it. I ended up only shitting twice at school during my k-12 years.
>>2613588Capitalism and technology are disasterous for the human race
capitalism and socialism is beneficial for the human race
Compare america (that video) with china. One country allows catabolitic cannibalization of its population through the capitalist use of technology. The other china fucking regulates the negative aspects of this shit while supporting the good stuff
>>2613619I should say I'd avoid using student toilets. The staff one are usually cleaner and I use those.
>>2613619I never ever shit in school in my whole life. First time I shat in 'school'was im univeristy. Pre
-primary, primary, secondary school (about 15 years total): ZERO shits
Im proud of this.
>>2613619ever notice the male restrooms were dirtier than the female ones…
wonder what that implies
>>2613622Once my friend went into the male staff toilet
He realised the computer guy was taking a shit
There was a big gap on top of the door
So he threw a mop through it and fucked off
>>2613612What will india be in the firture though
answer: a worse india >>2613625That's been my experience. The boys are generally grosser than the girls but the girls seem to like to throw wet paper towels and toilet paper on the ceilings more than the boys.
>>2613628"but the girls seem to like to throw wet paper towels and toilet paper on the ceilings more than the boys."
ew
Just woke up. I dreamed I was cuddling with Drea di Matteo but I truly wanted Jamie Lynn Siegler. What's the Freudian explanation behind this?
>>2613628boys
>straightforward vandalism>you can see the poopy toilet seatgirls
>indirect, passive-aggressive behavior as is the female way>poopy toilet paper above your head that can fall at any time >>2613629I imagine they wet it in the sink with water and soap. At least I hope that's what they're doing.
We seriously need old school British boarding schools guys
When I was a kid I was all for abolishing uniforms, more freedom to kids, believing in the anarchy BS and all
But looking at kids today, we are to blame
We must swalllow our ego, and admit iur mistakes and retvrn
>>2613632The paper usually sticks pretty well actually. It's a bit of a pain pulling it down though.
>>2613636Jeez what kind of toilet paper dp you use in America and what kind of roof do you have?
If I throw toilet paper up, it hits the roof and falls back down immediately.
Is Burger physics just different?
>>2613638Regular toilet paper? I don't know it might be a bit rough. The paper towels to dry hands are a bit thicker and rougher. If you don't take the paper down on the day it's thrown upwards it hardens and becomes more difficult to take down and I think it just encourages the kids to keep throwing paper on the walls and ceiling. I try to take it down as soon as I see it so that doesn't happen. Luckily they don't do it everyday.
>>2613638>Jeez what kind of toilet paper dp you use in America and what kind of roof do you have? >If I throw toilet paper up, it hits the roof and falls back down immediately. >Is Burger physics just different?Not a burger but it's a common entertainment. That said, our ceiling boards at the bathroom were so feeble they'd eventually weaken and break making a ruckus. So it was a Russian roulette kind of thing for the risk taking, to focus on one square at a time.
Another passtime was to improvise ways to jam the push-faucets and keep the water running. Partly because the noise of running water drwns the class skippers conversation inside.
>>2613619i've unironically seen lolberts use public bathrooms as proof communism won't work. cuz "tragedy of the commons"
I unironically think we need to copy the chinese school system. That system creates disciplined and mature people
>>2613646part of me wants to move to china, but part of me realizes that if I do, I will get mogged by children who know multivariable calculus at 7 and won't ever look back on any phase of their life with shame.
look. we just need to beat children. everything was better in the past and children were never difficult before. just beat the shit out of them. you don't even need a reason. don't wait for them to do something wrong. just periodically punch them. it makes em smart.
we need to release newborns into the forest/desert/jungle and only educate those that come back alive. if a toddler can't out run a coyote what good was he gonna be to the world really?
>>2613650Yes to beatings unironically
>>2613654personally i think they should only be beaten ironically
>wah wah<stop crying i was being ironic lol >>2613658
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>>2613606>It didn't come out of now here. It doesn't change that the conditions are leading to a civil war anyway and religious zionism won't have the numbers to do anything about it especially because their issue is not exclusively because of gender in the military. A real stereotype and reason is because they don't want to serve and love the fact that they are exempt from service. First of all, people do not merely "want" things, they are formed into wanting them by material conditions. Second of all, praxis is more important than demographics (see MAGA, which has reshaped American politics despite representating being a minority of the population). Third and finally, I'm not discounting the possibility that Israel experiences a civil war in the future but none of us actually have a crystal ball that can see the future. It's be nice if we did but states can restructure themselves ideologically and do all the time (see Dengism). You could get rabbis that say that military service is now holy becuase ~gestures towards some passage in the Torah~ because there's 60 fucking volumes of that shit and they can find some basis to claim that.
>Judaism is an ethno-religion. Zionism is already Jewish nationalism that secular and religious Jews adhere to.Yeah, well, so is Islam. How many white people are converting to Islam? Some gingers in the U.K.? Can you
really' and
cleanly separate Islam from Arab nationalism? BTW your own argument self-cancels because you're accepting that Zionism is something that both secular and RELIGIOUS Jews align with. Why is that? It's material necessity. Always was. Because the Jews in Palestine are not going to willingly let themselves be destroyed. No society does. They're not unique. Religions are all man-made things and that also goes for Judaism.
>>2613667
Drugs bad. We will detox you like mao did to the chinese population
>>2613672Kys barbaric wodigger
>>2613677>look mom, i converted another thing I don't like into the N wordmushrooms and LSD are fine, weed and alcohol are meh, hard drugs are reactionary
Americans are sleeping
>>2613663>First of all, people do not merely "want" things, they are formed into wanting them by material conditionsMaterial conditions that are leading Israel towards a civil war which is the point
>praxis is more important than demographics (see MAGA, which has reshaped American politics despite representating being a minority of the population)Maga and Maga-Lite(they want everything of MAGA except the label because Trump isn't a good politician politics and to reconfigure it to neoconism) are half of the voting population and arguably 40-50% of the actual population and varies by state due to the federal nature of the US where states behave more like European countries. That is not a good example
>Third and finally, I'm not discounting the possibility that Israel experiences a civil war in the future but none of us actually have a crystal ball that can see the futureExactly none of us have a crystal ball yet you believe that religious zionism will save Israel despite material conditions showcasing the opposite of that.
>It's be nice if we did but states can restructure themselves ideologically and do all the time (see Dengism)Israel doesnt even change ideologically with Religious Zionism. It is still grounded by zionist ideology which it is grounded by. It is like saying the United States changed ideologically from New Dealer socdem like LBJ and a conservative like Ronald Reagan. The ideology of the US did not change which is fundamentally a liberal republic. Religious zionism or secular zionism all agree ideologically anyway and it is a hail Mary to save the Israeli state from burning down.
>Yeah, well, so is IslamIslam is not an ethno-religion, where are you getting that it is from?
>How many white people are converting to IslamThat literally shows that Islam is a universalist religion like Christianity and Buddhism. Judaism doesn't go out of its way to convert and can even say to discourage conversion.
>Can you really' and cleanly separate Islam from Arab nationalismYou can cleanly seperate Islam from Arab Nationalism in a similar vain to Turkish Nationalism seperating from Islam. Also emphasizing once again that you can see that Islam is global while Judaism is an ethno-religion. It is interlinked
>your own argument self-cancelsNo it isn't. You proclaimed that Israel is going to be saved by religious zionism which is not the case at all.
>Zionism is something that both secular and RELIGIOUS Jews align withBecause it is an ethno-religion. This needs to be repeated to you constantly. It is like saying that a religious Quebecois is no longer aligned with an atheist Quebecois because of dedication to faith. That is not how this works. They are both ideological zionist.
>Because the Jews in Palestine are not going to willingly let themselves be destroyedAlmost like the settlers have been doing this and saying this for decades. Why is this some sort of revelation and how does this save them from the material conditions that is a ticking time bomb?
>>2613663>Yeah, well, so is Islam. How many white people are converting to Islam? Some gingers in the U.K.? Can you really' and cleanly separate Islam from Arab nationalism?Damn gaynazi anon, how are you this retarded on this? Are Iranian muslims arab nationalists? Are Afghans? Indonesians? Islam is so obviously not an ethno religion, nor inseparable from arab nationalism, this is either a massive cope or just racism
>>2613795
He tries to hide it, but he's always like that.
>>2613800he was even defending the zionist bootlicker ex-al-qaeda freak who glowies replaced assad with
>>2613801bait
>>2610890(he avoided this several times btw)
>>2613815
>Israel loves an islamist retard like jolani
This but with Assad
>>2613821
>You are a leftcom falsifier and pedo-zionist.
Shadowboxing world champion 🏆
>>2613811I met a druze the other day who told me his family was fighting with Israel in Syria. Enemy of my enemy and all that. They are of course being merced by the islamists, so it's not surprising that they'll take any help they can get. It is of course more complicated than that israel is best friends with Jolani, but he is practically useful for them, certainly much better than having Assad in charge as far as they are concerned. If hostilities exacerbate we might see opinions on ol' Joljol shift, but it remains to be seen. Most likely he's not going to do much against them because he'll want to remain friends with the US
>>2613792all abrahamic religions are shit btw
>>2613799Russia never got even close to being conquered by the Ottomans or Persia. Why would they convert?
>>2613826>all abrahamic religions are shit btwSure but Islam is the least bad one
>>2613823>druze are Zionist collaboratorsLmao im shocked i tell you. Shocked!
>>2613660
I believe in burger kids' right to choke on fentanyl, yes, mr-imperialist-libertarian!
>>2613835
nobody asked schlomo
>>2613827Hmm yeah I'm not a fan of islamists either, but I have a hard time condoning zionazi collaboration outright, even if it's not surprising why they would do that.
>>2613831Lol I know, it was a real revelation for sure
>>2613837
>still justifying zionist collaboration
>>2613845
what's the weather like in tel aviv
>>2613842
>centuries-old behaviour of islamists
Islamism is a modern term, it's not centuries old. I'm guessing you're just talking about islam at large? Not beating the Moshe allegations
>>2613849
>Why do you take it for granted that Islam will be coddled here?
Because islamophobia benefits israel and imperialism. Glad you're conceding to just talking about islam at large tho, it's much easier having a conversation without that mask on your face
>Christianity while still shitty and nonsense, is much much better than the semitic cancers of Judaism and Islam
Lol, Islam is obviously the most progressive of the abrahmic mind viruses, Christianity is by far the worst. These are objective facts
>>2613854
>No more arguments
I accept your concession Moshe
>>2613832>>2613840Never heard the alcohol story lol. Looked it up and apparently Vladimir was offered the Byzantine emperor's sister as a bride if he got baptized.
>>2613848>Islamism is a modern term, it's not centuries old. Maybe the term is new but conquering people and converting them has always been a large part of it though.
>>2613851>Islam is obviously the most progressive of the abrahmic mind viruses, Christianity is by far the worst. How do you figure?
>>2613854
impressive you're able to type all that with bibis cock in your mouth
>>2613856>Maybe the term is new but conquering people and converting them has always been a large part of it though.About as much as any other religion really. A lot of conversion happened gradually over the centuries and was not forced, both inside the arab territories which were conquered and outside of that.
>How do you figure?Islam gave women inheritance and property rights and allowed christians and jews to live in Islamic countries in relative peace, it also promoted literacy, education and scientific developments. The first thing Allah told Muhammed is READ, which I'm sure the theorycels on this board should appreciate. Christianity didn't do any of that and is responsible for the forceful conversion and deaths of millions of people across the world and birthed European supremacism/racism.
>>2613860>A lot of conversion happened gradually over the centuries and was not forced, Only for Christians and Jews, at least in theory. Every other religion was considered pagan and they either were converted or were killed.
>Christianity didn't do any of thatI guess. Seems christian majority countries ended up doing that stuff anyway, encouraged by the religion or not.
>and is responsible for the forceful conversion and deaths of millions of people across the worldAm I supposed to pretend the Ottoman Empire and thousands of other aggressive Islamic states never existed but only aggressive christian states did? Why does one count but not the other?
>and birthed European supremacism/racism.There is nothing inherent to Christianity that makes it European considering it was created in the middle east.Point to any verse in the entire new testament that supports European supremacism/racism.
>>2613422>Average wealth per person (wealth per capita) in the country amounts to just over US$30,000 as at June 2021, which is well above 2nd placed South Africa (US$11,000). Globally, it ranks above Poland (US$23,000) and only slightly below Portugal (US$48,000). I believe it. After all it's a *really* pretty island, pretty much a paradise in terms of nature. It's got a huge tourism sector, very low crime rate etc. Incidentally, there's an immigrant from Mauritius in my bumfuck village. She's here because of her husband who she met in Mauritius when he was on vacation there. Her Mauritian mom & dad have visited her a couple times, but they don't bother trying to stay & work here. Unlike Poles, Ukrainians, Turks etc.
>>2613871>Only for Christians and Jews, at least in theory. Every other religion was considered pagan and they either were converted or were killed.It is not different from judeism and Christianity in that sense, but unlike those forms it accepts them as fellow book worshippers at least
>Am I supposed to pretend the Ottoman Empire and thousands of other aggressive Islamic states never existed but only aggressive christian states did? Why does one count but not the other?Christianity was worse, again Islam is simply the most progressive out of a bad bunch
>There is nothing inherent to Christianity that makes it European considering it was created in the middle east.Point to any verse in the entire new testament that supports European supremacism/racism.I'm mostly talking about these religions as objective institutions, not as ideas with innate characteristics
>>2613875>but unlike those forms it accepts them as fellow book worshippers at least Well, you got me there. Officially being only 99% genocidal is technically more progressive than being 100% genocidal. But maybe there is a more progressive religion that is only 98% genocidal leftists should support instead?
>Christianity was worseNo, Europeans just happened to stumble onto capitalism first giving them the killing edge over Islam. If Islamic states got to capitalism first they would have the killing edge. Has nothing to do with the religion at all.
>religions as objective institutions, not as ideas with innate characteristicsIf the religion is besides the point and it's content doesn't matter compared to actual material reality then why bother defending Islam in particular?
Where are all the people that said Trump is the multipolar President? Or good for anti-imperialism? He’s been doing not just the most domestically but abroad as well. Whereas before there was pretense because of 9/11 being used as an excuse, there really is none anymore and it’s the most blatant imperialism. I am sure kkkamala harris would have shown support for Israel and shit, but I highly doubt we would’ve been trying to overthrow Maduro. Or bombing Nigeria.
>>2613878>maybe there is a more progressive religion that is only 98% genocidal leftists should support instead?Sure maybe Buddhism or Zoroastrianism or some shit, but we were talking about the abrahmic mind virus
>No, Europeans just happened to stumble onto capitalism first giving them the killing edge over IslamNo they were already worse than islam before the advent of capitalism because of the various things I've described already. Relatively even the worst Islamic states, like the ottomans weren't as bad as christian states. Women had more rights, could inherit, slaves had more rights as well I'm pretty sure, the promotion of literacy and scientific developments, etc.
>If Islamic states got to capitalism first they would have the killing edge. Has nothing to do with the religion at all.It doesn't matter what alt history fantasy story you conjur up, I'm talking about the real world
>If the religion is besides the point and it's content doesn't matter compared to actual material reality then why bother defending Islam in particular?The religion is not besides the point, maybe you mean like the dogma or the ideals of the religion or something? I just have a wholistic view of what a religion is and think the particularlies of whatever is written in their little books is not that important to discussing the practical matter of the thing. I'm not "defending" Islam, I simply stated it to be the most progressive of the abrahmic faiths objectively, which it is
>>2613878>capitalism first giving them the killing edge over Islamt. liberal
What caused the leap forward in medieval Europe so it eventually became more technologically advanced than the MENA region were favourable climate conditions for agriculture (there was a warm time before the small ice age hit during the renaissance), the invention of three field crop rotation and new ploughs resulting in abundant nutrients which allowed population to grow. Population exploded in the cities in particular enabling more diversion of labour which spawned more specialized manufacturing etc.
"Capitalism", "Christianity", "Judaiam" or "Islam" had little to do with it, it was all about material conditions. Technology develops and evolves despite of capitalists, not because of these pricks.
>>2613901>No argument Thought so
>>2613588>>2613614Material explanation for why american kids are becoming retarded and parents not raising their kids ?
>>2613913
Nah you're just confusing Wahhabism/salafism with islam as a whole. Probably because you're an islamophobe and/or a retard
>>2613581Hollywood doesn't drop truthnukes like that unfortunately
>>2613916
How's the real estate business in Tel Aviv going Moshe? I heard it's recovering from the recent setbacks no?
>>2613925
>Ok no arguments
Lol, this is getting a bit embarrassing anon, here lemme repeat it for you
"you're just confusing Wahhabism/salafism with islam as a whole. Probably because you're an islamophobe and/or a retard"
This article is excellent it has endless amounts of data to prove this. I feel some would get too butthurt to even read it but I hope one of you passerby people does. Bad empanada liked it btw. It has several other articles breaking this one down into pieces as well if you prefer that instead on this guy's sub stack.
https://tariqacknickulous.substack.com/p/no-jews-today-are-not-oppressed
>Jews Are NOT Oppressed: The Myth of Systemic Antisemitism
>Jews today are not a systemically oppressed group; they are extremely privileged. Antisemitism is not systemic oppression. This narrative only serves Zionism.>>2613901the Ummah will hear about this
>>2613916
>"my" savages were better than the others
I hate religion.
>>2613929
>Hahahah my islamohobic rant definitely has nothing in common with the zionist view of islam, this is ridiculous! How dare you!!
You're not fooling anyone Moshe
>Another struggle session about orientalists multipolaroids idealising "Islam" casu it's the out-group religion.
Ocalan would be proud.
>>2613933
>Im not confusinf jack shit.
You very clearly were as you were talking about aspects of islam that are only prominent in Wahhabism
>I cannot go into the gazillion branches of islam.
No investigation, no right to speak
>All religions have their branches of nutjobs. But in islam, the nutjobs always have a bigger representation. Why?
Firstly that's debatable. Christianity for instance has an equal or higher percentage of evangelicals and other retarded nut jobs than islam has wahhabists. The reason that the fundamentalist islam is more perceived as more prominent is because it was propped up by imperialist in their struggle against the soviets in the 60s and 70s and then because they became more notable during and after the war on terror as a nice little excuse for said imperialists to wage bloody mass slaughter in the middle east. The narrative they produced to justify that, you clearly bought hook line and sinker lol
>>2613949
You claimed islam to be the most barbaric or whatever, when it is objectively the most progressive. This is because you either are a zionist, or even worse, you unironically regurgitate their narratives without even knowing it
>>2613954
You don't need to personally be friends with jews or zios to repeat zionist narratives silly
>>2613957>B…but what about women in Afghanistan??Oh yeah, not like Christianity and Judaism. Those are religions that absolutely love women and treat them with the utmost respect lol
>>2613964
Lmao, if you don't look at how orthodox jews or fundamentalist christians, evangelicals, Mormons, Jehovah's, etc treat women sure
>>2613961
It's not my opinion, it's an objective fact
>>2613967
Not really. It's just that most christian nations have mostly secularized, which obviously more progressive than any religion
>>2613970
Imperialism obviously
>>2613975
Thank you anon, I appreciate that
>Death to imperialism
Hear! hear!
>>2613970>>2613972>>2613975>>2613976It is not imperialism that is preventing the secularization but anti-imperialism. Reactionary anti-imperialism is the worst product of imperialism.
>>2614003
They are already under imperialism, whatever that means.
>>2613988Lmao very funny anon 😂
>>2613959>You claimed islam to be the most barbaric or whatever, when it is objectively the most progressive.How about neither?
>>2614011That'd be incorrect
>>2614003
>Do you think it would be preferable for these countries to remain under imperialism rather than reactionary anti-imperialism?
Yes. Under imperialism we had revolutions. See Afghanistan.
>>2614006
>should would
>moralism
>voluntarism
>he thinks reactionary anti-imperialism will stop on its own
Mods, permaban chagos poster.
>>2614006
Islam is a tool of anti-imperialism.
>>2614018Is that why the US consistently overthrows or tries to overthrow (relatively) secular MENA nationalists and replace them with relatively religious MENA extremists? Is that why the seat of Islam, the kingdom of Saudi Arabia, is a total lackey of US imperialism and zionism, bombing both civilians and resistance in Yemen with impunity? Is that why the Afghan mujahideen were supported by the CIA against the soviets, and ETIM Uyghurs against China? Is that why the clerical authorities in Iran betrayed and cracked down on Iranian communists when they first came to power, after briefly working together to overthrow the US backed Shah?
I think Islam's role, whether in MENA, or in central Asia, ahs been more politically ambiguous than unambiguous, on the question of imperialism, and it highly depends on who you're looking at, when, and where.
>>2613988>>2614015>>2614016>>2614069But that is not what my invariant scholars are saying
>>2614018 >>2614069Wahmen MAYBE no longer required to put sock on head in 2026
Maybe at this rate, they will fully secularise by the year 3026.
>>2614074swap 3026 for 2036 and you'll sound less exaggerated. Btw, I suspect that by 2050 places like Iran will appear relatively secular compared to Israel and the USA. What happened to Roe V Wade? Why are "tradwife influencers" becoming a thing? What is Project 2025? The US superstructure is becoming incredibly reactionary and rejecting it s secular deistic bourgeois roots of 1776 and returning to the PVRITANISM of its prehistory.
>>2614031Yes, because as we all know, we as in marxists leninists, anti imperialism is a sham and humbug.
>>2614093>we as in marxists leninists, anti imperialism is a sham and humbug.Was Lenin really against anti-imperialism?
See:
>>2577998>>2577969>>2577999 >>2614095Lenin literally said that "The fight against imperialism is a sham and a humbug". Dont believe me? Search this sentence in Imperialism, The Highest Stage of Capitalism.
>>2614106See? I told you.
>>2614106>>2614103Opportunists about all across the globe, awaiting the moment to turn revolution into nothing more than a class exchange with a pretentious label slapped on
For Communism to live, Left-Communism must die.
>>2614114The world tried to kill left communism as a whole for over fifty years. It’s not dying anytime soon.
>>2614106No need for full quote man. The part that got quoted before is enough.
>>2614118"I can respect and believe Bordiga, although I do not consider him a Leninist or a Marxist; I can believe him because he says what he thinks. I can even believe Scholem, who does not always say what he thinks (laughter), but who sometimes says more than he means to. (Laughter.) But with the best will in the world I cannot for a single moment believe Ruth Fischer, for she never says what she thinks. That is why I consider the Ruth Fischer group the most objectionable of all the objectionable groups in the German Communist Party"
- Joseph Stalin, 1926 Comrade Stalin respected Bordiga.
>>2614121Me:
>It is not necessary to eat unless you are hungryPeople who quote me:
>It is not necessary to eat >>2614127Leftcoms as a whole care not for Stalin’s respect
>>2614127>personalismMods, permaban this one right here, NOW!
>>2614135I as a whole care not for Leftcom's opinion
>>2614135Thankfully nobody as a whole cares for nor respects leftcoms at all
>>2614174Why are leftcoms always smug, joyless and just throw the same one-liners over and over again?
And whenever they cannot defend their position, they fall back on an arrogant sarcastic attitude.
>>2614168I hope this ends with Christianity being taboo, judisim too. Like Christian and Jews just get pelted with rocks and rotten tomatoes any time they show up in polite society.
>>2614174>>2614184Mods, permaban these derailers. Reported like a true proletarian.
>>2614192>Mods, moooods!!! mooooooooods!!! Someone is being mean to leftcoms!!!Why are you such a snitch anon? Smh 😔
>>2614196Not reporting is bourgeoisie
>muh leftcoms
Rent free.
Wtf is leftcom? Is there a rightcom? Isnt communism on the left?
>>2614199It's not derailment if I'm making a relevant reply to someone's post. False reporting is even more bourgeois (imo)
>>2614190Wouldn't be shocked if this creates a generation of militant anti-theists
Holy shit can you two shut the fuck up. Some of us actually enjoy talking about the wild and crazy shit that happens in this country but for the past several threads it's been the same group of retards shitposting it up
>>2614210What wild and wacky US politics topic do you wish to discuss anon?
>>2614210Yeah it is a lot better to opportunist it up
>>2614210America is not a country. It is a state but it is not a coutry.
>>2614206faction that split from the upcoms at the 5th international
>>2614220There's already a seperate thread about that. Pick something better anon
Plapner
>>2614223
Yes when you intentionally make a bad situation even worse by engaging in bad faith trolling in the style of our two most obnoxious users you are considered to be shitting up the thread. It's barely useable as is but the last several threads have just been an endless cycle of the same few guys doing some obnoxious bit, apparently out of spite.
Why did Elon Musk name his child AEX something?
>>2614229
No I'm talking about the Chagos faggot and the guy who literally just uses LLMs to generate bait and starts every post with "wrong". You know exactly what I'm talking about
Justice Department Says Filming Immigration Raids Is 'Domestic Terrorism'
A leaked Justice Department memo directs federal prosecutors to press “domestic terrorism” charges against individuals who record immigration operations.
https://reason.com/2025/12/26/justice-department-says-filming-immigration-raids-is-domestic-terrorism/>>2614229
A spectre is haunting /USApol/ — the spectre of the Real Iron Felix. All the powers of old usapol have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: Mod and Jannie, CPUSAnon and Moffin, Democrat dickriders and Leftcom snitches.
>>2614235ICE is the gestapo. the USA is a fascist coutry.
>>2614230Him and Grimes are retarded
>>2614237There is no fascism in USA.
>>2614234>the guy who literally just uses LLMs to generate bait and starts every post with "wrong". You know exactly what I'm talking aboutsorry, noticing them is worse than being them. that is the new troll party line
>>2614240Correct, the USA
is fascism
>>2614229>We're just posting however we want you schizoenough of the gaslighting. anyone can go through the archives and observe exactly what
>>2614225 is talking about
>felix broke brainsat least he is consistent. and he never trolls. he is serious, for all the seethe he generates, I do not consider him a troll. he never engages in the toxic sarcasm, lowbrow bait, bad faith anti-communication, deliberate misinterpretation of what other people say, rule 11/14 breaking, or gaslighting about any of the above. he is ruthless in his conclusions, but he is not a troll.
Kat Abughazaleh Thinks Campaign Funds Should Help Feed People | The Illinois congressional candidate turned her campaign office into a mutual aid hub
Nearly $7 billion couldn’t keep President Donald Trump from returning to the White House and Republicans from controlling the House and Senate.
“It made me physically nauseous,” said Democratic congressional candidate Kat Abughazaleh, reflecting on the massive sums Democrats raised and spent on the 2024 presidential election, “thinking about how many people could be fed, or how many clinics could be funded, or how much student debt could be paid off.”
So after Abughazaleh announced her candidacy for a highly competitive primary in March, she transformed her campaign headquarters in Rogers Park — a lower-income neighborhood in Chicago’s North Side— into a mutual aid hub.
Situated at the front of her 9th Congressional District campaign office are rows of basics like diapers and winter clothes to medical supplies like Narcan. “We’ve also had people bring in stuff like nail polish,” said Abughazaleh, adding, “everyone deserves good things.” Anyone is welcome to come off the street, she explained, without checking for income or immigration status.
In addition to offering supplies while the office is open, the campaign also helps stock a community fridge available any time of day and hosts drives to collect specific supplies. A request for tampons for Chicago’s Period Collective, for example, resulted in a massive outpouring of support. “We ended up getting over 5,600, and my campaign manager’s car was just filled with tampons,” said Abughazaleh through laughter. “I wanted him to get pulled over so bad.”
The point here is to “show” the campaign’s values through providing for the community, rather than simply telling people why they should vote for me, said Abughazaleh.
“I grew up Republican,” she said, “and I can’t think of anything that would have made me be a Democrat faster — especially if it were today, when people have lost all faith in the political system — than people showing their values rather than just saying them.”
Abughazaleh faces off against a competitive field to replace retiring Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill. As of early November, 21 candidates had filed to run in Illinois’s 9th Congressional District — including a whopping 17 Democrats and four Republicans. The Democratic primary race will be held in March.
Abughazaleh, a former journalist with a large social media following, is ahead of the pack in conventional fundraising, and hopes that her “experimental” approach to campaigning will help pull her over the finish line. In fact, she thinks the Democratic establishment could learn a thing or two from her.
In November, with SNAP benefits paused due to the government shutdown, Abughazaleh’s campaign donated $2,500 to the Niles Township Food Pantry.
“I can’t think of anything more convincing for voters, but also just the right thing to do during that period, and during all of this, than the Democratic Party using its immense resources to — with no strings attached — stock food banks, fund clinics, and make sure people have what they need,” she said.
“We don’t need to spend $20 million to make lefty Joe Rogan in a lab,” Abughazaleh added, in a nod to a strategic pitch Democratic operatives offered earlier this year. “We can spend $20 million on making sure kids have enough to eat, or making sure that parents have baby formula, or making sure that older folks are having meals actually delivered.”
Abughazaleh’s approach has not been without its detractors. On social media, some people have accused the campaign of attempting to buy votes by offering free food, water, and clothes, in the same place as advertisements for the candidate.
Accusations of “vote buying” are a serious risk for candidates implementing strategies like Abughazaleh’s, said Jessica Byrd, a political strategist who served as chief of staff for Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams. “One accusation of buying votes, and your entire campaign is under a microscope. It slows you down, it makes you less effective, and then you have to spend money to defend yourself,” explained Byrd. “So it really is a risk.”
Abughazaleh has already faced significant scrutiny in her race. In October, she was indicted along with five other activists on federal conspiracy charges over an Immigration and Customs Enforcement protest. She and her co-defendants are pleading not guilty.
“It’s incredible” that the Abughazaleh campaign is going ahead with its mutual aid efforts despite the reputational risks and associated costs, Byrd said. The Abrams campaign instituted a similar strategy in 2022, forming a program to connect Georgians with existing services, from legal support to food assistance. “We were barely out of COVID, and it was really clear that we couldn’t just ask for people’s votes,” said Byrd. “We actually needed to ask how everybody was doing.”
Byrd said she appreciated seeing another campaign focus on how they can help their constituents before coming into office.
“People are suffering deeply, deeply suffering,” said Byrd. “Every single person running, their constituents are looking at them saying, ‘How are you helping me right this moment, right now, not in the future, not when you get it through the legislature? How are you a hero right now?’ And it’s on all of us to figure out how we can serve people right this moment.”
From a political perspective, it’s hard to know whether this type of strategy will pay off in more votes. Andre Martin, who serves as Abughazaleh’s deputy campaign manager and runs the mutual aid operation, said while most of the items are donated, there’s still a cost associated with pulling something like this off.
“It’s really, really taxing. It’s not an easy thing. It takes a lot of our resources,” he said. “It’s not something that comes without cost to our ability to do more conventional organizing. We spend a lot of time helping folks.”
Part of that cost is spending a significant amount of time on compliance with campaign finance regulations. Abughazaleh told The Intercept that the campaign works with a compliance firm that carefully monitors the pools of resources being donated to, or by, the campaign’s mutual aid arm.
According to Martin, the purpose of the hub isn’t to actively campaign to people coming in for resources. “Sometimes people will ask because they see the signs,” he said, adding, “We are mostly just asking people if they need help, like, finding things on the shelves, navigating our sorting system, things like that. That’s the only information we solicit from them.”
However, Abughazaleh said canvassing isn’t the goal here. “I wanted to figure out the best way to use our funds to not just run a race, but also help the community,” she said, “because if every campaign did something like that, then every election would be a net benefit to the community, win or lose.”
https://theintercept.com/2025/12/26/kat-abughazaleh-mutual-aid-campaign-illinois/>>2614248
you're not a troll, you just gaslight about the very existence of trolls and relentlessly attack the people who push back against them or express annoyance at them.
>>2614241>Trolls trolls trollsDo you notice how the entire thread becomes about this every time you bring up this pizzagate tier obsession of yours? Who was trolling? In the "style" of Chagos Poster and master baiter anon? What because people were talking a bit of shit about leftcoms?
This derail shitfest started when someone brought up lenin and bordiga.
>>2614247
played dumb again award
>>2614253Mods, permaban this one for spreading soyshit kulture
>>2614251>every time you bring up this pizzagate tier obsession of yoursexcept this time (the only time that matters to you) it wasn't even me who brought it up. I showed up third. So suck it :^) Someone else
>>2614234 agrees with me
>>2614234Permaban Chagos poster
>>2614254mods, hold down and twist the nuts of EVERYONE, permaban EVERYONE, kill EVERYONE
>>2614259if i do that you'll just have some other arbitrary hoop ready for me to jump through but here you go:
>>2614229>>2614251americans are sleeping
>>2614255Then he is just as retarded and delusional as you. I should report you both for derailing meta nonsense, but it's whatever. I promised the other anon I would try to try to stop complaining about your meta whining
I'm the guy you spoke to this morning btw, the other anon calling you a schizo is not me
>>2614265>I should report you both for derailing meta nonsenseit's your duty to defend the trolls and to report the people responding to them, after all, while also gaslighting and being either so new or playing so dumb that you claim not even to know who "Wrong." Schizo is.
>>2614262Americans are having their state mandated 25 minute unpaid treat break before they return to their work facility heavily surveilled with cameras, mandated uniforms, all devices are banned and they are under threat of being fired at any moment without cause which can lead them to go homeless and lose their healthcare.
>>2614265btw i'm literally the anon who has maintained the archies of this thread for a year and baked most of the threads. I'm probably going to quit that hobby come new years because I naively thought having an archive available for reference would settle the disputes which have plagued this thread for years, but really de-generalization and archiving helped nothing. The trolls and their defenders just make shit up. It doesn't matter how much proof we have of their malfeasance, calling them out is seen as a bigger crime than just letting them smear shit all over the walls nonstop. The mods have given up the website altogether and retreated to their matrix server, and the inmates running the asylum still act oppressed by them LOL.
>>2614271>archies archives*
>>2614271But mods are leftcom bordiggers?
>>2614275>>2614277your response is entirely unrelated to what I said
>>2614277>that there are more anons who think similarly but they are not a cabal who plan and coordinate their actions? replace "think" with "troll" but keep the rest of the sentence the same, and you will have exactly what is going on.
>>2614279
don't worry. come new years I will stop baking an archiving and you will be free to make the thread as dogshit as you like. I will stay in the geopoltiical threads and mostly lurk here.
>>2614258You keep saying things like "eat the jannies," "down with the mods," "sodomise the reporters," "impale everyone with more than 25 archives in their folders" "literally murder all people regardless of political beliefs." That type of stuff.
>>2614271shutdown the tor node and do purge of attention seeking posters and USApol will enter a golden age
>>2614266
Idk man they crafted this whole narrative, so now any time somebody posts something they don't like it has to be related to master baiter anon or Chagos Poster. If you disagree with them, you're in on the conspiracy or "playing dumb". I respect how much they brainfucked these guys honestly
>>2614293no one has said that
>>2614267I did acknowledge him, I call him master baiter anon, for he is clearly the master of baiting. So much that he's almost generated an entire cult in this general dedicated to hating him
>>2614295If you were paying attention since this morning (or yesterday I forgot), that is exactly what they've been saying. They are dead sure that they KNOW what we're doing. Very toxic tbh.
Getting gaslighted while being accused of gaslighting.
Anyway, the game's about to begin, I'll be off.
>>2614293He even threw a hissy fit by refusing to acknowledge this thread and made another one because he was mad I used this meme in the OP. Very childish.
>>2614266
> The leftcoms hit back at us with their usual 'personalism/mods permaban this XYZ'
those guys are also trolls, I don't exclude them from my diagnosis of this board's troll problem
>>2614305I find their behaviour entirely bizarre. Look at this shit, dozens of posts now about this alleged trolling conspiracy, why? Because some people were shooting shit about Bordiga? Was this all really necessary?
>>2614313it's a disco elysium reference
>>2614312Were you around when Russ-Ukro thread was just "kys zigger" v/s "die NAFOid" ?
>>2614312>>2614266Mods permaban these guys too
>>2614316noice. Excuse my lack of culture.
>>2614317Things that never happened. Mods should permaban anyone who says the z word
Mods permaban /usapol/ itself.
>>2614314>dozens of posts now about this alleged trolling conspiracy, why? Because some people were shooting shit about Bordiga?no… i gave an example of what I claimed was trolling (which you cried about, because it was in a screenshot or something), we had an anon on here literally saying communists in german extermination camps were fascists because they did slave labor for fascists and therefore contributed to the fascist war machine. that's exactly the kind of trolling nonsense a lot of us are sick of.
>>2614313Funky-style. Very funky. So tell me. Do you have any questions before we fire up the Big Communism Builder, or do we get right down to it?
>>2614322>never happened lmao okay you're just a troll.
>>2614324That was yesterday anon, I'm asking why you brought this up
now >>2614322>Mods should permaban anyone who says the z wordI am the anon who is accused of "alleging a troll conspiracy" for simply complaining about trolls and I actually agree with this. Saying Zigger, Wodigger, etc. is reactionary weirdo bullshit. So is saying that everyone in the imperial core is reactionary. Upholding imperialism , dickriding democrats, DSA, etc. is also reactionary. It's all derail meant to distract from the tasks for the American proletariat, who do exist, and have a lot of work they need to do in a short amount of time, or else everyone else will suffer.
>>2614329>That was yesterday anonevery day is a fresh start for you, which is why the trolls don't matter to you. but I archive and I see the longer term patterns even if they don't matter to you.
4/tv/ started calling it
>/AFAG/ Avatar Fire & Ash
>>2614331But why did you bring it up when nobody was making claims about nazi germany now. Honestly, sincerely I feel like you're trolling by not acknowledging this question
It pains me enormously to see that I am seen as a troll here. Worse, that I influence other comrades and they perpetuate my alledged 'trolling'.
I had hoped that by switching to a more comradely tone 2 days ago, that would help in dispelling the myths and rumours about me. Alas! Comrade Archiver has accused me of many things. I prefer to not respond. I let each comrade draw his own conclusion. Specially comrades who are victims of US imperialism - they can decide whether I am a force for good or evil in this board.
So Archiver anon hates me. Too bad, I admired him.
>>2614334>why did you bring it up another anon brought up trolls, and I came to his defense, I didn't give a fuck what hte particular conversation was about this time, I just saw more denialism.
>>2614335I don't hate your current form of posting, but have trolled relentlessly in the past.
Sameposters pretending to be different posters
>>2614335archive anon here, my position is:
dickriding imperialists is bad, but not everyone ITT accused of dickriding imperialists is actually a dickrider. false accusations of being a democrat, zionist, imperialist etc. derail the thread frequently. so does NAFOism (calling people zigger, multipolaroid, TWister, etc.) so does leftcom nonsense (calling everyone moralist, voluntarist, opportunist, personalist with no evidence).
Basically I see trolling mainly taking the form of accusatory interpersonal attacks that derail analytical discussion, regardless of political tendency.
Things can change for good if mods introduce captcha with timer.
>>2614330>WodiggerI've seen this thrown around recently, what does it mean? Where does it come from?
>is saying that everyone in the imperial core is reactionary. Upholding imperialism , dickriding democrats, DSA, etc. is also reactionaryI think this is ridiculous. You know when I was in a different country a couple years back and my gf at the time told an aquintence where she was studying (my imperial core country) he laughed and said "isn't that a fascist country filled with nazis?" I didn't know that's what he said at the time but when she later told me and said he was worried I might have been offended by that, I had to laugh and said I would have agreed with him if I knew
>>2614337I am trying to be nice, comrade, but kindly refrain from thinking you have telepathic powers. I was not trolling in the past and I stand by every word I ever said. Not everyone shares your sensitivities ans not everyone stays calm when it comes to imperialism. If anything, my old self was my truest self.
You are behaving like a McCarthyite who starts with a conclusion and then enquires in a way to 'confirm' that conclusion.
There are many things I can tolerate, but I will not allow an anonymous person claim that he knows me better than myself.
>>2614341>I've seen this thrown around recently, what does it mean? Where does it come from?some pro-drug anon calling people "War on Drugs (WOD) -igger (n word suffix).
>>2614336So another anon brought up trolling in the abstract and you jumped to his defense without even checking what he was talking about? Damn bro and you're accusing me of defending people insincerely or playing dumb or whatever lmao. What a joke
>>2614347you mean the same way you jumped to attack him and thought he was me?
>>2614347it really is hard to restrain the urge to stoop to the level of the trolls. I could start posting nonsense like "you are zionist. you are imperialist. you are cop. you are zigger. you are wodigger. you are bordigist." as a response and you would be obliged to take it seriously since that is an OK way to post, and actually calling it out is way worse.
i have come to the conclusion that imageboards are an awful way to communicate and cause more confusion than anything.
>>2614354
ok maybe chagos anon is right about us
>>2614352hahaha anon funny how you listed 'bordigist' in a line of insults XD
>>2614206Left-communism refers to several socialist strains of thought, some of the groups encompassed the term were famously critiqued by Lenin, but most of them don't have a lot to do with each other, especially today. Nowadays MLs apply the term to anyone who applies Marxist critique to a state with a red flag, nonexistent ones included. It's the second favorite buzzword right after trotskyist.
>>2614348No, I addressed my concern there straight on as it presented itself in real time. Namely that this meta whining derails the thread and causes basically all discussion to become about that. That it's two of you with the same brainworm and I didn't know that is not really relevant
>>2614352I wouldn't take it seriously, I just wouldn't care. If there's any point in-between the lines of your troll posts I could address those, if not I would just lmao and continue on with the conversation I was having
>>2614344I see, thank you for the elucidation anon. What a strange one honestly, I would have never guessed that lol
if anyone was still confused about the distrust, conspiracies and purges in the USSR in the 30s, well this thread must make it easier to believe
>>2614358isn't 'leftcom' nowadays mostly used for the 'Italian branch', i.e Bordiga
whereas Pannekoek's branch is referred to as 'Council Communism'?
>>2614363I would have expelled all concern troll anons for factionalism
>>2614364From what I can tell Council Coms are even less of a thing than Bordigists, so yeah it's mostly referring to the latter
>>2614366U r a reactionary who reposts reactionary memes. Under any meaningful revolutionary gov you'd be executed on sight.
Habemus an nice day, nikkerus
>>2614358>Nowadays MLs apply the term to anyone who applies Marxist critique to a state with a red flag, nonexistent ones includeda bit disingenuous here, anon. Leftcoms demarcate themselves clearly by their rejection of anti-imperialism, their refusal to entertain any notion of 'socialist comedy production', their rejection of demcent for Organic centralism, etc etc
So most good-faith MLs know what they're calling 'leftcom' when they start the fight. Now whether you or I agree with whom to what extent, that is another matter.
>>2614364Mostly Bordigists, some Councilists, also Communizers
>>2614358T. Anticommunist
>>2614371I can't tell whether you are a pro or anti-Wodigger.
Anyway it's just a silly meme, calling it 'reactionary' is a bit overdramatic dont you think?
>>2614370yeah. There are actually quite a few devoted leftcoms here who will fight for their tribe.
But I cannot recall seeing a single Council Com defending his cause. Sad that they're all gone.
>>2614372>socialist comedy productionThe means of comedy production
will be seized by the working comedians!
>>2614378lol I meant commodity production but fcking autocorrect can have a sense of humour sometimes XD
It is quite easy to emulate leftcom bordigists.
>>2614377I always thought it was funny in that Chomsky video on Lenin that he brings up Pannekoek as some sort of equal to Rosa Luxembourg and Lenin lmao. Talk about an irrelevant tendency, even at the time the guy wasn't that relevant. Though I guess Lenin did pen infantile disorders partly due to him, so I guess that's what the contribution of the tendency amounts to, an example of how to get called an infant by more serious people
the one great fascinating thing about leftcoms is that there are so few but they can occupy so much of the 'discourse'.
even IIT, there are perhaps two leftcoms. Maybe none online right now. Yet, look at what the Spirit of Bordiga unleashed.
>muh bordiga
>>2614386They're just very annoying and easy/fun to shit on
>>2614384yeah when one starts to read about this stuff in the western world, one gets a very distorted idea of the importance of many people (dare I say, even Rosa tbh). Part of it was because Marxism in the west kinda got stuck in intellectual academic circles, and part of it is that any anti-Leninist or even better anti-Stalinist would be amplified for obvious Cold War reasons.
Laura Loomer is a top tier milf
>>2614393It's also the western martyr/failure fetish at play, besides what you already mentioned. Successful communists are deemphasized/demonized and those who never accomplished anything or were killed before they could (like Rosa) are praised
To me it seems abundantly clear that anti-"stalinism" is just anti Leninism or anti-success
>>2614397Christ, at least put a spoiler on that gore post anon!
>>2614372I was being tongue in cheek, but your post contains some inaccuracies as well. Rather than a refusal to engage with anti-imperialism, they simply don't consider critical support or defense of any bourgeois state to be actual anti-imperialism, considering the continuation of capitalist politics to be synonymous with the continuation of imperialism. Bordiga himself praised anti-colonial uprisings, he would probably dunk on Israelis on October 7th like he does on the Portugese in this article:
https://libcom.org/article/long-live-barbarous-assegaiI'm not a leftcom, but I think the way many socialists react to their critique is silly and unproductive.
>>2614398Fully agree, comrade.
>>2614404sure, my post was greatly simplified.
One does not simply present Leftcom positions in one sentence haha
>>2614397Damn I know she's fucked up and everything but I think I still would.
>>2614407Absolutely I would. Nothing a paperbag can't fix.
>>2614408no fucking idea, Grok can be funky at times. Even better, in the prompt I had written 'Vladimir Lenin says "You WODigger" '. That's Grok's Lenin lol
>>2614409>That's Grok's Lenin loli don't want to go senile in a world with AI lol
>>2614404Last year some leftcoms on here tried to convince me that they were not shills for israel and zionism and they linked me some ICP articles that I was foolish enough to read through. It was all muh both sides, le Hamas is Bourgeois and Iranian/Israeli interimperialist war I swear to God. That fully confirmed to me to never take them serious again
>>2614366Vladiseph Maolin chief grower of the Shaolin Skunk
>>2614366I like the dramatic noise that plays after he calls you a wodigger. who is the portrait in the background? I want to come up with an entire worldbuilding lore about this guy. Make up a fake country. I like to imagine the portrait behind him is of a founding father. A sort of Bolivar-like figure.
>>2614414No idea what the portrait is. I keep my prompt minimal and let Comrade Grok do his thing. This video gives me a bit of 420-Stalin-StarTrek vibe in 1980s.
I like your idea. I have another character for your universe. He can be a rival idk
>>2613619God, I remember my school's toilets being relatively clean when I was a kid and things weren't as messy as you described. Sure there was that occasional time where someone didn't flush and that annoyed me.
>>2614354And Florida Man strikes again. Seriously, what is it about Florida and Arizona which makes people go crazy?
>>2614356No he isn't. Chagos-anon is probably a fed pushing the Sakai spookery again.
>>2614446>No he isn't. Chagos-anon is probably a fed pushing the Sakai spookery again.1. it was a joke
2. we know his IP is really in mauritius from when he shared ban screenshots
3. I don't think he's a sakaist. he denounces a lot of that kinda stuff. he just hates americans lol
>>2614446>what is it about Florida and Arizona which makes people go crazy?heat, disease, government
>>2614446For the millionth time, anarchist Comrade, I am not a Third Worldist.
>>2614446From what I remember Florida has some regulation where they can access and report on these kinds of incidents if they keep the name anonymous, whereas other states don't allow access to police reports like that. So you get a lot of them as they are easy journalist slop to produce
Chagos Poster just hates Americans as all non Americans should
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCKING TURD WORLDISTS AT IT AGAIN SHITTING UP THE THREAD AS THEY SHIT UP EVERYTHING
FUCK
>>2614455yes, underrated truth nuke
https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/episode-75-the-trouble-with-florida-man
<“Naked Florida man revealed on video sneaking into restaurant and munching on ramen.” “Florida man broke into jewelry store, cut himself on glass and bled all over everything, police say.” “Florida man arrested at Olive Garden after eating spaghetti with his hands.”
<We’ve seen this supposedly hilarious stories for years on our social media feeds and wacky listicle. Florida-themed crime stories, we are told, are uniquely bizarre and worthy of derision. But what are we really mocking when we mock “Florida Man”?
<On this total buzzkill episode, we dissect the anti-poor, mental health-shaming subtext that animates the Florida Man meme and how it too often serves as little more than a socially acceptable way to mock the marginalized and indigent. >>2614456am i allowed to call out this trolling? or is that worse?
>>2614455>Chagos Poster just hates Americans as all non Americans shouldno class consciousness. only national consciousness!
>>2614453you never gave me your thoughts on my reply to your survey
>>2614412It's a pretty basic socialist principle to be against ruling classes of all stripes. You should read a little about the history of the Second Internationale and communism in Iran if you don't understand that point.
which US state is the most imperialist and which US state is the least imperialist? Which US state is the most developed and which US state is the least developed?
Which US state exports the most capital and which US state imports the most capital?
>>2614461Anon I literally just said I will never take anything filthy ziorat leftcoms say seriously. Why do you try?
>>2614467>ziorat ask him if he thinks israel has the right to exist
>>2614473>allow consensus crackno
>>2614468He doesn't think any state has a "right to exist" including a Palestinian state, he is a ziorat
>>2614475but a zionist is someone who thinks israel has the right to exist, so if he thinks israel doesn't have the right to exist, how is he a zionist? fwiw I don't agree with his ultra position, I just wouldn't characterize it as zionist. he is a useful idiot for zionists, but not a zionist. important distinction to me, but maybe not to you.
>>2614477>If he thinks israel doesn't have the right to exist, how is he a zionist?You already answered your own question
>he is a useful idiot for zionists
>important distinction to me, but maybe not to you.It is not, plus I'm mostly using it as an insult in this context
I have you and your loli avatar filtered Moffin, don't bother replying further, you were just mentioned because you're the resident ultra mod
>>2614475You're much closer to an Israeli in mentality than I could ever aspire to be, keep shadowboxing and deluding yourself
>>2614489Fuck off ziorat, keep talking about both sides bad somewhere else, I'm not interested
>>2614497
a truly scientific hypothesis
so glad we live in modernity
>>2614493You go somewhere else, I'm not going to shut up about the fact that the IRGC butchered Tudeh like the Shah and the United States before them, nor am I going to shut up about the ongoing political repression against socialists in Iran. You're a retard with zero understanding of history or politics, stop humiliating yourself with infantile campist insults that show your complete lack of knowledge on the subject at hand. The clerics and bourgeoisie who rule Iran aren't champions of the Palestinian people, they didn't do shit about the genocide, they aren't doing shit about it now, and they won't do so ever. With idiots like you around, strongly worded statements is all they have to mobilize in order to portray themselves as 'resisting' the international order.
>>2614474There is no consensus to crack
So Trump and Netanyahu are 100% using Mossad assets to off inconvenient nuykuhs like Charlie Kirk and Epstein, right?
>>2614508mission accomplished
>>2614509>inconvenient nuykuhs like Charlie Kirk and Epsteinthey were both gigazionist tho
>>2614501>D.. don't you know Iran killed communist and represses socialists??? This is super niche information that you clearly don't know about! C…campist!!! Despite Iran being the main ones supplying resistance fighters in Gaza and elsewhere with weapons and literally striking Tell Aviv with missiles they aren't doing shit!!God leftcoms are insufferable. Actually neck yourself retard. I won't engage with you further
>>2614521
Cpusa anon for pres
>>2614519So you love them even with the awareness that they murder communists and proles, because they use the Palestinians and the Lebanese to fight as proxy and don't let Israel violate their airspace. Great own retard, I'm sure your undying devotion to defending bourgeois states on the internet will one day pay off.
>>2614513Kirk was coming off that a little seemingly but Epstein was just in it for the lolis
>>2614521
he's just another thielverse whore
>>2614533God leftcoms are insufferable. Actually neck yourself retard. I won't engage with you further
Post no 420
>>2614521
what an unsurprising development
poop suck
>>2614549
… yet wealth inequality has no blame by mr carlson?
>>2614552wait - so its a HOAX yet its the democrats who are guilty? what? 🙄
>>2614556hmmm, fox turned off the comments for this one 🤭
>>2614549
>le video games
God he’s fucking cringe
>>2614520dickrider fatigue
>>2614550Crticial support nvke
>>2614510There never has been a consensus on this site, ever since 2014
>>2614552Why doesnt he just fess up? He can pardon himself. Do almost anything at this rate. Maybe he's trying to protect everyone else but he's also a colossal retard and I cant imagine him even doing that right.
>>2614579It's not like his base would meaningfully oppose him if he just up and says he's a pedophile on national television, he's picking the wrong battles
>>2614580Lmao. Gotta be tough being retarded. Tard man can't get a single thing right.
>>2614580and yet I haven't heard a singular politician in the entire world who ever admitted to their crimes even if people litterally worshipped them as gods
>>2614610bill kristol exposing hegemonic whiteness in real time
>>2614610Damn stephen miller is a chrismas adventurer
>>2614549>>2614558>>2568775it's like he's not even paying attention
>>2614404>Rather than a refusal to engage with anti-imperialism, they simply don't consider critical support or defense of any bourgeois state to be actual anti-imperialismThat's only because they never had a successful post-rev DotP having to deal with geopolitical realities. They are holier than thou because they have no stakes in the game. They are clean because they never got their hands dirty.
The FBI HQ will soon be no more. The things he’ll do to get rid of those files. Let’s hope they get lost into our hands.
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/fbi-closing-headquarters-j-edgar-hoover-building-kash-patel-announces>>2614625i wonder why he's bothering at this point. everyone already knows he's a rapist pedophile and nothing has happened.
>>2614626He’s a deranged, desperate clown with his head up his ass.
>>2614549
Why doesnt he mention the criminal justice system or prison industrial complex or anything? That's been destroying Americans for generations now.
>>2614637
See the reaction to Watergate to understand. That is why every scandal has -gate on it. Nixon was never forgiven for it until he started getting rehabilitated from his Library and China
>>2614637
>muh american values
nah. that's exactly what the USA is about
honkoid status?
>>2614561Thats the dick rider strategy. They just talk about orange man and DEI and midterms for decades straight to distract from their inaction and total abandonment of Venezuela to further plant their trickonometries into your mind, to desensitize you and make you weak. The dick riders are like hyenas. They want you dick rider fatigued for easy kill. Know their tricks. Harden your heart and remeber what is right and what is wrong.
>>2614637
Liberals at the end of the day are superficial pests too deep into their culture wars to actually really give a shit about problems ailing the proletariat. The blue liberal opposes the red liberal not because of true ideological differences, but because of different tastes in aesthetics and vibes. This narrow minded opposition comes at the cost of proletarian suffering of course, not that they care.
>>2614682
shut the fuck up lmao
>>2614693
Goodbye and thanks for all the fish
>>2614694
Who are you exactly?
The mods are all far right imperialists.
>>2614718
No I just don't follow this thread's stupid drama.
Anons, thoughts on Chris Cutrone?
Anons, thoughts on Chrischan?
>>2614682
Nobody cares
>>2614633He doesn't because those things help support his corporate handlers. Conservatives will always blame everything on some kind of Manichean "Spawn of Satan" rather than anyhting to do with Material conditions.
Besides of course he wants to ban porn and video games, conservatives have always wanted to do so ever since the Satanic Panic back in the 1980's.
>>2614779This might blow your mind and might even go beyond your capacity to comprehend, but there are OTHER THAN CONSERVATIVE reasons for wanting to restrict porn or vydia. See China, you consooooomer retard.
>>2614781Yeah and China bans them because they are still spooked by underlying Taoist and Confucian beliefs that were never properly gotten rid of.
Stop trying to shame people for enjoying things and pretending that communism is some kind of poverty cult. They even have furries in China, you retard.
>>2614783American progressive racism never stopped to amaze me. In China for-profit porn is banned, meaning any kind of porn production that gets $$$ from direct purchases or advertisement or patrons. You can still run a site with porn if it doesn't benefit you financially or you can still send dick pics to your ex. In China kids under 14 (iirc) are allotted a maximum time they can spend playing online games. Like, every fucking behavioral scientist is telling us that human children are becoming fucking dopamine-addicts and ADHD zombies due to unrestricted access to vydia trash, but NOOO! THIS IS TOTALLY ABOUT CHINESE CONFUCIANISM AND CONSERVATIVISM!!!
YOU FUCKING IGNORANT MORON AMERICAN """ANARCHIST,""" WHOSE ONLY ANGLE IS TO MAKE COMMODITY CONSUMPTION UNRESTRICTED, CHANGE YOUR FUCKING FLAG TO AN-CAP, RIGHT THIS INSTANCE OR I SWEAR I'LL SQUIRT MY DIARRHEA DOWN YOUR COCK SUCKING THROAT,! >>2614786They abhor being called treatlerites, but every action they take, every word they utter proves them wrong. They aren't "racist" for not even trying to understand the laws and the communist logic behind said laws that govern 1.4 billion ppls lives… it's just that… well… yeah, they are fucking ignorant racists, is all.
>>2614786it's not because of vidya trash. it's because of social media algorithms serving short form content. instant commentary on every single thing. information overload. the PRC has banned none of that. another manifestation of the trend that worries me about the PRC which is that the government seems unwilling or unable to regulate the direction certain industries go in. i worry that they still in a view as exotic and sophisticated whatever comes out of the west. they copy aesthetics and methods without sufficiently discriminating the good from the bad.
>>2614786No you won't, you're just a retard on a imageboard. The reason they become dopamine addicts is due to the structure of social media. I video gamed during my childhood and I turned out fine.
>>2614788Stop dickriding for China, they are not communist at all, they are capitalists wearing a communist skin-suit.
>>2614792 (me)
still in a way*
>>2614792What are you talking about illiterate subhuman American?? I explicitly said "restrict" instead of "ban".
>>2614793> I turned out fineAmerican narcissism + denial. Soon none of these will be valid coping mechanisms.
>China is not communistRe-read my previous two sentences and put up that ancap-flag, subhuman burger.
If posting on /leftypol/ were pointless, the wreckers sent by the feds would be unnecessary.
If eating vegan burgers was pointless, the wreckers shitting on vegan burgers sent by the CIA would be unnecessary.
>I justified my narcissistic bubble with this one simple trick
Imagine rushing to the defense of a conservative CIA stooge and trying to claim you AREN'T a fed.
Why is Houdini posted up with some 18 year old soundcloud artist
https://www.instagram.com/erikhoudini_>>2614813She's actually 17 years and 11 months and 29 days and 23 hours and 59 minutes old, which makes Hoodeenee a pedophile.
>>2614811Look into a mirror, anglo
>>2614624>They are clean because they never got their hands dirty.holding power forces you to betray principles, and being principled prevents you from seizing power. To seize power is to be a hypocrite, to betray principles, to behave in an unpredictable and sociopathic way, to be able to take advantage of chaos and suffering. That is the essential paradox of all politics, why those who win power betray principles, and why those who have principles never seem to be able to seize power.
>>2614793> I video gamed during my childhood and I turned out fine. yeah?
>Stop dickriding for China, they are not communist at all, they are capitalists wearing a communist skin-suit.pseud opinion, read the dengism elder scroll
>>2614806Vegan burgers are great thoughever
>>2614825If you like the taste of plastic and prefer highly processed füüd, sure.
The rest of us, uncivilized barbarians however we may be, prefer meat, the real thing, thank you very much.
>>2614819I have no principles. I have class enemies. I will get rid of them with or without your principled ass.
>>2614841i never claimed to be principled
>>2614837fake meat is wanting to have it both ways. just eat some rice and beans.
>>2614852>Just poison your guts with anti-nutritients'no'
>>2614853are you against beans? you're retarded lol.
>>2614837Most of the ingredients looks alright, plus probably used on regular beef.
Like you sure your beef doesnt have water or salt?
>>2614856They probably imagine a vegan strawman they mentally argue with constantly so they're very aggressive.
While they battle it out Imma eat my bean beyond beef and regular beef double cheese burger while watching a serbian film
>>2614856>>2614857in beans, phytic acid can slightly reduce absorption of minerals like iron or zinc, lectincs can be irritating, but only if beans are raw or undrecooked, and tannins also affect mineral absorption a bit, but that's also found in tea. Cooking solves most of this and it's negligible the amount of nutrient absorption it prevents. Beans are very good for you and frequent bean consumption is associated with lower rates of digestive cancer while frequent meat, cheese, and alcohol consumption are associated with higher rates of digestive cancer.
i'm not even vegan, this is just basic facts.
>>2614857>What's processed vs unprocessed foodAmericans.
>>2614858Processed animal products are associated with higher cancer risk, not unprocessed, you illiterate AI-using American.
>>2613462> Jewish exceptionalism> Looks inside> People rejecting Israeli propagandaMakes you think, why would a gentrifying colonial Australian push Israeli propaganda 🤔🤔🤔
>>2614860>Processed animal products are associated with higher cancer riskprocessed products in general, whether animal or vegetable, are associated with higher digestive cancer risk, that's true of processed foods in general. but isolating non-processed foods, non-processed meat is associated with higher cancer risk than vegetables and fruit. But that's entirely besides the point since the vast majority of meat americans eat is highly processed, slathered in oil and salt, paired with dairy, washed down with alcohol or soda, and not consumed with enough vegetable matter.
>you illiterate AI-using American.no i use a keyboard. sorry phoneposter, some of us are able to make long posts. i know it's intimidating when a post isn't short, dismissive, and filled with emojis.
I'm range-perma-banned. And what changed? This is the great 'discourse' you wanted? Was I the problem or is your autism the problem?(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
>>2614859> Not understanding the gray middle groundEuropeans.
>>2613596the majority of jews being zionist and the majority of zionists being christian are not contradictory claims. There are only 16 million jews globally while there are 3 billion christians. If 10% of christians are zionist, that is only 300 million, but still more christian zionists than jews. If 90% of jews are zionist, that's 14.4 million zionist jews. Still less than christian zionists, but still most jews.
>>2614866fwiw I wish mods let you have anti-american general. it would have solved the issue of letting burgers discuss how to be better comrades among themselves without getting prodded nonstop and allowed you guys to have your understandable hatred vent thread
>>2614873I have not posted anti-american propaganda for a while. It was just a good excuse for the anti-communist NAFOid mods to repress an authentic Marxist-Leninist voice.
>>2614866>is your autism the problem?leave autistic people out of this. just blame imperialism.
>>2614876No, autists are the Comissars of Imperialism. Most of the Nazi Hauptmann were autists.
>>2614875>I have not posted anti-american propaganda for a while.i know. i'm saying i wish the mods had allowed you to have an anti-amerikkka thread so that the burger general could actually be used for americans to assess their (our) own retarded situation. i am american in geography even if i am not in spirit. so i am ITT to talk about the INTERNAL issues of this cursed land, not defend myself from the (righteous and deserved) scorn of the rest of the world.
>>2614877>autists are the Comissars of Imperialismwrong. autism gave us das kapital
>>2614877Lenin and Marx were undiagnosed autistic geniuses.
>>2614881i hate internalized racism so fucking much. but it's kind of funny that these dudes bleach their skin. white supremacists will never be able to pvrge browns because most of them are brown now. it's glorious in a fucked up way.
>>2614880Marx qas neurotypical. Stop projecting your victimhood on your supposed heroes.
>>2614869That doesnt answer the underlying issue of badempanada's numbers.
He ignored/rejected christian zionists to make an argument of Jew baseline in participating in the military, problem is that he didnt prove only jews can join the military and how that would affect the calculation.
Weird that badempanda would white wash zionism like that 🤔
>>2614879That defeats the purpose of an anti-imperialist struggle.
The punch must land on the face of the imperialist, of its 'leftist' enabler-falsifiers.
The Chagossian Vanguard is not a book club in a fancy coffee shop. It is a hard coconut thrown with vigour at the scalp of the Imperialist.
>>2614881when I was a kid i always played as created characters in video games who didn't look like me, and I hated having pale skin that burned in the sun. Even though I'm mixed I also resented my European lineage because of what they did to the world through colonialism. So I think transracialism is the next big taboo that will be broken. It will increasingly be seen as a social construct like gender, and the subjective logic of "identifying however you want" will be used to erase race or render it irrelevant. People who don't want to be seen as white will try to become brown. People who don't want to be seen as brown will try to become white. The great ying-yanging will happen.
>>2614890see this is why people have trouble taking you seriously, you make no distinction between people born in an imperialist country and the people doing the imperialism. You have abandoned the internationalist class analysis for a purely nationalist analysis. Not nationalist in the sense of national liberation, but national in the sense of collectivizing the deeds of one nation's ruling class onto its citizens. And before you say it, yes, there is a labor aristocracy, a large petty bourgeois, and lots of lumpens here. Possibly even a majority. Save your coconuts for actual imperialist chauvinists.
>>2614893These people are mentally ill. Stop whitewashing (pun intended) internalized racism and race essentialism, you dipshit.
>>2614893All
transformation is effectively 'if you can't beat them, join them'.
The brain drain of brown intellectuals from the poor shit holes to the fair advanced West is just the beginning. There will soon be a 'race drain'. Where they will literally become white.
The main hurdle is to genetically modify their sperms so that the mongrel inherits the whiteness.
The lebensborn Aryan farm of Hitler realised on mass scale. That is liberalism.
>>2614886>Stop projecting your victimhoodI'm not autistic so I'm not projecting. :)
>Marx was neurotypical. Doubt it.
>>2614896How did you conclude from my post that I attacked the American people? I specially mentioned the 'imperialist'
>>2614898>These people are mentally ill. didn't say otherwise
> race essentialism, race isn't real in the first place, so it cannot be an essential principle. you deliberately misinterpret my post, like so many here are addicted to doing.
>>2614903the context of the conversation made it evident you think the people you are lobbing coconuts (your words, not mine) at ITT are imperialist, but most of them aren't.
>>2614908Not at all people but at those who are left-enablers of Imperialism. They exist, sorry to hurt your feelings. The rest are caught in crossfire. Collateral damage.
>>2614863What's the global warming output of all those factories it takes to produce the chemicals that make Beyond Beef?
i must leave america and become chinese before chagos anon finds and kills me
>>2614933>The rest are caught in crossfire. Collateral damage.not me. i'm finna turn chinese
>>2614958ok but it's easier to do math with metric and imperial has caused people to die, so i think burgers should be forced at gunpoint to adopt metric, and brits too
One day you will wake up and realize you were always already chinese to begin with, Chinese in the soul, chinese in the mind, chinese in the body
>>2614624You've never had a successful post-rev DotP either. You have no stakes, you have no geopolitical reality, you never got your hands dirty. It would do you well then to be honest and actually critical since you are not a politician and likely never will be
you ever notice those who attack others of not leading a succesful revolution, would themselves fit that category?
>>2614990The difference is that those people are humble enough to give precedence to actual succesful revolutions, unlike those who think they know better despite living in bourgeois dictatorships themselves. They're not saying that they themselves lived through revolution, they're saying we both don't know what it's like so stop acting like you know better
"Marxism-Leninism is not a dogma, it is a guide to action and a creative theory. So, Marxism-Leninism can display its indestructible vitality only when it is applied creatively to suit the specific conditions of each country. The same applies to the experience of the fraternal parties. It will prove valuable to us only when we make a study of it, grasp its essence and properly apply it to our realities. Instead, if we just gulp it down and spoil our work, it will not only harm our work but also lead to discrediting the valuable experience of the fraternal parties." - KIM IL SUNG
''On eliminating dogmatism and
formalism and establishing Juche
in ideological work''
Speech to Party Propagandists and Agitators
December 28, 1955
https://www.marxists.org/archive/kim-il-sung/1955/12/28.htm>>2615003A deference to the past and refusal to critique is not humility. And the "successful" revolutions seemingly all either disappeared or made complete 180°s to adapt to global capitalism. The only people who have this sort of attitude towards socialism are post-soviet boomers and ironically yanks. This is why reading a broad spectrum of left-wing tendencies and political views in general is important. Most posters on this general need to develop basic critical thinking skills before declaring their political views as the only 'realistic' option
>>2615013>Other people need to develop critical thinking skills>Anyways, all those post-revolition communist countries with party dictatorship sitting above and dictating the actions of the bourgeoisie (thereby disabling them from operating as a true class) aren't communist btwI'm so tired of this man. So so tired.
Down with the Burger Reich. Up with the People's Republics of Yanquistan.
>>2615015I'm begging you to read about the history of the Warsaw Pact. Wait, no, you won't, because you're a yank, and you've never been to one of the countries you're a fan of, so why would you care about that
>>2615034politically underdeveloped
>>2615029Gusano moment lol
>>2615039wtf I don't like ultras either
Barely disguised anarchism is the most frustrating scourge in left wing circles
>>2615042Your support for governments in other countries is so tuff and brave yank
>>2615042anarchists are counter productive most of the time
>>2614893Thats why I shill for transhumanism, capitalists push for it, not realizing that it will be their noose. If all idpol gets smashed, then its over for porky.
>>2615037you now know what dengist soft power is capable of
>>2614837If only you knew of all the shit that is in a meat patty 🤣
>>2614863That's Fertilizers fault
>>2615013You don't even know what you're "critiqueing". God I hate how pretentious ultras are man. Always assuming that others disagree with them due to some psychologic quirk or because they don't have enough information to come to the same dumbass conclusions they have "This is why reading a broad spectrum of left-wing tendencies and political views in general is important."
we know, we all do that dog, we just draw a different conclusion from that information than you do, but you can never truly engage with those conclusions, because doing so would break your idealist framing of the global class struggle as it has actually unfolded throughout history.
>>2615063nonnono you don't get it. Every attempt towards communism that doesn't
immediately create communism as a mode of production is
WORTHLESS. Have you even read marxxx?????
>>2615041his meme is sarcastic. he's suggesting (and I disagree) that because kautsky betrayed socialism by going over to imperialism, the PRC has done the same. To understand his meme you have to understand that some anons in the past made the vulgar argument (with which I also disagree) that the PRC is socialist because the "90 million members of the CPC say so." i.e. "Do you cringe ultras think you know better than the 90 million members of the CPC." Moffins meme responds to the appeal to the authority of the millions of members of the CPC by showing that the 2nd international also had "millions of members" and yet betrayed socialism. But I think this analogy fails. The PRC isn't socialist because they say so, but because they have had a proletarian revolution already and have begun the task of socialist construction. That they find it necessary in their country to take particular strategies with regard to the national bourgeoisie is their business, and based on the characteristics of their country.
Kim Il Sung said:
"Marxism-Leninism is not a dogma, it is a guide to action and a creative theory. So, Marxism-Leninism can display its indestructible vitality only when it is applied creatively to suit the specific conditions of each country."
https://www.marxists.org/archive/kim-il-sung/1955/12/28.htmThis is why the CPC embraces the idea of the "birdcage economy" and "grasp the large and let go of the small." Because it suits their particular conditions on the world stage at a time when most of the global economy is still capitalist. Their military strategy is similarly non-interventionist, in counterpoint to the USA which is interventionist to the degree of overextending itself and making lots of enemies who will seek revenge for a long time.
What did Marx say?
>What we have to deal with here is a communist society, not as it has developed on its own foundations, but, on the contrary, just as it emerges from capitalist society; which is thus in every respect, economically, morally, and intellectually, still stamped with the birthmarks of the old society from whose womb it emerges. Accordingly, the individual producer receives back from society – after the deductions have been made – exactly what he gives to it. What he has given to it is his individual quantum of labor. For example, the social working day consists of the sum of the individual hours of work; the individual labor time of the individual producer is the part of the social working day contributed by him, his share in it. He receives a certificate from society that he has furnished such-and-such an amount of labor (after deducting his labor for the common funds); and with this certificate, he draws from the social stock of means of consumption as much as the same amount of labor cost. The same amount of labor which he has given to society in one form, he receives back in another.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1875/gotha/ch01.htm >>2615063In that case you're just an orientalist yank who didn't take any lessons from what they read and simply trusted the heads of state who were forced to deal with the fallout of their respective revolutions and legitimize their rule lmao. Assuming you're uninformed was too charitable I guess.
>>2615069Again with strawfolx and shadowboxing, classic ML
>>2615094Gusano final boss
>>2615092>More psychobabble instead of engagement with what is being saidShocking
>>2615103Give me an argument then
>>2615130I already did, but you are unable to engage with it, as evidenced by every single post you make
>>2615142The only one you did give me was
>you just don't know what its like to do a revolution ultraWhich is sadly not really relevant to the fact that most Eastern Bloc leaders were total retards and were obviously constrained by the fact that their economies still had to produce goods for exchange which meant the project of socialism was basically irrelevant and marginalized after a while, even to the communist parties.
>>2615147So you do know how to read. Partially at least.
I don't see how your nonsequitor which amounts to complaining about the commodity production in east block is relevant to the question of your understanding of historical development and revolution as immaterial. What should they have done differently in your opinion? How could commodity production have been abolished entirely in a way that would have saved the east block revolutions (if they can even be called as such)
>>2615154I'll post some references when I get home from work. Sorry for shitposting and flaming earlier
>>2615156I'll look forward to reading them anon, good luck finished your shift. Don't worry btw, we all get angry and shitpost/flame here from time to time
>>2615166Man that's crazy. Also wild that in Japan you only need to work 14 hours to stay out of poverty and yet they still work themselves to death anyway cuz of the work culture
>>2615169the two goes hand in hand
>>2615170>>2615160Bench buster
Bench breaker
Bench cracker
Bench snapper
Bench smasher
Bench crusher
Bench bender
Bench destroyer
Bench demolisher
I hate English
>>2615178Those are some pretty hot nicknames for that brown chick.
>>2614813>Editor-in-Chief of HOUDINI MagazineTopkek
>>2615182>if you criticise a jewish woman you are a misogynistic antisemiteis this what james lindsay refers to as the woke right?
>>2615192Lawrence Eric Houdini, CEO of Houdini Industries inc.
Lawrence Eric Houdini, Editor-in-Chief of the Houdini Times
this retard can't get a job because he has this shit in his CV >>2615200To be fair, most homeowners aren't retarded enough to trust their random nephew to install shit for them. This seems more like a Boomer problem than an American problem.
>>2615203Boomer problem is one of the great pillars of the American problem which in turn is a world problem.
>>2615203You are just jelly of Thomas, who is very handy.
>>2615205Thomas was able to rebuild his house single handedly. I mean he only was one hand after the incident.
>>2615207Thomas
>built his own house with a single handy hand>had his house burnt down by a freak accident>built his second house handless>electrocuted grandma with the ovenwhat did YOU achieve with your unhandy life?
>>2615200An empire redesigned with toothpicks and Elmer’s glue
>>2615211I worked in a factory owned by Scientologists that where the machinery was literally held together by toothpicks, duct tape, cardboard, and glue. The plastic conveyor belts lacked inches of material, just going around with holes in them, the bottling machines didn't work so we were hired to screw on the bottlecaps by hand, the tools of the chemists who mixed in the ingredients for different shampoo and hygiene products were dirty as fuck, we produced shitton of waste products every day, "just pour the barrels of shampoo into the sewers" was something told to us every week, and when leaving work you could see the fucking foam escaping the manholes all around the city, and my boss asked me to take out the broken bricks and construction material from the new company garden (tm) where they poured construction waste ridden soil for the new plants.
I could go on, it was fucking crazy. Apparently the Scientologists used the factory as a big money laundering scheme. When I think of America, I remember the Scientologist factory I worked in.
>>2615216Scientology is the quintessential American religion, even moreso than Mormonism or anything else
>>2615160Social Justice Multipolaroid
thread is now full
god save us from the new thread
So how does one bake a new thread? Archive anon said he wasn't gonna do it anymore. Do you just copy the OP and update the edition, pic and previous thread link?
christmas is over. take down all the christmas shit.
>>2615266Alright, I will do it then
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>>2614484Is this from Made in Abyss?
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